| Kilos | morning all | 05:07 |
|---|---|---|
| klaasvakie | nogsteeds by die werk :( | 06:00 |
| Kilos | ai! het jy nie geslaap nie? | 06:01 |
| klaasvakie | so twee ure op die kantoor se vloer | 06:01 |
| Kilos | eina. waar werk jy? | 06:02 |
| Kilos | en het jy darem koffie om jou aan die gang te hou | 06:02 |
| klaasvakie | Embedded IQ, ons is 'n klein outfit, net ses mense so partykeer moet jy maar inspring | 06:02 |
| klaasvakie | baie koffie ja | 06:02 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 06:03 |
| klaasvakie | die ander rede is dat ek nie eintlik volgende week wil terugkom werk toe nie, so beter as ek vandag alles kan klaarkry | 06:04 |
| Kilos | veels geluk | 06:05 |
| Kilos | in jhb? | 06:05 |
| klaasvakie | ja, northcliff | 06:05 |
| Kilos | ah | 06:05 |
| klaasvakie | jy? | 06:05 |
| Kilos | ek is n ou ballie | 06:05 |
| Kilos | lekker gelag toe jy se boetman | 06:06 |
| klaasvakie | haha | 06:06 |
| Kilos | semi disabled, en bly op n plot by my sus en haar man | 06:06 |
| Kilos | my job is to be the greeter bot here | 06:07 |
| klaasvakie | ek het nog kontak met so paar pelle wat saam my geswot het, die "naandsê boetman" groet kom van daardie dae af | 06:08 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 06:08 |
| Kilos | gebruik julle darem linux? | 06:08 |
| klaasvakie | ja, ons is 'n volledige linux shop | 06:09 |
| Kilos | mooi man | 06:09 |
| Kilos | ohi superfly | 06:09 |
| klaasvakie | ons het so een of twee windows lisensies vir spesiale sagteware, maar omtrent almal is op linux | 06:09 |
| klaasvakie | ons groter embedded produkte ship ook met linux (Angstrom) | 06:10 |
| Kilos | dis grand. daar is altyd nog plekke waar vensters nodig is | 06:10 |
| klaasvakie | ons PCB-layout sagteware het windows nodig, daar is nie goeie alternatiewe nie | 06:11 |
| Kilos | sagteware produkte? | 06:11 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 06:11 |
| klaasvakie | hardeware | 06:11 |
| Kilos | aha | 06:11 |
| superfly | oh yes, the PCB design stuff we use is also mostly Windows-only | 06:11 |
| superfly | klaasvakie: what do you use? | 06:12 |
| klaasvakie | a bunch of the stuff in the Mentor Graphics suite, DX for schematic capture and PADS for layout | 06:12 |
| superfly | Not too sure what we use, we actually outsourced it the last time | 06:13 |
| superfly | they used some really fancy software, and the board looks AMAZING compared to our older boards | 06:13 |
| klaasvakie | eish guys, my coffee shes done --- back to the salt mines | 06:13 |
| superfly | I haven't even gotten my c0ffee yet | 06:14 |
| Kilos | very busy as well superfly ? | 06:15 |
| Kilos | bad time of the year hey | 06:15 |
| superfly | Kilos: always busy | 06:15 |
| Kilos | sjoe, i was thinking of installing windows me to play red alert 1 again | 06:16 |
| Kilos | no more crashes with any of my ubuntu drives | 06:17 |
| superfly | Kilos: can't you get it working in WINE or DOSbox? | 06:17 |
| Kilos | im kinda scared of wine. crashed me a coupla times, but maybe that was also because of the psu probs | 06:18 |
| Kilos | ill have another look though | 06:19 |
| superfly | that's your hardware, I've never had a crash | 06:19 |
| Kilos | might be the mobos, but running with external psu solved all the probs | 06:20 |
| Kilos | main psu to mobo and dvd and external psu to drives | 06:21 |
| Kilos | hi ThatGraemeGuy | 06:21 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | morning :-) | 06:23 |
| superfly | yo ThatGraemeGuy! | 06:34 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | 'ello :-) | 06:34 |
| Kilos | hi mazal | 06:43 |
| mazal | More oom | 06:43 |
