[00:00] <xubuntu046Arcadi> Hi, I have problem with vmware player instalation. If I try to install vmware player in Ubuntu software center, after few seconds pop up emplty debconf window and instalation is frozen...
[00:00] <xubuntu046Arcadi> *empty
[00:01] <xubuntu046Arcadi> In procesing part of Ubuntu software center is VMware, but do nothing. I cant cancel it.
[00:01] <xubuntu046Arcadi> I try to reboot, after reboot is procesing part empty, but if I try reinstall, I bee at same situation.
[00:02] <xubuntu046Arcadi> Can you help me?
[00:11] <patas> Hello, I've been trying to connect two GPU (Sapphire 7970 GHz) to a Gigabyte mobo (990fxa-UD5). My system is Xubuntu 12.04.3 (64bit). First, I installed Xubuntu. Second I installed AMD Catalyst drivers, when drivers install is finished I reboot, then Xubuntu starts but complaining about a 'ERROR - X needs to be running to perform AMD Overdrive(TM) commands' and Xubuntu GUI doesn't start just the shell. Help me please. Thanks.
[00:16] <GridCube> patas, from the shell, can you try to run xinit?
[00:18] <patas> yes, i did but without success
[00:19] <patas> I don't remember the message but it was another error.
[00:21] <patas> Do you think it could be related to some issue on the mobo? I mean something in the BIOS...
[00:22] <GridCube> i would not bet on that
[00:22] <GridCube> i would blame the ati drivers first
[00:29] <patas> The first time I installed Ubuntu on that mobo only Ubuntu 32bit ran. 64bit didn't recognised neither the keyboard or mouse. Then I found out that enabling IOMMU controller in the BIOS was the solution. So I thought the BIOS could be the answer now.
[00:33] <patas> But, I tried both beta and stable version of drivers...
[00:34] <patas> Do you think it's a good idea remove the drivers and reinstall them?
[00:44] <Orioa> thats what i would do...use the one that says it is recomended
[00:48] <patas> I'll try. thanks.
[01:16] <xubuntu832arcadi> Hi, I have problem with install vmware player, can you help me?
[01:19] <Orioa> i do not use vmware so no clue sorry
[01:19] <xubuntu832arcadi> ubuntu software center dont work regulary.
[01:19] <xubuntu832arcadi> ok
[01:20] <xubuntu832arcadi> Sometimes i have buggy window named debconf.
[01:21] <xubuntu832arcadi> the window is without any information, its clean :(
[03:07] <emma> How does the latest xubuntu look?
[03:07] <emma> Im thinking about switching
[03:09] <knightshade> emma: http://xubuntu.org/screenshots/
[03:11] <emma> why do you like xubuntu? what would be your sales pitch?
[03:12] <Chanshark> its good
[03:13] <Chanshark> also by the way does anyone know where pre-installed ruby folder is located?
[03:13] <knightshade> emma: it's mostly free (as in freedom and free beer) :>
[03:14] <ghostkernel> knightshade:What do you know about free beer?
[03:16] <nyRednek> any clue when next LTS is coming out?
[03:17] <Poisoned_Dragon> april?
[03:17] <Poisoned_Dragon> iirc
[03:23] <Chanshark> anyone know if there is a negative effect of installing rails to xubuntu's pre-installed ruby?
[03:24] <Poisoned_Dragon> don't even know what they are. :(
[03:24] <Poisoned_Dragon> I don't program. I'm lucky to know what ruby is.
[03:26] <ghostkernel> LOL@Poisoned_Dragon
[03:26] <Poisoned_Dragon> XD
[03:59] <xubuntu960> wow! great
[03:59] <xubuntu960> is there someone that can snwer some generic questions about xubuntu?
[04:00] <xubuntu960> xubuntu 13.x
[04:02] <Chanshark> depends on the question :)
[04:02] <xubuntu960> ah!ok
[04:02] <xubuntu960> yes
[04:02] <xubuntu960> i'm going to use remastersys on an 10GB Xubuntu installation
[04:03] <xubuntu960> i read some about the opportunity to modify GRUB and SPLASH screens, and naturally, the packages list
[04:03] <xubuntu960> but i don't know if it is allowed
[04:03] <xubuntu960> by Xubuntu Terms,,,,
[04:03] <Chanshark> oh, i dont know
[04:04] <xubuntu960> ah! lol!
[04:04] <Poisoned_Dragon> I missed the question.
[04:05] <ObrienDave> I'm sure you can add an image to grub background
[04:05] <xubuntu960> ahahah no problem....is an hard question
[04:05] <Poisoned_Dragon> Oh, it's a grub thing. I'm clueless.
[04:05] <xubuntu960> yes, but it's not only a restyle
[04:06] <xubuntu960> it's a kinda of modding
[04:06] <ObrienDave> and I had an image for login screen. don't remember how I did that ;P
[04:10] <Chanshark> brb
[04:15] <Chanshark> is anyone else have a weird text corruptionish looking thing problem?
[04:16] <ObrienDave> what kind of "weird text corruptionish looking thing problem"?
[04:17] <Chanshark> so like im typing and when every once and a while the text will be like looking sorta corrupted like for example if it was a "e" you would not really be able to tell it was
[04:18] <ObrienDave> can you pastebin a screenshot for us?
[04:18] <ObrienDave> or imgur?
[04:18] <Chanshark> umm yea give me a second i need it to show up
[04:19] <ObrienDave> k
[04:20] <Chanshark> but i guess now its not showing up XD , but when i highlight it, it fixes the text
[04:22] <Poisoned_Dragon> You mean like parts of the letter are missing?
