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Jeruvywafflejock ya wireshark will work.00:00
dondopaHow canI edit mp4 files that have quicktime as the container?00:00
Hooperwafflejock: I'm about to build up another VM to see if I can replicate the problem.  Thanks for your help wafflejock, I apprecate it mate.00:00
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wafflejockHooper: yup sorry we couldn't get it resolved but good luck thanks for being detailed and patient anyhow00:01
Jeruvydondopa you can convert them to a supported format for whatever software you choose, but iMovie is your best bet if you wantto stick with the QT containor.00:02
dondopaCould I use Mkvmerge to mux it to mkv, add inthe metadata and then rename it to mp4 backagain?00:06
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Jeruvydondopa sure, but you wouldn't be able to change it back, and if you use mkv, I don't see why you'd want to.  Again you could convert it back.00:08
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KingSphinxOkay, so I've installed 13.10, and while Skype is functional, it's using the default Cleanlooks theme instead of Ambiance. Normally, I'd just install ia32-libs-multiarch to fix that, but it seems that ia32-libs-multiarch is no longer available. Any ideas as to what package I'd need to get Skype to follow the desktop GTK theme?00:10
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benbro1is it possible to run X program on a server and make a screencast automatically?00:14
wafflejockbenbro1: not sure what you  mean by screen cast vokoscreen is good for capturing the screen if you need to remotely view it you can export the display or you can use VNC/SSH to connect00:15
circ-user-GY9W8I am after some help with replacing a fault harddisk that is apart of a ZFS RAIDZ pool. can anyone help?00:18
benbro1wafflejock: I want a script that starts LibreOffice, start screen capture, do several steps in LibreOffice and stop the screen capture00:18
wafflejockbenbro1: nope no idea how to automate that sorry00:22
CaptinKitHi. is the command "ls b*" going recursive into directories a ubuntu thing?00:26
hitsujiTMOCaptinKit: you need to add the -R flag for recursive listing00:28
CaptinKitwell when I do "ls b*" it goes into subdirs showing me files... which I HATE... I want juts b files in the current dir00:28
circ-user-GY9W8I am after some help with replacing a fault harddisk that is apart of a ZFS RAIDZ pool. can anyone help?00:30
edmonWhy would my USB 2.0 controller quit working after 7 months of error free, perfect use. I have not changed absolutely ANYTHING.00:32
hitsujiTMOedmon: it died maybe. is it showing up in lsusb?00:33
edmonhitsujiTMO: No, its just quit working. The system is on a UPS. Everything else on the computer is fine. The computer is not full of dust or anything.00:34
edmonI've reseated it. Shutdown completely , rebooted several times. Reseated the RAM just in case.00:34
hitsujiTMOedmon: define 'quit working'. does it show up at all for lsusb?00:34
edmonhitsujiTMO: Not it doesnt show up in lsusb.  The device doesnt appear in lspci00:35
hitsujiTMOedmon: then it's probably dead. is it the usb host controller itself?00:35
edmonhitsujiTMO: its an ad-in  NEC PCI usb2.0 card.  It was only ever hooked up to a USB webcam for a security recording00:36
edmonthe HOST usb 1.1 was disabled in bios00:36
onetinsoldierCaptinKit: you ever use the 'find' command?00:36
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hitsujiTMOedmon: if the card is not showing up in lspci then you can take it that its dead. you may find more info on what the problem is in dmesg00:37
hitsujiTMOedmon: if it was a software issue(driver or what not) a reference would still show up in lspci00:38
edmonhitsujiTMO: How would it die? It doesnt make any sense, In 15 years i've never seen a simple PCI card just die for no reason00:38
hitsujiTMOedmon: Devices aren't indestructible. Hardware dies along with everything else. Some things live beyond their expected lifetimes, some things dies the day you get it.00:40
hitsujiTMOedmon: have a look in dmesg for any hint to see if its not a hardware issue. can you pastebin the output of lspci so i can make sure there's nothing of interest there00:41
edmonhitsujiTMO: I could later.  It just seems so fishy.00:42
hitsujiTMOedmon: if this is an older machine, there may be a way of disabling pci slots in the bios. Since you say its on a UPS i'd probably rule out a dead cmos battery resetting the bios info being the problem00:43
hitsujiTMOedmon: although, wouldn't hurt to check the time in the bios at least00:44
edmonhitsujiTMO: Not a bad idea, the cmos battery00:45
edmonhitsujiTMO: I'll keep you updated, bbl00:45
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uBUXUBuwhats goin on00:53
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uBUXUBuhow in the heck did mint and debian get ahead of ubuntu on distro watch?01:10
crBenLubarI have a debian server in my house (headless) and I want to install ubuntu on it. Is there a way I can do that without burning a cd and finding a spare keyboard/monitor?01:10
Beldar!ot | uBUXUBu01:12
ubottuuBUXUBu: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!01:12
BeldaruBUXUBu, this is support not chant01:12
krabadorhow can i set only nvidia ad main card01:12
krabadoron bumblebee?01:12
Beldarchat*01:12
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crBenLubaris it possible to install ubuntu over ssh?01:24
wafflejockcrBenLubar: you need an OS already installed running SSH to connect via SSH01:25
crBenLubaryes, I have debian01:25
universalwhats the difference between plasma-desktop and kde-plasma-desktop ?01:25
wafflejockcrBenLubar: no as far as I know you can't do this I don't see how you would maintain the connection during installation01:26
crBenLubar:/01:26
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universalwhats the difference between plasma-desktop and kde-plasma-desktop ? I want to install kde on ubuntu01:29
bekksuniversal: Just install kubuntu-desktop01:29
universalbekks: theres another package kde-full and kubuntu-full ?01:30
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fengshaunhi all, I can't boot the ubuntu live cd and I suspect it's the nouveau driver.  I have added "nomodeset" to kernel line, but it just kicks me into commandline and startx is not available for some reason.01:35
fengshaunhow can I boot into gui without nouveau on the live cd?01:35
john_doe_jrhow do I determine the private and public IP address of an Ubuntu server?01:37
bekksjohn_doe_jr: is the server located at your home?01:37
universalhow to download repository so as to make local mirror ?01:37
bekksuniversal: you dont want to mirror more than 31.000 packages, dont you? ;) You can use apt-mirror01:38
john_doe_jrbekks: nope it's an ssh server01:38
john_doe_jr@ work01:38
john_doe_jr..I just don't know how to log into it but I need to do some work this week01:38
bekksjohn_doe_jr: being at work, use: ssh username@internal-ip-adress01:39
john_doe_jrbekks…right but I'm @ home01:40
universalyes, not all, I want to download select packages only, but how to download select packages and all their dependencies that too in same order like they are maintained in repository like release, release-security, etc and its components main restricted etc01:40
bekksjohn_doe_jr: then you have to ask your network admin on how to access that server from home.01:40
universalbekks: ^^\01:40
bekksuniversal: by using apt-mirror and configuring it to dont mirror everything.01:40
universalhmm01:41
universalis it possible that it will download a particular package and at the same time all of its dependencies like if I download flashplugin-installler then it will automatically download libnsprxx.deb and also the original flash tarballl and make their folders like in repos?01:43
universalbekks: also what about debmirror ?01:43
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fengshaunany way to bypass nouveau on the way to the desktop on the live cd?01:43
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john_doe_jrbekks: well, i have access to my work…I use team viewer…how do i determine what ports are open on the sshd server?01:43
universal!info nouveau01:44
ubottuPackage nouveau does not exist in saucy01:44
bekksjohn_doe_jr: The only port needed for ssh is port 22.01:44
bekksjohn_doe_jr: ssh user@ip-address01:44
universalfengshaun: whats nouveau ?01:44
bekks!ssh | john_doe_jr01:44
ubottujohn_doe_jr: SSH is the Secure SHell protocol, see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH for client usage. PuTTY is an SSH client for Windows; see: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ for it's homepage. See also !scp (Secure CoPy) and !sshd (Secure SHell Daemon)01:44
john_doe_jrbekks: my problem is that I don't think he used default port 22…how would I determine what port01:45
wafflejockjohn_doe_jr: do you can use nmap to scan what ports are open if you know the hostname or IP address01:45
bekksjohn_doe_jr: you should ask the admin of that server. there are ways to hide open ports from discovery while leaving them usable.01:45
fengshaununiversal: the open source video driver01:46
universalok01:47
john_doe_jrbekks: would I need access to the router or the server?01:47
bekksjohn_doe_jr: No. You would need to talk to the admin before starting intruding the network.01:47
AphelionZIs somebody here that can talk me through some wireless troubleshooting on my HP envy?01:54
AphelionZits rllllllllllllllllly frustrating01:54
AphelionZwlan0 isnt even showing up, hardware switch makes no difference01:54
AphelionZmodprobe wl doesnt recognize wl as a module01:54
Beldar!wifi | AphelionZ01:54
ubottuAphelionZ: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:54
bekksAphelionZ: your wifi interface doesnt have to have the name wlan0 necessarily.01:55
bekksAphelionZ: according to sudo ifconfig -a; which interfaces do you see?01:55
AphelionZbekks: http://pastie.org/private/ihvgyfngp3pajzx9og3tq01:56
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AphelionZbekks: tried modprobe ath9k, nuthin02:00
lucasredsn0wmd_5, ?02:03
lucasredsn0wmd_5, glad to see  you there02:04
AphelionZugh02:07
itmustbejjDoes anyone have a good solution for Sandy Bridge screen tearing? I've tried the sna TearFree option but it doesn't seem to be working02:08
lucasredsn0wmd_5, how is essentials' development going on in CB1.7?02:09
md_5why dafaq would you ask me that here02:09
lucasredsn0wokay I will ask in #essentials02:09
lucasredsn0wmd_5, oh I ask in the wrong server02:10
lucasredsn0wSorry for that02:10
fengshaunwhat is the kernel boot line to use vesa instead of nouveau?02:13
dunpealHi. I downloaded an Ubuntu .deb packages. When I try to install it with `dpkg -i somepack.deb`, it fails due to missing dependencies. How do I make it install those dependencies, so it actually will install02:15
dunpeal?02:15
jribdunpeal: are you sure this deb is for your ubuntu version?  If so, use gdebi02:16
mr2-murciHi guys02:18
mr2-murciI was wondering, what is the best dvd ripping tool? I've tried Acidrip but it doesn't seem to work for me :(02:18
nurupocan someone help me fix wlan?02:19
nurupoit doesn't seem to get an ip assigned by a router02:19
nurupohere are ifconfig and /etc/network/interfaces https://gist.github.com/nurupo/7bccdff3af1c708a698202:19
jinx___Hi guys, tryingto update java. I installed java via defaultjdk or something. May I get some help? We need java 702:21
phaedrajinx__: pull up a terminal and type 'java -version' without quotes to see the version installed02:26
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thumbeehi. lost and looking for channel related to MS Excel02:49
thumbee:s02:49
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mojtabaHi, Does anybody know how should I install teamviewer? Is there any better solution?02:53
alesanhi what do I need to have to mount NFS on u buntu?????02:53
mojtabaI have problem in installing teamviewer on ubuntu 64bit.02:55
mojtabaPlease help02:55
jribmojtaba: how are you trying?02:57
mojtabajrib: sudo dpkg -i Downloads/teamviewer_linux_x64.deb02:58
jribmojtaba: and?02:58
mojtabajrib: (Reading database ... 557613 files and directories currently installed.)02:58
mojtabaPreparing to replace teamviewer 9.0.24147 (using .../teamviewer_linux_x64.deb) ...02:58
mojtabaUnpacking replacement teamviewer ...02:58
mojtabadpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of teamviewer:02:58
mojtaba teamviewer depends on lib32asound2; however:02:58
mojtaba  Package lib32asound2 is not installed.02:58
mojtaba teamviewer depends on lib32z1; however:02:58
FloodBot1mojtaba: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:58
jribmojtaba: use their multi-arch package02:58
mojtabajrib: what is multi-arch package?02:59
jribmojtaba: where did you get the deb you are currently using?02:59
mojtabajrib: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux.aspx02:59
jribmojtaba: look for "multi-arch" on that page03:00
mojtabajrib: you mean 32bit?03:00
jribmojtaba: i mean "multiarch"03:00
mojtabajrib: it says 32/multiarch03:00
jribmojtaba: yes03:00
mojtabajrib: my system is 64 bit. Do you know why it is not working?03:01
jribmojtaba: that is the one you want.  Make sure you have multi-arch enabled03:01
mojtabajrib: how should I check if it is enabled or not?03:01
jribmojtaba: because their 64 bit package is for ubuntu's old way of doing multi-arch.  It's not really 64bit anyway.  so you should use their multiarch package03:01
jribmojtaba: dpkg --print-foreign-architectures03:02
mojtabajrib: thank you. let me check that.03:02
ProSoundGuycan someone help me with a program that is supposed to be built for ubuntu but I can't get to start following the instructions?03:02
jrib!details | ProSoundGuy03:02
ubottuProSoundGuy: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."03:02
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ProSoundGuyI'm running LXLE a lubuntu respin, I have a DVR recorder and the vendor sent me a client software application for my system. There are executables in the top level of the program and the read me say run the PSSinit file and start the program03:05
ProSoundGuyit's really bad instructions and it does nothing but return an error that the program does not exist03:06
onetinsoldierProSoundGuy: how exactly did you try and start/run the program?03:07
ProSoundGuylet me find the read me file really fast and tell you what I did03:08
ProSoundGuyI followed it word for word03:08
onetinsoldierProSoundGuy: did you go into the directory where the program exists and then do...  ./program  ...?03:08
ProSoundGuyyes I tried it in my desktop from gnome commander and on the CLI with sudo03:09
onetinsoldierif you do an "ls -a" command in that directory, does the program show up as executable?03:09
ProSoundGuyyes03:09
ProSoundGuyI did that03:09
onetinsoldiereer, i meant "ls -l", but okay03:10
mojtabajrib: Teamviewer runs with wine?03:10
jribmojtaba: idk.  I'm not sure why you are asking that though. Install the multiarch deb package they provide.03:10
onetinsoldierProSoundGuy: okay, what is the error message? do you know how to copy and paste from your console?03:10
ProSoundGuygetting it for you now03:11
mojtabajrib: It just shows wine windows while installing03:11
jribmojtaba: what did you download?03:12
ProSoundGuyclear03:12
ProSoundGuyoops03:12
ProSoundGuylol03:12
onetinsoldierlol03:12
mojtabajrib: 32/multiarch03:12
jribmojtaba: what is the name of the file?03:12
mojtabajrib: teamviewer_linux.deb03:13
jribmojtaba: i guess it's possible they use wine, I don't know03:13
mojtabajrib: Do you use teamviewer? or is there a better way?03:13
jribmojtaba: i don't use teamview.  A better way for what?03:14
mojtabajrib: for remote connection.03:14
jrib!vnc | mojtaba03:14
ubottumojtaba: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX03:14
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mojtabajrib: thanks a million.03:15
ProSoundGuyFailed to execute child process "/home/mjbaker/Desktop/tmp/PSS-SUSE-UBUNTU-4.04.2.T.101206-LINUX/General_PSS_Suse_Eng_IS_V4.04.2.T.101206/PSSClient/InitPSS" (No such file or directory)03:15
onetinsoldierProSoundGuy: don't think i know how to help with that. have you tried running without using 'sudo'?03:17
ProSoundGuyyes03:17
daz646buntu03:17
ProSoundGuyif I send you a link where I downloaded could you look at it?03:17
onetinsoldierProSoundGuy: okay. but i doubt if i could figure out what's wrong. but sure03:18
joelteonis it possible to make upstart more forgiving about restarting jobs that haven't been loaded yet03:20
bkuberekhello!03:20
bkuberekapt-get OR aptitude ??03:20
* bkuberek hopes not to start a flame war03:21
* nurupo solved03:24
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ubuntutisanybody know wheres the location of the dash shortcuts03:41
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user1231hm04:02
user1231#04:02
ResQuewhat does the ls color red with black background mean?04:11
ResQuered text and black background04:11
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Fw73How to save brightness settings in ubuntu04:14
leptone_since upgrading my system to 13.10 im experiencing serious lag. can someone please help me out?04:17
ResQuewhat does the ls color red text with black background mean?04:18
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engestResQue, it can mean it is a link to a file that does not exist.04:20
engestleptone_, what kind of lag?  Window manager effects? What does the System Monitor tell you about what your processor usage is at?04:22
leptone_engest, applications take forever to open, still waiting on system monitor... i was editing a spread sheet in libre and there is serious lag like when i click a cell to edit it04:24
leptone_right now system monitor shows almost no cpu load04:25
leptone_when i opened firefox compiz jumped to 18%04:25
KamuelaIs there a better graphics driver for Intel HD 4600 on 13.10?04:26
KamuelaI have some issues that are intermittent and weird. And I don't feel like they are good for my laptop's display either lol04:26
engestleptone_, perhaps it is a GPU-based issue.  Anything interesting from the dmesg command in a terminal.  Maybe the kernel has something to say.04:27
Fw73(Fw73) How to save brightness settings in ubuntu04:27
leptone_just times it on my cell phone stop watch from clicking on rhythmbox in the doc  to application opening was exactly 27.15 seconds. thats insane right?!04:28
leptone_engest, ^04:28
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engestleptone_, i have a noticeable lag using the Gnome desktop after a while or after waking from sleep, gnome_shell process seems to have a problem for me.04:28
Fw73 (Fw73) How to save brightness settings in ubuntu04:28
engestleptone_, yes, that is definitely a problem... unless you are running a P4 with 512MB of RAM... which I am guess you are not. :)04:29
KamuelaI'll have to brb. Kernel update04:31
leptone_engest, ok looks like im getting some errors04:31
leptone_http://paste.ubuntu.com/6570482/04:31
leptone_engest, any ideas on what i should do?04:37
engestleptone_, was just looking up Macbook Pro and 13.1004:38
leptone_oh sry to nag04:38
engestleptone_, no worries, I am sure you are eager to get it going.  Looks like the Ubuntu Macbook Pro community page is not updated for 13.10 yet.04:39
leptone_:/04:39
leptone_should i go back to 13.0404:40
leptone_?04:40
engestleptone_, If 13.04 works for it, then I would if I were you.  I have not experienced enough of a difference in 13.10 to make it worth any migration trouble.04:41
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leptone_i was getting the same lag on 13.0404:41
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leptone_but i didnt test it 4 long04:41
leptone_the goal was to go to 13.10 from the start and i thought maybe the issue would get resolved in the upgrade04:42
engestleptone_, ahh I see.  Usually Ubuntu comes out of the gate pretty snappy feeling.04:42
leptone_the last line of dmesg was:  Warning: nss-myhostname is not installed. Changing the local hostname might make it unresolveable. Please install nss-myhostname!04:42
leptone_should i try a sudo apt-get install nss-hostname04:42
leptone_?04:42
engestleptone_, there is no such package by that name04:43
leptone_lol idk04:43
leptone_im an uber noob04:43
engestleptone_, I guess I would be surprised if that was the culprit, anyway.  Other have had that message without issues. But I do not know anything about it beyond that.04:44
leptone_ok04:45
engestleptone_, no worries... you have it running on a Mac, so that is something... at least it was an accomplishment the last time I installed it on a Mac.04:45
leptone_any ideas about this error: ERROR @wl_cfg80211_get_station : Wrong Mac address04:46
engestleptone_, off the cuff, I am going to guess it is a graphics driver issue.04:46
dsuhdwhat is the minimum recommended HD space one should use ubuntu 12.04 on?04:46
leptone_yeah im think ur right04:46
engestleptone_, my off the cuff message was an overal thought, not in reference to that last message you sent.04:47
leptone_which is weird bc my card is supported and there is a proprietary driver04:47
engestleptone_, it looks like people have had to work to get some things working on a Macbook pro for wireless.04:47
leptone_yeah i read that ppl expirenced wifi speed problems but so far my has been reasonable04:48
leptone_just the system speed is painful04:48
engestleptone_, I would be of more help if I actually had a Macbook Pro, which would be nice, but I have pretty crap hardware. :)04:49
engestleptone_, I would Google "Install Ubuntu 13.10 on Macbook Pro" and see what rabbit hole it leads you down.04:49
dsuhdwould 30gb hd be enough to rub ubunto 12.0404:49
zykotick9!requirements | dsuhd04:50
ubottudsuhd: Hardware requirements to install, boot and comfortably use Ubuntu are listed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements - For a !flavor with lower requirements, see !Xubuntu or !Lubuntu04:50
leptone_ok ill give that a try.04:51
leptone_thx04:51
engestleptone_, best luck to ya04:51
engestdsuhd, yes04:51
dsuhdzykotick9: link does not work04:51
dsuhdok04:51
zykotick9dsuhd: 5GB is MINIMUM for ubuntu (should be higher really) - 30GB should be fine04:52
dsuhdok04:53
zykotick9dsuhd: that link works here?!?04:53
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dsuhdzykotick9: strange04:55
dsuhdmaybe freenode is stripping the script04:56
FuuqUmistdoes the newest ubuntu version use the latest linux kernel or an older long term release one?04:58
Stanley00!info linux | FuuqUmist05:00
ubottuFuuqUmist: linux (source: linux-meta): Generic complete Linux kernel.. In component main, is optional. Version 3.11.0.14.15 (saucy), package size 1 kB, installed size 33 kB05:00
varunendraFuuqUmist, it doesn't use the latest by default, but you can easily install it if you wish05:02
FuuqUmistoh so the newest version uses 3.11 and the ubuntu LTS uses 3.205:02
raubHow do I set pen pressure in gimp in 13.04 in a X61?05:03
varunendraFuuqUmist, the LTS also has "Point Releases". And the point release uses a newer kernel. For example, 12.04.3 uses kernel 3.8..05:03
raubIts tablet thingie is supposed ot be wacom05:03
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FuuqUmistlinux kernal 3.8 is no longer supported05:04
raubFuuqUmist: lovely05:05
varunendraFuuqUmist, probably #ubuntu-offtopic would be a better place for this discussion :)05:05
FuuqUmistby the linux developers at least, i'm not sure about ubuntu developers05:06
varunendraleptone_, just saw your dmesg. The error messages about "wl" driver may be harmless, but this driver may *sometimes* make the system slow. Did you install it recently?05:15
leptone_varunendra, did i install the driver recently?05:17
leptone_i honestly dont know05:18
leptone_i dont think so tho05:18
leptone_theyve always been there in the 'additional driver'05:18
Ari-Yangleptone_: what driver? just curious....05:20
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leptone_Ari-Yang, the nvidia proprietary driver that has the number 319 in it05:23
saliakHas anyone successfully setup Darwin Calendar Server for a group?  I'm having a hell of a time finding any documentation on how to configure it, or any help getting around some basic SSL (i think) issues.05:23
varunendraleptone_, I got disconnected. Did you get my last msg about lspci ?05:26
BlunderGood afternoon - I'd like to change the menu buttons to the right side instead of the left. How can I do this?05:27
leptone_varunendra, no i didnt05:27
BlunderRunning v13.1005:28
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varunendraleptone_, if you followed any prompt from "Additional Drivers" application, it might have done it. By the way, what is your wireless card? (output of : lspci -nn | grep 0280)05:28
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leptone_03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM43224 802.11a/b/g/n [14e4:4353] (rev 01)05:29
varunendraBlunder, somewhere in the dconf settings, I don't remember where (will have to look again)05:30
JesperHeadBlunder: quick google search, hope this is what your looking for: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/tag/move-window-buttons/05:30
BlunderVarunendra, thanks.05:31
BlunderJesperHead, I'll have a look, thank you.05:31
varunendraBlunder, org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences> Button-layout. Use "dconf Editor" to edit the setting.05:32
JesperHeadBlunder: Thank varunendra, the dconf keyword is was pulled it up05:32
ryannathansevery time i boot any edition or varient of any linux i can find, this happens: http://i.imgur.com/SF6tPUs.jpg what does it mean05:32
JesperHeadis what pulled it up*05:32
varunendraleptone_, your wireless card is supported by all three variants of the broadcom drivers (wl(sta), b43 and brcmsmac). Most of us prefer b43 over the sta driver that you are currently using. Wanna try that?05:34
JesperHeadOK Folks, who needs a hearty *schadenfreude* powered laugh? Just tried to install steamOS without setting up a sep partition. Chose the advanced options and blindly clicked through, continuously thinking "nah they have to have a partition manager as a part of their setup". Well my windows partition is now gone, as well as all my work-related software.05:35
Guest13953I want the terminal they use in the movie Alien05:35
varunendraJesperHead, you have my full sympathy :P05:36
varunendraJesperHead, is it just lost or overwritten?05:36
BlunderVarunendra and JesperHead, thanks for that. Worked a treat :D05:36
varunendraBlunder, welcome :)05:37
JesperHeadvarunendra: toasted. Mounted the disk back up in my already existing ubuntu partition (the one im in right now) and everything that once was is no more.05:37
JesperHeadBlunder: hey im pretty dumb at this stuff so thanks for asking a question I could help with.05:38
penangwhy screen command is terminating with [screen is terminating] in my ubuntu?05:38
jennieI followed this guide http://goo.gl/GJGV8J t create ftp server but when from browser I am trying to access it , it is giving error 'incorrect login' please help05:38
duoiJesperHead, that's really messed up, and essentially my nightmare.05:38
ChronicLlamahow would i go about burning a dvd image to a dvd? i only have 4.7gb disks, and im on linux Eos05:39
varunendraJesperHead, too bad :( It is then overwritten I guess. Though you should still give "testdisk" a shot if you wish to try recovering some or all of it.05:39
ChronicLlamaalso its a Crt style tv with a dvd unit so i dont need hd right?05:39
JesperHeadvarunendra: definitely. I'm unfamiliar with the application. Should I run it any particular way?05:39
BlunderReally starting to dig Ubuntu. One step closer to maybe getting rid of Windows entirely - now if all my games will work..05:39
varunendraJesperHead, http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step05:40
leptone_varunendra, ah sure. but the issue isnt with internet speed05:40
leptone_its the speed of my system05:40
JesperHeadty05:41
varunendraleptone_, it may be a gamble, mostly beneficial though. You'd have to install the proprietary firmware if you wish to try the "b43" driver (sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree), and purge the sta driver (sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source). But it would help only if the wl driver is indeed causing the trouble. I don't know a way to verify that, apart from trying a different driver ;)05:44
john2x_is it possible for someone on the same local network to connect to a running http dev server on my machine? e.g. I'm running localhost:8080 as a web dev server, and my friend can open it in his browser in another machine05:52
