[14:18] <roasted> hmmm... does this help development for the Ubuntu gnome team? http://m.webupd8.org/2013/12/confirmed-canonical-is-forking-gnome.html?m=1
[14:21] <mgedmin> afaiu yes
[14:57] <roasted> that would be great if it helps out development a bit.
[14:57] <roasted> I really like ubuntu gnome but sometimes the magnitude of PPAs needed to just pull in a full up to date version of Gnome is a little... eh??
[14:58] <mgedmin> tiring
[14:58] <roasted> but if Ubuntu/Unity distances itself from underlying Gnome technologies then maybe it'll free up some strongarming Ubuntu had that kept Ubuntu Gnome from being that much more awesome.
[15:01] <amjjawad> Hi :)
[15:02] <amjjawad> roasted, if you like Ubuntu GNOME, why not join us?
[15:03] <roasted> amjjawad: doing... what? I can't code to save my life.
[15:03] <amjjawad> I am a Team Leader of many Sub-Teams of Ubuntu GNOME and we are looking for new contributors :)
[15:04] <amjjawad> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/GettingInvolved
[15:04] <amjjawad> roasted, doing a lot ;)
[15:04] <amjjawad> how told you it is all about codes? it is not. There are several areas where you can help us
[15:05] <mgedmin> amjjawad, I reported a segfault a while ago, and pointed out the place in debian/patches/ that causes it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1243283
[15:05] <mgedmin> so far no response
[15:06] <mgedmin> what would be the next step into getting it resolved?
[15:06] <mgedmin> would it help if I produced a debdiff?
[15:07] <amjjawad> mgedmin, let me have a look :)
[15:08] <roasted> amjjawad: you're Ali, correct?
[15:08] <amjjawad> there is only one amjjawad in the whole family and his name is Ali, yes :P
[15:09] <roasted> amjjawad: I remember seeing the name Ali a lot on the mailing list. That's why I asked. :P
[15:09] <amjjawad> roasted, no worries, yes, it is me :)
[15:09] <amjjawad> but I don't like IRC much :)
[15:10] <amjjawad> quitting Lubuntu Team after 2 years gave me more time, that is why I decided to be here more often :)
[15:11] <roasted> aw man, I love me some IRC.
[15:11] <amjjawad> mgedmin, I am not on Ubuntu GNOME right now so can't confirm your bug. However do one thing please until I reboot and try it. Send an email to the Ubuntu GNOME QA Mailing list - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Testing#Join_Ubuntu_GNOME_QA_Sub-Team
[15:12] <amjjawad> mgedmin, send the link of that bug please and I will post a comment once I will be able to re-produce it :)
[15:16] <roasted> amjjawad: whoa, 80 active developers?
[15:19] <amjjawad> roasted, 80?
[15:19] <roasted> that's what it said on the launchpad section for devs
[15:19] <roasted> from the sub group link
[15:20] <amjjawad> we don't have 80 developers :)
[15:20] <amjjawad> we are small young team trying to beat the impossible and be one of the top 10 Linux Systems ;)
[15:21] <amjjawad> you are missing lots of fun, I'd suggest to join us if you have a passion for Linux and Ubuntu GNOME
[15:21] <roasted> I'm still looking over the sub teams. I'm just not sure what would fit. :/
[15:27] <roasted> so, probably a dumb question, but in the grand scheme of things how important is gnome control center and gnome settings daemon?
[15:27] <roasted> Would they be classified as monumentally sized components of gnome?
[15:27] <roasted> I'm just trying to wrap my brain around how much or how little it matters that canonical is forking these two items for 14.04
[15:31] <amjjawad> mgedmin, would you please join the QA team?
[15:31] <amjjawad> so that I don't have to approve your emails every time :P
[15:32] <mgedmin> depends -- what would be my responsibilities as a member of that team?
[15:32] <amjjawad> reporting bugs MORE than enough :)
[15:32] <amjjawad> for now at least
[15:32] <roasted> both arms and your first born
[15:32] <roasted> :P
[15:32]  * mgedmin joins
[15:32] <amjjawad> roasted, what do you like?
[15:33] <amjjawad> choose one sub-team /area you like the most
[15:33] <roasted> QA = bug testing right
[15:33] <amjjawad> QA = Quality
[15:34] <amjjawad> mgedmin, welcome :D
[20:28] <alowall> hi
[21:12] <darkxst> roasted, g-s-d and g-c-c are very important but Ubuntu packages are heavily patched, so hard to update. Canonical are forking these to unblock things for us.
[21:13] <roasted> darkxst: so, bottom line, this is *huge* news to ubuntu gnome's ability to develop things quickly in a sane manner.
[21:13] <roasted> eh?
[21:14] <darkxst> roasted, it is one big step in the right direction
[21:14] <roasted> that's great
[21:15] <darkxst> libgnome-desktop is still an issue, but hopefully we can sort that out. Bug 1228765
[21:32] <Syltman> Hey how is 3.10 on ubuntu gnome?
[21:32] <Syltman> that is gnome shell 3.10