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| dennis__ | hi there, I am developing a small ubuntu app that is using the d-bus. The question is how should I name the dbus objects. I saw names like 'org.freedesktop.thermald'. But does it need to be a real internet domain name? | 02:53 |
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| sarnold | dennis__: I understand that something like com.ubuntu.user.sarnold is going to be available for those who do not wish to own a domain name. it'd be best to find a reference before using that specifically :) but I believe something similar ought to work | 03:05 |
| dennis__ | sarnold: Thanks for the example. I'll use that with my own name. I guess checking the references with d-feet should be sufficient. | 03:14 |
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| sarnold | dennis__: here we go! :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-qtcreator-plugins/+bug/1197037 | 03:17 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1197037 in click (Ubuntu) "applications should be installed in /opt, not /usr" [Undecided,Fix released] | 03:17 |
| dennis__ | Thanks, I'll check that out. | 03:29 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 07:45 |
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| dpm | morning mardy, I'm not sure if you saw the question yesterday: <dpm> hi mardy! I know we talked about this a few weeks ago, but I've been away for a couple of weeks too and I couldn't recall the status: are we at a stage that we can ship authentication plugins in click packages already? I'm thinking of the Evernote plugin, as right now we'd need to seed it to include in the images. | 08:52 |
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| mardy | dpm: hi! No, they are not ready yet. I'm working on that, but it's actually not even sure that we'll get them by 14.04 (though I'll try my best) | 08:53 |
| dpm | mardy, ok, thanks for the update. Is there any blueprint I can subscribe to to track the status? | 08:54 |
| mardy | dpm: let me check... | 08:55 |
| mzanetti | dpm: o/ | 08:58 |
| mzanetti | dpm: hey, I'll just start merging branches if someone approved, ok? | 08:58 |
| mardy | dpm: still drafting: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1311-online-accounts | 09:04 |
| dpm | mzanetti, morning! works for me, let me see if I can quickly test the SSL branch in about 15 mins | 09:04 |
| mzanetti | dpm: ok, cool. here's the link: https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/reminders-app/use-ssl/+merge/196986 | 09:04 |
| dpm | thanks | 09:08 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Friday the 13th, and happy Violin Day! :-D | 09:24 |
| mzanetti | dpm: btw. I found this doc yesterday: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AkBOG7Foul0ZdDVtd2doeDNCSDM5ZFBaRmFmTVdkbFE&usp=drive_web#gid=0 | 09:45 |
| mzanetti | dpm: I cross checked it with the current state and I think the c++ plugin supports everything that's marked mandatory except uploading pictures taken with the camera | 09:46 |
| mzanetti | so that's the next on my todo and then I can move over to some UI tuning | 09:46 |
| dpm | mzanetti, yeah, I created the doc a while ago to track the requirements, sorry to have not explicitly pointed you to it. That sounds good. I haven't looked into detail what uploading pictures involves, but I seem to recall it's a matter of uploading a note with an attachment | 09:48 |
| mzanetti | yeah. I think so | 09:48 |
| mzanetti | dpm: I realized that there are quite some API calls where we don't have any permissions | 09:48 |
| mzanetti | dpm: for example we cannot delete a notebook | 09:49 |
| mzanetti | do you know what's the plan there? I this going to be some sort of "official" app and we might get those permissions at some point or will we always stay a 3rd party app without those permissions? | 09:49 |
| dpm | mzanetti, I'll have to find out. Strange, as the API key should grant full permissions. Do you think you could create a quick list of the operations that require extra permissions and then we can ask the Evernote guys directly? | 09:50 |