| Kilos | hi Vince-0 | 07:14 |
| Vince-0 | Hi! | 07:14 |
| Vince-0 | I am 28 today! | 07:42 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | happy friday the 13th/birthday | 07:46 |
| Kilos | happy birthday Vince-0 may every year just get better and better | 07:48 |
| Kilos | rynofear, whats with the fear bit? | 07:49 |
| Vince-0 | fanks | 07:50 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | http://mybroadband.co.za/news/government/93659-delphi-ms-office-sa-schools-exclusive-reversed.html | 08:17 |
| mazal | Nice , that's something at least | 08:43 |
| Kilos | slowly but surely | 08:43 |
| Kilos | sigh, power cut again | 08:59 |
| Kilos | hi psyatw | 09:08 |
| psyatw | hi Kilos | 09:09 |
| psyatw | hi rynofear | 09:09 |
| Kilos | hi nlsthzn | 09:11 |
| nlsthzn | alo uncle Kilos | 09:12 |
| * nlsthzn has found a gfx card to go with the mobo/cpu/ram :) | 09:12 | |
| nlsthzn | just need a better box with the mobo and we are good to go | 09:12 |
| nlsthzn | *for the mobo | 09:12 |
| psyatw | hi nlsthzn | 09:12 |
| nlsthzn | alo psyatw | 09:12 |
| psyatw | an old voodoo card? :) | 09:13 |
| nlsthzn | lol, not that old | 09:13 |
| psyatw | haha | 09:13 |
| nlsthzn | actually recent but not up to scratch for serious gaming | 09:13 |
| nlsthzn | radeon hd 5450 (or something like that) | 09:13 |
| psyatw | do they still get obsolete that fast? | 09:13 |
| psyatw | oh, I see | 09:13 |
| Kilos | thats cool nlsthzn | 09:13 |
| nlsthzn | this is a low end of the spectrum card | 09:13 |
| nlsthzn | but it does have 2gb ram on it | 09:13 |
| nlsthzn | more than my obsolete gaming card :p | 09:14 |
| psyatw | yeah :D | 09:14 |
| nlsthzn | and 4gb of ram not so bad ... it is fast ddr2-800 or something | 09:14 |
| psyatw | I think all my cards in the Netherlands don´t have more than 256 or 512 MB | 09:15 |
| * Kilos looking forward to having a fast pc | 09:15 | |
| psyatw | but when I bring my desktop here to Poland, I´ll probably get a good recent one | 09:15 |
| nlsthzn | mine got 512mb and it suffering for it | 09:15 |
| psyatw | http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107.html | 09:16 |
| Kilos | ram is so important hey? | 09:16 |
| Kilos | nlsthzn, where you gonna find a flat box like that up there | 09:17 |
| Kilos | \maybe a pizza box | 09:17 |
| nlsthzn | dunno, waiting for the pc shop to open, I asked them an old mobo box | 09:19 |
| psyatw | yes, it is | 09:19 |
| psyatw | I would say RAM is more important that processing power these days | 09:20 |
| Kilos | haha i remeber upgrading my old 486 from 20m to 40meg ram | 09:21 |
| Kilos | wasnt place for any more | 09:22 |
| nlsthzn | I can remember our PC's first upgrade, went from base ram to 4mb extended :p | 09:24 |
| nlsthzn | it was amazing | 09:25 |
| Kilos | yeah its all about ram | 09:25 |
| Kilos | swap helps but ram is king | 09:25 |
| nlsthzn | then again, I have not seen me ever needing more more than 8gb ram... but I don't encode a lot of audio/video and graphics work | 09:26 |
| Kilos | my existing gfx card here has 64m ram | 09:27 |
| Kilos | other pc has 32m | 09:27 |
| Kilos | im gonna be in heaven | 09:28 |
| psyatw | wow, those were the times :P | 09:28 |
| Kilos | i been very lucky though. good peeps like nlsthzn and other angry peeps have got me where i am | 09:29 |
| psyatw | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/arm64/lsb-desktop | 09:30 |
| psyatw | I´m looking forward to hardware for running that | 09:30 |
| psyatw | we are always here to help you | 09:30 |
| Kilos | ty. its been a wonderful experience for me | 09:31 |