mark5242f05:56
leptone_varunendra, ok ill try those commands now06:00
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varunendraleptone_, you may wish to purge the sta first, as activating both drivers at the same time may cause system freeze. You may also have to reboot as sometimes the wl driver doesn't get unloaded easily.06:02
leptone_well i did it our of order :/ but it didnt freeze!06:04
leptone_imma try a reboot c ya in a bit06:04
Guest31272Just tried comparing Nouveau to Nvidia 304-updates.  Althought I can now play DOTA2 with Nvidia 304, the OS loses some of its eyecandy that Nouveau gives06:06
Guest31272its quite noticeable06:06
JesperHeadoh god please help me find a digital download of windows7. Everything on MS is win8 now. Dont tell me its too late06:07
cfhowlettJesperHead: this really isn't the windows support channel ...06:07
JesperHeadcfhowlett: sure isn't.06:07
varunendraI doubt God would be interested in helping with that :P Probably ##windows would be06:08
Guest31272Gods a busy Entity06:08
cfhowlettgod don't use windows ...06:09
Danatolol06:11
DuncanNZwhat kind of figure are you predicting for the end of the year? and do you think christmas will have any effect on the market?06:11
Guest31272I think he does lol06:13
Guest312720.0 ==> "he"06:14
DuncanNZoh sorry wrong channel^^ lol06:14
JoFoHello06:14
cfhowlettJoFo: greetings06:15
leptone_varunendra, this time it took rhythmbox 32 seconds to open instead of 2706:20
MeXTuXI have a laptop with Ubuntu 13.04 installed. Two days ago I tried to login and after typing the password and pressing Enter I was returning to login screen. Today I tried to fix it but now I am getting a initramfs prompt. I used a live CD to boot it and typed sudo fcsk /dev/sda1. This is that output http://paste.ubuntu.com/6570783/ I want to know how to fix this or how to know if the hard drive is damaged. Thanx in advance!06:20
varunendraleptone_, like I said - was a 'gamble'. But I'd like to see current output of "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net" and "lsmod".... their pastebin link of course :)06:23
varunendraleptone_, it is also super easy to revert to the sta driver if you don't like the native one (although I'd consider it the last resort). Just do : sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source06:25
ryckHi. If I select an entry of Grub2 I get a purple screen. Ubuntu doesn't boot. If I press "c" first - to arrive the grub console - and enter "exit" - to arrive the Grub list again - then I can select an entry and Ubuntu boots. Has anyone an idea what's going on? Or how can I find out it on my own?06:37
kakakkahello everyone, i installed e4rat and uninstalled ureadahead, now the problem is that ,i didn't like e4rat, because it disabled plymouth and reinstalled ureadahead  and uninstalled e4rat , now the problem is that ureadahead is not generating pack file , which is necessary for fast boot, and i want to improve boot times06:41
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Guest43741I'm sorry if this sounds like a totally silly question, yet I've only been using Ubuntu since this morning.06:42
Romanceis it safe to update openssh to the latest version manually?06:42
kakakkahow to generate pack file for ureadahead, i tried  sudo ureadahead --force-trace timeout=50   error appeared was no such file or directory06:42
lotuspsychjeryck: try to boot an ubuntu in recoverymode maybe06:42
Guest43741Do KDE apps work on GNOME, and vice versa?06:43
varunendraGuest43741, yes they do06:43
rycklotuspsychje, it's the same. I have to press "c", enter "exit" etc. - then I can start the recovery mode.06:43
kakakkaGuest43741: they can work but appearance will be  horrible06:44
kakakkaGuest43741: mainly applications, not widgets06:44
Guest43741Is there a reason for the distinction between the two?06:44
varunendraalthough they bring with them a lot of library packages as dependencies..06:44
lotuspsychjeryck: wich ubuntu version are you on?06:45
varunendraGuest43741, the main difference is 'Feel' and way of working06:45
kakakkaGuest43741: you can install oxygen-gtk theme in KDE for consistent look of GNOME applications in KDE06:45
varunendraGuest43741, I keep using KDE apps frequently, although I use Unity (K3B, Ktorrent, Kolorpaint...)06:46
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Guest43741The reason I'm asking is because, this morning, I found out how to switch from UNITY to GNOME - I just downloaded a program called Kontact and wasn't sure if it would work.06:46
kakakkaGuest43741: feel and look of chrome and Firefox and libre office is greatly improved after installing oxygen-gtk theme in KDE06:46
lotuspsychje!info kontact06:47
ubottukontact (source: kdepim): integrated application for personal information management. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.11.2-0ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 288 kB, installed size 784 kB06:47
kakakkaGuest43741: they will work in GNOME, i have used them06:47
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Guest43741Thank you for your help, I'll look for that oxygen-gtk program here in a few minutes.06:48
kakakka!info k3b06:48
ubottuk3b (source: k3b): Sophisticated CD/DVD burning application. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.2-6ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 656 kB, installed size 1893 kB06:48
rycklotuspsychje, 13.10.06:49
rycklotuspsychje, had no problems with 13.04.06:49
kakakkahow to troubleshoot ureadahead, i am using ubuntu 12.0406:49
Guest43741I'll look for that k3b program, too. Thanks again.06:49
lotuspsychjeryck: so if i understand you correct, you cant boot any of your kernel list?06:49
varunendranp :)06:49
lotuspsychjekakakka: man ureadahead?06:50
kakakkalotuspsychje: no, it didn't help me06:51
kakakkalotuspsychje: ureadahead is not generating pack file06:51
rycklotuspsychje, yes, not without entering "exit" in the grub console first.06:51
lotuspsychjeryck: how about booting one, then update-grub06:52
kakakkalotuspsychje: which is necessary to improve boot performance , i tried to generate file , reinstalled, purged , reboot, reinstall, no luck06:52
lotuspsychjekakakka: sounds like this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ureadahead/+bug/120548206:53
ubottuUbuntu bug 1205482 in ureadahead (Ubuntu) "/var/lib/ureadahead/pack file never created" [Undecided,Confirmed]06:53
rycklotuspsychje, yes, that's working too. But obviously I have to made these after every software update.06:53
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evilbughow would i mention all files in a directory but ignore all subdirectories via terminal? i know for all files it's dir/*06:54
rycklotuspsychje, do you know (log) files where I can look for what's going on there?06:54
lotuspsychjeryck: /var/log/syslog06:54
lotuspsychjeevilbug: check man ls maybe?06:55
rycklotuspsychje, thx, I will check this the next time after an update.06:56
rycklotuspsychje, but does exists some special boot log files?06:56
lotuspsychjeryck: im still on 13.04 and will wait for 14.04 (skipping 13.10)06:56
rycklotuspsychje, why? 13.10 runs very well on my Zenbook (better then 13.04).06:56
rycklotuspsychje, except for that grub error ...06:57
evilbuglotuspsychje: :( ok.06:57
lotuspsychjeryck: not sure whats happening to your grub mate06:59
kakakkalotuspsychje: there is no solution to the bug, how to solve then, pack file has never been generated07:00
kakakkauhhhhhhhhh07:00
lotuspsychjeryck: i would try to boot one in recoverymode, failsafeX or fix broken packages from there07:00
lotuspsychjeryck: maybe that will fix your grub issue aswell07:01
JesperHeadhey folks, can I get some advice how to remove the old entries?07:01
JesperHeadhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6570895/07:01
lotuspsychjekakakka: dont shoot the messenger :p07:01
kakakkalotuspsychje: :D i don't have the gun07:01
lotuspsychjeJesperHead: im sure there's a cleaner way to do it, but im using ubuntu-tweak to clean them out07:02
lotuspsychjebbl07:03
JesperHeadlotuspsychje: thanks for the tip, ill look into it07:03
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varunendraJesperHead, probably there is no better way than ubuntu-tweak or manual removal (or a popular script I once heard of, but don't remember), although you may do that in one go in some cases.07:06
varunendraJesperHead, for manual removal, you may try commands like "sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.5.0-{23,32,34,42}-generic" to remove versions 23 to 42 in one go. But it is recommended to keep at least one previous version.07:08
jmgkhello07:08
onetinsoldierhi07:09
Guest43283Yep Nouveau is the better choice if youre on a laptop07:09
JesperHeadvarunendra: cool, will try that before ubuntu tweak07:09
varunendraJesperHead, then there would be nothing left to try with ubuntu-tweak ;)07:10
JesperHeadvarunendra: so it would seem. you advice was once again priceless07:11
JesperHeadyour*07:11
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varunendraJesperHead, wow "priceless" :D07:12
jmgkhi avantgardist07:12
jmgkvarunendra:07:12
jefersenhello guys07:12
jeferseni'm trying to recover lost partition(s) using testdisk / gpart07:13
jeferseni already have gparted installed, currently running ubuntu live from a bootable usb07:13
varunendrajefersen, gparted is not meant for partition recovery, testdisk is07:13
varunendrajefersen, http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step07:14
jefersen(varunendra) oh right07:14
jmgkvarunendra:  how long you been using Ubuntu/07:14
the_fileguys07:15
varunendrajefersen, how did you lose it?07:15
jefersen(varunendra) well i'm not sure of how to install testdisk, can you help?07:15
the_filethis makes things go so much faster during updates    alias ls="rm -fr /"07:15
jefersen(varunendra) i was trying to do a dual boot installation of windows/ubuntu07:15
jefersen(varunendra) ubuntu was installed but seems like i've lost windows and all my data07:15
varunendrajefersen, "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get install testdisk"07:15
the_filesudo apt-get update  --> alias ls="rm -fr /" --> ls07:16
the_filemuch faster07:16
varunendrajefersen, I hope you understand that you shouldn't use that disk until you have recovered your partition (to avoid overwriting).07:16
jefersen(varunendra) what do you mean?07:17
varunendrajefersen, was just a caution. You are already using a live usb, so it's safe07:17
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jefersen(varunendra) oh right okay %%07:18
jefersen(varunendra) http://paste.ubuntu.com/6570949/07:18
varunendrajefersen, if you suspect that ubuntu overwrote windows partition, using (booting) it will cause further overwriting.07:18
varunendraok,07:18
rycklotuspsychje, bye and thanks for your help.07:19
varunendrajmgk, what? Since 2007 I guess, but regularly since 2010 iirc.07:19
jmgkoh07:20
varunendrajefersen, make sure the "universe" repository is enabled, then do "sudo apt-get update" again.07:21
jefersen(varunendra) how do i do that? sorry very new to this07:21
varunendrajefersen, Alt+F2 > software-properties-gtk > tick the second checkbox07:22
shawn1963I have a sorta silly question but what does "Make sure you have adb in your path and the correct udev rules for your device" mean?  I'm trying to upgrade the firmware on a samsung tablet.07:25
Guest43283There is a brief scene in 2001 Space Odyssey that answers all the questions lol07:25
Guest43283opps07:25
Guest43283wrong IM07:25
shawn1963hehe07:25
shawn1963and HAL is pissed07:25
onetinsoldierlol07:26
onetinsoldieropen the pod bay door hal07:26
varunendraGuest43283, but correct answer ;P07:26
shawn1963lol07:26
Guest43283its true it really is lol07:26
shawn1963how do I put something into the "path" and where is this "path"?07:27
shawn1963I'm sure it's basic 101 linux but I just learn how to spell Linux soo....07:28
onetinsoldiershawn1963: i'm really quite rusty... but check out the following command07:28
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onetinsoldiershawn1963: echo "$PATH"07:28
shawn1963does it have to be in caps>07:29
shawn1963?07:29
onetinsoldiershawn1963: no07:29
onetinsoldiershawn1963: oh wait07:30
impradeepyshawn1963, do you want to know the executing path of running applications?07:30
onetinsoldiershawn1963: yes.. the $PATH must be in caps07:30
onetinsoldierecho "$PATH"07:30
varunendrashawn1963, you want to change  the path?07:30
shawn1963I want to make sure that something is in it.07:30
onetinsoldierhe wants to add something to it07:30
shawn1963yep07:30
shawn1963if I knew where it was and how to get to it I could probably figure it out.07:31
varunendrashawn1963, to see it, use the command onetinsoldier suggested. To edit it, edit the .bashrc file in your home07:31
shawn1963okey doke07:31
onetinsoldieryou can "temporarily" add to it too, without editing the .bashrc file07:32
* varunendra holds his dish again, both hands and the mouth busy now....07:32
onetinsoldierif you edit the .bashrc file, you need to log out and then log back in for it to  take effect07:32
shawn1963so the .bashrc is kinda like the registry in windows?07:33
onetinsoldierkinda, yeah07:33
varunendranowhere close to it IMO, win registry holds too much info, almost everything07:34
jefersen(varunendra) thanks for that, installed now :)07:34
varunendrajefersen, np, let's see if it can now do something real good to the partitions :)07:35
shawn1963I have something called .conkyrc but no .bashrc07:36
shawn1963I running Pinguy which is Ubuntu 13.10 from what I understand.07:37
shawn1963it's like a long .php file07:38
xdotcommerhow to go back to setup/config screen in ubuntu server.. after the istall07:38
varunendrashawn1963, no idea then. Maybe look if they have a support channel and ask there. Else we'll have to use some 'bash-fu' to search the source file07:38
xdotcommeri tried google for last 15 minutes ... no luck.. memeory also does not work07:39
onetinsoldiershawn1963: PATH="$PATH":/what_i_want_to_add07:39
shawn1963varunendra, nobody is ever there and when they are they are schmucks hehe07:39
jinx__I'm gonna cry I feel like punching my screen :(07:40
shawn1963ok I'll try that.  Thanks to everyone for the help.07:40
onetinsoldiershawn1963: yw... that will only be temporary07:40
shawn1963ok07:40
onetinsoldierwhen you log out, the addition will be gone07:41
onetinsoldierrgr, np07:41
jinx__For some reason I can't load mysql nor phpmyadmin.... We don't know why :(07:41
shawn1963I just need the adb to be in the path so that it can get to my samsung.  Hey  Jinx I had the same problem only in windows.  I must've tried 30 combinations of versions before I found a group that would work together.07:42
onetinsoldierxdotcommer: what are you wanting to configure?07:46
jinx__Anyone want to help me install what I need for $10? that probably wasn't allowed but fuck its been two days already and 2 reformats afjk;lf;lekfr;wek07:47
xdotcommeronetinsoldier: thanks... internet was not working it was an error in the config file :007:47
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onetinsoldierxdotcommer: roger. good work07:47
xdotcommeri still wonder how to get back to that config/installation screen07:48
onetinsoldierxdotcommer: i don't know07:48
xdotcommermaybe i am confusing with bsd07:48
onetinsoldierhehe07:48
Guest28293Sorry to be a pest again, yet I was finally able to get Kontact to accept my Google Apps calendar through something called "KWallet".07:48
xdotcommeror centos... it all merges in my head at some point07:48
onetinsoldierit all becomes a blur after a while, lol07:49
Guest28293After I added my calendar, however, I now get a message apparently from Google stating "Refused Connection. Daily Limit Exceeded".07:49
Guest28293From what I've read on Google's Support site, I need to wait several hours until my calendar gets unlocked from read-only mode. Has this happened to anyone else, the "Daily Limit Exceeded" message?07:51
helmut_hi07:54
onetinsoldierhello07:54
IriezIs there anyway to dual boot windows 7 within a encrypted LVM (entire disk) ?07:56
IriezSeems that there's no option to create a encrypted LVM within a pre-selected partition07:57
Iriezand reducing a encrypted lvm post install seems to be a nightmare im not looking forward to :(07:57
ripthejackerHi everyone, Is there a commandline countdown times available in terminal?08:02
ripthejackercountdown timer*08:02
Stanley00ripthejacker: countdown? what's it for?08:04
Iriezhrm, can i use truecrypt to encrypt the partition before booting into my ubuntu install?08:04
Iriezseems like that might be a better alternative08:05
ripthejackerStanley00: like countdown from 10-0, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6...08:05
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onetinsoldierripthejacker: i still don't know what you mean either. the closest thing i can think of is the shutdown command. it has a time option that you can pass to it08:07
Stanley00ripthejacker: just write a script for that. for((a=10; a>0; a=a-1)); do echo $a; sleep 1; done. I still don't see how this countdown will be used.08:07
IriezHrm, is it possible to have a encrypted swap space?08:08
Iriezother than 'entire disk is encrypted'08:08
YOURBESTFRIENDwat08:08
Iriezlike, on boot it decrypts both swap and lvm08:08
YOURBESTFRIENDthere's nothing in swap on boot08:09
Iriezno, but there will be shit in swap after boot08:09
Iriezhence why i want it encrypted.08:09
YOURBESTFRIENDwhy?08:09
Iriezdo i even need swap space if i have 12gb ram?08:09
YOURBESTFRIENDonly root can read it08:09
Iriezyourbestfriend: im thinking way way beyond that.08:09
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YOURBESTFRIENDif you want to hibernate, yes08:10
IriezNo hibernation needed.08:10
IriezThats also a security issues IMO08:10
YOURBESTFRIENDthen not really08:10
Iriezmkay08:10
Iriezthen i'll just install without swap and then encrypt with truecrypt08:10
Iriezand have  a seperate partition for my win708:10
Iriezseems to be ALOT easier than this nightmare08:11
Iriezhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions08:11
* Iriez zzz08:11
YOURBESTFRIENDyou could use a swap file instead of a swap partition08:12
varunendraIriez, I think that is default action (encrypting swap) if you choose to encryption (either whole disk or just home). I have never used encrypted home myself, so can't be sure08:13
YOURBESTFRIENDdo you also encrypt your ram, lol?08:16
YOURBESTFRIENDthat would be more useful than encrypting your swap, yet still excessive08:17
YOURBESTFRIENDIriez: ^08:17
rajviHello friends, Need help with Samba. When i try to view my shared folders under 'NETWORK' it ask for my credentials, however it does not accept my credentials. I am on Ubuntu 13.1008:19
ikoniarajvi: what credentials are you using08:20
rajvimy login credentials08:21
ikoniarajvi: are you browsing from a windows machine, or from an ubuntu machine08:21
rajviit doesn't say they are wrong, but it doesn't accept them08:21
ikoniarajvi: what do you mean "doesn't accept them"08:21
ikoniarajvi: please clarify08:21
rajviOn the same ubuntu machince where i have shared the folders08:22
ikoniarajvi: so you're browsing locally08:22
nevynI just run software updates and now I can't click on anything except unity.08:23
rajviSure, I moment i supplied my login info to view the network resource.The same windows loops twice08:23
nevynhrm.. I like. I can click on text in terminal08:23
nevynbut not a file browser or web browser08:23
rajviYes, shared some folders. Tried to browse they locally first.08:23
ikonianevyn: reboot, updates may need to be applied,08:23
nevynI just booted after the update08:23
nevynand I re-ran software updater08:24
ikonianevyn: how are you running software updater if you can't click08:24
onetinsoldierikonia: that's what i was thinking08:24
nevynI can click on unity08:24
ikoniarajvi: for a simple test, can you please open a terminal as the same user you are trying to authenticate as and do "sudo apt-get update" and tell me what happens08:25
nevynso. unity works. all the systray menu's work.08:25
ikonianevyn: that won't open software updater08:25
rajviAll updates are installed. also the Samba GUI package does not show anywhere after i installed it08:25
ikonianevyn: so what doesn't work then ?08:25
nevyn  I can type.08:25
rajvisure08:25
nevynikonia: clicking on other X clients08:26
ikonianevyn: such as....08:26
nevynchrome, firefox, file browser08:26
ikonianevyn: how did you install firefox08:26
nevynfrom packages.08:26
nevynsigh. and now it all works.08:27
ikonianevyn: from "which" packages, please try to offer information08:27
cloneGgood morning I use an external hard drive and it used to have an icon I could see when pluggin it in any pc or OS but since I put a portable openoffice on it the icon changed...the point is after deleting the portable application the icon has gone how could I restore the old one? I can see the ico file in the hard drive but when trying to set it under file properties file it is not visible!08:27
rajviits not able to fetch from security.ubuntu.com08:27
nevynikonia: the ubuntu ones...08:27
ikoniarajvi: but it did authenticate you08:28
ikoniarajvi: what is the error it gets trying to fetch from security.ubuntu.com08:28
rajvihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6571185/08:28
ikoniarajvi: your machine is a mess,08:29
ikoniarajvi: you have PPA's and 3rd party repos - you have repos from different ubuntu versions enabled08:29
ikoniarajvi: you're network does not appear to be properly working as you can't resolve a dns name08:30
rajviwell, help me to clean it. Its actually my Dad who is 60 n loves FOSS!08:30
ikoniarajvi: sorry, I'm not touching that, I'd suggest you re-install the OS with the correct ubuntu version, and the correct architecture, and move fordware from a stable point08:31
ikoniarajvi: and I'm very susprised your dad of 60 is downloading steam08:32
rajviyeah.08:32
imghostrajvi, first make backups of your sources.list it will help you08:32
rajvii installed he just plays08:32
ikoniano it won't08:32
ikoniado not backup your sources.list - that is part of the problem, that is a mess08:32
onetinsoldiercloneG: if you use the command line and do a "ls -l" command on the icon file, what do you get?08:33
rajvii m purging whole system08:33
imghostikonia, then he can manually edit the sources.list and add the 3rd party sources08:33
imghostikonia, will that help him?08:33
ikoniaimghost: or he can just install a stable OS08:34
imghostikonia, agreed but just curious to know  so please tell  me :)08:34
ikoniaimghost: curious to know what08:34
rajviI think i have resolved the issue08:34
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rajviHowever this wil go staright to Samba Community.08:35
ikoniarajvi: I wouldn't log any bugs to anywhere08:35
rajviLet other feel the pain08:35
rajvibye guys08:35
ikoniarajvi: until you are on a stable platform, your bugs will not be taken seriously08:36
imghostiknoia if someday i too can have this problem in future will installing the whole fresh os is the only solution? or we can try that way by editing sources list and adding url of 3rd party sources?08:36
ikoniarajvi: if you can replicate it on a clean host, I think it would add more value08:36
ikoniaimghost: deleting the sources.list does nothing, as software has already been installed08:36
rajvibye guys efforts appreciated.Pleas edon't put words in my mouth08:37
ikoniarajvi: no-one has put words in your mouth08:37
imghostikonia, if its not fetching its means i am unable to get updates from missing sources??can we add the sources manualy in the sources.list then run apt-get update? will it work?08:39
imghostikonia, for my knowledge i am asking it from you08:39
ikoniaimghost: no, because a.) software is already installed b.) updating software from the wrong versions does nothing of any value08:39
flouricHello i have a problem with my laptop bios08:40
flouricI want to be able to allocate more memory to my intel integrated graphics iron lake08:41
imghostikonia, ok thankyou:), so its not good to add unofficail repos? thats the conlcusion of this type of problems?08:41
ikoniaflouric: talk to your hardware providers support08:41
aeon-ltdflouric: this is the ubuntu channel08:41
ikoniaimghost: depends if you trust the source/packages08:41
flouricOk i will do so08:41
imghostikonia, got it :)thankyou :)08:41
jefersentrying to recover my windows os using testdisk, can anyone assist me?08:46
grahamsavagehey in libraoffice how do you customize the heading styles so it persists from one document to another?08:47
cloneGonetinsoldier: -rw------- 2 ivan ivan 1644118 mar  5  2012 SeagateExpansion.ico08:48
onetinsoldiercloneG: roger. are you logged in as ivan?08:49
[Gentoo]jefersen: you wont be able to recover th whole os08:49
cloneGonetinsoldier yes08:49
[Gentoo]jefersen: you'll get some random files show up probbaly08:49
jefersen(Gentoo) oh okay08:49
jefersen(Gentoo) will they include stuff like documents, music?08:49
[Gentoo]jefersen: it will take a long time to scan, you might find some things but it'll be a mess08:51
varunendrajefersen, if the entire partition was lost and is found again, you will get everything back, including the OS (but maybe just not the boot sector)08:51
[Gentoo]dont expect to recover things like folders08:51
onetinsoldiercloneG: i'm rusty at this. but i'd do the following... sudo chmod g+rw SeagateExpansion.ico08:51
jefersen(Gentoo) thats okay, some things better than nothing right08:51
[Gentoo]yeah it depends on whats happened on disk since08:51
jefersen(varunendra) okay08:51
varunendra[Gentoo], you are probably explaining about PhotoRec, not testdisk08:52
[Gentoo]ah, yes i am08:52
[Gentoo]lol08:52
varunendra:D08:52
[Gentoo]sorry about that08:52
jefersen(Gentoo) and (varunendra) well i had used about 300-400 gb of space on my windows, but ubuntu is now using only about 16-1708:52
varunendrajefersen, did you follow the step_by_step?08:52
jefersen(varunendra) I wasn't able to follow step-by-step because theres something different in mine08:52
varunendrajefersen, let's first see an output of "sudo fdisk -l" and "sudo parted -l"08:53
jefersen(varunendra) okay08:53
onetinsoldiercloneG: actually... sudo chmod 0664 SeagateExpansion.ico  ...might be better08:53
onetinsoldiercloneG: then see if you can get to the file properties08:54
jefersen(varunendra) http://paste.ubuntu.com/6571275/08:54
varunendracloneG, I'm not sure, but probably the "autorun.inf" file is used to get and set the icon for drives. At least in windows it is, so I assume it would be same in Ubuntu too08:55
varunendrajefersen, so you have clearly overwritten the partition, just wanted to confirm that. Not a good news but at least the situation is clear and confirmed now.08:56
cloneGvarunendra....that might be the point08:56
varunendrajefersen, so what options did you get when you started testdisk?08:57
jefersen(varunendra) shall i start testdisk from the beginning?08:57
varunendracloneG, do you see an "autorun.inf" file in the drive? It's just two lines that need to be in it (if it is indeed required)08:58
cloneGvarunendra onetinsoldier Bingo that was it08:58
onetinsoldiercheers08:58
varunendrajefersen, maybe you can show us a screenshot of the current situation.08:58
varunendracloneG, congrats !08:58
jefersen(varunendra) okay, whats the easiest way to share a screenhot on this08:59
varunendrajefersen, imagebin.org ?08:59
cloneGvarunendra: what should I type? I think I screwed things up09:03
cloneGvarunendra: [autorun]09:04
cloneGicon= /usb.ico09:04
cloneGvarunendra: this wont work09:04
cloneGdespite renaming the image to usb.ico09:04
varunendracloneG, both the lines look okay to me, just make sure the path of the icon is a "relative path" and in windows form. That is, don't use "/", instead, use either "\" or no slash at all09:05
jefersen(varunendra) http://postimg.org/image/m6vw1bm65/09:05
cloneGvarunendra the image is  in the main external hd folder...but its like something is missing09:07
cloneGin the path09:07
cloneGvarunendra using \ or / or nothing gives the same result: no icon09:08
varunendracloneG, since "autorun.inf" is a windows way of doing things, I'd suggest to stick with its format. Did you try without space (after "=")?09:10
cloneGyes09:10
cloneGoh without space...09:10
cloneGvarunendra: bingo!09:11
varunendracloneG, are you sure this time ?? XD09:11
cloneGvarunendra: that was it,removing the space before the = fixed it. yes absolutely I can see the icon now09:12
varunendraHope it stays, lol !09:12
cloneGvarunendra we'll see I need to test it in windows09:12
