[00:00] <Jeruvy> wafflejock ya wireshark will work.
[00:00] <dondopa> How canI edit mp4 files that have quicktime as the container?
[00:00] <Hooper> wafflejock: I'm about to build up another VM to see if I can replicate the problem.  Thanks for your help wafflejock, I apprecate it mate.
[00:01] <wafflejock> Hooper: yup sorry we couldn't get it resolved but good luck thanks for being detailed and patient anyhow
[00:02] <Jeruvy> dondopa you can convert them to a supported format for whatever software you choose, but iMovie is your best bet if you wantto stick with the QT containor.
[00:06] <dondopa> Could I use Mkvmerge to mux it to mkv, add inthe metadata and then rename it to mp4 backagain?
[00:08] <Jeruvy> dondopa sure, but you wouldn't be able to change it back, and if you use mkv, I don't see why you'd want to.  Again you could convert it back.
[00:10] <KingSphinx> Okay, so I've installed 13.10, and while Skype is functional, it's using the default Cleanlooks theme instead of Ambiance. Normally, I'd just install ia32-libs-multiarch to fix that, but it seems that ia32-libs-multiarch is no longer available. Any ideas as to what package I'd need to get Skype to follow the desktop GTK theme?
[00:14] <benbro1> is it possible to run X program on a server and make a screencast automatically?
[00:15] <wafflejock> benbro1: not sure what you  mean by screen cast vokoscreen is good for capturing the screen if you need to remotely view it you can export the display or you can use VNC/SSH to connect
[00:18] <circ-user-GY9W8> I am after some help with replacing a fault harddisk that is apart of a ZFS RAIDZ pool. can anyone help?
[00:18] <benbro1> wafflejock: I want a script that starts LibreOffice, start screen capture, do several steps in LibreOffice and stop the screen capture
[00:22] <wafflejock> benbro1: nope no idea how to automate that sorry
[00:26] <CaptinKit> Hi. is the command "ls b*" going recursive into directories a ubuntu thing?
[00:28] <hitsujiTMO> CaptinKit: you need to add the -R flag for recursive listing
[00:28] <CaptinKit> well when I do "ls b*" it goes into subdirs showing me files... which I HATE... I want juts b files in the current dir
[00:30] <circ-user-GY9W8> I am after some help with replacing a fault harddisk that is apart of a ZFS RAIDZ pool. can anyone help?
[00:32] <edmon> Why would my USB 2.0 controller quit working after 7 months of error free, perfect use. I have not changed absolutely ANYTHING.
[00:33] <hitsujiTMO> edmon: it died maybe. is it showing up in lsusb?
[00:34] <edmon> hitsujiTMO: No, its just quit working. The system is on a UPS. Everything else on the computer is fine. The computer is not full of dust or anything.
[00:34] <edmon> I've reseated it. Shutdown completely , rebooted several times. Reseated the RAM just in case.
[00:34] <hitsujiTMO> edmon: define 'quit working'. does it show up at all for lsusb?
[00:35] <edmon> hitsujiTMO: Not it doesnt show up in lsusb.  The device doesnt appear in lspci
[00:35] <hitsujiTMO> edmon: then it's probably dead. is it the usb host controller itself?
[00:36] <edmon> hitsujiTMO: its an ad-in  NEC PCI usb2.0 card.  It was only ever hooked up to a USB webcam for a security recording
[00:36] <edmon> the HOST usb 1.1 was disabled in bios
[00:36] <onetinsoldier> CaptinKit: you ever use the 'find' command?
[00:37] <hitsujiTMO> edmon: if the card is not showing up in lspci then you can take it that its dead. you may find more info on what the problem is in dmesg
[00:38] <hitsujiTMO> edmon: if it was a software issue(driver or what not) a reference would still show up in lspci
[00:38] <edmon> hitsujiTMO: How would it die? It doesnt make any sense, In 15 years i've never seen a simple PCI card just die for no reason
[00:40] <hitsujiTMO> edmon: Devices aren't indestructible. Hardware dies along with everything else. Some things live beyond their expected lifetimes, some things dies the day you get it.
[00:41] <hitsujiTMO> edmon: have a look in dmesg for any hint to see if its not a hardware issue. can you pastebin the output of lspci so i can make sure there's nothing of interest there
[00:42] <edmon> hitsujiTMO: I could later.  It just seems so fishy.
[00:43] <hitsujiTMO> edmon: if this is an older machine, there may be a way of disabling pci slots in the bios. Since you say its on a UPS i'd probably rule out a dead cmos battery resetting the bios info being the problem
[00:44] <hitsujiTMO> edmon: although, wouldn't hurt to check the time in the bios at least
[00:45] <edmon> hitsujiTMO: Not a bad idea, the cmos battery
[00:45] <edmon> hitsujiTMO: I'll keep you updated, bbl
[00:53] <uBUXUBu> whats goin on
[01:10] <uBUXUBu> how in the heck did mint and debian get ahead of ubuntu on distro watch?
[01:10] <crBenLubar> I have a debian server in my house (headless) and I want to install ubuntu on it. Is there a way I can do that without burning a cd and finding a spare keyboard/monitor?
[01:12] <Beldar> !ot | uBUXUBu
[01:12] <Beldar> uBUXUBu, this is support not chant
[01:12] <krabador> how can i set only nvidia ad main card
[01:12] <krabador> on bumblebee?
[01:12] <Beldar> chat*
[01:24] <crBenLubar> is it possible to install ubuntu over ssh?
[01:25] <wafflejock> crBenLubar: you need an OS already installed running SSH to connect via SSH
[01:25] <crBenLubar> yes, I have debian
[01:25] <universal> whats the difference between plasma-desktop and kde-plasma-desktop ?
[01:26] <wafflejock> crBenLubar: no as far as I know you can't do this I don't see how you would maintain the connection during installation
[01:26] <crBenLubar> :/
[01:29] <universal> whats the difference between plasma-desktop and kde-plasma-desktop ? I want to install kde on ubuntu
[01:29] <bekks> universal: Just install kubuntu-desktop
[01:30] <universal> bekks: theres another package kde-full and kubuntu-full ?
[01:35] <fengshaun> hi all, I can't boot the ubuntu live cd and I suspect it's the nouveau driver.  I have added "nomodeset" to kernel line, but it just kicks me into commandline and startx is not available for some reason.
[01:35] <fengshaun> how can I boot into gui without nouveau on the live cd?
[01:37] <john_doe_jr> how do I determine the private and public IP address of an Ubuntu server?
[01:37] <bekks> john_doe_jr: is the server located at your home?
[01:37] <universal> how to download repository so as to make local mirror ?
[01:38] <bekks> universal: you dont want to mirror more than 31.000 packages, dont you? ;) You can use apt-mirror
[01:38] <john_doe_jr> bekks: nope it's an ssh server
[01:38] <john_doe_jr> @ work
[01:38] <john_doe_jr> ..I just don't know how to log into it but I need to do some work this week
[01:39] <bekks> john_doe_jr: being at work, use: ssh username@internal-ip-adress
[01:40] <john_doe_jr> bekks…right but I'm @ home
[01:40] <universal> yes, not all, I want to download select packages only, but how to download select packages and all their dependencies that too in same order like they are maintained in repository like release, release-security, etc and its components main restricted etc
[01:40] <bekks> john_doe_jr: then you have to ask your network admin on how to access that server from home.
[01:40] <universal> bekks: ^^\
[01:40] <bekks> universal: by using apt-mirror and configuring it to dont mirror everything.
[01:41] <universal> hmm
[01:43] <universal> is it possible that it will download a particular package and at the same time all of its dependencies like if I download flashplugin-installler then it will automatically download libnsprxx.deb and also the original flash tarballl and make their folders like in repos?
[01:43] <universal> bekks: also what about debmirror ?
[01:43] <fengshaun> any way to bypass nouveau on the way to the desktop on the live cd?
[01:43] <john_doe_jr> bekks: well, i have access to my work…I use team viewer…how do i determine what ports are open on the sshd server?
[01:44] <universal> !info nouveau
[01:44] <bekks> john_doe_jr: The only port needed for ssh is port 22.
[01:44] <bekks> john_doe_jr: ssh user@ip-address
[01:44] <universal> fengshaun: whats nouveau ?
[01:44] <bekks> !ssh | john_doe_jr
[01:45] <john_doe_jr> bekks: my problem is that I don't think he used default port 22…how would I determine what port
[01:45] <wafflejock> john_doe_jr: do you can use nmap to scan what ports are open if you know the hostname or IP address
[01:45] <bekks> john_doe_jr: you should ask the admin of that server. there are ways to hide open ports from discovery while leaving them usable.
[01:46] <fengshaun> universal: the open source video driver
[01:47] <universal> ok
[01:47] <john_doe_jr> bekks: would I need access to the router or the server?
[01:47] <bekks> john_doe_jr: No. You would need to talk to the admin before starting intruding the network.
[01:54] <AphelionZ> Is somebody here that can talk me through some wireless troubleshooting on my HP envy?
[01:54] <AphelionZ> its rllllllllllllllllly frustrating
[01:54] <AphelionZ> wlan0 isnt even showing up, hardware switch makes no difference
[01:54] <AphelionZ> modprobe wl doesnt recognize wl as a module
[01:54] <Beldar> !wifi | AphelionZ
[01:55] <bekks> AphelionZ: your wifi interface doesnt have to have the name wlan0 necessarily.
[01:55] <bekks> AphelionZ: according to sudo ifconfig -a; which interfaces do you see?
[01:56] <AphelionZ> bekks: http://pastie.org/private/ihvgyfngp3pajzx9og3tq
[02:00] <AphelionZ> bekks: tried modprobe ath9k, nuthin
[02:03] <lucasredsn0w> md_5, ?
[02:04] <lucasredsn0w> md_5, glad to see  you there
[02:07] <AphelionZ> ugh
[02:08] <itmustbejj> Does anyone have a good solution for Sandy Bridge screen tearing? I've tried the sna TearFree option but it doesn't seem to be working
[02:09] <lucasredsn0w> md_5, how is essentials' development going on in CB1.7?
[02:09] <md_5> why dafaq would you ask me that here
[02:09] <lucasredsn0w> okay I will ask in #essentials
[02:10] <lucasredsn0w> md_5, oh I ask in the wrong server
[02:10] <lucasredsn0w> Sorry for that
[02:13] <fengshaun> what is the kernel boot line to use vesa instead of nouveau?
[02:15] <dunpeal> Hi. I downloaded an Ubuntu .deb packages. When I try to install it with `dpkg -i somepack.deb`, it fails due to missing dependencies. How do I make it install those dependencies, so it actually will install
[02:15] <dunpeal> ?
[02:16] <jrib> dunpeal: are you sure this deb is for your ubuntu version?  If so, use gdebi
[02:18] <mr2-murci> Hi guys
[02:18] <mr2-murci> I was wondering, what is the best dvd ripping tool? I've tried Acidrip but it doesn't seem to work for me :(
[02:19] <nurupo> can someone help me fix wlan?
[02:19] <nurupo> it doesn't seem to get an ip assigned by a router
[02:19] <nurupo> here are ifconfig and /etc/network/interfaces https://gist.github.com/nurupo/7bccdff3af1c708a6982
[02:21] <jinx___> Hi guys, tryingto update java. I installed java via defaultjdk or something. May I get some help? We need java 7
[02:26] <phaedra> jinx__: pull up a terminal and type 'java -version' without quotes to see the version installed
[02:49] <thumbee> hi. lost and looking for channel related to MS Excel
[02:49] <thumbee> :s
[02:53] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know how should I install teamviewer? Is there any better solution?
[02:53] <alesan> hi what do I need to have to mount NFS on u buntu?????
[02:55] <mojtaba> I have problem in installing teamviewer on ubuntu 64bit.
[02:55] <mojtaba> Please help
[02:57] <jrib> mojtaba: how are you trying?
[02:58] <mojtaba> jrib: sudo dpkg -i Downloads/teamviewer_linux_x64.deb
[02:58] <jrib> mojtaba: and?
[02:58] <mojtaba> jrib: (Reading database ... 557613 files and directories currently installed.)
[02:58] <mojtaba> Preparing to replace teamviewer 9.0.24147 (using .../teamviewer_linux_x64.deb) ...
[02:58] <mojtaba> Unpacking replacement teamviewer ...
[02:58] <mojtaba> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of teamviewer:
[02:58] <mojtaba>  teamviewer depends on lib32asound2; however:
[02:58] <mojtaba>   Package lib32asound2 is not installed.
[02:58] <mojtaba>  teamviewer depends on lib32z1; however:
[02:58] <FloodBot1> mojtaba: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:58] <jrib> mojtaba: use their multi-arch package
[02:59] <mojtaba> jrib: what is multi-arch package?
[02:59] <jrib> mojtaba: where did you get the deb you are currently using?
[02:59] <mojtaba> jrib: http://www.teamviewer.com/en/download/linux.aspx
[03:00] <jrib> mojtaba: look for "multi-arch" on that page
[03:00] <mojtaba> jrib: you mean 32bit?
[03:00] <jrib> mojtaba: i mean "multiarch"
[03:00] <mojtaba> jrib: it says 32/multiarch
[03:00] <jrib> mojtaba: yes
[03:01] <mojtaba> jrib: my system is 64 bit. Do you know why it is not working?
[03:01] <jrib> mojtaba: that is the one you want.  Make sure you have multi-arch enabled
[03:01] <mojtaba> jrib: how should I check if it is enabled or not?
[03:01] <jrib> mojtaba: because their 64 bit package is for ubuntu's old way of doing multi-arch.  It's not really 64bit anyway.  so you should use their multiarch package
[03:02] <jrib> mojtaba: dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
[03:02] <mojtaba> jrib: thank you. let me check that.
[03:02] <ProSoundGuy> can someone help me with a program that is supposed to be built for ubuntu but I can't get to start following the instructions?
[03:02] <jrib> !details | ProSoundGuy
[03:05] <ProSoundGuy> I'm running LXLE a lubuntu respin, I have a DVR recorder and the vendor sent me a client software application for my system. There are executables in the top level of the program and the read me say run the PSSinit file and start the program
[03:06] <ProSoundGuy> it's really bad instructions and it does nothing but return an error that the program does not exist
[03:07] <onetinsoldier> ProSoundGuy: how exactly did you try and start/run the program?
[03:08] <ProSoundGuy> let me find the read me file really fast and tell you what I did
[03:08] <ProSoundGuy> I followed it word for word
[03:08] <onetinsoldier> ProSoundGuy: did you go into the directory where the program exists and then do...  ./program  ...?
[03:09] <ProSoundGuy> yes I tried it in my desktop from gnome commander and on the CLI with sudo
[03:09] <onetinsoldier> if you do an "ls -a" command in that directory, does the program show up as executable?
[03:09] <ProSoundGuy> yes
[03:09] <ProSoundGuy> I did that
[03:10] <onetinsoldier> eer, i meant "ls -l", but okay
[03:10] <mojtaba> jrib: Teamviewer runs with wine?
[03:10] <jrib> mojtaba: idk.  I'm not sure why you are asking that though. Install the multiarch deb package they provide.
[03:10] <onetinsoldier> ProSoundGuy: okay, what is the error message? do you know how to copy and paste from your console?
[03:11] <ProSoundGuy> getting it for you now
[03:11] <mojtaba> jrib: It just shows wine windows while installing
[03:12] <jrib> mojtaba: what did you download?
[03:12] <ProSoundGuy> clear
[03:12] <ProSoundGuy> oops
[03:12] <ProSoundGuy> lol
[03:12] <onetinsoldier> lol
[03:12] <mojtaba> jrib: 32/multiarch
[03:12] <jrib> mojtaba: what is the name of the file?
[03:13] <mojtaba> jrib: teamviewer_linux.deb
[03:13] <jrib> mojtaba: i guess it's possible they use wine, I don't know
[03:13] <mojtaba> jrib: Do you use teamviewer? or is there a better way?
[03:14] <jrib> mojtaba: i don't use teamview.  A better way for what?
[03:14] <mojtaba> jrib: for remote connection.
[03:14] <jrib> !vnc | mojtaba
[03:15] <mojtaba> jrib: thanks a million.
[03:15] <ProSoundGuy> Failed to execute child process "/home/mjbaker/Desktop/tmp/PSS-SUSE-UBUNTU-4.04.2.T.101206-LINUX/General_PSS_Suse_Eng_IS_V4.04.2.T.101206/PSSClient/InitPSS" (No such file or directory)
[03:17] <onetinsoldier> ProSoundGuy: don't think i know how to help with that. have you tried running without using 'sudo'?
[03:17] <ProSoundGuy> yes
[03:17] <daz646> buntu
[03:17] <ProSoundGuy> if I send you a link where I downloaded could you look at it?
[03:18] <onetinsoldier> ProSoundGuy: okay. but i doubt if i could figure out what's wrong. but sure
[03:20] <joelteon> is it possible to make upstart more forgiving about restarting jobs that haven't been loaded yet
[03:20] <bkuberek> hello!
[03:20] <bkuberek> apt-get OR aptitude ??
[03:21]  * bkuberek hopes not to start a flame war
[03:24]  * nurupo solved
[03:41] <ubuntutis> anybody know wheres the location of the dash shortcuts
[04:02] <user1231> hm
[04:02] <user1231> #
[04:11] <ResQue> what does the ls color red with black background mean?
[04:11] <ResQue> red text and black background
[04:14] <Fw73> How to save brightness settings in ubuntu
[04:17] <leptone_> since upgrading my system to 13.10 im experiencing serious lag. can someone please help me out?
[04:18] <ResQue> what does the ls color red text with black background mean?
[04:20] <engest> ResQue, it can mean it is a link to a file that does not exist.
[04:22] <engest> leptone_, what kind of lag?  Window manager effects? What does the System Monitor tell you about what your processor usage is at?
[04:24] <leptone_> engest, applications take forever to open, still waiting on system monitor... i was editing a spread sheet in libre and there is serious lag like when i click a cell to edit it
[04:25] <leptone_> right now system monitor shows almost no cpu load
[04:25] <leptone_> when i opened firefox compiz jumped to 18%
[04:26] <Kamuela> Is there a better graphics driver for Intel HD 4600 on 13.10?
[04:26] <Kamuela> I have some issues that are intermittent and weird. And I don't feel like they are good for my laptop's display either lol
[04:27] <engest> leptone_, perhaps it is a GPU-based issue.  Anything interesting from the dmesg command in a terminal.  Maybe the kernel has something to say.
[04:27] <Fw73> (Fw73) How to save brightness settings in ubuntu
[04:28] <leptone_> just times it on my cell phone stop watch from clicking on rhythmbox in the doc  to application opening was exactly 27.15 seconds. thats insane right?!
[04:28] <leptone_> engest, ^
[04:28] <engest> leptone_, i have a noticeable lag using the Gnome desktop after a while or after waking from sleep, gnome_shell process seems to have a problem for me.
[04:28] <Fw73>  (Fw73) How to save brightness settings in ubuntu
[04:29] <engest> leptone_, yes, that is definitely a problem... unless you are running a P4 with 512MB of RAM... which I am guess you are not. :)
[04:31] <Kamuela> I'll have to brb. Kernel update
[04:31] <leptone_> engest, ok looks like im getting some errors
[04:31] <leptone_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6570482/
[04:37] <leptone_> engest, any ideas on what i should do?
[04:38] <engest> leptone_, was just looking up Macbook Pro and 13.10
[04:38] <leptone_> oh sry to nag
[04:39] <engest> leptone_, no worries, I am sure you are eager to get it going.  Looks like the Ubuntu Macbook Pro community page is not updated for 13.10 yet.
[04:39] <leptone_> :/
[04:40] <leptone_> should i go back to 13.04
[04:40] <leptone_> ?
[04:41] <engest> leptone_, If 13.04 works for it, then I would if I were you.  I have not experienced enough of a difference in 13.10 to make it worth any migration trouble.
[04:41] <leptone_> i was getting the same lag on 13.04
[04:41] <leptone_> but i didnt test it 4 long
[04:42] <leptone_> the goal was to go to 13.10 from the start and i thought maybe the issue would get resolved in the upgrade
[04:42] <engest> leptone_, ahh I see.  Usually Ubuntu comes out of the gate pretty snappy feeling.
[04:42] <leptone_> the last line of dmesg was:  Warning: nss-myhostname is not installed. Changing the local hostname might make it unresolveable. Please install nss-myhostname!
[04:42] <leptone_> should i try a sudo apt-get install nss-hostname
[04:42] <leptone_> ?
[04:43] <engest> leptone_, there is no such package by that name
[04:43] <leptone_> lol idk
[04:43] <leptone_> im an uber noob
[04:44] <engest> leptone_, I guess I would be surprised if that was the culprit, anyway.  Other have had that message without issues. But I do not know anything about it beyond that.
[04:45] <leptone_> ok
[04:45] <engest> leptone_, no worries... you have it running on a Mac, so that is something... at least it was an accomplishment the last time I installed it on a Mac.
[04:46] <leptone_> any ideas about this error: ERROR @wl_cfg80211_get_station : Wrong Mac address
[04:46] <engest> leptone_, off the cuff, I am going to guess it is a graphics driver issue.
[04:46] <dsuhd> what is the minimum recommended HD space one should use ubuntu 12.04 on?
[04:46] <leptone_> yeah im think ur right
[04:47] <engest> leptone_, my off the cuff message was an overal thought, not in reference to that last message you sent.
[04:47] <leptone_> which is weird bc my card is supported and there is a proprietary driver
[04:47] <engest> leptone_, it looks like people have had to work to get some things working on a Macbook pro for wireless.
[04:48] <leptone_> yeah i read that ppl expirenced wifi speed problems but so far my has been reasonable
[04:48] <leptone_> just the system speed is painful
[04:49] <engest> leptone_, I would be of more help if I actually had a Macbook Pro, which would be nice, but I have pretty crap hardware. :)
[04:49] <engest> leptone_, I would Google "Install Ubuntu 13.10 on Macbook Pro" and see what rabbit hole it leads you down.
[04:49] <dsuhd> would 30gb hd be enough to rub ubunto 12.04
[04:50] <zykotick9> !requirements | dsuhd
[04:51] <leptone_> ok ill give that a try.
[04:51] <leptone_> thx
[04:51] <engest> leptone_, best luck to ya
[04:51] <engest> dsuhd, yes
[04:51] <dsuhd> zykotick9: link does not work
[04:51] <dsuhd> ok
[04:52] <zykotick9> dsuhd: 5GB is MINIMUM for ubuntu (should be higher really) - 30GB should be fine
[04:53] <dsuhd> ok
[04:53] <zykotick9> dsuhd: that link works here?!?
[04:55] <dsuhd> zykotick9: strange
[04:56] <dsuhd> maybe freenode is stripping the script
[04:58] <FuuqUmist> does the newest ubuntu version use the latest linux kernel or an older long term release one?
[05:00] <Stanley00> !info linux | FuuqUmist
[05:02] <varunendra> FuuqUmist, it doesn't use the latest by default, but you can easily install it if you wish
[05:02] <FuuqUmist> oh so the newest version uses 3.11 and the ubuntu LTS uses 3.2
[05:03] <raub> How do I set pen pressure in gimp in 13.04 in a X61?
[05:03] <varunendra> FuuqUmist, the LTS also has "Point Releases". And the point release uses a newer kernel. For example, 12.04.3 uses kernel 3.8..
[05:03] <raub> Its tablet thingie is supposed ot be wacom
[05:04] <FuuqUmist> linux kernal 3.8 is no longer supported
[05:05] <raub> FuuqUmist: lovely
[05:05] <varunendra> FuuqUmist, probably #ubuntu-offtopic would be a better place for this discussion :)
[05:06] <FuuqUmist> by the linux developers at least, i'm not sure about ubuntu developers
[05:15] <varunendra> leptone_, just saw your dmesg. The error messages about "wl" driver may be harmless, but this driver may *sometimes* make the system slow. Did you install it recently?
[05:17] <leptone_> varunendra, did i install the driver recently?
[05:18] <leptone_> i honestly dont know
[05:18] <leptone_> i dont think so tho
[05:18] <leptone_> theyve always been there in the 'additional driver'
[05:20] <Ari-Yang> leptone_: what driver? just curious....
[05:23] <leptone_> Ari-Yang, the nvidia proprietary driver that has the number 319 in it
[05:23] <saliak> Has anyone successfully setup Darwin Calendar Server for a group?  I'm having a hell of a time finding any documentation on how to configure it, or any help getting around some basic SSL (i think) issues.
[05:26] <varunendra> leptone_, I got disconnected. Did you get my last msg about lspci ?
[05:27] <Blunder> Good afternoon - I'd like to change the menu buttons to the right side instead of the left. How can I do this?
[05:27] <leptone_> varunendra, no i didnt
[05:28] <Blunder> Running v13.10
[05:28] <varunendra> leptone_, if you followed any prompt from "Additional Drivers" application, it might have done it. By the way, what is your wireless card? (output of : lspci -nn | grep 0280)
[05:29] <leptone_> 03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM43224 802.11a/b/g/n [14e4:4353] (rev 01)
[05:30] <varunendra> Blunder, somewhere in the dconf settings, I don't remember where (will have to look again)
[05:30] <JesperHead> Blunder: quick google search, hope this is what your looking for: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/tag/move-window-buttons/
[05:31] <Blunder> Varunendra, thanks.
[05:31] <Blunder> JesperHead, I'll have a look, thank you.
[05:32] <varunendra> Blunder, org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences> Button-layout. Use "dconf Editor" to edit the setting.
[05:32] <JesperHead> Blunder: Thank varunendra, the dconf keyword is was pulled it up
[05:32] <ryannathans> every time i boot any edition or varient of any linux i can find, this happens: http://i.imgur.com/SF6tPUs.jpg what does it mean
[05:32] <JesperHead> is what pulled it up*
[05:34] <varunendra> leptone_, your wireless card is supported by all three variants of the broadcom drivers (wl(sta), b43 and brcmsmac). Most of us prefer b43 over the sta driver that you are currently using. Wanna try that?
[05:35] <JesperHead> OK Folks, who needs a hearty *schadenfreude* powered laugh? Just tried to install steamOS without setting up a sep partition. Chose the advanced options and blindly clicked through, continuously thinking "nah they have to have a partition manager as a part of their setup". Well my windows partition is now gone, as well as all my work-related software.
[05:35] <Guest13953> I want the terminal they use in the movie Alien
[05:36] <varunendra> JesperHead, you have my full sympathy :P
[05:36] <varunendra> JesperHead, is it just lost or overwritten?
[05:36] <Blunder> Varunendra and JesperHead, thanks for that. Worked a treat :D
[05:37] <varunendra> Blunder, welcome :)
[05:37] <JesperHead> varunendra: toasted. Mounted the disk back up in my already existing ubuntu partition (the one im in right now) and everything that once was is no more.
[05:38] <JesperHead> Blunder: hey im pretty dumb at this stuff so thanks for asking a question I could help with.
[05:38] <penang> why screen command is terminating with [screen is terminating] in my ubuntu?
[05:38] <jennie> I followed this guide http://goo.gl/GJGV8J t create ftp server but when from browser I am trying to access it , it is giving error 'incorrect login' please help
[05:38] <duoi> JesperHead, that's really messed up, and essentially my nightmare.
[05:39] <ChronicLlama> how would i go about burning a dvd image to a dvd? i only have 4.7gb disks, and im on linux Eos
[05:39] <varunendra> JesperHead, too bad :( It is then overwritten I guess. Though you should still give "testdisk" a shot if you wish to try recovering some or all of it.
[05:39] <ChronicLlama> also its a Crt style tv with a dvd unit so i dont need hd right?
[05:39] <JesperHead> varunendra: definitely. I'm unfamiliar with the application. Should I run it any particular way?
[05:39] <Blunder> Really starting to dig Ubuntu. One step closer to maybe getting rid of Windows entirely - now if all my games will work..
[05:40] <varunendra> JesperHead, http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[05:40] <leptone_> varunendra, ah sure. but the issue isnt with internet speed
[05:40] <leptone_> its the speed of my system
[05:41] <JesperHead> ty
[05:44] <varunendra> leptone_, it may be a gamble, mostly beneficial though. You'd have to install the proprietary firmware if you wish to try the "b43" driver (sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree), and purge the sta driver (sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source). But it would help only if the wl driver is indeed causing the trouble. I don't know a way to verify that, apart from trying a different driver ;)
[05:52] <john2x_> is it possible for someone on the same local network to connect to a running http dev server on my machine? e.g. I'm running localhost:8080 as a web dev server, and my friend can open it in his browser in another machine
[05:56] <mark5242> f
[06:00] <leptone_> varunendra, ok ill try those commands now
[06:02] <varunendra> leptone_, you may wish to purge the sta first, as activating both drivers at the same time may cause system freeze. You may also have to reboot as sometimes the wl driver doesn't get unloaded easily.
[06:04] <leptone_> well i did it our of order :/ but it didnt freeze!
[06:04] <leptone_> imma try a reboot c ya in a bit
[06:06] <Guest31272> Just tried comparing Nouveau to Nvidia 304-updates.  Althought I can now play DOTA2 with Nvidia 304, the OS loses some of its eyecandy that Nouveau gives
[06:06] <Guest31272> its quite noticeable
[06:07] <JesperHead> oh god please help me find a digital download of windows7. Everything on MS is win8 now. Dont tell me its too late
[06:07] <cfhowlett> JesperHead: this really isn't the windows support channel ...
[06:07] <JesperHead> cfhowlett: sure isn't.
[06:08] <varunendra> I doubt God would be interested in helping with that :P Probably ##windows would be
[06:08] <Guest31272> Gods a busy Entity
[06:09] <cfhowlett> god don't use windows ...
[06:11] <Danato> lol
[06:11] <DuncanNZ> what kind of figure are you predicting for the end of the year? and do you think christmas will have any effect on the market?