| Kilos | haha the pc im using was thrown out a window from the first floor inna flat because the chick wasnt happy with her bf watching porn | 09:32 |
| Kilos | so i scored | 09:32 |
| Kilos | life is lekker | 09:33 |
| mazal | lol | 09:37 |
| mazal | That will teach him | 09:38 |
| Kilos | rofl ya it did | 09:38 |
| Kilos | now hes not allowed a pc | 09:38 |
| mazal | Must say , if my gf ever does that it will be the last time she enters my home. But then again , I won't ever give her reason to do that | 09:39 |
| nlsthzn | np uncle Kilos | 09:40 |
| nlsthzn | as long as it is put to use I am happy | 09:41 |
| nlsthzn | and I hope it is a step up in any case | 09:41 |
| Kilos | yeah nlsthzn major step up | 09:55 |
| nlsthzn | sweet | 09:56 |
| nlsthzn | if there is a room I will send the aftermarket cooler I was using on the CPU but I don't think there will be and it is just heavy and not that great... | 09:57 |
| nlsthzn | that will be one important thing to get is a good cooler... these chips run hot :/ | 09:57 |
| Kilos | im dunno these things but maybe i can use this one | 09:58 |
| Kilos | hasnt every mobo got different mounting methods | 09:58 |
| Kilos | theres always cable ties | 09:59 |
| nlsthzn | best would be to get one specific for the CPU range - they need to be tightened really well with just the right amount of thermal paste... | 10:02 |
| nlsthzn | I am sure they can't be that difficult to source second hand | 10:02 |
| Kilos | ok will get the info when i see what it is | 10:02 |
| nlsthzn | the CPU is already lapped for even better contact etc... | 10:03 |
| Kilos | and i got proper paste too | 10:03 |
| Kilos | hehe | 10:03 |
| Kilos | used toothpaste on the 486 | 10:03 |
| nlsthzn | >.< | 10:05 |
| Squirm | afternoon | 10:21 |
| Squirm | Kilos: toothpaste? really? | 10:22 |
| Kilos | hi Squirm last day? | 10:22 |
| Kilos | yeah i heard that from a guy that did pc repairs and upgrades | 10:22 |
| Squirm | :/ | 10:22 |
| Kilos | musta worked because i never blew a cpu | 10:22 |
| Squirm | I didn't know toothpaste was a thermal conductor | 10:22 |
| Kilos | i didnt even know about thermal conductors back then | 10:23 |
| Squirm | you don't always need thermal paste, especially if you're not running any CPU intensive applications | 10:23 |
| Squirm | it'll just run maybe a little hotter | 10:23 |
| Kilos | im not gonna take any chances | 10:23 |
| Kilos | have the paste already | 10:24 |
| Kilos | my pcs must last many years | 10:24 |
| mazal | Toothpaste , wow , never knew that | 10:24 |
| Kilos | i wouldnt try it again now on a modern cpu | 10:31 |
| Kilos | i dont think the 486 was fast enough to generate much heat anyway | 10:32 |
| mazal | The ones I struggled with the most regarding heat was the AMD's in the P4 era. Cant remember what does AMD's were called | 10:33 |
| mazal | *those | 10:33 |
| Squirm | the toothpaste is probably slowly eating away at your CPU | 10:36 |
| Kilos | ill got check one day | 10:43 |
| inetpro | good morning | 11:09 |
| inetpro | oops sorry, afternoon | 11:09 |
| Kilos | hi inetpro | 11:18 |
| inetpro | hello Kilos | 11:19 |
| === rynofear is now known as rynomster | ||
| === rynofear is now known as rynomster | ||
| Kilos | ah not scared any more | 11:28 |
| inetpro | scared? | 11:31 |
| Kilos | rynofear | 11:35 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 12:52 |
| === rynofear is now known as rynomster | ||
| Squirm | 1 | 13:28 |
| Squirm | more | 13:28 |
| Squirm | hour | 13:28 |
| Squirm | then I have 3 weeks of being bored :/ | 13:29 |
| Kilos | lol | 14:05 |
| Kilos | no pc where you going Squirm ? | 14:18 |
| Squirm | yes | 14:19 |
| Squirm | but pc is boring | 14:20 |
