[00:23] <ahoneybun> hey valorie 
[00:24] <valorie> hi ahoneybun
[00:24] <valorie> how are ya?
[00:25] <ahoneybun> good you?
[00:26] <valorie> stressed that Xmas is almost here and I'm not ready
[00:26] <valorie> but otherwise good
[00:26] <valorie> I think
[00:27] <ahoneybun> cool
[00:28] <ahoneybun> I think me and my friend are going to review the basic page
[00:33] <valorie> great!
[00:34] <valorie> I'm running out of time to get a talk proposal together
[00:34] <valorie> so that's what i'm going to do tonight
[00:34] <valorie> so I might get to go to India to give it!
[00:34] <valorie> for KDE Conf.in
[00:35] <ahoneybun> awesome
[00:35] <ahoneybun> your email seems to be gaining ground 
[00:39] <valorie> well, I think I need to take this to the KDE-Community list
[00:39] <valorie> I don't see that the Manifesto is a barrier
[00:39] <valorie> but I haven't thought that through yet
[00:39] <valorie> maybe tonight
[00:44] <valorie> off to pizza
[02:02] <ahoneybun> valorie: I got kubuntu-desktop package installed and I'm the latest KDE 4.112
[02:02] <ahoneybun> 4.11.2
[04:30] <manchicken> Anybody terribly familiar with qdbus?
[04:38] <ahoneybun> manchicken: sadly not me
[04:40] <manchicken> I'm trying to run my QtTest with libqapt, and it does writes using qdbus and polkit.
[04:49]  * ahoneybun is trying to build CM11 with 4.4.2
[05:17] <manchicken> CM?
[05:17] <ahoneybun> cyanogenmod
[05:35] <manchicken> Ah.
[05:36] <manchicken> I'm still using CM10.2
[05:40] <ahoneybun> I'm on 20131210 nightly
[05:40] <ahoneybun> 4.4.1
[05:56] <manchicken> w00t! I'm almost done with my changes to libqapt.
[05:59] <manchicken> I need to put together a changelog.
[06:35] <manchicken> w00t! And I got rid of some warnings.
[06:36] <manchicken> Now I just need to finish the part I started working on this library for in the first place: handle removing items when it results in the file being emptied.
[08:08] <Riddell> ahoneybun: what is cyanogenmod?
[08:44] <Noskcaj> Riddell, A custom android OS
[08:44] <Noskcaj> and bootloader AFAIK
[08:51] <unicodesnowman> it's an awesome android OS, it has textsecure (OTR for SMS) built in!
[08:51] <unicodesnowman> it's like a distro lol
[10:32] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:43] <unicodesnowman> morning!
[10:45] <lordievader> Hey unicodesnowman, how are you?
[10:45] <unicodesnowman> bit sleepy, but otherwise good, you?
[10:46] <lordievader> unicodesnowman: Doing good, refactoring code.
[10:47] <unicodesnowman> what code?
[10:47] <lordievader> unicodesnowman: Code for a university assignment.
[10:52] <mikhas> eh
[10:52] <mikhas> lordievader, smart advice: dont make it look *too simple* if you hope for good grades
[10:53] <lordievader> mikhas: It's for an art minor. They don't really care for the code. (But I do.)
[10:53] <mikhas> that's the only motivation that counts
[10:54] <mikhas> that and money
[10:54] <lordievader> mikhas: ;)
[11:09] <chiefw0tj> Greetings all.  I'm interested in contributing...just starting to teach myself code though.  
[11:09] <chiefw0tj> Thought I'd poke around the IRC channel to see what's up
[11:25] <soee> good morning
[11:26] <chiefw0tj> good morning soee . How are you?
[11:26] <soee> hi chiefw0tj im fine, you ?
[11:27] <chiefw0tj> Up early...but other than that, great! 
[11:29] <soee> ;]
[11:43] <chiefw0tj> soee: how long have you been working on Kubuntu? 
[11:47] <soee> chiefw0tj: im not working on im working with :)
[11:48] <chiefw0tj> soee: fair point...my mistake.  :)
[12:42] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[16:59] <shadeslayer> KDE 4.12 in Ninjas seems good to go?
[17:02] <shadeslayer> Mirv: have you ever tried compiling Qt5 from git with -fPIC and -fvisibility=hidden?
[22:44] <ahoneybun> hey valorie
[22:45] <valorie> greets
[22:46] <valorie> I cc'd you because I don't know if you are on the kde-community list
[22:49] <ahoneybun> valorie: I'm not but thansk
[22:49] <ahoneybun> *thanks
[22:49] <soee> hi valorie
[22:50] <valorie> dang, everyone should be on that list!
[22:50] <valorie> hi soee
[22:50] <valorie> but it's new
[22:50] <valorie> ish
[22:51] <ahoneybun> valorie: I added somechanges here https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/Basic#Kickoff
[22:55] <valorie> cool
[22:55] <valorie> odd, I'm looking at the muon section, and what we use by default is ignored
[22:56] <valorie> oh good lord, and we have "how to handle deb files" in Basic!
