| BobJonkman | Hey, who's coming to Ubuntu Hour Toronto tomorrow? | 18:22 |
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| genii | If anyone sees Aruna, let him know I'll be there tomorrow ( although I just also fired off a confirmation to the mailing list ) | 20:31 |
| === genii_ is now known as genii | ||
| BobJonkman | Yay genii! | 21:04 |
| BobJonkman | You'll be able to slide over an honest-to-goodness, atoms-and-molecules coffee! | 21:04 |
| genii | BobJonkman: Hah, hellos! Are you coming down for this? | 21:04 |
| BobJonkman | Yup! Trekking through to snow to the big smoke | 21:05 |
| BobJonkman | did you register on the LoCo portal? | 21:05 |
| genii | Cool. I have an Ukranian fellow I met recently who is pretty gung-ho and wants to come.... No, didn't register yet, probably should... | 21:05 |
| BobJonkman | So just based on promises alone, this looks to be pretty successful | 21:06 |
| genii | OK, signed up there now :) | 21:09 |
| genii | Including you +2, me +1 and Aruna, we should have at least 6.... | 21:10 |
| BobJonkman | azend said something about coming too | 21:11 |
| BobJonkman | I'm offering a ride. Hey, azend, you there? | 21:11 |
| azend | helloo | 21:12 |
| azend | Was it this saturday or sunday? | 21:12 |
| BobJonkman | Saturday, tomorrow | 21:12 |
| genii | Saturday, 2pm | 21:12 |
| BobJonkman | 2:00pm, | 21:12 |
| BobJonkman | I'm leaving here at noon, be in Guelph about noon:30 | 21:12 |
| BobJonkman | We (me, Laurel, slayah) are planning to getting dinner in TO | 21:13 |
| BobJonkman | Hopefully to be accompanied by Ubuntoids | 21:13 |
| azend | Sounds like fun | 21:13 |
| azend | Let me double check with my parents | 21:14 |
| BobJonkman | Make them come too | 21:14 |
| genii | Hehe | 21:14 |
| azend | Just in case my parents have decided it's time to see the grandparents again | 21:14 |
| azend | BobJonkman: hehe | 21:14 |
| azend | So my mother is thinking about learning SQL | 21:15 |
| azend | Any Oracle DBAs around? :) | 21:15 |
| BobJonkman | You'll want an IBMmer. DB2 rulez | 21:16 |
| azend | :P | 21:18 |
| azend | I've done a good amount of database stuff but I've never touched oracle | 21:19 |
| BobJonkman | SQL is independent of Oracle. Lots of DBs use SQL, even MS-Access | 21:19 |
| azend | Yes, SQL is just a spec | 21:20 |
| azend | The problem is that nobody follows the spec properly | 21:20 |
| azend | So every rdbms works a little bit differently | 21:20 |
| BobJonkman | I believe IBM invented SQL for DB2, before Larry Ellison was even born | 21:21 |
| BobJonkman | OK, maybe not. Wikipedia sez Ellison b.1944, DB2 released 1983 | 21:22 |
| BobJonkman | That seems too recent to me. | 21:22 |
| azend | DB2 is ten years older than I am >_> | 21:22 |
| BobJonkman | SQL developed at IBM for their RBase system in 1970. That's a better timeframe | 21:23 |
| genii | I just sent off invites to about 10-12 people so I guess we'll see if any show. | 21:24 |
| BobJonkman | Oops. /me confuses R:BASE with IBM's System R | 21:24 |
| azend | genii: Will you judge me if I bring a mac :P | 21:27 |
| genii | azend: Of course, but gently! | 21:28 |
| azend | I should bring a live usb with arch on it and set it up on my netbook while I"m there | 21:28 |
| azend | I just installed a new hyperx ssd in my netbook but haven't gotten the chance to install an os yet | 21:28 |
| genii | azend: Actually, I try not to get judgemental about what hardware or OS people prefer, it's what works best for them that is the main thing. | 21:29 |
| azend | That's cool | 21:32 |
| BobJonkman | Apple HW is lovely. I'd be happy with it, as long as I can use the SW (and OS) I want | 21:33 |
| azend | Yeah, the hw is pretty nice | 21:33 |
| azend | I'm still disgusted with the software though :) | 21:34 |
| BobJonkman | azend: Does your mac have two drive bays? | 21:35 |
| azend | like disk or hard drive? | 21:35 |
| BobJonkman | Yup | 21:36 |
| azend | I have no optical disk tray | 21:36 |
| azend | I basically have no hard disk tray | 21:37 |
| azend | It's a custom ssd that is specially mounted | 21:37 |
| BobJonkman | My current laptop has only one 3.5" SATA drive bay, and something it calls a Removable Upgrade Bay (that's DVD to you and me) | 21:37 |
| azend | cool | 21:37 |
| genii | If anyone likes old Macs I have two Molar Mac AIO free to a good home | 21:37 |
| BobJonkman | genii Post it on the list, or ping FreeGeek | 21:38 |
| genii | Okeley Dokely :) | 21:38 |
| azend | genii: I think I know some people who would take you up on that just for the history of it | 21:38 |
| genii | azend: They are currently running Some older MacOS, I think 7.5 or maybe 8.1, was going to tinker with Yellow Dog Linux on them but never got around to it | 21:39 |
