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| pitti | Laney: indeed; the real upower does it, so if your program under test listens to them, emit them | 06:44 |
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| pitti | Laney: mocks don't do that automatically (they are only mocks, not reimplementations) | 06:45 |
| sil2100 | Great... | 08:15 |
| sil2100 | I upgraded my system yesterday and today again I cannot get lightdm started | 08:15 |
| sil2100 | Need to find out what upgrade causes my black-screen-on-start | 08:16 |
| didrocks | sil2100: your system is weird | 08:21 |
| * didrocks never has this kind of issues | 08:21 | |
| sil2100 | didrocks: I already once had this very same issue after upgrading lightdm - I downgraded and it worked | 08:26 |
| didrocks | yeah, there was an issue with it | 08:27 |
| sil2100 | There was even a bug with that, I thought it got fixed | 08:27 |
| didrocks | but I just upgraded yesterday evening as well | 08:27 |
| didrocks | and no issue | 08:27 |
| sil2100 | Ok, let me reboot and check if I fixed it | 08:30 |
| sil2100 | brb | 08:30 |
| sil2100 | Right, so it seems me and the new lightdm just hate eachother | 08:33 |
| didrocks | sil2100: you reverted it? | 08:39 |
| didrocks | last new lightdm was the 04/12 | 08:40 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopers! | 09:00 |
| ali1234 | morning! | 09:01 |
| ali1234 | i have a question: what does the forking of the gnome-control-center mean for bug 1074314? | 09:02 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1074314 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "indicator-datetime configuration panel only works in Unity session" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1074314 | 09:02 |
| ali1234 | will things get better or worse? | 09:02 |
| seb128 | define better? | 09:03 |
| seb128 | g-c-c doesn't have support of external panels, so it's not going to work there | 09:03 |
| ali1234 | better = the configuration panel will start working correctly on other desktops | 09:03 |
| seb128 | it's going to keep working like now with u-c-c | 09:03 |
| ali1234 | but will it work in xfce? | 09:03 |
| Laney | morning | 09:03 |
| seb128 | there is no reason it shouldn't work on xfce | 09:03 |
| seb128 | that should already be working today | 09:04 |
| ali1234 | there is one reason: the .desktop has "OnlyShowIn=Unity" | 09:04 |
| seb128 | Laney, hey, how are you | 09:04 |
| seb128 | oh | 09:04 |
| seb128 | well, it's easy to drop that, or add XFCE | 09:04 |
| didrocks | sil2100: did you see my questions? | 09:04 |
| seb128 | nobody asked us to do that so far | 09:04 |
| ali1234 | if you remove this line, it works correctly in all other desktops, including gnome 3 (as of when that bug was reported anyway) | 09:04 |
| seb128 | "including gnome 3"? | 09:05 |
| seb128 | you don't want the UI to be displayed there | 09:05 |
| seb128 | since they don't use the indicator | 09:05 |
| ali1234 | yes, you do | 09:05 |
| ali1234 | gnome-panel does | 09:05 |
| Laney | fallback / panel | 09:05 |
| ali1234 | but you can't configure it | 09:05 |
| Laney | seb128: decent thanks, you? | 09:05 |
| seb128 | Laney, I'm good thanks | 09:05 |
| seb128 | oh, right | 09:05 |
| larsu | hi Laney! | 09:05 |
| seb128 | well, it would be buggy under shell | 09:05 |
| Laney | hey larsu! | 09:05 |
| seb128 | ali1234, so, yeah, I guess the fork is going to make things better | 09:06 |
| seb128 | gnome-shell is going to use g-c-c | 09:06 |
| seb128 | and we can drop the OnlyShowIn | 09:06 |
| ali1234 | yes, but shell doesn't use indicators... so anyway, it's my understanding that it's set up this way purely to prevent each desktop from showing multiple datetime applets | 09:06 |
| seb128 | so u-c-c works for all other desktops | 09:06 |
| ali1234 | cool :) | 09:06 |
| ali1234 | so gnome-panel folks are going to be in a pickle, unless they set it to use u-c-c, which frankly probably is their best option | 09:07 |
| ali1234 | but everyone else will be fine | 09:07 |
| seb128 | right | 09:07 |
| seb128 | well the gnome-panel is an Ubuntu session | 09:07 |
| seb128 | it has indicators and stuff | 09:07 |
| seb128 | so they should probably use u-c-c | 09:08 |
| ali1234 | yeah | 09:08 |
| sil2100 | didrocks: with the downgrading? | 09:10 |
| sil2100 | didrocks: yes, I had to downgrade to 1.9.3 sadly | 09:10 |