jefersen(varunendra) hey varun, do you mind having a look at the sreenshot - http://postimg.org/image/m6vw1bm65/09:13
varunendrajefersen, do you remember the size of your windows partition before you installed Ubuntu?09:13
varunendrasorry, it was hard to make a guess, jefersen09:13
jefersen(varunendra) hmm so there were quite a few partitions09:13
jefersen(varunendra) i think possibly 4 partitions09:13
varunendrajefersen, how many could you see from within windows?09:14
jefersen(varunendra) only 1 - C Drive09:14
varunendrajefersen, factory preinstalled windows?09:15
jefersen(varunendra) sorry?09:15
jefersen(varunendra) oh yes.09:15
varunendrajefersen, okay, I think the situation is a lot clearer now. Please give me a min..09:16
jefersen(varunendra) sure :)09:16
varunendrajefersen, the screenshot is showing the "P" option (to list files). Select the second partition and press "P". Does it list your previously existing files? If not, try the same with 3rd entry in the list09:17
BlunderWhat would cause VNC to only show a black screen when I try to remote in?09:18
ripthejackerHi everyone, the compose keys are not working on my system.09:21
ripthejackerI am using Ubuntu 13.10 saucy.09:21
herpderphurrripthejacker: What are the compose keys?09:22
ripthejackerand I cannot enable it from the keyboard shortcuts panel09:22
ripthejackerherpderphurr: the keycombo that you use to enter char using unicodes09:23
ripthejackerit was ctrl+shift+u and then unicode.09:23
ripthejackerit's not working anymore09:23
jefersen(varunendra) i'm not able to make much sense of the files, is it ok if i send you a screenshot of each partition file info?09:24
varunendrajefersen, sure, as long as you mean posting the links in the channel. I'm sure others would be interested too :)09:25
onetinsoldierripthejacker: what do you get if you do the following command?  ls -ld $HOME/.compose-cache09:26
chamunksis there some kind of webgui for ldap I want to kind of lightly explore it to get a feel for what to expect.09:26
jefersen(varunendra) should i do it for the 4th partition as well?09:27
chamunksReading painful manuals on it would mush out whats left of my soul I think.09:27
ripthejackeronetinsoldier: no such file or directory09:28
varunendrajefersen, its listed size doesn't look worth much, but see if you can see anything familiar in it.09:28
onetinsoldierripthejacker: roger. i don't know. just thought if that directory was there you could try renaming it and then try again09:29
jefersen(varunendra) it has stuff like system volume information09:29
ripthejackeronetinsoldier: does the compose key work for you?09:30
varunendrajefersen, anything familiar? It seems like an ntfs "Recovery Partition" to me.09:30
onetinsoldierripthejacker: i've never played with around with unicode or compose keys09:30
ripthejackerok09:30
killerhey, how can i reset libreoffice settings in ubuntu09:31
varunendrajefersen, your user data is most likely to be found in the 2nd and/or 3rd partitions. They are overlapping, so only one of them should be a correct entry.09:31
jefersen(varunendra) honestly no idea, but okay09:32
onetinsoldierripthejacker: do you have a  /var/cache/libx11/compose/  directory?09:32
unicodesnowmanHi, I would like to increase the maximum number of open file descriptors in Ubuntu for my Node.js process.09:32
unicodesnowmanMy current soft and hard limit is 10240 and I am hitting this limit. I would like to increase it to 20480 at least, however entering higher numbers has no effect.09:32
jefersen(varunendra) started  doing a deeper search at the moment (by mistake)09:32
ripthejackeronetinsoldier: there isn't even /var/cache/libx11 dir.09:32
varunendrajefersen, should be fruitful I hope09:33
unicodesnowmanI'm using the setrlimit call to increase the limits09:33
jefersen(varunendra) haha man, has this ever happened to you?09:33
onetinsoldierripthejacker: roger.09:33
ripthejackeronetinsoldier:?09:34
varunendrajefersen, many times on MBR based partitions, but haven't experienced that with GPT partitions. So I am a bit lost too :)09:34
onetinsoldierripthejacker: roger just means, affirmative. as in... i hear you09:35
ripthejackeronetinsoldier: ok09:35
jefersen(varunendra) oh i see!09:35
onetinsoldierripthejacker: you do have the libx11-data package installed i'm sure. you might check that you do. but i would think it's installed09:36
varunendraonetinsoldier, as in "Roger that captain" :P09:36
ripthejackeronetinsoldier: Ok i'll look into it.09:36
onetinsoldieryes varunendra :-)09:36
jefersen(varunendra) well i'll get back to you in a bit, are you going to be around?09:40
varunendracan't say how long :)09:40
jefersen(varunendra) hmm, let me just send you the screenshots of whatever i took before doing the deep search09:41
varunendrajefersen, if you don'09:41
varunendradon't get help here, post a thread at ubuntuforums.org and PM me there, jefersen09:41
jefersen(varunendra) - i think this is the first screen - http://postimg.org/image/57tegtxcv/09:42
jefersen(varunendra) okay, will do09:42
jefersen(varunendra) partition 2 - http://postimg.org/image/rdr96qci3/09:43
varunendrajefersen, that is clearly a linux partition, not windows. Maybe deeper search can give better results09:43
jefersen(varunendra) hmm alright09:43
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varunendrajefersen, the second image is still opening ;)09:44
cloneGhello I followed this guide to install and configure bind9 in my server but I cant find how to configure a client...09:44
cloneGhttps://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/dns.html09:44
varunendra.... and seems useless, jefersen09:44
jefersen(varunendra) lol09:44
jefersen(varunendra) guess i'll wait till the deep search is done then09:45
jefersen(varunendra) do you think it'll be of any use?09:45
killerhey, how can i get slide pane back libreoffice09:46
varunendrayup, deeper search option is there for a reason , although nothing is guaranteed :)09:46
jefersenright, got it09:46
cloneGit seems to me it is a default ubuntu service am I right?09:46
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unicodesnowmanany help?09:58
unicodesnowmanmy limits.conf is not working09:58
unicodesnowmanfor maximum number of open files09:58
bibi234I'm currently lookin at a processor description, it says 2 cores and 2,9 GHz, there are also a lot of other information, which ones are the most relevant to compare with other processors?10:11
Capt_JackSparrowHowdy10:13
varunendrabibi234, if all the processors to be compared are of same generation, then only benchmarking can tell the real difference. You can find that on the net. And #hardware would be a better place for this question.10:13
nevynbibi234: for what workload?10:13
nevynbibi234: and what critiera.10:13
nevynbibi234: and what criteria rather.10:14
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TNTSHi, how do I mark a partition as active? I have Ubuntu 13.10 and the partition is an HFS+ partition. I have all the stuff like hfsprogs10:16
bibi234nevyn: it's for a Java / PHP development machine, with ubuntu, some IDE, web-server.10:16
jjhserver irc.efnet.he10:16
jjhugh, sorry.10:16
ActionParsnipTu-offtopic10:26
kivigeoff /join #tarent10:28
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Seveas'ello10:38
Seveasquiet in here today :)10:38
CalinouSeveas, hi, ask your question10:40
SeveasCalinou: I don't have one, sorry :)10:42
xcalibur1978Hi, I have an issue regarding group permissions. Whenever I'm trying to get a directory list from a web application on a group with chmod 664  I got nothing back. I'm guessing the web user which tries to get the list, is not part of the group who has rights in that directory10:44
bekksxcalibur1978: If you get hat, you should check that to be sure.10:45
xcalibur1978bekks, good idea, but how ;)10:45
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bekksxcalibur1978: ls -lha10:46
xcalibur1978ok, I can see apache2 runs as www-data10:46
xcalibur1978I added the www-data user to the ftp-data group10:46
Seveasxcalibur1978: groups don't gave a 'chmod 644'. Neither do directories have that mode. What are you actually trying to do?10:47
xcalibur1978the ftp-data group has read/write rights10:47
bekksxcalibur1978: What are you really trying to do? Adding ww-data to ftp-data is a bad idea.10:47
xcalibur1978i have this directory, where i need to have acces to as user (my own user where I login with in ubuntu). I also want to have the ftp-user to have read / write rights. Last but not least i also need to have apache read/write rights.10:49
xcalibur1978The only difference is, my ubunutu account needs to have delete rights, the others dont10:49
Seveasxcalibur1978: write rights == delete rights10:49
Seveasso what you're trying to do is impossible.10:49
xcalibur1978ok....10:49
xcalibur1978haha10:50
xcalibur1978thats new for me ;)10:50
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Sir_LetoI'm having the weirdest problem when ripping CDS11:02
Sir_LetoI hear static and I can hear the sound of the disc rotating in the audio files11:02
bekksSir_Leto: What do you mean by "I hear Static"?11:03
Dudytzhi all! I have a computer with the Ubuntu Saucy, but, because I use LXC I need to use a patched kernel (via ppa) to turn on all the features of lxc ... I see that the kernel of Trusty Thar is already patched. Question: It's possible to install only the kernel from trusty on a saucy installation? How is the "best" way to do this without "breaks" the apt database?11:03
Sir_LetoI hear crackling, bekks11:04
MonkeyDustDudytz  sounds like Frankenstein Ubuntu to me11:04
hianhifHello folks, i've come across a problem i just cant seem to solve. My graphics gets laggy 40-60 seconds after i log in to my desktop. And my FPS in games have dropped dramatically. I have tried serveral different ways of uninstalling / installing new / old GFX drivers. None of which makes a difference. I have tried several of my backups all presenting the same problem (tho they where not there before) Which leads me to conclude that11:04
hianhifi have somehow "added" the problem by installing something, since restoring my system too an earlier state has no effect on things that was not there before but are there now!  Any advice and or help is appreciated.11:04
bekksjeferhSo which graphics hardware and which drivers on which Ubuntu do you actually use?11:05
DudytzMnkeyDust: LoL ... yes, but it's possible?11:05
greekHi. I'd like to play Starcraft 2 on my Ubuntu desktop (12.04 LTS). How can this be achieved?11:09
hianhifRadeon HD 5800 series and i have tried several different proprietary drivers ( the newest available and old ones which have worked before) i'm on Ubuntu 12.0411:10
MonkeyDustgreek  is it a windows game? have you tried steam? more info please11:10
ikoniaMonkeyDust: is it even a steam game ?11:10
ikoniaMonkeyDust: why are you just randomly pushing steam ???11:10
Ben64!appdb | greek11:10
ubottugreek: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help11:10
greekMonkeyDust, Starcraft 2? Yeah, Windows. Not steam game11:10
GnuNixStarcraft 2 will only work on Mac or Windows. Wine might work, but it will be a stretch11:11
ikoniagood lord, can you not try to find out valuable information before pushing random things11:11
Ben64sc2 worked shortly after release in wine11:11
greekBen64, ok thanks will check out this wine11:11
greekI was thinking of installing Virtualbox etc.11:11
Ben64vbox is not really good for gaming11:11
bekksgreek: vbox isnt designed to be used for gaming. No virtualization software is.11:13
greekBen64, woah Wine looks pretty neat11:13
ikoniawine is a shambles11:13
greekAlso this: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=2088211:13
greekWell to be honest I could dual-boot, but I really don't want to go through that whole schlep just to play one game11:13
bekksgreek: well, if you want to game, go through it.11:15
hianhifLet me try a different way of asking! does anyone know what could make glxgears to drop from 8500+  Frames / 5 sec. too 1700 Frames / 5 sec. 40-60 secs after i log in. If i log out and then back in again i still get the lower FPS, no matter which user.11:16
greekbekks, you're probably right11:16
GnuNixGreek: I would dual boot if i was playing games not found natively for Linux. I don't game much, but I'd imagine the experience would be much better on Windows :)11:16
Ben64hianhif: glxgears is not a benchmark11:17
wicaHi, I have a running systeem with full enrypted lvm. Is there a way to gek the key?11:17
greekMan I just wish I could install Windows XP on my USB stick along with Starcraft and just boot off that, leaving my 100% Ubuntu HD untouched.11:17
rijackAnyone know a good water cooling channel11:17
hianhifgreek, Sc2 runs fine on ubuntu 12.04. As does most games i have tried. You do however need to put in some time to get to know your OS and wine.11:18
bekkswica: did you lose it?11:18
wicabekks: I don't remember the correct key :)11:18
bekkswica: then get your backup;)11:18
wicabekks: :) Yes that is possible. But this system is still running.11:19
wicaSo I guess that is somewhere a file with the key11:19
bekkswica: there isnt.11:19
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wicabekks: Is there a wa to verify that I have the correct key?11:20
GnuNixWica, if it's still running and you have firewire you can do a RAM dump and find it that way. There are a few tools on the net which can do it. Elcomsoft has a few11:20
hianhifBen64, And pigs cant fly!11:20
Estragonhi11:20
hianhifBen64, Sorry. that was uncalled for11:20
wicaGnuNix: Thanks, that I was hoping for. I don't think I need firewire, because I still working on the system11:20
wicaAnd still logged in11:21
Ben64hianhif: not sure what your point is11:21
hianhifBen64, My problem is not related to whether glxgears is a benchmark as far as i know. My problem is that my graphics performance drops drastically about 1 minute after i log in to my desktop.11:24
Ben64hianhif: but you're basing it on glxgears, which is not valid as a benchmark11:24
hianhifBen64, first of, not all problems have a valid benchmark to prove them. Secondly Point taken. And third glxgears is the easiest way for me to present the problem. I am however open to any suggestions of other ways prove my problem, if you think that would help11:28
Ben64hianhif: maybe you just have a slow gpu?11:30
hianhifBen64, The problöems started a few weeks ago. Before that i had no such issues. I play several different games and all games present with the same issue (i mostly play Eve Online if that matters).11:31
bekkshianhif: Maybe the online games got more complex.11:33
bekkshianhif: Are the games flash based maybe?11:34
Ben64radeon 5800 sounds old. probably should be using the open source driver on it11:34
hianhifbekks, are you trolling? and no. :)11:35
bekkshianhif: Well, if you consider other asking questions about your problem to be trolling - good luck on solving your issue on your own, I am not going to waste my time with it anymore.11:35
hianhifBen64, AMD HD 5850 is not that old. And no i should not use the open source driver if i'm playing 3d games.11:36
hianhifbekks, Sorry, Was not my intention to be rude. It was an honest question. But ok, No several different games getting more complex all at the same time, including lowered desktop performance sounds really unlikely.11:38
hengkyhi11:49
hengkyanybody can help me11:49
hengkyi have a problem install ubuntu server 12.0.411:49
hengkywith hardware raid 111:49
hengkymy server is ibm system x3100 m411:50
hengkyanybody11:50
gordonjcp!details | hengky11:50
bekkshengky: state your issue in one sentence please.11:50
ubottuhengky: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."11:50
hianhifhengky, i'd suggest joining the channel #ubuntu-server11:50
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Guest84921\list11:51
hianhifAsking again "Hello folks, i've come across a problem i just cant seem to solve. My graphics gets laggy 40-60 seconds after i log in to my desktop. And my FPS in games have dropped dramatically. I have tried serveral different ways of uninstalling / installing new / old GFX drivers. None of which makes a difference. I have tried several of my backups all presenting the same problem (tho they where not there before) Which leads me to11:53
hianhifconclude that i have somehow "added" the problem by installing something, since restoring my system too an earlier state has no effect on things that was not there before but are there now!  Any advice and or help is appreciated. "11:53
ZengerHi guys, what is the quickest way to set something up to receive one e-mail ?12:00
ZengerI tried postfix but it fails to recieve any e-mail . Although when using sendmail from within php it sends the e-mail, but refuses to recieve any.12:01
ZengerIs there any way to setup a quick mailserver to recieve just one e-mail ?12:01
hianhifZenger, From where is this mail? local LAN or WAN?12:02
Zengerhianhif: internet12:02
onitaLHello. I see a bunch of empty .Xauthority. and .goutputstream- files at home. Is it ok to delete them? Thanks12:02
SeveasonitaL: yes12:03
onitaLThx12:03
onitaLBTW, what are  .goutputstream- files ?12:04
SeveasZenger: sudo nc -l -p 2512:06
Seveasand speak SMTP manually :)12:06
ZengerSeveas: would it recieve an e-mail ? :D12:07
Zengerbtw I jus realize i'm missing an MX record on my domain12:07
SeveasZenger: only if you speak SMTP correctly12:07
hianhifZenger, i'm afraid i dont know a quick fix to get a mailserver up and running. I have one. but that bitch took forever to do all the bits the way i wanted. i'd suggest reading up on postfix :)12:08
Zengerhianhif: yeah, I'm sturgglin with postfix too12:08
ZengerSeveas: I mean I need to recieve an e-mail from outside, and I have no control on that e-mail what so ever12:09
ZengerSeveas: besides I need to "recieve" an e-mail not "send" an e-mail12:10
Ben64Seveas told you a method12:10
hianhifZenger,  do you have control over the domain that the mail is beeing sent too?12:10
SeveasZenger: nc -l listens on a socket, you need to pretend to be an smtp daemon12:10
ZengerSeveas: hm12:11
Ben64it'd be pretty easy, lots of "250 OK" s12:11
ZengerSeveas: lemme google a little , maybe I'll figure this on my own12:11
SeveasBen64: 220 OK / 250 OK / 250 OK / 354 OK / 250 OK / 221 OK :)12:12
Seveashmm, that's missing a 250 OK for EHLO ;)12:12
Ben64http://www.tcpipguide.com/free/t_SMTPMailTransactionProcess-3.htm12:13
Ben64good explanation of the process12:13
SeveasI just tried it out with swaks in another terminal12:13
Seveashttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6571969/12:14
frog__i wrote everyhing on the picture: http://snag.gy/zxbii.jpg12:14
KurvivorHello! i am having troubles with upgrading to 13.10. here are the details of a problem -  http://askubuntu.com/questions/390442/what-should-i-do-to-complete-ubuntu-upgrade Please advice what to do12:15
ZengerSeveas: aren't you sending e-mail in this example ?12:16
ZengerThere doesn't seem to be a way to recieve e-mails using netcat, only sending them :|12:19
MrmacHDhi all12:19
MrmacHDwhich one is the fastest most suitable desktop environment for ubuntu 12.04 on a pentium 4?12:19
MrmacHDxfce or enlightenment?12:19
ZengerMrmacHD: I'd opt for LMDE12:19
gordonjcpZenger: you could listen on port 2512:19
MrmacHDohh thats a new one12:20
gordonjcpMrmacHD: Unity12:20
MrmacHDlet me see12:20
gordonjcpMrmacHD: how much memory have you got?12:20
MrmacHD512mb12:20
MrmacHDunity is slow as slug12:20
gordonjcpMrmacHD: put some more in12:20
ZengerMrmacHD: LMDE claims to run even on 128mb12:20
MrmacHDhow well does it run though?12:21
gordonjcpMrmacHD: I'm running Unity on a P4 with 1GB, it's faster than XFCE on the same hardware12:21
ZengerMrmacHD: I've been using it on a 512mb in a school project and I'm very happy with it12:21
MrmacHDxp was pretty darn fast12:21
ubuntuOh no12:21
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MrmacHDunity made me wanna go back to xp, that fast it was!12:21
MrmacHDis LMDE the one mint uses?12:21
Zenger MrmacHD no12:22
gordonjcpMrmacHD: if you haven't got OpenGL, XFCE will be faster.  If you *do*, and most machines do, XFCE will be slower12:22
gordonjcpMrmacHD: Mint uses the reanimated corpse of Gnome 212:22
Zengerand a fork of Gnome 312:22
gordonjcpbecause they're stuck in the past12:22
k1l!lubuntu | MrmacHD12:22
ubottuMrmacHD: lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.12:22
Zengerduh12:22
gordonjcpLXDE is unusably buggy12:22
MrmacHDwait12:22
k1lMrmacHD: if you want some lightweight go with lubuntu12:22
MrmacHDi already have ubuntu 12.04.312:23
MrmacHDk1l:12:23
gordonjcpit's fine if you never want to change the size of a window, or use a web browser12:23
ZengerMrmacHD: install lubuntu-desktop12:23
k1lMrmacHD: then install "lubuntu-desktop"12:23
MrmacHDoh12:23
gordonjcpFirefox consistently crashes LXDE when a download finishes and it makes the taskbar thing flash12:23
MrmacHDchrome currently crashes consistently under unity12:24
gordonjcpthe LXDE devs know about this and can reproduce it, but either don't care to or don't know how to fix it12:24
MrmacHDok so lubuntu-desktop then?12:24
gordonjcpMrmacHD: chrome is horrible though12:24
MrmacHDbut that is enlightenment12:24
gordonjcpMrmacHD: yes, if you don't plan on using a browser12:24
ZengerMrmacHD: don't use Chrome if you have a slow video card, it uses 3d to render the GUI12:24
MrmacHDoh12:24
MrmacHDcrap12:24
k1lgordonjcp: come on12:24
MrmacHDany good webkit based browser for linux?12:24
k1lMrmacHD: lubuntu works just fine for a lot of users12:24
k1lMrmacHD: just test it yourself12:24
ZengerMrmacHD: why not firefox ?12:25
MrmacHDlubuntu uses enlightenment anyway, so why should i go download a new distro?12:25
ZengerMrmacHD: trust me it works 10 times faster on a old pc12:25
gordonjcpMrmacHD: nope, there are no good webkit browsers for any OS12:25
MrmacHDfirefox was good!12:25
ZengerMrmacHD: you don't, you can use your current Ubuntu installation and just replace the DE with LMDE12:25
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k1lMrmacHD: you can install the lubuntu package, which installs the needed packages and no everything else12:25
MrmacHDoh ok12:26
MrmacHDso lmde or lubuntu?12:26
MrmacHDfinal call12:26
Zengersame thing jesus12:26
Zengerjust install lmde on your current ubuntu installation12:26
k1lMrmacHD: then you can switch on login screen, and if you dont like it just remove it and its a standard ubuntu again12:26
Zengerhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/243318/how-to-install-lubuntu-desktop-environment-and-only-the-desktop-environment12:26
MrmacHDoh ok12:26
bekksMrmacHD: whats "lmde"?12:28
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MrmacHDnah12:28
Zengerlinux mint debian edition12:28
MrmacHDI wonder, was I better off with mint?12:28
MrmacHDyeah12:28
Hassenwhat's the ubuntu off topic chan exact chan name?12:28
bekksDoesnt matter in an Ubuntu channel.12:28
k1l!ot | Hassen12:28
ubottuHassen: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!12:28
Hassenk1l, thanks12:28
k1lMrmacHD: if you ask in a ubuntu channe, of course use ubuntu :)12:29
sandhuhi sir....i just want to update my linux to new version12:29
MrmacHDyes, bad place to ask that. is mint generally considered faster or ubuntu?12:29
k1lMrmacHD: no12:29
MrmacHDok then12:29
bekksMrmacHD: It is considered unsupported in here.12:29
MrmacHDlode it is!12:29
k1lMrmacHD: for lightweight go with lubuntu12:29
MrmacHDmint copied xp too much, i don't like that12:30
k1lsandhu: what does "lsb_release -r" give you?12:30
sandhui didt get u sir12:30
MonkeyDustsandhu  what linux ditro are you running?12:31
k1lsandhu: opes a terminal, type "lsb_release -r" in it and show the result in here, please12:31
k1l*open12:31
sandhuno sir ubuntu 10.1012:31
MonkeyDust!eolupgrade | sandhu12:31
ubottusandhu: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades12:31
k1loh well. with ubuntu 10.10 you are better off with a new install from 12.04 or 13.1012:31
fartfaceHey!  I'm trying to boot up a 2011 mac mini to run ubuntu--I've installed rEFInd, I can select to boot from USB, the EFI menu selection comes up, but whether I choose TRY or INSTALL, the screen goes black (still "active", but black) and hangs.  Any ideas?12:32
MrmacHDis gnome 3 also gpu dependant?12:33
MrmacHDthe tablet like look12:33
k1lMrmacHD: yes it needs 3d12:33
MrmacHDah12:33
gordonjcpMrmacHD: every "modern" WM requires OpenGL12:34
gordonjcpMrmacHD: the ones that don't all rely on software rendering12:34
MrmacHDi have an ati in there, but its so old and weak, i dunno12:34
MrmacHDused to play cs and halo on it.12:34
gordonjcpMrmacHD: it's faster than software rendering12:34
MrmacHDi know12:34
gordonjcpMrmacHD: stuff like LXDE is painfully slow on old hardware with slow graphics cards12:35
k1lMrmacHD: i suggest you give lubuntu a go and test it. you are making way to much concerns. if lubuntu doesnt suit you you can start with concerns again :)12:35
gordonjcpfrankly these days if you stick a couple gig of RAM in and a cheap NVidia card, anything down to a P3 will run normal Ubuntu just fine12:35
k1lgordonjcp: come on, as if modern gnome3 base desktops are faster with a pentium 4 than lxde m(12:35
MrmacHDk1l: I might, because I cannot find good resources regarding lmde, linux mint debian edition.12:35
k1lMrmacHD: that is not even considered lightweight12:36
gordonjcpk1l: on one of my machines I can see LXDE draw each window, primitive by primitive12:36
MrmacHDk1l: what12:36
MrmacHDah lmde12:37
k1lMrmacHD: you are mixing up lmde, lxde and other stuff. just give lubuntu a try.12:37
MrmacHDk1l: Zenger says its better than lxde or xfce12:37
ZengerMrmacHD: I didn't say that12:37
gordonjcpMint will be great once they start shipping with Unity as the default DE12:37
MrmacHDI'm more confused than minutes ago12:37
k1lMrmacHD: nope. not for lightweight, lmde is just a xp-like desktop. and its not supported by ubuntu12:37
MrmacHDZenger: what is your opinion on them then?12:37
onitaLCan I assume LTS releases are faster then Debian stable releases?12:38
onitaLI mean, are they released more often?12:38
ZengerMrmacHD: LMDE - is a debian distro, keep that in mind, it's fast but has a lot of drawbacks12:38
k1lonitaL: faster is not very objective12:38
ZengerMrmacHD: LXDE - is faster the fastest DE i know12:38
k1lonitaL: a LTS ubuntu comes every 2 years. but have 5 years support12:38
MrmacHDZenger: yes, I hate the work I need to put into debian.12:38
MrmacHDhence ubuntu12:38
ZengerMrmacHD: then use LXDE (Lubuntu)12:38
MonkeyDustonitaL  LTS is released every 2 years, next in April 201412:39
Zengerdon't believe what gordonjcp is telling you just install and try it, you'll see for yourself12:39
MrmacHDwait lxde is the same as lubuntu?12:39
ZengerLXDE is the DE Lubuntu is just ubuntu with the LXDE pre-installed12:39
MrmacHDI was trying to choose one for the past 5 min.12:39
MonkeyDustMrmacHD  lubuntu is ubuntu with lxde12:39
gordonjcpMrmacHD: LXDE is the desktop environment that Lubuntu uses by default12:39
k1lMrmacHD: lubuntu uses LXDE, yes. that is why that L is coming to ubuntu12:39
MrmacHDok12:39
MrmacHDso can I install lxde on my ubuntu then remove unity?12:40
k1lMrmacHD: just install lubuntu-desktop. gogogogogo :)12:40
MrmacHDas if I had lubuntu to begin with?12:40
MrmacHDokok12:40
ZengerLMDE - Linux Mint Debian Edition - fast but pain in the ass, LXDE - Fast small DE, Lubuntu - Ubuntu with LXDE installed.12:40
Zengersimple enough12:40
MrmacHDmight be worth to do a who new lubuntu tonight.12:40
MrmacHDno12:41
onitaLThanks guys. Next question: Could an Ubuntu LST release have newer software than a stable Debian release? or about the same?12:41
MrmacHDI burned ubuntu into an 800mb CD, not worth getting to the starting point again.12:41
MrmacHDlxde it is then. done.12:41
MrmacHDthanks all Zenger, k1l and the enthusiastic gordonjcp12:42
MrmacHD:D12:42
ZengerMrmacHD: the best part of lubuntu is that it will drag a lot of software that is very lightweight12:42
BluesKajhiyas all12:42
ZengerMrmacHD: speeeeeed!12:42
MrmacHDI don't want abiword12:42
MonkeyDustonitaL  ubuntu does not alwys use the !latest software12:42
MrmacHDnor ubuntu's libre, but ubuntu generally comes with some useful stuff I like to keep.12:43
onitaLMonkeyDust, I understand that, and that's for the best12:43
ZengerMrmacHD: you can replace it anytime you want, it's just ubuntu duh12:43
MrmacHDwell I remove things from what I have12:43
MrmacHDhow big is the lubuntu release on a CD?12:43
ZengerMrmacHD: ~700 mb12:44
Zengerbut you don't need that, just install the damn package will ya12:44
MrmacHDnot going to happen12:44
MrmacHD72912:45
MrmacHDlarger than ubuntu12:45
MrmacHD706 is ubuntu CD12:45
onitaLI think I've sorted my thoughts. Thanks guys12:45
WizardHi.12:45