[22:56] <valorie> we need a serious slimming of that page
[22:57] <soee> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/
[22:57] <soee> something is a bit broekn with position of this ubuntu menus
[22:59] <manchicken> shadeslayer: ping
[22:59] <shadeslayer> manchicken: pong
[22:59] <manchicken> shadeslayer: I think we're stepping on each others toes with libqapt
[22:59] <shadeslayer> oh?
[23:00] <shadeslayer> manchicken: why ?
[23:00] <manchicken> Yeah, you're branching on "frameworks" it seems, I'm packaging up what I believe is a more-finished version of what was to be 2.1
[23:01] <manchicken> I fixed an awful lot of issues with it and built in support for multiple simultaneous sources files.
[23:01] <shadeslayer> right, we had a frameworks hack day today and I started trying to figure out if libqapt can be used with KF5 when its released
[23:01] <shadeslayer> it's a start, but not complete by any means
[23:01] <manchicken> It looks like you're doing some Qt5 changes, too. I fear conflicts are inevidable.
[23:02] <shadeslayer> manchicken: that's fine, it's my problem to deal with :)
[23:02] <manchicken> Righto.
[23:02] <manchicken> Did you see my email from last night?
[23:02] <shadeslayer> I'll rebase when you merge changes into master
[23:02] <shadeslayer> I had a cursory read through it
[23:02] <manchicken> I don't have commit rights on that repo.
[23:02] <manchicken> I was thinking I would have to go through the review board in order to get my changes pulled.
[23:02] <shadeslayer> manchicken: yep
[23:03] <shadeslayer> I'd say put on reviewboard
[23:03] <shadeslayer> then ask someone with KDE commit rights to merge your branch
[23:03] <manchicken> I wanted to hit up those who depended on the library first to see if I broke something of theirs.
[23:03] <shadeslayer> that'd be apol
[23:03] <manchicken> I got an email from someone today about a problem with something in libqapt failing to install if it's using a non-English locale... which I haven't had a chance to test.
[23:04] <shadeslayer> manchicken: not sure you noticed, but most of my commits today were to get the build system up
[23:04] <shadeslayer> I've disabled all the KDE stuff and was just getting libqapt up
[23:04] <manchicken> That bug was reported yesterday, so I don't think it's necessary to get the fix into the next release.
[23:05] <manchicken> Yeah, if you go into my repo I have two scripts, cleanup and mycmake, which do a fair amount of workarounds for build problems I encountered.
[23:05] <shadeslayer> :)
[23:05] <manchicken> I'm lousy with cmake, so much of that is trial-and-error on my part.
[23:05] <shadeslayer> manchicken: well, my commits were to just fix CMake to look for Qt5 and KF5 ;)
[23:07] <manchicken> Yeah, but is it compatible with Qt5?
[23:07] <manchicken> I'm more worried about libapt compatibility, apt-pkg has some deprecation warnings now.
[23:07] <shadeslayer> compatible with Qt5?
[23:07] <manchicken> I enabled -Wall and cleaned up most of the warnings I was getting, too.
[23:07] <shadeslayer> awesome
[23:07] <manchicken> Yeah, is libqapt compatible with Qt5
[23:07] <manchicken> I haven't even had time to look at that yet.
[23:08] <manchicken> I've been more worried about getting multi-file support put in so that I can use that in the kubuntu-debug-installer changes.
[23:09] <manchicken> I got some automated tests in for QApt::SourcesList, too, and I'm pleased with that.
[23:09] <manchicken> My first time using QtTest.
[23:10] <shadeslayer> it is
[23:11] <shadeslayer> manchicken++
[23:11] <shadeslayer> more tests are good
[23:11] <shadeslayer> manchicken: I'm mostly busy with landing logind support for powerdevil and finishing of driver manager next week
[23:11] <shadeslayer> then going for xmas holiday's
[23:11] <valorie> (especially when shadeslayer doesn't have to write them)
[23:12] <shadeslayer> so I won't have time to look at your commits till next year, however, I'd push them on reviewboard to gather comments from other people
[23:12] <manchicken> Okay
[23:12] <shadeslayer> hehehe
[23:12] <manchicken> It seems like maintainers need to comment first.
[23:13] <manchicken> Maintainers of other programs
[23:13] <shadeslayer> well, afaik muon is the only consumer of libqapt
[23:16] <manchicken> It might be the only consumer that we care about in kubuntu :)
[23:16] <valorie> what does apper use instead?
[23:16] <shadeslayer> packagekit
[23:16] <valorie> ah, ok
[23:17] <valorie> Riddell: very encouraging feedback on the docs, on the KDE-community list
[23:17] <valorie> sounds like a move might be possible, and welcome
[23:18] <valorie> thanks for pushing on this
[23:21] <manchicken> Here are the deps I can find: kpackagekit, kcm-grub2, kubuntu-debug-installer
[23:22] <manchicken> Well, I'm gonna boogie.