[04:22] <Chanshark> yeah
[04:23] <Poisoned_Dragon> I sometimes get that effect on my eeepc 701 netbook. I think, in that regard, it has something to do with the intel gpu.
[04:55] <Chanshark> ObrienDave:  it happened again but i went to get the screenshot application and when the menu dropped down it fixed itself lol
[04:56] <Poisoned_Dragon> lol
[04:56] <ObrienDave> suspect your integrated graphics is taxing the limits of it's memory ;)
[04:58] <Chanshark> also it only started happening when i updated xubuntu
[05:08] <nonuby> whats the latest solution to the leak in clojure web apps in servlet container (i.e. immutant/jboss), is it safe to use 1.6.0alpha2 if I not in my layers doing any thread local rebinding?
[05:09] <nonuby> wrong room doh
[05:18] <lachvalk> Anyone here run Balsa as an email client?
[07:21] <greenmockingbird> hey guys new xubuntu user here
[07:22] <greenmockingbird> looking forsome help onscrypts @ startup
[07:22] <greenmockingbird> I put my scrypt in rc.local but it still does not execute on startup
[07:23] <greenmockingbird> I can run it manually but it needsto runon start up. anyone know where I can check a log to find out why it fails to run?
[07:23] <baizon> greenmockingbird: why no adding it to session and startup?
[07:24] <baizon> working there for me :)
[07:25] <greenmockingbird> I made a scrypt to call the scrypt i need in etc/profile.d also but no go
[07:25] <greenmockingbird> is that what you mean?
[07:25] <baizon> greenmockingbird: http://askubuntu.com/questions/304201/what-are-all-the-autostart-locations-in-ubuntu
[07:25] <greenmockingbird> just installed it tonight and have had a crash corse in trying to learn
[07:25] <ObrienDave> might have to make the calling script executable
[07:25] <greenmockingbird> right on! thanks I'll check there and give it a shot
[07:25] <greenmockingbird> chmod +x right
[07:26] <baizon> oha, ok
[07:26] <baizon> +x is a different thing :P
[07:26] <greenmockingbird> i'm using 12.10 if that matters
[07:26] <koegs> greenmockingbird: what does it? should it execute, when the system start or when you login? keep in mind rc.local does execute it as root, not as your user
[07:26] <ObrienDave> shouldn't
[07:26] <greenmockingbird> oooooooh well that helps out a lot
[07:27] <greenmockingbird> thats cool its a mining scrypt
[07:27] <greenmockingbird> have several running win but wanted to give this a try, after setup i think it'l; be better
[07:28] <greenmockingbird> how would Imake the scrypt executable
[07:29] <koegs> greenmockingbird: actually it is called a "script", not "scrypt", might come in handy when you try to google something :)
[07:30] <greenmockingbird> lol thanks
[07:30] <greenmockingbird> just noticed I was typing that
[07:30] <koegs> and yes, "chmod +x yourfile" will make it executable
[07:30] <greenmockingbird> ok
[07:31] <greenmockingbird> I followed cryptobadgers guide for linux setup fr xubuntu 12.10 and elected to not upgrade to 13, wanting to stay with the guide if I had any issues
[07:32] <greenmockingbird> already found and fixed the "x needs to be running" issue
[07:32] <greenmockingbird> had an issue with it hanging on shutdown or reboot and fixed that through the workaround also
[07:33] <greenmockingbird> but this startup script has me stumped, that and in my tinkering grub now wont autoboot... tried editingthe grub file and that got me nowhere
[07:34] <greenmockingbird> so, I'm tackeling one issue at a time
[07:37] <greenmockingbird> in my rc.local file I've added a line /home/miner2/miner_launcher.sh 30 &
[07:38] <greenmockingbird> there is nothing else there except exit 0 at the end of the file...
[07:38] <greenmockingbird> havei missed something on calling the script?
[07:38] <greenmockingbird> and yes miner_launcher.sh has been chmod +x
[07:41] <greenmockingbird> I can run miner_launcher.sh directly and it works normally but it just wontload on startup
[07:42] <ObrienDave> add it to startup and sessions, autostart
[07:43] <greenmockingbird> etc/init.d and /etc/xdg/autostart/ correct?
[07:44] <ObrienDave> i dunno, i go through GUI ;P
[07:44] <greenmockingbird> lol
[07:44] <greenmockingbird> right on cant hurt lol
[07:45] <ObrienDave> gave up most CLI stuff at WIN95 ;P
[08:15] <assistente> if i boot the standard xubuntu livecd, network come up and takes ip from dhcp, and default router and dns. If i boot the customized cd ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization ) the network don't come up. someone can help me to understand why?
[08:16] <ObrienDave> !crosspost
[08:39] <assistente> i have 2 problem with a xubuntu customized livecd: 1) /etc/resolv.conf is not created by dhcp  2) volume control on the xfree taskbar don't work. howto fix? i followed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[08:45] <ObrienDave> assistente, there is a fix for the volume control. now let's see if I can find it LOL
[08:47] <ObrienDave> try this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/360806/volume-indicator-issue-after-xubuntu-13-10-upgrade
[08:50] <xubuntu773> please any one help me how to install cs6 in xubuntu 13.04
[08:50] <xubuntu773> ?
[08:51] <ObrienDave> cs6?
[08:52] <ObrienDave> you mean like, Adobe CS6? wouldn't that require WINE?
