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popeyAlanBell: thats excellent00:00
AlanBellpopey: I thought you might like it :)00:02
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brobostigongood morning everyone.10:23
popeyGood morning10:42
brobostigonmorning popey10:43
foobarrylovely sunny day11:35
brobostigoncertainly, and reletivly warm,11:36
foobarryhttp://ibnlive.in.com/news/google-may-use-arm-technology-for-server-processors/439558-11.html11:36
foobarrywarm in my sitting room11:37
shaunogale-force rain over here :/11:37
foobarrygoogle contributes to 5% of intel sales?11:38
brobostigon8c outside here, which for this time of the year, is good.11:38
foobarrythe bigger story that they might make their own chips11:41
shaunothis steamos stuff has me thinking about building a htpc all over again11:41
foobarrywhat hardware shauno ?11:56
shaunoI have no idea yet.  that's the fun bit :)11:57
foobarryi have a pvr ..bit limited in that it is not internet connected, but lot less hassle and wife friendly11:57
shaunoI have an appletv atm, that's been xbmc'd up the wazoo.  it's nice & tidy but a bit tired11:58
shaunoalthough most my problems are simply that it has an OS version so old that no-one targets it anymore12:00
Myrttioh dear12:01
MyrttiAmazon lighting deals have a nice looking camera on12:01
Myrttitell me I don't need a new camera12:01
penguin42Myrtti: What's your current camera?12:02
shaunoyou want us to lie to your face?  it's christmas, of course you need new toys ;)12:02
MyrttiOlympus Pen PL-112:02
penguin42you don't need a new camera!12:02
Myrttihttp://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00CBF4KKI/ gna gna gna12:02
Myrttiit's 300 pounds :-o12:03
MyrttiI don't need a new camera.12:03
Myrtti(I'd otherwise ask D to convince me, but he's in this Code Retreat thing in Pborough and isn't available to convince me to not look at things)12:04
penguin42Myrtti: The Nikon they have on there is more my level12:04
Myrttipenguin42: yeah I know, I won't even look at it because I find the m4/3'rds more my size devices12:04
Myrttiif a camera is any bigger I won't use it at all12:05
Myrttianyhoo, time to go stir the slow cooker12:05
foobarry"It was expensive, not so much for the fish, but for the helium, so all in this is a 60 quid helium balloon. We bought two,(fish and shark) and one large sized canister from Toys r us, who assured us the one can would do the fish and the shark. It did the one Clown fish. The fish went together fasirly easily, nothing complicated, and the kids did like it, that is until I opened the back door to put some wine outside and it made a beeline st12:06
foobarrylol. looks like a massive con. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Wow-Stuff-Air-Swimmer-870101/dp/B004P2CQM4/ref=sr_1_74?s=kids&ie=UTF8&qid=1387022647&sr=1-7412:06
penguin42Myrtti: I like having a camera that just sits in my pocket all the time, doesn't take up much space and is cheap enough that I don't worry much about just leaving it in my pocket12:10
AlanBellfoobarry: I have one, it is brilliant12:10
penguin42Myrtti: And I like having a good zoom to go with it12:10
AlanBellfoobarry: I have the angry birds one12:10
Myrttioh *that* nikon12:11
penguin42Myrtti: My current one is a Samsung WB600 (or is it the 550 hmm) but it's 12Mp, 18x zoom I think - but pretty lousy in low light12:12
foobarryAlanBell: its a remote control airship?12:12
foobarrybut you have to get it filled with helium, so a rather luxury item right?12:13
AlanBellit is a toy, yes, but not expensive really12:13
AlanBellabout £20 for a helium cylinder which lasts quite a while12:13
AlanBelland it lasts much longer than RC planes or cars for a playing session12:14
AlanBelland it is funny12:14
* AlanBell charges it up and tops up the helium12:16
foobarryi wonder who  these people selling ps4 on facebook are12:19
foobarryplayed it for a week and now skint?12:19
penguin42foobarry: Or found a discount system somewhere?12:26
brobostigonis there a way to trick the google play store into thinking you have a different device, to install something it says is incompatible.?12:31
