[18:22] Hey, who's coming to Ubuntu Hour Toronto tomorrow? [20:31] If anyone sees Aruna, let him know I'll be there tomorrow ( although I just also fired off a confirmation to the mailing list ) === genii_ is now known as genii [21:04] Yay genii! [21:04] You'll be able to slide over an honest-to-goodness, atoms-and-molecules coffee! [21:04] BobJonkman: Hah, hellos! Are you coming down for this? [21:05] Yup! Trekking through to snow to the big smoke [21:05] did you register on the LoCo portal? [21:05] Cool. I have an Ukranian fellow I met recently who is pretty gung-ho and wants to come.... No, didn't register yet, probably should... [21:06] So just based on promises alone, this looks to be pretty successful [21:09] OK, signed up there now :) [21:10] Including you +2, me +1 and Aruna, we should have at least 6.... [21:11] azend said something about coming too [21:11] I'm offering a ride. Hey, azend, you there? [21:12] helloo [21:12] Was it this saturday or sunday? [21:12] Saturday, tomorrow [21:12] Saturday, 2pm [21:12] 2:00pm, [21:12] I'm leaving here at noon, be in Guelph about noon:30 [21:13] We (me, Laurel, slayah) are planning to getting dinner in TO [21:13] Hopefully to be accompanied by Ubuntoids [21:13] Sounds like fun [21:14] Let me double check with my parents [21:14] Make them come too [21:14] Hehe [21:14] Just in case my parents have decided it's time to see the grandparents again [21:14] BobJonkman: hehe [21:15] So my mother is thinking about learning SQL [21:15] Any Oracle DBAs around? :) [21:16] You'll want an IBMmer. DB2 rulez [21:18] :P [21:19] I've done a good amount of database stuff but I've never touched oracle [21:19] SQL is independent of Oracle. Lots of DBs use SQL, even MS-Access [21:20] Yes, SQL is just a spec [21:20] The problem is that nobody follows the spec properly [21:20] So every rdbms works a little bit differently [21:21] I believe IBM invented SQL for DB2, before Larry Ellison was even born [21:22] OK, maybe not. Wikipedia sez Ellison b.1944, DB2 released 1983 [21:22] That seems too recent to me. [21:22] DB2 is ten years older than I am >_> [21:23] SQL developed at IBM for their RBase system in 1970. That's a better timeframe [21:24] I just sent off invites to about 10-12 people so I guess we'll see if any show. [21:24] Oops. /me confuses R:BASE with IBM's System R [21:27] genii: Will you judge me if I bring a mac :P [21:28] azend: Of course, but gently! [21:28] I should bring a live usb with arch on it and set it up on my netbook while I"m there [21:28] I just installed a new hyperx ssd in my netbook but haven't gotten the chance to install an os yet [21:29] azend: Actually, I try not to get judgemental about what hardware or OS people prefer, it's what works best for them that is the main thing. [21:32] That's cool [21:33] Apple HW is lovely. I'd be happy with it, as long as I can use the SW (and OS) I want [21:33] Yeah, the hw is pretty nice [21:34] I'm still disgusted with the software though :) [21:35] azend: Does your mac have two drive bays? [21:35] like disk or hard drive? [21:36] Yup [21:36] I have no optical disk tray [21:37] I basically have no hard disk tray [21:37] It's a custom ssd that is specially mounted [21:37] My current laptop has only one 3.5" SATA drive bay, and something it calls a Removable Upgrade Bay (that's DVD to you and me) [21:37] cool [21:37] If anyone likes old Macs I have two Molar Mac AIO free to a good home [21:38] genii Post it on the list, or ping FreeGeek [21:38] Okeley Dokely :) [21:38] genii: I think I know some people who would take you up on that just for the history of it [21:39] azend: They are currently running Some older MacOS, I think 7.5 or maybe 8.1, was going to tinker with Yellow Dog Linux on them but never got around to it [21:42] o/ [21:44] Just invited the folks on irc://oftc.net/#cryptoparty [21:44] Hi samthetechie! [21:45] aruna has a new GnuPG key, so we're going to be holding an informal keysigning [21:45] Bring along your fingerprint strips! [21:46] * genii ponders monkeyspheres [21:46] I use gpg-key2ps from http://pgp-tools.alioth.debian.org to print fingerprint strips [21:46] hehe have you seen: http://web.monkeysphere.info/monkeysign/ [21:47] Monkeysign looks cool! [21:48] samthetechie: Yes, I have been looking at alternate key/cert trust systems lately, actually. Some of the guys I'm working on little projects with are Symantec-haters [21:49] ( so that includes pgp.com and verisign, they own both now ) [21:51] But GnuPG is independent of Symantec, isn't it? [21:52] Same keyspace/WoT as PGP, but entirely different software [21:53] Yes, GnuPG is an open source implementation of OpenPGP standard [21:53] ( whereas the Symantec PGP products are commercial ) [21:55] * BobJonkman didn't realize PGP had been acquired by Symantec. [21:55] I knew it had been part of McAfee, and re-gained independence [21:57] BobJonkman: Yeah, and then they got real pissy about pulling formerly free downloads of the PGP software and going after anyone who still offered them [21:59] Didn't know that. /me has been in the Free Software world too long :) [22:06] * genii shakes a fist in the general direction of Symantec HQ [23:42] Hi aruna_ [23:43] Looks like there will be good turnout for Ubuntu Hour Toronto [23:46] BobJonkman: do I have your phone number? [23:46] +1-519-635-9413 [23:46] You could have PMed me it :) [23:46] I grabbed yours from the Interwebs [23:46] Yeah, I'm pretty easily findable [23:47] Which one did you find? [23:47] Sure I could have PMd it, but now people will call me and offer me work :) [23:47] I found it on azend.org [23:48] yeah, I think that one is old [23:48] You're better off trying +1-226-606-5050 [23:48] OK, I'll put that in my phone. [23:48] The one on azend.org is my Rogers phone [23:49] the one I just gave you is my WIND setup [23:49] BobJonkman: Is the job pool still running dry? [23:49] Little jobs, nothing sustainable. [23:50] Ah, that sucks [23:50] What are you looking for? [23:51] Just did a WordPress recovery (DB hacking), but I'll take anything from network cabling to sysadmin to teaching [23:52] Are you willing to make the TO commute? [23:52] Yup. [23:52] Hmm. [23:52] Did that for years, 'til I got a contract in Mississauga. [23:52] I'll see what I can do :) [23:52] That'd be great! [23:53] So, you in for Ubuntu Hour tomorrow? [23:54] If I'm awake, yes [23:54] I basically haven't slept in the last week and a half [23:54] School is crazy right now [23:54] :) Yes, that's a prerequisite for me driving, too [23:54] Exams, I'll bet [23:54] exams are the easy part [23:55] My program works us 80 hours a week average [23:55] Coop terms? [23:55] and for some reason our professors decided it would be a good idea to base 55% of the mark on one of our classes on deliverables due the last week of class [23:56] deliverables you're only expected to have at most a week to complete [23:56] BobJonkman: no, that's regular class [23:56] Wow. [23:56] Two-year program? [23:57] Why do you think I feel so terrible about dropping the ball on Ubuntu Guelph events [23:57] no [23:57] three year [23:57] You should pass the baton to John Kerr, who might run with it [23:57] I was thinking about it [23:58] Just post to the Guelph list that you're swamped, and would like someone else to host [23:58] Does he come on the IRC much? [23:58] No, not often. He's on Google+ a lot though [23:58] I bumped into his profile on LinkedIn the other day