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ochosihave any of you tried the xfce4-taskbar-plugin?00:38
ochosii think so far it's not packaged, only in git.xfce.org00:38
ochosibut it doesn't look bad, i have to say00:38
Unit193Shot?00:39
ochosiwell it looks the same as the windowlist plugin00:39
ochosibut you can pin apps to it00:39
ochosiso it behaves as launcher+windowlist00:39
ochosilike win7 or any dock00:39
ochosicould be a nice way of saving space in the panel00:39
ochosior even of making the bottom panel more useful00:40
Unit193Uh oh, bad words, "dock" and "like win7"00:40
ochosiyeah, but it's practical00:41
ochosiand it'd be much better than the current bottom panel00:41
ochosiwe'd have more space to use in the top panel00:41
ochosidefault panel-setups are too political, i really don't like that00:41
ochosi(and very individual/subjective)00:42
Unit193"This plugin is now shipped with xfce4-panel >= 4.4.0." Hrm...  "Political" alrighty...00:44
ochosiyeah, the plugin actually needs a small makefile-fix to work with the current panel00:44
ochosiand probably more work on the theming side00:44
jjfrv8pleia2, thanks for replying to that guy's question on the ML01:58
NoskcajCan someone look into improving and updating our wikipedia page? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xubuntu02:10
knomeNoskcaj, it's a work item; feel free to take it02:11
Noskcajit is?02:11
knomeyes02:11
pleia2I'm still concerned about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest02:11
pleia2was going to find a wikipedia person to talk to, but I haven't yet02:11
NoskcajAnd i can't, since all me emails got banned from wikipedia when people realised i had an actual account and changed other stuff02:12
Noskcaj*my02:12
pleia2tsk02:12
knomeit would be best if somebody outside the team would do that, yes02:13
Unit193#wikimedia ?02:13
bluesabreochosi: I hope you pushed that makefile fix to some easily accessible branch ;)03:44
forestpiskieochosi: send me the unicorn with rainbows and I'll get little one to submit it :p07:07
elfyochosi: so it occurred again - only thing terminal shows is "(process:11237): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed"08:51
elfybut there are a few lines of that - and I'm pretty positive it was prior to xchat going all 1990's on me :)08:51
elfyall I cam see in logs - is a bunch of Nouveau modelines in xorg log and resize called08:56
elfynot sure where <ochosi> ideally check the logs of xfsettingsd 08:59
elfywhat I might do is install nvidia for it and see if it occurs in there09:00
ochosielfy: hey there09:10
ochosithanks for testing again09:10
ochosielfy: re:log: you could try "tail -f ~/.cache/upstart/startxfce4.log" before you start xchat09:11
ochosiand then keep that terminal-window visible while you watch it break09:11
ochosior just check that logfile for suspicious output09:12
elfyahah09:19
elfyochosi: http://pastebin.com/i7Wb2ckZ timestamp is about right for when I saw it :)09:20
elfybut I will do ^^ to verify 09:20
ochosiok, that looks suspicious enough09:21
elfy:)09:21
ochosino idea though what Crtc is yet09:21
elfyI'll verify it and then I'll install nvidia and do it all again 09:21
ochosiyeah, sounds like it's graphics related09:22
ochosicould you pls also paste a few more of the surrounding lines?09:22
ochosiespecially before09:22
elfyochosi: of course :)09:22
elfyhttp://pastebin.com/6FvmU3dJ09:24
elfyrunning that tail in terminal now 09:25
ochosiok, thanks09:40
brainwashochosi: "Log In" button again after hibernation, so lightdm reports a wrong status12:01
elfyochosi: so it happened again - nothing reported in terminal but similar in startxfce4.log -> http://pastebin.com/EbuLEQwR15:09
ochosibrainwash: you could report a bug vs. lightdm15:50
brainwashochosi: yes, I'll do that15:51
brainwashanyone else actually testing light-locker (trusty)?15:52
ochosiforestpiskie: so it happened with both nouveau and nvidia?15:52
forestpiskieochosi - not actually installed nvidia yet - just wanted to get a verification that I got the same thing in the log before I did that16:02
forestpiskiebbl16:02
ochosiokeydokey16:02
forestpiskieochosi: I've installed it now - but I'm away till later - not likely to get a chance to look till the morning. On another point - if you happen to see the -dev m/l there's a guy there with  ind-sound issues since trying the gtk3 stuff - if you get chance to see that and have an answer for him that would be great16:16
forestpiskiecya tomorrow16:16
ochosik, seeya!16:17
jjfrv8bluesabre, is your server down for maintenance or do you know if there's a problem?17:28
jjfrv8bluesabre, whatever it was, it looks like it has been resolved :)17:55
NoskcajHas anyone else had the latest kernal update make startup impossible?18:28
brainwashNoskcaj: trusty?19:04
Noskcajbrainwash, yeah19:04
brainwashmy system seems to boot normally19:04
brainwash3.12.0-719:06
NoskcajI swapped back to the -5 kernal and that fixed it. Hopefully and update will be enough19:06
brainwashyou should bisect this issue :P19:07
brainwashochosi: different setup (laptop, saucy, suspend) and the button is labeled "Log In" also20:14
brainwashbut you cannot confirm this, right?20:16
ochosibrainwash: hibernate is disabled here20:35
ochosiso i've only tested with suspend, which works fine20:35
brainwashdid I mention hibernate? :)20:38
brainwashit's a different setup20:38
brainwashso suspend/hibernate is affected20:39
knomeso...21:03
knomewhen i disconnect today, it can take some while until i have a stable connection21:03
brainwashochosi: according to my logs lightdm does not get asked by the greeter about logged in users when I suspend/hibernate the system21:51
brainwashso it will display the login button and the font of activate users will remain normal (instead of bold)21:52
brainwashali1234: are you testing light-locker? if yes, does the greeter display the "Log In" or "Unlock" button after a suspend/hibernate?21:55
ali1234well i;m sort of testing it21:55
ali1234but i never lock my computer21:55
ali1234so i don't know21:55
brainwashmmh, we need more testers for the new stuff21:57
brainwashI'll try to add some more debug output to lightdm/gtk-greeter21:58
brainwashit works fine for ochosi, but it does not for me on two different systems (saucy/trusty, suspend/hibernate)21:59
ochosibrainwash: weird. i don't get why it would work for me but not for you23:19
ochosibut then again, audio-playback doesn't stop for me when i lock my session...23:19

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