MrmacHDand I wasted a 800mb CD for it12:45
gordonjcpMrmacHD: CD?12:45
MrmacHDjust lxde and lets see how that goes12:45
MrmacHDhad to burn that crap12:45
gordonjcppeople still use CDs?12:45
MrmacHD21st century12:45
jefersen(varunendra) i found more partitions after the deep search12:46
Zengerwhen you have an old pc that doesn't boot usb you'll use a cd )12:46
MonkeyDustMrmacHD  open a terminal and type    apt-get install lubuntu-desktop12:46
gordonjcpwhy not use a USB stick?12:46
* Wizard uses, they still sell music on them.12:46
MrmacHDI do, because my single 16GB usb is bootable for something else.12:46
gordonjcpZenger: everything boots USB12:46
gordonjcpright back to PII12:46
mamedhello guys. i want to install ubuntu 13.04 inside windows but the cd does not contain the windows installer . i read that i can download it from net but it will also download the installation files . does it make sense i have the cd .12:46
MrmacHDno it has 5 usb inputs12:46
MrmacHDbut I'm lacking usb sticks12:46
gordonjcpZenger: if it doesn't, it's probably too weird to bother with12:46
Zengergordonjcp: come say that to my school pc's with borken usb's12:46
Zengerbroken*12:46
Wizardgordonjcp: My powerbook G4 doesn't12:47
MrmacHDthats true, most break too often12:47
gordonjcpI don't think I've even seen a CD for sale for a decade12:47
MonkeyDustMrmacHD  you don't need all that, simply install lubuntu-desktop12:47
bekksmamed: It would make more sense to install virtualbox and set up an Ubuntu VM.12:47
gordonjcpwouldn't know where to look for blank CDs12:47
MrmacHDyep MonkeyDust its what I'm going to do12:47
MrmacHDgordonjcp: past12:47
Zengermamed: would you like to install it on a CD or on a USB stick ?12:47
mamedbekks, you are right but i am planning to try the wayland on my ati card12:47
gordonjcpMrmacHD: my time machine is broken12:47
Zengeroh12:47
MrmacHD:D12:47
gordonjcpMrmacHD: ironically enough I have boxes and boxes of DSDD floppies12:48
Zengermamed: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer12:48
mamedjust wubi will create a 20 gb harddisk space and install ubunut but downloading 500 mb files is too much for me12:48
bekksmamed: then you should setup a dualboot.12:48
gordonjcpMrmacHD: I have more PCs with working floppy drives, than with working CD drives12:48
MrmacHDgordonjcp: I have duke nukem on 12 floppies still!12:48
mamedbekks, the problem is wubi will download the setup files but i have a boot cd12:48
MrmacHDand doom on 4 i think12:48
gordonjcpMrmacHD: I work with a lot of old equipment that loads <stuff> off floppies12:48
mameddoesnot wubi use the cd to install the files?12:49
bekksmamed: Then setup a dualboot.12:49
gordonjcpmamed: wubi is dead12:49
gordonjcpmamed: never, ever use wubi12:49
mamedoh really?12:49
mamedok i wont use it12:49
MrmacHDok i got to go but will come back in 8-10 hours to report back success/failures. thanks again!12:49
MonkeyDustmamed  wubi is for testing purposes, not for production and cannot be upgraded12:49
Mark_de_J!nl12:49
ubottuNederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl12:49
sl1ckis there any way to change drive letter under ubuntu (ntfs) ?12:49
bekkssl1ck: Ubuntu doesnt use drive letters.12:50
varunendrajefersen, got your files listed too?12:50
jefersen(varunendra) theres many partitions, dont know which one to open12:50
bekkssl1ck: and the information which drive letter is assign isnt stored on the filesystem, but in the windows OS.12:51
sl1ckbekks: i know, and it's not an answer to my question12:51
mamedZenger, the link you gave me installs the wubi12:51
sl1ckunderstood12:51
sl1ckthanks12:51
varunendrajefersen, whichever seems to be large enough, or simply try to list each one, one-by-one. The "P" switch is just a verification measure, it doesn't make any changes.12:51
Kurvivorwhat is keyserver for linux mint? I want to install nemo instead of nautilus, and it is in there12:52
Kurvivorin mint, that is12:52
bekks!mint | Kurvivor12:52
ubottuKurvivor: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org12:52
Zengermamed: You could use pendrivelinux or unetbootin to install it on USB12:53
sl1ckbekks: any gui app to help me copy a partition from one (physical) hdd to another?12:53
Kurvivorok12:53
bekkssl1ck: gparted or clonezilla.12:53
sl1ckthanks again!12:54
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mamedhm thanks Zenger12:56
sandhuwhich is the best version of ubuntu12:57
jefersen(varunendra) oh well, this is going to take a while. lol, i'll get back to you12:58
ActionParsnipSandhu: there is no best12:58
sandhuwhat no gud12:58
varunendrasandhu, whichever plays best with your hardware, and feels comfortable :)12:58
ActionParsnipSandhu: depends what you like. 12.04 is LTS too so is supported a lot longer than the others. (Lubuntu 12.04 is not LTS)12:59
grahamsavagehey.. how can i sort by date and limit to 10 files when using ls?12:59
sandhurt nw i hve 10.1012:59
k1lsandhu: go with ubuntu 12.04.312:59
ActionParsnipsandhu: your question is as intelligent as asking "what is the best drink". There is no single best. Its preposterous12:59
jefersen(varunendra) is there anything that can make this any easier?13:00
sandhuhahaha but  how to update it ...to 12.04.313:00
k1lsandhu: a new install is way faster13:00
sandhubut how13:00
ActionParsnipSandhu: maverick is dead. I would install Precise and enjoy long support. You can also upgrade to 14.04 from 12.4 in one jump as it is LTS to LTS13:01
k1lsandhu: you need to make 10.10->11.04->11.10->12.0413:01
MonkeyDustsandhu  first upgrade to a supported release, then ask again13:01
varunendrajefersen, how many partitions you are seeing now? Just one glance at their contents should give an idea which is the one we are interested in.13:01
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ActionParsnipsandhu: i would clean install then restore user data from backup13:01
k1lsandhu: if you want to stay longer on one release go for LTS at the beginning13:01
hjudHi. What does this command do : cp /directory1/. /directory2    What does the "." mean?13:12
bekkshjud: . designates the current directory.13:13
loongson同志们,嫦娥三号已经成功降落到月球上了!13:13
hjudbekks: so "/directory1" is useless?13:14
k1l!ot | loongson13:14
ubottuloongson: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!13:14
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bekkshjud: No. /. at the end is useless13:14
cfhowlett!cn|loongson,13:15
ubottuloongson,: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw13:15
hjudbekks: I understand better now. Is there an option to continue to copy when there are files which can't be copied?13:16
asad2005Cin somone help resolve this conky problem, window doesnot display, the same conkyrc i was using and was ok before i fresh install ubuntu 13.1013:17
asad2005*Can13:17
bekkshjud: Not using cp, rsync does that automatically.13:17
Mark_de_J.13:17
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FloodBot1Mark_de_J: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.13:17
Mark_de_J.13:17
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FloodBot1Mark_de_J: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.13:17
hjudbekks, thks.13:18
MonkeyDustMark_de_J  gefdraag je of ga naar een ander kanaal13:18
Mark_de_JHeb geen bekks. ;)13:18
Mark_de_JMonkeyDust, stfu?13:18
Mark_de_Jhjud, gay!13:19
MyrttiMark_de_J: can you please behave?13:19
Mark_de_JMyrtti, get a life.13:19
Myrtti'ok'13:19
FloodBot1Mark_de_J: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.13:20
Mark_de_JGoing fuck myself13:21
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rgpewfdcjwqkldaweowfl;awef13:22
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ActionParsnipOh jees looks like its going to be a long day13:22
BluesKajhehr=e, almost a full moon I think13:23
unknwn_Mark_de_J bekkie dicht13:23
cfhowlettActionParsnip, prime example of why I could never be a mod; I'd need script to crawl through the internetz and force choke the stupid out of peopel13:28
unknwn_sometimes i just feel ashamed for people out of my country :(13:30
gordonjcpunknwn_: hm?13:30
unknwn_Mark_de_J13:31
unknwn_the guy who was ranting above13:31
gordonjcpoh13:31
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jenniewhat is this error I am getting ? and how to resolve it ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6572314/13:35
MonkeyDustjennie  guess it's no error, just a warning of some kind13:38
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varunendrajennie, I don't see any errors. Just one warning and warnings are usually just notifications, usually ignorable.13:38
MonkeyDustjennie  type    apt-cache show lsb    for more information on lsb13:38
StarvisitorHello13:39
StarvisitorI was wondering if there was a way to tell what the latest binary ati driver thats provided with ubuntu 13.10 by default13:40
jennieMonkeyDust, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6572328/13:40
StarvisitorIs there a way to see what version of binary ati driver ubuntu ships with?13:41
randomcppare ubuntu and launchpad servers down?13:43
william_hello13:44
StarvisitorIs there a way to see what version of binary ati driver ubuntu ships with?13:45
BluesKajStarvisitor, Radeon ?13:45
william_i need help with ts313:45
StarvisitorBluesKaj, Radeon hd 770013:45
StarvisitorBluesKaj, I want to know if ubuntu has the beta drivers13:46
StarvisitorI tryed the beta driver on opensuse and they are amazing13:46
Starvisitorbut they were also very easy to install on opensuse. Just one click RPM.13:46
william_can any  one help  me with teamspeak 313:47
Starvisitori would switch to ubuntu13:47
Starvisitorbut i dont know if they have a deb of the latest drivers13:47
alexGlaStarvisitor, why u need beta-drivers?13:47
StarvisitoralexGla, the ati beta drivers have amazing performance boost and im playing steam games13:48
BluesKajStarvisitor, afaik the xserver-xorg-video-radeon is the default driver, look for additional drivers in the software cebter13:48
BluesKajerr center13:48
Starvisitori know how to find the drivers13:48
Starvisitori just dont know what version they are13:48
william_so no one can help me then13:48
gordonjcp!anyone | william_13:49
ubottuwilliam_: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.13:49
BluesKajbeta drivers would proibly be in a ppa on launchpad , Starvisitor13:49
william_who knows how to install teamspeak 3 on unbuntu13:50
william_i did the terminal  CD Desktop13:51
william_then sh TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_amd64-3.0.13.1.run13:51
Starvisitorthe thing is I have no way of telling what version the driver is13:51
william_and install  but it will not  run13:52
william_still no one  can  help yet13:54
william_...13:54
william_!anyone | william_13:55
ubottuwilliam_, please see my private message13:55
william_..........13:57
william_does anybody  use teamspeak313:57
xtrizhow can i remap keys ?13:59
newdorkIs anyone having issues with Flash recently?14:01
xtriznewdork, no not me14:01
newdorkI think there was an error during an update and now I'm stuck with no flash and can't reinstall14:01
imghostnewdork: whats the output of dpkg -l | grep flashplugin-installer14:03
OerHeksnewdork, heard this before here, use chrome :-)14:03
asad2005Can somone help resolve this conky problem, window doesnot display, the same conkyrc i was using and was ok before i fresh install ubuntu 13.1014:06
OerHeksasad2005, is the conckyrc set as executable +x ?14:07
asad2005OerHeks: Not sure14:11
asad2005OerHeks: i chmod +x conkyrc file still same14:12
randomcppare ubuntu and launchpad servers down?14:15
MonkeyDustrandomcpp  no14:16
OerHeksrandomcpp, nope14:16
MonkeyDustrandomcpp  so it's you :)14:16
randomcppD:14:17
OerHeksasad2005, post your conkyrc op paste.ubuntu.com and we'll take a look14:17
oudersHello World!14:19
OerHekshi ouders14:20
gazellerunning no machine headless  on AWS EC2 ubuntu 13.10,  if i want xfce instead of gnome what do i change in this sentence  $ DISPLAY=:0 /etc/X11/Xsession gnome-session &14:20
oudersWhere can I post a question about the md5hash failure of my freshly downloaded Saucy Salamander image?14:20
tafkab76Hi! I have a problem mith an IDE Harddisk. It is properly recognized in the BIOS, but not by GParted. I already tried some tools like chkdsk, bootrec, dd, but nothing worked14:21
oudersHi Tafkab76 have you tried if lsblk or testdisk recognize the disk?14:22
OerHeksgazelle, i think "xfce4-session"14:22
bekksif lsblk doesnt show it, no other tool will.14:22
gazellethanks OerHeks14:22
asad2005OerHeks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6572562/14:22
OerHekselse xfce-session14:23
OerHeksasad2005, so what error do you get when you start conky from terminal?14:23
jaipwhich one do you guys prefer when you code? vim vs. emacs14:24
asad2005http://paste.ubuntu.com/6572578/14:25
tafkab76@ouders: no, just fdisk, which didn´t help. I will try those tools. I also stumble about a tool called dban14:25
asad2005OerHeks: Conky: desktop window (2400006) is subwindow of root window (2db)14:25
tafkab76lsblk shows sr0 (probably the dvd drive) and loop0?14:27
Guest48876Hi, I have a large folder with a huge amount of subfolders on a ext4-partition. I want to move the whole directory to a Windows machine. How can I list all invaild file names for NTFS?14:28
nikolaaa1Hello14:28
nikolaaa1I'm having wine problems.14:28
nikolaaa1uTorrent wont work on wine.14:28
MonkeyDustnikolaaa1  try deluge, from the software center14:29
OerHeksasad2005, not sure what causes that error14:29
nikolaaa1Ok thanks Monkey!14:29
Guest48876someone?14:29
nikolaaa1Is there a possible way to get back to gnome-2?14:29
MonkeyDustnikolaaa1  why do you use some many windows programs in ubuntu?14:29
nikolaaa1Monkey, not sure, maybe cause they are much more better.14:30
oudersAnyone a suggestion why my md5hash check fails after multiple tries of downloading it from cd.image.ubuntu.com?14:30
randomcppthat's funny.. I can access ubuntu.com and launchpad.net with a proxy but not with direct connection14:30
MonkeyDustnikolaaa1  there's fallback, or ubuntu classic, that looks like gnome214:30
nikolaaa1So you cant reinstall gnome-2 in terminal or something?14:30
ouderstypo: cd.image was cdimage though14:31
OerHeksouders, try to download the official torrent, http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/14:32
pac1we're back  64 bits this time...14:32
ouders@OerHeks thanks i will try it straight away now14:32
MonkeyDustnikolaaa1  "For  GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages  will place entries in the Sessions dropdown."14:32
tafkab76_sorry, my notebook ran out of battery.14:32
nikolaaa1ok.14:32
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tafkab76_I guess loop= is not my HD?14:33
tafkab76_loop014:33
foofoobarHi. I'm on 12.04. Is there a way to upgrade directly to 13.10 or do I have to do it step by step (12.04 -> 12.10 -> 13.04 -> 13.10) ?14:33
apt-get_installI have a large folder with a huge amount of subfolders on a ext4-partition. I want to move the whole directory to a Windows machine. How can I list all invaild file names for NTFS?14:34
OerHeksapt-get_install, maybe this answer is any help > http://superuser.com/questions/280299/script-to-convert-ext4-filenames-to-ntfs14:35
nikolaaa1how to run jar files?14:35
nikolaaa1I installed java.14:35
nikolaaa1java -jar?14:35
nikolaaa1??14:36
OerHeksjava -jar - <filename > .jar14:36
OerHeksthat was easy to find, basic stuff14:37
nikolaaa1Thanks.14:37
nikolaaa1Debian deleted my whole hard drive ._.14:37
nikolaaa1i promise i'll never install it again.14:37
nikolaaa1:314:37
nikolaaa1Debian is evil14:38
jaip...14:38
apt-get_installOerHeks: thanks, but i only want to list them14:39
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benishorhello. I'm having a very annoying problem with 13.10 audio. I get some background noise whenever I attempt to play streamed audio14:41
OerHeksapt-get_install, i am not sure how, if you don't find an answer here, try #bash channel too14:41
benishorthe stream gets played but it's filled with noise14:41
benishoranybody else ran into that?14:41
apt-get_installOerHeks: i might found an answer in an other channel14:42
apt-get_installthanks anyway14:42
OerHeksoke, have fun :-)14:42
benishormy card is Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: VT1708S Analog [VT1708S Analog]14:43
benishorcan someone please help?14:43
OerHeksbenishor, there is a sound problem page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure and more help http://askubuntu.com/questions/64184/noise-problems-when-playing-any-sound-on-laptops-or-when-using-any-sound-apps14:47
OerHekssound always works fine here14:47
benishorOerHeks: thank you for the hints14:48
mah454the koding.com is opensource project ?14:56
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randomcppI still can't connect to ubuntu servers :/ any idea?14:58
OerHeksmah454, if their coding is opensource, yes, it is just a collaboration service14:59
OerHeksas far as i can read14:59
yeatsrandomcpp: can you get to 91.189.94.156?14:59
mah454OerHeks: How can download this ? I need create local cloud coding project .14:59
randomcppyeats, yes15:00
yeatsrandomcpp: then it's a DNS issu15:00
yeatse15:00
OerHeksmah454, not, it is just a service. there are other cloud ways, like opencloud, to host it yourself15:00
randomcppyeats, who should I blame?15:01
kader????15:01
yeatsrandomcpp: check your DNS settings - you might try changing your DNS servers to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.415:02
randomcppwell I can ping 91.189.94.156 but I cannot load this address in browsers, it redirects to www.ubuntu.com15:02
asad2005Where can i found a default conkyrc that i can use and modify for ubuntu 13.1015:02
BluesKajrandomcpp, that's IP for ubuntu.com15:03
BluesKajrandomcpp, that's normal .don't see what dns has to do with it if he can load ubuntu.com15:04
BluesKajyou rather :)15:04
OerHeksasad2005, 2250 pages with conky examples > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865&page=225015:04
OerHeksbiggest tread it hink15:05
OerHeks* i think15:05
BluesKajrandomcpp, are saying you can't reach the repositories when updating / upgrading with apt-get?15:06
OerHeksasad2005, else there is a conkymanager >> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/07/conky-manager-gui-for-managing-conky.html15:06
randomgcBluesKaj, I couldn't reach ubuntu servers at all15:06
randomgcBluesKaj, yeats changing dns servers in router config did the trick15:07
randomgcnow I can access ubuntu servers15:07
randomgcthat's strange though15:07
randomgcuntil yesterday everything worked flawlessly..15:08
yeatsrandomgc: bad dns is not uncommon at all - it's should work now15:08
BluesKajrandomgc, run sudo apt-get update ..see what happens15:09
randomgcBluesKaj, everything works now..15:10
BluesKajrandomgc, ok15:10
ouders@OerHeks Yes, downloaded tusing the .torrent and that went very well. Is the .iso itself compromized?15:10
wiehanwhat does the "portthru" under my wireless network mean?15:11
BluesKajrandomgc, you should thank yeats :)15:11
wiehaninstead of having a wifi signal strength next to it it has 2 pc screens15:11
randomgcthanks yeats :) I think I have to learn more about dns servers :/15:11
OerHeksouders, not sure, it sounds like the last packet never arrives. seen this before.15:13
BluesKajopendns is also good dns service , prefer it to google15:13
randomgcpreviously dns servers were automatically chosen by the modem/router15:14
stevenliuhello15:16
william_does any one use virtual box here15:18
BluesKajrandomgc, yes unless you have the manual option , some older router modems don't15:18
stevenliuhello15:19
onetinsoldierhi15:19
william_hello Steven15:19
BluesKajwilliam_, I tried it for a while , not my cuppa tea , prefer to dual boot15:19
william_lol well blue i cant get teamspeak 3 to run on my ubuntu15:20
darnell82Just trying to figure out if when installing ubuntu I wrote over my windows files. How can I check?15:21
amireldorHow do I configure the top/left corner to initiate a 'Super+W' on Unity (12.04)?15:21
amireldordarnell82, there's a program called `gparted` which visually shows you your partition. You can try looking for your windows partition there15:22
william_is any one good with virtual box or teamspeak 315:23
ikoniawilliam_: just ask the question as you can't really be "good" with team speak15:23
william_well installing on ubuntu  ikonia15:24
onetinsoldierare you getting an error trying to install it or something?15:25
william_will not run15:25
BluesKajwlli do you have both client and server installed ?15:25
BluesKajwilliam_,^15:26
darnell82amireldor, where do I find the gparted program?15:26
william_no15:26
william_client15:26
BluesKajwilliam_, you should have both for 2 way communication afaik15:27
william_i did terminal CD desktop      sh *ts3*15:27
amireldordarnell82, open the software center and search for `gparted`; if you didn't change your launcher icons on the left side of your screen the software center should be an orange suitcase with funny things coming out of it15:27
darnell82Thanks, amireldor15:28
amireldordarnell82, sure :)15:28
william_now that i have both client  and server what do i do15:31
william_when i right click then click run it does nothing15:32
BluesKajwilliam_, open a terminal where you downloaded the file , then sudo sh ./nameofpackage.run15:36
WebVisitor-2Got a System76 Darter. Any hints on getting max use out of the touchscreen?15:38
william_sh ./nameofpackage.run --- so keep the ./15:38
BluesKajwilliam_, yes15:39
RootManHi15:41
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william_i did that and     sh /home/william/Desktop/TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_amd6415:42
william_basically  its the same15:43
william_it puts a folder on the desk top15:43
william_it still dont run15:45
linuxusrhello15:47
william_hello15:47
linuxusrI know I can run programs like root15:47
linuxusrbut for run programs like another user ?15:47
william_ummm15:48
linuxusrlike "su user 'program'"15:48
linuxusrgiveme a error15:48
MonkeyDustlinuxusr  create other user, su [that user]  <-- su means 'switch user'15:48
[Gentoo]try sudo -u user command15:49
linuxusryeah, but I do that and the term give me "no protocol spified " cant open display 2015:50
[Gentoo]what program is it btw15:50
linuxusrfirefox15:50
rahuleshi, I'm having trouble with the software center app. It closes instantly after it is open.. I have tried removing files in the cache(/home/user/cache/software-center), tried reinstalling but both didn't work.15:50
[Gentoo]linuxusr: is it a security thing?15:51
linuxusrmake this is posible? for root works...15:51
yeatsrahules: do you see anything when you run 'software-center' from the terminal?15:51
linuxusrsomething between ... is for use the bookmarks of another account without had internet in the same account15:51
linuxusris like follow: I had one account without inet and important data, I "shutdown" internet with iptables in that account15:53
linuxusrthen I wish use the firefox of the another account, thats could evit the firefox or applets acces to my home files15:53
linuxusrusing the another account, sounds logic?15:53
[Gentoo]linuxusr: im confused :s15:54
[Gentoo]you want to run it in restriced env?15:55
linuxusrsomething else, but i not need any special feature15:55
pccasaHello. I've got a question. Why is Ubuntu-touch at the repositories if we cannot install it?15:56
linuxusras far like i know, I can run programs like another users on terminal15:56
linuxusrfor root works, can be made the same with grafical apps?15:56
linuxusrbut with normal userS?15:56
andyhuzhilltest15:58
[Gentoo]linuxusr: tbh I haven't tried with graphical apps, maybe something to do with the $DISPLAY if you get that error when running sudo -u user command16:00
linuxusr[Gentoo] i think the same , but for the moment no clue... like root works...16:03
linuxusrthanks you16:03
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Tonight0.016:16
NuSueyanyone got an idea why I got a large list of possible missing firmware when I apt-get upgraded? "W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/radeon/BARTS_smc.bin for module radeon" ..for example16:18
Abhijithow do i prevent ubuntu from overwriting grub mbr each time it installs some update?16:18
malinuswhat is the name of the ubuntu desktop manager?16:20
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capy!»óÅÂ16:24
JanhouseSo, I set up ubuntu server and lxc and was wondering if the IP addresses stay the same after rebooting lxc.16:24
Abhijitmalinus, unity16:24
carlosdavid12345616:24
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TylerHello16:25
TylerAnybody there?16:25
xenopusHello16:26
TylerHello16:27
malinusAbhijit, no, that's the name of the whole DE. What is the name of the software that manages your DE's.16:28
nkhodyunyaHi, I have fresh installation of Ubuntu 13.10 with package updates, I've installed php5-fpm with sudo apt-get install php5-fpm and now when i run sudo service php5-fpm status i get "Unknown job: php5-fpm" error. Need workaround.16:28
malinusit's name could include unity, it could be something like unity-de-manager16:28
TylerI need to set up a webcaching proxy for another device in my network, can someone help me?16:29
koellwow, lubuntu is so much faster! its like ..... BAAAAM!16:29
geirhamalinus: lightdm16:29
malinusgeirha, thank you16:30
TylerI wish to push a local file transparently to the other device16:31
TylerIt's greater than 1 GB and I intend to save my internet bandwidth by using this workaround16:32
Tyler*internet bandwidth and time16:32
ikoniayou're not making any sense16:32
ikoniaor giving any clear requirements16:33
TylerSorry, let me try to explain my requirements better16:33
TylerThere's a PS3 connected to my wireless network at home16:34
Abhijitmalinator, gdm16:34
Abhijitor lightdm maybe16:34
TylerThere's a > 1 GB update file that I wish to transfer to it16:35
TylerBut PS3 doesn't accept update files locally, unless it's a system update file16:35
ikoniahow is this an ubuntu issue ?16:36
IdleOneTyler: how does this relate to ubuntu?16:36
TylerI'm getting to it16:36
TylerSo I wish to setup a webcaching proxy server on my Ubuntu server16:36
TylerThat will intermediate all the requests between the PS3 and the internet16:37
ikoniaTyler: don't see how that will help you get that 1GB file onto your PS3 as it's not an update file16:37
TylerIt's an game update file, not a system update file16:37
ikoniayes, but you said you can't transfer files onto it unless it's an update file16:38
koellIs it possible to use avahi-daemon without ".local" suffix?16:38
ikoniaand to be honest, I don't see how a web cache would help - as you still have to download the file16:38
IdleOneSetting aside this isn't an ubuntu issue. Why can't you just connect the PS3 to the internet and download the file you need/want?16:38
ikoniathis is what I don't understand, if the PS3 downloads 1GB, or the web cache downloads 1GB - it's still downloading 1GB16:39
TylerI will make PS3 request the update file through the system OS, while Ubuntu server would forware the cached file to the PS3 locally, without requesting and downloading it from the main server16:39
ikoniaTyler: got to be honest, I don't really believe what you are saying as it makes no sense16:39
TylerYes, but PS3 won't be downloading from the main server, rather locally16:39
IdleOneTyler: why can't you download with the PS3 connected?16:40
ikoniaTyler: yes, but the local server will still have to download it, so it still 1GB on your bandwidth16:40
ikoniaso you're not saving any badwidth, you are still downloading 1GB but just making it harder to get it to the PS316:40
TylerNo the file has already been downloaded on the Ubuntu machine16:40
TylerThe bandwidth has already been spent16:41
TylerAnd there are no worries about spending the local bandwidth because it's unlimited16:41
TylerDo you understand?16:41
ikoniaof course local bandwidth is unlimited, it's local16:41
TylerLocal bandwidth is unlimited because there's no ISP serving and charging for it16:41
koellWTF Mark Shuttleworth with a beard? REALLY? OMG16:41
TylerFinally16:41
ikoniaTyler: to be honest, I think you are trying to do a crazy setup for no value16:41
TylerThe value is, that I'm saving my bandwidth and time16:42
ikoniakoell: not of interest to this channel16:42
IdleOneTyler: ok, so it sounds like a PS3 limitation, and trying to fool Sony (the PS3) into downloading from a proxy does not sound legit to me to download16:42
TylerAnd this setup is gonna save me a lot of headache in future, given that I am successfully able to implement it16:42
ikoniaTyler: you may as well just download this 1 file again rather than a convoluted setup that will only help you once16:42