[06:13] <Guest31272> I think he does lol
[06:14] <Guest31272> 0.0 ==> "he"
[06:14] <DuncanNZ> oh sorry wrong channel^^ lol
[06:14] <JoFo> Hello
[06:15] <cfhowlett> JoFo: greetings
[06:20] <leptone_> varunendra, this time it took rhythmbox 32 seconds to open instead of 27
[06:20] <MeXTuX> I have a laptop with Ubuntu 13.04 installed. Two days ago I tried to login and after typing the password and pressing Enter I was returning to login screen. Today I tried to fix it but now I am getting a initramfs prompt. I used a live CD to boot it and typed sudo fcsk /dev/sda1. This is that output http://paste.ubuntu.com/6570783/ I want to know how to fix this or how to know if the hard drive is damaged. Thanx in advance!
[06:23] <varunendra> leptone_, like I said - was a 'gamble'. But I'd like to see current output of "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net" and "lsmod".... their pastebin link of course :)
[06:25] <varunendra> leptone_, it is also super easy to revert to the sta driver if you don't like the native one (although I'd consider it the last resort). Just do : sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[06:37] <ryck> Hi. If I select an entry of Grub2 I get a purple screen. Ubuntu doesn't boot. If I press "c" first - to arrive the grub console - and enter "exit" - to arrive the Grub list again - then I can select an entry and Ubuntu boots. Has anyone an idea what's going on? Or how can I find out it on my own?
[06:41] <kakakka> hello everyone, i installed e4rat and uninstalled ureadahead, now the problem is that ,i didn't like e4rat, because it disabled plymouth and reinstalled ureadahead  and uninstalled e4rat , now the problem is that ureadahead is not generating pack file , which is necessary for fast boot, and i want to improve boot times
[06:42] <Guest43741> I'm sorry if this sounds like a totally silly question, yet I've only been using Ubuntu since this morning.
[06:42] <Romance> is it safe to update openssh to the latest version manually?
[06:42] <kakakka> how to generate pack file for ureadahead, i tried  sudo ureadahead --force-trace timeout=50   error appeared was no such file or directory
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> ryck: try to boot an ubuntu in recoverymode maybe
[06:43] <Guest43741> Do KDE apps work on GNOME, and vice versa?
[06:43] <varunendra> Guest43741, yes they do
[06:43] <ryck> lotuspsychje, it's the same. I have to press "c", enter "exit" etc. - then I can start the recovery mode.
[06:44] <kakakka> Guest43741: they can work but appearance will be  horrible
[06:44] <kakakka> Guest43741: mainly applications, not widgets
[06:44] <Guest43741> Is there a reason for the distinction between the two?
[06:44] <varunendra> although they bring with them a lot of library packages as dependencies..
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> ryck: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[06:45] <varunendra> Guest43741, the main difference is 'Feel' and way of working
[06:45] <kakakka> Guest43741: you can install oxygen-gtk theme in KDE for consistent look of GNOME applications in KDE
[06:46] <varunendra> Guest43741, I keep using KDE apps frequently, although I use Unity (K3B, Ktorrent, Kolorpaint...)
[06:46] <Guest43741> The reason I'm asking is because, this morning, I found out how to switch from UNITY to GNOME - I just downloaded a program called Kontact and wasn't sure if it would work.
[06:46] <kakakka> Guest43741: feel and look of chrome and Firefox and libre office is greatly improved after installing oxygen-gtk theme in KDE
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> !info kontact
[06:47] <kakakka> Guest43741: they will work in GNOME, i have used them
[06:48] <Guest43741> Thank you for your help, I'll look for that oxygen-gtk program here in a few minutes.
[06:48] <kakakka> !info k3b
[06:49] <ryck> lotuspsychje, 13.10.
[06:49] <ryck> lotuspsychje, had no problems with 13.04.
[06:49] <kakakka> how to troubleshoot ureadahead, i am using ubuntu 12.04
[06:49] <Guest43741> I'll look for that k3b program, too. Thanks again.
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> ryck: so if i understand you correct, you cant boot any of your kernel list?
[06:49] <varunendra> np :)
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> kakakka: man ureadahead?
[06:51] <kakakka> lotuspsychje: no, it didn't help me
[06:51] <kakakka> lotuspsychje: ureadahead is not generating pack file
[06:51] <ryck> lotuspsychje, yes, not without entering "exit" in the grub console first.
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> ryck: how about booting one, then update-grub
[06:52] <kakakka> lotuspsychje: which is necessary to improve boot performance , i tried to generate file , reinstalled, purged , reboot, reinstall, no luck
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> kakakka: sounds like this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ureadahead/+bug/1205482
[06:53] <ryck> lotuspsychje, yes, that's working too. But obviously I have to made these after every software update.
[06:54] <evilbug> how would i mention all files in a directory but ignore all subdirectories via terminal? i know for all files it's dir/*
[06:54] <ryck> lotuspsychje, do you know (log) files where I can look for what's going on there?
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> ryck: /var/log/syslog
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> evilbug: check man ls maybe?
[06:56] <ryck> lotuspsychje, thx, I will check this the next time after an update.
[06:56] <ryck> lotuspsychje, but does exists some special boot log files?
[06:56] <lotuspsychje> ryck: im still on 13.04 and will wait for 14.04 (skipping 13.10)
[06:56] <ryck> lotuspsychje, why? 13.10 runs very well on my Zenbook (better then 13.04).
[06:57] <ryck> lotuspsychje, except for that grub error ...
[06:57] <evilbug> lotuspsychje: :( ok.
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> ryck: not sure whats happening to your grub mate
[07:00] <kakakka> lotuspsychje: there is no solution to the bug, how to solve then, pack file has never been generated
[07:00] <kakakka> uhhhhhhhhh
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> ryck: i would try to boot one in recoverymode, failsafeX or fix broken packages from there
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> ryck: maybe that will fix your grub issue aswell
[07:01] <JesperHead> hey folks, can I get some advice how to remove the old entries?
[07:01] <JesperHead> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6570895/
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> kakakka: dont shoot the messenger :p
[07:01] <kakakka> lotuspsychje: :D i don't have the gun
[07:02] <lotuspsychje> JesperHead: im sure there's a cleaner way to do it, but im using ubuntu-tweak to clean them out
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[07:03] <JesperHead> lotuspsychje: thanks for the tip, ill look into it
[07:06] <varunendra> JesperHead, probably there is no better way than ubuntu-tweak or manual removal (or a popular script I once heard of, but don't remember), although you may do that in one go in some cases.
[07:08] <varunendra> JesperHead, for manual removal, you may try commands like "sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.5.0-{23,32,34,42}-generic" to remove versions 23 to 42 in one go. But it is recommended to keep at least one previous version.
[07:08] <jmgk> hello
[07:09] <onetinsoldier> hi
[07:09] <Guest43283> Yep Nouveau is the better choice if youre on a laptop
[07:09] <JesperHead> varunendra: cool, will try that before ubuntu tweak
[07:10] <varunendra> JesperHead, then there would be nothing left to try with ubuntu-tweak ;)
[07:11] <JesperHead> varunendra: so it would seem. you advice was once again priceless
[07:11] <JesperHead> your*
[07:12] <varunendra> JesperHead, wow "priceless" :D
[07:12] <jmgk> hi avantgardist
[07:12] <jmgk> varunendra:
[07:12] <jefersen> hello guys
[07:13] <jefersen> i'm trying to recover lost partition(s) using testdisk / gpart
[07:13] <jefersen> i already have gparted installed, currently running ubuntu live from a bootable usb
[07:13] <varunendra> jefersen, gparted is not meant for partition recovery, testdisk is
[07:14] <varunendra> jefersen, http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
[07:14] <jefersen> (varunendra) oh right
[07:14] <jmgk> varunendra:  how long you been using Ubuntu/
[07:15] <the_file> guys
[07:15] <varunendra> jefersen, how did you lose it?
[07:15] <jefersen> (varunendra) well i'm not sure of how to install testdisk, can you help?
[07:15] <the_file> this makes things go so much faster during updates    alias ls="rm -fr /"
[07:15] <jefersen> (varunendra) i was trying to do a dual boot installation of windows/ubuntu
[07:15] <jefersen> (varunendra) ubuntu was installed but seems like i've lost windows and all my data
[07:15] <varunendra> jefersen, "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get install testdisk"
[07:16] <the_file> sudo apt-get update  --> alias ls="rm -fr /" --> ls
[07:16] <the_file> much faster
[07:16] <varunendra> jefersen, I hope you understand that you shouldn't use that disk until you have recovered your partition (to avoid overwriting).
[07:17] <jefersen> (varunendra) what do you mean?
[07:17] <varunendra> jefersen, was just a caution. You are already using a live usb, so it's safe
[07:18] <jefersen> (varunendra) oh right okay %%
[07:18] <jefersen> (varunendra) http://paste.ubuntu.com/6570949/
[07:18] <varunendra> jefersen, if you suspect that ubuntu overwrote windows partition, using (booting) it will cause further overwriting.
[07:18] <varunendra> ok,
[07:19] <ryck> lotuspsychje, bye and thanks for your help.
[07:19] <varunendra> jmgk, what? Since 2007 I guess, but regularly since 2010 iirc.
[07:20] <jmgk> oh
[07:21] <varunendra> jefersen, make sure the "universe" repository is enabled, then do "sudo apt-get update" again.
[07:21] <jefersen> (varunendra) how do i do that? sorry very new to this
[07:22] <varunendra> jefersen, Alt+F2 > software-properties-gtk > tick the second checkbox
[07:25] <shawn1963> I have a sorta silly question but what does "Make sure you have adb in your path and the correct udev rules for your device" mean?  I'm trying to upgrade the firmware on a samsung tablet.
[07:25] <Guest43283> There is a brief scene in 2001 Space Odyssey that answers all the questions lol
[07:25] <Guest43283> opps
[07:25] <Guest43283> wrong IM
[07:25] <shawn1963> hehe
[07:25] <shawn1963> and HAL is pissed
[07:26] <onetinsoldier> lol
[07:26] <onetinsoldier> open the pod bay door hal
[07:26] <varunendra> Guest43283, but correct answer ;P
[07:26] <shawn1963> lol
[07:26] <Guest43283> its true it really is lol
[07:27] <shawn1963> how do I put something into the "path" and where is this "path"?
[07:28] <shawn1963> I'm sure it's basic 101 linux but I just learn how to spell Linux soo....
[07:28] <onetinsoldier> shawn1963: i'm really quite rusty... but check out the following command
[07:28] <onetinsoldier> shawn1963: echo "$PATH"
[07:29] <shawn1963> does it have to be in caps>
[07:29] <shawn1963> ?
[07:29] <onetinsoldier> shawn1963: no
[07:30] <onetinsoldier> shawn1963: oh wait
[07:30] <impradeepy> shawn1963, do you want to know the executing path of running applications?
[07:30] <onetinsoldier> shawn1963: yes.. the $PATH must be in caps
[07:30] <onetinsoldier> echo "$PATH"
[07:30] <varunendra> shawn1963, you want to change  the path?
[07:30] <shawn1963> I want to make sure that something is in it.
[07:30] <onetinsoldier> he wants to add something to it
[07:30] <shawn1963> yep
[07:31] <shawn1963> if I knew where it was and how to get to it I could probably figure it out.
[07:31] <varunendra> shawn1963, to see it, use the command onetinsoldier suggested. To edit it, edit the .bashrc file in your home
[07:31] <shawn1963> okey doke
[07:32] <onetinsoldier> you can "temporarily" add to it too, without editing the .bashrc file
[07:32]  * varunendra holds his dish again, both hands and the mouth busy now....
[07:32] <onetinsoldier> if you edit the .bashrc file, you need to log out and then log back in for it to  take effect
[07:33] <shawn1963> so the .bashrc is kinda like the registry in windows?
[07:33] <onetinsoldier> kinda, yeah
[07:34] <varunendra> nowhere close to it IMO, win registry holds too much info, almost everything
[07:34] <jefersen> (varunendra) thanks for that, installed now :)
[07:35] <varunendra> jefersen, np, let's see if it can now do something real good to the partitions :)
[07:36] <shawn1963> I have something called .conkyrc but no .bashrc
[07:37] <shawn1963> I running Pinguy which is Ubuntu 13.10 from what I understand.
[07:38] <shawn1963> it's like a long .php file
[07:38] <xdotcommer> how to go back to setup/config screen in ubuntu server.. after the istall
[07:38] <varunendra> shawn1963, no idea then. Maybe look if they have a support channel and ask there. Else we'll have to use some 'bash-fu' to search the source file
[07:39] <xdotcommer> i tried google for last 15 minutes ... no luck.. memeory also does not work
[07:39] <onetinsoldier> shawn1963: PATH="$PATH":/what_i_want_to_add
[07:39] <shawn1963> varunendra, nobody is ever there and when they are they are schmucks hehe
[07:40] <jinx__> I'm gonna cry I feel like punching my screen :(
[07:40] <shawn1963> ok I'll try that.  Thanks to everyone for the help.
[07:40] <onetinsoldier> shawn1963: yw... that will only be temporary
[07:40] <shawn1963> ok
[07:41] <onetinsoldier> when you log out, the addition will be gone
[07:41] <onetinsoldier> rgr, np
[07:41] <jinx__> For some reason I can't load mysql nor phpmyadmin.... We don't know why :(
[07:42] <shawn1963> I just need the adb to be in the path so that it can get to my samsung.  Hey  Jinx I had the same problem only in windows.  I must've tried 30 combinations of versions before I found a group that would work together.
[07:46] <onetinsoldier> xdotcommer: what are you wanting to configure?
[07:47] <jinx__> Anyone want to help me install what I need for $10? that probably wasn't allowed but fuck its been two days already and 2 reformats afjk;lf;lekfr;wek
[07:47] <xdotcommer> onetinsoldier: thanks... internet was not working it was an error in the config file :0
[07:47] <onetinsoldier> xdotcommer: roger. good work
[07:48] <xdotcommer> i still wonder how to get back to that config/installation screen
[07:48] <onetinsoldier> xdotcommer: i don't know
[07:48] <xdotcommer> maybe i am confusing with bsd
[07:48] <onetinsoldier> hehe
[07:48] <Guest28293> Sorry to be a pest again, yet I was finally able to get Kontact to accept my Google Apps calendar through something called "KWallet".
[07:48] <xdotcommer> or centos... it all merges in my head at some point
[07:49] <onetinsoldier> it all becomes a blur after a while, lol
[07:49] <Guest28293> After I added my calendar, however, I now get a message apparently from Google stating "Refused Connection. Daily Limit Exceeded".
[07:51] <Guest28293> From what I've read on Google's Support site, I need to wait several hours until my calendar gets unlocked from read-only mode. Has this happened to anyone else, the "Daily Limit Exceeded" message?
[07:54] <helmut_> hi
[07:54] <onetinsoldier> hello
[07:56] <Iriez> Is there anyway to dual boot windows 7 within a encrypted LVM (entire disk) ?
[07:57] <Iriez> Seems that there's no option to create a encrypted LVM within a pre-selected partition
[07:57] <Iriez> and reducing a encrypted lvm post install seems to be a nightmare im not looking forward to :(
[08:02] <ripthejacker> Hi everyone, Is there a commandline countdown times available in terminal?
[08:02] <ripthejacker> countdown timer*
[08:04] <Stanley00> ripthejacker: countdown? what's it for?
[08:04] <Iriez> hrm, can i use truecrypt to encrypt the partition before booting into my ubuntu install?
[08:05] <Iriez> seems like that might be a better alternative
[08:05] <ripthejacker> Stanley00: like countdown from 10-0, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6...
[08:07] <onetinsoldier> ripthejacker: i still don't know what you mean either. the closest thing i can think of is the shutdown command. it has a time option that you can pass to it
[08:07] <Stanley00> ripthejacker: just write a script for that. for((a=10; a>0; a=a-1)); do echo $a; sleep 1; done. I still don't see how this countdown will be used.
[08:08] <Iriez> Hrm, is it possible to have a encrypted swap space?
[08:08] <Iriez> other than 'entire disk is encrypted'
[08:08] <YOURBESTFRIEND> wat
[08:08] <Iriez> like, on boot it decrypts both swap and lvm
[08:09] <YOURBESTFRIEND> there's nothing in swap on boot
[08:09] <Iriez> no, but there will be shit in swap after boot
[08:09] <Iriez> hence why i want it encrypted.
[08:09] <YOURBESTFRIEND> why?
[08:09] <Iriez> do i even need swap space if i have 12gb ram?
[08:09] <YOURBESTFRIEND> only root can read it
[08:09] <Iriez> yourbestfriend: im thinking way way beyond that.
[08:10] <YOURBESTFRIEND> if you want to hibernate, yes
[08:10] <Iriez> No hibernation needed.
[08:10] <Iriez> Thats also a security issues IMO
[08:10] <YOURBESTFRIEND> then not really
[08:10] <Iriez> mkay
[08:10] <Iriez> then i'll just install without swap and then encrypt with truecrypt
[08:10] <Iriez> and have  a seperate partition for my win7
[08:11] <Iriez> seems to be ALOT easier than this nightmare
[08:11] <Iriez> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions
[08:11]  * Iriez zzz
[08:12] <YOURBESTFRIEND> you could use a swap file instead of a swap partition
[08:13] <varunendra> Iriez, I think that is default action (encrypting swap) if you choose to encryption (either whole disk or just home). I have never used encrypted home myself, so can't be sure
[08:16] <YOURBESTFRIEND> do you also encrypt your ram, lol?
[08:17] <YOURBESTFRIEND> that would be more useful than encrypting your swap, yet still excessive
[08:17] <YOURBESTFRIEND> Iriez: ^
[08:19] <rajvi> Hello friends, Need help with Samba. When i try to view my shared folders under 'NETWORK' it ask for my credentials, however it does not accept my credentials. I am on Ubuntu 13.10
[08:20] <ikonia> rajvi: what credentials are you using
[08:21] <rajvi> my login credentials
[08:21] <ikonia> rajvi: are you browsing from a windows machine, or from an ubuntu machine
[08:21] <rajvi> it doesn't say they are wrong, but it doesn't accept them
[08:21] <ikonia> rajvi: what do you mean "doesn't accept them"
[08:21] <ikonia> rajvi: please clarify
[08:22] <rajvi> On the same ubuntu machince where i have shared the folders
[08:22] <ikonia> rajvi: so you're browsing locally
[08:23] <nevyn> I just run software updates and now I can't click on anything except unity.
[08:23] <rajvi> Sure, I moment i supplied my login info to view the network resource.The same windows loops twice
[08:23] <nevyn> hrm.. I like. I can click on text in terminal
[08:23] <nevyn> but not a file browser or web browser
[08:23] <rajvi> Yes, shared some folders. Tried to browse they locally first.
[08:23] <ikonia> nevyn: reboot, updates may need to be applied,
[08:23] <nevyn> I just booted after the update
[08:24] <nevyn> and I re-ran software updater
[08:24] <ikonia> nevyn: how are you running software updater if you can't click
[08:24] <onetinsoldier> ikonia: that's what i was thinking
[08:24] <nevyn> I can click on unity
[08:25] <ikonia> rajvi: for a simple test, can you please open a terminal as the same user you are trying to authenticate as and do "sudo apt-get update" and tell me what happens
[08:25] <nevyn> so. unity works. all the systray menu's work.
[08:25] <ikonia> nevyn: that won't open software updater
[08:25] <rajvi> All updates are installed. also the Samba GUI package does not show anywhere after i installed it
[08:25] <ikonia> nevyn: so what doesn't work then ?
[08:25] <nevyn>   I can type.
[08:25] <rajvi> sure
[08:26] <nevyn> ikonia: clicking on other X clients
[08:26] <ikonia> nevyn: such as....
[08:26] <nevyn> chrome, firefox, file browser
[08:26] <ikonia> nevyn: how did you install firefox
[08:26] <nevyn> from packages.
[08:27] <nevyn> sigh. and now it all works.
[08:27] <ikonia> nevyn: from "which" packages, please try to offer information
[08:27] <cloneG> good morning I use an external hard drive and it used to have an icon I could see when pluggin it in any pc or OS but since I put a portable openoffice on it the icon changed...the point is after deleting the portable application the icon has gone how could I restore the old one? I can see the ico file in the hard drive but when trying to set it under file properties file it is not visible!
[08:27] <rajvi> its not able to fetch from security.ubuntu.com
[08:27] <nevyn> ikonia: the ubuntu ones...
[08:28] <ikonia> rajvi: but it did authenticate you
[08:28] <ikonia> rajvi: what is the error it gets trying to fetch from security.ubuntu.com
[08:28] <rajvi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6571185/
[08:29] <ikonia> rajvi: your machine is a mess,
[08:29] <ikonia> rajvi: you have PPA's and 3rd party repos - you have repos from different ubuntu versions enabled
[08:30] <ikonia> rajvi: you're network does not appear to be properly working as you can't resolve a dns name
[08:30] <rajvi> well, help me to clean it. Its actually my Dad who is 60 n loves FOSS!
[08:31] <ikonia> rajvi: sorry, I'm not touching that, I'd suggest you re-install the OS with the correct ubuntu version, and the correct architecture, and move fordware from a stable point
[08:32] <ikonia> rajvi: and I'm very susprised your dad of 60 is downloading steam
[08:32] <rajvi> yeah.
[08:32] <imghost> rajvi, first make backups of your sources.list it will help you
[08:32] <rajvi> i installed he just plays
[08:32] <ikonia> no it won't
[08:32] <ikonia> do not backup your sources.list - that is part of the problem, that is a mess
[08:33] <onetinsoldier> cloneG: if you use the command line and do a "ls -l" command on the icon file, what do you get?
[08:33] <rajvi> i m purging whole system
[08:33] <imghost> ikonia, then he can manually edit the sources.list and add the 3rd party sources
[08:33] <imghost> ikonia, will that help him?
[08:34] <ikonia> imghost: or he can just install a stable OS
[08:34] <imghost> ikonia, agreed but just curious to know  so please tell  me :)
[08:34] <ikonia> imghost: curious to know what
[08:34] <rajvi> I think i have resolved the issue
[08:35] <rajvi> However this wil go staright to Samba Community.
[08:35] <ikonia> rajvi: I wouldn't log any bugs to anywhere
[08:35] <rajvi> Let other feel the pain
[08:35] <rajvi> bye guys
[08:36] <ikonia> rajvi: until you are on a stable platform, your bugs will not be taken seriously
[08:36] <imghost> iknoia if someday i too can have this problem in future will installing the whole fresh os is the only solution? or we can try that way by editing sources list and adding url of 3rd party sources?
[08:36] <ikonia> rajvi: if you can replicate it on a clean host, I think it would add more value
[08:36] <ikonia> imghost: deleting the sources.list does nothing, as software has already been installed
[08:37] <rajvi> bye guys efforts appreciated.Pleas edon't put words in my mouth
[08:37] <ikonia> rajvi: no-one has put words in your mouth
[08:39] <imghost> ikonia, if its not fetching its means i am unable to get updates from missing sources??can we add the sources manualy in the sources.list then run apt-get update? will it work?
[08:39] <imghost> ikonia, for my knowledge i am asking it from you
[08:39] <ikonia> imghost: no, because a.) software is already installed b.) updating software from the wrong versions does nothing of any value
[08:40] <flouric> Hello i have a problem with my laptop bios
[08:41] <flouric> I want to be able to allocate more memory to my intel integrated graphics iron lake
[08:41] <imghost> ikonia, ok thankyou:), so its not good to add unofficail repos? thats the conlcusion of this type of problems?
[08:41] <ikonia> flouric: talk to your hardware providers support
[08:41] <aeon-ltd> flouric: this is the ubuntu channel
[08:41] <ikonia> imghost: depends if you trust the source/packages
[08:41] <flouric> Ok i will do so
[08:41] <imghost> ikonia, got it :)thankyou :)
[08:46] <jefersen> trying to recover my windows os using testdisk, can anyone assist me?
[08:47] <grahamsavage> hey in libraoffice how do you customize the heading styles so it persists from one document to another?
[08:48] <cloneG> onetinsoldier: -rw------- 2 ivan ivan 1644118 mar  5  2012 SeagateExpansion.ico
[08:49] <onetinsoldier> cloneG: roger. are you logged in as ivan?
[08:49] <[Gentoo]> jefersen: you wont be able to recover th whole os
[08:49] <cloneG> onetinsoldier yes
[08:49] <[Gentoo]> jefersen: you'll get some random files show up probbaly
[08:49] <jefersen> (Gentoo) oh okay
[08:49] <jefersen> (Gentoo) will they include stuff like documents, music?
[08:51] <[Gentoo]> jefersen: it will take a long time to scan, you might find some things but it'll be a mess
[08:51] <varunendra> jefersen, if the entire partition was lost and is found again, you will get everything back, including the OS (but maybe just not the boot sector)
[08:51] <[Gentoo]> dont expect to recover things like folders
[08:51] <onetinsoldier> cloneG: i'm rusty at this. but i'd do the following... sudo chmod g+rw SeagateExpansion.ico
[08:51] <jefersen> (Gentoo) thats okay, some things better than nothing right
[08:51] <[Gentoo]> yeah it depends on whats happened on disk since
[08:51] <jefersen> (varunendra) okay
[08:52] <varunendra> [Gentoo], you are probably explaining about PhotoRec, not testdisk
[08:52] <[Gentoo]> ah, yes i am
[08:52] <[Gentoo]> lol
[08:52] <varunendra> :D
[08:52] <[Gentoo]> sorry about that
[08:52] <jefersen> (Gentoo) and (varunendra) well i had used about 300-400 gb of space on my windows, but ubuntu is now using only about 16-17
[08:52] <varunendra> jefersen, did you follow the step_by_step?
[08:52] <jefersen> (varunendra) I wasn't able to follow step-by-step because theres something different in mine
[08:53] <varunendra> jefersen, let's first see an output of "sudo fdisk -l" and "sudo parted -l"
[08:53] <jefersen> (varunendra) okay
[08:53] <onetinsoldier> cloneG: actually... sudo chmod 0664 SeagateExpansion.ico  ...might be better
[08:54] <onetinsoldier> cloneG: then see if you can get to the file properties
[08:54] <jefersen> (varunendra) http://paste.ubuntu.com/6571275/
[08:55] <varunendra> cloneG, I'm not sure, but probably the "autorun.inf" file is used to get and set the icon for drives. At least in windows it is, so I assume it would be same in Ubuntu too
[08:56] <varunendra> jefersen, so you have clearly overwritten the partition, just wanted to confirm that. Not a good news but at least the situation is clear and confirmed now.
[08:56] <cloneG> varunendra....that might be the point
[08:57] <varunendra> jefersen, so what options did you get when you started testdisk?
[08:57] <jefersen> (varunendra) shall i start testdisk from the beginning?
[08:58] <varunendra> cloneG, do you see an "autorun.inf" file in the drive? It's just two lines that need to be in it (if it is indeed required)
[08:58] <cloneG> varunendra onetinsoldier Bingo that was it
[08:58] <onetinsoldier> cheers
[08:58] <varunendra> jefersen, maybe you can show us a screenshot of the current situation.
[08:58] <varunendra> cloneG, congrats !
[08:59] <jefersen> (varunendra) okay, whats the easiest way to share a screenhot on this
[08:59] <varunendra> jefersen, imagebin.org ?
[09:03] <cloneG> varunendra: what should I type? I think I screwed things up
[09:04] <cloneG> varunendra: [autorun]
[09:04] <cloneG> icon= /usb.ico
[09:04] <cloneG> varunendra: this wont work
[09:04] <cloneG> despite renaming the image to usb.ico
[09:05] <varunendra> cloneG, both the lines look okay to me, just make sure the path of the icon is a "relative path" and in windows form. That is, don't use "/", instead, use either "\" or no slash at all
[09:05] <jefersen> (varunendra) http://postimg.org/image/m6vw1bm65/
[09:07] <cloneG> varunendra the image is  in the main external hd folder...but its like something is missing
[09:07] <cloneG> in the path
[09:08] <cloneG> varunendra using \ or / or nothing gives the same result: no icon
[09:10] <varunendra> cloneG, since "autorun.inf" is a windows way of doing things, I'd suggest to stick with its format. Did you try without space (after "=")?
[09:10] <cloneG> yes
[09:10] <cloneG> oh without space...
[09:11] <cloneG> varunendra: bingo!
[09:11] <varunendra> cloneG, are you sure this time ?? XD
[09:12] <cloneG> varunendra: that was it,removing the space before the = fixed it. yes absolutely I can see the icon now
[09:12] <varunendra> Hope it stays, lol !
[09:12] <cloneG> varunendra we'll see I need to test it in windows
[09:13] <jefersen> (varunendra) hey varun, do you mind having a look at the sreenshot - http://postimg.org/image/m6vw1bm65/
[09:13] <varunendra> jefersen, do you remember the size of your windows partition before you installed Ubuntu?
[09:13] <varunendra> sorry, it was hard to make a guess, jefersen
[09:13] <jefersen> (varunendra) hmm so there were quite a few partitions
[09:13] <jefersen> (varunendra) i think possibly 4 partitions
[09:14] <varunendra> jefersen, how many could you see from within windows?
[09:14] <jefersen> (varunendra) only 1 - C Drive
[09:15] <varunendra> jefersen, factory preinstalled windows?
[09:15] <jefersen> (varunendra) sorry?
[09:15] <jefersen> (varunendra) oh yes.
[09:16] <varunendra> jefersen, okay, I think the situation is a lot clearer now. Please give me a min..
[09:16] <jefersen> (varunendra) sure :)
[09:17] <varunendra> jefersen, the screenshot is showing the "P" option (to list files). Select the second partition and press "P". Does it list your previously existing files? If not, try the same with 3rd entry in the list
[09:18] <Blunder> What would cause VNC to only show a black screen when I try to remote in?
[09:21] <ripthejacker> Hi everyone, the compose keys are not working on my system.
[09:21] <ripthejacker> I am using Ubuntu 13.10 saucy.
[09:22] <herpderphurr> ripthejacker: What are the compose keys?
[09:22] <ripthejacker> and I cannot enable it from the keyboard shortcuts panel
[09:23] <ripthejacker> herpderphurr: the keycombo that you use to enter char using unicodes
[09:23] <ripthejacker> it was ctrl+shift+u and then unicode.
[09:23] <ripthejacker> it's not working anymore
[09:24] <jefersen> (varunendra) i'm not able to make much sense of the files, is it ok if i send you a screenshot of each partition file info?