[08:58] <elfy> yea - but they've gone now :)
[08:59] <ObrienDave> yea, POOFERS ;P
[09:03] <assistente> ObrienDave, your solution works! i edit also the customized livecd
[09:03] <ObrienDave> glad to be of assistance :) thank you for letting me know :))
[09:03] <elfy> the fix for that has been releases I believe
[09:03] <assistente> i have also this other problem:  /etc/resolv.conf is not created by dhcp when i boot xubuntu customized cd
[09:04] <ObrienDave> elfy, I think he's starting with the live ISO, then customizing
[09:05] <elfy> yea - but I believe the fix is released now
[09:05] <elfy> though whether it's made it to 12.10 iso's I don't know - was just a comment
[09:39] <assistente> i have also this other problem:  /etc/resolv.conf is not created by dhcp when i boot xubuntu customized cd
[09:58] <assistente> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2193298 someone can help me?
[10:00] <ObrienDave> !crosspost | assistente
[10:01] <assistente> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2193298 someone can help me?there none answer for now ;P
[10:01] <ObrienDave> also see !patience
[10:01] <ObrienDave> !patience
[10:03] <assistente> okY
[10:36] <amjjawad> Hello elfy :)
[10:37]  * ObrienDave thinks elfy is AFK
[10:38] <amjjawad> ObrienDave, no problem :) nothing urgent :) thank you!
[10:39] <ObrienDave> welcome
[10:47] <Unit193> amjjawad: This is a support channel, if you have a question just ask and anyone that's here right now and knows will likely answer.
[10:49] <amjjawad> Unit193, I am aware of that, thank you :) I have nothing urgent and I have no support Q :) thank you again :)
[10:53] <amjjawad> Unit193, but since you are here, an IRC Q just now popped into my mind. When someone clicks on my name here on IRC, I want him/her to see some details like my Wiki Page. How can I do that?
[10:54] <Unit193> May not be the right channel for that, I don't know what client, look up the realname config for it though.
[10:55] <ObrienDave> hmm, AFAIK whois is as close as one could get
[10:55] <Unit193> yep.
[10:55] <elfy> that's offtopic for here though
[10:55] <elfy> hello amjjawad
[10:55] <Unit193> Best to ask the channel rather than targetting people.
[10:55] <amjjawad> elfy, hello :) and I know this is off-topic ;)
[10:56] <Myrtti> /msg nickserv help set property
[10:56] <amjjawad> ObrienDave, I know "whois" will display that but I want it to display my wiki page
[10:56] <amjjawad> that what I was asking but again, nothing urgent nor serious
[10:56] <Myrtti> then set your wikipage as your realname
[10:57] <amjjawad> amjjawad is my IRC name and Wiki Page as well
[10:57] <Myrtti> I think you're confused with what IRC is then
[10:58] <Unit193> Sounds like.
[10:58] <amjjawad> "<Unit193> Best to ask the channel rather than targetting people." << Unit193 what do you mean?
[10:59] <Myrtti> besides, you're not registered on this IRC network so technically amjjawad isn't 'your IRC name'
[11:00] <amjjawad> 3 years ago, I did that but I am not an IRC type of user and I guess I will never be :) I just don't like it much :)
[11:01] <amjjawad> never mind, it seems I am asking a hard Q in the wrong place :)
[11:01] <Myrtti> no, you're just not getting the answers you want
[11:01] <cfhowlett> amjjawad, ?? start buntu amjjawad
[11:01] <Myrtti> the question is easy
[11:01] <cfhowlett> ?
[11:01] <elfy> Myrtti: indeed
[11:01] <amjjawad> cfhowlett, yep
[11:02] <amjjawad> Myrtti, never mind, please ignore my Q :)
[11:02] <cfhowlett> amjjawad, as you didn't answer my email: the ubuntustudio logo is wrong.  I've got the official logo if you want it ...
[11:02] <amjjawad> cfhowlett, I am not answering any email because I am so busy in Real Life with my campaign/Project
[11:03] <amjjawad> but I have seen it. And I am not the one who created the artwork, it is Rafael, Lubuntu Artwork Team Leader so I will let him know :)
[11:03] <cfhowlett> amjjawad, noted ... does make it problematic to communicate with you, however ...
[11:03] <elfy> can we take the offtopic stuff elsewhere please
[11:03] <cfhowlett> elfy, right.  sorry
[11:03] <amjjawad> elfy, do you have an offtopic channel?
[11:04] <ObrienDave> #xubuntu-offtopic
[11:04] <amjjawad> ObrienDave, thanks :)
[11:17] <amjjawad> hope my next Q is NOT offtopic :)
[11:17] <amjjawad> Xubuntu 12.04 and Xubuntu 13.10 = I have noticed that 12.04 is much stable and faster. Is it only me?
[11:17] <amjjawad> obviously it is stable but it is faster too!
[11:18] <sambal> Is there a way I can default ubuntu 13.10 to boot to command line only and not to GUI by default? When I want, I want to be able to launch XFCE
[11:18] <TheSheep> amjjawad: what is faster exactly?
[11:18] <amjjawad> TheSheep, everything
[11:19] <Myrtti> if you've tried them in succession on the same device then it's no surprise if the older one is faster. It's always a tradeoff.
