[00:38] have any of you tried the xfce4-taskbar-plugin? [00:38] i think so far it's not packaged, only in git.xfce.org [00:38] but it doesn't look bad, i have to say [00:39] Shot? [00:39] well it looks the same as the windowlist plugin [00:39] but you can pin apps to it [00:39] so it behaves as launcher+windowlist [00:39] like win7 or any dock [00:39] could be a nice way of saving space in the panel [00:40] or even of making the bottom panel more useful [00:40] Uh oh, bad words, "dock" and "like win7" [00:41] yeah, but it's practical [00:41] and it'd be much better than the current bottom panel [00:41] we'd have more space to use in the top panel [00:41] default panel-setups are too political, i really don't like that [00:42] (and very individual/subjective) [00:44] "This plugin is now shipped with xfce4-panel >= 4.4.0." Hrm... "Political" alrighty... [00:44] yeah, the plugin actually needs a small makefile-fix to work with the current panel [00:44] and probably more work on the theming side [01:58] pleia2, thanks for replying to that guy's question on the ML [02:10] Can someone look into improving and updating our wikipedia page? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xubuntu [02:11] Noskcaj, it's a work item; feel free to take it [02:11] it is? [02:11] yes [02:11] I'm still concerned about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest [02:11] was going to find a wikipedia person to talk to, but I haven't yet [02:12] And i can't, since all me emails got banned from wikipedia when people realised i had an actual account and changed other stuff [02:12] *my [02:12] tsk [02:13] it would be best if somebody outside the team would do that, yes [02:13] #wikimedia ? [03:44] ochosi: I hope you pushed that makefile fix to some easily accessible branch ;) [07:07] ochosi: send me the unicorn with rainbows and I'll get little one to submit it :p [08:51] ochosi: so it occurred again - only thing terminal shows is "(process:11237): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed" [08:51] but there are a few lines of that - and I'm pretty positive it was prior to xchat going all 1990's on me :) [08:56] all I cam see in logs - is a bunch of Nouveau modelines in xorg log and resize called [08:59] not sure where ideally check the logs of xfsettingsd [09:00] what I might do is install nvidia for it and see if it occurs in there [09:10] elfy: hey there [09:10] thanks for testing again [09:11] elfy: re:log: you could try "tail -f ~/.cache/upstart/startxfce4.log" before you start xchat [09:11] and then keep that terminal-window visible while you watch it break [09:12] or just check that logfile for suspicious output [09:19] ahah [09:20] ochosi: http://pastebin.com/i7Wb2ckZ timestamp is about right for when I saw it :) [09:20] but I will do ^^ to verify [09:21] ok, that looks suspicious enough [09:21] :) [09:21] no idea though what Crtc is yet [09:21] I'll verify it and then I'll install nvidia and do it all again [09:22] yeah, sounds like it's graphics related [09:22] could you pls also paste a few more of the surrounding lines? [09:22] especially before [09:22] ochosi: of course :) [09:24] http://pastebin.com/6FvmU3dJ [09:25] running that tail in terminal now [09:40] ok, thanks [12:01] ochosi: "Log In" button again after hibernation, so lightdm reports a wrong status [15:09] ochosi: so it happened again - nothing reported in terminal but similar in startxfce4.log -> http://pastebin.com/EbuLEQwR [15:50] brainwash: you could report a bug vs. lightdm [15:51] ochosi: yes, I'll do that [15:52] anyone else actually testing light-locker (trusty)? [15:52] forestpiskie: so it happened with both nouveau and nvidia? [16:02] ochosi - not actually installed nvidia yet - just wanted to get a verification that I got the same thing in the log before I did that [16:02] bbl [16:02] okeydokey [16:16] ochosi: I've installed it now - but I'm away till later - not likely to get a chance to look till the morning. On another point - if you happen to see the -dev m/l there's a guy there with ind-sound issues since trying the gtk3 stuff - if you get chance to see that and have an answer for him that would be great [16:16] cya tomorrow [16:17] k, seeya! [17:28] bluesabre, is your server down for maintenance or do you know if there's a problem? [17:55] bluesabre, whatever it was, it looks like it has been resolved :) [18:28] Has anyone else had the latest kernal update make startup impossible? [19:04] Noskcaj: trusty? [19:04] brainwash, yeah [19:04] my system seems to boot normally [19:06] 3.12.0-7 [19:06] I swapped back to the -5 kernal and that fixed it. Hopefully and update will be enough [19:07] you should bisect this issue :P [20:14] ochosi: different setup (laptop, saucy, suspend) and the button is labeled "Log In" also [20:16] but you cannot confirm this, right? [20:35] brainwash: hibernate is disabled here [20:35] so i've only tested with suspend, which works fine [20:38] did I mention hibernate? :) [20:38] it's a different setup [20:39] so suspend/hibernate is affected [21:03] so... [21:03] when i disconnect today, it can take some while until i have a stable connection [21:51] ochosi: according to my logs lightdm does not get asked by the greeter about logged in users when I suspend/hibernate the system [21:52] so it will display the login button and the font of activate users will remain normal (instead of bold) [21:55] ali1234: are you testing light-locker? if yes, does the greeter display the "Log In" or "Unlock" button after a suspend/hibernate? [21:55] well i;m sort of testing it [21:55] but i never lock my computer [21:55] so i don't know [21:57] mmh, we need more testers for the new stuff [21:58] I'll try to add some more debug output to lightdm/gtk-greeter [21:59] it works fine for ochosi, but it does not for me on two different systems (saucy/trusty, suspend/hibernate) [23:19] brainwash: weird. i don't get why it would work for me but not for you [23:19] but then again, audio-playback doesn't stop for me when i lock my session...