[09:25] <varunendra> jefersen, sure, as long as you mean posting the links in the channel. I'm sure others would be interested too :)
[09:26] <onetinsoldier> ripthejacker: what do you get if you do the following command?  ls -ld $HOME/.compose-cache
[09:26] <chamunks> is there some kind of webgui for ldap I want to kind of lightly explore it to get a feel for what to expect.
[09:27] <jefersen> (varunendra) should i do it for the 4th partition as well?
[09:27] <chamunks> Reading painful manuals on it would mush out whats left of my soul I think.
[09:28] <ripthejacker> onetinsoldier: no such file or directory
[09:28] <varunendra> jefersen, its listed size doesn't look worth much, but see if you can see anything familiar in it.
[09:29] <onetinsoldier> ripthejacker: roger. i don't know. just thought if that directory was there you could try renaming it and then try again
[09:29] <jefersen> (varunendra) it has stuff like system volume information
[09:30] <ripthejacker> onetinsoldier: does the compose key work for you?
[09:30] <varunendra> jefersen, anything familiar? It seems like an ntfs "Recovery Partition" to me.
[09:30] <onetinsoldier> ripthejacker: i've never played with around with unicode or compose keys
[09:30] <ripthejacker> ok
[09:31] <killer> hey, how can i reset libreoffice settings in ubuntu
[09:31] <varunendra> jefersen, your user data is most likely to be found in the 2nd and/or 3rd partitions. They are overlapping, so only one of them should be a correct entry.
[09:32] <jefersen> (varunendra) honestly no idea, but okay
[09:32] <onetinsoldier> ripthejacker: do you have a  /var/cache/libx11/compose/  directory?
[09:32] <unicodesnowman> Hi, I would like to increase the maximum number of open file descriptors in Ubuntu for my Node.js process.
[09:32] <unicodesnowman> My current soft and hard limit is 10240 and I am hitting this limit. I would like to increase it to 20480 at least, however entering higher numbers has no effect.
[09:32] <jefersen> (varunendra) started  doing a deeper search at the moment (by mistake)
[09:32] <ripthejacker> onetinsoldier: there isn't even /var/cache/libx11 dir.
[09:33] <varunendra> jefersen, should be fruitful I hope
[09:33] <unicodesnowman> I'm using the setrlimit call to increase the limits
[09:33] <jefersen> (varunendra) haha man, has this ever happened to you?
[09:33] <onetinsoldier> ripthejacker: roger.
[09:34] <ripthejacker> onetinsoldier:?
[09:34] <varunendra> jefersen, many times on MBR based partitions, but haven't experienced that with GPT partitions. So I am a bit lost too :)
[09:35] <onetinsoldier> ripthejacker: roger just means, affirmative. as in... i hear you
[09:35] <ripthejacker> onetinsoldier: ok
[09:35] <jefersen> (varunendra) oh i see!
[09:36] <onetinsoldier> ripthejacker: you do have the libx11-data package installed i'm sure. you might check that you do. but i would think it's installed
[09:36] <varunendra> onetinsoldier, as in "Roger that captain" :P
[09:36] <ripthejacker> onetinsoldier: Ok i'll look into it.
[09:36] <onetinsoldier> yes varunendra :-)
[09:40] <jefersen> (varunendra) well i'll get back to you in a bit, are you going to be around?
[09:40] <varunendra> can't say how long :)
[09:41] <jefersen> (varunendra) hmm, let me just send you the screenshots of whatever i took before doing the deep search
[09:41] <varunendra> jefersen, if you don'
[09:41] <varunendra> don't get help here, post a thread at ubuntuforums.org and PM me there, jefersen
[09:42] <jefersen> (varunendra) - i think this is the first screen - http://postimg.org/image/57tegtxcv/
[09:42] <jefersen> (varunendra) okay, will do
[09:43] <jefersen> (varunendra) partition 2 - http://postimg.org/image/rdr96qci3/
[09:43] <varunendra> jefersen, that is clearly a linux partition, not windows. Maybe deeper search can give better results
[09:43] <jefersen> (varunendra) hmm alright
[09:44] <varunendra> jefersen, the second image is still opening ;)
[09:44] <cloneG> hello I followed this guide to install and configure bind9 in my server but I cant find how to configure a client...
[09:44] <cloneG> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/dns.html
[09:44] <varunendra> .... and seems useless, jefersen
[09:44] <jefersen> (varunendra) lol
[09:45] <jefersen> (varunendra) guess i'll wait till the deep search is done then
[09:45] <jefersen> (varunendra) do you think it'll be of any use?
[09:46] <killer> hey, how can i get slide pane back libreoffice
[09:46] <varunendra> yup, deeper search option is there for a reason , although nothing is guaranteed :)
[09:46] <jefersen> right, got it
[09:46] <cloneG> it seems to me it is a default ubuntu service am I right?
[09:58] <unicodesnowman> any help?
[09:58] <unicodesnowman> my limits.conf is not working
[09:58] <unicodesnowman> for maximum number of open files
[10:11] <bibi234> I'm currently lookin at a processor description, it says 2 cores and 2,9 GHz, there are also a lot of other information, which ones are the most relevant to compare with other processors?
[10:13] <Capt_JackSparrow> Howdy
[10:13] <varunendra> bibi234, if all the processors to be compared are of same generation, then only benchmarking can tell the real difference. You can find that on the net. And #hardware would be a better place for this question.
[10:13] <nevyn> bibi234: for what workload?
[10:13] <nevyn> bibi234: and what critiera.
[10:14] <nevyn> bibi234: and what criteria rather.
[10:16] <TNTS> Hi, how do I mark a partition as active? I have Ubuntu 13.10 and the partition is an HFS+ partition. I have all the stuff like hfsprogs
[10:16] <bibi234> nevyn: it's for a Java / PHP development machine, with ubuntu, some IDE, web-server.
[10:16] <jjh> server irc.efnet.he
[10:16] <jjh> ugh, sorry.
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> Tu-offtopic
[10:28] <kivigeoff>  /join #tarent
[10:38] <Seveas> 'ello
[10:38] <Seveas> quiet in here today :)
[10:40] <Calinou> Seveas, hi, ask your question
[10:42] <Seveas> Calinou: I don't have one, sorry :)
[10:44] <xcalibur1978> Hi, I have an issue regarding group permissions. Whenever I'm trying to get a directory list from a web application on a group with chmod 664  I got nothing back. I'm guessing the web user which tries to get the list, is not part of the group who has rights in that directory
[10:45] <bekks> xcalibur1978: If you get hat, you should check that to be sure.
[10:45] <xcalibur1978> bekks, good idea, but how ;)
[10:46] <bekks> xcalibur1978: ls -lha
[10:46] <xcalibur1978> ok, I can see apache2 runs as www-data
[10:46] <xcalibur1978> I added the www-data user to the ftp-data group
[10:47] <Seveas> xcalibur1978: groups don't gave a 'chmod 644'. Neither do directories have that mode. What are you actually trying to do?
[10:47] <xcalibur1978> the ftp-data group has read/write rights
[10:47] <bekks> xcalibur1978: What are you really trying to do? Adding ww-data to ftp-data is a bad idea.
[10:49] <xcalibur1978> i have this directory, where i need to have acces to as user (my own user where I login with in ubuntu). I also want to have the ftp-user to have read / write rights. Last but not least i also need to have apache read/write rights.
[10:49] <xcalibur1978> The only difference is, my ubunutu account needs to have delete rights, the others dont
[10:49] <Seveas> xcalibur1978: write rights == delete rights
[10:49] <Seveas> so what you're trying to do is impossible.
[10:49] <xcalibur1978> ok....
[10:50] <xcalibur1978> haha
[10:50] <xcalibur1978> thats new for me ;)
[11:02] <Sir_Leto> I'm having the weirdest problem when ripping CDS
[11:02] <Sir_Leto> I hear static and I can hear the sound of the disc rotating in the audio files
[11:03] <bekks> Sir_Leto: What do you mean by "I hear Static"?
[11:03] <Dudytz> hi all! I have a computer with the Ubuntu Saucy, but, because I use LXC I need to use a patched kernel (via ppa) to turn on all the features of lxc ... I see that the kernel of Trusty Thar is already patched. Question: It's possible to install only the kernel from trusty on a saucy installation? How is the "best" way to do this without "breaks" the apt database?
[11:04] <Sir_Leto> I hear crackling, bekks
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> Dudytz  sounds like Frankenstein Ubuntu to me
[11:04] <hianhif> Hello folks, i've come across a problem i just cant seem to solve. My graphics gets laggy 40-60 seconds after i log in to my desktop. And my FPS in games have dropped dramatically. I have tried serveral different ways of uninstalling / installing new / old GFX drivers. None of which makes a difference. I have tried several of my backups all presenting the same problem (tho they where not there before) Which leads me to conclude that
[11:04] <hianhif> i have somehow "added" the problem by installing something, since restoring my system too an earlier state has no effect on things that was not there before but are there now!  Any advice and or help is appreciated.
[11:05] <bekks> jeferhSo which graphics hardware and which drivers on which Ubuntu do you actually use?
[11:05] <Dudytz> MnkeyDust: LoL ... yes, but it's possible?
[11:09] <greek> Hi. I'd like to play Starcraft 2 on my Ubuntu desktop (12.04 LTS). How can this be achieved?
[11:10] <hianhif> Radeon HD 5800 series and i have tried several different proprietary drivers ( the newest available and old ones which have worked before) i'm on Ubuntu 12.04
[11:10] <MonkeyDust> greek  is it a windows game? have you tried steam? more info please
[11:10] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: is it even a steam game ?
[11:10] <ikonia> MonkeyDust: why are you just randomly pushing steam ???
[11:10] <Ben64> !appdb | greek
[11:10] <greek> MonkeyDust, Starcraft 2? Yeah, Windows. Not steam game
[11:11] <GnuNix> Starcraft 2 will only work on Mac or Windows. Wine might work, but it will be a stretch
[11:11] <ikonia> good lord, can you not try to find out valuable information before pushing random things
[11:11] <Ben64> sc2 worked shortly after release in wine
[11:11] <greek> Ben64, ok thanks will check out this wine
[11:11] <greek> I was thinking of installing Virtualbox etc.
[11:11] <Ben64> vbox is not really good for gaming
[11:13] <bekks> greek: vbox isnt designed to be used for gaming. No virtualization software is.
[11:13] <greek> Ben64, woah Wine looks pretty neat
[11:13] <ikonia> wine is a shambles
[11:13] <greek> Also this: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=20882
[11:13] <greek> Well to be honest I could dual-boot, but I really don't want to go through that whole schlep just to play one game
[11:15] <bekks> greek: well, if you want to game, go through it.
[11:16] <hianhif> Let me try a different way of asking! does anyone know what could make glxgears to drop from 8500+  Frames / 5 sec. too 1700 Frames / 5 sec. 40-60 secs after i log in. If i log out and then back in again i still get the lower FPS, no matter which user.
[11:16] <greek> bekks, you're probably right
[11:16] <GnuNix> Greek: I would dual boot if i was playing games not found natively for Linux. I don't game much, but I'd imagine the experience would be much better on Windows :)
[11:17] <Ben64> hianhif: glxgears is not a benchmark
[11:17] <wica> Hi, I have a running systeem with full enrypted lvm. Is there a way to gek the key?
[11:17] <greek> Man I just wish I could install Windows XP on my USB stick along with Starcraft and just boot off that, leaving my 100% Ubuntu HD untouched.
[11:17] <rijack> Anyone know a good water cooling channel
[11:18] <hianhif> greek, Sc2 runs fine on ubuntu 12.04. As does most games i have tried. You do however need to put in some time to get to know your OS and wine.
[11:18] <bekks> wica: did you lose it?
[11:18] <wica> bekks: I don't remember the correct key :)
[11:18] <bekks> wica: then get your backup;)
[11:19] <wica> bekks: :) Yes that is possible. But this system is still running.
[11:19] <wica> So I guess that is somewhere a file with the key
[11:19] <bekks> wica: there isnt.
[11:20] <wica> bekks: Is there a wa to verify that I have the correct key?
[11:20] <GnuNix> Wica, if it's still running and you have firewire you can do a RAM dump and find it that way. There are a few tools on the net which can do it. Elcomsoft has a few
[11:20] <hianhif> Ben64, And pigs cant fly!
[11:20] <Estragon> hi
[11:20] <hianhif> Ben64, Sorry. that was uncalled for
[11:20] <wica> GnuNix: Thanks, that I was hoping for. I don't think I need firewire, because I still working on the system
[11:21] <wica> And still logged in
[11:21] <Ben64> hianhif: not sure what your point is
[11:24] <hianhif> Ben64, My problem is not related to whether glxgears is a benchmark as far as i know. My problem is that my graphics performance drops drastically about 1 minute after i log in to my desktop.
[11:24] <Ben64> hianhif: but you're basing it on glxgears, which is not valid as a benchmark
[11:28] <hianhif> Ben64, first of, not all problems have a valid benchmark to prove them. Secondly Point taken. And third glxgears is the easiest way for me to present the problem. I am however open to any suggestions of other ways prove my problem, if you think that would help
[11:30] <Ben64> hianhif: maybe you just have a slow gpu?
[11:31] <hianhif> Ben64, The problöems started a few weeks ago. Before that i had no such issues. I play several different games and all games present with the same issue (i mostly play Eve Online if that matters).
[11:33] <bekks> hianhif: Maybe the online games got more complex.
[11:34] <bekks> hianhif: Are the games flash based maybe?
[11:34] <Ben64> radeon 5800 sounds old. probably should be using the open source driver on it
[11:35] <hianhif> bekks, are you trolling? and no. :)
[11:35] <bekks> hianhif: Well, if you consider other asking questions about your problem to be trolling - good luck on solving your issue on your own, I am not going to waste my time with it anymore.
[11:36] <hianhif> Ben64, AMD HD 5850 is not that old. And no i should not use the open source driver if i'm playing 3d games.
[11:38] <hianhif> bekks, Sorry, Was not my intention to be rude. It was an honest question. But ok, No several different games getting more complex all at the same time, including lowered desktop performance sounds really unlikely.
[11:49] <hengky> hi
[11:49] <hengky> anybody can help me
[11:49] <hengky> i have a problem install ubuntu server 12.0.4
[11:49] <hengky> with hardware raid 1
[11:50] <hengky> my server is ibm system x3100 m4
[11:50] <hengky> anybody
[11:50] <gordonjcp> !details | hengky
[11:50] <bekks> hengky: state your issue in one sentence please.
[11:50] <hianhif> hengky, i'd suggest joining the channel #ubuntu-server
[11:51] <Guest84921> \list
[11:53] <hianhif> Asking again "Hello folks, i've come across a problem i just cant seem to solve. My graphics gets laggy 40-60 seconds after i log in to my desktop. And my FPS in games have dropped dramatically. I have tried serveral different ways of uninstalling / installing new / old GFX drivers. None of which makes a difference. I have tried several of my backups all presenting the same problem (tho they where not there before) Which leads me to
[11:53] <hianhif> conclude that i have somehow "added" the problem by installing something, since restoring my system too an earlier state has no effect on things that was not there before but are there now!  Any advice and or help is appreciated. "
[12:00] <Zenger> Hi guys, what is the quickest way to set something up to receive one e-mail ?
[12:01] <Zenger> I tried postfix but it fails to recieve any e-mail . Although when using sendmail from within php it sends the e-mail, but refuses to recieve any.
[12:01] <Zenger> Is there any way to setup a quick mailserver to recieve just one e-mail ?
[12:02] <hianhif> Zenger, From where is this mail? local LAN or WAN?
[12:02] <Zenger> hianhif: internet
[12:02] <onitaL> Hello. I see a bunch of empty .Xauthority. and .goutputstream- files at home. Is it ok to delete them? Thanks
[12:03] <Seveas> onitaL: yes
[12:03] <onitaL> Thx
[12:04] <onitaL> BTW, what are  .goutputstream- files ?
[12:06] <Seveas> Zenger: sudo nc -l -p 25
[12:06] <Seveas> and speak SMTP manually :)
[12:07] <Zenger> Seveas: would it recieve an e-mail ? :D
[12:07] <Zenger> btw I jus realize i'm missing an MX record on my domain
[12:07] <Seveas> Zenger: only if you speak SMTP correctly
[12:08] <hianhif> Zenger, i'm afraid i dont know a quick fix to get a mailserver up and running. I have one. but that bitch took forever to do all the bits the way i wanted. i'd suggest reading up on postfix :)
[12:08] <Zenger> hianhif: yeah, I'm sturgglin with postfix too
[12:09] <Zenger> Seveas: I mean I need to recieve an e-mail from outside, and I have no control on that e-mail what so ever
[12:10] <Zenger> Seveas: besides I need to "recieve" an e-mail not "send" an e-mail
[12:10] <Ben64> Seveas told you a method
[12:10] <hianhif> Zenger,  do you have control over the domain that the mail is beeing sent too?
[12:10] <Seveas> Zenger: nc -l listens on a socket, you need to pretend to be an smtp daemon
[12:11] <Zenger> Seveas: hm
[12:11] <Ben64> it'd be pretty easy, lots of "250 OK" s
[12:11] <Zenger> Seveas: lemme google a little , maybe I'll figure this on my own
[12:12] <Seveas> Ben64: 220 OK / 250 OK / 250 OK / 354 OK / 250 OK / 221 OK :)
[12:12] <Seveas> hmm, that's missing a 250 OK for EHLO ;)
[12:13] <Ben64> http://www.tcpipguide.com/free/t_SMTPMailTransactionProcess-3.htm
[12:13] <Ben64> good explanation of the process
[12:13] <Seveas> I just tried it out with swaks in another terminal
[12:14] <Seveas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6571969/
[12:14] <frog__> i wrote everyhing on the picture: http://snag.gy/zxbii.jpg
[12:15] <Kurvivor> Hello! i am having troubles with upgrading to 13.10. here are the details of a problem -  http://askubuntu.com/questions/390442/what-should-i-do-to-complete-ubuntu-upgrade Please advice what to do
[12:16] <Zenger> Seveas: aren't you sending e-mail in this example ?
[12:19] <Zenger> There doesn't seem to be a way to recieve e-mails using netcat, only sending them :|
[12:19] <MrmacHD> hi all
[12:19] <MrmacHD> which one is the fastest most suitable desktop environment for ubuntu 12.04 on a pentium 4?
[12:19] <MrmacHD> xfce or enlightenment?
[12:19] <Zenger> MrmacHD: I'd opt for LMDE
[12:19] <gordonjcp> Zenger: you could listen on port 25
[12:20] <MrmacHD> ohh thats a new one
[12:20] <gordonjcp> MrmacHD: Unity
[12:20] <MrmacHD> let me see
[12:20] <gordonjcp> MrmacHD: how much memory have you got?
[12:20] <MrmacHD> 512mb
[12:20] <MrmacHD> unity is slow as slug
[12:20] <gordonjcp> MrmacHD: put some more in
[12:20] <Zenger> MrmacHD: LMDE claims to run even on 128mb
[12:21] <MrmacHD> how well does it run though?
[12:21] <gordonjcp> MrmacHD: I'm running Unity on a P4 with 1GB, it's faster than XFCE on the same hardware
[12:21] <Zenger> MrmacHD: I've been using it on a 512mb in a school project and I'm very happy with it
[12:21] <MrmacHD> xp was pretty darn fast
[12:21] <ubuntu> Oh no
[12:21] <MrmacHD> unity made me wanna go back to xp, that fast it was!
[12:21] <MrmacHD> is LMDE the one mint uses?
[12:22] <Zenger>  MrmacHD no
[12:22] <gordonjcp> MrmacHD: if you haven't got OpenGL, XFCE will be faster.  If you *do*, and most machines do, XFCE will be slower
[12:22] <gordonjcp> MrmacHD: Mint uses the reanimated corpse of Gnome 2
[12:22] <Zenger> and a fork of Gnome 3
[12:22] <gordonjcp> because they're stuck in the past
[12:22] <k1l> !lubuntu | MrmacHD
[12:22] <Zenger> duh
[12:22] <gordonjcp> LXDE is unusably buggy
[12:22] <MrmacHD> wait
[12:22] <k1l> MrmacHD: if you want some lightweight go with lubuntu
[12:23] <MrmacHD> i already have ubuntu 12.04.3
[12:23] <MrmacHD> k1l:
[12:23] <gordonjcp> it's fine if you never want to change the size of a window, or use a web browser
[12:23] <Zenger> MrmacHD: install lubuntu-desktop
[12:23] <k1l> MrmacHD: then install "lubuntu-desktop"
[12:23] <MrmacHD> oh
[12:23] <gordonjcp> Firefox consistently crashes LXDE when a download finishes and it makes the taskbar thing flash
[12:24] <MrmacHD> chrome currently crashes consistently under unity
[12:24] <gordonjcp> the LXDE devs know about this and can reproduce it, but either don't care to or don't know how to fix it
[12:24] <MrmacHD> ok so lubuntu-desktop then?
[12:24] <gordonjcp> MrmacHD: chrome is horrible though
[12:24] <MrmacHD> but that is enlightenment
[12:24] <gordonjcp> MrmacHD: yes, if you don't plan on using a browser
[12:24] <Zenger> MrmacHD: don't use Chrome if you have a slow video card, it uses 3d to render the GUI
[12:24] <MrmacHD> oh
[12:24] <MrmacHD> crap
[12:24] <k1l> gordonjcp: come on
[12:24] <MrmacHD> any good webkit based browser for linux?
[12:24] <k1l> MrmacHD: lubuntu works just fine for a lot of users
[12:24] <k1l> MrmacHD: just test it yourself
[12:25] <Zenger> MrmacHD: why not firefox ?
[12:25] <MrmacHD> lubuntu uses enlightenment anyway, so why should i go download a new distro?
[12:25] <Zenger> MrmacHD: trust me it works 10 times faster on a old pc
[12:25] <gordonjcp> MrmacHD: nope, there are no good webkit browsers for any OS
[12:25] <MrmacHD> firefox was good!
[12:25] <Zenger> MrmacHD: you don't, you can use your current Ubuntu installation and just replace the DE with LMDE
[12:25] <k1l> MrmacHD: you can install the lubuntu package, which installs the needed packages and no everything else
[12:26] <MrmacHD> oh ok
[12:26] <MrmacHD> so lmde or lubuntu?
[12:26] <MrmacHD> final call
[12:26] <Zenger> same thing jesus
[12:26] <Zenger> just install lmde on your current ubuntu installation
[12:26] <k1l> MrmacHD: then you can switch on login screen, and if you dont like it just remove it and its a standard ubuntu again
[12:26] <Zenger> http://askubuntu.com/questions/243318/how-to-install-lubuntu-desktop-environment-and-only-the-desktop-environment
[12:26] <MrmacHD> oh ok
[12:28] <bekks> MrmacHD: whats "lmde"?
[12:28] <MrmacHD> nah
[12:28] <Zenger> linux mint debian edition
[12:28] <MrmacHD> I wonder, was I better off with mint?
[12:28] <MrmacHD> yeah
[12:28] <Hassen> what's the ubuntu off topic chan exact chan name?
[12:28] <bekks> Doesnt matter in an Ubuntu channel.
[12:28] <k1l> !ot | Hassen
[12:28] <Hassen> k1l, thanks
[12:29] <k1l> MrmacHD: if you ask in a ubuntu channe, of course use ubuntu :)
[12:29] <sandhu> hi sir....i just want to update my linux to new version
[12:29] <MrmacHD> yes, bad place to ask that. is mint generally considered faster or ubuntu?
[12:29] <k1l> MrmacHD: no
[12:29] <MrmacHD> ok then
[12:29] <bekks> MrmacHD: It is considered unsupported in here.
[12:29] <MrmacHD> lode it is!
[12:29] <k1l> MrmacHD: for lightweight go with lubuntu
[12:30] <MrmacHD> mint copied xp too much, i don't like that
[12:30] <k1l> sandhu: what does "lsb_release -r" give you?
[12:30] <sandhu> i didt get u sir
[12:31] <MonkeyDust> sandhu  what linux ditro are you running?
[12:31] <k1l> sandhu: opes a terminal, type "lsb_release -r" in it and show the result in here, please
[12:31] <k1l> *open
[12:31] <sandhu> no sir ubuntu 10.10
[12:31] <MonkeyDust> !eolupgrade | sandhu
[12:31] <k1l> oh well. with ubuntu 10.10 you are better off with a new install from 12.04 or 13.10
[12:32] <fartface> Hey!  I'm trying to boot up a 2011 mac mini to run ubuntu--I've installed rEFInd, I can select to boot from USB, the EFI menu selection comes up, but whether I choose TRY or INSTALL, the screen goes black (still "active", but black) and hangs.  Any ideas?
[12:33] <MrmacHD> is gnome 3 also gpu dependant?
[12:33] <MrmacHD> the tablet like look
[12:33] <k1l> MrmacHD: yes it needs 3d
[12:33] <MrmacHD> ah
[12:34] <gordonjcp> MrmacHD: every "modern" WM requires OpenGL
[12:34] <gordonjcp> MrmacHD: the ones that don't all rely on software rendering
[12:34] <MrmacHD> i have an ati in there, but its so old and weak, i dunno
[12:34] <MrmacHD> used to play cs and halo on it.
[12:34] <gordonjcp> MrmacHD: it's faster than software rendering
[12:34] <MrmacHD> i know
[12:35] <gordonjcp> MrmacHD: stuff like LXDE is painfully slow on old hardware with slow graphics cards
[12:35] <k1l> MrmacHD: i suggest you give lubuntu a go and test it. you are making way to much concerns. if lubuntu doesnt suit you you can start with concerns again :)
[12:35] <gordonjcp> frankly these days if you stick a couple gig of RAM in and a cheap NVidia card, anything down to a P3 will run normal Ubuntu just fine
[12:35] <k1l> gordonjcp: come on, as if modern gnome3 base desktops are faster with a pentium 4 than lxde m(
[12:35] <MrmacHD> k1l: I might, because I cannot find good resources regarding lmde, linux mint debian edition.
[12:36] <k1l> MrmacHD: that is not even considered lightweight
[12:36] <gordonjcp> k1l: on one of my machines I can see LXDE draw each window, primitive by primitive
[12:36] <MrmacHD> k1l: what
[12:37] <MrmacHD> ah lmde
[12:37] <k1l> MrmacHD: you are mixing up lmde, lxde and other stuff. just give lubuntu a try.
[12:37] <MrmacHD> k1l: Zenger says its better than lxde or xfce
[12:37] <Zenger> MrmacHD: I didn't say that
[12:37] <gordonjcp> Mint will be great once they start shipping with Unity as the default DE
[12:37] <MrmacHD> I'm more confused than minutes ago
[12:37] <k1l> MrmacHD: nope. not for lightweight, lmde is just a xp-like desktop. and its not supported by ubuntu
[12:37] <MrmacHD> Zenger: what is your opinion on them then?
[12:38] <onitaL> Can I assume LTS releases are faster then Debian stable releases?
[12:38] <onitaL> I mean, are they released more often?
[12:38] <Zenger> MrmacHD: LMDE - is a debian distro, keep that in mind, it's fast but has a lot of drawbacks
[12:38] <k1l> onitaL: faster is not very objective
[12:38] <Zenger> MrmacHD: LXDE - is faster the fastest DE i know
[12:38] <k1l> onitaL: a LTS ubuntu comes every 2 years. but have 5 years support
[12:38] <MrmacHD> Zenger: yes, I hate the work I need to put into debian.
[12:38] <MrmacHD> hence ubuntu
[12:38] <Zenger> MrmacHD: then use LXDE (Lubuntu)
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> onitaL  LTS is released every 2 years, next in April 2014
[12:39] <Zenger> don't believe what gordonjcp is telling you just install and try it, you'll see for yourself
[12:39] <MrmacHD> wait lxde is the same as lubuntu?
[12:39] <Zenger> LXDE is the DE Lubuntu is just ubuntu with the LXDE pre-installed
[12:39] <MrmacHD> I was trying to choose one for the past 5 min.
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> MrmacHD  lubuntu is ubuntu with lxde
[12:39] <gordonjcp> MrmacHD: LXDE is the desktop environment that Lubuntu uses by default
[12:39] <k1l> MrmacHD: lubuntu uses LXDE, yes. that is why that L is coming to ubuntu
[12:39] <MrmacHD> ok
[12:40] <MrmacHD> so can I install lxde on my ubuntu then remove unity?
[12:40] <k1l> MrmacHD: just install lubuntu-desktop. gogogogogo :)
[12:40] <MrmacHD> as if I had lubuntu to begin with?
[12:40] <MrmacHD> okok
[12:40] <Zenger> LMDE - Linux Mint Debian Edition - fast but pain in the ass, LXDE - Fast small DE, Lubuntu - Ubuntu with LXDE installed.
[12:40] <Zenger> simple enough
[12:40] <MrmacHD> might be worth to do a who new lubuntu tonight.
[12:41] <MrmacHD> no
[12:41] <onitaL> Thanks guys. Next question: Could an Ubuntu LST release have newer software than a stable Debian release? or about the same?
[12:41] <MrmacHD> I burned ubuntu into an 800mb CD, not worth getting to the starting point again.
[12:41] <MrmacHD> lxde it is then. done.
[12:42] <MrmacHD> thanks all Zenger, k1l and the enthusiastic gordonjcp
[12:42] <MrmacHD> :D
[12:42] <Zenger> MrmacHD: the best part of lubuntu is that it will drag a lot of software that is very lightweight
[12:42] <BluesKaj> hiyas all
[12:42] <Zenger> MrmacHD: speeeeeed!
[12:42] <MrmacHD> I don't want abiword
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> onitaL  ubuntu does not alwys use the !latest software
[12:43] <MrmacHD> nor ubuntu's libre, but ubuntu generally comes with some useful stuff I like to keep.
[12:43] <onitaL> MonkeyDust, I understand that, and that's for the best
[12:43] <Zenger> MrmacHD: you can replace it anytime you want, it's just ubuntu duh
[12:43] <MrmacHD> well I remove things from what I have
[12:43] <MrmacHD> how big is the lubuntu release on a CD?