[11:19] <amjjawad> I have installed Xubuntu 12.04 on HP Mini VIA C7 M CPU with 512MB RAM and it is going great
[11:19] <Myrtti> sambal: I'm sure there's a way to set up so lightdm doesn't automatically start
[11:19] <sambal> Maybe you can check what is running in 13.10 that you want to stop, if you do not need
[11:19] <TheSheep> sambal: sure, just disable lightdm in the boot scripts
[11:19] <amjjawad> Lubuntu 13.10 failed to be installed on that machine so I had to choose Xub 12.04
[11:19] <sambal> Myrtti: But even if lightdm does not start, will networking start up?
[11:20] <Myrtti> sambal: sure
[11:20] <sambal> Good :)
[11:20] <Myrtti> they're not related
[11:20] <Unit193> sambal: Change /etc/default/grub and add  text  to defualt options
[11:20] <Unit193> (So,  quiet splash text, or remove those others for text log.)
[11:20] <sambal> So the laptop can still connect to the wifi without me having to give the details?
[11:21] <cub> amjjawad, do you have any figures to support that or is it user experience that "everything is faster"?
[11:21] <sambal> I thought the wifi negotiation happened after I logged onto XFCE.
[11:22] <amjjawad> cub, my findings :)
[11:22] <amjjawad> I am converting my neighborhood to Linux and I am using Xubuntu 12.04 as my first choice unless the machine is super weak and low
[11:23] <sambal> Well, if 12.04 is working fine, just use it, man
[11:23] <amjjawad> 11 laptops have been converted so far and Xubuntu 12.04 was installed on many of these even the one with 512MB RAM where 13.10 releases failed
[11:24] <amjjawad> sambal, this is what I am using on 'my' personal machines recently. I have switched from Lub to Xub
[11:24] <amjjawad>  but when I asked on the mailing list the other day, many advised to use the latest 13.10
[11:24] <amjjawad> I guess I will stick to 12.04 and wait for 14.04
[11:24] <Myrtti> I can't remember if 12.04 was LTS for Xubuntu
[11:24] <ObrienDave> yes
[11:24] <amjjawad> Yes Myrtti it is
[11:25] <sambal> amjjawad: Yep, just stick to what works :) You can upgrade whatever packages are needed
[11:25] <amjjawad> can I then upgrade 'directly' from 12.04 to 14.04 without going through 13.04 and 13.10 ???
[11:25] <Myrtti> then sure, if there's no glaring problems with 12.04, use it
[11:25] <ObrienDave> amjjawad, yes
[11:25] <Myrtti> that's the goal at least
[11:25] <sambal> My 13.10 install is not 30 mins done yet. Slowly downloading stuff
[11:25] <cub> amjjawad, yes you should be able to upgrade from LTS to the next LTS
[11:25] <amjjawad> that is great news :D
[11:26] <sambal> What makes you think 14.04 will install where 13.10 failed? :o
[11:26] <amjjawad> do you expect a newcomers to Linux to be able to do that alone?
[11:26] <cub> amjjawad, you mean upgrade?
[11:26] <amjjawad> cub, yes
[11:26] <sambal> You can tell them what to do :p Edit 1 file, and then upgrade
[11:27] <amjjawad> note that they are totally NEW :)
[11:27] <Myrtti> sambal: there's not file editing involved, just one command
[11:27] <Myrtti> s/not/no/
[11:27] <sambal> See, even better, amjjawad
[11:27] <sambal> They just execute a command
[11:27] <amjjawad> but I keep a list of their names and phone numbers etc and they are not so far but the number is increasing day after day
[11:27] <sambal> I used to edit the sources.list file, but if there is a command, can just use it
[11:27] <cub> I'm not sure which thread we're talking about now. New users being able to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04? Or new users being able to use 12.04 and upgrade some packages?
[11:28] <sambal> The first one, cub
[11:28] <amjjawad> I am talking about the upgrade process from 12.04 to 14.04
[11:29] <sambal> Is there a package that helps to find the fastest mirror?
[11:29] <Myrtti> sambal: you can do that from the gui
[11:29] <sambal> Myrtti: What to use?
[11:29] <Myrtti> atleast if things aren't too different from main Ubuntu
[11:30] <amjjawad> sambal, I usually go to Synaptic and change the server if needed
[11:30] <sambal> Do you get a list of servers there?
[11:30] <amjjawad> sambal, sure I do
[11:31] <amjjawad> I choose "select best server"
[11:31] <Myrtti> http://askubuntu.com/a/37825
[11:31] <cub> I believe the Software Updater will announce that there's is a new version to upgrade to and ask the user if they want to upgrade to 14.04? Should be as "simple" as Windows Update or the Mac updates
[11:31] <Myrtti> cub: indeed
[11:31] <sambal> I don't think Synaptic is installed by default on my laptop
[11:31] <sambal> And this is a clean 13.10 install
[11:32] <amjjawad> cub, yes, I am aware but for a newcomer, I just don't want them to mess around with their installation
[11:32] <amjjawad> sambal, oh, I am using 12.04 right now so not sure about 13.10
[11:32] <Myrtti> sambal: there should be an equivalent of software sources or similar
[11:32] <Myrtti> if nothing else, you should get there from the software updater options
[11:33] <sambal> There is. Software manager, or something
[11:33] <amjjawad> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[11:33] <amjjawad> I am not a fan of Software Centers
[11:33] <sambal> Yeah, installed synaptic. Let me check that.
[11:33] <amjjawad> sambal, sure :) tyt
[11:34] <amjjawad> I want to do a test. I want to 'force' upgrade 12.04 to Trusty
[11:34] <amjjawad> can someone please remind me how to do that?
[11:35] <Myrtti> sudo do-release-upgrade -d If I remember right
[11:35] <sambal> Bah. There are 2 mirrors in Singapore.