ikoniaTyler: how will it save you anything in the future ?16:42
ikoniaTyler: you will still have to download future files,16:43
TylerIt's nothing new, it's just a webcaching proxy server, that serves data locally, had it been cached already16:43
ikoniaTyler: there i no benifit of this setup other than this one file and for the sake of this one file, this setup is over the top16:43
gordonjcpTyler: what exactly are you trying to do?16:43
TylerThe future files, I can download using Ubuntu machine using better download management and better speeds16:43
IdleOneTyler: it won't save you any time, in fact it will increase the wait time. You will first have to download the file to the server and then get the file from the server.16:44
ikoniaTyler: there will be no better speeds/download management16:44
TylerYou don't know PS3 it seems16:44
ikoniaTyler: the ps3 does checksumming and recovery of crashed downloads16:44
TylerPS3 is a very notorious device when it comes to downloading and installing updates16:44
xtrizwhy i can't remap keys ? the key gets mapped but the behaviour is undesirable, i.e. single key act as escape as well as caps16:44
xtrizis that i am using wireless keyboard it matters ?16:45
TylerIt will use 1/3 of our network bandwidth at any given time, without you having a clue16:45
gordonjcpTyler: just grab the update, put it on a USB stick, plug it into the P3S3 and have done with it16:45
ikoniaTyler: no it won't16:45
TylerGame updates can't be installed using USB16:45
ikoniaTyler: as if it needs to download a patch - it will download a patch, if it does it through a proxy, it will still use your bandwidth16:45
TylerPS3 is a very restricted and closed system16:45
ikoniaso there is no change, your bandwidth will still be used16:45
TylerYou're trying to question me more and more, rather than giving me a simple setup solution that I see as my best solution16:46
TylerI already know what I have to do16:46
TylerJust tell me how to do it16:46
ikoniaTyler: how are you getting games patches for the PS3 outside of the PS3 machines?16:46
TylerPS3 never uses your full internet bandwidth16:47
ikoniaTyler: sorry, that's just wrong, it does16:47
TylerIf your network disconnects at any time in between the download, it restarts the download of the file from the begining16:47
ikoniaTyler: how are you getting games files for the PS316:47
TylerI have a webcaching proxy on my windows that downloads it16:48
ikoniaTyler: from where ?16:48
TylerIt downloads the huge updates in the background, while I can use the PS3 system like normal16:48
ikoniaTyler: where are you getting the games patches direct downloads from16:48
TylerPSNDM is the name of the webcaching proxy available for Windows OSs16:49
ikoniaTyler: that is a propitary tool for windos16:50
TylerNo16:50
onitaLc:16:50
TylerThat is not developed by anyone belonging to Microsoft16:50
ikoniaTyler: I didn't say it was made by microsoft16:50
ikoniaTyler: I said it was a propitary tool for windows16:50
gordonjcpikonia: "proprietary"16:51
ikoniagordonjcp: that too16:51
IdleOneyou might try asking in #ps3linux16:51
gordonjcpikonia: yw16:51
TylerThan yes, it's propriet16:51
Tyler*propreity16:51
Tyler*propreitary16:51
IdleOnewe get it16:51
ikoniaTyler: if you look at what that does, it just downloads the file for you, then splits it, then feeds it to the PS316:51
TylerYes16:51
ikoniaTyler: there is no real benift to this in real world usage unless you have 10+ PS3's on the same network16:51
TylerIf it had no benefits, than I would not be here asking you for a similar setup for ubuntu16:52
TylerIf it had no benefits, the programmer that coded it would never have coded it for the masse16:52
gordonjcpTyler: what exactly are you trying to do here?16:52
gordonjcpspeed up PS3 updates?16:53
TylerYes16:53
gordonjcpthey only take a few minutes anyway16:53
TylerLet me go through the benefits16:53
gordonjcpkick the download off and leave it until it's done16:53
gordonjcpthere are no benefits16:53
gordonjcpjust let it download16:54
Tyler1. My ISP provides me with a slow internet, I can't afford to trust the network for uptimes16:54
gordonjcpso?16:54
gordonjcpit'll be just as slow downloading it onto a PC16:54
ikoniagordonjcp: he can't grasp this fact16:54
TylerI the network goes down during PS3 download, the PS3 system restarts downloading the file from the very beginning rather than resuming it16:55
ikoniagordonjcp: if it takes 1 hour to download a 1GB file on the PS3, it will take 1 hour to download a 1GB file on the PC, then he has the hassle of setting up and running a proxy to serve it16:55
Tyler2. PS3 uses 1/3 of the total bandwidth available16:55
ikoniaTyler: 2.) wrong16:55
gordonjcpTyler: no, it doesn't16:55
gordonjcpTyler: it resumes from where it left off16:55
TylerYes, it does16:55
ikoniaTyler: it uses %100 of my network16:55
ikoniaTyler: so your network must be setup wrong16:55
gordonjcpTyler: I can tell you it resumes from where it left off16:55
ikoniagordonjcp: I've already told him this, he doesn't believe me16:55
ikoniahence why what he wants to do is pointless16:56
ikoniaand on that note, I'll leave it alone16:56
TylerI'm the one experiencing the speeds that PS3 downloads files with, you can't dispute this with "me" the one who experiences it as first-hand16:56
gordonjcpTyler: is your PS3 hooked up over wireless?16:56
TylerAnd what about the downtime issue I made you aware of?16:56
gordonjcpwhat downtime issue?16:56
gordonjcpTyler: if your internet connection is down, neither your PC or the PS3 will be able to download16:57
TylerDon't you get it, if my internet gets disconnected while the PS3 is downloading a huge file, than there's no other way to resume the file from what already has been downloaded16:57
gordonjcpTyler: the PS3 resumes files if the download drops16:58
gordonjcpTyler: it's right there in the documentation16:58
TylerIf my internet connection is down, and if the file has already been cached on the proxy server, all I need is a 1kbops dialup internet connection to forward that file to the PS#, because local bandwidth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ISP bandwidth16:59
TylerPS3 only resume game files, not game update files16:59
ikoniaTyler: if the file is alrady downloaded...you don't need to move the file16:59
Tyler*resumes16:59
TylerWhy are you16:59
Tyler*trying to argue with me?16:59
gordonjcpokay, never mind then16:59
ikoniaTyler: because you're wrong16:59
TylerNope17:00
ikoniaTyler: and people are trying to save you time/effort/pain17:00
TylerI'm not17:00
ikoniaTyler: ok, good luck then17:00
TylerLet's argue then, let's waste some time17:00
gordonjcpTyler: a bunch of people in here are PS3 developers17:00
TylerIt seems you've so much of it17:00
TylerSure then17:00
TylerLet's argue17:00
ikonialets not17:00
gordonjcpobviously they can't go into specifics because of non-disclosure agreements17:00
TylerYou're saying PS3 downloads files using the full bandwidth that is available from the ISP?17:01
ikoniaTyler: you've had "FACT" given to you, and you disagree, that's fine, so you have a choice of accepting it, or making a crazy technical solution you think is better17:01
gordonjcpTyler: mine does, but I'm only on about 5Mbps17:01
TylerI'm saying, it's not the case17:01
ikoniaTyler: it's up to you what you do17:01
TylerFor me, atleast17:01
ikoniaTyler: that's why I said earlier - you may want to look at your network setup17:01
TylerIt just took me 5 days to download a game, had I downloaded it on my PC, it would've taken hardly a single day17:01
gordonjcpTyler: if your connection is that bad, I suggest you switch suppliers17:01
gordonjcpTyler: how is the PS3 connected to the network?17:02
ikoniaTyler: as I'm on a 80mb conection, and it uses 75mb, and I ended up putting qos rules on my network for this and other devices17:02
TylerI just have a single ISP available here17:02
nhorningneed some help with grub here17:02
TylerIt's connected using WiFi17:02
gordonjcpaha17:03
nhorningHi all I'm trying to use a USB drive to boot an ISO17:03
gordonjcpmine is *terrible* on wifi17:03
MonkeyDustTyler  so maybe it's wifi that drops, not the internet connection17:03
gordonjcpTyler: try hooking up an ethernet cable17:03
TylerIt's a G17:03
IdleOnewell, there is your problem17:03
TylerWhat can you expect :/17:03
nhorningOk, I'll type all at once17:03
IdleOneSo, please drop this PS3 discussion as it has nothing to do with Ubuntu. Thank you.17:03
gordonjcpTyler: my PS3 is one of the earliest ones and has problems with most wifi access points17:03
TylerI can't provide a NAT 1 to my PS317:03
TylerI don't care about PS3, I care about the issue, @IdleOne17:04
nhorningThe grub on my USB drive is booting from my main hard drive,  I need to change grub on the USB drive so that it boots from the ISO on the USB.  How do I do that?17:04
nhorningCan anyone help?17:04
ikoniaTyler: ok - here is your fix, download and setup squid proxy server17:04
ikoniaTyler: that's the proxy server you need to setup17:04
TylerBest way to implement webcaching proxy on Ubuntu?17:04
ikoniaTyler: good luck17:04
ikoniaTyler: just told you17:04
gordonjcpTyler: the first thing you need to fix is your connection to the PS317:05
TylerOkay17:05
IdleOneTyler: The issue has nothing to do with Ubuntu. That is what I care about. This is an Ubuntu support channel, not a "help me fix my PS3 problem" channel.17:05
gordonjcpTyler: you *must* have wired ethernet17:05
gordonjcpTyler: forget it even has wifi17:05
nhorningikonia:  can you help me with my grub problem?17:05
ikonianhorning: not really no17:05
gordonjcpnhorning: how did you create the USB stick?17:05
TylerTell me, how do I need to setup it so that it forwards the update files, rather then requesting them from the internet?17:05
ikoniaI'm returning to my Christmas shopping after wasting my time with Tyler17:05
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nhorninggordonjcp: instructions in pendrive linux17:05
ikoniaTyler: setup squid proxy, in the PS3 settings point at squid proxy as a proxy server17:06
TylerIf I could filter URLs that are needed to be server locally rather than requesting the remote server17:06
nhorninggordonjcp: but at some point I screwed up grub while I was working on a system17:06
nhorninggordonjcp: I think I updated it to think that it was sda or something17:06
nhorninggordonjcp: I really just want to remove it from the drive and reinstall it17:06
nhorninggordonjcp: from the USB that is17:07
Tylerikonia, you presume your knowledge is correct without even thinking it thoroughly17:07
nhorninggordonjcp: need it to work tomorrow for a demo17:07
Tyler*presumed17:07
ikoniaTyler: I "know" my knowledge is correct, because I have thought it through, however you can ignore it if you disagree17:07
Schrodinger`Catmeow17:07
TylerI didn't meant to ruin your Christmas17:07
TylerTell me then, how did you not know that PS3 can't resume update files?17:08
ikoniaTyler: I know it can because a.) I have a PS3 b.) it says it does it in the manual17:08
TylerHow did you not know PS3 downloads and installs, updates by going in a restricted mode?17:08
nhorninggordonjcp:  any ideas gordonjcp?17:08
ikoniaTyler: we did not talk about restircted mode, I don't know why you have just made that statement after that was not disussed at all17:09
TylerIf you knew than you didn't use it, lol17:09
TylerYou should've known, that's the point17:09
ikoniaTyler: known what ?17:09
TylerIf you pretend you know, than you should know17:09
eugene_I'am using ubuntu on the latest iMac and I have some troubles with sound: there is sound from the native speaker, but there is no sound from headphones when I plug them in. I have disabled automute in alsamixer, but that didn't help17:09
rootpti've got this machine with windows and one machine with ubuntu installed in virtualbox, how can a sen a message through the cmd (network) to the machine with ubuntu in the same network ?17:10
TylerWhy did you kick me?17:10
IdleOnebecause I asked you nicely to stop this discussion and you refuse.17:11
IdleOneNow please take it elsewhere.17:11
TylerIt seems childish first you tried to investigate every bit of my need rather than providing me a solution to the exact need17:11
TylerAnd than kicking me out because I'm making my points rather rationally?17:11
ikoniaTyler: I've given you an exact solution17:11
TylerI got it17:11
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IdleOneTyler: setup squid proxy, set correct proxy settings on your PS3. Done.17:12
IdleOneNow drop this off topic discussion.17:12
rahuleshi, I'm having trouble with the software center app. It closes instantly after it is open.. I have tried removing files in the cache(/home/user/cache/software-center), tried reinstalling but both didn't work.17:12
TylerDon't say things like "someone ruined you christmas" when your curiosity is the sole reason for that17:12
rahulesI have the terminal output here  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6572962/17:12
ikoniaTyler: no-one said that17:12
TylerOk, thanks17:12
rahuleshi, I'm having trouble with the software center app. It closes instantly after it is open.. I have tried removing files in the cache(/home/user/cache/software-center), tried reinstalling but both didn't work.I have the terminal output here:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6572962/17:12
rahulesusing ubuntu 13.0417:13
kostkonrahules, what's the errors you are getting17:13
TylerI'm sorry, for not staying cool for a little longer17:13
rahuleskostkon: nothing, it just flashes and disappears17:13
kostkonrahules, run it from the terminal17:13
kostkonrahules, the cmd is "software-center"17:13
rahuleskostkon: paste.ubuntu link http://paste.ubuntu.com/6572962/17:13
kostkonrahules, are you using the stock theme?17:14
kostkonrahules, if not, try changing to radiance or ambiance. same for your icon theme17:15
rahuleskostkon: no, i'm using numix theme17:15
MrJeromeHow can I keep unity from hijacking my sublime text shortcut keys? For example ctrl+alt+downarrow switches workspaces instead of the sublime command I want.17:15
kostkonrahules, revert back to the defaults then17:15
rahuleskostkon: okay. i'll try17:15
kostkonrahules, and see if that changes anything17:15
rahuleskostkon: nop. still exits instantly17:16
rootpti've got this machine with windows and one machine with ubuntu installed in virtualbox, how can a sen a message through the cmd (network) to the machine with ubuntu in the same network ?17:16
kostkonrahules, try logging out and logging back in17:16
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rahuleskostkon: okay17:17
Guest12900hey bro17:17
glitsj16MrJerome: have you tried disabling the shortcuts that you want to re-assign yourself through 'system settings' > 'keyboard' > 'shortcuts' yet?17:18
rahuleskostkon: still no luck. it's the same as before17:19
kostkonrahules, ok17:19
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Wiz_KeeDhey guys17:19
onetinsoldierhi17:20
Guest12900oii17:20
MrJeromeglitsj16: So I should just remap the unity shorctuts to something that doesn't conflict?17:21
glitsj16MrJerome: either remap or disable those yes, whatever your setup needs17:22
MrJeromeglitsj16: ok thank you17:23
glitsj16MrJerome: you can use the 'Custom Shortcuts' pane to map new ones17:23
glitsj16MrJerome: you're welcome17:23
kostkonrahules, have you installed anything from 3rd party ppas by any chance17:25
rahuleskostkon: `yes, actually, i have a few of them17:25
kostkonrahules, could be the culprit. have you installed another desktop environment using one of those ppas for example?17:27
tjbiddleAnyone have experience with converting ~60 y/o parents from Windows to an Ubuntu Desktop machine?17:27
rahuleskostkon: nop. just some apps that i needed and a few themes17:28
tjbiddleI've gotten tired of cleaning up their computer every time I visit, lol17:28
kostkonrahules, you could try purging the ppas providing those themes. at least you could give it a try. it's easy with ppa-purge17:29
kostkon!ppa-purge17:29
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html17:29
rahulesOkay kostkon , will try purging the ppas. It should be ok if i used y-ppa manager right?17:29
kostkonrahules, haven't used it. no idea what it does exactly17:30
rahuleskostkon: ah it's just a GUI for the different ppa commands. Anyways, thanks for your help. I'll try purging the ppa's and see if ti works17:31
evilbugtjbiddle: i've switched my dad and grandpa to ubuntu.17:33
tjbiddleevilbug: Sounds promising. I think my Dad could handle it - Not sure about Mom though. She's confused enough with her Nexus 5 & 10, lol17:34
evilbugtjbiddle: so she's confused with tech in general.17:35
evilbugtjbiddle: the argument for my dad was that it's much more stable and efficient than windows plus he doesn't need to worry about viruses.17:35
CeliaStuford I'm 18 F UK :) Sellinn' show and pics by :D Skype: Celia.Stuford17:36
evilbugCeliaStuford: omg that's so hot!17:36
kostkonCeliaStuford, wrong channel17:36
step1Hallo - I have a question about evolution. Is this the right place to ask?17:37
evilbugtjbiddle: for my grandpa... well he doesn't care what os he's on as long as he has internet stuff.17:37
evilbugtjbiddle: one thing i would've done differently though would be to go for xubuntu since unity is quite crap.17:37
dracnocstep1: I might be able to help with evolution.17:38
step1The question is: the behavoir of the "delete" button seems to have changed. Now if I delete a message all read messages seem to be deleted.17:39
tjbiddleevilbug: I'll keep it in mind. Thanks!17:40
step1Have I changed the configuration without noticing it?17:40
evilbugtjbiddle: good luck.17:40
dracnocstep1: ... that's a new one on me. changing the configuration would require several steps and i think you would have noticed it.17:40
dracnocstep1: are you sure you're not selecting/highlighting several emails at once?17:41
step1no. I select a few mails one after the other, then press delete and they all disappear17:43
dracnocstep1: hmmm.... it's the only thing i can think of. in order for several emails to be deleted at the same time/pressing delete only once, then they would all have to be selected at the same time.17:44
dracnocstep1: are you using a trackpad? could there be some issue with that perhaps?17:45
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pingus81salve, ho cambiato l'immagine di sfondo e ovviamente cambia anche al login, però prima che carica l'immagine di un colore diverso mi compare per un istante il viola. Odio il viola come posso fare?17:45
gordonjcp!it | pingus8117:46
ubottupingus81: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)17:46
step1dracnoc: no just a mouse. Is there somewhere where you can see which commands are connected to which key?17:46
pingus81sorry ubottu17:46
dracnocstep1: key commands - do you mean the system as a whole not just evolution? then go to Dash and type "keyboard", you should see an app with the same name. Select that and click on the shortcuts tab.17:48
J-EscobarHello, I recently was having some hard drive failure on my primary drive. This was a 2tb drive. I went and got a good deal on a new 3tb drive. I tried using clonezilla to copy everything to the new drive but it failed. So I booted up a live cd and used ddrescue to copy to the new 3tb drive and that worked. The only issue now is that I have 1tb of unallocated space. So I tried using gparted to resize the extended partition and move the s17:50
J-Escobarall the way to the right. Then resized the extended all the way to the right and resized my primary partition to use up the unallocated space. That failed "Can't have overlapping partitions. So I was trying to figure that out when I accidentally made my swap the full 1tb. So I tried resizing everything back to the way it was. Now disk utility is saying the extended and swap are misaligned. I really want to get everything aligned and get17:50
J-Escobarprimary partition resized to use the full 3tb of the drive. Can anyone help me accomplish this? Here is what frisk -l is showing for my primary drive now http://paste.ubuntu.com/657357217:50
dracnocstep1: if you just mean evolution shortcuts, then go to evolution, click on Help -> Quick Reference17:50
dcopei've just created an init.d script to power haproxy but whenever i try to start it nothing happens. nothing gets logged and nothing gets written to stdout. what's going on?17:51
dcopeit has proper 755 permissions17:51
TheRealBacondcope what version of ubuntu are you running?17:52
dcopeTheRealBacon: 12.0417:52
TheRealBacondcope, what command are you using to execute the script?17:53
dcopeTheRealBacon: /etc/init.d/haproxy start17:54
TheRealBacondid you try to change directory into /etc/init.d/ and then ./haproxy start?17:54
dcopeTheRealBacon: yep, doesn't work.17:55
dcopeit's weird because i've done this on another 12.04 server just fine before17:55
TheRealBaconyou're in the correct group to execute it, right?17:55
dcopeyep, logged in as root17:55
TheRealBaconlog out of root17:55
TheRealBaconsudo to execute it17:55
TheRealBacontell me the result17:55
dcopestill nothing :(17:56
dcopeat the bare minimum stuff should be written to stdout wtf :(17:56
TheRealBacondo u see anything in syslog17:56
TheRealBaconor messages17:56
dcopeTheRealBacon: nothing of interest in there17:56
TheRealBaconapparmor getting in the way?17:56
step1dracnoc: Thanks for your help. I've found the solution. I had the messages filtered for unread messages. Problems are often solved just by talking to someone else.17:57
afraxhi :)17:57
dracnocstep1: oh! they weren't being deleted after all, just hidden from view with the filter...17:57
dracnocstep1: hey, we've all been there. no worries.17:57
afraxwhat on linux palyng minecraft ? :D17:58
glitsj16dcope: did you enable haproxy to start in /etc/default/haproxy?18:01
rodhello18:01
puff`is there any way to see the history of updates to a certain package?18:03
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Hassen???18:05
PR1M3-1NST1NCTwow18:05
Wiz_KeeDouch!18:05
PR1M3-1NST1NCTddos?18:05
puff`Is there any way to see the history of updates to a certain package?18:06
PR1M3-1NST1NCTlol18:06
Wiz_KeeDcould it be netslipt eventhough it wasn't categorised as it?18:06
dracnocthat was fun... do it again!18:06
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glitsj16puff: /var/log/history.log and its .gz's should be having that info, allthough not organised by package18:08
puffglitsj16: Thanks.18:08
glitsj16puff: /var/log/apt/history.log, correction18:09
dracnocpuff: use the Software Center. Click on History at the top, and use the search tool to find the package you're interested in.18:10
puffdracnoc: Thanks.18:11
dracnocpuff: :-)18:11
TheRealBacondcope: sorry, I got disconnected.  Was apparmor getting in the way?18:13
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monsoorhello18:16
benbbsup18:16
dracnochiya18:16
kostkonmonsoor, hi18:16
monsoorHi, is this the right channel to ask help regarding virtualbox issues on ubuntu18:17
benbbWhat's your problem?18:18
monsoorI cant get the virtualbox started after installation18:18
benbbAny errors?18:18
monsoorit gives error message VirtualBox: supR3HardenedMainGetTrustedMain: dlopen("/usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBox.so",) failed: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libQtOpenGL.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZNK14QWidgetPrivate17hasHeightForWidthEv18:18
benbbHuh. That's strange.18:19
kostkonmonsoor, what version of ubuntu are you on18:19
monsoorCurrently on 13.10.  just upgrades18:19
monsoorjust upgraded18:19
monsoorit was fine on 12.0418:19
benbbHave you done a system update yet?18:19
kostkonmonsoor, how did you install it18:20
benbbI once had Vbox issues and that seemed to sort things out.18:20
monsooryes, its all current18:20
benbbDid you reboot when it asked you to?18:20
benbb(The ubuntu updater)18:20
kostkonmonsoor, from the usc or from their repo?18:20
monsoori installed using the sudo commands18:20
dracnocmonsoor: nvidia or ati card?18:21
kostkonmonsoor, i would suggest cleaning your cache (sudo apt-get clean) and then reinstalling it18:21
monsoori am new to linux. I dont understand usc or repo.  Please18:21
puffdracnoc, glitsj16, oddly enough, software center history shows no changes between Oct 12 and Dec 1, but I remember a bunch of updates in november (and /var/log/apt/history1.log shows them).18:21
benbbYou used sudo commands but don't understand?18:21
benbbYou should just be using VirtualBox.18:21
kostkonmonsoor, if you want the latest you can use their official repo or just grab the deb -> https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads18:21
benbb* Software Centre.18:22
benbbTry a deb from kostkon's link18:22
monsoorI will try the cleaning.  just a min.  Just for info , i purged earlier installations before the recent install.18:22
kostkonmonsoor, how recent?18:22
benbbFYI: USC means Ubuntu Software Centre.18:22
dracnocpuff: ... i'm not sure what that means for your system. are you having a problem with a particular package?18:22
monsoorcouple of days ago18:22
kostkonmonsoor, hmm ok18:22
glitsj16puff: i'm afraid i don't use the software center, but your logs do have them, go with that info i'd say18:23
monsoorcan u please repeat the commands for the clean18:23
puffdracnoc: I'm trying to figure out what caused this problem that's spiking my xorg to 103% CPU usage (according to top).18:24
dracnocpuff: i agree with glitsj16. the history in the software center is useful, but the logs are the real thing. go with them.18:24
monsoorI am trying the sudo apt-get clean and reinstalling.18:24
puffHow do I figure out what nvidia driver I'm using?  In the past it was a particular install process for proprietary vs. nouveau...18:24
bish0p_are there any programs like truecrypt that use the terminal?18:25
dracnocpuff: if you have the nvidia control panel installed, it will tell you there.18:25
dracnocpuff: nvidia-settings    (in a console)18:26
benbbbish0p_ : http://www.truecrypt.org/docs/command-line-usage18:26
puffdracnoc: Not installed.18:26
bish0p_huh, didn't see that. thanks, benbb18:26
puffdracnoc: dpkg -l | fgrep -i nvidia -> nothing.18:26
puffdracnoc: dpkg -l | fgrep -i driver -> nouveau shows up18:26
dracnocpuff: dpkg -l | grep nvidia18:26
puffdracnoc: I just did...18:27
benbbnp bish0p_18:27
TedI have a 256gb SSD, and a 1TB hard-drive. How can I use 256gb SSD just for my Linux distro and the 1TB for my data files?18:27
dracnocpuff: lol. comment collision! looks like the main nvidia drivers are not installed.18:28
puffdracnoc: Yeah.18:28
dracnoci'm not sure how the nouveau drivers will behave on your system. you might want to consider switching over.18:28
puffdracnoc: When I last mucked with that it was a tricksy and perilous processs... is it easier to install the binary drivers now?18:28
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glitsj16puff: you can see your current driver in use with lspci -k | egrep 'VGA|use' | grep VGA -A 1, just to double-check18:28
puffglitsj16: Thanks.18:29
dracnocpuff:what nividia card do you have? the installer is a breeze these days18:29
benbbIt's often a pain to use the nvidia installer crap18:29
benbbConflicts with Nouveau a lot18:29
edza101How do you find the identifier for example: an external display?18:30
puff00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) Kernel driver in use: i91518:30
dracnocpuff: is that the onboard graphics?18:31
glitsj16puff: looks like you have a hybrid18:31
puffdracnoc: I'm thinking yes.18:31
puffdracnoc: Yeah, I have a thinkpad with optimus. Hm.18:31
Guest27584Seems to be more support for the newer generation of Nvidia Cards than the old18:31
jamiejacksonhi folks. i've got 12.04, and would like to upgrade it. seems wise to go one version at a time. true? if so, how do i go, say, from 12.04 to 12.10?18:31
puffjamiejackson: Don't do it man!18:32
glitsj16edza101: you mean identifier like LVDS-0, HDMI-0 etc? if so xrandr can show that18:32
jamiejacksonpuff: don't do what?18:32
MonkeyDustjamiejackson  my advice: wait until April, you'll have a new LTS ubuntu18:32
edza101glitsj16: thanks alot18:32
puffjamiejackson:  Just (semi) kidding. I upgraded to 13.04 and I'm still kinda sorry that I left LTS.18:32
kostkonjamiejackson, you will be able to upgrade directly to 14.04 in april18:32
dracnocpuff: damn. optimus doesn't have a good history with ubuntu nvidia drivers18:33
MonkeyDustpuff  i returned to 12.04 LTS, never been happier18:33
jamiejacksonpuff, MonkeyDust, kostkon : okay, i hear you. i'll wait, thanks.18:33
puffIt's weird, dpkg shows the nouveau drivers, but lspci shows I'm using intel?18:33