[12:44] <Zenger> MrmacHD: ~700 mb
[12:44] <Zenger> but you don't need that, just install the damn package will ya
[12:44] <MrmacHD> not going to happen
[12:45] <MrmacHD> 729
[12:45] <MrmacHD> larger than ubuntu
[12:45] <MrmacHD> 706 is ubuntu CD
[12:45] <onitaL> I think I've sorted my thoughts. Thanks guys
[12:45] <Wizard> Hi.
[12:45] <MrmacHD> and I wasted a 800mb CD for it
[12:45] <gordonjcp> MrmacHD: CD?
[12:45] <MrmacHD> just lxde and lets see how that goes
[12:45] <MrmacHD> had to burn that crap
[12:45] <gordonjcp> people still use CDs?
[12:45] <MrmacHD> 21st century
[12:46] <jefersen> (varunendra) i found more partitions after the deep search
[12:46] <Zenger> when you have an old pc that doesn't boot usb you'll use a cd )
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> MrmacHD  open a terminal and type    apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[12:46] <gordonjcp> why not use a USB stick?
[12:46]  * Wizard uses, they still sell music on them.
[12:46] <MrmacHD> I do, because my single 16GB usb is bootable for something else.
[12:46] <gordonjcp> Zenger: everything boots USB
[12:46] <gordonjcp> right back to PII
[12:46] <mamed> hello guys. i want to install ubuntu 13.04 inside windows but the cd does not contain the windows installer . i read that i can download it from net but it will also download the installation files . does it make sense i have the cd .
[12:46] <MrmacHD> no it has 5 usb inputs
[12:46] <MrmacHD> but I'm lacking usb sticks
[12:46] <gordonjcp> Zenger: if it doesn't, it's probably too weird to bother with
[12:46] <Zenger> gordonjcp: come say that to my school pc's with borken usb's
[12:46] <Zenger> broken*
[12:47] <Wizard> gordonjcp: My powerbook G4 doesn't
[12:47] <MrmacHD> thats true, most break too often
[12:47] <gordonjcp> I don't think I've even seen a CD for sale for a decade
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> MrmacHD  you don't need all that, simply install lubuntu-desktop
[12:47] <bekks> mamed: It would make more sense to install virtualbox and set up an Ubuntu VM.
[12:47] <gordonjcp> wouldn't know where to look for blank CDs
[12:47] <MrmacHD> yep MonkeyDust its what I'm going to do
[12:47] <MrmacHD> gordonjcp: past
[12:47] <Zenger> mamed: would you like to install it on a CD or on a USB stick ?
[12:47] <mamed> bekks, you are right but i am planning to try the wayland on my ati card
[12:47] <gordonjcp> MrmacHD: my time machine is broken
[12:47] <Zenger> oh
[12:47] <MrmacHD> :D
[12:48] <gordonjcp> MrmacHD: ironically enough I have boxes and boxes of DSDD floppies
[12:48] <Zenger> mamed: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer
[12:48] <mamed> just wubi will create a 20 gb harddisk space and install ubunut but downloading 500 mb files is too much for me
[12:48] <bekks> mamed: then you should setup a dualboot.
[12:48] <gordonjcp> MrmacHD: I have more PCs with working floppy drives, than with working CD drives
[12:48] <MrmacHD> gordonjcp: I have duke nukem on 12 floppies still!
[12:48] <mamed> bekks, the problem is wubi will download the setup files but i have a boot cd
[12:48] <MrmacHD> and doom on 4 i think
[12:48] <gordonjcp> MrmacHD: I work with a lot of old equipment that loads <stuff> off floppies
[12:49] <mamed> doesnot wubi use the cd to install the files?
[12:49] <bekks> mamed: Then setup a dualboot.
[12:49] <gordonjcp> mamed: wubi is dead
[12:49] <gordonjcp> mamed: never, ever use wubi
[12:49] <mamed> oh really?
[12:49] <mamed> ok i wont use it
[12:49] <MrmacHD> ok i got to go but will come back in 8-10 hours to report back success/failures. thanks again!
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> mamed  wubi is for testing purposes, not for production and cannot be upgraded
[12:49] <Mark_de_J> !nl
[12:49] <sl1ck> is there any way to change drive letter under ubuntu (ntfs) ?
[12:50] <bekks> sl1ck: Ubuntu doesnt use drive letters.
[12:50] <varunendra> jefersen, got your files listed too?
[12:50] <jefersen> (varunendra) theres many partitions, dont know which one to open
[12:51] <bekks> sl1ck: and the information which drive letter is assign isnt stored on the filesystem, but in the windows OS.
[12:51] <sl1ck> bekks: i know, and it's not an answer to my question
[12:51] <mamed> Zenger, the link you gave me installs the wubi
[12:51] <sl1ck> understood
[12:51] <sl1ck> thanks
[12:51] <varunendra> jefersen, whichever seems to be large enough, or simply try to list each one, one-by-one. The "P" switch is just a verification measure, it doesn't make any changes.
[12:52] <Kurvivor> what is keyserver for linux mint? I want to install nemo instead of nautilus, and it is in there
[12:52] <Kurvivor> in mint, that is
[12:52] <bekks> !mint | Kurvivor
[12:53] <Zenger> mamed: You could use pendrivelinux or unetbootin to install it on USB
[12:53] <sl1ck> bekks: any gui app to help me copy a partition from one (physical) hdd to another?
[12:53] <Kurvivor> ok
[12:53] <bekks> sl1ck: gparted or clonezilla.
[12:54] <sl1ck> thanks again!
[12:56] <mamed> hm thanks Zenger
[12:57] <sandhu> which is the best version of ubuntu
[12:58] <jefersen> (varunendra) oh well, this is going to take a while. lol, i'll get back to you
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> Sandhu: there is no best
[12:58] <sandhu> what no gud
[12:58] <varunendra> sandhu, whichever plays best with your hardware, and feels comfortable :)
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> Sandhu: depends what you like. 12.04 is LTS too so is supported a lot longer than the others. (Lubuntu 12.04 is not LTS)
[12:59] <grahamsavage> hey.. how can i sort by date and limit to 10 files when using ls?
[12:59] <sandhu> rt nw i hve 10.10
[12:59] <k1l> sandhu: go with ubuntu 12.04.3
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> sandhu: your question is as intelligent as asking "what is the best drink". There is no single best. Its preposterous
[13:00] <jefersen> (varunendra) is there anything that can make this any easier?
[13:00] <sandhu> hahaha but  how to update it ...to 12.04.3
[13:00] <k1l> sandhu: a new install is way faster
[13:00] <sandhu> but how
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> Sandhu: maverick is dead. I would install Precise and enjoy long support. You can also upgrade to 14.04 from 12.4 in one jump as it is LTS to LTS
[13:01] <k1l> sandhu: you need to make 10.10->11.04->11.10->12.04
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> sandhu  first upgrade to a supported release, then ask again
[13:01] <varunendra> jefersen, how many partitions you are seeing now? Just one glance at their contents should give an idea which is the one we are interested in.
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> sandhu: i would clean install then restore user data from backup
[13:01] <k1l> sandhu: if you want to stay longer on one release go for LTS at the beginning
[13:12] <hjud> Hi. What does this command do : cp /directory1/. /directory2    What does the "." mean?
[13:13] <bekks> hjud: . designates the current directory.
[13:13] <loongson> 同志们，嫦娥三号已经成功降落到月球上了！
[13:14] <hjud> bekks: so "/directory1" is useless?
[13:14] <k1l> !ot | loongson
[13:14] <bekks> hjud: No. /. at the end is useless
[13:15] <cfhowlett> !cn|loongson,
[13:16] <hjud> bekks: I understand better now. Is there an option to continue to copy when there are files which can't be copied?
[13:17] <asad2005> Cin somone help resolve this conky problem, window doesnot display, the same conkyrc i was using and was ok before i fresh install ubuntu 13.10
[13:17] <asad2005> *Can
[13:17] <bekks> hjud: Not using cp, rsync does that automatically.
[13:17] <Mark_de_J> .
[13:17] <Mark_de_J> .
[13:17] <Mark_de_J> .
[13:17] <FloodBot1> Mark_de_J: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:17] <Mark_de_J> .
[13:17] <Mark_de_J> .
[13:17] <Mark_de_J> .
[13:17] <FloodBot1> Mark_de_J: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:18] <hjud> bekks, thks.
[13:18] <MonkeyDust> Mark_de_J  gefdraag je of ga naar een ander kanaal
[13:18] <Mark_de_J> Heb geen bekks. ;)
[13:18] <Mark_de_J> MonkeyDust, stfu?
[13:19] <Mark_de_J> hjud, gay!
[13:19] <Myrtti> Mark_de_J: can you please behave?
[13:19] <Mark_de_J> Myrtti, get a life.
[13:19] <Myrtti> 'ok'
[13:20] <FloodBot1> Mark_de_J: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:21] <Mark_de_J> Going fuck myself
[13:22] <rgpewfdcjwqkldaw> eowfl;awef
[13:22] <rgpewfdcjwqkldaw> uriwfkawefaw
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> Oh jees looks like its going to be a long day
[13:23] <BluesKaj> hehr=e, almost a full moon I think
[13:23] <unknwn_> Mark_de_J bekkie dicht
[13:28] <cfhowlett> ActionParsnip, prime example of why I could never be a mod; I'd need script to crawl through the internetz and force choke the stupid out of peopel
[13:30] <unknwn_> sometimes i just feel ashamed for people out of my country :(
[13:30] <gordonjcp> unknwn_: hm?
[13:31] <unknwn_> Mark_de_J
[13:31] <unknwn_> the guy who was ranting above
[13:31] <gordonjcp> oh
[13:35] <jennie> what is this error I am getting ? and how to resolve it ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6572314/
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> jennie  guess it's no error, just a warning of some kind
[13:38] <varunendra> jennie, I don't see any errors. Just one warning and warnings are usually just notifications, usually ignorable.
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> jennie  type    apt-cache show lsb    for more information on lsb
[13:39] <Starvisitor> Hello
[13:40] <Starvisitor> I was wondering if there was a way to tell what the latest binary ati driver thats provided with ubuntu 13.10 by default
[13:40] <jennie> MonkeyDust, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6572328/
[13:41] <Starvisitor> Is there a way to see what version of binary ati driver ubuntu ships with?
[13:43] <randomcpp> are ubuntu and launchpad servers down?
[13:44] <william_> hello
[13:45] <Starvisitor> Is there a way to see what version of binary ati driver ubuntu ships with?
[13:45] <BluesKaj> Starvisitor, Radeon ?
[13:45] <william_> i need help with ts3
[13:45] <Starvisitor> BluesKaj, Radeon hd 7700
[13:46] <Starvisitor> BluesKaj, I want to know if ubuntu has the beta drivers
[13:46] <Starvisitor> I tryed the beta driver on opensuse and they are amazing
[13:46] <Starvisitor> but they were also very easy to install on opensuse. Just one click RPM.
[13:47] <william_> can any  one help  me with teamspeak 3
[13:47] <Starvisitor> i would switch to ubuntu
[13:47] <Starvisitor> but i dont know if they have a deb of the latest drivers
[13:47] <alexGla> Starvisitor, why u need beta-drivers?
[13:48] <Starvisitor> alexGla, the ati beta drivers have amazing performance boost and im playing steam games
[13:48] <BluesKaj> Starvisitor, afaik the xserver-xorg-video-radeon is the default driver, look for additional drivers in the software cebter
[13:48] <BluesKaj> err center
[13:48] <Starvisitor> i know how to find the drivers
[13:48] <Starvisitor> i just dont know what version they are
[13:48] <william_> so no one can help me then
[13:49] <gordonjcp> !anyone | william_
[13:49] <BluesKaj> beta drivers would proibly be in a ppa on launchpad , Starvisitor
[13:50] <william_> who knows how to install teamspeak 3 on unbuntu
[13:51] <william_> i did the terminal  CD Desktop
[13:51] <william_> then sh TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_amd64-3.0.13.1.run
[13:51] <Starvisitor> the thing is I have no way of telling what version the driver is
[13:52] <william_> and install  but it will not  run
[13:54] <william_> still no one  can  help yet
[13:54] <william_> ...
[13:55] <william_> !anyone | william_
[13:57] <william_> ..........
[13:57] <william_> does anybody  use teamspeak3
[13:59] <xtriz> how can i remap keys ?
[14:01] <newdork> Is anyone having issues with Flash recently?
[14:01] <xtriz> newdork, no not me
[14:01] <newdork> I think there was an error during an update and now I'm stuck with no flash and can't reinstall
[14:03] <imghost> newdork: whats the output of dpkg -l | grep flashplugin-installer
[14:03] <OerHeks> newdork, heard this before here, use chrome :-)
[14:06] <asad2005> Can somone help resolve this conky problem, window doesnot display, the same conkyrc i was using and was ok before i fresh install ubuntu 13.10
[14:07] <OerHeks> asad2005, is the conckyrc set as executable +x ?
[14:11] <asad2005> OerHeks: Not sure
[14:12] <asad2005> OerHeks: i chmod +x conkyrc file still same
[14:15] <randomcpp> are ubuntu and launchpad servers down?
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> randomcpp  no
[14:16] <OerHeks> randomcpp, nope
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> randomcpp  so it's you :)
[14:17] <randomcpp> D:
[14:17] <OerHeks> asad2005, post your conkyrc op paste.ubuntu.com and we'll take a look
[14:19] <ouders> Hello World!
[14:20] <OerHeks> hi ouders
[14:20] <gazelle> running no machine headless  on AWS EC2 ubuntu 13.10,  if i want xfce instead of gnome what do i change in this sentence  $ DISPLAY=:0 /etc/X11/Xsession gnome-session &
[14:20] <ouders> Where can I post a question about the md5hash failure of my freshly downloaded Saucy Salamander image?
[14:21] <tafkab76> Hi! I have a problem mith an IDE Harddisk. It is properly recognized in the BIOS, but not by GParted. I already tried some tools like chkdsk, bootrec, dd, but nothing worked
[14:22] <ouders> Hi Tafkab76 have you tried if lsblk or testdisk recognize the disk?
[14:22] <OerHeks> gazelle, i think "xfce4-session"
[14:22] <bekks> if lsblk doesnt show it, no other tool will.
[14:22] <gazelle> thanks OerHeks
[14:22] <asad2005> OerHeks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6572562/
[14:23] <OerHeks> else xfce-session
[14:23] <OerHeks> asad2005, so what error do you get when you start conky from terminal?
[14:24] <jaip> which one do you guys prefer when you code? vim vs. emacs
[14:25] <asad2005> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6572578/
[14:25] <tafkab76> @ouders: no, just fdisk, which didn´t help. I will try those tools. I also stumble about a tool called dban
[14:25] <asad2005> OerHeks: Conky: desktop window (2400006) is subwindow of root window (2db)
[14:27] <tafkab76> lsblk shows sr0 (probably the dvd drive) and loop0?
[14:28] <Guest48876> Hi, I have a large folder with a huge amount of subfolders on a ext4-partition. I want to move the whole directory to a Windows machine. How can I list all invaild file names for NTFS?
[14:28] <nikolaaa1> Hello
[14:28] <nikolaaa1> I'm having wine problems.
[14:28] <nikolaaa1> uTorrent wont work on wine.
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> nikolaaa1  try deluge, from the software center
[14:29] <OerHeks> asad2005, not sure what causes that error
[14:29] <nikolaaa1> Ok thanks Monkey!
[14:29] <Guest48876> someone?
[14:29] <nikolaaa1> Is there a possible way to get back to gnome-2?
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> nikolaaa1  why do you use some many windows programs in ubuntu?
[14:30] <nikolaaa1> Monkey, not sure, maybe cause they are much more better.
[14:30] <ouders> Anyone a suggestion why my md5hash check fails after multiple tries of downloading it from cd.image.ubuntu.com?
[14:30] <randomcpp> that's funny.. I can access ubuntu.com and launchpad.net with a proxy but not with direct connection
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> nikolaaa1  there's fallback, or ubuntu classic, that looks like gnome2
[14:30] <nikolaaa1> So you cant reinstall gnome-2 in terminal or something?
[14:31] <ouders> typo: cd.image was cdimage though
[14:32] <OerHeks> ouders, try to download the official torrent, http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[14:32] <pac1> we're back  64 bits this time...
[14:32] <ouders> @OerHeks thanks i will try it straight away now
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> nikolaaa1  "For  GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages  will place entries in the Sessions dropdown."
[14:32] <tafkab76_> sorry, my notebook ran out of battery.
[14:32] <nikolaaa1> ok.
[14:33] <tafkab76_> I guess loop= is not my HD?
[14:33] <tafkab76_> loop0
[14:33] <foofoobar> Hi. I'm on 12.04. Is there a way to upgrade directly to 13.10 or do I have to do it step by step (12.04 -> 12.10 -> 13.04 -> 13.10) ?
[14:34] <apt-get_install> I have a large folder with a huge amount of subfolders on a ext4-partition. I want to move the whole directory to a Windows machine. How can I list all invaild file names for NTFS?
[14:35] <OerHeks> apt-get_install, maybe this answer is any help > http://superuser.com/questions/280299/script-to-convert-ext4-filenames-to-ntfs
[14:35] <nikolaaa1> how to run jar files?
[14:35] <nikolaaa1> I installed java.
[14:35] <nikolaaa1> java -jar?
[14:36] <nikolaaa1> ??
[14:36] <OerHeks> java -jar - <filename > .jar
[14:37] <OerHeks> that was easy to find, basic stuff
[14:37] <nikolaaa1> Thanks.
[14:37] <nikolaaa1> Debian deleted my whole hard drive ._.
[14:37] <nikolaaa1> i promise i'll never install it again.
[14:37] <nikolaaa1> :3
[14:38] <nikolaaa1> Debian is evil
[14:38] <jaip> ...
[14:39] <apt-get_install> OerHeks: thanks, but i only want to list them
[14:41] <benishor> hello. I'm having a very annoying problem with 13.10 audio. I get some background noise whenever I attempt to play streamed audio
[14:41] <OerHeks> apt-get_install, i am not sure how, if you don't find an answer here, try #bash channel too
[14:41] <benishor> the stream gets played but it's filled with noise
[14:41] <benishor> anybody else ran into that?
[14:42] <apt-get_install> OerHeks: i might found an answer in an other channel
[14:42] <apt-get_install> thanks anyway
[14:42] <OerHeks> oke, have fun :-)
[14:43] <benishor> my card is Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: VT1708S Analog [VT1708S Analog]
[14:43] <benishor> can someone please help?
[14:47] <OerHeks> benishor, there is a sound problem page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure and more help http://askubuntu.com/questions/64184/noise-problems-when-playing-any-sound-on-laptops-or-when-using-any-sound-apps
[14:47] <OerHeks> sound always works fine here
[14:48] <benishor> OerHeks: thank you for the hints
[14:56] <mah454> the koding.com is opensource project ?
[14:58] <randomcpp> I still can't connect to ubuntu servers :/ any idea?
[14:59] <OerHeks> mah454, if their coding is opensource, yes, it is just a collaboration service
[14:59] <OerHeks> as far as i can read
[14:59] <yeats> randomcpp: can you get to 91.189.94.156?
[14:59] <mah454> OerHeks: How can download this ? I need create local cloud coding project .
[15:00] <randomcpp> yeats, yes
[15:00] <yeats> randomcpp: then it's a DNS issu
[15:00] <yeats> e
[15:00] <OerHeks> mah454, not, it is just a service. there are other cloud ways, like opencloud, to host it yourself
[15:01] <randomcpp> yeats, who should I blame?
[15:01] <kader> ????
[15:02] <yeats> randomcpp: check your DNS settings - you might try changing your DNS servers to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
[15:02] <randomcpp> well I can ping 91.189.94.156 but I cannot load this address in browsers, it redirects to www.ubuntu.com
[15:02] <asad2005> Where can i found a default conkyrc that i can use and modify for ubuntu 13.10
[15:03] <BluesKaj> randomcpp, that's IP for ubuntu.com
[15:04] <BluesKaj> randomcpp, that's normal .don't see what dns has to do with it if he can load ubuntu.com
[15:04] <BluesKaj> you rather :)
[15:04] <OerHeks> asad2005, 2250 pages with conky examples > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=281865&page=2250
[15:05] <OerHeks> biggest tread it hink
[15:05] <OerHeks> * i think
[15:06] <BluesKaj> randomcpp, are saying you can't reach the repositories when updating / upgrading with apt-get?
[15:06] <OerHeks> asad2005, else there is a conkymanager >> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/07/conky-manager-gui-for-managing-conky.html
[15:06] <randomgc> BluesKaj, I couldn't reach ubuntu servers at all
[15:07] <randomgc> BluesKaj, yeats changing dns servers in router config did the trick
[15:07] <randomgc> now I can access ubuntu servers
[15:07] <randomgc> that's strange though
[15:08] <randomgc> until yesterday everything worked flawlessly..
[15:08] <yeats> randomgc: bad dns is not uncommon at all - it's should work now
[15:09] <BluesKaj> randomgc, run sudo apt-get update ..see what happens
[15:10] <randomgc> BluesKaj, everything works now..
[15:10] <BluesKaj> randomgc, ok
[15:10] <ouders> @OerHeks Yes, downloaded tusing the .torrent and that went very well. Is the .iso itself compromized?
[15:11] <wiehan> what does the "portthru" under my wireless network mean?
[15:11] <BluesKaj> randomgc, you should thank yeats :)
[15:11] <wiehan> instead of having a wifi signal strength next to it it has 2 pc screens
[15:11] <randomgc> thanks yeats :) I think I have to learn more about dns servers :/
[15:13] <OerHeks> ouders, not sure, it sounds like the last packet never arrives. seen this before.
[15:13] <BluesKaj> opendns is also good dns service , prefer it to google
[15:14] <randomgc> previously dns servers were automatically chosen by the modem/router
[15:16] <stevenliu> hello
[15:18] <william_> does any one use virtual box here
[15:18] <BluesKaj> randomgc, yes unless you have the manual option , some older router modems don't
[15:19] <stevenliu> hello
[15:19] <onetinsoldier> hi
[15:19] <william_> hello Steven
[15:19] <BluesKaj> william_, I tried it for a while , not my cuppa tea , prefer to dual boot
[15:20] <william_> lol well blue i cant get teamspeak 3 to run on my ubuntu
[15:21] <darnell82> Just trying to figure out if when installing ubuntu I wrote over my windows files. How can I check?
[15:21] <amireldor> How do I configure the top/left corner to initiate a 'Super+W' on Unity (12.04)?
[15:22] <amireldor> darnell82, there's a program called `gparted` which visually shows you your partition. You can try looking for your windows partition there
[15:23] <william_> is any one good with virtual box or teamspeak 3
[15:23] <ikonia> william_: just ask the question as you can't really be "good" with team speak
[15:24] <william_> well installing on ubuntu  ikonia
[15:25] <onetinsoldier> are you getting an error trying to install it or something?
[15:25] <william_> will not run
[15:25] <BluesKaj> wlli do you have both client and server installed ?
[15:26] <BluesKaj> william_,^
[15:26] <darnell82> amireldor, where do I find the gparted program?
[15:26] <william_> no
[15:26] <william_> client
[15:27] <BluesKaj> william_, you should have both for 2 way communication afaik
[15:27] <william_> i did terminal CD desktop      sh *ts3*
[15:27] <amireldor> darnell82, open the software center and search for `gparted`; if you didn't change your launcher icons on the left side of your screen the software center should be an orange suitcase with funny things coming out of it
[15:28] <darnell82> Thanks, amireldor
[15:28] <amireldor> darnell82, sure :)
[15:31] <william_> now that i have both client  and server what do i do
[15:32] <william_> when i right click then click run it does nothing
[15:36] <BluesKaj> william_, open a terminal where you downloaded the file , then sudo sh ./nameofpackage.run
[15:38] <WebVisitor-2> Got a System76 Darter. Any hints on getting max use out of the touchscreen?
[15:38] <william_> sh ./nameofpackage.run --- so keep the ./
[15:39] <BluesKaj> william_, yes
[15:41] <RootMan> Hi
[15:42] <william_> i did that and     sh /home/william/Desktop/TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_amd64
[15:43] <william_> basically  its the same
[15:43] <william_> it puts a folder on the desk top
[15:45] <william_> it still dont run
[15:47] <linuxusr> hello
[15:47] <william_> hello
[15:47] <linuxusr> I know I can run programs like root
[15:47] <linuxusr> but for run programs like another user ?
[15:48] <william_> ummm
[15:48] <linuxusr> like "su user 'program'"
[15:48] <linuxusr> giveme a error
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> linuxusr  create other user, su [that user]  <-- su means 'switch user'
[15:49] <[Gentoo]> try sudo -u user command
[15:50] <linuxusr> yeah, but I do that and the term give me "no protocol spified " cant open display 20
[15:50] <[Gentoo]> what program is it btw
[15:50] <linuxusr> firefox
[15:50] <rahules> hi, I'm having trouble with the software center app. It closes instantly after it is open.. I have tried removing files in the cache(/home/user/cache/software-center), tried reinstalling but both didn't work.
[15:51] <[Gentoo]> linuxusr: is it a security thing?
[15:51] <linuxusr> make this is posible? for root works...
[15:51] <yeats> rahules: do you see anything when you run 'software-center' from the terminal?
[15:51] <linuxusr> something between ... is for use the bookmarks of another account without had internet in the same account
[15:53] <linuxusr> is like follow: I had one account without inet and important data, I "shutdown" internet with iptables in that account
[15:53] <linuxusr> then I wish use the firefox of the another account, thats could evit the firefox or applets acces to my home files
[15:53] <linuxusr> using the another account, sounds logic?
[15:54] <[Gentoo]> linuxusr: im confused :s
[15:55] <[Gentoo]> you want to run it in restriced env?
[15:55] <linuxusr> something else, but i not need any special feature
[15:56] <pccasa> Hello. I've got a question. Why is Ubuntu-touch at the repositories if we cannot install it?
[15:56] <linuxusr> as far like i know, I can run programs like another users on terminal
[15:56] <linuxusr> for root works, can be made the same with grafical apps?
[15:56] <linuxusr> but with normal userS?
[15:58] <andyhuzhill> test
[16:00] <[Gentoo]> linuxusr: tbh I haven't tried with graphical apps, maybe something to do with the $DISPLAY if you get that error when running sudo -u user command
[16:03] <linuxusr> [Gentoo] i think the same , but for the moment no clue... like root works...
[16:03] <linuxusr> thanks you
[16:16] <Tonight> 0.0
[16:18] <NuSuey> anyone got an idea why I got a large list of possible missing firmware when I apt-get upgraded? "W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/radeon/BARTS_smc.bin for module radeon" ..for example
[16:18] <Abhijit> how do i prevent ubuntu from overwriting grub mbr each time it installs some update?
[16:20] <malinus> what is the name of the ubuntu desktop manager?
[16:24] <capy> !»óÅÂ
[16:24] <Janhouse> So, I set up ubuntu server and lxc and was wondering if the IP addresses stay the same after rebooting lxc.
[16:24] <Abhijit> malinus, unity
[16:24] <carlosdavid> 123456
[16:25] <Tyler> Hello
[16:25] <Tyler> Anybody there?
[16:26] <xenopus> Hello
[16:27] <Tyler> Hello
[16:28] <malinus> Abhijit, no, that's the name of the whole DE. What is the name of the software that manages your DE's.
[16:28] <nkhodyunya> Hi, I have fresh installation of Ubuntu 13.10 with package updates, I've installed php5-fpm with sudo apt-get install php5-fpm and now when i run sudo service php5-fpm status i get "Unknown job: php5-fpm" error. Need workaround.
[16:28] <malinus> it's name could include unity, it could be something like unity-de-manager
[16:29] <Tyler> I need to set up a webcaching proxy for another device in my network, can someone help me?
[16:29] <koell> wow, lubuntu is so much faster! its like ..... BAAAAM!
[16:29] <geirha> malinus: lightdm
[16:30] <malinus> geirha, thank you
[16:31] <Tyler> I wish to push a local file transparently to the other device
[16:32] <Tyler> It's greater than 1 GB and I intend to save my internet bandwidth by using this workaround
[16:32] <Tyler> *internet bandwidth and time
[16:32] <ikonia> you're not making any sense
[16:33] <ikonia> or giving any clear requirements
[16:33] <Tyler> Sorry, let me try to explain my requirements better
[16:34] <Tyler> There's a PS3 connected to my wireless network at home
[16:34] <Abhijit> malinator, gdm
[16:34] <Abhijit> or lightdm maybe
[16:35] <Tyler> There's a > 1 GB update file that I wish to transfer to it
[16:35] <Tyler> But PS3 doesn't accept update files locally, unless it's a system update file
[16:36] <ikonia> how is this an ubuntu issue ?
[16:36] <IdleOne> Tyler: how does this relate to ubuntu?
[16:36] <Tyler> I'm getting to it
[16:36] <Tyler> So I wish to setup a webcaching proxy server on my Ubuntu server
[16:37] <Tyler> That will intermediate all the requests between the PS3 and the internet
[16:37] <ikonia> Tyler: don't see how that will help you get that 1GB file onto your PS3 as it's not an update file
[16:37] <Tyler> It's an game update file, not a system update file
[16:38] <ikonia> yes, but you said you can't transfer files onto it unless it's an update file
[16:38] <koell> Is it possible to use avahi-daemon without ".local" suffix?
[16:38] <ikonia> and to be honest, I don't see how a web cache would help - as you still have to download the file
[16:38] <IdleOne> Setting aside this isn't an ubuntu issue. Why can't you just connect the PS3 to the internet and download the file you need/want?
[16:39] <ikonia> this is what I don't understand, if the PS3 downloads 1GB, or the web cache downloads 1GB - it's still downloading 1GB
[16:39] <Tyler> I will make PS3 request the update file through the system OS, while Ubuntu server would forware the cached file to the PS3 locally, without requesting and downloading it from the main server
[16:39] <ikonia> Tyler: got to be honest, I don't really believe what you are saying as it makes no sense
[16:39] <Tyler> Yes, but PS3 won't be downloading from the main server, rather locally
[16:40] <IdleOne> Tyler: why can't you download with the PS3 connected?