[11:35] <sambal> Excellent.
[11:35] <amjjawad> Myrtti, and no need to change anything else? a file or something, right?
[11:35] <Myrtti> well
[11:35] <Myrtti> do you have ppa's set up?
[11:35] <sambal> apt-get update took 5 seconds. Down from 3-4 minutes
[11:36] <amjjawad> Myrtti, for the test I want to do, nop
[11:36] <amjjawad> sambal, wow, super nice ... enjoy :D
[11:36] <Myrtti> then it probably just works
[11:36] <amjjawad> Myrtti, thanks, I will do a fresh new installation for Xub 12.04 on my test machine (P4 with less than 512MB RAM) and test that :)
[11:39] <sambal> Any of you here use LateX or TeX/
[11:39] <amjjawad> grrr. no default or UI configuration found :/
[11:40] <amjjawad> http://phillw.net/hardware/BnA9pw11 << my test machine
[11:40] <Myrtti> sambal: sure
[11:40] <amjjawad> and I am using the same LiveUSB I have used to do 10 installations of Xub 12.04 :/
[11:40] <ObrienDave> disk went bad?
[11:41] <amjjawad> I just used it a while ago and it worked :(
[11:41] <amjjawad> my test PC does not like my LiveUSB
[11:41] <ObrienDave> what's a "while ago"
[11:41] <ObrienDave> never mind, assumed DVD
[11:41] <amjjawad> few hours ago maybe
[11:42] <amjjawad> I've been using the same USB for weeks now
[11:42] <assistente> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2193298 someone can help me?
[11:43] <amjjawad> it says: Error, no configuration file found - No default or UI config directive found
[11:44] <sambal> Is there a post install script that I can run to check and install packages if I want to?
[11:45] <amjjawad> sambal, there is a command that lists all the installed packages but I forgot it :(
[11:45] <sambal> Um
[11:45] <sambal> dpkg -l | grep ii will give me the installed packages
[11:45] <sambal> I don't want that.
[11:45] <amjjawad> http://askubuntu.com/questions/17823/how-to-list-all-installed-packages
[11:45] <amjjawad> is this what you want?
[11:46] <sambal> Post install - a walkthrough to let me know if I have missed out on things. Like install some restricted codes, or fonts, etc
[11:46] <amjjawad> sambal, not sure but I always do: apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras after each and every install
[11:47] <amjjawad> that is more than enough for me. Then add step my step the programs I need to use like GParted, Shotwel, VLC, etc
[11:48] <sambal> amjjawad: Oh okay
[11:48] <sambal> Just ran that
[11:48] <amjjawad> sambal, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[11:49] <sambal> What is shotwel?
[11:49] <Myrtti> photo management software
[11:49] <amjjawad> Myrtti, I can't dig deeper into the LiveUSB and why it is not booting now so I will upgrade 13.10 to Trusty and then try maybe with a virtual machine for 12.04 to TT
[11:49] <amjjawad> sambal, I use it to crop the images and I like it
[11:50] <amjjawad> it is the default with Ubuntu GNOME :)
[12:14] <amjjawad> do-release-upgrade -d ... upgrading 13.10 to Trusty in progress :)
[12:14]  * ObrienDave is not that brave ;P
[12:15] <knome> this isn't the right channel to discuss that
[12:15] <amjjawad> knome, ?
[12:16] <knome> amjjawad, trusty isn't released; you can discuss upgrading to it in #ubuntu+1
[12:16] <amjjawad> I have been discussing with the guys here about how to do upgrade, etc
[12:16] <amjjawad> I did not know it is NOT allowed :)
[12:16] <amjjawad> why everything is not allowed here? this is the 2nd time :)
[12:17] <amjjawad> no one told me to take that elsewhere - about upgrading
[12:17] <amjjawad> anyway, it is ok!!!!
[12:21]  * cfhowlett thinks installing a pre-alpha release is ... not adviseable
[12:23] <ObrienDave> it's not on their main computer ;)
[12:42] <amjjawad> cfhowlett, upgrade failed anyway :D so will leave it now, I am not in the mood
[12:45] <koegs> does catfish support wildcards?
[12:45] <ObrienDave> yes
[12:46] <koegs> so i click "type = Videos", select the location and how do i search for "all videos"?
[12:48] <ObrienDave> *
[12:48] <koegs> ok, wasnt patient enough, thx
[12:51] <ObrienDave> linux does not recognize file extensions the same way as windows. it's just a part of the file name
[12:52] <koegs> i know
[12:52] <ObrienDave> k
[13:29] <assistente> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2193298 solutions?
[14:32] <greenmockingbird> ok so i've tried adding my script to rc.local and /etc/profile.d/ and no luck
[14:33] <greenmockingbird> tried using the gui and manually added it to session/startup application autostartup but the script still does not start when the system boots
[14:33] <greenmockingbird> any ideas?
[14:33] <greenmockingbird> the script is executable and I can call it manually from terminal
[14:35] <greenmockingbird> ohhhhh now i can't call that script directly.....
[14:36] <greenmockingbird> ok fixed that, now the script runns when called directly
[14:37] <greenmockingbird> fixed the autoboot issue with my grub so now this script is the last stumbling block before I call this experiment good...
[14:37] <greenmockingbird> I will say that using linux is a learning experience
[14:39] <Poisoned_Dragon> what does the script do?
[14:44] <greenmockingbird> it just runs cgminer
[14:45] <Poisoned_Dragon> oh... bitcoin stuff
[14:46] <Poisoned_Dragon> Were you the one having X crashing issues?