| mzanetti | dpm: check out this: http://dev.evernote.com/doc/reference/NoteStore.html#Fn_NoteStore_expungeNotebook | 09:51 |
| mzanetti | dpm: there is a Note in the description | 09:52 |
| mzanetti | dpm: and there are more of those (I would need to walk through all of them to find out which ones exactly). But I'm pretty sure its a all or nothing thing. | 09:52 |
| mzanetti | as in: either we get access to all of those or none | 09:52 |
| mzanetti | and they know for sure which ones that are | 09:53 |
| dpm | oh, I see, so these permissions are by design | 09:53 |
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| dpm | Mirv, bzoltan, it seems that doing an upgrade the ubuntu-sdk and cordova packages are removed. Something to do with changes on the PPA? -> https://plus.google.com/+NekheleshRamananthan/posts/Uj93GQ9D3uV | 12:27 |
| bzoltan | dpm: I do not know about any change what would cause that | 12:28 |
| Mirv | dpm: I haven't touched the PPA for a while, all my Qt work is in other preparation PPA:s | 12:29 |
| bzoltan | Ohh | 12:29 |
| bzoltan | dpm, Mirv: the QtC plugin is new inthe PPA 2.8.1bzr57raring0 | 12:29 |
| bzoltan | dpm, Mirv: alex-abreu and Robert Bruce Park has top approved 2 MRs and they triggered the PPA release | 12:30 |
| dpm | bzoltan, ah, well spotted. So how can we fix this on the PPA and who can do it? | 12:31 |
| alex-abreu | bzoltan, oops ... ok for the cordova bit, but not sure why it triggers a removal of the ubuntu-sdk | 12:32 |
| bzoltan | alex-abreu: maybe because those cordova packages are listed as dependency of the ubuntu-sdk metapackage | 12:33 |
| bzoltan | Mirv ^ | 12:33 |
| alex-abreu | ah | 12:33 |
| Mirv | sounds like that, yes | 12:33 |
| alex-abreu | bzoltan, ok what about I push a "fix" for which I keep the cordova plugin ... | 12:35 |
| alex-abreu | it doesn't hurt to still have it around | 12:36 |
| alex-abreu | as long as we don't have the wizard | 12:36 |
| alex-abreu | and we can deprecate it properly | 12:37 |
| bzoltan | alex-abreu: or simple update the ubuntu-sdk | 12:37 |
| bzoltan | Mirv: you or me? | 12:37 |
| alex-abreu | yeah | 12:37 |
| alex-abreu | not sure how simple it would be | 12:37 |
| Mirv | bzoltan: my brain is too filled with Qt 5.2 at the moment, and I don't know the background that caused this change etc. freel free. | 12:39 |
| bzoltan | Mirv: got it | 12:39 |
| Mirv | thanks | 12:40 |
| dpm | thanks bzoltan for taking care of that | 12:41 |
| bzoltan | alex-abreu: if you check the dependencies of the ubuntu-sdk package you will see that it pulls the qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu-cordova package | 12:42 |
| alex-abreu | yup | 12:44 |
| alex-abreu | it does indeed | 12:44 |
| alex-abreu | bzoltan, it shouldn't have been top approved, & I should have check w/ u & Mirv for possible issues, ... next time ... | 12:45 |
| bzoltan | alex-abreu: Your name is on the MR as top approver | 12:47 |
| bzoltan | Status: Merged Approved by:Robert Bruce Park 9 hours ago | 12:48 |
| bzoltan | Status: Approved Approved by:Alexandre Abreu 4 minutes ago | 12:48 |
| bzoltan | alex-abreu: wait a sec... it is robru who top approved the other one | 12:49 |
| bzoltan | https://code.launchpad.net/~abreu-alexandre/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/single-html5-template/+merge/198390 | 12:49 |
| alex-abreu | yeah I top approved the template changes | 12:49 |
| alex-abreu | anyway | 12:49 |
| bzoltan | alex-abreu: but yours was rejected by Jenkins | 12:50 |
| alex-abreu | yup | 12:51 |
| alex-abreu | I pushed an update | 12:51 |
| alex-abreu | for that | 12:51 |
| alex-abreu | merging conflicts | 12:51 |
| lukas_ | Hello! | 13:08 |
| lukas_ | I'd like to know why should I use PyGI instead of PyGTK. Thanks | 13:09 |
| mzanetti | dpm: http://kmix5.wordpress.com/2013/12/11/eclipse-kepler-kmix-productivity-boost/ | 14:14 |
| mzanetti | dpm: check out the first bullet in "The C++ nuisance and rant" | 14:14 |
| mzanetti | :D | 14:14 |
| dpm | mzanetti, lol, indeed! | 14:29 |