| samthetechie | o/ | 21:42 |
| BobJonkman | Just invited the folks on irc://oftc.net/#cryptoparty | 21:44 |
| BobJonkman | Hi samthetechie! | 21:44 |
| BobJonkman | aruna has a new GnuPG key, so we're going to be holding an informal keysigning | 21:45 |
| BobJonkman | Bring along your fingerprint strips! | 21:45 |
| * genii ponders monkeyspheres | 21:46 | |
| BobJonkman | I use gpg-key2ps from http://pgp-tools.alioth.debian.org to print fingerprint strips | 21:46 |
| samthetechie | hehe have you seen: http://web.monkeysphere.info/monkeysign/ | 21:46 |
| BobJonkman | Monkeysign looks cool! | 21:47 |
| genii | samthetechie: Yes, I have been looking at alternate key/cert trust systems lately, actually. Some of the guys I'm working on little projects with are Symantec-haters | 21:48 |
| genii | ( so that includes pgp.com and verisign, they own both now ) | 21:49 |
| BobJonkman | But GnuPG is independent of Symantec, isn't it? | 21:51 |
| BobJonkman | Same keyspace/WoT as PGP, but entirely different software | 21:52 |
| genii | Yes, GnuPG is an open source implementation of OpenPGP standard | 21:53 |
| genii | ( whereas the Symantec PGP products are commercial ) | 21:53 |
| * BobJonkman didn't realize PGP had been acquired by Symantec. | 21:55 | |
| BobJonkman | I knew it had been part of McAfee, and re-gained independence | 21:55 |
| genii | BobJonkman: Yeah, and then they got real pissy about pulling formerly free downloads of the PGP software and going after anyone who still offered them | 21:57 |
| BobJonkman | Didn't know that. /me has been in the Free Software world too long :) | 21:59 |
| * genii shakes a fist in the general direction of Symantec HQ | 22:06 | |
| BobJonkman | Hi aruna_ | 23:42 |
| BobJonkman | Looks like there will be good turnout for Ubuntu Hour Toronto | 23:43 |
| azend | BobJonkman: do I have your phone number? | 23:46 |
| BobJonkman | +1-519-635-9413 | 23:46 |
| azend | You could have PMed me it :) | 23:46 |
| BobJonkman | I grabbed yours from the Interwebs | 23:46 |
| azend | Yeah, I'm pretty easily findable | 23:46 |
| azend | Which one did you find? | 23:47 |
| BobJonkman | Sure I could have PMd it, but now people will call me and offer me work :) | 23:47 |
| BobJonkman | I found it on azend.org | 23:47 |
| azend | yeah, I think that one is old | 23:48 |
| azend | You're better off trying +1-226-606-5050 | 23:48 |
| BobJonkman | OK, I'll put that in my phone. | 23:48 |
| azend | The one on azend.org is my Rogers phone | 23:48 |
| azend | the one I just gave you is my WIND setup | 23:49 |
| azend | BobJonkman: Is the job pool still running dry? | 23:49 |
| BobJonkman | Little jobs, nothing sustainable. | 23:49 |
| azend | Ah, that sucks | 23:50 |
| azend | What are you looking for? | 23:50 |
| BobJonkman | Just did a WordPress recovery (DB hacking), but I'll take anything from network cabling to sysadmin to teaching | 23:51 |
| azend | Are you willing to make the TO commute? | 23:52 |
| BobJonkman | Yup. | 23:52 |
| azend | Hmm. | 23:52 |
| BobJonkman | Did that for years, 'til I got a contract in Mississauga. | 23:52 |
| azend | I'll see what I can do :) | 23:52 |
| BobJonkman | That'd be great! | 23:52 |
| BobJonkman | So, you in for Ubuntu Hour tomorrow? | 23:53 |
| azend | If I'm awake, yes | 23:54 |
| azend | I basically haven't slept in the last week and a half | 23:54 |
| azend | School is crazy right now | 23:54 |
| BobJonkman | :) Yes, that's a prerequisite for me driving, too | 23:54 |
| BobJonkman | Exams, I'll bet | 23:54 |
| azend | exams are the easy part | 23:54 |
| azend | My program works us 80 hours a week average | 23:55 |
| BobJonkman | Coop terms? | 23:55 |
| azend | and for some reason our professors decided it would be a good idea to base 55% of the mark on one of our classes on deliverables due the last week of class | 23:55 |
| azend | deliverables you're only expected to have at most a week to complete | 23:56 |
| azend | BobJonkman: no, that's regular class | 23:56 |
| BobJonkman | Wow. | 23:56 |
| BobJonkman | Two-year program? | 23:56 |
| azend | Why do you think I feel so terrible about dropping the ball on Ubuntu Guelph events | 23:57 |
| azend | no | 23:57 |
| azend | three year | 23:57 |
| BobJonkman | You should pass the baton to John Kerr, who might run with it | 23:57 |
| azend | I was thinking about it | 23:57 |
| BobJonkman | Just post to the Guelph list that you're swamped, and would like someone else to host | 23:58 |
| azend | Does he come on the IRC much? | 23:58 |
| BobJonkman | No, not often. He's on Google+ a lot though | 23:58 |
| azend | I bumped into his profile on LinkedIn the other day | 23:58 |
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