[14:47] <greenmockingbird> noifixed that last night before i came here
[14:47] <greenmockingbird>  i just cant get this script to autostart
[14:49] <Poisoned_Dragon> hmm...
[14:49] <Poisoned_Dragon> do you put the full path?
[14:49] <greenmockingbird> i noticed when i go to rc.local it says i must modify execution bits
[14:50] <koegs> rc.local will call this script as root-user, most probably not what you want
[14:50] <koegs> can you nopaste that script?
[14:50] <koegs> !paste
[14:50] <greenmockingbird> yeah one sec
[14:53] <greenmockingbird> I added a line to rc.local its the only line I added and the only line other than exit 0 not commented out
[14:53] <greenmockingbird> wth i cant paste it here..
[14:54] <koegs> greenmockingbird: i want to see what you added to rc.local and i want to see the script
[14:55] <greenmockingbird> workig on that... /home/miner2/miner_launcher.sh 30 & is what I added to the rc.local
[14:55] <greenmockingbird> thats is the only line I added to rc.local
[14:56] <koegs> and it should be executed as root or as user "miner2"
[14:56] <greenmockingbird> but the odd thing is after boot up I can ssh in and call miner_launcher.sh direct with ./miner_launcher.sh and it works correctly
[14:57] <greenmockingbird> !paste
[14:57] <greenmockingbird> lol my brain must not be working
[14:57] <greenmockingbird> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6561753/
[14:58] <greenmockingbird> thats the text of miner_launcher.sh
[14:58] <greenmockingbird> when called directly it works but it just doesnt seem to run at startup
[14:59] <koegs> greenmockingbird: do you login as root via ssh or as miner2?
[14:59] <greenmockingbird> miner2
[14:59] <greenmockingbird> is that why su doesnt work?
[14:59] <koegs> then try the following in rc.local "su - miner2 -c /home/miner2/miner_launcher.sh 30 &"
[14:59] <koegs> might be redundant but ok for a quick test
[15:00] <greenmockingbird> right on one sec
[15:02] <greenmockingbird> no quotes i assume correct?
[15:02] <koegs> yes
[15:04] <greenmockingbird> no dice
[15:06] <greenmockingbird> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6561788/
[15:06] <greenmockingbird> thats rc.local
[15:07] <koegs> basically, you do not need that launch script
[15:07] <greenmockingbird> do i need to chmod +x rc.local?
[15:07] <koegs> no
[15:07] <greenmockingbird> oh ok
[15:07] <koegs> just use "su miner2 -c "screen -dmS cgm /home/miner2/mine_digitalcoins.sh" directly
[15:08] <greenmockingbird> so basically I'mdumb lol
[15:08] <greenmockingbird> I'll try that
[15:13] <greenmockingbird> POW!!!!
[15:13] <greenmockingbird> that works!!
[15:20] <greenmockingbird> koegs Thanks for the help man that worked first trry
[15:25] <cub> Perhaps this is a bit far fetched idea but: I can run a xubuntu in a virtualbox on my work laptop, or I can use a USB stick and boot into a xbuntu installed on that usb stick
[15:26] <koegs> cub: you can do both
[15:26] <cub> Would it be possible to have a usb stick which I could run from within my work laptop directly?
[15:26] <cub> koegs, how would I do both?
[15:27] <assistente> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2193298 solutions?
[15:27] <koegs> cub: you can install xubuntu to a usb-stick just like you would install it to a harddrive, then boot the usb-stick
[15:27] <Khep> hello here
[15:27] <Khep> im looking for a very simple but effective audio player for linux (in command line)...
[15:27] <cub> koegs, but then I would "only" boot into xubuntu and can't use the mac os at the same time, as I do when running xubuntu through Virtualbox inside mac os
[15:28] <koegs> cub: correct, if you want to use both at the same time, then i would use virtualbox
[15:29] <cub> I was hoping there would be a solution to combine them, so I could bring my usb stick home and continue in the exact same environment
[15:29] <koegs> as far as i know, most of the virtualization software is not able to boot from a usb-stick
[15:30] <koegs> so you might get it working somehow but not without a lot of effort
[15:31] <cub> yeah, I need to do more investigation. :)
[15:34] <koegs> Khep: cmus is popular
[15:35] <assistente> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2193298 solutions?
[15:35] <koegs> !patience | assistente
[15:37] <assistente> is 2 days that i wait for a answer... none that can help me?
[15:41] <koegs> Khep: moc also looks interesting
[16:05] <Khep> arf
[16:06] <Khep> i have a cut
[16:06] <Matt___> Hello, sorry for my ignorance in advance.  I'm having trouble installing xubuntu from a usb stick onto another usb stick. The installation seemed to be complete, I restarted the computer along with removing the usb with the xubuntu media but xubuntu won't boot. I'd appreciate any help, thanks
[16:06] <Khep> koegs: moc is good, what are the precedent recommendation, internet has cut i lost messages :(
[16:06] <GridCube> Matt___, grub probably got isntalled to the usb you removed
[16:07] <koegs> Khep: nothing after moc
[16:07] <GridCube> i suggest you to retry using both usb, and then try to run boot-repair to choose where grub should go
[16:07] <Matt___> Thanks Grid, I'll let you know how it goes
[16:07] <Khep> yes but before moc ?