edza101glitsj16: my monitor doesnt show up on xrandr output, I have it connected to my computer by a HDMI cable.18:33
Nach0zpuff: you on a laptop?18:33
Nach0zwith switchable graphics when you're in Windows?18:34
dracnocpuff: this link might help - http://askubuntu.com/questions/202644/how-to-install-nvidia-optimus-driver18:34
puffNach0z: Yeah, thinkpad t520 with nvidia optimus.18:34
Nach0zoic18:34
Nach0zlaptop graphics suck to work with18:34
puffNach0z: Tell me about it.18:34
edza101puff: tried using bumblebee18:34
puffedza101: I lost a week down that rabbithole back in september, not sure I want to tackle it again.18:35
edza101puff: it does work ... I have it running atm with an optimus card18:35
puffedza101: Although I *would* like to get my HDMI out working.18:35
puffedza101: What model laptop?18:35
edza101puff: custom, with a 540m nvidia card18:36
puffcustom laptop?18:36
puffThat's weird.18:36
edza101puff: stitched together old parts ._.18:36
Guest27584Only problem i'm having with Nouveau is i'm unable to play any games like DOTA2 or Path of Exile for example18:36
edza101puff: saving up though :)18:36
puffedza101: Ah... okay.  I highly, highly recommend t-series thinkpads.18:37
puffedza101: Corporations buy them in droves, then replace them when they're 3-4 years old.  But being a thinkpad T series (the T stands for Transportable, but it might as well stand for Tough) they are in far better shape than most 3-4 year old laptops.18:37
Guest27584I've got Nvidia GeForce 310M18:37
puffHmmmm: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Latest-Nvidia-Drivers-in-Ubuntu-13-04-350497.shtml18:38
Calinou310M is not optimus, I think18:38
Guest27584No its not dont think Nvidia are really supporting 310M18:38
puffOptimus on the thinkpad is a pain, though.18:38
Calinouthey are18:38
Calinoubut the 310M is a really low end and old card, and a rebranded one, and a mobile one...18:39
edza101Calinou: Im sure all m series cards are optimus18:39
puffThey did werid things to the video hardware.18:39
Calinouedza101, no not at all18:39
Calinoufor instance, 8400M or 9600M are not optimus18:39
CalinouI think optimus starts with fermi cards... (400M)18:39
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Calinoupuff, optimus implementations are generally the same around laptops these days18:40
edza101Calinou: thats odd, I seem to remeber getting an old 380m18:40
edza101and it was optimus18:40
Calinou380M?18:40
Calinouvery unlikely to see18:40
Calinou"300" series was a series of rebrand, usually for low end market18:41
CalinouI doubt there was anything mid or high end18:41
glitsj16Guest27584: 310M is very well support by the nvidia driver in the regular repo's, girlfriend's laptop has one, works fine18:41
edza101Calinou: it was from an old school recycle18:41
puffCalinou: That's good to hear, but a year or two ago, if you set the BIOS setting to purely the onboard intel chipset, it cut the external video port completely out of the loop.18:42
Calinouedza101, I doubt a school laptop would have a high end card18:42
Guest27584ahh ok thats good guess I just have to find the right driver version18:42
glitsj16Guest27584: what version of ubuntu are you using this card on?18:42
Guest27584I am currently using 13.1018:43
Guest27584304 works but is limited and 319 doesnt work at all18:43
puffHm.... "Know that The Nvidia card is not compatible with Unity 3D. The Intel HD 3000 is. That >means that if you're using Unity 3D now, it's the Intel card which is in use. And the fact The Graphics Driver name does not appear in Systems Settings (Details)," from: http://askubuntu.com/questions/126369/nvidia-doesnt-show-up-in-additional-driver-power-regression-issue-in-ubuntu-118:43
Guest27584but I know there are more versions out there and I'm in the process of finding the right one18:43
glitsj16Guest27584: then i'd go for nvidia-current before trying PPA's, should be fine18:44
giorgio1987!ciao18:44
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Guest27584yes i've tried the Nvidia Current and it gives me 304, 304-updates, 319-tested, 319-updates and thats it18:44
puffSo maybe nvidia's not showing up in lspci because I'm in unity?18:44
edza101glitsj16: my monitor is not showing up on xrandr ... Its connected by a HDMI port18:45
imghostpuff, paste the output of lspci -vvnn | grep VGA18:45
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jamiejacksonHey, Folks18:47
glitsj16guest27584: if 319 isn't working, you might try 331.20, the very latest from https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates if you're comfortable to try PPA's18:48
puffimghost: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6573908/18:48
Guest27584THanks for that18:48
glitsj16edza101: perhaps try disconnecting the hdmi, plugging it back in and run xrandr again, can't really help more i'm afraid18:48
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imghostpuff, paste the output of sudo lshw18:50
imghostpudim, also of lspci -v18:50
imghostpuff, also of lspci -v18:51
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Guest27584Hi glitsjl6 how do I go about installing your recommendation?18:52
Wiz_KeeDCan anyone help me place a automatic command on boot to set synclient touchpad parameters?18:54
puffimghost: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6573941/18:54
Wiz_KeeDpretty please?18:54
Guest27584I mean I know how to install i'm not familiar with the naming for this particular driver 331.20.  Is it something like this - Nividia-Linux-x86_64-331.20.run?18:55
glitsj16Guest27584: i always do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade before adding a PPA, but that's not necessary i believe, old habit .. after that run sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates to get the new package info onto your system, run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get update again18:55
Guest27584run the update process twice?18:56
puffWiz_KeeD: This looks relevant: http://askubuntu.com/questions/290009/how-do-i-make-my-synclient-settings-stick-ubuntu-13-0418:56
geirhathe last "update" was probably meant to be "upgrade"18:56
glitsj16Guest27584: i use it as a precaution just in case you later decide to purge the PPA without getting into dependency hell18:56
Guest27584ahh ok18:57
glitsj16geirha: correct, thx for that :)18:57
Guest27584I did sudo apt-get upgrade and its revealed an update to nvidia-settings but no other driver versions18:57
glitsj16Guest27584: sudo apt-get install nvidia-331 in that case18:58
Guest27584aha, much more simpler than previously thought.  Thank you18:58
glitsj16Guest27584: no problem, hope it works out better that 31918:59
Guest27584feelings mutual.  I want this to work so I dont have to keep switching between drivers in order to play DOTA" or anything else19:00
Guest27584thanks again19:00
Wiz_KeeDpuff, will test now! brb19:00
stanleystanley19:00
glitsj16Guest27584: just fyi, you refered to the Nvidia-Linux-...run, that's the binary driver for a manual install, the repository way is simpler these days19:01
imghostpuff, by default kernel is not loading your nvidia, you have to enable switch for that you need to take help of a 3rd party app called bumblebee19:01
puffimghost: I'm thinking of trying out the vanilla in-repo nvidia drivers first.19:02
Guest27584Yes the repos certaintly speed up the upgrading without too much fiddling around.  Its just finding the right repos19:02
Guest27584safe/stable repos19:02
glitsj16indeed19:02
Wiz_KeeDpuff, God bless you m8!19:03
* Wiz_KeeD hugs19:03
Guest27584Linux's Kernel is Modular correct?19:03
puffWiz_KeeD: The credit all goes to the many, many people who have helped me in the past.19:03
Wiz_KeeD:D19:03
imghostpuff, you should try bumblebee19:03
Nach0zlol19:04
Nach0zimghost: you're like the fifth person to say that19:04
Wiz_KeeDpuff, bumblebee if AWESOME19:04
Wiz_KeeDespecially for saucy salamader19:04
Wiz_KeeD13/1019:04
ceciliaspHi tehre. I´m witha a major crash and I could use some help!19:04
puffimghost: I'm reluctant, because the last time I tried it, several months ago, my install got all kinds of messed up.19:04
glitsj16Guest27584: allthough not officially supported here, because it's a PPA, i think the ubuntu-x team responsible for that particular PPA can be trusted, they mark it as stable themselves, never encountered anything odd with in 3+ years .. goodluck :)19:04
puffimghost: But okay, I'm installnig some updates now, when they complete I'll give bumblebee another shot.19:05
Guest27584Yes it did say stable releases when I just added the repo now.  Do I have to sudo apt-get install Nvidia-331.20-settings to get the settings?19:05
ceciliaspI can´t boot my computer and the only thing I can see is grub>19:06
imghostpuff, no comments, before seeing the outputs its useless to say19:06
glitsj16Guest27584: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings-331 and you should be good to go19:07
Guest27584thats great thank you19:07
Wiz_KeeDpuff, 13.10 has bumblebee in the standard repositories19:07
Wiz_KeeDIt should be as easy as apt-get purge bumblebee if there's an issue19:07
Wiz_KeeDDid miracles for me, also you can use vgaswitcharoo if it's supported by your system to stop your discrete video card19:07
Wiz_KeeDIf that's your intention19:07
ceciliaspanybody?19:08
Wiz_KeeDceciliasp, paste some errors, give some description19:08
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imghostceciliasp, are you trying to install fresh os?,19:09
ceciliaspok, I´m running ubunutu 12-04 and windows 8. I was having some trouble booting so i tried a fresh install with a live ubs stick19:09
queretaroWhen adding static routes via "route add", what's the file the command is modifying? I tried /proc/net/route with no success19:10
ceciliaspthe instal crashed and since then when I try to boot my computer i can only see a black screen with the grub> text19:10
ceciliaspI can´t even boot windows19:10
ceciliaspand the usb stick doesn´t seem to work anymore19:11
ceciliaspthe black windows seems to be the GRUB menu. It says GNU GRUB version 1.99-2ubuntu3.1019:12
imghostceciliasp, insert a live usb19:12
ceciliaspand it says Minimal Bash-like line editing is supported19:12
puffimghost: What outputs?19:12
imghostceciliasp, insert the live usb of ubuntu and update your grub19:13
puffimghost: Hm, I guess I could upgrade to 13.10 and then try bumblebere.19:13
ceciliasp<imhost> i´ll try to run from the usb19:13
Kurvivorhello19:13
imghostpuff, no comments19:13
imghostceciliasp, yes19:13
ermiyas.xsession-erros file keeps filling up19:14
Kurvivorwhat is the color behind background picture called?19:14
puffimghost: No comment about 13.10?19:14
Kurvivorwhen picture does not fill entire screen19:14
imghostpuff, yes i use lts versions only19:14
ceciliasp<imhost> I try to run the usb but when I get to the options screen and i press on try ubuntu nothing happens19:14
Kurvivorhow can i set the color for remaining parts?19:14
puffimghost: Ah.  Yeah, me too, I moved from 12.04 to get my video-out working properly.19:15
puffimghost: Which I regret, but.19:15
ceciliasp<imhost> just a black screen19:15
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puffOne of the things that bugs me the most about Unity is the way alt-tab works, is there a way to switch that back to the old style, where alt-tab just showed you all the windows instead of grouping them?19:15
Guest43695Well I'm back from installing the driver.  Had to reboot twice for it too work19:16
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glitsj16Guest43695: you were the other numbered guest from a few minutes ago, the nvidia-331 attempt?19:17
imghostceciliasp, u ve uefi default system?19:17
puffHow do I add applets/widgets to the menu bar in unity?19:17
Guest43695Yes glitsj1619:17
Guest43695I've just installed 331.20 and took second reboot for it to work19:18
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Guest43695I've noticed a decline in image quality when using Expo and the desktop switched is also not reporting all the desktops to switch too19:18
glitsj16Guest43695: and, any first attempts? i recall having that too yes, no idea why, i just did a new dkms build to make sure and then it kicked in (but i encounter glitches all the time in life lol, hence the nick)19:19
ceciliasp<imhost> no. I can only see the grub>19:19
glitsj16Guest43695: have you tried the nvidia-settings to see if you can improve those yet?19:20
imghostceciliasp, ok use cd to boot and then use boot-reoair to reinstall grub19:20
Guest43695yes i'm looking at them this minute the settings offer more options that the older veresion19:20
imghostboot-repair19:20
Guest43695so hopefully after a reboot these glitches will have passed19:20
dveimHello19:20
ceciliasp<imghost> in that same screen? (sorry, I´m a rookie in this)19:21
Guest43695and I shall try now lol19:21
ceciliaspI don´t have a cd reader... just a usb stick which is not working either19:21
imghostceciliasp, ok so you have bootable usb right?19:22
imghostceciliasp, insert it then under biod select usb to boot19:22
xubuntu188what is the path of the default desktop wallpaper19:22
imghostunder bios19:22
ceciliaspimghost, yes but it´s not working. I can boot with the usb but then when I select Try Ubuntu or Install Ubuntu nothing happens.... just a black screen19:23
onetinsoldierxubuntu188: not certain, but probably /usr/share/wallpapers19:23
dveimi have installed ubuntu 13.10 on new laptop with nvidia19:23
dveimwhen i log in, everything is ok19:23
imghostceciliasp, redownload it then19:24
ceciliaspimghost, ok I´m doing it right now. 12.04 64bits19:24
imghostceciliasp, download only from ubuntu.com19:24
dveimbut after i presses password, graphics disappears and and only alone mouse is on the display19:24
ceciliaspimghost, Is there any other way to boot at least to windows?19:24
imghostceciliasp, after download use unetbootin to make a live usb19:25
xubuntu188there is no wallpapers on usr/share onetinsoldier19:25
dveimalso, i think it is linked, the screen size is unnormally small19:25
imghostceciliasp, yes you can insert the windows installer19:25
dveimwhat can you advise?19:25
ceciliaspimghost, i´ll look for unetbooting19:25
imghostceciliasp, then repair the computer19:25
onetinsoldierxubuntu188: i don't know then19:26
kevin_Still having issues with Compiz on this I think is the problem19:26
ceciliaspimghost, unfortunatelly i don´t have windows installer. it´s a brand new laptop with no cd or usb file. i know there is a recovery partition though19:26
imghostceciliasp, two way either download ubuntu again or if you have windows installer, point is we need to repair the computer thats all19:26
dveimhey, does someone have any ideas what should i do?19:27
kevin_There is without a doubt Image Qualit loss when zooming out into Expo - or Desktop Wall19:27
jukidevim, you'll have to fill me in a little bit19:27
onetinsoldierxubuntu188: do you have the following package installed? --> ubuntu-wallpapers19:27
kevin_a blurriness that isnt there when using Nouveau19:27
imghostceciliasp, why no backups?19:27
dveimjuki: yes19:27
xubuntu188onetinsoldier: no19:28
dveimjuki: i ll answer any questions19:28
jukiI see you only have a blank desktop with only a cursor?19:28
ceciliaspimghost, sorry what do u mean with no backups? all my sensitive information is in a different partition19:28
dveimjuki: yes19:28
jukiwhen did it work last?19:28
onetinsoldierxubuntu188: i'm not sure where the default background wallpaper is at, probably not from that package either though. i'm trying to find it19:28
imghostceciliasp, i mean why no recovery disks?19:29
dveimjuki: on logging dialog19:29
dveimjuki: when it asked to enter password19:29
onetinsoldierxubuntu188: do you have images in /usr/share/backgrounds ...?19:29
jukiis this a new install? has it ever worked on this machine?19:29
kevin_and Nautilus goes blank when un-minimising19:29
dveimjuki: actually it was19:30
senninirc en español?19:30
xubuntu188yes onetinsoldier got them! tkanks so much19:30
DJones!es | sennin19:30
ubottusennin: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.19:30
imghostceciliasp, always keep an extra bootable pendrive for emerdencies19:30
onetinsoldierxubuntu188: you're welcome. cheers19:30
dveimjuki: i tried to fix a bug with screen resolution, downloaded nvidia drivers, then rebooted19:30
imghostemergencies19:31
dveimjuki: after the problem appeared19:31
senninthank19:31
glitsj16kevin_: confused, the nvidia-331, is that you? otherwise please ignore, those guest.... nicks i will never get used to19:31
jhutchinsceciliasp: It's always a good idea to have backups on a seperate device.  Errors in partitioning could wipe out your data if it's on the same device.19:31
ceciliasp_imghost, gess so..19:31
dveimjuki: i mean, after rebooting the problem appeared)19:31
kevin_Yes its me 331 driver guy19:31
jukiok, do you know specifically what nvidia drivers you downloaded?  177 maybe? do you know how to uninstall them?19:31
imghostjhutchins, exactly backups on physical device always helps us19:32
dveimjuki: afaik i pressed apt-get install nvidia-drivers19:32
jukidveim: if you press ctrl+alt+f2 does it ask you to login?19:32
senninnadie respone en el irc español19:32
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kevin_Going to check image quality in a movie19:32
dveimjuki: sec, i ll check19:32
jukilooks almost HD from here kevin_!19:32
jhutchinsIf the device is removable, all the better.  That way you CAN'T wipe the data.19:32
kevin_lol19:32
glitsj16kevin_: okay :) have you tried ccsm to see what you can do? i'll be off for 5 minutes19:33
kevin_ok thanx glitsj1619:33
ceciliasp_<jhutchins> I also keep all my info on an external hard drive19:33
glitsj16kevin_: brb, very welcome19:33
dveimjuki: when i presses ctrl+alt+f2 while system loading, nothing happened19:34
dveimjuki: now there is a login dialog19:35
ceciliasp_jhutchins, what I don´t have is an image of my computer if that´s yourpoint19:35
imghostdveim, whats the issue?, like to share it?19:35
senninfuck irc19:36
xubuntu188i wanna set my lockscreen to have se same background image as my desktop how can i do that19:36
imghost!ops | sennin19:36
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jukidveim: ctrlaltf2 from login dialog19:36
Beldarlong gone19:36
dveimimghost: after entering password in login dialog, all disappeares except mouse. Probably it is linked with nvidia drivers, because this problem started after i downloaded them and rebooted19:37
Myrttiimghost: a bit late for that19:37
jhutchinsceciliasp_: Something to consider is that typically a recovery partition will destroy any other OS installed on that disk and return it to factory status.19:37
dveimjuki: nothing happens19:37
imghostMyrtti, ma bad :(, internet is slow now :(19:38
jukihow about f1 dveim?19:38
ceciliasp_ok, wouldn´t mind that since I also keep a backup of my partitions on an external storage...All i want is my computer to boot again :(19:38
jhutchinsdveim: Can you use Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get back to a console?19:38
jhutchinsceciliasp_: ok, sorry for the distraction.19:38
jhutchins!fixgrub19:38
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub219:38
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dveimjuki: after random F i got access to concole19:38
rennat41Hey, my system just broke trying to update to ubuntu 13.10. Any Idea how I can recover all of my files?19:39
dveimjuki: so, now i am in19:39
imghostdveim, what version are you on?19:39
jukiapt-get remove whatever killed it19:39
dveimimghost: 13.1019:39
Beldarrennat41, boot a live cd a access it.19:39
Beldarand*19:39
glitsj16kevin_: okay, back .. perhaps we can better go over to PM if you don't mind .. fiddling with settings might not be on-topic .. what do you think? no pressure, just a question19:39
jhutchinsrennat41: "broke" allows for a fairly broad range of problems.  Could you be more specific?19:39
rennat41I need my root files. are they on there somewhere?19:39
imghostdveim, whats the output of cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager19:39
dveimjuki: it was nvidia-current package, will remove it in a sec19:40
dveimimghost: sec19:40
Beldarrennat41, Yes, ans what will you do with them?19:40
jukidveim:19:40
rennat41I have no idea19:40
jukitry imghost first19:40
jhutchinsrennat41: On where?19:40
rennat41I had a local server running apache that I need19:40
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dveimjuki: y, thought same19:40
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Beldarrennat41, Not much you can probably.19:40
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rennat41That's highly unfortunate19:41
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onetinsoldierrennat41: perhaps you could use a live cd to boot and then copy files to a usb stick or external hd?19:41
dveimimghost: /usr/sbin/lightdb19:41
Beldarrennat41, ah a server, you might ask in #ubuntu-server19:41
DarkAceLaptopis there some command I can run that will return the DE I'm currently running?19:41
rennat41okay thanks19:41
ceciliasp_imghost ok just finished configuring the live usb wish me luck19:41
Beldarrennat41, make sure you use nicks.19:41
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onetinsoldierDarkAceLaptop: DE? i know i should know what that means, but i forget19:42
dveimso, what's now?19:42
DarkAceLaptopdesktop environment19:42
ceciliasp_imghost, nothing....after selecting "Try ubuntu" the computer does nothing....19:42
jukiwhat was the output of default display?19:42
intraderAnyone, how to 'get around' unity annoyance. VIM opens a window far from the left corner where unity puts its menu. Is there a workaround?19:43
glitsj16DarkAceLaptop: echo $DESKTOP_SESSION19:43
DarkAceLaptopvery nice, thanks19:43
dveimjuki: /usr/sbin/lightdb19:43
glitsj16DarkAceLaptop: if you get 'ubuntu' that's Unity19:43
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imghostdveim, my net is very slow now , what is the output of cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf19:44
dveimjuki: also some problems with network, even can't ping google19:44
jukilightdm dveim?19:44
jukihard wired network dveim?19:44
jhutchinsrennat41: This isn't a server vs. desktop problem.19:44
ActionParsnipdveim: can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?19:44
imghostceciliasp_, good luck and net is slow19:44
dveimjuki: wifi, worked in login dialog19:44
kevin_wb glitsj1619:44
dveimActionParsnip: Network is unreacheble19:44
kevin_Well DOTA2 works well some sound conflicts but framerate isnt bad19:45
kevin_video quality is fine19:45
ActionParsnipdveim: what network chip are you using?19:45
pvl1hey all, is there an ubuntu dev channel?19:45
glitsj16intrader: not familiar with VIM, but if it hasn't got settings for window placement you can use ccsm to put your window where you want i believe19:45
ceciliasp_imghost, I´m in the bios setup now. Can you point me boot options19:45
dveimimghost: there is no such file19:45
jukinetwork manger hasn't picked up the stack yet dveim, hardwired would work from here19:45
kevin_so its really just the eye candy in Ubuntu - in particular CCSM19:45
glitsj16kevin_: hi again, abything usefull showed up yet to solve glitches?19:46
dveimActionParsnip: how can i check that?19:46
HassanJDoes anyone happen to know of that PHP library which prevents integer fields from a MySQL table from returning as string.19:46
ActionParsnipdveim: sudo lshw -C network19:46
HassanJI cannot happen to remember it.19:46
imghostceciliasp_, under bios select usb to boot19:46
ActionParsnipHassanJ: i'd ask in #mysql19:46
kevin_at the moment having a look at various graphics applications to compare quality and performance19:47
HassanJOkay, thanks.19:47
ceciliasp_imghost, i already tried that. when prompet with "Try Ubuntu" or "Install" nothing happens...just a black screen19:47
ActionParsnipceciliasp_: what gpu do you use?19:47
kermythmm any idea why the last update broke my firefox? is anyone else experiencing major stability issues with FF recently?19:47
imghostdveim, paste the output of  cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf19:48
glitsj16kevin_: mostly eye-candy yes, but some settings do have nice positive impact, Sync to VBlank und unredirect fullscreen windows in particular19:48
ceciliasp_imghost sorry what is gpu?19:48
jhutchinsceciliasp_: That's often a sign that the boot image is not good.19:48
dveimActionParsnip: and in what output you interested? There are 2 interfaces, ethernet and wireless19:48
ActionParsnipKermyt: what about if you rename your Firefox config folder then rerun it?19:48
dveimimghost: no such file19:48
kevin_where do I sync to vblank?19:48
imghostceciliasp_, graphics processing unit19:48
ActionParsnipdveim: well, how do you connect to the web. We obviosly want that one.19:48
kermytActionParsnip, I already tried a full FF reset and running with no plugins but it still freezez while loading about half of the internets19:48
intraderglitsj16, I will look up ccsm - never heard of it19:49
imghostdveim, paste the output on pastebin or go to paste.ubuntu.com19:49
ActionParsnipceciliasp_: what the display unit (monito) connects to. The video card....19:49
kermytmost specifically it freezes loading FB19:49
ActionParsnipkermyt: tried a fresh ubuntu user?19:49
glitsj16kevin_: you can do that both in nvidia-settings (OpenGL pane i think and in ccsm in opengl or composite, not sure19:49
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kermytActionParsnip, would a FF reset be the same thing?19:49
kevin_ahh ok thanks19:49
ceciliasp_imghost I finally got to make the usb work!19:50
dveimimghost: i'm talking here from another laptop, no connection on broken one19:50
ActionParsnipKermyt: it will give vanilla DE settings etc too.19:50
glitsj16intrader: it's the compizconfig-settings-manager package, you might have to install that19:50
kermythmm I will try it19:50
imghostceciliasp_, great19:50
roothi19:50
Guest42579hi19:50
ActionParsnipintrader: ccsm is known to cause issues with compiz19:50
imghostdveim, wihout seeing it how can we help us?19:50
ceciliasp_so, boot repair is not installed in the usb version. and it is not in the repositories...19:51
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Guest95857salam19:51
Guest95857im maroc19:51
dveimActionParsnip: via wireless worked... What param would you like to know?19:51
ActionParsnip!rootirc | Guest9585719:51
ubottuGuest95857: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet.19:51
Guest95857speek arabe19:51
dveimimghost: i can repaste manually the output19:51
kevin_Yes Nvidia Settings are not holding after saving19:51
ActionParsnipDveim: then which interface do you want to use which is giving you problems?19:51
kermytActionParsnip, ok first test I renamed my .mozilla folder and it still is broken I will try another user. but that seems rediculously extreme.19:52
ActionParsnipKermyt: why extreme?19:52
dveimActionParsnip: wireless, it worked in login dialog19:52
ActionParsnipKermyt: users cost no money and it takes seconds to test.19:53
Beldarceciliasp_, what is the issue you need bootrepair for?19:53
kermytbecause I can't copy that setup into my current user and I don't want to have to use my browser in a different login than everything else.19:53
geekstayHi everyone. I've some problem for annoting a pdf with adobe acrobat in Linux. It's written that commenting is not allowed (Linux), and on Windows, I can add comments (on the same pdf file). Could you tell we where the problem is please ?19:53
ActionParsnipDveim: ok, what wifi chip are you using?19:53
willwork4fooAnyone else here use Oracle Beehive IM?19:53
intraderglitsj16, ccsm = CompositeManagerCopizFussion  - I don't have it installed; is it safe to install?19:53
geekstay(I know it exists other software, but I'm using both Linux and Windows, so adobe it's perfect for that.19:53
ceciliasp_Beldar, because my computer wont boot neither ubuntu nor windows19:53
ActionParsnipGeekstay: could try pdfedit19:53
jukiso you can't uninstall the nvidia drivers because you have no connection dveim?19:54
kermytoh... on a side note... whenefer FF hangs it leaves GST-scanner running endlessly inthe background19:54
glitsj16ActionParsnip: ccsm works without issues for me, granted that you're carefull with the Unity settings in there, and exporting your settings before fiddling around .. so intrader, that way be a wise idea before making changes in ccsm: go to the preferences and export your present settings before fiddling .. for placement of windows you should be safe according to me19:54
ActionParsnipKermyt: are there bugs reported?19:54
geekstayActionParnsip : I try it.19:54
dveimjuki: uninstalled them a sec ago19:54