| Kilos | come drink coffee when you bored | 14:20 |
| Kilos | maaz wont mind | 14:20 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Excuse me? | 14:20 |
| Kilos | Maaz, shup | 14:20 |
| Maaz | Shup yourself oh noisy one | 14:20 |
| kbmonkey | hallo!! | 14:36 |
| Kilos | hiya kbmonkey hows you? | 15:09 |
| Kilos | sorry was outside | 15:09 |
| Kilos | catching UV's | 15:09 |
| superfly | i would LOVE 3 weeks of just me and my pc. so much i could do. | 15:22 |
| oupateddie | I have messed up my libre office as well as open office. I removed libre and installed open but somehow I reinstalled libre on top of open. Now there are broken dependencies and I can not purge or remove anything. Any help | 16:02 |
| Kilos | hi oupateddie | 16:04 |
| oupateddie | hi Kiols | 16:04 |
| oupateddie | Kilos | 16:04 |
| Kilos | do you have synaptic installed | 16:05 |
| oupateddie | Nope it is 13.04 | 16:05 |
| Kilos | install it then look about removing open office | 16:05 |
| oupateddie | can I install synaptic in 13.04 | 16:05 |
| Kilos | yes im sure you can | 16:06 |
| Kilos | sudo apt-get install synaptic | 16:06 |
| oupateddie | But I can't install anythin now it does not allow it | 16:06 |
| oupateddie | says broken dependencies every time I try to install something | 16:06 |
| Kilos | what does it say? | 16:06 |
| Kilos | ah | 16:06 |
| Kilos | try | 16:06 |
| Kilos | sudo dpkg --configure -a | 16:07 |
| oupateddie | stand by | 16:07 |
| oupateddie | reply is dpkg error: libreoffice-cals dependency problems | 16:09 |
| oupateddie | sorry wait | 16:09 |
| Kilos | sudo apt-get -f install | 16:09 |
| Kilos | also install aptitude it sorts most if not all probs | 16:10 |
| Kilos | first thing i do is install aptitude | 16:10 |
| oupateddie | i'm trying to install aptitude but no lck, let me try again. I'm working on a laptop next to thei machine which is the problem | 16:11 |
| oupateddie | nope unmet dependencies | 16:11 |
| Kilos | doesnt apt-get -f install work either | 16:11 |
| oupateddie | nope | 16:11 |
| Kilos | wow | 16:12 |
| Kilos | try reboot and use recovery mode | 16:12 |
| oupateddie | I've gone through all how to's I could get but I'm stuck, looks like a clean install | 16:12 |
| oupateddie | have done that as well | 16:12 |
| oupateddie | no luck | 16:12 |
| Kilos | there must be a way | 16:12 |
| Kilos | superfly, ideas? | 16:12 |
| oupateddie | it gets a 404 error on one of the libreoffcie repsitories | 16:13 |
| Kilos | what repo you using | 16:13 |
| oupateddie | I am to blame as I reinstalled libre by accident on top of open | 16:13 |
| Kilos | what does update manager show | 16:13 |
| oupateddie | I now have two ppa's one for libre and one for open | 16:14 |
| Kilos | disable the open one | 16:14 |
| oupateddie | it comes back with a base update but then can't find the files to download | 16:14 |
| oupateddie | ok let me try | 16:14 |
| Kilos | that repo must be sick | 16:14 |
| Kilos | change repos | 16:14 |
| oupateddie | update mnan replies with a check internet connection | 16:16 |
| Kilos | aha | 16:16 |
| kbmonkey | good Kilos and you? | 16:16 |
| Kilos | good ty kbmonkey | 16:16 |
| Kilos | help here | 16:16 |
| Kilos | please | 16:16 |
| kbmonkey | send you some rain? | 16:17 |
| Kilos | no man with oupas prob | 16:17 |
| oupateddie | Hot and humid on the West Coast though | 16:17 |
| kbmonkey | hello oupateddie | 16:18 |
| Kilos | oupateddie, what repo are you using | 16:18 |
| oupateddie | Hi kbmonkey | 16:18 |
| kbmonkey | sure I can try and help if I can | 16:18 |
| oupateddie | let me just get there | 16:18 |
| kbmonkey | one step at a time :) | 16:19 |