| dholbach | dpm, do we have an example of a compiled app which doesn't use qmake? | 14:54 |
| dpm | dholbach, perhaps the camera app, which I think uses cmake | 14:55 |
| dholbach | aha! | 14:55 |
| Mihir | Hi dpm :) | 15:22 |
| dpm | hi Mihir, how are you? | 15:22 |
| Mihir | dpm: Doing good...busy now a days..how are you doing?? | 15:23 |
| dpm | doing well too, busy too :) | 15:23 |
| Mihir | have kicked off calculator second phase or I guess not yet right ?? | 15:25 |
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| mzanetti | jkeyes0: hey man, do you think you could review this one? lp:~mzanetti/reminders-app/rework-error-handling | 16:16 |
| balloons | nik90, ping | 16:23 |
| rickspencer3 | hi msvb-lab :) | 16:26 |
| msvb-lab | Hithere, good resource this channel... | 16:28 |
| msvb-lab | ...I just hope it sees some action. Thanks again for the call, and have a great weekend. | 16:28 |
| rickspencer3 | thank you msvb-lab | 16:28 |
| * balloons waves to rickspencer3 and msvb-lab | 16:28 | |
| rickspencer3 | o/ balloons | 16:29 |
| msvb-lab | Waves back. | 16:29 |
| msvb-lab | Balloons: How much do you know about the 'format switch variable' or whatever it is to set the initial format of an app to fullscreen or thin-phone? | 16:30 |
| msvb-lab | The terminal app for tablets launches wrong, goes to phone mode. So that's what I'm trying to change. | 16:30 |
| msvb-lab | ...unless you like tilting your head and typing sideways with one hand. Super suckey. | 16:30 |
| balloons | msvb-lab, ahh.. File manager is a good example of how it works. It converges quite well | 16:31 |
| balloons | it uses a "wide display" switch and turns it on based on the screen units present on the device | 16:31 |
| msvb-lab | The file manager of Maguro (tablet) on trusty-proposed starts in phone mode as well (like the terminal.) | 16:31 |
| balloons | maguro tablet? | 16:32 |
| rickspencer3 | msvb-lab, I believe maguro is the code name for the galaxy nexus phone, though I could be wrong | 16:33 |
| rickspencer3 | maybe you mean Manta? (Nexus 10) | 16:33 |
| balloons | last I checked on the manta, file manager was tablet mode ;-) | 16:33 |
| nik90 | balloons: pong | 16:42 |
| balloons | nik90, I saw your comment on the mp :-) It was so funny I sent the comment, and boom, update in trunk from nik90 | 16:43 |
| balloons | jenkins is coming back online atm, I'll review as well and we'll land this ;-) | 16:43 |
| nik90 | balloons: awesome | 16:43 |
| nik90 | balloons: one thing though | 16:44 |
| balloons | nik90, I'm sending a mail on all those open ap tests that are awaiting features.. The only other bug is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1188808 | 16:44 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1188808 in Ubuntu Clock App "Autopilot Testcase needed: Check current time" [Medium,Confirmed] | 16:44 |
| nik90 | balloons: the bug you mentioned, is dependent on what time format is shown to the user in the clock app. This has not been confirmed yet by design. | 16:45 |
| balloons | care to just update the bug with a status update I guess? | 16:46 |
| nik90 | btw regarding my stopwatch MP, it adds a test -> Test searching a world city online and adding it (clock) | 16:46 |
| nik90 | sure | 16:46 |
| nik90 | I thought in the UDS, it was explained during the QA session that an autopilot test should not send online API calls? | 16:46 |
| nik90 | this test does it thought (in my defence I wrote it before the UDS :D ) | 16:47 |
| nik90 | balloons: the bug report already has a comment explaining the blocker -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1188808/comments/4 | 16:48 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1188808 in Ubuntu Clock App "Autopilot Testcase needed: Check current time" [Medium,Confirmed] | 16:48 |
| balloons | nik90, I guess I don't want the bug to stagnate forever. So if we need design's input, let's get it on there todo list so to speak :-) | 16:50 |
| nik90 | balloons: but we dont get designer's input anymore to the core apps for this cycle | 16:51 |
| balloons | heh, well, we need to solve it somehow ;-) | 16:51 |