| sil2100 | didrocks: I remember having 1.9.4 break my screen as well | 09:11 |
| didrocks | sil2100: did you open a bug with it? | 09:11 |
| didrocks | ping robert? | 09:11 |
| sil2100 | didrocks: there was a bug opened for that already, let me try and find it | 09:12 |
| seb128 | hey cpp hackers, can one of you help me with a stupid question? :p | 09:32 |
| seb128 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6560412/ | 09:32 |
| seb128 | what's the best way to make cairoSurface() and free_pixmap() work on l52 | 09:33 |
| seb128 | copy those function in private:? | 09:33 |
| larsu | free_pixmap should just be forward declared (or defined before the class) | 09:35 |
| larsu | and for cairoSurface() I'd simply access the m_surface directly, since that's what the function does anyway | 09:36 |
| seb128 | larsu, e.g http://paste.ubuntu.com/6560437/ ? | 09:37 |
| larsu | yep | 09:38 |
| seb128 | larsu, that seems to work, thanks | 09:38 |
| tjaalton | upgraded to trusty but kbd layout is wrong although the capplet shows it's 'fi', locale is right as well | 09:41 |
| tjaalton | seems to be 'us' | 09:41 |
| tjaalton | the layout list shows the broken one as 'suomalainen' (translated), adding 'Finnnish (classic)' fixes it | 09:46 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, seems like an xorg bug :p | 09:49 |
| tjaalton | how come? | 09:49 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, joke aside we didn't change anything there, config/indicator/... since saucy | 09:49 |
| seb128 | tjaalton, just trying to kick the problem in your direction ;-) | 09:49 |
| seb128 | I hate keyboards | 09:50 |
| tjaalton | sure :) | 09:50 |
| seb128 | that shouldn't be so complex/buggy of a stack | 09:50 |
| tjaalton | works on my wife's session | 09:50 |
| seb128 | I've no idea what is wrong | 09:50 |
| seb128 | we didn't change the code | 09:50 |
| tjaalton | me neither | 09:50 |
| seb128 | those are the same packages than in saucy | 09:50 |
| seb128 | did you upgrade from saucy? | 09:50 |
| tjaalton | yes | 09:50 |
| seb128 | :/ | 09:50 |
| seb128 | I'm half joking when I say it's an xorg bug btw | 09:51 |
| seb128 | since our side didn't change... | 09:51 |
| tjaalton | ours didn't change much either | 09:51 |
| seb128 | is gnome-settings-daemon working/running? | 09:51 |
| tjaalton | and it's working fine for my wife | 09:51 |
| tjaalton | er, changing the session seems broken | 09:52 |
| tjaalton | my session died when switched over to the other | 09:52 |
| tjaalton | hrm, now both layouts work for me as well | 09:52 |
| tjaalton | just wondering where the translated entry comes from, since it's not on the list when adding a new one | 09:54 |
| tjaalton | anyway, not an issue anymore.. went away | 09:54 |
| tjaalton | looks like my xserver crashed on switch, nice | 09:55 |
| asac | seb128: ready when you are? | 10:16 |
| seb128 | asac, I'm coming | 10:17 |
| asac | seb128: nice :) | 10:17 |
| seb128 | ok, I'm out for some errands and lunch outside, back in ~1.5h | 11:08 |
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| Laney | hmm | 13:10 |
| Laney | dbus-python doesn't give you properties in its introspection data | 13:10 |
| Laney | Qt's dbus support uses that | 13:11 |
| Laney | AFAIK | 13:11 |
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| xnox | Laney: i find all dbus bindings at various levels of support. e.g. libdbus, dbus gobject/qt/python (upstream), dbus-GIO (c/gir/python), dbus-qt (C++/declarative) | 13:40 |
| xnox | Laney: try python GIO/gir, does that give you introspection? or Qt's bindings. | 13:40 |
| Laney | I'm using dbusmock, so it's dbus-python all the way | 13:41 |
| Laney | patching it in now ;-) | 13:41 |
| Laney | I wonder if this is too dirty :-) | 13:54 |
| Laney | parse introspection data, find interface node, iterate properties (guessing their types!), patch them in | 13:55 |
| desrt | saluton, amikoj | 14:03 |
| seb128 | desrt, good morning to you ;-) | 14:03 |
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| seb128 | kenvandine, Laney, tedg, attente, charles: settings meeting? | 15:04 |
| kenvandine | sure | 15:05 |
| tedg | Fighting chrome... | 15:05 |
| Laney | any noise fro me? | 15:08 |
| seb128 | Laney, no, seems fine | 15:08 |
| Laney | I meant the good kind of noise | 15:09 |