| oupateddie | I have already unticked all the repos but it just keeps on crashing | 16:19 |
| Kilos | i know our repo that is in the install gave probs | 16:19 |
| Kilos | had to change to main to get things working again | 16:19 |
| oupateddie | I have changed to main now | 16:20 |
| Kilos | there is a command to use to change repos but i forgot what it is | 16:20 |
| kbmonkey | well, what are you trying to do oupateddie ? | 16:20 |
| Kilos | sudo apt-get update | 16:20 |
| kbmonkey | are you trying to update ubuntu? | 16:20 |
| Kilos | nope he has libre installed and open office | 16:21 |
| oupateddie | I removed libre office and installed open. The somehow I got Libre to reinstall and then it carshed | 16:21 |
| Kilos | does your update run now oupateddie | 16:21 |
| kbmonkey | hmm, okay. I might be able to help if we can the error message details | 16:21 |
| kbmonkey | do you now have both Libre and Open office installed oupateddie ? | 16:22 |
| kbmonkey | and which one would you like to keep? | 16:22 |
| oupateddie | At this stage open is running but I can't get NY UPDATES DONE | 16:22 |
| Kilos | actually try sudo rm libreoffice | 16:23 |
| kbmonkey | no don't try that! | 16:23 |
| Kilos | i think thats the command | 16:23 |
| Kilos | oh | 16:23 |
| oupateddie | I want to test Open instead of Libre as my client has to do work in Libre but has to be opens in MS Office 2007. Then there is a format problem | 16:23 |
| Kilos | ok ty take over kbmonkey | 16:23 |
| kbmonkey | dont sudo rm anything, eek | 16:23 |
| kbmonkey | lol | 16:23 |
| Kilos | he tried to purge it but it didnt work | 16:24 |
| oupateddie | I have changed to MAIN server and update man is busy .. lets see what comes up | 16:24 |
| kbmonkey | ok. So if I understand, you want to do updates to allow open office to support the new document formats? | 16:24 |
| Kilos | ya things will work now | 16:24 |
| Kilos | even the fly had probs with our repo | 16:25 |
| oupateddie | not just that, when there is an update it crashes due to an incomplete libre installation. I want to purge libre but can't | 16:25 |
| kbmonkey | ah okay, you have dependency problems | 16:26 |
| oupateddie | I'm chatting on my main machine and its on a laptop next to me | 16:26 |
| oupateddie | Now update man returns with failed to donwload repository and I don't know which one | 16:26 |
| kbmonkey | is it running the update in the graphical window? or is it in a terminal window with all the text? | 16:27 |
| oupateddie | both | 16:27 |
| oupateddie | I have tried both | 16:27 |
| oupateddie | It just seems as if I'll have to do a clean install perhaps | 16:27 |
| kbmonkey | oupateddie, can you open a terminal window and copy for us the output to pastebin.com please? | 16:28 |
| oupateddie | Let me see | 16:28 |
| Kilos | slexy.org kbmonkey | 16:28 |
| Kilos | pastebin sucks here | 16:28 |
| kbmonkey | run: "sudo apt-get update" | 16:28 |
| oupateddie | stand by | 16:29 |
| kbmonkey | then if you please oupateddie, open the file "/etc/apt/sources.list" and also paste that for us. | 16:30 |
| kbmonkey | that will show us what your updates are trying to download | 16:31 |
| oupateddie | Pastebin ID wtuWP3h8 | 16:31 |
| kbmonkey | thank you, I am now investigating... | 16:34 |
| oupateddie | Pastebin | 16:36 |
| kbmonkey | oupateddie, did you have to add the libre office repository yourself? | 16:36 |
| oupateddie | AKdRt2wn | 16:37 |
| oupateddie | I probably did that in error | 16:37 |
| kbmonkey | ok, I have an idea of what happened | 16:39 |
| kbmonkey | Ubuntu has libre office in their main repos | 16:40 |