| balloons | I don't like stagnating bugs | 16:51 |
| nik90 | nik90: either we have an option in the settings app which defines if time will be shown in 24 hour format | 16:51 |
| balloons | I'm sure you don't either | 16:52 |
| nik90 | yup | 16:52 |
| nik90 | I will send a mail to ubuntu-touch list asking if such an option can be integrated into the settings app | 16:52 |
| nik90 | since the rule has to come from somewhere | 16:52 |
| balloons | thanks nik90 | 16:54 |
| balloons | We'll at least be able to update some status on it | 16:55 |
| iBelieve | davmor2: ping | 17:04 |
| davmor2 | iBelieve: hello | 17:04 |
| iBelieve | davmor2: Hi. My app, Tasks, that you reviewed yesterday, isn't working for somebody, and I think that is caused by the packaging. Is there any way for me to get the actual package without having to buy the app myself? | 17:05 |
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| davmor2 | iBelieve: you can change the price to zero install it and raise the price again other than that not really. | 17:06 |
| davmor2 | iBelieve: do you know what issue they are having? | 17:07 |
| iBelieve | davmor2: This is what the user reported seeing: http://i.imgur.com/KMuoDet.jpg | 17:08 |
| iBelieve | davmor2: It has to be a problem with the packaging, since running the app from the source tar that I uploaded works fine. | 17:09 |
| davmor2 | iBelieve: it is working fine here, http://ubuntuone.com/2ODSsYFcIEgAiZawCytHVk | 17:10 |
| iBelieve | davmor2: Not quite. The icons on the toolbar buttons at the bottom are missing. | 17:12 |
| iBelieve | davmor2: I think I'll just end up purchasing it myself to look at how it is installed. | 17:13 |
| iBelieve | davmor2: Once I figure out what the problem is, what is the best and fastest way to get an update into the app store or have the packaging be changed? | 17:13 |
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| davmor2 | iBelieve: through myapps just click on your app, click on edit by the package details and upload a new package. If it is something specific with the packaging then message us on the feedback tab and we can deal with it from there. | 17:16 |
| balloons | nik90, re: online accounts. Yes, we don't want tests to depend on external servers. So we should mock it instead | 17:43 |
| davmor2 | balloons: you're an evil non existent analogue account that no-one ever uses why can't you be more like this nice accout that is digital and always there.........is that enough mocking? | 17:55 |
| balloons | davmor2, :-) | 17:56 |
| iBelieve | davmor2: I uploaded a new version and also left comments regarding problems in the packaging. Do you know when I can expect it to be reviewed and the packaging fixed? | 18:25 |
| davmor2 | iBelieve: depends how long it takes to package | 18:57 |
| iBelieve | davmor2: thanks for the answer. The packaging was just missing the icons directory I had in my tar ball, and then I uploaded a couple of changes to work with 13.10 better. | 18:58 |
| davmor2 | cool | 18:58 |
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| lukas | Hello! | 19:31 |
| lukas | Im making an indicator for ubuntu 13.10 | 19:31 |
| lukas | Id like to find documentation on how to implement counter | 19:31 |
| lukas | like the one uses emapthy in messasing menu | 19:31 |
| lukas | thanks in advance! | 19:32 |
| daker | lukas: see https://launchpad.net/hello-unity | 19:33 |
| lukas | thanks | 19:34 |
| daker | lukas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wiyL2jqfWc&feature=youtu.be | 19:34 |
| lukas | exactly what ive been looking for. THAAAANKS!!!! <333 | 19:36 |
| daker | :) | 19:39 |
| lukas | I've encountered a problem: in hello_unity/window.py error: from gi.repository import GtkSource, ImportError: cannot import name GtkSource | 19:44 |
| lukas | apparently cannot use app from source (tar.gz file) | 19:47 |
| lukas | but deb launched fine | 19:48 |
| daker | i think you were missing some deps and the deb did install the missing package | 19:56 |
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