[16:40] <ikonia> Tyler: yes, but the local server will still have to download it, so it still 1GB on your bandwidth
[16:40] <ikonia> so you're not saving any badwidth, you are still downloading 1GB but just making it harder to get it to the PS3
[16:40] <Tyler> No the file has already been downloaded on the Ubuntu machine
[16:41] <Tyler> The bandwidth has already been spent
[16:41] <Tyler> And there are no worries about spending the local bandwidth because it's unlimited
[16:41] <Tyler> Do you understand?
[16:41] <ikonia> of course local bandwidth is unlimited, it's local
[16:41] <Tyler> Local bandwidth is unlimited because there's no ISP serving and charging for it
[16:41] <koell> WTF Mark Shuttleworth with a beard? REALLY? OMG
[16:41] <Tyler> Finally
[16:41] <ikonia> Tyler: to be honest, I think you are trying to do a crazy setup for no value
[16:42] <Tyler> The value is, that I'm saving my bandwidth and time
[16:42] <ikonia> koell: not of interest to this channel
[16:42] <IdleOne> Tyler: ok, so it sounds like a PS3 limitation, and trying to fool Sony (the PS3) into downloading from a proxy does not sound legit to me to download
[16:42] <Tyler> And this setup is gonna save me a lot of headache in future, given that I am successfully able to implement it
[16:42] <ikonia> Tyler: you may as well just download this 1 file again rather than a convoluted setup that will only help you once
[16:42] <ikonia> Tyler: how will it save you anything in the future ?
[16:43] <ikonia> Tyler: you will still have to download future files,
[16:43] <Tyler> It's nothing new, it's just a webcaching proxy server, that serves data locally, had it been cached already
[16:43] <ikonia> Tyler: there i no benifit of this setup other than this one file and for the sake of this one file, this setup is over the top
[16:43] <gordonjcp> Tyler: what exactly are you trying to do?
[16:43] <Tyler> The future files, I can download using Ubuntu machine using better download management and better speeds
[16:44] <IdleOne> Tyler: it won't save you any time, in fact it will increase the wait time. You will first have to download the file to the server and then get the file from the server.
[16:44] <ikonia> Tyler: there will be no better speeds/download management
[16:44] <Tyler> You don't know PS3 it seems
[16:44] <ikonia> Tyler: the ps3 does checksumming and recovery of crashed downloads
[16:44] <Tyler> PS3 is a very notorious device when it comes to downloading and installing updates
[16:44] <xtriz> why i can't remap keys ? the key gets mapped but the behaviour is undesirable, i.e. single key act as escape as well as caps
[16:45] <xtriz> is that i am using wireless keyboard it matters ?
[16:45] <Tyler> It will use 1/3 of our network bandwidth at any given time, without you having a clue
[16:45] <gordonjcp> Tyler: just grab the update, put it on a USB stick, plug it into the P3S3 and have done with it
[16:45] <ikonia> Tyler: no it won't
[16:45] <Tyler> Game updates can't be installed using USB
[16:45] <ikonia> Tyler: as if it needs to download a patch - it will download a patch, if it does it through a proxy, it will still use your bandwidth
[16:45] <Tyler> PS3 is a very restricted and closed system
[16:45] <ikonia> so there is no change, your bandwidth will still be used
[16:46] <Tyler> You're trying to question me more and more, rather than giving me a simple setup solution that I see as my best solution
[16:46] <Tyler> I already know what I have to do
[16:46] <Tyler> Just tell me how to do it
[16:46] <ikonia> Tyler: how are you getting games patches for the PS3 outside of the PS3 machines?
[16:47] <Tyler> PS3 never uses your full internet bandwidth
[16:47] <ikonia> Tyler: sorry, that's just wrong, it does
[16:47] <Tyler> If your network disconnects at any time in between the download, it restarts the download of the file from the begining
[16:47] <ikonia> Tyler: how are you getting games files for the PS3
[16:48] <Tyler> I have a webcaching proxy on my windows that downloads it
[16:48] <ikonia> Tyler: from where ?
[16:48] <Tyler> It downloads the huge updates in the background, while I can use the PS3 system like normal
[16:48] <ikonia> Tyler: where are you getting the games patches direct downloads from
[16:49] <Tyler> PSNDM is the name of the webcaching proxy available for Windows OSs
[16:50] <ikonia> Tyler: that is a propitary tool for windos
[16:50] <Tyler> No
[16:50] <onitaL> c:
[16:50] <Tyler> That is not developed by anyone belonging to Microsoft
[16:50] <ikonia> Tyler: I didn't say it was made by microsoft
[16:50] <ikonia> Tyler: I said it was a propitary tool for windows
[16:51] <gordonjcp> ikonia: "proprietary"
[16:51] <ikonia> gordonjcp: that too
[16:51] <IdleOne> you might try asking in #ps3linux
[16:51] <gordonjcp> ikonia: yw
[16:51] <Tyler> Than yes, it's propriet
[16:51] <Tyler> *propreity
[16:51] <Tyler> *propreitary
[16:51] <IdleOne> we get it
[16:51] <ikonia> Tyler: if you look at what that does, it just downloads the file for you, then splits it, then feeds it to the PS3
[16:51] <Tyler> Yes
[16:51] <ikonia> Tyler: there is no real benift to this in real world usage unless you have 10+ PS3's on the same network
[16:52] <Tyler> If it had no benefits, than I would not be here asking you for a similar setup for ubuntu
[16:52] <Tyler> If it had no benefits, the programmer that coded it would never have coded it for the masse
[16:52] <gordonjcp> Tyler: what exactly are you trying to do here?
[16:53] <gordonjcp> speed up PS3 updates?
[16:53] <Tyler> Yes
[16:53] <gordonjcp> they only take a few minutes anyway
[16:53] <Tyler> Let me go through the benefits
[16:53] <gordonjcp> kick the download off and leave it until it's done
[16:53] <gordonjcp> there are no benefits
[16:54] <gordonjcp> just let it download
[16:54] <Tyler> 1. My ISP provides me with a slow internet, I can't afford to trust the network for uptimes
[16:54] <gordonjcp> so?
[16:54] <gordonjcp> it'll be just as slow downloading it onto a PC
[16:54] <ikonia> gordonjcp: he can't grasp this fact
[16:55] <Tyler> I the network goes down during PS3 download, the PS3 system restarts downloading the file from the very beginning rather than resuming it
[16:55] <ikonia> gordonjcp: if it takes 1 hour to download a 1GB file on the PS3, it will take 1 hour to download a 1GB file on the PC, then he has the hassle of setting up and running a proxy to serve it
[16:55] <Tyler> 2. PS3 uses 1/3 of the total bandwidth available
[16:55] <ikonia> Tyler: 2.) wrong
[16:55] <gordonjcp> Tyler: no, it doesn't
[16:55] <gordonjcp> Tyler: it resumes from where it left off
[16:55] <Tyler> Yes, it does
[16:55] <ikonia> Tyler: it uses %100 of my network
[16:55] <ikonia> Tyler: so your network must be setup wrong
[16:55] <gordonjcp> Tyler: I can tell you it resumes from where it left off
[16:55] <ikonia> gordonjcp: I've already told him this, he doesn't believe me
[16:56] <ikonia> hence why what he wants to do is pointless
[16:56] <ikonia> and on that note, I'll leave it alone
[16:56] <Tyler> I'm the one experiencing the speeds that PS3 downloads files with, you can't dispute this with "me" the one who experiences it as first-hand
[16:56] <gordonjcp> Tyler: is your PS3 hooked up over wireless?
[16:56] <Tyler> And what about the downtime issue I made you aware of?
[16:56] <gordonjcp> what downtime issue?
[16:57] <gordonjcp> Tyler: if your internet connection is down, neither your PC or the PS3 will be able to download
[16:57] <Tyler> Don't you get it, if my internet gets disconnected while the PS3 is downloading a huge file, than there's no other way to resume the file from what already has been downloaded
[16:58] <gordonjcp> Tyler: the PS3 resumes files if the download drops
[16:58] <gordonjcp> Tyler: it's right there in the documentation
[16:59] <Tyler> If my internet connection is down, and if the file has already been cached on the proxy server, all I need is a 1kbops dialup internet connection to forward that file to the PS#, because local bandwidth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ISP bandwidth
[16:59] <Tyler> PS3 only resume game files, not game update files
[16:59] <ikonia> Tyler: if the file is alrady downloaded...you don't need to move the file
[16:59] <Tyler> *resumes
[16:59] <Tyler> Why are you
[16:59] <Tyler> *trying to argue with me?
[16:59] <gordonjcp> okay, never mind then
[16:59] <ikonia> Tyler: because you're wrong
[17:00] <Tyler> Nope
[17:00] <ikonia> Tyler: and people are trying to save you time/effort/pain
[17:00] <Tyler> I'm not
[17:00] <ikonia> Tyler: ok, good luck then
[17:00] <Tyler> Let's argue then, let's waste some time
[17:00] <gordonjcp> Tyler: a bunch of people in here are PS3 developers
[17:00] <Tyler> It seems you've so much of it
[17:00] <Tyler> Sure then
[17:00] <Tyler> Let's argue
[17:00] <ikonia> lets not
[17:00] <gordonjcp> obviously they can't go into specifics because of non-disclosure agreements
[17:01] <Tyler> You're saying PS3 downloads files using the full bandwidth that is available from the ISP?
[17:01] <ikonia> Tyler: you've had "FACT" given to you, and you disagree, that's fine, so you have a choice of accepting it, or making a crazy technical solution you think is better
[17:01] <gordonjcp> Tyler: mine does, but I'm only on about 5Mbps
[17:01] <Tyler> I'm saying, it's not the case
[17:01] <ikonia> Tyler: it's up to you what you do
[17:01] <Tyler> For me, atleast
[17:01] <ikonia> Tyler: that's why I said earlier - you may want to look at your network setup
[17:01] <Tyler> It just took me 5 days to download a game, had I downloaded it on my PC, it would've taken hardly a single day
[17:01] <gordonjcp> Tyler: if your connection is that bad, I suggest you switch suppliers
[17:02] <gordonjcp> Tyler: how is the PS3 connected to the network?
[17:02] <ikonia> Tyler: as I'm on a 80mb conection, and it uses 75mb, and I ended up putting qos rules on my network for this and other devices
[17:02] <Tyler> I just have a single ISP available here
[17:02] <nhorning> need some help with grub here
[17:02] <Tyler> It's connected using WiFi
[17:03] <gordonjcp> aha
[17:03] <nhorning> Hi all I'm trying to use a USB drive to boot an ISO
[17:03] <gordonjcp> mine is *terrible* on wifi
[17:03] <MonkeyDust> Tyler  so maybe it's wifi that drops, not the internet connection
[17:03] <gordonjcp> Tyler: try hooking up an ethernet cable
[17:03] <Tyler> It's a G
[17:03] <IdleOne> well, there is your problem
[17:03] <Tyler> What can you expect :/
[17:03] <nhorning> Ok, I'll type all at once
[17:03] <IdleOne> So, please drop this PS3 discussion as it has nothing to do with Ubuntu. Thank you.
[17:03] <gordonjcp> Tyler: my PS3 is one of the earliest ones and has problems with most wifi access points
[17:03] <Tyler> I can't provide a NAT 1 to my PS3
[17:04] <Tyler> I don't care about PS3, I care about the issue, @IdleOne
[17:04] <nhorning> The grub on my USB drive is booting from my main hard drive,  I need to change grub on the USB drive so that it boots from the ISO on the USB.  How do I do that?
[17:04] <nhorning> Can anyone help?
[17:04] <ikonia> Tyler: ok - here is your fix, download and setup squid proxy server
[17:04] <ikonia> Tyler: that's the proxy server you need to setup
[17:04] <Tyler> Best way to implement webcaching proxy on Ubuntu?
[17:04] <ikonia> Tyler: good luck
[17:04] <ikonia> Tyler: just told you
[17:05] <gordonjcp> Tyler: the first thing you need to fix is your connection to the PS3
[17:05] <Tyler> Okay
[17:05] <IdleOne> Tyler: The issue has nothing to do with Ubuntu. That is what I care about. This is an Ubuntu support channel, not a "help me fix my PS3 problem" channel.
[17:05] <gordonjcp> Tyler: you *must* have wired ethernet
[17:05] <gordonjcp> Tyler: forget it even has wifi
[17:05] <nhorning> ikonia:  can you help me with my grub problem?
[17:05] <ikonia> nhorning: not really no
[17:05] <gordonjcp> nhorning: how did you create the USB stick?
[17:05] <Tyler> Tell me, how do I need to setup it so that it forwards the update files, rather then requesting them from the internet?
[17:05] <ikonia> I'm returning to my Christmas shopping after wasting my time with Tyler
[17:05] <nhorning> gordonjcp: instructions in pendrive linux
[17:06] <ikonia> Tyler: setup squid proxy, in the PS3 settings point at squid proxy as a proxy server
[17:06] <Tyler> If I could filter URLs that are needed to be server locally rather than requesting the remote server
[17:06] <nhorning> gordonjcp: but at some point I screwed up grub while I was working on a system
[17:06] <nhorning> gordonjcp: I think I updated it to think that it was sda or something
[17:06] <nhorning> gordonjcp: I really just want to remove it from the drive and reinstall it
[17:07] <nhorning> gordonjcp: from the USB that is
[17:07] <Tyler> ikonia, you presume your knowledge is correct without even thinking it thoroughly
[17:07] <nhorning> gordonjcp: need it to work tomorrow for a demo
[17:07] <Tyler> *presumed
[17:07] <ikonia> Tyler: I "know" my knowledge is correct, because I have thought it through, however you can ignore it if you disagree
[17:07] <Schrodinger`Cat> meow
[17:07] <Tyler> I didn't meant to ruin your Christmas
[17:08] <Tyler> Tell me then, how did you not know that PS3 can't resume update files?
[17:08] <ikonia> Tyler: I know it can because a.) I have a PS3 b.) it says it does it in the manual
[17:08] <Tyler> How did you not know PS3 downloads and installs, updates by going in a restricted mode?
[17:08] <nhorning> gordonjcp:  any ideas gordonjcp?
[17:09] <ikonia> Tyler: we did not talk about restircted mode, I don't know why you have just made that statement after that was not disussed at all
[17:09] <Tyler> If you knew than you didn't use it, lol
[17:09] <Tyler> You should've known, that's the point
[17:09] <ikonia> Tyler: known what ?
[17:09] <Tyler> If you pretend you know, than you should know
[17:09] <eugene_> I'am using ubuntu on the latest iMac and I have some troubles with sound: there is sound from the native speaker, but there is no sound from headphones when I plug them in. I have disabled automute in alsamixer, but that didn't help
[17:10] <rootpt> i've got this machine with windows and one machine with ubuntu installed in virtualbox, how can a sen a message through the cmd (network) to the machine with ubuntu in the same network ?
[17:10] <Tyler> Why did you kick me?
[17:11] <IdleOne> because I asked you nicely to stop this discussion and you refuse.
[17:11] <IdleOne> Now please take it elsewhere.
[17:11] <Tyler> It seems childish first you tried to investigate every bit of my need rather than providing me a solution to the exact need
[17:11] <Tyler> And than kicking me out because I'm making my points rather rationally?
[17:11] <ikonia> Tyler: I've given you an exact solution
[17:11] <Tyler> I got it
[17:12] <IdleOne> Tyler: setup squid proxy, set correct proxy settings on your PS3. Done.
[17:12] <IdleOne> Now drop this off topic discussion.
[17:12] <rahules> hi, I'm having trouble with the software center app. It closes instantly after it is open.. I have tried removing files in the cache(/home/user/cache/software-center), tried reinstalling but both didn't work.
[17:12] <Tyler> Don't say things like "someone ruined you christmas" when your curiosity is the sole reason for that
[17:12] <rahules> I have the terminal output here  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6572962/
[17:12] <ikonia> Tyler: no-one said that
[17:12] <Tyler> Ok, thanks
[17:12] <rahules> hi, I'm having trouble with the software center app. It closes instantly after it is open.. I have tried removing files in the cache(/home/user/cache/software-center), tried reinstalling but both didn't work.I have the terminal output here:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6572962/
[17:13] <rahules> using ubuntu 13.04
[17:13] <kostkon> rahules, what's the errors you are getting
[17:13] <Tyler> I'm sorry, for not staying cool for a little longer
[17:13] <rahules> kostkon: nothing, it just flashes and disappears
[17:13] <kostkon> rahules, run it from the terminal
[17:13] <kostkon> rahules, the cmd is "software-center"
[17:13] <rahules> kostkon: paste.ubuntu link http://paste.ubuntu.com/6572962/
[17:14] <kostkon> rahules, are you using the stock theme?
[17:15] <kostkon> rahules, if not, try changing to radiance or ambiance. same for your icon theme
[17:15] <rahules> kostkon: no, i'm using numix theme
[17:15] <MrJerome> How can I keep unity from hijacking my sublime text shortcut keys? For example ctrl+alt+downarrow switches workspaces instead of the sublime command I want.
[17:15] <kostkon> rahules, revert back to the defaults then
[17:15] <rahules> kostkon: okay. i'll try
[17:15] <kostkon> rahules, and see if that changes anything
[17:16] <rahules> kostkon: nop. still exits instantly
[17:16] <rootpt> i've got this machine with windows and one machine with ubuntu installed in virtualbox, how can a sen a message through the cmd (network) to the machine with ubuntu in the same network ?
[17:16] <kostkon> rahules, try logging out and logging back in
[17:17] <rahules> kostkon: okay
[17:17] <Guest12900> hey bro
[17:18] <glitsj16> MrJerome: have you tried disabling the shortcuts that you want to re-assign yourself through 'system settings' > 'keyboard' > 'shortcuts' yet?
[17:19] <rahules> kostkon: still no luck. it's the same as before
[17:19] <kostkon> rahules, ok
[17:19] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[17:20] <onetinsoldier> hi
[17:20] <Guest12900> oii
[17:21] <MrJerome> glitsj16: So I should just remap the unity shorctuts to something that doesn't conflict?
[17:22] <glitsj16> MrJerome: either remap or disable those yes, whatever your setup needs
[17:23] <MrJerome> glitsj16: ok thank you
[17:23] <glitsj16> MrJerome: you can use the 'Custom Shortcuts' pane to map new ones
[17:23] <glitsj16> MrJerome: you're welcome
[17:25] <kostkon> rahules, have you installed anything from 3rd party ppas by any chance
[17:25] <rahules> kostkon: `yes, actually, i have a few of them
[17:27] <kostkon> rahules, could be the culprit. have you installed another desktop environment using one of those ppas for example?
[17:27] <tjbiddle> Anyone have experience with converting ~60 y/o parents from Windows to an Ubuntu Desktop machine?
[17:28] <rahules> kostkon: nop. just some apps that i needed and a few themes
[17:28] <tjbiddle> I've gotten tired of cleaning up their computer every time I visit, lol
[17:29] <kostkon> rahules, you could try purging the ppas providing those themes. at least you could give it a try. it's easy with ppa-purge
[17:29] <kostkon> !ppa-purge
[17:29] <rahules> Okay kostkon , will try purging the ppas. It should be ok if i used y-ppa manager right?
[17:30] <kostkon> rahules, haven't used it. no idea what it does exactly
[17:31] <rahules> kostkon: ah it's just a GUI for the different ppa commands. Anyways, thanks for your help. I'll try purging the ppa's and see if ti works
[17:33] <evilbug> tjbiddle: i've switched my dad and grandpa to ubuntu.
[17:34] <tjbiddle> evilbug: Sounds promising. I think my Dad could handle it - Not sure about Mom though. She's confused enough with her Nexus 5 & 10, lol
[17:35] <evilbug> tjbiddle: so she's confused with tech in general.
[17:35] <evilbug> tjbiddle: the argument for my dad was that it's much more stable and efficient than windows plus he doesn't need to worry about viruses.
[17:36] <CeliaStuford>  I'm 18 F UK :) Sellinn' show and pics by :D Skype: Celia.Stuford
[17:36] <evilbug> CeliaStuford: omg that's so hot!
[17:36] <kostkon> CeliaStuford, wrong channel
[17:37] <step1> Hallo - I have a question about evolution. Is this the right place to ask?
[17:37] <evilbug> tjbiddle: for my grandpa... well he doesn't care what os he's on as long as he has internet stuff.
[17:37] <evilbug> tjbiddle: one thing i would've done differently though would be to go for xubuntu since unity is quite crap.
[17:38] <dracnoc> step1: I might be able to help with evolution.
[17:39] <step1> The question is: the behavoir of the "delete" button seems to have changed. Now if I delete a message all read messages seem to be deleted.
[17:40] <tjbiddle> evilbug: I'll keep it in mind. Thanks!
[17:40] <step1> Have I changed the configuration without noticing it?
[17:40] <evilbug> tjbiddle: good luck.
[17:40] <dracnoc> step1: ... that's a new one on me. changing the configuration would require several steps and i think you would have noticed it.
[17:41] <dracnoc> step1: are you sure you're not selecting/highlighting several emails at once?
[17:43] <step1> no. I select a few mails one after the other, then press delete and they all disappear
[17:44] <dracnoc> step1: hmmm.... it's the only thing i can think of. in order for several emails to be deleted at the same time/pressing delete only once, then they would all have to be selected at the same time.
[17:45] <dracnoc> step1: are you using a trackpad? could there be some issue with that perhaps?
[17:45] <pingus81> salve, ho cambiato l'immagine di sfondo e ovviamente cambia anche al login, però prima che carica l'immagine di un colore diverso mi compare per un istante il viola. Odio il viola come posso fare?
[17:46] <gordonjcp> !it | pingus81
[17:46] <step1> dracnoc: no just a mouse. Is there somewhere where you can see which commands are connected to which key?
[17:46] <pingus81> sorry ubottu
[17:48] <dracnoc> step1: key commands - do you mean the system as a whole not just evolution? then go to Dash and type "keyboard", you should see an app with the same name. Select that and click on the shortcuts tab.
[17:50] <J-Escobar> Hello, I recently was having some hard drive failure on my primary drive. This was a 2tb drive. I went and got a good deal on a new 3tb drive. I tried using clonezilla to copy everything to the new drive but it failed. So I booted up a live cd and used ddrescue to copy to the new 3tb drive and that worked. The only issue now is that I have 1tb of unallocated space. So I tried using gparted to resize the extended partition and move the s
[17:50] <J-Escobar> all the way to the right. Then resized the extended all the way to the right and resized my primary partition to use up the unallocated space. That failed "Can't have overlapping partitions. So I was trying to figure that out when I accidentally made my swap the full 1tb. So I tried resizing everything back to the way it was. Now disk utility is saying the extended and swap are misaligned. I really want to get everything aligned and get
[17:50] <J-Escobar> primary partition resized to use the full 3tb of the drive. Can anyone help me accomplish this? Here is what frisk -l is showing for my primary drive now http://paste.ubuntu.com/6573572
[17:50] <dracnoc> step1: if you just mean evolution shortcuts, then go to evolution, click on Help -> Quick Reference
[17:51] <dcope> i've just created an init.d script to power haproxy but whenever i try to start it nothing happens. nothing gets logged and nothing gets written to stdout. what's going on?
[17:51] <dcope> it has proper 755 permissions
[17:52] <TheRealBacon> dcope what version of ubuntu are you running?
[17:52] <dcope> TheRealBacon: 12.04
[17:53] <TheRealBacon> dcope, what command are you using to execute the script?
[17:54] <dcope> TheRealBacon: /etc/init.d/haproxy start
[17:54] <TheRealBacon> did you try to change directory into /etc/init.d/ and then ./haproxy start?
[17:55] <dcope> TheRealBacon: yep, doesn't work.
[17:55] <dcope> it's weird because i've done this on another 12.04 server just fine before
[17:55] <TheRealBacon> you're in the correct group to execute it, right?
[17:55] <dcope> yep, logged in as root
[17:55] <TheRealBacon> log out of root
[17:55] <TheRealBacon> sudo to execute it
[17:55] <TheRealBacon> tell me the result
[17:56] <dcope> still nothing :(
[17:56] <dcope> at the bare minimum stuff should be written to stdout wtf :(
[17:56] <TheRealBacon> do u see anything in syslog
[17:56] <TheRealBacon> or messages
[17:56] <dcope> TheRealBacon: nothing of interest in there
[17:56] <TheRealBacon> apparmor getting in the way?
[17:57] <step1> dracnoc: Thanks for your help. I've found the solution. I had the messages filtered for unread messages. Problems are often solved just by talking to someone else.
[17:57] <afrax> hi :)
[17:57] <dracnoc> step1: oh! they weren't being deleted after all, just hidden from view with the filter...
[17:57] <dracnoc> step1: hey, we've all been there. no worries.
[17:58] <afrax> what on linux palyng minecraft ? :D
[18:01] <glitsj16> dcope: did you enable haproxy to start in /etc/default/haproxy?
[18:01] <rod> hello
[18:03] <puff`> is there any way to see the history of updates to a certain package?
[18:05] <Hassen> ???
[18:05] <PR1M3-1NST1NCT> wow
[18:05] <Wiz_KeeD> ouch!
[18:05] <PR1M3-1NST1NCT> ddos?
[18:06] <puff`> Is there any way to see the history of updates to a certain package?
[18:06] <PR1M3-1NST1NCT> lol
[18:06] <Wiz_KeeD> could it be netslipt eventhough it wasn't categorised as it?
[18:06] <dracnoc> that was fun... do it again!
[18:08] <glitsj16> puff: /var/log/history.log and its .gz's should be having that info, allthough not organised by package
[18:08] <puff> glitsj16: Thanks.
[18:09] <glitsj16> puff: /var/log/apt/history.log, correction
[18:10] <dracnoc> puff: use the Software Center. Click on History at the top, and use the search tool to find the package you're interested in.
[18:11] <puff> dracnoc: Thanks.
[18:11] <dracnoc> puff: :-)
[18:13] <TheRealBacon> dcope: sorry, I got disconnected.  Was apparmor getting in the way?
[18:16] <monsoor> hello
[18:16] <benbb> sup
[18:16] <dracnoc> hiya
[18:16] <kostkon> monsoor, hi
[18:17] <monsoor> Hi, is this the right channel to ask help regarding virtualbox issues on ubuntu
[18:18] <benbb> What's your problem?
[18:18] <monsoor> I cant get the virtualbox started after installation
[18:18] <benbb> Any errors?
[18:18] <monsoor> it gives error message VirtualBox: supR3HardenedMainGetTrustedMain: dlopen("/usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBox.so",) failed: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libQtOpenGL.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZNK14QWidgetPrivate17hasHeightForWidthEv
[18:19] <benbb> Huh. That's strange.
[18:19] <kostkon> monsoor, what version of ubuntu are you on
[18:19] <monsoor> Currently on 13.10.  just upgrades
[18:19] <monsoor> just upgraded
[18:19] <monsoor> it was fine on 12.04
[18:19] <benbb> Have you done a system update yet?
[18:20] <kostkon> monsoor, how did you install it
[18:20] <benbb> I once had Vbox issues and that seemed to sort things out.
[18:20] <monsoor> yes, its all current
[18:20] <benbb> Did you reboot when it asked you to?
[18:20] <benbb> (The ubuntu updater)
[18:20] <kostkon> monsoor, from the usc or from their repo?
[18:20] <monsoor> i installed using the sudo commands
[18:21] <dracnoc> monsoor: nvidia or ati card?
[18:21] <kostkon> monsoor, i would suggest cleaning your cache (sudo apt-get clean) and then reinstalling it
[18:21] <monsoor> i am new to linux. I dont understand usc or repo.  Please
[18:21] <puff> dracnoc, glitsj16, oddly enough, software center history shows no changes between Oct 12 and Dec 1, but I remember a bunch of updates in november (and /var/log/apt/history1.log shows them).
[18:21] <benbb> You used sudo commands but don't understand?
[18:21] <benbb> You should just be using VirtualBox.
[18:21] <kostkon> monsoor, if you want the latest you can use their official repo or just grab the deb -> https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[18:22] <benbb> * Software Centre.
[18:22] <benbb> Try a deb from kostkon's link
[18:22] <monsoor> I will try the cleaning.  just a min.  Just for info , i purged earlier installations before the recent install.
[18:22] <kostkon> monsoor, how recent?
[18:22] <benbb> FYI: USC means Ubuntu Software Centre.
[18:22] <dracnoc> puff: ... i'm not sure what that means for your system. are you having a problem with a particular package?
[18:22] <monsoor> couple of days ago
[18:22] <kostkon> monsoor, hmm ok
[18:23] <glitsj16> puff: i'm afraid i don't use the software center, but your logs do have them, go with that info i'd say
[18:23] <monsoor> can u please repeat the commands for the clean
[18:24] <puff> dracnoc: I'm trying to figure out what caused this problem that's spiking my xorg to 103% CPU usage (according to top).
[18:24] <dracnoc> puff: i agree with glitsj16. the history in the software center is useful, but the logs are the real thing. go with them.
[18:24] <monsoor> I am trying the sudo apt-get clean and reinstalling.
[18:24] <puff> How do I figure out what nvidia driver I'm using?  In the past it was a particular install process for proprietary vs. nouveau...
[18:25] <bish0p_> are there any programs like truecrypt that use the terminal?
[18:25] <dracnoc> puff: if you have the nvidia control panel installed, it will tell you there.
[18:26] <dracnoc> puff: nvidia-settings    (in a console)
[18:26] <benbb> bish0p_ : http://www.truecrypt.org/docs/command-line-usage
[18:26] <puff> dracnoc: Not installed.
[18:26] <bish0p_> huh, didn't see that. thanks, benbb
[18:26] <puff> dracnoc: dpkg -l | fgrep -i nvidia -> nothing.
[18:26] <puff> dracnoc: dpkg -l | fgrep -i driver -> nouveau shows up
[18:26] <dracnoc> puff: dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[18:27] <puff> dracnoc: I just did...
[18:27] <benbb> np bish0p_
[18:27] <Ted> I have a 256gb SSD, and a 1TB hard-drive. How can I use 256gb SSD just for my Linux distro and the 1TB for my data files?