| kbmonkey | you might have added the "testing" libre repos by mistake, mixing testing with main can cause these errrors | 16:40 |
| oupateddie | OK the how do I remove them | 16:41 |
| oupateddie | via the update man I presume | 16:41 |
| kbmonkey | you might need to uninstall that testing version of libre office first | 16:42 |
| oupateddie | OK how? | 16:42 |
| kbmonkey | then see in update man if you can find the libre repo to remove too | 16:42 |
| kbmonkey | hmmm, I am trying to find out how... | 16:43 |
| kbmonkey | I am not on ubuntu at the moment | 16:43 |
| oupateddie | Let me check | 16:43 |
| kbmonkey | Kilos, will know this better, where to find your repos list | 16:43 |
| Kilos | in synaptic | 16:43 |
| oupateddie | In the update ma it is therer | 16:44 |
| Kilos | i dunno where i have that command | 16:44 |
| Kilos | inetpro, ping | 16:44 |
| kbmonkey | is it there as the repo itself? | 16:44 |
| kbmonkey | in the gui Kilos ? | 16:44 |
| Kilos | look at settings | 16:44 |
| Kilos | bottom of update manager | 16:44 |
| oupateddie | yep I have removed it | 16:45 |
| Kilos | what does update man show needs updating? | 16:45 |
| kbmonkey | okay, and uninstalled the libre office suite too? | 16:46 |
| Kilos | tick on check | 16:46 |
| kbmonkey | yes, Kilos is right. click on check, it will download the list of applications. | 16:46 |
| oupateddie | I'm pasitng the sudo apt-get -f instaal now | 16:47 |
| kbmonkey | then you can search for libre office again and install it | 16:47 |
| kbmonkey | it now should use the main repos from Ubuntu | 16:47 |
| Kilos | also install synaptic and aptitude | 16:47 |
| oupateddie | Pastebin G1KWDJi3 | 16:48 |
| oupateddie | that's what it returns with sudo apt-get -f install | 16:48 |
| Kilos | hw do i get to that pastebin thing | 16:48 |
| oupateddie | It ran the apt-get update with no errors | 16:48 |
| Kilos | sudo dpkg --configure -a | 16:48 |
| Kilos | Your search - Pastebin G1KWDJi3 - did not match any documents. | 16:50 |
| Kilos | grrr | 16:50 |
| oupateddie | Let me redo | 16:50 |
| Kilos | oupateddie, use slexy.org | 16:50 |
| Kilos | http://slexy.org | 16:50 |
| Kilos | much faster than pastebin | 16:51 |
| oupateddie | www.pastebin.com/ixyZHpd | 16:51 |
| kbmonkey | it seems to still be using the testing version to install | 16:52 |
| Kilos | This paste has been removed! | 16:52 |
| kbmonkey | Kilos, are you on raring too? | 16:53 |
| Kilos | nope 12.04 | 16:53 |
| Kilos | short support not lekker for me | 16:53 |
| kbmonkey | ok, oupateddie I was wrong, it is using the main version. but there looks like a bug in the install script :( | 16:54 |
| kbmonkey | hang on let me search a little | 16:54 |
| oupateddie | slexy.org/view/s2Xefu3VLD | 16:54 |
| oupateddie | What I want to do is to remove libre and its files. I have Libre on this machine and want open on the other for testing purposes | 16:55 |
| kbmonkey | sudo apt-get purge libreoffice* | 16:56 |
| Kilos | try ap-get remove libreoffice | 16:56 |
| Kilos | hehe | 16:56 |
| oupateddie | niope unmet dependancies. | 16:56 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 16:57 |
| oupateddie | Don't worry I'll do a clean install, it's going to be just better. | 16:57 |
| oupateddie | ja sjoe die een het my | 16:57 |
| Kilos | then well never know what the prob was | 16:57 |
| oupateddie | well it will save more time | 16:58 |
| Kilos | before you reinstall do the sudo rm libreoffice* | 16:58 |
| kbmonkey | okay oupateddie, sorry we cant help at this time! | 16:58 |
| Kilos | this is frustrating | 16:58 |
| oupateddie | let me try that | 16:59 |
| Kilos | always install synaptic it has a fix broken button | 16:59 |