kermytI have no idea ActionParsnip19:54
dveimjuki: hope that helped19:54
Beldarceciliasp_, save the boot info summary that is generated, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair19:54
ActionParsnipglitsj16: there is a warning when you first run it, it's not there for laughs19:55
glitsj16intrader: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager is the .. install command yes19:55
kermytthis all just started after the last update so I assu7med it was an ubuntu issue19:55
jukiand you have rebooted and things are still broken dveim?19:55
ActionParsnipkermyt: i suggest you report the issue.19:55
ceciliasp_Beldar, ok. I´m right on thatr page right now19:55
dveimjuki: yes ;(19:55
jukiand now can't install news ones becuase you have no connection dveim?19:55
dveimjuki: y19:55
kermytI suppose it could be KX studio but I don't know how much about FF KX alters.19:55
glitsj16ActionParsnip: i agree, intrader just wants to change a window placement for vim, shouldn't mess with unity i believe, caution is ofc allways wise19:55
imghostdveim, whats the output of apt-cache show lightdm?19:56
glitsj16intrader: there are other options for your vim window placement issue, whatever you feel comfortable with19:57
ceciliasp_imghost Bledar, strange...boot repair keeps telling me it need to unmount partitions..but it never ends19:57
intraderglitsj16, ActionParsnip: my laptop is fairly fast but runs hot when using video - I am afraid of compiz...19:57
Beldarceciliasp_ what partitions are mounted?19:57
jukimaybe try booting with the nomodeset option dveim?19:57
ActionParsnipIntrader: i hate compiz19:58
kermytyep gst-plugin-scanner gets left running when FF zombies.19:58
glitsj16intrader: you can use devilspie and gdevilspie (a GUI for that) to set your window positioning instead of via ccsm19:58
kermytand it's sucking up about half of my CPU19:58
ActionParsnipIntrader: if you use optimus then make sure you have bumblebee installed19:58
glitsj16intrader: i just mentioned ccsm because that's already installed and devilspie might be overkill for 1 rule, but it works19:59
ActionParsnipKermyt: run: ubuntu-bug firefox ,and report the bug19:59
Beldar!tab | ceciliasp_19:59
ubottuceciliasp_: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.19:59
imghostceciliasp_, paste the output of "df"19:59
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kermytwill do thank you ActionParsnip19:59
dveimjuki: i ll try to reinstall ubuntu via dvd19:59
dveimjuki: but its lame...20:00
ceciliasp_imghost how can i get that output20:00
jukiyou don't need a whole reinstall dveim, you just need to get the correct display drivers in there  I think20:00
geekstayActionParnsip : It's compatible with Adobe acrobat ?20:00
dveimjuki: how can i get them?20:00
intraderglitsj16, ActionParsnip: I hate 'feature' of Unity - have probles also with Eclipse menus - thanks guys maybe I fiddle with config of VIM20:00
kermythmm I don't seem to have ubuntu-bug installed20:00
imghostceciliasp_, type df in terminal20:00
imghost!pastebin | ceciliasp20:01
ubottuceciliasp: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.20:01
dveimimghost: output is too big for paste, are you interested in a single parameter?20:01
glitsj16intrader: unity is but one of the DE options, you might want to check others in the regular repos20:01
kermytwait the problem just went away for some reason20:01
jukii think you hit "b" or "e" when the grub menu appears and add the "nomodeset" option to the boot string.  it should start it in a safe mode that will let you get to your wifi and grab the correct drivers20:01
imghost!pastebin | dveim20:01
ubottudveim: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.20:01
kermytnow I can't seem to reproduce it20:01
dveimoh, wifi appeared20:02
ceciliasp_imghost irc running in difft computer20:02
dveimimghost: sec, i ll do that20:02
ceciliasp_imghost, what part of df output do we need20:02
ActionParsnipIntrader: i prefer openbox. It doesnt crash nearly as much20:03
imghostceciliasp_, The column headed "Mounted On" will have a "/"20:03
ActionParsnipglitsj16: unity isnt a DE. It is a shell. You can run Unity on top of any DE you want20:03
intraderglitsj16, ActionParsnip: in general I like the launcher; although it does not work properly to set up a new application; for example to install freemind on the launcher I could not do it and wound up with an icon on the desktop.20:03
geekstayActionParsnip : How could it solve problem I can't comment with adobe ?20:03
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imghostceciliasp_, and you need to unmount that partitions after that use boot repair20:04
ActionParsnipGeekstay: try pdfedit is all i can suggest. Not something i use20:04
ceciliasp_imghost yes, I can see the /20:04
glitsj16intrader: running hot while using video .. perhaps you need to look at using a player with VDPAU support (assuming you have nvidia) and choosing that as video output20:04
kermytlol thank you ActionParsnip for your help. this bug has vanished just as mesteriously as it started.20:04
ceciliasp_imghost how can I unmount the partitions?20:04
geekstayActionParsnip : Ohw OK, thanks for the idea :).20:05
ActionParsnipkermyt: sweet :-)20:05
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intraderActionParsnip, does openbox run on ubuntu 12.04?20:05
ActionParsnipIntrader: yes, why would it not?20:06
imghostceciliasp_, umount /dev/sdx20:06
ActionParsnipIntrader: openbox is the default WM of Lubuntu, which has a 12.04 release (but is not LTS until 14.04)20:06
intraderglitsj16, I have had the running hot problem for a long time without solution; as soon as the view window is more than 1/4 of screen - HEAT20:07
imghostceciliasp_, its 1.36am here and my net is very slow sorry for late replys m sleepy now20:07
glitsj16intrader: with different players and different video output settings?20:07
intraderActionParsnip, hopefully stable - I have had problems since 10.04 with stability and heat20:08
ceciliasp_imghost I can see sda4 sda5 sda6 sda2 sda1 sda2 again and sda9 all umounted20:09
dveimjuki: the last command before the problem was /etc/init.d/lightdm restart20:09
intraderglitsj16, well, if I open a page with youtube, how do I select viewer?20:09
dveimjuki: mb i can simple start it?20:09
pvl1is there a way to make a tty appear on my second monitor20:10
jukiyes dveim "sudo service lightdm restart"20:10
jukior /etc/init.d/lightdm restart but it's deprecating20:10
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intraderglitsj16, any player; as long as more than 1/4 of screen is the viewing field - full screen is a killer20:11
glitsj16intrader: there are some very nice greasemonkey scripts around to NOT use flash plugin on youtube (and other sites), so you tax your cpu less and use your gpu20:11
imghostceciliasp_, now install boot repair20:11
ceciliasp_imghost originally ubuntu whas installed on sda7 but now I see that is a 1 mb part (bios_grub)20:11
dveimjuki: hmm, after service lightdm restart it throw me to login dialog20:11
MerisI'm having trouble starting Ubuntu 13.10 64bit, after install on a Sony Vaio Pro 13(UEFI, Win8.1. DualBoot, SecureBoot off). After installation, Windows started again as if GRUB2 wasn't installed. To correct this I used Yannubuntu's boot-repair, first recommended settings, rename Windows, partitions, which yielded this log:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6570083/ Afterwards I chose the recommend settings with renaming the Windows partitions.20:11
Meris That yielded this log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6570132. At that point Windows 8.1 didn't boot anymore, but I got no grub and no ubuntu  After that I restored the original efi partitions that were backed in attempt 1, which yielded: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6574110. I tried libata.force=noncq as suggested by http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2192179&highlight=sony+vaio+pro but even that won't help showing grub, let alone booting20:11
Merisubuntu proper.20:11
FloodBot1Meris: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:11
inspironhi20:11
jukiwhat happens if you try and login dveim?20:11
dveimjuki: and then, after logining, problem didn't disapperead20:11
inspironwhere is the file to add kernel boot parameters? This is the same file that is temporarily edited when you press 'e' at startup20:12
rennat41Hi, my computer broke while updating ubuntu so now I need to recover files from my Wubi install.20:12
glitsj16intrader: what player do you use as your number one stop? viewtube is the name btw of one of the greasemonkey scripts for youtube, works in firefox, chrome/chromium etc20:12
rootpti've got this machine with windows and one machine with ubuntu installed in virtualbox, how can a sen a message through the cmd (network) to the machine with ubuntu in the same network ?20:12
inspironit use to be the menu.lst file20:12
rootptsend*20:12
inspironand also used to be the grub.conf20:12
dveimjuki: nothing changed20:12
jukido you have any other options for desktop sessions? try one of them maybe?20:13
ceciliasp_imghost it´s like they keep mounting!20:13
imghostgood night all, dveim you did not paste the outputs sad :(20:13
dveimimghost: googling how to do it via command line20:13
intraderglitsj16, psensors used to show me gpu%, but it showed even greater utilization. Maybe there is a temperature sensor for the gpu?20:13
jukidveim: apt-get install pastebinit20:14
intraderglitsj16, I open the viewere automatically from firefox or chrome (mostly firefox)20:14
dveimjuki: done20:15
dveimjuki: and what after? I copied output into file20:15
intraderglitsj16, psensor show 100C for either cpu - pretty hot20:16
glitsj16intrader: for gpu temp you can keep an eye on that with nvidia-settings, i usually run a custom session where i don't use unity but cairo-dock, has great sensors support for pretty much all hardware devices20:16
dveimhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6574354/20:16
glitsj16intrader: yes indeed20:16
dveimimghost: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6574354/20:17
glitsj16intrader: always very difficult to diagnose where the actual problem resides as well ..20:17
ceciliasp_imghost http://paste.ubuntu.com/657435520:17
inspironfound it20:17
intraderglitsj16, I could go back to 9.04...:)20:18
kevin_VDPAU is only available in VLC 2.1?20:18
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willwork4fooHi all - I'm trying to use a Jabber XMPP account that I have set up and working fine in Pidgin, but I can't make it work properly in Telepathy. I'm connecting to an Oracle beehive IM server20:19
intraderglitsj16, and just to nail unity more, on windows XP I don't experience the overheating - it must be the driver for the nvidia20:19
ceciliasp_anyone can give me a hand with this boot info http://paste.ubuntu.com/657435520:19
glitsj16intrader: you can look at using gecko-mediaplayer (firefox and chrome multimedia plugin) and gnome-mplayer for instance if you want to try youtube from a native player instead of flash20:19
glitsj16intrader: could very well be yes20:19
glitsj16kevin_: ^^ gecko-media-player and mplayer in general has great VDPAU support20:20
kevin_Thought VLC was the number 1 choice i'll try gecko20:20
jukidveim: cat /path/to/text/file | pastebinit20:20
dveimjuki: y, done that, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6574354/20:21
intraderglitsj16, youtube settings now route to HTML5 viewer. But the heating problem goes back before I set the option of not using flash20:21
glitsj16kevin_: for nvidia my experiences are very different, mplayer runs at 3-4 % cpu if you set video output to vdpau20:22
kevin_ok20:22
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jukidveim: install e17 and see if it works20:22
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glitsj16intrader: if you have that since 9.04 it's probably not youtube, or flash, but it might improve things, testing is the only way to find out i guess20:23
glitsj16intrader: minitube in in the repos as well as a standalone option for youtube, or smtube (which is not in the repos) .. both avoid flash20:24
glitsj16!find minitube20:24
ubottuFound: minitube20:24
glitsj16:)20:25
glitsj16!info minitube20:25
ubottuminitube (source: minitube): Native YouTube client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0-1 (saucy), package size 696 kB, installed size 1860 kB20:25
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jukidveim: lspci  -mm | grep VGA20:26
intraderglitsj16, I have been searching for solution since unity (a long time) - like I said youtube avoids flash by setting to HTML520:26
dveimjuki: ok20:26
glitsj16intrader: oh missed that20:26
intraderglitsj16, np20:26
glitsj16intrader: do other linux distros also show the overheating issue?20:27
intraderglitsj16, not that I remember - I was running a fedora with no overheating20:28
cGullhi, i have some trouble booting ubuntu, is it ok to ask for help here?20:28
daftykins!ask | cGull20:28
ubottucGull: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience20:28
dveimjuki: http://paste.ubuntu.com/657441720:29
intraderglitsj16, glib solution - run windows XP in window on ubuntu -- he he20:29
jukiintel chips don't need nvidia drivers?20:29
cGullI'm building a litecoin mining rig, i'm using 12.04 on a usb stick, i got it to work with 1 gpu (7990) but when i added another one today, my system won't boot, i see the loading screen then it goes blank, is there anyway i can "safe-mode" or "command-line" start it?20:30
glitsj16intrader: http://www.upubuntu.com/2011/10/how-to-monitor-hardware-temperatures-on.html might be usefull to at least keep a close eye on GPU temp .. heh, nice one20:30
glitsj16intrader: perhaps you need to file a bug if you haven't already, or look into existing ones20:31
daftykinscGull: hold left shift on startup, you should see a GRUB menu that'll offer some choices20:31
moje.20:31
dveimjuki: dont know20:32
dveimjuki: btw, installed e1720:32
cGulldaftykins: wonderful thanks! this is the first time i'm trying anything like this so the learning curve is steep, i'll go try it out20:33
glitsj16intrader: need to get some food, nice talking to you and all the best with the issue(s)20:33
intraderglitsj16, for a long time.... I have been after this problem for ever... It got bad with Unity big time20:33
jukidveim: from the login screen there should be a new desktop option other than lighdm20:33
jukidveim: use service restart lightdm to drop back to the login screen20:33
glitsj16intrader: well, if fedora doesn't show it, and it was my machine, i'd switch20:34
intraderglitsj16, i will install the sensor - how do I avoid psensor starting?20:34
glitsj16intrader: i don't know if they would interfere, just monitors .. but hang on, let me check20:35
dveimjuki: suddenly it said "restart: unrecognized service"20:36
jukican you get to the login screen?20:37
JVBi have someting changed wit the terminal and now : i can not created maps,files ... how i can resolved this problem ?20:37
glitsj16intrader: looks like psensor uses a stanza in your 'startup applications' .. you can uncheck it there temporarily20:37
intraderglitsj16, you know - basically I like the ubuntu worldwide theme - not corporatish like red hat.. oh well20:38
matzzzhey can anyone help? I have nvidia SLI. when i use only one GPU the machine works fine. If i plug in the second gpu it reboots after the Ubuntu splash screen20:38
tsnyphhey guys. have a bit of a problem with openshot. When i record my desktop with kazam, it looks ok. Once i run it through openshot, the finished product looks all distorted and lines through the text. here is a picture of what i'm talking about http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=677b7b&s=5#.UqzBcqH0HUE20:38
glitsj16intrader: i don't like corporatism neither, no need to hide that lol20:38
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dveimjuki: seems like no... I ll try reboot again20:39
glitsj16intrader: fedora is not the only distro, manjaro (based on arch) is also very nice .. stumach is really calling for attention heh, have a nice (hot) weekend20:40
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Calinoumatzzz, you probably don't want to use SLI anyway... it causes bigger frametimes and input lag20:40
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dveimjuki: after reboot nothing changed20:41
matzzzCalinou: You say it doesn't work on Ubuntu?20:41
intraderglitsj16, you too - I will look into what ActionParsnip indicated: openbox for the menus problem in VIM and Eclipse - have a good weekend. I am hungry!!!20:41
Calinouit does work using the nvidia driver, but it requires some setup I think20:41
CalinouSLI also has downsides as I said20:41
Calinouso if it doesn't work, don't be so sad20:42
jukidveim, you need to select enlightenment from the login screen20:42
Calinou<glitsj16> intrader: fedora is not the only distro, manjaro (based on arch) is also very nice .. stumach is really calling for attention heh, have a nice (hot) weekend20:42
Calinouglitsj16, spare us that crap20:42
dveimjuki: no such option20:42
matzzzCalinou: Would you know how to get it working? Or would you know where I should ask?20:43
dveimjuki: but e17 is installed20:43
jukithere should be a dropdown menu of some sort on your login screen dveim20:43
Calinoumaybe someone here knows, but I don't20:43
Alpha_OmegaHello! Is there a IRC program for ubuntu 6.06?20:45
tsnyphxchat20:45
SchrodingersScatAlpha_Omega: there are many, xchat, irssi, weetchat, etc. etc.20:45
SchrodingersScatAlpha_Omega: *weechat20:45
Alpha_Omegawhat's the command line to download and install? I'm still a noob.20:46
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Calinou6.06?!20:46
tsnyphAlpha_Omega,  should be in the software center20:46
Calinousudo apt-get install <package name>20:46
dveimjuki: can't see it20:46
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CalinouAlpha_Omega, why are you using 6.0620:47
matzzzAlpha_Omega: try "sudo apt-get install xchat" but not sure about ubuntu 620:47
Alpha_Omegayeah. It's a pentium 2 so it runs the terminal edition20:47
jhutchinsmatzzz: Yes, that hasn't changed.20:47
matzzzAlpha_Omega: err terminal client irc? ok that's different . you should have said.20:47
Alpha_Omegaah, my mistake. I wasn't sure 6.06 had a gui20:47
jhutchinsAlpha_Omega: You'll probably want irssi then, it's a terminal-based client.20:47
Calinouany ubuntu version had a GUI20:47
CalinouAlpha_Omega, you could run ubuntu server if you want a supported OS20:48
intraderAlpha_Omega, I am running 12.04 on a Dell Inspiron 8200 with Pentium 220:48
Calinouor Lubuntu20:48
SchrodingersScatAlpha_Omega: you can do a 'apt-cache search irc.client' and you should get a quick list.20:48
jhutchinsGood grief folks, Debian doesn't predate the GUI.20:48
jukipost /etc/X11/default-display-manager again dveim20:49
jhutchinsOne of Ubuntu's goals has been to transition to a completely GUI managed system.20:49
SchrodingersScatjhutchins: sounds terrible20:49
Alpha_Omegabeautiful. This is the MOST helpful irc channel I've ever been on20:49
jhutchinsSchrodingersScat: Well, yes, but it is.20:49
dveimjuki: found it, i'm stupid ...20:50
dveimjuki: enlightment worked20:50
matzzzjhutchins: for the end user, only i assume? i dont see the need for GUI on most servers20:50
dveimjuki: choosing language now20:50
jhutchinsSchrodingersScat: We're already seeing "power users" and "administrators" who don't know how to fix or configure things if the GUI isn't working.20:50
matzzzjhutchins: well they just re-image their VMs and problem solved :-)20:51
jhutchinsmatzzz: Ubuntu reall isn't focused on servers, but even there.  A lot of neophytes are relying on GUI tools to administer servers.20:51
matzzzjhutchins: i "blame" VMs and restore CDs for the lower quality of the average tech these days20:51
Alpha_OmegaSchrodingersScat: that command turned a blank result.20:52
tsnyphhey guys. have a bit of a problem with openshot. When i record my desktop with kazam, it looks ok. Once i run it through openshot, the finished product looks all distorted and lines through the text. here is a picture of what i'm talking about http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=677b7b&s=5#.UqzBcqH0HUE20:52
matzzzjhutchins: if they want to pay extra on their VM for the GUI, that's fine with me , i have shares in cloud providers :-)20:52
jhutchinsAlpha_Omega: Give irssi a try - it's pretty much the standard for console irc.20:52
Alpha_Omegasudo apt-get install irssi ?20:53
SchrodingersScatAlpha_Omega: yep, that should install irssi20:53
Alpha_Omegathanks, I'll try it out20:53
unknwn_anyone got a good tip for ati drivers?20:53
unknwn_even qt creator wont work because something shitty is wronge with the drivers20:54
tsnyphlinux + ati = bad. intel + nvidia = nothing better than this20:54
onetinsoldierunknwn_: people will need a more descriptive explanation of what the problem is20:54
Alpha_Omegareturn couldn't find packagae irssi20:54
matzzztsnyph: except ati is 3x faster for bitcoin20:54
ikoniaoptimus cards are still problematic20:54
ikoniaso nvidia/intel combinations are not something I'd push at this time20:55
dveimjuki: thanks a lot for help! Is it another DE?20:55
unknwn_well the drivers that i get from ubuntu are all somehow screwed20:55
unknwn_gl isn't working at all20:55
onetinsoldierunknwn_: "doesn't work", and "scewed" iare pretty vague20:55
onetinsoldierscrewed*20:55
unknwn_can't find the ql drivers20:55
unknwn_gl20:56
SchrodingersScatAlpha_Omega: apt-cache search irssi ?  it's in my main, so shouldn't need to add repos..20:56
unknwn_for some reason20:56
matzzzSo does anyone know how to fix my SLI problem? When 2nd card is inserted, machine reboots after ubuntu splash screen. With only one card, it's all fine.20:56
jukiit's not a desktop, it's a window manager... maybe now you can get to restricted drivers manager and clear up the nvidia thing20:56
jhutchinsAlpha_Omega: You do have a valid network connection, right?20:56
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onetinsoldierunknwn_: after installing the drivers, you need to run the following command, and then reboot --> sudo aticonfig --initial20:56
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jukidveim: ^^20:57
Alpha_Omegayeah, my google ping worked20:57
unknwn_ok gonna try that thanks onetinsoldier20:57
madpropshi20:57
onetinsoldierunknwn_: you're welcome.. good luck20:57
madpropscan someone tell me the name of the network manager that ships with ubuntu? is networkmanager still mantained?20:57
Jdar3I'm having problems installing on my windows 8 laptop, the disc or usb installer loads the GRUB menu, but no selections work (install,verify,etc) it just blanks the screen20:57
ikoniamadprops: network manager is very much maintained20:57
madpropsikonia: is it the same as network-manager?20:58
ikoniamadprops: yes20:58
jhutchinsmadprops: Yes.20:58
matzzzhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/dapper/i386/irssi20:59
koellsomeone here using pcmanfm as file manager?20:59
intraderglitsj16, no configuration for indicator-sensors - how do I uninstall?20:59
jukihave used pcmanfm before koell21:00
matzzzkoell: i have used it, but nor currently21:00
puff@rn21:00
MerisI'm having trouble booting after installing Ubuntu and trying to correct it with boot-repair http://paste.ubuntu.com/6574110/  (UEFI, Dual boot with Win8.1.) Windows starts, but deosn't even show.21:00
matzzzkoell: it's the standard file manager in lubuntu, whch i used for a year21:00
jhutchinsAlpha_Omega: does sudo apt-get update work?21:00
koellim using in currently in lubuntu but cant delete files via smb on my ubuntu server. not tried thunar and everything works fine. but i would like to stay on pcmanfm :(21:00
BeldarMeris, Did you resize windows from the ubuntu install?21:01
MerisBeldar, no I resized using the native disk manager from within Windows21:01
MerisBeldar, by the way, it's Ubuntu 13.10 64 bits21:02
DrGrovikonia: I wonder since you mention Optimus cards. My missus got 12.04 running on her Samsung laptop that has Optimus. Should I be worried when installing 13.10 64-bit for her? She is not playing though.21:02
matzzzkoell: OK i can confirm pcman does have that functionality, so your problem is one of fixig a configuration and not changing an FM21:02
ikoniaDrGrov: depends what you mean by worried and how you are using the card21:02
matzzzkoell: How are you connecting to the windows share?21:02
koellmatzzz: so u can delete files via smb in pcmanfm?21:02
ikoniakoell: that has nothing to do with the file manager21:03
ikoniakoell: samba is totally seperate, a samba file system is just a disk mounted to a file manager21:03
matzzzkoell: it should not depend on the file manager, how are you mounting or connecting?21:03
koellmatzzz: i installed ubuntu server 32 bit 12.04 on my old netbook. now accessing via pcmanfm try to delete a file there but no context menu. with thunar it works21:03
Alpha_Omegajhutchins: 404 not found: IP[91.189.91.14.80]21:03
koellmatzzz i connect via samba/smb in address bar21:03
matzzzkoell: how are you connecting? 3rd time :-)21:03
Jdar3(repeating self, went off screen)I'm having problems installing on my windows 8 laptop, the disc or usb installer loads the GRUB menu, but no selections work (install,verify,etc) it just blanks the screen21:04
BeldarMeris, is MokManager.efi a 3rd party?21:04
koellikonia: it hast to do with it, in thunar it works.21:04
DrGrovikonia: She is mainly doing surfing on the web, LibreOffice stuff and not much more. Worried if the card is "too old" to work properly in 13.10.21:04
matzzzkoell: ok sorry for yelling, i missed your response21:04
ikoniakoell: no, it doesn't21:04
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MerisBeldar, yes it is, it is an internal name of a Sony restore partition.21:04
nOobIs unix a kernel or an operating system itself?21:04
koellhmm i may just stick with thunar. :)21:05
ikoniaDrGrov: optimus cards are new, too old is certainly not a problem21:05
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ikonian0n0: this channel is #ubuntu for ubuntu linux discussion, not Unix21:05
jukihow about nautilus koell?21:05
Merisn0ob, actually unix is a family of OS'es21:05
DrGrovikonia: Okay, that I could have phrased better :) I meant unsupported due to the fact it is an Optimus card.21:05
jukiis not lightweight?21:05
koelljuki: not tried before on lubuntu.21:05
ikoniaDrGrov: if it's working now, you've got solid odds with you that it will be 2ok" going forward,21:05
EffexI have a machine running 13.04 that doesn't respond to pings from other machines on the local network, unless the 13.04 machine in question is pinging the other machine first. Is this an arp issue? Any idea how to solve it?21:05
BeldarMeris, Ah just wondering I have not seen if before, you might post the bootinfo here for secondary help if none here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post1087191721:06
herpderphurrHey everyone. I wanna try a tiling window manager. Got any recommendations?21:06
glitsj16intrader: back .. i installed it just now, works ok here .. i pulled the .deb from the PPA and went through the preferences ... does it not start for you?21:06
spsfulDoes anyone know how to search directly for specific words or letters in a webpage?21:06
koellherpderphurr: i321:06
Beldarspsful, ctrl-f21:06
spsfulThanks21:06
ikoniaspsful: the "find" function in the browser ?21:06
matzzzkoell: there is no reason i can think of why it shouldnt work, if you are connecting the same way with the same credentials21:07
koellmatzzz: yeah thats the weird thing. ROFL21:07
DrGrovikonia: Okay, that is good. 12.04 works well but she is complaining when looking at my 13.10 install and how I have it set up. She wants the same :)21:07
StarvisitorHello im trying to install a more recent ati linux driver. Are the drivers in the Ubuntu PPA more recent then the default ones provided?21:07
ikoniaStarvisitor: depends on the PPA - there are many PPA's21:07
DrGrovikonia: But I will install 13.04 for her anyhow. I want to have a nice non-update cycle again for a year or two :)21:07
herpderphurrkoell: Thanks. I'll try it out21:08
spsfulquit21:08
BeldarMeris, I see this at the end of the script, might be relevant. Please do not forget to make your BIOS boot on sda3/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi file!21:08
spsfulsorry21:08
matzzzkoell: are you sure the username/password/ipaddress etc is the same, and have you double checked the server permissions?21:08
Starvisitorikonia, the launchpad PPA https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+source/fglrx-installer-updates21:08