[16:07] <Khep> i start to read and i lost everything
[16:08] <koegs> cmus and moc
[16:11] <Khep> ok thx
[16:11] <Khep> if you have a choice between cmus and mplayer
[16:12] <koegs> moc has just become my favorite :D
[16:14] <GridCube> assistente, no one here seems to know for the moment
[16:14] <Khep> let's try it
[16:14] <Khep> thx
[16:14] <assistente> GridCube, i find also this post http://lists.debian.org/debian-live/2009/04/msg00040.html
[16:14] <assistente> but i don't understand
[16:14] <assistente> do you know?
[16:15] <GridCube> sorry, i have no idea of this science
[16:17] <Matt___> Hi Grid. If the media usb is in it wants to install xubuntu again. If the usb which xubuntu supposedly got installed on in in then it won't accept it as a proper boot device. How do I get into the boot repair?
[16:25] <Khep> can someone speak to me plzz
[16:25] <Khep> it's a test for my irssi config
[16:25] <Khep> thx much
[16:26] <knome> Khep, speak, but please test on other channels next time
[16:26] <Khep> knome: thx much man, it was just once, it's working perfectly
[16:26] <knome> Khep, sure, just saying :) good to hear it works
[16:29] <us|0gb> Quick question: Is everything at https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/xfce-4.10 free? I know not everything in Xubuntu is free, but I am hoping everything in that PPA is.
[16:29] <GridCube> Matt___, boot in a live session, not the installer
[16:29] <GridCube> then use boot-repair
[16:30] <knome> us|0gb, it's as the normal xfce packages: yes it's free; please not that you are using the PPA on your own responsibility
[16:31] <knome> *note
[16:32] <us|0gb> knome: Thanks! Yeah, I know I use PPAs (or any added repositories) at my own risk. I installed a kernel one time from one, and it killed my VirtualBox installation. I wasn't able to fix it either, and had to reinstall the whole system.
[16:33] <us|0gb> If Xfce4 bugs up on me, I should be able to recover my data from my partial LXDE desktop, then reinstall again.
[16:54] <us`0gb> My top panel is now huge and the panel items are all on the left (before, some were on the right). I think deleting my Xfce configuration and letting the updated Xfce build new configuration may be in order.
[16:59] <us^0gb> MUCH better. It seems the Xfce configuration file format has changed, and is incompatible with old versions.
[17:39] <amjjawad> need some help here
[17:39] <Chanshark> what seems to be the problem?
[17:40] <amjjawad> Xubuntu 12.04 installed on HP Pavilion TX 1000
[17:40] <amjjawad> I left the room, the machine went to screensaver
[17:40] <amjjawad> came back and when I moved the mouse, there is no cursor
[17:40] <amjjawad> I still can see the right click menu and everything works but no cursor
[17:40] <amjjawad> thoughts?
[17:41] <Chanshark> does it come back when you restart your computer?
[17:42] <amjjawad> I didn't but this is not my machine, I just got it few hours ago from my neighbor to convert it from Windows to Linux
[17:42] <amjjawad> so I am trying to solve this before I give him his laptop back as I don't want him to see the same issue
[17:42] <amjjawad> he is totally new to Linux
[17:43] <Chanshark> if you restart the linux machine is the cursor visible though?
[17:43] <amjjawad> let me reboot :)
[17:43] <Chanshark> ok :)
[17:43] <amjjawad> I know it might be back but I don't want to see the same issue again :D
[17:44] <Chanshark> well if its back i think i know the problem
[17:44] <Chanshark> and its a really easy fix
[17:44] <amjjawad> that is good to know :)
[17:44] <amjjawad> can I add one more thing? the fan is not stopping it works on full speed :/
[17:45] <Chanshark> im not sure about that let me google it lol
[17:45] <amjjawad> I know that machine has only 512MB RAM but Xubuntu 12.04 was a huge success for my installations on low hardware so I take my chances
[17:45] <Chanshark> also amjjawad, im working off this http://askubuntu.com/questions/367459/mouse-cursor-disappearing-at-every-second-boot-ubuntu-13-10 because they seemed to have the same problem
[17:46] <amjjawad> oh ok
[17:46] <amjjawad> I got the mouse back
[17:47] <Chanshark> so yeah i think that may be the problem, but i would ask someone better at this then me, because i installed xubuntu like a week ago lol
[17:47] <Chanshark> just to make sure
[17:47] <amjjawad> I have disabled Screensaver
[17:47] <amjjawad> I don't want to tell him to reboot the machine to get the cursor back :D
[17:48] <amjjawad> I need to install Broadcom drivers so must take it to the other room where my router is and connect it via LAN cable
[17:49] <Chanshark> lol i have been to lazy to install my wireless drivers so i just am using like 50ft of Ethernet cable :P
[17:50]  * ObrienDave has both, wireed and wireless going lol
[17:50] <PhoenixSTF> hey guys
[17:51] <ObrienDave> greetings
[17:51] <Chanshark> hey
[17:51] <amjjawad> my room is a real mess because I have many machines now ... my neighbors became so much excited when he was reading my posts about Linux on a facebook group and he gave me 5 machines, all converted to Linux
[17:51] <amjjawad> so I need to use the wireless ... don't have enough cables :D
[17:52] <amjjawad> hello PhoenixSTF :)
[17:52] <Chanshark> make sure you save the keys though lol
[17:52] <amjjawad> keys?