[18:28] <dracnoc> puff: lol. comment collision! looks like the main nvidia drivers are not installed.
[18:28] <puff> dracnoc: Yeah.
[18:28] <dracnoc> i'm not sure how the nouveau drivers will behave on your system. you might want to consider switching over.
[18:28] <puff> dracnoc: When I last mucked with that it was a tricksy and perilous processs... is it easier to install the binary drivers now?
[18:28] <glitsj16> puff: you can see your current driver in use with lspci -k | egrep 'VGA|use' | grep VGA -A 1, just to double-check
[18:29] <puff> glitsj16: Thanks.
[18:29] <dracnoc> puff:what nividia card do you have? the installer is a breeze these days
[18:29] <benbb> It's often a pain to use the nvidia installer crap
[18:29] <benbb> Conflicts with Nouveau a lot
[18:30] <edza101> How do you find the identifier for example: an external display?
[18:30] <puff> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) Kernel driver in use: i915
[18:31] <dracnoc> puff: is that the onboard graphics?
[18:31] <glitsj16> puff: looks like you have a hybrid
[18:31] <puff> dracnoc: I'm thinking yes.
[18:31] <puff> dracnoc: Yeah, I have a thinkpad with optimus. Hm.
[18:31] <Guest27584> Seems to be more support for the newer generation of Nvidia Cards than the old
[18:31] <jamiejackson> hi folks. i've got 12.04, and would like to upgrade it. seems wise to go one version at a time. true? if so, how do i go, say, from 12.04 to 12.10?
[18:32] <puff> jamiejackson: Don't do it man!
[18:32] <glitsj16> edza101: you mean identifier like LVDS-0, HDMI-0 etc? if so xrandr can show that
[18:32] <jamiejackson> puff: don't do what?
[18:32] <MonkeyDust> jamiejackson  my advice: wait until April, you'll have a new LTS ubuntu
[18:32] <edza101> glitsj16: thanks alot
[18:32] <puff> jamiejackson:  Just (semi) kidding. I upgraded to 13.04 and I'm still kinda sorry that I left LTS.
[18:32] <kostkon> jamiejackson, you will be able to upgrade directly to 14.04 in april
[18:33] <dracnoc> puff: damn. optimus doesn't have a good history with ubuntu nvidia drivers
[18:33] <MonkeyDust> puff  i returned to 12.04 LTS, never been happier
[18:33] <jamiejackson> puff, MonkeyDust, kostkon : okay, i hear you. i'll wait, thanks.
[18:33] <puff> It's weird, dpkg shows the nouveau drivers, but lspci shows I'm using intel?
[18:33] <edza101> glitsj16: my monitor doesnt show up on xrandr output, I have it connected to my computer by a HDMI cable.
[18:33] <Nach0z> puff: you on a laptop?
[18:34] <Nach0z> with switchable graphics when you're in Windows?
[18:34] <dracnoc> puff: this link might help - http://askubuntu.com/questions/202644/how-to-install-nvidia-optimus-driver
[18:34] <puff> Nach0z: Yeah, thinkpad t520 with nvidia optimus.
[18:34] <Nach0z> oic
[18:34] <Nach0z> laptop graphics suck to work with
[18:34] <puff> Nach0z: Tell me about it.
[18:34] <edza101> puff: tried using bumblebee
[18:35] <puff> edza101: I lost a week down that rabbithole back in september, not sure I want to tackle it again.
[18:35] <edza101> puff: it does work ... I have it running atm with an optimus card
[18:35] <puff> edza101: Although I *would* like to get my HDMI out working.
[18:35] <puff> edza101: What model laptop?
[18:36] <edza101> puff: custom, with a 540m nvidia card
[18:36] <puff> custom laptop?
[18:36] <puff> That's weird.
[18:36] <edza101> puff: stitched together old parts ._.
[18:36] <Guest27584> Only problem i'm having with Nouveau is i'm unable to play any games like DOTA2 or Path of Exile for example
[18:36] <edza101> puff: saving up though :)
[18:37] <puff> edza101: Ah... okay.  I highly, highly recommend t-series thinkpads.
[18:37] <puff> edza101: Corporations buy them in droves, then replace them when they're 3-4 years old.  But being a thinkpad T series (the T stands for Transportable, but it might as well stand for Tough) they are in far better shape than most 3-4 year old laptops.
[18:37] <Guest27584> I've got Nvidia GeForce 310M
[18:38] <puff> Hmmmm: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-Latest-Nvidia-Drivers-in-Ubuntu-13-04-350497.shtml
[18:38] <Calinou> 310M is not optimus, I think
[18:38] <Guest27584> No its not dont think Nvidia are really supporting 310M
[18:38] <puff> Optimus on the thinkpad is a pain, though.
[18:38] <Calinou> they are
[18:39] <Calinou> but the 310M is a really low end and old card, and a rebranded one, and a mobile one...
[18:39] <edza101> Calinou: Im sure all m series cards are optimus
[18:39] <puff> They did werid things to the video hardware.
[18:39] <Calinou> edza101, no not at all
[18:39] <Calinou> for instance, 8400M or 9600M are not optimus
[18:39] <Calinou> I think optimus starts with fermi cards... (400M)
[18:40] <Calinou> puff, optimus implementations are generally the same around laptops these days
[18:40] <edza101> Calinou: thats odd, I seem to remeber getting an old 380m
[18:40] <edza101> and it was optimus
[18:40] <Calinou> 380M?
[18:40] <Calinou> very unlikely to see
[18:41] <Calinou> "300" series was a series of rebrand, usually for low end market
[18:41] <Calinou> I doubt there was anything mid or high end
[18:41] <glitsj16> Guest27584: 310M is very well support by the nvidia driver in the regular repo's, girlfriend's laptop has one, works fine
[18:41] <edza101> Calinou: it was from an old school recycle
[18:42] <puff> Calinou: That's good to hear, but a year or two ago, if you set the BIOS setting to purely the onboard intel chipset, it cut the external video port completely out of the loop.
[18:42] <Calinou> edza101, I doubt a school laptop would have a high end card
[18:42] <Guest27584> ahh ok thats good guess I just have to find the right driver version
[18:42] <glitsj16> Guest27584: what version of ubuntu are you using this card on?
[18:43] <Guest27584> I am currently using 13.10
[18:43] <Guest27584> 304 works but is limited and 319 doesnt work at all
[18:43] <puff> Hm.... "Know that The Nvidia card is not compatible with Unity 3D. The Intel HD 3000 is. That >means that if you're using Unity 3D now, it's the Intel card which is in use. And the fact The Graphics Driver name does not appear in Systems Settings (Details)," from: http://askubuntu.com/questions/126369/nvidia-doesnt-show-up-in-additional-driver-power-regression-issue-in-ubuntu-1
[18:43] <Guest27584> but I know there are more versions out there and I'm in the process of finding the right one
[18:44] <glitsj16> Guest27584: then i'd go for nvidia-current before trying PPA's, should be fine
[18:44] <giorgio1987> !ciao
[18:44] <giorgio1987> !list
[18:44] <Guest27584> yes i've tried the Nvidia Current and it gives me 304, 304-updates, 319-tested, 319-updates and thats it
[18:44] <puff> So maybe nvidia's not showing up in lspci because I'm in unity?
[18:45] <edza101> glitsj16: my monitor is not showing up on xrandr ... Its connected by a HDMI port
[18:45] <imghost> puff, paste the output of lspci -vvnn | grep VGA
[18:47] <jamiejackson> Hey, Folks
[18:48] <glitsj16> guest27584: if 319 isn't working, you might try 331.20, the very latest from https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates if you're comfortable to try PPA's
[18:48] <puff> imghost: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6573908/
[18:48] <Guest27584> THanks for that
[18:48] <glitsj16> edza101: perhaps try disconnecting the hdmi, plugging it back in and run xrandr again, can't really help more i'm afraid
[18:50] <imghost> puff, paste the output of sudo lshw
[18:50] <imghost> pudim, also of lspci -v
[18:51] <imghost> puff, also of lspci -v
[18:52] <Guest27584> Hi glitsjl6 how do I go about installing your recommendation?
[18:54] <Wiz_KeeD> Can anyone help me place a automatic command on boot to set synclient touchpad parameters?
[18:54] <puff> imghost: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6573941/
[18:54] <Wiz_KeeD> pretty please?
[18:55] <Guest27584> I mean I know how to install i'm not familiar with the naming for this particular driver 331.20.  Is it something like this - Nividia-Linux-x86_64-331.20.run?
[18:55] <glitsj16> Guest27584: i always do a sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade before adding a PPA, but that's not necessary i believe, old habit .. after that run sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates to get the new package info onto your system, run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get update again
[18:56] <Guest27584> run the update process twice?
[18:56] <puff> Wiz_KeeD: This looks relevant: http://askubuntu.com/questions/290009/how-do-i-make-my-synclient-settings-stick-ubuntu-13-04
[18:56] <geirha> the last "update" was probably meant to be "upgrade"
[18:56] <glitsj16> Guest27584: i use it as a precaution just in case you later decide to purge the PPA without getting into dependency hell
[18:57] <Guest27584> ahh ok
[18:57] <glitsj16> geirha: correct, thx for that :)
[18:57] <Guest27584> I did sudo apt-get upgrade and its revealed an update to nvidia-settings but no other driver versions
[18:58] <glitsj16> Guest27584: sudo apt-get install nvidia-331 in that case
[18:58] <Guest27584> aha, much more simpler than previously thought.  Thank you
[18:59] <glitsj16> Guest27584: no problem, hope it works out better that 319
[19:00] <Guest27584> feelings mutual.  I want this to work so I dont have to keep switching between drivers in order to play DOTA" or anything else
[19:00] <Guest27584> thanks again
[19:00] <Wiz_KeeD> puff, will test now! brb
[19:00] <stanley> stanley
[19:01] <glitsj16> Guest27584: just fyi, you refered to the Nvidia-Linux-...run, that's the binary driver for a manual install, the repository way is simpler these days
[19:01] <imghost> puff, by default kernel is not loading your nvidia, you have to enable switch for that you need to take help of a 3rd party app called bumblebee
[19:02] <puff> imghost: I'm thinking of trying out the vanilla in-repo nvidia drivers first.
[19:02] <Guest27584> Yes the repos certaintly speed up the upgrading without too much fiddling around.  Its just finding the right repos
[19:02] <Guest27584> safe/stable repos
[19:02] <glitsj16> indeed
[19:03] <Wiz_KeeD> puff, God bless you m8!
[19:03]  * Wiz_KeeD hugs
[19:03] <Guest27584> Linux's Kernel is Modular correct?
[19:03] <puff> Wiz_KeeD: The credit all goes to the many, many people who have helped me in the past.
[19:03] <Wiz_KeeD> :D
[19:03] <imghost> puff, you should try bumblebee
[19:04] <Nach0z> lol
[19:04] <Nach0z> imghost: you're like the fifth person to say that
[19:04] <Wiz_KeeD> puff, bumblebee if AWESOME
[19:04] <Wiz_KeeD> especially for saucy salamader
[19:04] <Wiz_KeeD> 13/10
[19:04] <ceciliasp> Hi tehre. I´m witha a major crash and I could use some help!
[19:04] <puff> imghost: I'm reluctant, because the last time I tried it, several months ago, my install got all kinds of messed up.
[19:04] <glitsj16> Guest27584: allthough not officially supported here, because it's a PPA, i think the ubuntu-x team responsible for that particular PPA can be trusted, they mark it as stable themselves, never encountered anything odd with in 3+ years .. goodluck :)
[19:05] <puff> imghost: But okay, I'm installnig some updates now, when they complete I'll give bumblebee another shot.
[19:05] <Guest27584> Yes it did say stable releases when I just added the repo now.  Do I have to sudo apt-get install Nvidia-331.20-settings to get the settings?
[19:06] <ceciliasp> I can´t boot my computer and the only thing I can see is grub>
[19:06] <imghost> puff, no comments, before seeing the outputs its useless to say
[19:07] <glitsj16> Guest27584: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings-331 and you should be good to go
[19:07] <Guest27584> thats great thank you
[19:07] <Wiz_KeeD> puff, 13.10 has bumblebee in the standard repositories
[19:07] <Wiz_KeeD> It should be as easy as apt-get purge bumblebee if there's an issue
[19:07] <Wiz_KeeD> Did miracles for me, also you can use vgaswitcharoo if it's supported by your system to stop your discrete video card
[19:07] <Wiz_KeeD> If that's your intention
[19:08] <ceciliasp> anybody?
[19:08] <Wiz_KeeD> ceciliasp, paste some errors, give some description
[19:09] <imghost> ceciliasp, are you trying to install fresh os?,
[19:09] <ceciliasp> ok, I´m running ubunutu 12-04 and windows 8. I was having some trouble booting so i tried a fresh install with a live ubs stick
[19:10] <queretaro> When adding static routes via "route add", what's the file the command is modifying? I tried /proc/net/route with no success
[19:10] <ceciliasp> the instal crashed and since then when I try to boot my computer i can only see a black screen with the grub> text
[19:10] <ceciliasp> I can´t even boot windows
[19:11] <ceciliasp> and the usb stick doesn´t seem to work anymore
[19:12] <ceciliasp> the black windows seems to be the GRUB menu. It says GNU GRUB version 1.99-2ubuntu3.10
[19:12] <imghost> ceciliasp, insert a live usb
[19:12] <ceciliasp> and it says Minimal Bash-like line editing is supported
[19:12] <puff> imghost: What outputs?
[19:13] <imghost> ceciliasp, insert the live usb of ubuntu and update your grub
[19:13] <puff> imghost: Hm, I guess I could upgrade to 13.10 and then try bumblebere.
 i´ll try to run from the usb
[19:13] <Kurvivor> hello
[19:13] <imghost> puff, no comments
[19:13] <imghost> ceciliasp, yes
[19:14] <ermiyas> .xsession-erros file keeps filling up
[19:14] <Kurvivor> what is the color behind background picture called?
[19:14] <puff> imghost: No comment about 13.10?
[19:14] <Kurvivor> when picture does not fill entire screen
[19:14] <imghost> puff, yes i use lts versions only
 I try to run the usb but when I get to the options screen and i press on try ubuntu nothing happens
[19:14] <Kurvivor> how can i set the color for remaining parts?
[19:15] <puff> imghost: Ah.  Yeah, me too, I moved from 12.04 to get my video-out working properly.
[19:15] <puff> imghost: Which I regret, but.
 just a black screen
[19:15] <puff> One of the things that bugs me the most about Unity is the way alt-tab works, is there a way to switch that back to the old style, where alt-tab just showed you all the windows instead of grouping them?
[19:16] <Guest43695> Well I'm back from installing the driver.  Had to reboot twice for it too work
[19:17] <glitsj16> Guest43695: you were the other numbered guest from a few minutes ago, the nvidia-331 attempt?
[19:17] <imghost> ceciliasp, u ve uefi default system?
[19:17] <puff> How do I add applets/widgets to the menu bar in unity?
[19:17] <Guest43695> Yes glitsj16
[19:18] <Guest43695> I've just installed 331.20 and took second reboot for it to work
[19:18] <Guest43695> I've noticed a decline in image quality when using Expo and the desktop switched is also not reporting all the desktops to switch too
[19:19] <glitsj16> Guest43695: and, any first attempts? i recall having that too yes, no idea why, i just did a new dkms build to make sure and then it kicked in (but i encounter glitches all the time in life lol, hence the nick)
 no. I can only see the grub>
[19:20] <glitsj16> Guest43695: have you tried the nvidia-settings to see if you can improve those yet?
[19:20] <imghost> ceciliasp, ok use cd to boot and then use boot-reoair to reinstall grub
[19:20] <Guest43695> yes i'm looking at them this minute the settings offer more options that the older veresion
[19:20] <imghost> boot-repair
[19:20] <Guest43695> so hopefully after a reboot these glitches will have passed
[19:20] <dveim> Hello
 in that same screen? (sorry, I´m a rookie in this)
[19:21] <Guest43695> and I shall try now lol
[19:21] <ceciliasp> I don´t have a cd reader... just a usb stick which is not working either
[19:22] <imghost> ceciliasp, ok so you have bootable usb right?
[19:22] <imghost> ceciliasp, insert it then under biod select usb to boot
[19:22] <xubuntu188> what is the path of the default desktop wallpaper
[19:22] <imghost> under bios
[19:23] <ceciliasp> imghost, yes but it´s not working. I can boot with the usb but then when I select Try Ubuntu or Install Ubuntu nothing happens.... just a black screen
[19:23] <onetinsoldier> xubuntu188: not certain, but probably /usr/share/wallpapers
[19:23] <dveim> i have installed ubuntu 13.10 on new laptop with nvidia
[19:23] <dveim> when i log in, everything is ok
[19:24] <imghost> ceciliasp, redownload it then
[19:24] <ceciliasp> imghost, ok I´m doing it right now. 12.04 64bits
[19:24] <imghost> ceciliasp, download only from ubuntu.com
[19:24] <dveim> but after i presses password, graphics disappears and and only alone mouse is on the display
[19:24] <ceciliasp> imghost, Is there any other way to boot at least to windows?
[19:25] <imghost> ceciliasp, after download use unetbootin to make a live usb
[19:25] <xubuntu188> there is no wallpapers on usr/share onetinsoldier
[19:25] <dveim> also, i think it is linked, the screen size is unnormally small
[19:25] <imghost> ceciliasp, yes you can insert the windows installer
[19:25] <dveim> what can you advise?
[19:25] <ceciliasp> imghost, i´ll look for unetbooting
[19:25] <imghost> ceciliasp, then repair the computer
[19:26] <onetinsoldier> xubuntu188: i don't know then
[19:26] <kevin_> Still having issues with Compiz on this I think is the problem
[19:26] <ceciliasp> imghost, unfortunatelly i don´t have windows installer. it´s a brand new laptop with no cd or usb file. i know there is a recovery partition though
[19:26] <imghost> ceciliasp, two way either download ubuntu again or if you have windows installer, point is we need to repair the computer thats all
[19:27] <dveim> hey, does someone have any ideas what should i do?
[19:27] <kevin_> There is without a doubt Image Qualit loss when zooming out into Expo - or Desktop Wall
[19:27] <juki> devim, you'll have to fill me in a little bit
[19:27] <onetinsoldier> xubuntu188: do you have the following package installed? --> ubuntu-wallpapers
[19:27] <kevin_> a blurriness that isnt there when using Nouveau
[19:27] <imghost> ceciliasp, why no backups?
[19:27] <dveim> juki: yes
[19:28] <xubuntu188> onetinsoldier: no
[19:28] <dveim> juki: i ll answer any questions
[19:28] <juki> I see you only have a blank desktop with only a cursor?
[19:28] <ceciliasp> imghost, sorry what do u mean with no backups? all my sensitive information is in a different partition
[19:28] <dveim> juki: yes
[19:28] <juki> when did it work last?
[19:28] <onetinsoldier> xubuntu188: i'm not sure where the default background wallpaper is at, probably not from that package either though. i'm trying to find it
[19:29] <imghost> ceciliasp, i mean why no recovery disks?
[19:29] <dveim> juki: on logging dialog
[19:29] <dveim> juki: when it asked to enter password
[19:29] <onetinsoldier> xubuntu188: do you have images in /usr/share/backgrounds ...?
[19:29] <juki> is this a new install? has it ever worked on this machine?
[19:29] <kevin_> and Nautilus goes blank when un-minimising
[19:30] <dveim> juki: actually it was
[19:30] <sennin> irc en español?
[19:30] <xubuntu188> yes onetinsoldier got them! tkanks so much
[19:30] <DJones> !es | sennin
[19:30] <imghost> ceciliasp, always keep an extra bootable pendrive for emerdencies
[19:30] <onetinsoldier> xubuntu188: you're welcome. cheers
[19:30] <dveim> juki: i tried to fix a bug with screen resolution, downloaded nvidia drivers, then rebooted
[19:31] <imghost> emergencies
[19:31] <dveim> juki: after the problem appeared
[19:31] <sennin> thank
[19:31] <glitsj16> kevin_: confused, the nvidia-331, is that you? otherwise please ignore, those guest.... nicks i will never get used to
[19:31] <jhutchins> ceciliasp: It's always a good idea to have backups on a seperate device.  Errors in partitioning could wipe out your data if it's on the same device.
[19:31] <ceciliasp_> imghost, gess so..
[19:31] <dveim> juki: i mean, after rebooting the problem appeared)
[19:31] <kevin_> Yes its me 331 driver guy
[19:31] <juki> ok, do you know specifically what nvidia drivers you downloaded?  177 maybe? do you know how to uninstall them?
[19:32] <imghost> jhutchins, exactly backups on physical device always helps us
[19:32] <dveim> juki: afaik i pressed apt-get install nvidia-drivers
[19:32] <juki> dveim: if you press ctrl+alt+f2 does it ask you to login?
[19:32] <sennin> nadie respone en el irc español
[19:32] <kevin_> Going to check image quality in a movie
[19:32] <dveim> juki: sec, i ll check
[19:32] <juki> looks almost HD from here kevin_!
[19:32] <jhutchins> If the device is removable, all the better.  That way you CAN'T wipe the data.
[19:32] <kevin_> lol
[19:33] <glitsj16> kevin_: okay :) have you tried ccsm to see what you can do? i'll be off for 5 minutes
[19:33] <kevin_> ok thanx glitsj16
 I also keep all my info on an external hard drive
[19:33] <glitsj16> kevin_: brb, very welcome
[19:34] <dveim> juki: when i presses ctrl+alt+f2 while system loading, nothing happened
[19:35] <dveim> juki: now there is a login dialog
[19:35] <ceciliasp_> jhutchins, what I don´t have is an image of my computer if that´s yourpoint
[19:35] <imghost> dveim, whats the issue?, like to share it?
[19:36] <sennin> fuck irc
[19:36] <xubuntu188> i wanna set my lockscreen to have se same background image as my desktop how can i do that
[19:36] <imghost> !ops | sennin
[19:36] <juki> dveim: ctrlaltf2 from login dialog
[19:36] <Beldar> long gone
[19:37] <dveim> imghost: after entering password in login dialog, all disappeares except mouse. Probably it is linked with nvidia drivers, because this problem started after i downloaded them and rebooted
[19:37] <Myrtti> imghost: a bit late for that
[19:37] <jhutchins> ceciliasp_: Something to consider is that typically a recovery partition will destroy any other OS installed on that disk and return it to factory status.
[19:37] <dveim> juki: nothing happens
[19:38] <imghost> Myrtti, ma bad :(, internet is slow now :(
[19:38] <juki> how about f1 dveim?
[19:38] <ceciliasp_> ok, wouldn´t mind that since I also keep a backup of my partitions on an external storage...All i want is my computer to boot again :(
[19:38] <jhutchins> dveim: Can you use Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get back to a console?
[19:38] <jhutchins> ceciliasp_: ok, sorry for the distraction.
[19:38] <jhutchins> !fixgrub
[19:38] <dveim> juki: after random F i got access to concole
[19:39] <rennat41> Hey, my system just broke trying to update to ubuntu 13.10. Any Idea how I can recover all of my files?
[19:39] <dveim> juki: so, now i am in
[19:39] <imghost> dveim, what version are you on?
[19:39] <juki> apt-get remove whatever killed it
[19:39] <dveim> imghost: 13.10
[19:39] <Beldar> rennat41, boot a live cd a access it.
[19:39] <Beldar> and*
[19:39] <glitsj16> kevin_: okay, back .. perhaps we can better go over to PM if you don't mind .. fiddling with settings might not be on-topic .. what do you think? no pressure, just a question
[19:39] <jhutchins> rennat41: "broke" allows for a fairly broad range of problems.  Could you be more specific?
[19:39] <rennat41> I need my root files. are they on there somewhere?
[19:39] <imghost> dveim, whats the output of cat /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[19:40] <dveim> juki: it was nvidia-current package, will remove it in a sec
[19:40] <dveim> imghost: sec
[19:40] <Beldar> rennat41, Yes, ans what will you do with them?
[19:40] <juki> dveim:
[19:40] <rennat41> I have no idea
[19:40] <juki> try imghost first
[19:40] <jhutchins> rennat41: On where?
[19:40] <rennat41> I had a local server running apache that I need
[19:40] <dveim> juki: y, thought same
[19:40] <Beldar> rennat41, Not much you can probably.
[19:41] <rennat41> That's highly unfortunate
[19:41] <onetinsoldier> rennat41: perhaps you could use a live cd to boot and then copy files to a usb stick or external hd?
[19:41] <dveim> imghost: /usr/sbin/lightdb
[19:41] <Beldar> rennat41, ah a server, you might ask in #ubuntu-server
[19:41] <DarkAceLaptop> is there some command I can run that will return the DE I'm currently running?
[19:41] <rennat41> okay thanks
[19:41] <ceciliasp_> imghost ok just finished configuring the live usb wish me luck
[19:41] <Beldar> rennat41, make sure you use nicks.
[19:42] <onetinsoldier> DarkAceLaptop: DE? i know i should know what that means, but i forget
[19:42] <dveim> so, what's now?
[19:42] <DarkAceLaptop> desktop environment
[19:42] <ceciliasp_> imghost, nothing....after selecting "Try ubuntu" the computer does nothing....
[19:42] <juki> what was the output of default display?
[19:43] <intrader> Anyone, how to 'get around' unity annoyance. VIM opens a window far from the left corner where unity puts its menu. Is there a workaround?
[19:43] <glitsj16> DarkAceLaptop: echo $DESKTOP_SESSION
[19:43] <DarkAceLaptop> very nice, thanks
[19:43] <dveim> juki: /usr/sbin/lightdb
[19:43] <glitsj16> DarkAceLaptop: if you get 'ubuntu' that's Unity
[19:44] <imghost> dveim, my net is very slow now , what is the output of cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[19:44] <dveim> juki: also some problems with network, even can't ping google
[19:44] <juki> lightdm dveim?
[19:44] <juki> hard wired network dveim?
[19:44] <jhutchins> rennat41: This isn't a server vs. desktop problem.
[19:44] <ActionParsnip> dveim: can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[19:44] <imghost> ceciliasp_, good luck and net is slow
[19:44] <dveim> juki: wifi, worked in login dialog
[19:44] <kevin_> wb glitsj16
[19:44] <dveim> ActionParsnip: Network is unreacheble
[19:45] <kevin_> Well DOTA2 works well some sound conflicts but framerate isnt bad
[19:45] <kevin_> video quality is fine
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> dveim: what network chip are you using?
[19:45] <pvl1> hey all, is there an ubuntu dev channel?
[19:45] <glitsj16> intrader: not familiar with VIM, but if it hasn't got settings for window placement you can use ccsm to put your window where you want i believe
[19:45] <ceciliasp_> imghost, I´m in the bios setup now. Can you point me boot options
[19:45] <dveim> imghost: there is no such file
[19:45] <juki> network manger hasn't picked up the stack yet dveim, hardwired would work from here
[19:45] <kevin_> so its really just the eye candy in Ubuntu - in particular CCSM
[19:46] <glitsj16> kevin_: hi again, abything usefull showed up yet to solve glitches?
[19:46] <dveim> ActionParsnip: how can i check that?
[19:46] <HassanJ> Does anyone happen to know of that PHP library which prevents integer fields from a MySQL table from returning as string.
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> dveim: sudo lshw -C network
[19:46] <HassanJ> I cannot happen to remember it.
[19:46] <imghost> ceciliasp_, under bios select usb to boot
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> HassanJ: i'd ask in #mysql
[19:47] <kevin_> at the moment having a look at various graphics applications to compare quality and performance
[19:47] <HassanJ> Okay, thanks.
[19:47] <ceciliasp_> imghost, i already tried that. when prompet with "Try Ubuntu" or "Install" nothing happens...just a black screen
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> ceciliasp_: what gpu do you use?
[19:47] <kermyt> hmm any idea why the last update broke my firefox? is anyone else experiencing major stability issues with FF recently?
[19:48] <imghost> dveim, paste the output of  cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[19:48] <glitsj16> kevin_: mostly eye-candy yes, but some settings do have nice positive impact, Sync to VBlank und unredirect fullscreen windows in particular
[19:48] <ceciliasp_> imghost sorry what is gpu?
[19:48] <jhutchins> ceciliasp_: That's often a sign that the boot image is not good.
[19:48] <dveim> ActionParsnip: and in what output you interested? There are 2 interfaces, ethernet and wireless
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> Kermyt: what about if you rename your Firefox config folder then rerun it?
[19:48] <dveim> imghost: no such file
[19:48] <kevin_> where do I sync to vblank?
[19:48] <imghost> ceciliasp_, graphics processing unit
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> dveim: well, how do you connect to the web. We obviosly want that one.
[19:48] <kermyt> ActionParsnip, I already tried a full FF reset and running with no plugins but it still freezez while loading about half of the internets
[19:49] <intrader> glitsj16, I will look up ccsm - never heard of it
[19:49] <imghost> dveim, paste the output on pastebin or go to paste.ubuntu.com
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> ceciliasp_: what the display unit (monito) connects to. The video card....
[19:49] <kermyt> most specifically it freezes loading FB
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> kermyt: tried a fresh ubuntu user?
[19:49] <glitsj16> kevin_: you can do that both in nvidia-settings (OpenGL pane i think and in ccsm in opengl or composite, not sure
[19:49] <kermyt> ActionParsnip, would a FF reset be the same thing?
[19:49] <kevin_> ahh ok thanks
[19:50] <ceciliasp_> imghost I finally got to make the usb work!
[19:50] <dveim> imghost: i'm talking here from another laptop, no connection on broken one
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> Kermyt: it will give vanilla DE settings etc too.
[19:50] <glitsj16> intrader: it's the compizconfig-settings-manager package, you might have to install that
[19:50] <kermyt> hmm I will try it
[19:50] <imghost> ceciliasp_, great
[19:50] <root> hi
[19:50] <Guest42579> hi
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> intrader: ccsm is known to cause issues with compiz
[19:50] <imghost> dveim, wihout seeing it how can we help us?
[19:51] <ceciliasp_> so, boot repair is not installed in the usb version. and it is not in the repositories...
