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ahoneybunhey valorie 00:23
valoriehi ahoneybun00:24
valoriehow are ya?00:24
ahoneybungood you?00:25
valoriestressed that Xmas is almost here and I'm not ready00:26
valoriebut otherwise good00:26
valorieI think00:26
ahoneybuncool00:27
ahoneybunI think me and my friend are going to review the basic page00:28
valoriegreat!00:33
valorieI'm running out of time to get a talk proposal together00:34
valorieso that's what i'm going to do tonight00:34
valorieso I might get to go to India to give it!00:34
valoriefor KDE Conf.in00:34
ahoneybunawesome00:35
ahoneybunyour email seems to be gaining ground 00:35
valoriewell, I think I need to take this to the KDE-Community list00:39
valorieI don't see that the Manifesto is a barrier00:39
valoriebut I haven't thought that through yet00:39
valoriemaybe tonight00:39
valorieoff to pizza00:44
ahoneybunvalorie: I got kubuntu-desktop package installed and I'm the latest KDE 4.11202:02
ahoneybun4.11.202:02
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manchickenAnybody terribly familiar with qdbus?04:30
ahoneybunmanchicken: sadly not me04:38
manchickenI'm trying to run my QtTest with libqapt, and it does writes using qdbus and polkit.04:40
* ahoneybun is trying to build CM11 with 4.4.204:49
manchickenCM?05:17
ahoneybuncyanogenmod05:17
manchickenAh.05:35
manchickenI'm still using CM10.205:36
ahoneybunI'm on 20131210 nightly05:40
ahoneybun4.4.105:40
manchickenw00t! I'm almost done with my changes to libqapt.05:56
manchickenI need to put together a changelog.05:59
manchickenw00t! And I got rid of some warnings.06:35
manchickenNow I just need to finish the part I started working on this library for in the first place: handle removing items when it results in the file being emptied.06:36
Riddellahoneybun: what is cyanogenmod?08:08
NoskcajRiddell, A custom android OS08:44
Noskcajand bootloader AFAIK08:44
unicodesnowmanit's an awesome android OS, it has textsecure (OTR for SMS) built in!08:51
unicodesnowmanit's like a distro lol08:51
lordievaderGood morning.10:32
unicodesnowmanmorning!10:43
lordievaderHey unicodesnowman, how are you?10:45
unicodesnowmanbit sleepy, but otherwise good, you?10:45
lordievaderunicodesnowman: Doing good, refactoring code.10:46
unicodesnowmanwhat code?10:47
lordievaderunicodesnowman: Code for a university assignment.10:47
mikhaseh10:52
mikhaslordievader, smart advice: dont make it look *too simple* if you hope for good grades10:52
lordievadermikhas: It's for an art minor. They don't really care for the code. (But I do.)10:53
mikhasthat's the only motivation that counts10:53
mikhasthat and money10:54
lordievadermikhas: ;)10:54
chiefw0tjGreetings all.  I'm interested in contributing...just starting to teach myself code though.  11:09
chiefw0tjThought I'd poke around the IRC channel to see what's up11:09
soeegood morning11:25
chiefw0tjgood morning soee . How are you?11:26
soeehi chiefw0tj im fine, you ?11:26
chiefw0tjUp early...but other than that, great! 11:27
soee;]11:29
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chiefw0tjsoee: how long have you been working on Kubuntu? 11:43
soeechiefw0tj: im not working on im working with :)11:47
chiefw0tjsoee: fair point...my mistake.  :)11:48
BluesKajhiyas all12:42
shadeslayerKDE 4.12 in Ninjas seems good to go?16:59
shadeslayerMirv: have you ever tried compiling Qt5 from git with -fPIC and -fvisibility=hidden?17:02
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ahoneybunhey valorie22:44
valoriegreets22:45
valorieI cc'd you because I don't know if you are on the kde-community list22:46
ahoneybunvalorie: I'm not but thansk22:49
ahoneybun*thanks22:49
soeehi valorie22:49
valoriedang, everyone should be on that list!22:50
valoriehi soee22:50
valoriebut it's new22:50
valorieish22:50
ahoneybunvalorie: I added somechanges here https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/Basic#Kickoff22:51
valoriecool22:55
valorieodd, I'm looking at the muon section, and what we use by default is ignored22:55
valorieoh good lord, and we have "how to handle deb files" in Basic!22:56
valoriewe need a serious slimming of that page22:56
soeehttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/22:57
soeesomething is a bit broekn with position of this ubuntu menus22:57