* popey spatchcocks a chicken12:56
brobostigon:)12:57
popeyhttp://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/2013/12/14/s06e42-no-country-for-old-ubuntu/12:58
popey\o/ better late than never12:58
brobostigon:)12:58
foobarrydaddy please can we watch click at lunchtime? OK :D13:00
foobarryANGRY BIRDS daddy ,robots!13:00
brobostigonclick got ditched for nelson mendelas funeral.13:06
penguin42hmm - http://www.staples.co.uk/phones-digital-cameras-ereaders/digital-cameras-digital-frames/digital-cameras/camileo-x400-red   I was almost tempted by that; but that says 5MP there, but in the ad in the paper it said 16Mp13:12
foobarrybrobostigon: i'm watching it13:13
brobostigonfoobarry: i am watching on iplayer.13:13
foobarryi record the longer version,the shortonedidn't get shown13:13
foobarrylol @ the 3d printed hipster gramophone13:17
brobostigon8 or 900 quid, ouch though.13:18
shaunoooh, Chang-e is scheduled to land (on the moon) today.  neat!13:23
gordonjcpshauno: landed13:27
foobarryany parents tried colarapp?13:27
shaunodamnit, I missed it.  seems successful though.  awesome13:28
penguin42popey: Wow at the auto tagging - I wonder how many CPU cores Google dedicate to cat detection18:33
popeyyeah18:33
penguin42their image analysis/search is pretty damn neat these days18:34
daftykins:)18:42
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)19:50
foobarrynever seen tron or the new tron20:02
foobarrydon't think i will start now either20:03
daftykinsfoobarry: aww they have some beautiful imagery and impressive audio20:24
daftykinsyou don't go in for the plot :)20:25
daftykins(all that applies mostly to Tron: Legacy)20:25
foobarryand nokia product placement20:25
foobarryits blowing up a gale outside20:28
MyrttiLinux laptops: should you avoid buying Windows?22:54
Myrttihttp://gu.com/p/3y7t222:54
Myrttifound when browsing Guardian as I do22:54
AlanBellinteresting article22:56
AlanBellI don't get how economists are not squirming at the lack of a functioning free market23:00
AlanBellthe answer is "just shut up and buy Windows pre-installed"23:01
penguin42AlanBell: The problem is it's a matter of scale23:01
AlanBellwhich means the sales figures are distorted23:02
AlanBellit is a matter of monopoly23:02
AlanBellyes, the crapware offsets the license cost, I get that23:02
penguin42AlanBell: Until you can get thousands of people buying the Linux one there is little that can be done; you can buy laptops through the business arm of some of these companies without windows23:02
AlanBellyeah, I know all that, but this article is advising people to act contrary to free market principals23:03
AlanBelllike all the others do23:03
AlanBellthe next laptop or two that I buy are likely to be chromebooks23:04
penguin42problem is they have really bad specs23:04
AlanBellyeah, but they do what I want them to do, which is be a browser23:05
AlanBellextras for home so certain people leave me alone and don't try to turn *my* laptop into an Occado terminal23:06
penguin42haha yes that's probalby reasonable - although a tablet would probably do that23:08
AlanBellyeah, we have a tablet and it doesn't really23:08
AlanBellthat is the music player for the kitchen, and I use it to check the hencam to see if I need to go outside and collect eggs :)23:08
AlanBellthe screen on the nexus 7 (old style) isn't really big enough or high resolution enough for a big online shopping session23:09
AlanBelleven with a bluetooth keyboard it isn't quite a laptop23:10
AlanBellhttps://plus.google.com/u/0/+AlanBell/posts/VLZvWBV5oX8 \o/23:11
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penguin42AlanBell: But there are ~11" tablets with detachable keyboards now23:23
AlanBellthere are, but I want a chromebook more than I want an android tablet23:39
penguin42have you noticed all the chromebook keyboards are lower case?23:43
AlanBellcool, no I hadn't23:53
ali1234AlanBell: economists don't read the guardian23:59

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