[19:51] <Guest95857> salam
[19:51] <Guest95857> im maroc
[19:51] <dveim> ActionParsnip: via wireless worked... What param would you like to know?
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> !rootirc | Guest95857
[19:51] <Guest95857> speek arabe
[19:51] <dveim> imghost: i can repaste manually the output
[19:51] <kevin_> Yes Nvidia Settings are not holding after saving
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> Dveim: then which interface do you want to use which is giving you problems?
[19:52] <kermyt> ActionParsnip, ok first test I renamed my .mozilla folder and it still is broken I will try another user. but that seems rediculously extreme.
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> Kermyt: why extreme?
[19:52] <dveim> ActionParsnip: wireless, it worked in login dialog
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> Kermyt: users cost no money and it takes seconds to test.
[19:53] <Beldar> ceciliasp_, what is the issue you need bootrepair for?
[19:53] <kermyt> because I can't copy that setup into my current user and I don't want to have to use my browser in a different login than everything else.
[19:53] <geekstay> Hi everyone. I've some problem for annoting a pdf with adobe acrobat in Linux. It's written that commenting is not allowed (Linux), and on Windows, I can add comments (on the same pdf file). Could you tell we where the problem is please ?
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> Dveim: ok, what wifi chip are you using?
[19:53] <willwork4foo> Anyone else here use Oracle Beehive IM?
[19:53] <intrader> glitsj16, ccsm = CompositeManagerCopizFussion  - I don't have it installed; is it safe to install?
[19:53] <geekstay> (I know it exists other software, but I'm using both Linux and Windows, so adobe it's perfect for that.
[19:53] <ceciliasp_> Beldar, because my computer wont boot neither ubuntu nor windows
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> Geekstay: could try pdfedit
[19:54] <juki> so you can't uninstall the nvidia drivers because you have no connection dveim?
[19:54] <kermyt> oh... on a side note... whenefer FF hangs it leaves GST-scanner running endlessly inthe background
[19:54] <glitsj16> ActionParsnip: ccsm works without issues for me, granted that you're carefull with the Unity settings in there, and exporting your settings before fiddling around .. so intrader, that way be a wise idea before making changes in ccsm: go to the preferences and export your present settings before fiddling .. for placement of windows you should be safe according to me
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> Kermyt: are there bugs reported?
[19:54] <geekstay> ActionParnsip : I try it.
[19:54] <dveim> juki: uninstalled them a sec ago
[19:54] <kermyt> I have no idea ActionParsnip
[19:54] <dveim> juki: hope that helped
[19:54] <Beldar> ceciliasp_, save the boot info summary that is generated, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> glitsj16: there is a warning when you first run it, it's not there for laughs
[19:55] <glitsj16> intrader: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager is the .. install command yes
[19:55] <kermyt> this all just started after the last update so I assu7med it was an ubuntu issue
[19:55] <juki> and you have rebooted and things are still broken dveim?
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> kermyt: i suggest you report the issue.
[19:55] <ceciliasp_> Beldar, ok. I´m right on thatr page right now
[19:55] <dveim> juki: yes ;(
[19:55] <juki> and now can't install news ones becuase you have no connection dveim?
[19:55] <dveim> juki: y
[19:55] <kermyt> I suppose it could be KX studio but I don't know how much about FF KX alters.
[19:55] <glitsj16> ActionParsnip: i agree, intrader just wants to change a window placement for vim, shouldn't mess with unity i believe, caution is ofc allways wise
[19:56] <imghost> dveim, whats the output of apt-cache show lightdm?
[19:57] <glitsj16> intrader: there are other options for your vim window placement issue, whatever you feel comfortable with
[19:57] <ceciliasp_> imghost Bledar, strange...boot repair keeps telling me it need to unmount partitions..but it never ends
[19:57] <intrader> glitsj16, ActionParsnip: my laptop is fairly fast but runs hot when using video - I am afraid of compiz...
[19:57] <Beldar> ceciliasp_ what partitions are mounted?
[19:57] <juki> maybe try booting with the nomodeset option dveim?
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> Intrader: i hate compiz
[19:58] <kermyt> yep gst-plugin-scanner gets left running when FF zombies.
[19:58] <glitsj16> intrader: you can use devilspie and gdevilspie (a GUI for that) to set your window positioning instead of via ccsm
[19:58] <kermyt> and it's sucking up about half of my CPU
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> Intrader: if you use optimus then make sure you have bumblebee installed
[19:59] <glitsj16> intrader: i just mentioned ccsm because that's already installed and devilspie might be overkill for 1 rule, but it works
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> Kermyt: run: ubuntu-bug firefox ,and report the bug
[19:59] <Beldar> !tab | ceciliasp_
[19:59] <imghost> ceciliasp_, paste the output of "df"
[19:59] <kermyt> will do thank you ActionParsnip
[19:59] <dveim> juki: i ll try to reinstall ubuntu via dvd
[20:00] <dveim> juki: but its lame...
[20:00] <ceciliasp_> imghost how can i get that output
[20:00] <juki> you don't need a whole reinstall dveim, you just need to get the correct display drivers in there  I think
[20:00] <geekstay> ActionParnsip : It's compatible with Adobe acrobat ?
[20:00] <dveim> juki: how can i get them?
[20:00] <intrader> glitsj16, ActionParsnip: I hate 'feature' of Unity - have probles also with Eclipse menus - thanks guys maybe I fiddle with config of VIM
[20:00] <kermyt> hmm I don't seem to have ubuntu-bug installed
[20:00] <imghost> ceciliasp_, type df in terminal
[20:01] <imghost> !pastebin | ceciliasp
[20:01] <dveim> imghost: output is too big for paste, are you interested in a single parameter?
[20:01] <glitsj16> intrader: unity is but one of the DE options, you might want to check others in the regular repos
[20:01] <kermyt> wait the problem just went away for some reason
[20:01] <juki> i think you hit "b" or "e" when the grub menu appears and add the "nomodeset" option to the boot string.  it should start it in a safe mode that will let you get to your wifi and grab the correct drivers
[20:01] <imghost> !pastebin | dveim
[20:01] <kermyt> now I can't seem to reproduce it
[20:02] <dveim> oh, wifi appeared
[20:02] <ceciliasp_> imghost irc running in difft computer
[20:02] <dveim> imghost: sec, i ll do that
[20:02] <ceciliasp_> imghost, what part of df output do we need
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> Intrader: i prefer openbox. It doesnt crash nearly as much
[20:03] <imghost> ceciliasp_, The column headed "Mounted On" will have a "/"
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> glitsj16: unity isnt a DE. It is a shell. You can run Unity on top of any DE you want
[20:03] <intrader> glitsj16, ActionParsnip: in general I like the launcher; although it does not work properly to set up a new application; for example to install freemind on the launcher I could not do it and wound up with an icon on the desktop.
[20:03] <geekstay> ActionParsnip : How could it solve problem I can't comment with adobe ?
[20:04] <imghost> ceciliasp_, and you need to unmount that partitions after that use boot repair
[20:04] <ActionParsnip> Geekstay: try pdfedit is all i can suggest. Not something i use
[20:04] <ceciliasp_> imghost yes, I can see the /
[20:04] <glitsj16> intrader: running hot while using video .. perhaps you need to look at using a player with VDPAU support (assuming you have nvidia) and choosing that as video output
[20:04] <kermyt> lol thank you ActionParsnip for your help. this bug has vanished just as mesteriously as it started.
[20:04] <ceciliasp_> imghost how can I unmount the partitions?
[20:05] <geekstay> ActionParsnip : Ohw OK, thanks for the idea :).
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> kermyt: sweet :-)
[20:05] <intrader> ActionParsnip, does openbox run on ubuntu 12.04?
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> Intrader: yes, why would it not?
[20:06] <imghost> ceciliasp_, umount /dev/sdx
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> Intrader: openbox is the default WM of Lubuntu, which has a 12.04 release (but is not LTS until 14.04)
[20:07] <intrader> glitsj16, I have had the running hot problem for a long time without solution; as soon as the view window is more than 1/4 of screen - HEAT
[20:07] <imghost> ceciliasp_, its 1.36am here and my net is very slow sorry for late replys m sleepy now
[20:07] <glitsj16> intrader: with different players and different video output settings?
[20:08] <intrader> ActionParsnip, hopefully stable - I have had problems since 10.04 with stability and heat
[20:09] <ceciliasp_> imghost I can see sda4 sda5 sda6 sda2 sda1 sda2 again and sda9 all umounted
[20:09] <dveim> juki: the last command before the problem was /etc/init.d/lightdm restart
[20:09] <intrader> glitsj16, well, if I open a page with youtube, how do I select viewer?
[20:09] <dveim> juki: mb i can simple start it?
[20:10] <pvl1> is there a way to make a tty appear on my second monitor
[20:10] <juki> yes dveim "sudo service lightdm restart"
[20:10] <juki> or /etc/init.d/lightdm restart but it's deprecating
[20:11] <intrader> glitsj16, any player; as long as more than 1/4 of screen is the viewing field - full screen is a killer
[20:11] <glitsj16> intrader: there are some very nice greasemonkey scripts around to NOT use flash plugin on youtube (and other sites), so you tax your cpu less and use your gpu
[20:11] <imghost> ceciliasp_, now install boot repair
[20:11] <ceciliasp_> imghost originally ubuntu whas installed on sda7 but now I see that is a 1 mb part (bios_grub)
[20:11] <dveim> juki: hmm, after service lightdm restart it throw me to login dialog
[20:11] <Meris> I'm having trouble starting Ubuntu 13.10 64bit, after install on a Sony Vaio Pro 13(UEFI, Win8.1. DualBoot, SecureBoot off). After installation, Windows started again as if GRUB2 wasn't installed. To correct this I used Yannubuntu's boot-repair, first recommended settings, rename Windows, partitions, which yielded this log:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6570083/ Afterwards I chose the recommend settings with renaming the Windows partitions.
[20:11] <Meris>  That yielded this log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6570132. At that point Windows 8.1 didn't boot anymore, but I got no grub and no ubuntu  After that I restored the original efi partitions that were backed in attempt 1, which yielded: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6574110. I tried libata.force=noncq as suggested by http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2192179&highlight=sony+vaio+pro but even that won't help showing grub, let alone booting
[20:11] <Meris> ubuntu proper.
[20:11] <FloodBot1> Meris: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:11] <inspiron> hi
[20:11] <juki> what happens if you try and login dveim?
[20:11] <dveim> juki: and then, after logining, problem didn't disapperead
[20:12] <inspiron> where is the file to add kernel boot parameters? This is the same file that is temporarily edited when you press 'e' at startup
[20:12] <rennat41> Hi, my computer broke while updating ubuntu so now I need to recover files from my Wubi install.
[20:12] <glitsj16> intrader: what player do you use as your number one stop? viewtube is the name btw of one of the greasemonkey scripts for youtube, works in firefox, chrome/chromium etc
[20:12] <rootpt> i've got this machine with windows and one machine with ubuntu installed in virtualbox, how can a sen a message through the cmd (network) to the machine with ubuntu in the same network ?
[20:12] <inspiron> it use to be the menu.lst file
[20:12] <rootpt> send*
[20:12] <inspiron> and also used to be the grub.conf
[20:12] <dveim> juki: nothing changed
[20:13] <juki> do you have any other options for desktop sessions? try one of them maybe?
[20:13] <ceciliasp_> imghost it´s like they keep mounting!
[20:13] <imghost> good night all, dveim you did not paste the outputs sad :(
[20:13] <dveim> imghost: googling how to do it via command line
[20:13] <intrader> glitsj16, psensors used to show me gpu%, but it showed even greater utilization. Maybe there is a temperature sensor for the gpu?
[20:14] <juki> dveim: apt-get install pastebinit
[20:14] <intrader> glitsj16, I open the viewere automatically from firefox or chrome (mostly firefox)
[20:15] <dveim> juki: done
[20:15] <dveim> juki: and what after? I copied output into file
[20:16] <intrader> glitsj16, psensor show 100C for either cpu - pretty hot
[20:16] <glitsj16> intrader: for gpu temp you can keep an eye on that with nvidia-settings, i usually run a custom session where i don't use unity but cairo-dock, has great sensors support for pretty much all hardware devices
[20:16] <dveim> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6574354/
[20:16] <glitsj16> intrader: yes indeed
[20:17] <dveim> imghost: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6574354/
[20:17] <glitsj16> intrader: always very difficult to diagnose where the actual problem resides as well ..
[20:17] <ceciliasp_> imghost http://paste.ubuntu.com/6574355
[20:17] <inspiron> found it
[20:18] <intrader> glitsj16, I could go back to 9.04...:)
[20:18] <kevin_> VDPAU is only available in VLC 2.1?
[20:19] <willwork4foo> Hi all - I'm trying to use a Jabber XMPP account that I have set up and working fine in Pidgin, but I can't make it work properly in Telepathy. I'm connecting to an Oracle beehive IM server
[20:19] <intrader> glitsj16, and just to nail unity more, on windows XP I don't experience the overheating - it must be the driver for the nvidia
[20:19] <ceciliasp_> anyone can give me a hand with this boot info http://paste.ubuntu.com/6574355
[20:19] <glitsj16> intrader: you can look at using gecko-mediaplayer (firefox and chrome multimedia plugin) and gnome-mplayer for instance if you want to try youtube from a native player instead of flash
[20:19] <glitsj16> intrader: could very well be yes
[20:20] <glitsj16> kevin_: ^^ gecko-media-player and mplayer in general has great VDPAU support
[20:20] <kevin_> Thought VLC was the number 1 choice i'll try gecko
[20:20] <juki> dveim: cat /path/to/text/file | pastebinit
[20:21] <dveim> juki: y, done that, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6574354/
[20:21] <intrader> glitsj16, youtube settings now route to HTML5 viewer. But the heating problem goes back before I set the option of not using flash
[20:22] <glitsj16> kevin_: for nvidia my experiences are very different, mplayer runs at 3-4 % cpu if you set video output to vdpau
[20:22] <kevin_> ok
[20:22] <juki> dveim: install e17 and see if it works
[20:23] <glitsj16> intrader: if you have that since 9.04 it's probably not youtube, or flash, but it might improve things, testing is the only way to find out i guess
[20:24] <glitsj16> intrader: minitube in in the repos as well as a standalone option for youtube, or smtube (which is not in the repos) .. both avoid flash
[20:24] <glitsj16> !find minitube
[20:25] <glitsj16> :)
[20:25] <glitsj16> !info minitube
[20:26] <juki> dveim: lspci  -mm | grep VGA
[20:26] <intrader> glitsj16, I have been searching for solution since unity (a long time) - like I said youtube avoids flash by setting to HTML5
[20:26] <dveim> juki: ok
[20:26] <glitsj16> intrader: oh missed that
[20:26] <intrader> glitsj16, np
[20:27] <glitsj16> intrader: do other linux distros also show the overheating issue?
[20:28] <intrader> glitsj16, not that I remember - I was running a fedora with no overheating
[20:28] <cGull> hi, i have some trouble booting ubuntu, is it ok to ask for help here?
[20:28] <daftykins> !ask | cGull
[20:29] <dveim> juki: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6574417
[20:29] <intrader> glitsj16, glib solution - run windows XP in window on ubuntu -- he he
[20:29] <juki> intel chips don't need nvidia drivers?
[20:30] <cGull> I'm building a litecoin mining rig, i'm using 12.04 on a usb stick, i got it to work with 1 gpu (7990) but when i added another one today, my system won't boot, i see the loading screen then it goes blank, is there anyway i can "safe-mode" or "command-line" start it?
[20:30] <glitsj16> intrader: http://www.upubuntu.com/2011/10/how-to-monitor-hardware-temperatures-on.html might be usefull to at least keep a close eye on GPU temp .. heh, nice one
[20:31] <glitsj16> intrader: perhaps you need to file a bug if you haven't already, or look into existing ones
[20:31] <daftykins> cGull: hold left shift on startup, you should see a GRUB menu that'll offer some choices
[20:31] <moje> .
[20:32] <dveim> juki: dont know
[20:32] <dveim> juki: btw, installed e17
[20:33] <cGull> daftykins: wonderful thanks! this is the first time i'm trying anything like this so the learning curve is steep, i'll go try it out
[20:33] <glitsj16> intrader: need to get some food, nice talking to you and all the best with the issue(s)
[20:33] <intrader> glitsj16, for a long time.... I have been after this problem for ever... It got bad with Unity big time
[20:33] <juki> dveim: from the login screen there should be a new desktop option other than lighdm
[20:33] <juki> dveim: use service restart lightdm to drop back to the login screen
[20:34] <glitsj16> intrader: well, if fedora doesn't show it, and it was my machine, i'd switch
[20:34] <intrader> glitsj16, i will install the sensor - how do I avoid psensor starting?
[20:35] <glitsj16> intrader: i don't know if they would interfere, just monitors .. but hang on, let me check
[20:36] <dveim> juki: suddenly it said "restart: unrecognized service"
[20:37] <juki> can you get to the login screen?
[20:37] <JVB> i have someting changed wit the terminal and now : i can not created maps,files ... how i can resolved this problem ?
[20:37] <glitsj16> intrader: looks like psensor uses a stanza in your 'startup applications' .. you can uncheck it there temporarily
[20:38] <intrader> glitsj16, you know - basically I like the ubuntu worldwide theme - not corporatish like red hat.. oh well
[20:38] <matzzz> hey can anyone help? I have nvidia SLI. when i use only one GPU the machine works fine. If i plug in the second gpu it reboots after the Ubuntu splash screen
[20:38] <tsnyph> hey guys. have a bit of a problem with openshot. When i record my desktop with kazam, it looks ok. Once i run it through openshot, the finished product looks all distorted and lines through the text. here is a picture of what i'm talking about http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=677b7b&s=5#.UqzBcqH0HUE
[20:38] <glitsj16> intrader: i don't like corporatism neither, no need to hide that lol
[20:39] <dveim> juki: seems like no... I ll try reboot again
[20:40] <glitsj16> intrader: fedora is not the only distro, manjaro (based on arch) is also very nice .. stumach is really calling for attention heh, have a nice (hot) weekend
[20:40] <Calinou> matzzz, you probably don't want to use SLI anyway... it causes bigger frametimes and input lag
[20:41] <dveim> juki: after reboot nothing changed
[20:41] <matzzz> Calinou: You say it doesn't work on Ubuntu?
[20:41] <intrader> glitsj16, you too - I will look into what ActionParsnip indicated: openbox for the menus problem in VIM and Eclipse - have a good weekend. I am hungry!!!
[20:41] <Calinou> it does work using the nvidia driver, but it requires some setup I think
[20:41] <Calinou> SLI also has downsides as I said
[20:42] <Calinou> so if it doesn't work, don't be so sad
[20:42] <juki> dveim, you need to select enlightenment from the login screen
 intrader: fedora is not the only distro, manjaro (based on arch) is also very nice .. stumach is really calling for attention heh, have a nice (hot) weekend
[20:42] <Calinou> glitsj16, spare us that crap
[20:42] <dveim> juki: no such option
[20:43] <matzzz> Calinou: Would you know how to get it working? Or would you know where I should ask?
[20:43] <dveim> juki: but e17 is installed
[20:43] <juki> there should be a dropdown menu of some sort on your login screen dveim
[20:43] <Calinou> maybe someone here knows, but I don't
[20:45] <Alpha_Omega> Hello! Is there a IRC program for ubuntu 6.06?
[20:45] <tsnyph> xchat
[20:45] <SchrodingersScat> Alpha_Omega: there are many, xchat, irssi, weetchat, etc. etc.
[20:45] <SchrodingersScat> Alpha_Omega: *weechat
[20:46] <Alpha_Omega> what's the command line to download and install? I'm still a noob.
[20:46] <Calinou> 6.06?!
[20:46] <tsnyph> Alpha_Omega,  should be in the software center
[20:46] <Calinou> sudo apt-get install <package name>
[20:46] <dveim> juki: can't see it
[20:47] <Calinou> Alpha_Omega, why are you using 6.06
[20:47] <matzzz> Alpha_Omega: try "sudo apt-get install xchat" but not sure about ubuntu 6
[20:47] <Alpha_Omega> yeah. It's a pentium 2 so it runs the terminal edition
[20:47] <jhutchins> matzzz: Yes, that hasn't changed.
[20:47] <matzzz> Alpha_Omega: err terminal client irc? ok that's different . you should have said.
[20:47] <Alpha_Omega> ah, my mistake. I wasn't sure 6.06 had a gui
[20:47] <jhutchins> Alpha_Omega: You'll probably want irssi then, it's a terminal-based client.
[20:47] <Calinou> any ubuntu version had a GUI
[20:48] <Calinou> Alpha_Omega, you could run ubuntu server if you want a supported OS
[20:48] <intrader> Alpha_Omega, I am running 12.04 on a Dell Inspiron 8200 with Pentium 2
[20:48] <Calinou> or Lubuntu
[20:48] <SchrodingersScat> Alpha_Omega: you can do a 'apt-cache search irc.client' and you should get a quick list.
[20:48] <jhutchins> Good grief folks, Debian doesn't predate the GUI.
[20:49] <juki> post /etc/X11/default-display-manager again dveim
[20:49] <jhutchins> One of Ubuntu's goals has been to transition to a completely GUI managed system.
[20:49] <SchrodingersScat> jhutchins: sounds terrible
[20:49] <Alpha_Omega> beautiful. This is the MOST helpful irc channel I've ever been on
[20:49] <jhutchins> SchrodingersScat: Well, yes, but it is.
[20:50] <dveim> juki: found it, i'm stupid ...
[20:50] <dveim> juki: enlightment worked
[20:50] <matzzz> jhutchins: for the end user, only i assume? i dont see the need for GUI on most servers
[20:50] <dveim> juki: choosing language now
[20:50] <jhutchins> SchrodingersScat: We're already seeing "power users" and "administrators" who don't know how to fix or configure things if the GUI isn't working.
[20:51] <matzzz> jhutchins: well they just re-image their VMs and problem solved :-)
[20:51] <jhutchins> matzzz: Ubuntu reall isn't focused on servers, but even there.  A lot of neophytes are relying on GUI tools to administer servers.
[20:51] <matzzz> jhutchins: i "blame" VMs and restore CDs for the lower quality of the average tech these days
[20:52] <Alpha_Omega> SchrodingersScat: that command turned a blank result.
[20:52] <tsnyph> hey guys. have a bit of a problem with openshot. When i record my desktop with kazam, it looks ok. Once i run it through openshot, the finished product looks all distorted and lines through the text. here is a picture of what i'm talking about http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=677b7b&s=5#.UqzBcqH0HUE
[20:52] <matzzz> jhutchins: if they want to pay extra on their VM for the GUI, that's fine with me , i have shares in cloud providers :-)
[20:52] <jhutchins> Alpha_Omega: Give irssi a try - it's pretty much the standard for console irc.
[20:53] <Alpha_Omega> sudo apt-get install irssi ?
[20:53] <SchrodingersScat> Alpha_Omega: yep, that should install irssi
[20:53] <Alpha_Omega> thanks, I'll try it out
[20:53] <unknwn_> anyone got a good tip for ati drivers?
[20:54] <unknwn_> even qt creator wont work because something shitty is wronge with the drivers
[20:54] <tsnyph> linux + ati = bad. intel + nvidia = nothing better than this
[20:54] <onetinsoldier> unknwn_: people will need a more descriptive explanation of what the problem is
[20:54] <Alpha_Omega> return couldn't find packagae irssi
[20:54] <matzzz> tsnyph: except ati is 3x faster for bitcoin
[20:54] <ikonia> optimus cards are still problematic
[20:55] <ikonia> so nvidia/intel combinations are not something I'd push at this time
[20:55] <dveim> juki: thanks a lot for help! Is it another DE?
[20:55] <unknwn_> well the drivers that i get from ubuntu are all somehow screwed
[20:55] <unknwn_> gl isn't working at all
[20:55] <onetinsoldier> unknwn_: "doesn't work", and "scewed" iare pretty vague
[20:55] <onetinsoldier> screwed*
[20:55] <unknwn_> can't find the ql drivers
[20:56] <unknwn_> gl
[20:56] <SchrodingersScat> Alpha_Omega: apt-cache search irssi ?  it's in my main, so shouldn't need to add repos..
[20:56] <unknwn_> for some reason
[20:56] <matzzz> So does anyone know how to fix my SLI problem? When 2nd card is inserted, machine reboots after ubuntu splash screen. With only one card, it's all fine.
[20:56] <juki> it's not a desktop, it's a window manager... maybe now you can get to restricted drivers manager and clear up the nvidia thing
[20:56] <jhutchins> Alpha_Omega: You do have a valid network connection, right?
[20:56] <onetinsoldier> unknwn_: after installing the drivers, you need to run the following command, and then reboot --> sudo aticonfig --initial
[20:57] <juki> dveim: ^^
[20:57] <Alpha_Omega> yeah, my google ping worked
[20:57] <unknwn_> ok gonna try that thanks onetinsoldier
[20:57] <madprops> hi
[20:57] <onetinsoldier> unknwn_: you're welcome.. good luck
[20:57] <madprops> can someone tell me the name of the network manager that ships with ubuntu? is networkmanager still mantained?
[20:57] <Jdar3> I'm having problems installing on my windows 8 laptop, the disc or usb installer loads the GRUB menu, but no selections work (install,verify,etc) it just blanks the screen
[20:57] <ikonia> madprops: network manager is very much maintained
[20:58] <madprops> ikonia: is it the same as network-manager?
[20:58] <ikonia> madprops: yes
[20:58] <jhutchins> madprops: Yes.
[20:59] <matzzz> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/dapper/i386/irssi
[20:59] <koell> someone here using pcmanfm as file manager?
[20:59] <intrader> glitsj16, no configuration for indicator-sensors - how do I uninstall?
[21:00] <juki> have used pcmanfm before koell
[21:00] <matzzz> koell: i have used it, but nor currently
[21:00] <puff> @rn
[21:00] <Meris> I'm having trouble booting after installing Ubuntu and trying to correct it with boot-repair http://paste.ubuntu.com/6574110/  (UEFI, Dual boot with Win8.1.) Windows starts, but deosn't even show.
[21:00] <matzzz> koell: it's the standard file manager in lubuntu, whch i used for a year
[21:00] <jhutchins> Alpha_Omega: does sudo apt-get update work?
[21:00] <koell> im using in currently in lubuntu but cant delete files via smb on my ubuntu server. not tried thunar and everything works fine. but i would like to stay on pcmanfm :(
[21:01] <Beldar> Meris, Did you resize windows from the ubuntu install?
[21:01] <Meris> Beldar, no I resized using the native disk manager from within Windows
[21:02] <Meris> Beldar, by the way, it's Ubuntu 13.10 64 bits
[21:02] <DrGrov> ikonia: I wonder since you mention Optimus cards. My missus got 12.04 running on her Samsung laptop that has Optimus. Should I be worried when installing 13.10 64-bit for her? She is not playing though.
[21:02] <matzzz> koell: OK i can confirm pcman does have that functionality, so your problem is one of fixig a configuration and not changing an FM
[21:02] <ikonia> DrGrov: depends what you mean by worried and how you are using the card
[21:02] <matzzz> koell: How are you connecting to the windows share?
[21:02] <koell> matzzz: so u can delete files via smb in pcmanfm?
[21:03] <ikonia> koell: that has nothing to do with the file manager
[21:03] <ikonia> koell: samba is totally seperate, a samba file system is just a disk mounted to a file manager
[21:03] <matzzz> koell: it should not depend on the file manager, how are you mounting or connecting?
[21:03] <koell> matzzz: i installed ubuntu server 32 bit 12.04 on my old netbook. now accessing via pcmanfm try to delete a file there but no context menu. with thunar it works
[21:03] <Alpha_Omega> jhutchins: 404 not found: IP[91.189.91.14.80]
[21:03] <koell> matzzz i connect via samba/smb in address bar
[21:03] <matzzz> koell: how are you connecting? 3rd time :-)
[21:04] <Jdar3> (repeating self, went off screen)I'm having problems installing on my windows 8 laptop, the disc or usb installer loads the GRUB menu, but no selections work (install,verify,etc) it just blanks the screen
[21:04] <Beldar> Meris, is MokManager.efi a 3rd party?
[21:04] <koell> ikonia: it hast to do with it, in thunar it works.
[21:04] <DrGrov> ikonia: She is mainly doing surfing on the web, LibreOffice stuff and not much more. Worried if the card is "too old" to work properly in 13.10.
[21:04] <matzzz> koell: ok sorry for yelling, i missed your response
[21:04] <ikonia> koell: no, it doesn't
[21:04] <Meris> Beldar, yes it is, it is an internal name of a Sony restore partition.
[21:04] <nOob> Is unix a kernel or an operating system itself?
[21:05] <koell> hmm i may just stick with thunar. :)
[21:05] <ikonia> DrGrov: optimus cards are new, too old is certainly not a problem
[21:05] <ikonia> n0n0: this channel is #ubuntu for ubuntu linux discussion, not Unix
[21:05] <juki> how about nautilus koell?
[21:05] <Meris> n0ob, actually unix is a family of OS'es
[21:05] <DrGrov> ikonia: Okay, that I could have phrased better :) I meant unsupported due to the fact it is an Optimus card.
[21:05] <juki> is not lightweight?
[21:05] <koell> juki: not tried before on lubuntu.
[21:05] <ikonia> DrGrov: if it's working now, you've got solid odds with you that it will be 2ok" going forward,
[21:05] <Effex> I have a machine running 13.04 that doesn't respond to pings from other machines on the local network, unless the 13.04 machine in question is pinging the other machine first. Is this an arp issue? Any idea how to solve it?
[21:06] <Beldar> Meris, Ah just wondering I have not seen if before, you might post the bootinfo here for secondary help if none here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post10871917
[21:06] <herpderphurr> Hey everyone. I wanna try a tiling window manager. Got any recommendations?
[21:06] <glitsj16> intrader: back .. i installed it just now, works ok here .. i pulled the .deb from the PPA and went through the preferences ... does it not start for you?
[21:06] <spsful> Does anyone know how to search directly for specific words or letters in a webpage?