| kbmonkey | do you have a link to the steps you used to add the libre repo? | 16:59 |
| oupateddie | I'll have to check that | 16:59 |
| oupateddie | I just googled howto install open office in 13.04 and it gave me the answer, but I made a f-up. It worked but I reinstalled libre office on top o open thinking both would run | 17:00 |
| oupateddie | I'll jus reinstall quickly | 17:00 |
| oupateddie | thanks in any case | 17:01 |
| kbmonkey | next time just use the software center and install libre or open offfice through there | 17:01 |
| kbmonkey | I see a ubuntuforums thread of someone with the same issue | 17:01 |
| Kilos | always install synaptic and do installs from there or with aptitude | 17:01 |
| Kilos | kbmonkey, you use aptitude? | 17:01 |
| kbmonkey | but it seems a tricky operation and reinstall will help you quicker oupateddie :) | 17:01 |
| kbmonkey | no Kilos I use apt | 17:02 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:02 |
| kbmonkey | well its the same as aptitude, but just command line | 17:02 |
| Kilos | aptitude is better man | 17:02 |
| Kilos | much more user friendly | 17:02 |
| oupateddie | yep I agree | 17:02 |
| kbmonkey | what can be more user friendly than the command line? ;) | 17:02 |
| oupateddie | 'n kwaai vrou | 17:03 |
| Kilos | i wish i had that pc here | 17:03 |
| kbmonkey | this is tricky, I have not worked with ppa's in like 2 years | 17:03 |
| kbmonkey | LOL oupateddie | 17:03 |
| Kilos | be interesting to sort that prob out | 17:03 |
| kbmonkey | on packages.ubuntu.com I searched for libre office, and it is in the main | 17:05 |
| kbmonkey | does libre office not support word formats ? | 17:05 |
| oupateddie | Yep but there is a new 4.1 lo out with its own ppa | 17:05 |
| superfly | it does | 17:05 |
| kbmonkey | ah, okay I see. the new 4.1 probably pulled in some newer dependencies and caused a ruckus! | 17:06 |
| superfly | oupateddie: don't use that ppa - those packages are packaged incorrectly. | 17:06 |
| kbmonkey | ^ thanks superfly. I was wondering about that. | 17:06 |
| oupateddie | Well it works on my own machine. But I'll try and remove it from my main machine and rollback to 4.0 | 17:06 |
| superfly | remove the ppa | 17:07 |
| superfly | apt-get update | 17:07 |
| superfly | apt-get install --reinstall libreoffice | 17:07 |
| superfly | (not real package names, please make sure you're using the right ones) | 17:07 |
| oupateddie | thanks superfly | 17:08 |
| oupateddie | will do that | 17:08 |
| kbmonkey | good stuff | 17:08 |
| kbmonkey | time for me to make dinner | 17:09 |
| oupateddie | Where are you kbmonkey | 17:09 |
| kbmonkey | Durban oupateddie | 17:10 |
| oupateddie | Opposite sied of me I'm at Yzerfontein West Coast | 17:11 |
| kbmonkey | Ag lekker! | 17:11 |
| Kilos | oupateddie, you are having these probs because you havent been here for a long tim | 17:12 |
| Kilos | time | 17:12 |
| oupateddie | Time Kilos, time | 17:12 |
| Kilos | oh kbmonkey ive used 13.04 kde | 17:12 |
| oupateddie | I'm getting ready to visit Dubai in Jan 2014 so everything has to be finished | 17:13 |
| Kilos | everyone cries about the time in this fast paced world | 17:13 |
| Kilos | whew | 17:13 |
| Kilos | come on oupateddie is office fixed? | 17:22 |
| kbmonkey | lol kil | 17:23 |
| kbmonkey | Maaz, coffee on | 17:23 |
| * Maaz puts the kettle on | 17:23 | |
| kbmonkey | ai! terminal doing that funny character thing again. typing to fast for my ssh tunnerl | 17:23 |
| oupateddie | I'm busy with reinstallation | 17:24 |
| oupateddie | The Libre is running on this machine | 17:24 |