manchickenshadeslayer: ping22:59
shadeslayermanchicken: pong22:59
manchickenshadeslayer: I think we're stepping on each others toes with libqapt22:59
shadeslayeroh?22:59
shadeslayermanchicken: why ?23:00
manchickenYeah, you're branching on "frameworks" it seems, I'm packaging up what I believe is a more-finished version of what was to be 2.123:00
manchickenI fixed an awful lot of issues with it and built in support for multiple simultaneous sources files.23:01
shadeslayerright, we had a frameworks hack day today and I started trying to figure out if libqapt can be used with KF5 when its released23:01
shadeslayerit's a start, but not complete by any means23:01
manchickenIt looks like you're doing some Qt5 changes, too. I fear conflicts are inevidable.23:01
shadeslayermanchicken: that's fine, it's my problem to deal with :)23:02
manchickenRighto.23:02
manchickenDid you see my email from last night?23:02
shadeslayerI'll rebase when you merge changes into master23:02
shadeslayerI had a cursory read through it23:02
manchickenI don't have commit rights on that repo.23:02
manchickenI was thinking I would have to go through the review board in order to get my changes pulled.23:02
shadeslayermanchicken: yep23:02
shadeslayerI'd say put on reviewboard23:03
shadeslayerthen ask someone with KDE commit rights to merge your branch23:03
manchickenI wanted to hit up those who depended on the library first to see if I broke something of theirs.23:03
shadeslayerthat'd be apol23:03
manchickenI got an email from someone today about a problem with something in libqapt failing to install if it's using a non-English locale... which I haven't had a chance to test.23:03
shadeslayermanchicken: not sure you noticed, but most of my commits today were to get the build system up23:04
shadeslayerI've disabled all the KDE stuff and was just getting libqapt up23:04
manchickenThat bug was reported yesterday, so I don't think it's necessary to get the fix into the next release.23:04
manchickenYeah, if you go into my repo I have two scripts, cleanup and mycmake, which do a fair amount of workarounds for build problems I encountered.23:05
shadeslayer:)23:05
manchickenI'm lousy with cmake, so much of that is trial-and-error on my part.23:05
shadeslayermanchicken: well, my commits were to just fix CMake to look for Qt5 and KF5 ;)23:05
manchickenYeah, but is it compatible with Qt5?23:07
manchickenI'm more worried about libapt compatibility, apt-pkg has some deprecation warnings now.23:07
shadeslayercompatible with Qt5?23:07
manchickenI enabled -Wall and cleaned up most of the warnings I was getting, too.23:07
shadeslayerawesome23:07
manchickenYeah, is libqapt compatible with Qt523:07
manchickenI haven't even had time to look at that yet.23:07
manchickenI've been more worried about getting multi-file support put in so that I can use that in the kubuntu-debug-installer changes.23:08
manchickenI got some automated tests in for QApt::SourcesList, too, and I'm pleased with that.23:09
manchickenMy first time using QtTest.23:09
shadeslayerit is23:10
shadeslayermanchicken++23:11
shadeslayermore tests are good23:11
shadeslayermanchicken: I'm mostly busy with landing logind support for powerdevil and finishing of driver manager next week23:11
shadeslayerthen going for xmas holiday's23:11
valorie(especially when shadeslayer doesn't have to write them)23:11
shadeslayerso I won't have time to look at your commits till next year, however, I'd push them on reviewboard to gather comments from other people23:12
manchickenOkay23:12
shadeslayerhehehe23:12
manchickenIt seems like maintainers need to comment first.23:12
manchickenMaintainers of other programs23:13
shadeslayerwell, afaik muon is the only consumer of libqapt23:13
manchickenIt might be the only consumer that we care about in kubuntu :)23:16
valoriewhat does apper use instead?23:16
shadeslayerpackagekit23:16
valorieah, ok23:16
valorieRiddell: very encouraging feedback on the docs, on the KDE-community list23:17
valoriesounds like a move might be possible, and welcome23:17
valoriethanks for pushing on this23:18
manchickenHere are the deps I can find: kpackagekit, kcm-grub2, kubuntu-debug-installer23:21
manchickenWell, I'm gonna boogie.23:22

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