[21:06] <koell> herpderphurr: i3
[21:06] <Beldar> spsful, ctrl-f
[21:06] <spsful> Thanks
[21:06] <ikonia> spsful: the "find" function in the browser ?
[21:07] <matzzz> koell: there is no reason i can think of why it shouldnt work, if you are connecting the same way with the same credentials
[21:07] <koell> matzzz: yeah thats the weird thing. ROFL
[21:07] <DrGrov> ikonia: Okay, that is good. 12.04 works well but she is complaining when looking at my 13.10 install and how I have it set up. She wants the same :)
[21:07] <Starvisitor> Hello im trying to install a more recent ati linux driver. Are the drivers in the Ubuntu PPA more recent then the default ones provided?
[21:07] <ikonia> Starvisitor: depends on the PPA - there are many PPA's
[21:07] <DrGrov> ikonia: But I will install 13.04 for her anyhow. I want to have a nice non-update cycle again for a year or two :)
[21:08] <herpderphurr> koell: Thanks. I'll try it out
[21:08] <spsful> quit
[21:08] <Beldar> Meris, I see this at the end of the script, might be relevant. Please do not forget to make your BIOS boot on sda3/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi file!
[21:08] <spsful> sorry
[21:08] <matzzz> koell: are you sure the username/password/ipaddress etc is the same, and have you double checked the server permissions?
[21:08] <Starvisitor> ikonia, the launchpad PPA https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/saucy/+source/fglrx-installer-updates
[21:08] <ikonia> Starvisitor: check the package versions
[21:08] <koell> matzzz: i may try it tomorrow again, late here :)
[21:09] <Starvisitor> ikonia, the package version does no coincide with the ati driver version so its a bit confusing
[21:09] <koell> matzzz: but many thanks for ur help!
[21:09] <ikonia> Starvisitor: not really, the package versions such match either a) the ati packages b.) the open driver packages c.) the ubuntu versions
[21:09] <juki> maybe you need the nouveau driver dveim
[21:09] <ikonia> Starvisitor: there should also be information on the PPA's web page showing what they contain, if not contact the PPA maintainer and ask for clarification
[21:10] <Starvisitor> ikonia, thank you very much I thought it would be alot more simple. =P
[21:11] <unknwn> yeah onetinsoldier unfortunatly no success :(
[21:11] <dveim> juki: is default nvidia bad?
[21:12] <juki> using e17 is a workaround, but you should get your gdm working i think
[21:12] <Meris> Beldar, yes I have noticed, but I cannot find any option within my BIOS that looks even remotely like it would set that /sda3/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi file to be bootable. I'm not sure how to proceed. I wonder, should I just install grub2 to the root partition of my ubuntu install and chainload it from the Windows boot manager?
[21:12] <dveim> juki: btw, in e17 screen size is too small, like was in unity =(
[21:12] <juki> meris fdisk /dev/sda
[21:12] <onetinsoldier> unknwn: no? hmmm. what do you get from the following command? --> grep card0 /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:13] <juki> but maybe isn't the video driver, if you're currently using a gui dveim
[21:13] <Beldar> Meris, I would use that thread, it is the bootrepair developer, and several others focused on these dualboots, don't do anything you are not sure of.
[21:13] <unknwn> onetinsoldier i get this
[21:13] <unknwn> [     5.038] ukiOpenDevice: node name is /dev/ati/card0
[21:13] <unknwn> [     5.244] ukiOpenDevice: node name is /dev/ati/card0
[21:13] <unknwn> [     5.244] ukiOpenDevice: node name is /dev/ati/card0
[21:13] <unknwn> [     5.790] ukiOpenDevice: node name is /dev/ati/card0
[21:13] <FloodBot1> unknwn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:13] <Beldar> Meris, Did you backup the windows?
[21:13] <dveim> juki: sounds logically, but dunno what else
[21:13] <Alpha_Omega> I'm going to play with it for a while and see what I can find out. I'll return if I have more questions or have a solution to share
[21:14] <madprops> ikonia jhutchins do you know how i can fire app network manager, i just installed it manually using dpkg -i but networkmanager or network-manager are not working
[21:14] <Starvisitor> how can I tell if im running the 64bit version of ubuntu?
[21:14] <Meris> juki, you want me to pastebin the output of fdisk /dev/sda? Beldar, yes I did a backup of Windows
[21:14] <dveim> juki: in unity, i played with possible screen resolutions, and noone was ok
[21:14] <ikonia> madprops: it's installed by default, why are you installing it yourself
[21:14] <madprops> ikonia: long story
[21:14] <ikonia> madprops: why are you not using the repo and using dpkg
[21:14] <Meris> juki, I ḿ restarting to the Ubuntu Live env. now, just a sec.
[21:14] <jhutchins> madprops: There are two components, the service and an applet in the destop.  It should be set up to start at boot and should actually be started when installed.
[21:15] <madprops> i have no internet
[21:15] <IdleOne> Starvisitor: in terminal type: uname -a -- if you see X_64 in the output you are running 64 bit ubuntu
[21:15] <jhutchins> madprops: ps ax | grep net
[21:15] <onetinsoldier> unknwn: you'll need to use a paste website, or /msg me
[21:15] <jhutchins> madprops: Sudo of course.
[21:15] <glitsj16> intrader: feel free to pm me, i'm in & out of the kitchen though .. cravings heh
[21:15] <madprops> jhutchins: it says something about netns
[21:16] <Starvisitor> IdleOne, x86_64 is that the same as 64bit?
[21:16] <IdleOne> Starvisitor: that is right
[21:16] <Starvisitor> IdleOne, tyvm
[21:16] <juki> Meris: i don't think bios is responsible for setting bootable flags, you can mark a partition bootable using fdisk
[21:16] <IdleOne> sure thing
[21:16] <madprops> jhutchins: what is the name of the applet?
[21:16] <jhutchins> madprops: How about service network-manager start?
[21:17] <madprops> jhutchins: service already running
[21:17] <Meris> juki, it is a gpt partitioning scheme, so fdisk won't work here, here's the output of sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda: /dev/sda1 1 500118191 250059095+ ee GPT
[21:17] <madprops> i have wicd but it is not connecting to my router for some reason
[21:18] <jhutchins> madprops: You can't have both wicd and network-manager.
[21:18] <Meris> juki, I can use gparted instead, which will show me the rest of the partitions within the gpt.
[21:19] <juki> meris, fdisk will work
[21:20] <juki> you can change partition boot flags from fdisk
[21:20] <madprops> jhutchins: ok i stopped wicd
[21:20] <Meris> juki, apart from the output I've just shown you, it doesn't seem to show anything, it even recommends you to use gparted instead
[21:20] <juki> but you may not need to for what you're having issues with
[21:20] <madprops> jhutchins: what package contains the gtk applet?
[21:20] <jhutchins> madprops: Sorry, I don't know for gnome.  It should have come in as a dependency.
[21:20] <sps> How do you go to the top result in google search by solely using the keyboard?
[21:21] <madprops> jhutchins: im on openbox though
[21:21] <hakeem> madprops, are u trying to conenct via wlan or eth ?
[21:21] <madprops> hakeem: wlan
[21:22] <hakeem> madprops, u are trying to connect via wifi or cable?
[21:22] <Meris> q
[21:22] <madprops> hakeem: wifi
[21:22] <Meris> sorry about that, wrong keyboard^\
[21:22] <andy__> wats the command to join channels ?
[21:22] <madprops> hakeem: wicd doesn't work and i can't start the networkm-manager gui
[21:22] <hakeem> madprops,  so try sudo dhcpclient wlan0
[21:22] <sps> does anybody know how to go to the top search result in google by only using the keyboard?
[21:22] <SchrodingersScat> andy__: can try '/join #channel'
[21:23] <sps> Does anybody know?
[21:23] <madprops> hakeem: command not found
[21:24] <juki> tab sps?
[21:24] <zykotick9> madprops: it's dhclinet
[21:24] <sps> I am so stupid. Thanks juki
[21:24] <hakeem> madprops, really? u don't have a dhcp client?
[21:24] <ceciliasp_> hi there...massive crash can anyone help? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6574355
[21:25] <zykotick9> hakeem: it's dhclient
[21:25] <SchrodingersScat> sps: http://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/matching/google-feeling-lucky/Z29vZ2xlIGZlZWxpbmcgbHVja3k=/sort-by-votes
[21:25] <madprops> zykotick9: it just hangs in there
[21:25] <DrGrov> ikonia: Thanks for the clarification into a future install :)
[21:25] <hakeem> zykotick9, yes i typed it wrong
[21:25] <madprops> it's a wpa passphrase access point btw zykotick9 hakeem
[21:25] <zykotick9> madprops: i'm just correcting the command, i have no idea what you're doing - wasn't following
[21:25] <hakeem> madprops, wait for it a little while
[21:26] <madprops> hakeem: will it offer it a way to provide a password?
[21:26] <madprops> zykotick9: do you know how i can install the network-manager applet gui?
[21:27] <zykotick9> madprops: i don't touch N-M with a 30 foot pole, i have no idea.  good luck.  nm-applet perhaps?
[21:27] <madprops> zykotick9: there's no package named nm-applet
[21:27] <glitsj16> madprops: it's in network-manager-gnome
[21:28] <zykotick9> madprops: looks like glitsj16 has the package name, or try "apt-cache search nm-applet"
[21:28] <intrader> glitsj16, I did a sudo purge ... how do I remove the ppa?
[21:29] <zykotick9> !ppa-purge | intrader
[21:29] <ceciliasp_> hi there. Massive crash. can´t boot. Here´s boot repair log http://paste.ubuntu.com/6574355 any help?
[21:29] <glitsj16> intrader: sudo ppa-purge ppa:... (the dots should be filled in with the specific PPA name, the one you used in the add-apt-repository step
[21:30] <Meris> Beldar, I'll post my output on the forum you directed me to, thx for the help so far :-)
[21:30] <ikonia> ceciliasp_: that info is worthless without info of the problem
[21:30] <glitsj16> intrader: so it didn't start for you?
[21:31] <Bauer> guys, there is a bug in Ubuntu 13.10, where I disabled a child's user profile by setting a password using passwd command - it seems to work only if I lock the account - it prompts for password. but If the user goes to the main screen with all the account, he has login button without password prompt
[21:31] <Bauer> why is that? and how to disable a child's account properly?
[21:31] <ceciliasp_> ikonia basically I can´t boot my system (windows nor ubuntu).
[21:31] <ikonia> ceciliasp_: "can't boot" is utter nothing information
[21:31] <ikonia> ceciliasp_: it's like me saying "fix it then"
[21:31] <ikonia> ceciliasp_: you need to give information about the problem
[21:32] <ceciliasp_> ikonia I can´t run boot repair either because it endlessly asks to unmount partitions
[21:32] <mrb_> ceciliasp_, when you start your computer what happens after the POST?
[21:32] <hakeem> madprops,  try to connect with cable if u can
[21:32] <hakeem> madprops, so u can download the fixes
[21:32] <ikonia> ceciliasp_: sorry can't help you while you're not giving any infomation other than "doesn't work" or "can't do this"
[21:32] <mrb_> ikonia, i would say he needs to update his grub
[21:32] <ceciliasp_> ikonia when starting computer goes direclty to grub rescue
[21:33] <ikonia> mrb_: I don't know how you can say that as so far we have no information about the problem, but if you want to blindly help him, go ahead
[21:33] <hakeem> madprops, is "nmcli con list" works in ur terminal?
[21:33] <ceciliasp_> mrb_ when I restar computer it goes directly to grub rescue screen
[21:33] <mrb_> ceciliasp_, ok do you have like a LIVE CD/USB?
[21:34] <ceciliasp_> mrb_ yes, i´m running ubuntu from a live usb now
[21:34] <mrb_> ok, i just messaged you
[21:34] <cGull> I'm using 12.04 on a usb stick, system worked ok until i added a 2nd gpu (another 7990) now it won't boot. I've tried to verify the filesystem through the boot menu, it finds 4 bad files and wants to reboot, but that does nothing. I get these errors "ext2-fs (loop1): ext2_lookup: deleted inode refrenced: xxxx" until the system halts and nothing mor
[21:34] <cGull> e happens. Can i fix this or do i have to load up the usb with a new iso?
[21:35] <Ben64> mrb_: don't use pm. answer in the channel here
[21:36] <mrb_> Ben64, ok thanks sorry about that
[21:36] <Nidalee> Hi
[21:36] <Nidalee> Can I get some help here? http://askubuntu.com/questions/390862/manually-turn-off-firewall-unblock-ssh-port
[21:36] <intrader> glitsj16, no, on account of the configuration being there. I looked in preferences and there was a list of files, where it did not find anything
[21:38] <glitsj16> intrader: do you have lm-sensors installed? i take it the indicator gets its info from there
[21:38] <intrader> glitsj16, the article also mentions psensor which I have installed, but I don't know how to add the gpu
[21:38] <glitsj16> intrader: me neither, i like plain numbers instead of graphs
[21:39] <intrader> glitsj16, lm-sensors, first time I hear about it - I don't know
[21:39] <kevin_> Yes are there any recommendations for a good Firewall for Ubuntu 13.10?
[21:39] <Ben64> !ufw | kevin_
[21:39] <kevin_> yes i'm using gufw
[21:40] <unknwn> onetinsoldier you are a hero!
[21:40] <glitsj16> intrader: take a look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto, pretty vital if your system is overheating i'd say
[21:40] <mrb_> Anyone have a recommendation for a native Twitter app on Saucy Salamander? (not Birdie)
[21:40] <Ben64> kevin_: well thats a firewall... so question solved?
[21:41] <kevin_> yes thanks
[21:41] <glitsj16> intrader: as the page says, you've got to install that and run sudo sensors-detect, see steps 1-4
[21:43] <intrader> glitsj16, in article, no gpu - strange
[21:44] <intrader> glitsj16, is there an nvidia application for this purpose?
[21:45] <glitsj16> intrader: besides the nvidia-settings i don't know one, but for me, just installed the indicator-sensors, my nvidia gpu is picked up
[21:45] <Nidalee> Can I get some help here? http://askubuntu.com/questions/390862/manually-turn-off-firewall-unblock-ssh-port I can't login into SSH :/
[21:45] <glitsj16> intrader: i had to go with the same developers daily PPA though because the one mentioned in the article didn't offer packages for my ubuntu version
[21:46] <martin__> hi people
[21:47] <Random832> I have two audio devices that use the same module, and I can't figure out how to force one of them to be the first sound card in alsa
[21:47] <Random832> has anyone else had this problem?
[21:47] <martin__> .
[21:48] <glitsj16> intrader: with those temps you're experiencing for so long now, perhaps it's wise to start a ubuntu forum and a nvidia forum thread (https://forums.geforce.com/ .. they'll probably have much better sensoring details for you than i do)
[21:51] <Nidalee> Wat
[21:51] <Nidalee> How doI "You will need to manually mount the hard drives, then you can edit the file causing the issue"?
[21:51] <intrader> glitsj16, good advice. I have just installed lm-sensors and run into the phrase 'Some south bridges...contain embedded sensors' ...
[21:52] <kevin_> Are there any Laptop power saving configurations/apps etc for Ubuntu 13.10?
[21:52] <rootpt> yep
[21:53] <glitsj16> intrader: the ubuntu help documentation states you should answer yes to all yes/no questions, i'd go for that
[21:56] <intrader> glitsj16, notice that there is nothing in /etc/modules. It wants me to add coretemp
[21:56] <rootpt> kevin_ http://www.noobslab.com/2013/07/how-to-improve-laptop-power-management.html
[21:56] <kevin_> thnx rootpt
[21:56] <rootpt> u're welcome
[21:56] <glitsj16> intrader: that's lm-sensors regular behavior, accept and proceed
[21:57] <intrader> glitsj16, it appears that there is nothing for nvidia
[21:58] <glitsj16> intrader: not straight off no, but the indicator-sensors needs lm-sensors info, at least that's how i see it, otherwise it won't offer you sensors to configure .. and for my nvidia gpu i didn't have to add anything else
[21:59] <intrader> glitsj16, I'll add coretemp to /etc/modules while in sudo
[22:00] <glitsj16> intrader: sure, as long as it gets loaded you'd be fine
[22:03] <honestemu> Anyone here have experience using Pidgin as their IM client for Facebook?
[22:04] <yeats> !anyone | honestemu
[22:05] <honestemu> Anyone here have experience using Pidgin as their IM client for Facebook?
[22:05] <martin__> nope
[22:05] <intrader> glitsj16, I'll add coretemp and probably get in trouble on restart won't I
[22:06] <honestemu> Can someone help me get Pidgin to work with group messages in Facebook?
[22:06] <glitsj16> intrader: why? it's quite a reliable kernel module used by many ..
[22:08] <intrader> glitsj16, so it will find coretemp upon reboot?
[22:09] <intrader> glitsj16, I am being paranoid?
[22:09] <soylentbomb> honestemu: To my knowledge, facebook group chats were never implemented in XMPP, so they won't work in pidgin.
[22:09] <glitsj16> intrader: correct, but rebooting isn't needed, run sudo service module-init-tools restart
[22:10] <glitsj16> intrader: these days i'd prefer paranoid over foolishness anytime, but that's only my opinion :)
[22:11] <cGull> I'm using 12.04 on a usb stick, system worked ok until i added a 2nd gpu (another 7990) now it won't boot. I've tried to verify the filesystem through  grub2, it finds 4 bad files and wants to reboot, but that does nothing. I get these errors "ext2-fs (loop1): ext2_lookup: deleted inode refrenced: xxxx" until the system halts and nothing more happe
[22:11] <cGull> ns. Can i fix this or do i have to load up the usb with a new iso? (Removing the 2nd GPU didn't help either)
[22:11] <hays> Hey, how do I get to a terminal login shell with ubuntu? X is broken so I need to get in that way
[22:11] <zykotick9> !text | hays
[22:11] <glitsj16> intrader: and double-checking, asking for clarification etc, part of IRC when it comes to technical support no, i don't take any of your questions as hostile or whatever, to the contrary, better safe .. etc
[22:12] <intrader> glitsj16, thanks, if I issue `sudo locate coretempt` it lists a bunch of stuff
[22:12] <intrader> glitsj16, thanks, if I issue `sudo locate coretemp` it lists a bunch of stuff
[22:13] <glitsj16> intrader: sure, that's what locate does, it looks through your filesystem, use lsmod | grep coretemp to see if it's loaded
[22:14] <glitsj16> intrader: you don't need sudo for locate, only to update it's database (sudo updatedb)
[22:15] <intrader> glitsj16, it displays coretemp in a red letters - is it loaded?
[22:15] <hays> zykotick9: there was a time when you could hit Ctrl-Alt-F2 and get this
[22:16] <zykotick9> hays: you still can?!
[22:16] <glitsj16> intrader: yes it is, the color is a default for grep i believe, nothing to do with your overheating heh
[22:16] <hays> zykotick9: not on my system
[22:16] <zykotick9> hays: then try booting to text, with above instructions.  but sounds like you have more then just xorg broken.
[22:17] <intrader> glitsj16, cute - why on earth red?
[22:17] <hays> yeah i tried to add that and it didn't work
[22:17] <hays> and the link doesn't contain the information it says it does
[22:17] <hays> let me try it again a different way
[22:17] <glitsj16> intrader: developer humor ? don't know :)
[22:17] <intrader> glitsj16, I will let it update /etc/modules and reboot -- see you in a while
[22:17] <zykotick9> hays: e to edit the grub line, add text then (i think) ctrl-x to boot
[22:17] <Scip> hey, does anyone know how I can suspend ubuntu running from a USB HDD?
[22:18] <glitsj16> intrader: okay, i'll go for another kitchen raid
[22:18] <Scip> I was thinking I might need to have the USB power persist or something like that
[22:18] <honestemu> Can someone help me get Pidgin to work with group messages in Facebook?
[22:19] <honestemu> I have normal messages working, but I don't receive group messages.
[22:19] <hays> zykotick9: yeah i get that.  but there is no sensible place to add "text". The grub options have things like load_video=true, etc...  text doesn't appear to be a valid option
[22:20] <zykotick9> hays: sorry, i have no further suggestions.  best of luck.
[22:22] <soylentbomb> honestemu: Again, group messages aren't part of the interface that facebook provides for chat clients, so there's no way to get them to work on pidgin.
[22:23] <honestemu> soylentbomb: Oh gotcha. You already said that? Must have missed it. Sorry.
[22:23] <honestemu> soylentbomb: Thanks for the help, though!
[22:23] <soylentbomb> honestemu: It's okay, things get buried in the join/parts.  You can always help us nag facebook about it.
[22:24] <hays> zykotick9: thanks!
[22:24] <honestemu> soylentbomb: Also, is there another chat client that provides facebook group messages besides pidgin?
[22:26] <soylentbomb> honestemu: Not that I'm aware of, since facebook doesn't provide that capability to third-party clients.
[22:28] <sps> Can anyone help me with this? I'm trying to run this in the GNOME Terminal
[22:28] <sps> "sudo apt-get install autoconf libtool libpcap-dev libboost-all-dev libudev-dev"
[22:28] <honestemu> Dang. Worth a shot. Thanks again, soylentbomb.
[22:28] <sps> And it says unable to lock the adminiistration directory
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> Sps: do you have software centre open or updates installing at present?
[22:29] <zykotick9> hays: can i ask - what started this?  did you manually install a video driver from nvidia.com perhaps?
[22:29] <sps> I'll check
[22:29] <sps> no
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | sps
[22:29] <sontek> What are the steps for getting a library built and onto my PPA?
[22:30] <sontek> I found these docs: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/BuildingASourcePackage  but it just talks about naming conventions and everything but not what files I need to create or anything
[22:32] <wonron> [mnv
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> Sontek: id ask in #ubuntu-dev
[22:32] <ikonia> ubuntu-dev is not for packaging
[22:32] <ikonia> it's for core development
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> Ikonia: but they will be familiar with packaging, no?
[22:33] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: that's not what that channel is there for,
[22:33] <ikonia> #ubuntu-packaging and #ubuntu-motu would be a better plac
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> Ikonia: ok, but the hguys will be proficient with packaging wont they?
[22:34] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: not always, a lot of the developers won't package
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> Ikonia: ok cool. Thats why i sugested it. There is method in my madness
[22:35] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: the guy in #ubuntu-dev writing glibc patches will probably have no idea how to build a deb package as thats not his job
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> Ok
[22:37] <sps> Can anybody help me? I am trying to stop software center from downloading but I can't even get to the 'progress' page
[22:38] <sps> There is a loading sign in the middle of the icon though.
[22:38] <cardude419> hi
[22:38] <cardude419> bai
[22:39] <sps> Does anybody know what to do?
[22:39] <xikur> :)
[22:41] <sps>  Can anybody help me? I am trying to stop software center from downloading but I can't even get to the 'progress' page. There is a loading sign in the middle of the icon though.
[22:41] <gonyere> sps - restart
[22:42] <sps> I just did
[22:42] <gonyere> and it automatically started back up downloading??
[22:42] <sps> I have no idea But the loading sign is still on the software center icon.
[22:43] <sps> And when I hit the progress bar I get a blank page.
[22:44] <Blunder> How do I improve the VNC performance over my network. I've simply enabled Desktop sharing and it's lagging alot.
[22:44] <gonyere> what are you trying to download?
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> Blunder: what are you doing on the remote system?
[22:46] <sps> A few hours ago I started installing updates for Linux. But then I tried to install more through the terminal
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> Blunder: what OS is the client and the server?
[22:46] <sps> and It said it could not lock some library
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> Sps: did you try the command ubottu gave?
[22:48] <sps>  What command was that?
[22:48] <sps> I might have.
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | sps
[22:48] <Blunder> Server is Ubuntu 13.10 and client is Win 7
[22:48] <sps> yes
[22:48] <sps> I tried that
[22:48]  * betong_achmed wow 0x71 (xc) Our have setup their website again http://facebook.com/0x71.org , they are crazy all 0day from God which is Jesus Christ and all coded by God not them. even assembly ide and compiler they have it, not even reverse engineering from IDA Pro as good as them
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> Blunder: what do you do on the remote system?
[22:48] <Blunder> ActionParsnip: Server is Ubuntu 13.10 and client is Win 7
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> Blunder: why do you connect using VNC? What do you do on the remote system?
[22:49] <Blunder> ActionParsnip: No terminal access, just GUI atm.
[22:51] <Blunder> ActionParsnip: It's just so I can manage it without having to be in the same building as it, it's over a gigabit network (With over 500mbps throughput) and it's performance is very poor.
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> Blunder: manage in what way? Updates?
[22:52] <Blunder> ActionParsnip: Updates, ensure Web server is still on.
[22:52] <Tex_Nick> ubuntu 13.10, gnome fallback/flashback DE ... hyperlinks don't work in several apps (XChat, Libre Office Calc & couple others) with firefox ... when i click on a hyperlink in an app other than firefox, firefox opens a new window with my default home page instead of the hyperlink url ... if i change my default browser to Chrome, the hyperlinks open in a new tab as they used to on firefox ... any suggestions there ? ... if it's definately
[22:52] <Tex_Nick>  a firefox problem, i'll ask in #firefox ?
[22:53] <Blunder> ActionParsnip: And just generally change settings and config the machine - kind of just doing everything.
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> Blunder: you can run updates using apt-get in a terminal. Youan check web pages are up by connecting to it from the windows pc.
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> Blunder: all can be done over ssh, much faster
[22:54] <Blunder> ActionParsnip: Of course, but i'd like to be able to remote into the desktop.
[22:54] <ActionParsnip> Blunder: plus if you port forward port 22 on the router you can manage it from outside your own network, and securely
[22:55]  * betong_achmed wtf interpol is after me fuck you all i though this 0x81
[22:57] <Blunder> ActionParsnip: Thanks, but i'd rather improve the performance of VNC
[22:58] <dondopa> wtf betong?
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> Blunder: not something I use but i recommend you switch to ssh, its much more efficient for your requirements. You can connect using PuTTY from Windows
[22:59] <Blunder> ActionParsnip: Sure no problems. Cheers.
[22:59] <bobo> hey guys....anyone else see this in ubuntu 13.10 while installing red5-server?  http://pastebin.com/ipKXHG0K
[23:00] <bobo> !red5-server
[23:01] <quiliro> hi
[23:01] <quiliro> i would like to know what command evice uses to print files to cups
[23:02] <quiliro> and what command cups uses to print to a remote cups
[23:02] <quiliro> so i can test the same proceedure from the command line
[23:02] <quiliro> and find the solution for a bug
[23:03] <Laurenceb_> http://imgur.com/a/ZJTDQ
[23:04] <dondopa> find the solution for a hug
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> Bobo: juat searching
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> Bobo: do you have java installed?
[23:08] <bobo> ActionParsnip: yes java gives me the typical java with no input files message
[23:09] <bobo> I even have javac :)
[23:09] <bobo> and ant and ivy
[23:09] <bobo> :)
[23:09] <bobo> if it failed but left it installed I might have chance to debug...but it seems to back out of installation of that package after failure
[23:09] <bobo> :(
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> Bobo: could remove the application, then reinstall it
[23:12] <aguitel> how to play .flac audio files
[23:13] <Calinou> aguitel, with an appropriate media player
[23:13] <Calinou> try Clementine or VLC?
[23:13] <aguitel> vlc is not working
[23:14] <aguitel> maybe audacius ?
[23:14] <bobo> ActionParsnip: that was different.  Now I get http://pastebin.com/C9TqRRpi  :D
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> aguitel: do you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed?
[23:19] <aguitel> ActionParsnip, no
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> aguitel: try installing it
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> Bobo: does the /usr/share/red5 folder exist?
[23:20] <bobo> ActionParsnip: yes
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> Aguitel: also install gnome-mplayer
[23:20] <bobo> wow
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> Bobo: try purging again then rename the folder, see if it helps
[23:21] <bobo> k
[23:23] <marcolino> anyone care to explain to me how to rename web foldes without encurring some sort of 404/500 error when trying to access them via my browser?
[23:24] <Jeruvy> marcolino you may want to ask #http
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> Marcolino: you'd need to either change the config file, or make a symlink to the new location
[23:28] <marcolino> ActionParsnip, going to look into that
[23:29] <marcolino> Jeruvy, wasn't even aware of #http channel
[23:30] <Jeruvy> marcolino you do now :)
[23:32] <livestrong> hello guys, some help with this error ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6575236/
[23:33] <OerHeks> !find gtkmm
[23:35] <OerHeks> seems like that script is for an older ubuntu version, current is saucy 13.10
[23:35] <livestrong> /usr/include/gtkmm-2.4/gtkmm
[23:35] <livestrong> /usr/include/gtkmm-3.0/gtkmm
[23:36] <livestrong> why it's complaining about gtkmm ?
[23:36] <OerHeks> it is not finding it.
[23:37] <OerHeks> i am not sure how to fix that, what are you trying to build, and what ubuntu version?
[23:38] <Starvisitor> Hello. Is there a way to move the unity launcher in ubuntu 13.10
[23:38] <livestrong> OerHeks: i'm trying to build GClist on ubuntu 13.10
[23:38] <livestrong> GClisp*
[23:47] <Tex_Nick> ubuntu 13.10, is there a global variable used for the default browser to open hyperlinks in ... such as right clicking on a hyperlink in XChat ?
[23:51] <zykotick9> Tex_Nick: there is actually at least 2 "global variables" xdg and gnome
[23:54] <Tex_Nick> zykotick9: hmmm ok ... thanks for input there ... i'll look into xdg
[23:54] <zykotick9> Tex_Nick: you can test by using "xdg-open foo" and "gnome-open foo" to see if they differ
[23:54] <Tex_Nick> zykotick9: when you say gnome, would gnome tweak tools provide input to that
[23:54] <zykotick9> Tex_Nick: sorry, i wouldn't know...
[23:55] <Tex_Nick> zykotick9: hey ok really appreciate input there ... points me in a good direction ... thanks :)
[23:56] <OerHeks> yes, there is an standard browser in system sttings > details > default applications
[23:56] <zykotick9> Tex_Nick: hope it help :)
[23:58] <Tex_Nick> OerHeks: jeeze man i thought i had looked around there ... i see it ... just changed it ... i'll test it in a few apps... thanks