[00:23] hey valorie [00:24] hi ahoneybun [00:24] how are ya? [00:25] good you? [00:26] stressed that Xmas is almost here and I'm not ready [00:26] but otherwise good [00:26] I think [00:27] cool [00:28] I think me and my friend are going to review the basic page [00:33] great! [00:34] I'm running out of time to get a talk proposal together [00:34] so that's what i'm going to do tonight [00:34] so I might get to go to India to give it! [00:34] for KDE Conf.in [00:35] awesome [00:35] your email seems to be gaining ground [00:39] well, I think I need to take this to the KDE-Community list [00:39] I don't see that the Manifesto is a barrier [00:39] but I haven't thought that through yet [00:39] maybe tonight [00:44] off to pizza [02:02] valorie: I got kubuntu-desktop package installed and I'm the latest KDE 4.112 [02:02] 4.11.2 === Toadnohyp is now known as Hypnotoad === mydogsnameisrudy is now known as monkeyjuice [04:30] Anybody terribly familiar with qdbus? [04:38] manchicken: sadly not me [04:40] I'm trying to run my QtTest with libqapt, and it does writes using qdbus and polkit. [04:49] * ahoneybun is trying to build CM11 with 4.4.2 [05:17] CM? [05:17] cyanogenmod [05:35] Ah. [05:36] I'm still using CM10.2 [05:40] I'm on 20131210 nightly [05:40] 4.4.1 [05:56] w00t! I'm almost done with my changes to libqapt. [05:59] I need to put together a changelog. [06:35] w00t! And I got rid of some warnings. [06:36] Now I just need to finish the part I started working on this library for in the first place: handle removing items when it results in the file being emptied. [08:08] ahoneybun: what is cyanogenmod? [08:44] Riddell, A custom android OS [08:44] and bootloader AFAIK [08:51] it's an awesome android OS, it has textsecure (OTR for SMS) built in! [08:51] it's like a distro lol [10:32] Good morning. [10:43] morning! [10:45] Hey unicodesnowman, how are you? [10:45] bit sleepy, but otherwise good, you? [10:46] unicodesnowman: Doing good, refactoring code. [10:47] what code? [10:47] unicodesnowman: Code for a university assignment. [10:52] eh [10:52] lordievader, smart advice: dont make it look *too simple* if you hope for good grades [10:53] mikhas: It's for an art minor. They don't really care for the code. (But I do.) [10:53] that's the only motivation that counts [10:54] that and money [10:54] mikhas: ;) [11:09] Greetings all. I'm interested in contributing...just starting to teach myself code though. [11:09] Thought I'd poke around the IRC channel to see what's up [11:25] good morning [11:26] good morning soee . How are you? [11:26] hi chiefw0tj im fine, you ? [11:27] Up early...but other than that, great! [11:29] ;] === soee_ is now known as soee [11:43] soee: how long have you been working on Kubuntu? [11:47] chiefw0tj: im not working on im working with :) [11:48] soee: fair point...my mistake. :) [12:42] hiyas all [16:59] KDE 4.12 in Ninjas seems good to go? [17:02] Mirv: have you ever tried compiling Qt5 from git with -fPIC and -fvisibility=hidden? === Blizzzek is now known as Blizzz [22:44] hey valorie [22:45] greets [22:46] I cc'd you because I don't know if you are on the kde-community list [22:49] valorie: I'm not but thansk [22:49] *thanks [22:49] hi valorie [22:50] dang, everyone should be on that list! [22:50] hi soee [22:50] but it's new [22:50] ish [22:51] valorie: I added somechanges here https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/Basic#Kickoff [22:55] cool [22:55] odd, I'm looking at the muon section, and what we use by default is ignored [22:56] oh good lord, and we have "how to handle deb files" in Basic! [22:56] we need a serious slimming of that page [22:57] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/ [22:57] something is a bit broekn with position of this ubuntu menus [22:59] shadeslayer: ping [22:59] manchicken: pong [22:59] shadeslayer: I think we're stepping on each others toes with libqapt [22:59] oh? [23:00] manchicken: why ? [23:00] Yeah, you're branching on "frameworks" it seems, I'm packaging up what I believe is a more-finished version of what was to be 2.1 [23:01] I fixed an awful lot of issues with it and built in support for multiple simultaneous sources files. [23:01] right, we had a frameworks hack day today and I started trying to figure out if libqapt can be used with KF5 when its released [23:01] it's a start, but not complete by any means [23:01] It looks like you're doing some Qt5 changes, too. I fear conflicts are inevidable. [23:02] manchicken: that's fine, it's my problem to deal with :) [23:02] Righto. [23:02] Did you see my email from last night? [23:02] I'll rebase when you merge changes into master [23:02] I had a cursory read through it [23:02] I don't have commit rights on that repo. [23:02] I was thinking I would have to go through the review board in order to get my changes pulled. [23:02] manchicken: yep [23:03] I'd say put on reviewboard [23:03] then ask someone with KDE commit rights to merge your branch [23:03] I wanted to hit up those who depended on the library first to see if I broke something of theirs. [23:03] that'd be apol [23:03] I got an email from someone today about a problem with something in libqapt failing to install if it's using a non-English locale... which I haven't had a chance to test. [23:04] manchicken: not sure you noticed, but most of my commits today were to get the build system up [23:04] I've disabled all the KDE stuff and was just getting libqapt up [23:04] That bug was reported yesterday, so I don't think it's necessary to get the fix into the next release. [23:05] Yeah, if you go into my repo I have two scripts, cleanup and mycmake, which do a fair amount of workarounds for build problems I encountered. [23:05] :) [23:05] I'm lousy with cmake, so much of that is trial-and-error on my part. [23:05] manchicken: well, my commits were to just fix CMake to look for Qt5 and KF5 ;) [23:07] Yeah, but is it compatible with Qt5? [23:07] I'm more worried about libapt compatibility, apt-pkg has some deprecation warnings now. [23:07] compatible with Qt5? [23:07] I enabled -Wall and cleaned up most of the warnings I was getting, too. [23:07] awesome [23:07] Yeah, is libqapt compatible with Qt5 [23:07] I haven't even had time to look at that yet. [23:08] I've been more worried about getting multi-file support put in so that I can use that in the kubuntu-debug-installer changes. [23:09] I got some automated tests in for QApt::SourcesList, too, and I'm pleased with that. [23:09] My first time using QtTest. [23:10] it is [23:11] manchicken++ [23:11] more tests are good [23:11] manchicken: I'm mostly busy with landing logind support for powerdevil and finishing of driver manager next week [23:11] then going for xmas holiday's [23:11] (especially when shadeslayer doesn't have to write them) [23:12] so I won't have time to look at your commits till next year, however, I'd push them on reviewboard to gather comments from other people [23:12] Okay [23:12] hehehe [23:12] It seems like maintainers need to comment first. [23:13] Maintainers of other programs [23:13] well, afaik muon is the only consumer of libqapt [23:16] It might be the only consumer that we care about in kubuntu :) [23:16] what does apper use instead? [23:16] packagekit [23:16] ah, ok [23:17] Riddell: very encouraging feedback on the docs, on the KDE-community list [23:17] sounds like a move might be possible, and welcome [23:18] thanks for pushing on this [23:21] Here are the deps I can find: kpackagekit, kcm-grub2, kubuntu-debug-installer [23:22] Well, I'm gonna boogie.