| oupateddie | My proble is that this friend is using libre for reports and when the other side opens it in office 2003/7 the formatting is all skrewed up | 17:25 |
| oupateddie | Somehow an extra blank page is inserted after every libre page in die doc | 17:26 |
| kbmonkey | hmm, sounds like the page margins are too wide | 17:26 |
| kbmonkey | but that is just my guess | 17:26 |
| oupateddie | that's what I thought as well | 17:26 |
| oupateddie | I found this with another client as well | 17:26 |
| superfly | oupateddie: that's a known issue in Office (if you're saving things in ODT) | 17:27 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for kbmonkey! | 17:27 |
| oupateddie | but MS Office is so sh1t and I cannot thionk why people cannot see the light | 17:27 |
| superfly | Office doesn't implement any of the standards properly | 17:27 |
| kbmonkey | fancy documents are not my forte, Im a text file person myself | 17:27 |
| oupateddie | no saving in .doc | 17:27 |
| kbmonkey | Maaz, dankie | 17:27 |
| Maaz | Groot plesier kbmonkey my vriend | 17:27 |
| oupateddie | ditto superfly | 17:27 |
| oupateddie | According to the world standards authority the ot format is the industry standard | 17:28 |
| kbmonkey | office supports odf formats now (if I recall correctly), maybe have more luck with those | 17:28 |
| oupateddie | but Microsoft think they are the cat's whiskers | 17:28 |
| kbmonkey | odt* | 17:28 |
| * superfly had to tell a friend today to stop using IE for their own safety | 17:28 | |
| superfly | I couldn't believe people still use that piece of rubbish | 17:28 |
| oupateddie | Office 2010or 2013 perhaps | 17:28 |
| superfly | 2010 and 2013 sortof support ODT | 17:29 |
| oupateddie | The best of LO or OO is that they always loo the same even in newer versions but MS changes everything meaniong a new training | 17:29 |
| oupateddie | Which would you say is better now LO or OpenO | 17:30 |
| superfly | LibreOFfice | 17:30 |
| superfly | AOO is being left behind | 17:30 |
| oupateddie | Even now that Apache has taken OO over | 17:30 |
| superfly | yup | 17:31 |
| kbmonkey | reading an interesting piece on microsoft vs free software, you compete with two ways: features and price. since ms cannot compete with price, they create faux features to give the impression of added value | 17:31 |
| superfly | they didn't take it over, it was donated | 17:31 |
| oupateddie | wait a mo... the new office 365 costs only USD10 as I understand | 17:31 |
| superfly | per month or per year | 17:32 |
| superfly | it's a subscription | 17:32 |
| oupateddie | per year apparently | 17:32 |
| oupateddie | They want to hit LO out of the market in this way | 17:32 |
| oupateddie | But they can do what they want, Linux is still a safer option wrt virus etc.. | 17:33 |
| oupateddie | oh yes and MS is going strong in the cloud direction | 17:33 |
| Kilos | oupateddie, heres that command | 18:30 |
| Kilos | sudo apt-get --fix-broken | 18:30 |
| Kilos | im still looking for the other one | 18:31 |
| oupateddie | Nou bietjie laat ek amper klaar reinstall, maar dankie | 18:31 |
| Kilos | ja man maar hou dit vir volgende probleem | 18:31 |
| Kilos | hehe | 18:31 |
| oupateddie | Sal so maak... | 18:32 |
| Kilos | groot werk vir my om te soek waar is als weggesteek | 18:32 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 19:40 |
| Kilos | see youall morrow | 19:40 |
| Kilos | nlsthzn, how come you not asleep yet? | 19:40 |
| nlsthzn | :) wife just telling me to come to bed :p | 19:41 |
| nlsthzn | so I am off now | 19:41 |
| nlsthzn | night | 19:41 |
| Kilos | night | 19:41 |
| Kilos | hehe | 19:41 |
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