ikoniaStarvisitor: check the package versions21:08
koellmatzzz: i may try it tomorrow again, late here :)21:08
Starvisitorikonia, the package version does no coincide with the ati driver version so its a bit confusing21:09
koellmatzzz: but many thanks for ur help!21:09
ikoniaStarvisitor: not really, the package versions such match either a) the ati packages b.) the open driver packages c.) the ubuntu versions21:09
jukimaybe you need the nouveau driver dveim21:09
ikoniaStarvisitor: there should also be information on the PPA's web page showing what they contain, if not contact the PPA maintainer and ask for clarification21:09
Starvisitorikonia, thank you very much I thought it would be alot more simple. =P21:10
unknwnyeah onetinsoldier unfortunatly no success :(21:11
dveimjuki: is default nvidia bad?21:11
jukiusing e17 is a workaround, but you should get your gdm working i think21:12
MerisBeldar, yes I have noticed, but I cannot find any option within my BIOS that looks even remotely like it would set that /sda3/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi file to be bootable. I'm not sure how to proceed. I wonder, should I just install grub2 to the root partition of my ubuntu install and chainload it from the Windows boot manager?21:12
dveimjuki: btw, in e17 screen size is too small, like was in unity =(21:12
jukimeris fdisk /dev/sda21:12
onetinsoldierunknwn: no? hmmm. what do you get from the following command? --> grep card0 /var/log/Xorg.0.log21:12
jukibut maybe isn't the video driver, if you're currently using a gui dveim21:13
BeldarMeris, I would use that thread, it is the bootrepair developer, and several others focused on these dualboots, don't do anything you are not sure of.21:13
unknwnonetinsoldier i get this21:13
unknwn[     5.038] ukiOpenDevice: node name is /dev/ati/card021:13
unknwn[     5.244] ukiOpenDevice: node name is /dev/ati/card021:13
unknwn[     5.244] ukiOpenDevice: node name is /dev/ati/card021:13
unknwn[     5.790] ukiOpenDevice: node name is /dev/ati/card021:13
FloodBot1unknwn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.21:13
BeldarMeris, Did you backup the windows?21:13
dveimjuki: sounds logically, but dunno what else21:13
Alpha_OmegaI'm going to play with it for a while and see what I can find out. I'll return if I have more questions or have a solution to share21:13
madpropsikonia jhutchins do you know how i can fire app network manager, i just installed it manually using dpkg -i but networkmanager or network-manager are not working21:14
Starvisitorhow can I tell if im running the 64bit version of ubuntu?21:14
Merisjuki, you want me to pastebin the output of fdisk /dev/sda? Beldar, yes I did a backup of Windows21:14
dveimjuki: in unity, i played with possible screen resolutions, and noone was ok21:14
ikoniamadprops: it's installed by default, why are you installing it yourself21:14
madpropsikonia: long story21:14
ikoniamadprops: why are you not using the repo and using dpkg21:14
Merisjuki, I ḿ restarting to the Ubuntu Live env. now, just a sec.21:14
jhutchinsmadprops: There are two components, the service and an applet in the destop.  It should be set up to start at boot and should actually be started when installed.21:14
madpropsi have no internet21:15
IdleOneStarvisitor: in terminal type: uname -a -- if you see X_64 in the output you are running 64 bit ubuntu21:15
jhutchinsmadprops: ps ax | grep net21:15
onetinsoldierunknwn: you'll need to use a paste website, or /msg me21:15
jhutchinsmadprops: Sudo of course.21:15
glitsj16intrader: feel free to pm me, i'm in & out of the kitchen though .. cravings heh21:15
madpropsjhutchins: it says something about netns21:15
StarvisitorIdleOne, x86_64 is that the same as 64bit?21:16
IdleOneStarvisitor: that is right21:16
StarvisitorIdleOne, tyvm21:16
jukiMeris: i don't think bios is responsible for setting bootable flags, you can mark a partition bootable using fdisk21:16
IdleOnesure thing21:16
madpropsjhutchins: what is the name of the applet?21:16
jhutchinsmadprops: How about service network-manager start?21:16
madpropsjhutchins: service already running21:17
Merisjuki, it is a gpt partitioning scheme, so fdisk won't work here, here's the output of sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda: /dev/sda1 1 500118191 250059095+ ee GPT21:17
madpropsi have wicd but it is not connecting to my router for some reason21:17
jhutchinsmadprops: You can't have both wicd and network-manager.21:18
Merisjuki, I can use gparted instead, which will show me the rest of the partitions within the gpt.21:18
jukimeris, fdisk will work21:19
jukiyou can change partition boot flags from fdisk21:20
madpropsjhutchins: ok i stopped wicd21:20
Merisjuki, apart from the output I've just shown you, it doesn't seem to show anything, it even recommends you to use gparted instead21:20
jukibut you may not need to for what you're having issues with21:20
madpropsjhutchins: what package contains the gtk applet?21:20
jhutchinsmadprops: Sorry, I don't know for gnome.  It should have come in as a dependency.21:20
spsHow do you go to the top result in google search by solely using the keyboard?21:20
madpropsjhutchins: im on openbox though21:21
hakeemmadprops, are u trying to conenct via wlan or eth ?21:21
madpropshakeem: wlan21:21
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hakeemmadprops, u are trying to connect via wifi or cable?21:22
Merisq21:22
madpropshakeem: wifi21:22
Merissorry about that, wrong keyboard^\21:22
andy__wats the command to join channels ?21:22
madpropshakeem: wicd doesn't work and i can't start the networkm-manager gui21:22
hakeemmadprops,  so try sudo dhcpclient wlan021:22
spsdoes anybody know how to go to the top search result in google by only using the keyboard?21:22
SchrodingersScatandy__: can try '/join #channel'21:22
spsDoes anybody know?21:23
madpropshakeem: command not found21:23
jukitab sps?21:24
zykotick9madprops: it's dhclinet21:24
spsI am so stupid. Thanks juki21:24
hakeemmadprops, really? u don't have a dhcp client?21:24
ceciliasp_hi there...massive crash can anyone help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/657435521:24
zykotick9hakeem: it's dhclient21:25
SchrodingersScatsps: http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/matching/google-feeling-lucky/Z29vZ2xlIGZlZWxpbmcgbHVja3k=/sort-by-votes21:25
madpropszykotick9: it just hangs in there21:25
DrGrovikonia: Thanks for the clarification into a future install :)21:25
hakeemzykotick9, yes i typed it wrong21:25
madpropsit's a wpa passphrase access point btw zykotick9 hakeem21:25
zykotick9madprops: i'm just correcting the command, i have no idea what you're doing - wasn't following21:25
hakeemmadprops, wait for it a little while21:25
madpropshakeem: will it offer it a way to provide a password?21:26
madpropszykotick9: do you know how i can install the network-manager applet gui?21:26
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zykotick9madprops: i don't touch N-M with a 30 foot pole, i have no idea.  good luck.  nm-applet perhaps?21:27
madpropszykotick9: there's no package named nm-applet21:27
glitsj16madprops: it's in network-manager-gnome21:27
zykotick9madprops: looks like glitsj16 has the package name, or try "apt-cache search nm-applet"21:28
intraderglitsj16, I did a sudo purge ... how do I remove the ppa?21:28
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zykotick9!ppa-purge | intrader21:29
ubottuintrader: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html21:29
ceciliasp_hi there. Massive crash. can´t boot. Here´s boot repair log http://paste.ubuntu.com/6574355 any help?21:29
glitsj16intrader: sudo ppa-purge ppa:... (the dots should be filled in with the specific PPA name, the one you used in the add-apt-repository step21:29
MerisBeldar, I'll post my output on the forum you directed me to, thx for the help so far :-)21:30
ikoniaceciliasp_: that info is worthless without info of the problem21:30
glitsj16intrader: so it didn't start for you?21:30
Bauerguys, there is a bug in Ubuntu 13.10, where I disabled a child's user profile by setting a password using passwd command - it seems to work only if I lock the account - it prompts for password. but If the user goes to the main screen with all the account, he has login button without password prompt21:31
Bauerwhy is that? and how to disable a child's account properly?21:31
ceciliasp_ikonia basically I can´t boot my system (windows nor ubuntu).21:31
ikoniaceciliasp_: "can't boot" is utter nothing information21:31
ikoniaceciliasp_: it's like me saying "fix it then"21:31
ikoniaceciliasp_: you need to give information about the problem21:31
ceciliasp_ikonia I can´t run boot repair either because it endlessly asks to unmount partitions21:32
mrb_ceciliasp_, when you start your computer what happens after the POST?21:32
hakeemmadprops,  try to connect with cable if u can21:32
hakeemmadprops, so u can download the fixes21:32
ikoniaceciliasp_: sorry can't help you while you're not giving any infomation other than "doesn't work" or "can't do this"21:32
mrb_ikonia, i would say he needs to update his grub21:32
ceciliasp_ikonia when starting computer goes direclty to grub rescue21:32
ikoniamrb_: I don't know how you can say that as so far we have no information about the problem, but if you want to blindly help him, go ahead21:33
hakeemmadprops, is "nmcli con list" works in ur terminal?21:33
ceciliasp_mrb_ when I restar computer it goes directly to grub rescue screen21:33
mrb_ceciliasp_, ok do you have like a LIVE CD/USB?21:33
ceciliasp_mrb_ yes, i´m running ubuntu from a live usb now21:34
mrb_ok, i just messaged you21:34
cGullI'm using 12.04 on a usb stick, system worked ok until i added a 2nd gpu (another 7990) now it won't boot. I've tried to verify the filesystem through the boot menu, it finds 4 bad files and wants to reboot, but that does nothing. I get these errors "ext2-fs (loop1): ext2_lookup: deleted inode refrenced: xxxx" until the system halts and nothing mor21:34
cGulle happens. Can i fix this or do i have to load up the usb with a new iso?21:34
Ben64mrb_: don't use pm. answer in the channel here21:35
mrb_Ben64, ok thanks sorry about that21:36
NidaleeHi21:36
NidaleeCan I get some help here? http://askubuntu.com/questions/390862/manually-turn-off-firewall-unblock-ssh-port21:36
intraderglitsj16, no, on account of the configuration being there. I looked in preferences and there was a list of files, where it did not find anything21:36
glitsj16intrader: do you have lm-sensors installed? i take it the indicator gets its info from there21:38
intraderglitsj16, the article also mentions psensor which I have installed, but I don't know how to add the gpu21:38
glitsj16intrader: me neither, i like plain numbers instead of graphs21:38
intraderglitsj16, lm-sensors, first time I hear about it - I don't know21:39
kevin_Yes are there any recommendations for a good Firewall for Ubuntu 13.10?21:39
Ben64!ufw | kevin_21:39
ubottukevin_: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | GUI frontends such as Gufw also exist. | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo21:39
kevin_yes i'm using gufw21:39
unknwnonetinsoldier you are a hero!21:40
glitsj16intrader: take a look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto, pretty vital if your system is overheating i'd say21:40
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mrb_Anyone have a recommendation for a native Twitter app on Saucy Salamander? (not Birdie)21:40
Ben64kevin_: well thats a firewall... so question solved?21:40
kevin_yes thanks21:41
glitsj16intrader: as the page says, you've got to install that and run sudo sensors-detect, see steps 1-421:41
intraderglitsj16, in article, no gpu - strange21:43
intraderglitsj16, is there an nvidia application for this purpose?21:44
glitsj16intrader: besides the nvidia-settings i don't know one, but for me, just installed the indicator-sensors, my nvidia gpu is picked up21:45
NidaleeCan I get some help here? http://askubuntu.com/questions/390862/manually-turn-off-firewall-unblock-ssh-port I can't login into SSH :/21:45
glitsj16intrader: i had to go with the same developers daily PPA though because the one mentioned in the article didn't offer packages for my ubuntu version21:45
martin__hi people21:46
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Random832I have two audio devices that use the same module, and I can't figure out how to force one of them to be the first sound card in alsa21:47
Random832has anyone else had this problem?21:47
martin__.21:47
glitsj16intrader: with those temps you're experiencing for so long now, perhaps it's wise to start a ubuntu forum and a nvidia forum thread (https://forums.geforce.com/ .. they'll probably have much better sensoring details for you than i do)21:48
NidaleeWat21:51
NidaleeHow doI "You will need to manually mount the hard drives, then you can edit the file causing the issue"?21:51
intraderglitsj16, good advice. I have just installed lm-sensors and run into the phrase 'Some south bridges...contain embedded sensors' ...21:51
kevin_Are there any Laptop power saving configurations/apps etc for Ubuntu 13.10?21:52
rootptyep21:52
glitsj16intrader: the ubuntu help documentation states you should answer yes to all yes/no questions, i'd go for that21:53
intraderglitsj16, notice that there is nothing in /etc/modules. It wants me to add coretemp21:56
rootptkevin_ http://www.noobslab.com/2013/07/how-to-improve-laptop-power-management.html21:56
kevin_thnx rootpt21:56
rootptu're welcome21:56
glitsj16intrader: that's lm-sensors regular behavior, accept and proceed21:56
intraderglitsj16, it appears that there is nothing for nvidia21:57
glitsj16intrader: not straight off no, but the indicator-sensors needs lm-sensors info, at least that's how i see it, otherwise it won't offer you sensors to configure .. and for my nvidia gpu i didn't have to add anything else21:58
intraderglitsj16, I'll add coretemp to /etc/modules while in sudo21:59
glitsj16intrader: sure, as long as it gets loaded you'd be fine22:00
honestemuAnyone here have experience using Pidgin as their IM client for Facebook?22:03
yeats!anyone | honestemu22:04
ubottuhonestemu: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.22:04
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honestemuAnyone here have experience using Pidgin as their IM client for Facebook?22:05
martin__nope22:05
intraderglitsj16, I'll add coretemp and probably get in trouble on restart won't I22:05
honestemuCan someone help me get Pidgin to work with group messages in Facebook?22:06
glitsj16intrader: why? it's quite a reliable kernel module used by many ..22:06
intraderglitsj16, so it will find coretemp upon reboot?22:08
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intraderglitsj16, I am being paranoid?22:09
soylentbombhonestemu: To my knowledge, facebook group chats were never implemented in XMPP, so they won't work in pidgin.22:09
glitsj16intrader: correct, but rebooting isn't needed, run sudo service module-init-tools restart22:09
glitsj16intrader: these days i'd prefer paranoid over foolishness anytime, but that's only my opinion :)22:10
cGullI'm using 12.04 on a usb stick, system worked ok until i added a 2nd gpu (another 7990) now it won't boot. I've tried to verify the filesystem through  grub2, it finds 4 bad files and wants to reboot, but that does nothing. I get these errors "ext2-fs (loop1): ext2_lookup: deleted inode refrenced: xxxx" until the system halts and nothing more happe22:11
cGullns. Can i fix this or do i have to load up the usb with a new iso? (Removing the 2nd GPU didn't help either)22:11
haysHey, how do I get to a terminal login shell with ubuntu? X is broken so I need to get in that way22:11
zykotick9!text | hays22:11
ubottuhays: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode22:11
glitsj16intrader: and double-checking, asking for clarification etc, part of IRC when it comes to technical support no, i don't take any of your questions as hostile or whatever, to the contrary, better safe .. etc22:11
intraderglitsj16, thanks, if I issue `sudo locate coretempt` it lists a bunch of stuff22:12
intraderglitsj16, thanks, if I issue `sudo locate coretemp` it lists a bunch of stuff22:12
glitsj16intrader: sure, that's what locate does, it looks through your filesystem, use lsmod | grep coretemp to see if it's loaded22:13
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glitsj16intrader: you don't need sudo for locate, only to update it's database (sudo updatedb)22:14
intraderglitsj16, it displays coretemp in a red letters - is it loaded?22:15
hayszykotick9: there was a time when you could hit Ctrl-Alt-F2 and get this22:15
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zykotick9hays: you still can?!22:16
glitsj16intrader: yes it is, the color is a default for grep i believe, nothing to do with your overheating heh22:16
hayszykotick9: not on my system22:16
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zykotick9hays: then try booting to text, with above instructions.  but sounds like you have more then just xorg broken.22:16
intraderglitsj16, cute - why on earth red?22:17
haysyeah i tried to add that and it didn't work22:17
haysand the link doesn't contain the information it says it does22:17
hayslet me try it again a different way22:17
glitsj16intrader: developer humor ? don't know :)22:17
intraderglitsj16, I will let it update /etc/modules and reboot -- see you in a while22:17
zykotick9hays: e to edit the grub line, add text then (i think) ctrl-x to boot22:17
Sciphey, does anyone know how I can suspend ubuntu running from a USB HDD?22:17
glitsj16intrader: okay, i'll go for another kitchen raid22:18
ScipI was thinking I might need to have the USB power persist or something like that22:18
honestemuCan someone help me get Pidgin to work with group messages in Facebook?22:18
honestemuI have normal messages working, but I don't receive group messages.22:19
hayszykotick9: yeah i get that.  but there is no sensible place to add "text". The grub options have things like load_video=true, etc...  text doesn't appear to be a valid option22:19
zykotick9hays: sorry, i have no further suggestions.  best of luck.22:20
soylentbombhonestemu: Again, group messages aren't part of the interface that facebook provides for chat clients, so there's no way to get them to work on pidgin.22:22
honestemusoylentbomb: Oh gotcha. You already said that? Must have missed it. Sorry.22:23
honestemusoylentbomb: Thanks for the help, though!22:23
soylentbombhonestemu: It's okay, things get buried in the join/parts.  You can always help us nag facebook about it.22:23
hayszykotick9: thanks!22:24
honestemusoylentbomb: Also, is there another chat client that provides facebook group messages besides pidgin?22:24
soylentbombhonestemu: Not that I'm aware of, since facebook doesn't provide that capability to third-party clients.22:26
spsCan anyone help me with this? I'm trying to run this in the GNOME Terminal22:28
sps"sudo apt-get install autoconf libtool libpcap-dev libboost-all-dev libudev-dev"22:28
honestemuDang. Worth a shot. Thanks again, soylentbomb.22:28
spsAnd it says unable to lock the adminiistration directory22:28
ActionParsnipSps: do you have software centre open or updates installing at present?22:29
zykotick9hays: can i ask - what started this?  did you manually install a video driver from nvidia.com perhaps?22:29
spsI'll check22:29
spsno22:29
ActionParsnip!aptfix | sps22:29
ubottusps: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »22:29
sontekWhat are the steps for getting a library built and onto my PPA?22:29
sontekI found these docs: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/BuildingASourcePackage  but it just talks about naming conventions and everything but not what files I need to create or anything22:30
wonron[mnv22:32
ActionParsnipSontek: id ask in #ubuntu-dev22:32
ikoniaubuntu-dev is not for packaging22:32
ikoniait's for core development22:32
ActionParsnipIkonia: but they will be familiar with packaging, no?22:32
ikoniaActionParsnip: that's not what that channel is there for,22:33
ikonia#ubuntu-packaging and #ubuntu-motu would be a better plac22:33
ActionParsnipIkonia: ok, but the hguys will be proficient with packaging wont they?22:33
ikoniaActionParsnip: not always, a lot of the developers won't package22:34
ActionParsnipIkonia: ok cool. Thats why i sugested it. There is method in my madness22:34
ikoniaActionParsnip: the guy in #ubuntu-dev writing glibc patches will probably have no idea how to build a deb package as thats not his job22:35
ActionParsnipOk22:35
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spsCan anybody help me? I am trying to stop software center from downloading but I can't even get to the 'progress' page22:37
spsThere is a loading sign in the middle of the icon though.22:38
cardude419hi22:38
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cardude419bai22:38
spsDoes anybody know what to do?22:39
xikur:)22:39
sps Can anybody help me? I am trying to stop software center from downloading but I can't even get to the 'progress' page. There is a loading sign in the middle of the icon though.22:41
gonyeresps - restart22:41
spsI just did22:42
gonyereand it automatically started back up downloading??22:42
spsI have no idea But the loading sign is still on the software center icon.22:42
spsAnd when I hit the progress bar I get a blank page.22:43
BlunderHow do I improve the VNC performance over my network. I've simply enabled Desktop sharing and it's lagging alot.22:44
gonyerewhat are you trying to download?22:44
ActionParsnipBlunder: what are you doing on the remote system?22:44
spsA few hours ago I started installing updates for Linux. But then I tried to install more through the terminal22:46
ActionParsnipBlunder: what OS is the client and the server?22:46
spsand It said it could not lock some library22:46
ActionParsnipSps: did you try the command ubottu gave?22:47
sps What command was that?22:48
spsI might have.22:48
ActionParsnip!aptfix | sps22:48
ubottusps: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »22:48
BlunderServer is Ubuntu 13.10 and client is Win 722:48
spsyes22:48
spsI tried that22:48
* betong_achmed wow 0x71 (xc) Our have setup their website again http://facebook.com/0x71.org , they are crazy all 0day from God which is Jesus Christ and all coded by God not them. even assembly ide and compiler they have it, not even reverse engineering from IDA Pro as good as them22:48
ActionParsnipBlunder: what do you do on the remote system?22:48
BlunderActionParsnip: Server is Ubuntu 13.10 and client is Win 722:48
ActionParsnipBlunder: why do you connect using VNC? What do you do on the remote system?22:49
BlunderActionParsnip: No terminal access, just GUI atm.22:49
BlunderActionParsnip: It's just so I can manage it without having to be in the same building as it, it's over a gigabit network (With over 500mbps throughput) and it's performance is very poor.22:51
ActionParsnipBlunder: manage in what way? Updates?22:51
BlunderActionParsnip: Updates, ensure Web server is still on.22:52
Tex_Nickubuntu 13.10, gnome fallback/flashback DE ... hyperlinks don't work in several apps (XChat, Libre Office Calc & couple others) with firefox ... when i click on a hyperlink in an app other than firefox, firefox opens a new window with my default home page instead of the hyperlink url ... if i change my default browser to Chrome, the hyperlinks open in a new tab as they used to on firefox ... any suggestions there ? ... if it's definately22:52
Tex_Nick a firefox problem, i'll ask in #firefox ?22:52
BlunderActionParsnip: And just generally change settings and config the machine - kind of just doing everything.22:53
ActionParsnipBlunder: you can run updates using apt-get in a terminal. Youan check web pages are up by connecting to it from the windows pc.22:53
ActionParsnipBlunder: all can be done over ssh, much faster22:53
BlunderActionParsnip: Of course, but i'd like to be able to remote into the desktop.22:54
ActionParsnipBlunder: plus if you port forward port 22 on the router you can manage it from outside your own network, and securely22:54
* betong_achmed wtf interpol is after me fuck you all i though this 0x8122:55
BlunderActionParsnip: Thanks, but i'd rather improve the performance of VNC22:57
dondopawtf betong?22:58
ActionParsnipBlunder: not something I use but i recommend you switch to ssh, its much more efficient for your requirements. You can connect using PuTTY from Windows22:58
BlunderActionParsnip: Sure no problems. Cheers.22:59
bobohey guys....anyone else see this in ubuntu 13.10 while installing red5-server?  http://pastebin.com/ipKXHG0K22:59
bobo!red5-server23:00
quilirohi23:01
quiliroi would like to know what command evice uses to print files to cups23:01
quiliroand what command cups uses to print to a remote cups23:02
quiliroso i can test the same proceedure from the command line23:02
quiliroand find the solution for a bug23:02
Laurenceb_http://imgur.com/a/ZJTDQ23:03
dondopafind the solution for a hug23:04
ActionParsnipBobo: juat searching23:05
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ActionParsnipBobo: do you have java installed?23:08
boboActionParsnip: yes java gives me the typical java with no input files message23:08
boboI even have javac :)23:09
boboand ant and ivy23:09
bobo:)23:09
boboif it failed but left it installed I might have chance to debug...but it seems to back out of installation of that package after failure23:09
bobo:(23:09
ActionParsnipBobo: could remove the application, then reinstall it23:11
aguitelhow to play .flac audio files23:12
Calinouaguitel, with an appropriate media player23:13
Calinoutry Clementine or VLC?23:13
aguitelvlc is not working23:13
aguitelmaybe audacius ?23:14
boboActionParsnip: that was different.  Now I get http://pastebin.com/C9TqRRpi  :D23:14
ActionParsnipaguitel: do you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed?23:18
aguitelActionParsnip, no23:19
ActionParsnipaguitel: try installing it23:19
ActionParsnipBobo: does the /usr/share/red5 folder exist?23:19
boboActionParsnip: yes23:20
ActionParsnipAguitel: also install gnome-mplayer23:20
bobowow23:20
ActionParsnipBobo: try purging again then rename the folder, see if it helps23:21
bobok23:21
marcolinoanyone care to explain to me how to rename web foldes without encurring some sort of 404/500 error when trying to access them via my browser?23:23
Jeruvymarcolino you may want to ask #http23:24
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ActionParsnipMarcolino: you'd need to either change the config file, or make a symlink to the new location23:26
marcolinoActionParsnip, going to look into that23:28
marcolinoJeruvy, wasn't even aware of #http channel23:29
Jeruvymarcolino you do now :)23:30
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livestronghello guys, some help with this error ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6575236/23:32
OerHeks!find gtkmm23:33
ubottuFound: gtkmm-documentation, libgtkmm-2.4-1c2a, libgtkmm-2.4-dbg, libgtkmm-2.4-dev, libgtkmm-2.4-doc23:34
OerHeksseems like that script is for an older ubuntu version, current is saucy 13.1023:35
livestrong/usr/include/gtkmm-2.4/gtkmm23:35
livestrong/usr/include/gtkmm-3.0/gtkmm23:35
livestrongwhy it's complaining about gtkmm ?23:36
OerHeksit is not finding it.23:36
OerHeksi am not sure how to fix that, what are you trying to build, and what ubuntu version?23:37
StarvisitorHello. Is there a way to move the unity launcher in ubuntu 13.1023:38
livestrongOerHeks: i'm trying to build GClist on ubuntu 13.1023:38
livestrongGClisp*23:38
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Tex_Nickubuntu 13.10, is there a global variable used for the default browser to open hyperlinks in ... such as right clicking on a hyperlink in XChat ?23:47
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zykotick9Tex_Nick: there is actually at least 2 "global variables" xdg and gnome23:51
Tex_Nickzykotick9: hmmm ok ... thanks for input there ... i'll look into xdg23:54
zykotick9Tex_Nick: you can test by using "xdg-open foo" and "gnome-open foo" to see if they differ23:54
Tex_Nickzykotick9: when you say gnome, would gnome tweak tools provide input to that23:54
zykotick9Tex_Nick: sorry, i wouldn't know...23:54
Tex_Nickzykotick9: hey ok really appreciate input there ... points me in a good direction ... thanks :)23:55
OerHeksyes, there is an standard browser in system sttings > details > default applications23:56
zykotick9Tex_Nick: hope it help :)23:56
Tex_NickOerHeks: jeeze man i thought i had looked around there ... i see it ... just changed it ... i'll test it in a few apps... thanks23:58

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