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| seb128 | chrisccoulson, can we get a firefox 26 that builds on all archs in trusty? | 15:52 |
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| didrocks | seb128: stop being picky! all archs? ;) | 16:42 |
| seb128 | didrocks, it's not me being picky, it's britney! ;-) | 16:44 |
| didrocks | yeah, it's not easy to bribe I heared | 16:44 |
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| seb128 | lol | 16:58 |
| seb128 | I was wondering who just uploaded accountsservice | 16:58 |
| seb128 | I need to get used to xnox having a new name | 16:58 |
| mlankhorst | haha | 16:59 |
| seb128 | xnox, your old name was cooler :p | 17:00 |
| xnox | seb128: i'm now DJ Ledkov (scratches some vynils) | 17:03 |
| xnox | =) | 17:03 |
| seb128 | lol | 17:04 |
| seb128 | but come on | 17:04 |
| seb128 | Dimitri is too easy to type, even me I can do it without typo | 17:05 |
| seb128 | where I had to go copy paste your name before :p | 17:05 |
| seb128 | where is the fun! | 17:05 |
| * mitya57 looks forward to xnox living in Bulgaria and being called Dimitar | 17:05 | |
| Sweetshark | oh, wow, someone send a WTFPL2+ license statement to LibreOffice. | 17:05 |
| mlankhorst | hah | 17:09 |
| mlankhorst | easy to fix | 17:10 |
| seb128 | Sweetshark, next time you email ubuntu-devel@, please don't CC me | 17:11 |
| seb128 | seems like people like to reply to all and I get replies to your email in my inbox | 17:11 |
| seb128 | where I'm reading the list anyway | 17:11 |
| Sweetshark | seb128: aye | 17:12 |
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| seb128 | pitti, hey, I would appreciate if you could review https://code.launchpad.net/~laney/ubuntu-system-settings/tests-mock-upower/+merge/198625, you have more experience than me with those mockings | 18:00 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, re firefox, yeah, someone just needs to upload the new beta ;) | 18:03 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, new beta? I though 26 was stable, you uploaded to other pockets... what was preventing to dput to trusty as well? | 18:03 |
| Laney | pitti: also, related - I noticed that dbusmock properties added with AddProperty always get 'v' from dbus.lowlevel.Message.guess_signature(message) - can you think how to solve this? | 18:04 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128, i always skip the release, and just go straight to the next beta. 27b1 is out already | 18:04 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, well, if you are busy, having the stable seems like little work and better than having a beta not building stucked in proposed | 18:04 |
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| Sweetshark | \o\ /o/ \o/ | 19:42 |
| * Sweetshark has his first set of libreoffice-l10n packages build minimalistically from a separate source pkg. | 19:43 | |
| Sweetshark | lintian hates me now. | 19:43 |
| Sweetshark | well, more than usual. | 19:43 |
| qengho | Sweetshark: niiice. | 19:50 |
| billq | hello. i'm having problems with recently upgraded 13.10. login screen works but after login i get some "system program problem detected" dialogs and none of the menu/status bars come up, just cursor and background. tried reinstalling lightdm, ubuntu-desktop, and some others. no help. | 20:24 |
| qengho | billq: I'm sorry to hear that. Is it the same if you log in as guest? | 20:29 |
| billq | apparently it had something to do with nvidia drivers and X ... installing bumblebee fixed the problem ... but it has been working fine before the upgrade, and gave no indication that there was a driver problem, so i think that should be considered a bug. | 20:56 |
| qengho | billq: when the "system problem detected" dialogue, that is the way to report a bug. | 21:09 |
| * qengho afk. | 21:15 | |
| * robert_ancell is counting the days until quantal and raring hit end of life | 22:57 | |
| xnox | well, raring will be first to go =) | 22:59 |
| Fudge | why Raring? | 23:38 |
| sarnold | Fudge: the support period for raring, saucy, and other "intermediate" releases was changed to nine months; see e.g. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2013-April/000171.html | 23:40 |
| Fudge | ah understood, thank you | 23:41 |
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