[17:52] <Chanshark> incase he ever wants to duel boot or somthing
[17:52] <Chanshark> yeah for windows
[17:52] <ObrienDave> i'm just too lazy to coil up the cable
[17:52] <amjjawad> Windows is GONE :D
[17:52] <amjjawad> and these machines are so old
[17:52] <amjjawad> barely handle WinXP
[17:53] <Chanshark> i switched this computer to xubuntu because it has corrupt memory and cant handle windows but then i fell in love with linux :P so when i get my new motherboard for my newer computer im converting it
[17:55] <PhoenixSTF> is it normal for xubuntu to wake the system up from suspension whe a desk light is turned on?
[17:56] <ObrienDave> umm, no
[17:56] <PhoenixSTF> lol
[17:56] <PhoenixSTF> wierd :)
[17:57] <ObrienDave> i suspect when you turn on the light, you joggle the mouse or something like that
[17:57] <ObrienDave> that will wake the system
[17:58] <PhoenixSTF> ObrienDave, no, I light my desk light form the back of the desk
[17:59] <PhoenixSTF> I do not mix with any equipment or touch anything on the pc
[17:59] <ObrienDave> do you bump the desk?
[17:59] <PhoenixSTF> No!
[17:59] <PhoenixSTF> i've tested it
[17:59] <PhoenixSTF> maybe it is the power surge from the lamp
[18:00] <ObrienDave> that was going to be my next thought :)
[18:00] <PhoenixSTF> :)
[18:00] <ObrienDave> what kind of lamp? fluorescent? halogen?
[18:01] <ObrienDave> led?
[18:01] <PhoenixSTF> Flurescent
[18:01] <ObrienDave> how close is it to your system?
[18:01] <PhoenixSTF> small 9 watt lamp
[18:02] <ObrienDave> distance?
[18:02] <PhoenixSTF> next to it but i move the lamp else where, the only thing in comon is wall socket
[18:02] <PhoenixSTF> tsted
[18:02] <PhoenixSTF> so probably power surge
[18:03] <ObrienDave> try surge supression power strip on system. could help
[18:03] <PhoenixSTF> that or it's haunted
[18:04]  * ObrienDave goes with haunted
[18:04] <PhoenixSTF> xD
[18:05] <PhoenixSTF> anyways how is xubuntu 14.04? testing yet?
[18:05] <ObrienDave> i've been testing the daily build, nothing to shout about yet
[18:06] <PhoenixSTF> Xfce version?
[18:06] <ObrienDave> yes, i won't run anything else ;P
[18:06] <PhoenixSTF> I mean is it with 4.10?
[18:07] <ObrienDave> yes
[18:07] <ObrienDave> Xubuntu 14.10 trusty daily build
[18:07] <PhoenixSTF> I mean xfce version is it with 4.10 or 4.12?
[18:08] <ObrienDave> hmm, let me check, sec
[18:08] <knome> there is no 14.10.
[18:08] <knome> trusty is 14.04
[18:09] <ObrienDave> yea, i caught it a bit late ;P
[18:09] <PhoenixSTF> you know that trusty tar in my language means reliable goat?
[18:10] <knome> PhoenixSTF, that's what it is supposed to mean.
[18:10] <PhoenixSTF> knome, right! lo
[18:10] <PhoenixSTF> but goat in my language has secondary meanings
[18:11] <knome> not sure they are suitable for this channel, so i'd ask not to go further
[18:11] <PhoenixSTF> knome, I wont
[18:11] <knome> besides, general chatter in #xubuntu-offtopic
[18:11] <PhoenixSTF> there is a offtopic
[18:11] <PhoenixSTF> ???
[18:11] <PhoenixSTF> thanks :)
[18:14] <PhoenixSTF> anyways I got a little issue with some full screen programs, my screen setup is 2 monitors, one landscape and one portrait, and some times on my landscape things go off screen
[18:15] <PhoenixSTF> they do not seem to stop at screen boundary and go for the full area even if it is not visable
[18:20] <krytarik> amjjawad: Seems like that laptop is affected by this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/492782
[18:52] <xubuntu298> is gstreamer open source?
[18:53] <Poisoned_Dragon> I should hope so
[18:54] <xubuntu298> I just googled it and got the official site
[18:54] <xubuntu298> I think is this one http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/
[18:55] <xubuntu298> stable is 1.21 but restrectedd extras install a 0.10 version why
[19:01] <Poisoned_Dragon> best to ask the developers of gstreamere
[19:01] <GridCube> !search gstreamer
[19:02] <GridCube> !find gstreamer
[19:02] <GridCube> mmm i see references to gstreamer 1.0
[19:02] <xubuntu298> right
[19:03] <xubuntu298> I wanna install the gstreamer codecs only without flash java etc from restricted extras
[19:03] <xubuntu298> which packges are those
[19:04] <GridCube> xubuntu298, the list http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/xubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:05] <GridCube> and see the depend http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/xubuntu-restricted-addons
[19:05] <GridCube> java is not a restricted extra as far as i understand
[19:05] <xubuntu298> thank you GridCube you 've been very helpful :)
[19:16] <xubuntu298> how can i track firefox beta
[19:16] <xubuntu298> or aurora etc
[19:50] <amjjawad> feel bad :( I have installed Xubuntu 12.04 on HP TX1000 AMD with 512MB RAM. After installation, everything was fine but after apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade, the machine became slower and got black screen before the login manager. I don't know why
[19:50] <amjjawad> Xubuntu 12.04 worked perfectly fine on VIA C7 M with 512MB RAM. I thought AMD CPU is stronger than VIA
[20:15] <Joe__> Hello, I was wondering if someone can help me out with an error I got?
[20:18] <xubuntu189> wat