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GillesMhi, when I modify the the applications menu in menu editor in xubuntu I don't see the modification in the menu idea ?00:15
Poisoned_DragonI had that once.00:15
Poisoned_DragonI forget what causes that. Also, I don't remember if it's a simple as logging out and back in.00:16
Poisoned_DragonI just remember it being a pain to fix.00:16
GillesM:)00:18
Poisoned_DragonI know that's not helpful but, the problem is search friendly in google.00:19
Poisoned_Dragonexample: http://askubuntu.com/questions/104525/xubuntu-applications-menu-still-shows-deleted-applications00:21
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uBUXUBusup xubuntites?00:54
newb_Hi, I am completely new to Linux. I am trying to install xubuntu 12.04 to a new build computer. when I get to the GUI to install my keyboard and mouse stop working completely. They work fine in the Bios/Grub but once I get to the GUI they no longer work. Any suggestions?02:13
newb_anyone here?02:18
uBUXUBuim here newb02:42
uBUXUBuru gone newb?02:43
uBUXUBunewb_02:43
knomeyes, he's gone.02:46
uBUXUBuodd problem02:46
uBUXUBuknome?02:47
uBUXUBuru thre knome from the netherlands?02:47
uBUXUBui mean sweden or something02:47
uBUXUBuomg it is u its pasi02:48
uBUXUBuhow the hell ru02:48
uBUXUBuits me balsaq02:48
uBUXUBui thought u gave up on xubuntu long ago02:48
knomeuBUXUBu, #xubuntu-offtopic please02:49
vorsorkenhaving a bit of an issue with the Greybird theme: http://i.imgur.com/AK4qr36.png03:01
vorsorkenit normally looks like the left, but once in a while I notice they look like the right and I haven't found what causes it because I don't see it when it happens03:02
vorsorkenif I switch themes and then go back to Greybird, it looks normal again03:03
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holsteinvorsorken: are you using compositing?03:40
vorsorkenholstein: yes04:17
rzhihello05:28
xubuntu357hi all users and developers! im is a new user xubuntu 12.04 x6406:12
xubuntu357God is a safe us06:12
xubuntu357good luck06:12
FreezingColdWhat's the default Xfce skin? Looking to use it with a different distro06:42
Unit193FreezingCold: Xfce or Xubuntu?06:49
FreezingColdUnit193: I believe Xubuntu has its own custom default skin of Xfce, right?06:58
FreezingColdThat's the one I'm looking for06:58
Unit193Greybird, a Shimmer theme.06:59
Unit193http://shimmerproject.org/06:59
FreezingColdThanks!06:59
Unit193Sure.07:10
phenomI'm getting an odd 20 second or so delay when I log in until the my selected wallpaper, icons displays. Seemingly like the filesystem is taking a long time to mount. Has anyone experienced this behavior?09:06
well_laid_lawnwhat are you running in autostarted apps ?09:09
phenomwell_laid_lawn: everything default except preload09:14
phenomwhoch I just  uninstalled to test and I;m still having problems09:14
phenom 2.168804] EXT4-fs (sda7): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)09:15
well_laid_lawnI'd try logging into another tty and running   top   to check if an app is using the cpu lots or similar09:15
phenom 6.127823] EXT4-fs (sda7): re-mounted. Opts: discard,errors=remount-ro09:16
well_laid_lawnsda7 is your /home partiton ?09:17
phenomyes09:17
well_laid_lawnis it mounted ro or are things normal when you eventually have access?09:18
phenomseems it's not mounting correctly09:18
phenomnormal when I have access09:18
well_laid_lawnI'd do the top thing I suggested earlier09:19
phenomlet me try09:20
well_laid_lawnyou know how to get to another tty and back ?09:22
phenomsure ctrl alt f109:24
well_laid_lawnctrl+alt+F2 will get you a new tty, ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to X09:26
phenomgvfs-gphoto seems to hang until it mounts/loads correctly09:29
phenomAnd is pegged at 3% resources09:30
well_laid_lawnmust ba a reasonn that needs to work before you get to the desktop09:31
well_laid_lawnI don't know that app09:31
phenomman,,, all I did was set a different desktop, and install preload09:32
phenomdifferent wallpaper rather09:32
phenomI think gphoto sets the wallpaper09:32
well_laid_lawntry cahging to a different wallpaper that isn't related to gphoto09:33
well_laid_lawnmaybe one of the defaults09:33
phenomI did I just set it to a default09:33
phenombut,, let me reset I suppose09:33
phenomI only logged out and back in09:34
elfyphenom: try turning off the compositor in window manager tweaks - we were looking at this a while ago in -dev09:34
elfybut that's all I remember at the moment - brainwash would probably remember more09:35
elfyif it's the same thing09:35
phenomIt's actually gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor09:39
phenomelfy: I thought I did09:39
phenomlemm check09:39
well_laid_lawngvfs if horribly slow at times09:39
phenomYes it is disabled09:40
phenomI also tried to set a keyboard shortcut to call up recoll(search app) and it wasn't,, and still isn't allowing me to add additional keyboard shortcuts09:41
phenomBut after that,, setting a wallpaper,, and installing preload something went downhill.09:42
phenomblah09:42
phenomWell, unless you guys have any more ideas, I'm going to give it a go later.09:44
phenomI'm a bit burned out :/09:45
well_laid_lawntime to try a new user or rename anything xfce,gvfs,gphoto related in ~/.cache,.config while not logged into X09:45
phenomk09:45
well_laid_lawnand start from scratch09:45
phenomadded user, brb09:47
well_laid_lawnluck09:47
phenomNo luck  unfortunately09:55
phenomSet up a new user and the desktop was hanging also09:55
phenomI configured fstab etc for SSD,, but everything was working. I'm curous what would make my sda7 partition remount.09:56
well_laid_lawnI'm out of ideas, maybe elfy or someone can point you in another direction to try09:56
phenomI appreciate it well_laid_lawn09:57
phenomI don't want to have to reinstall the system. But if I must,, now is the time to do time.09:57
well_laid_lawncan you paste the fstab file ?09:57
well_laid_lawn!paste09:57
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.09:57
phenomWell- tomorrow is the time to do it heh..09:57
phenomsure09:57
phenomhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6571491/09:59
phenomah sorry10:00
Sysidiscard can cause performance issues, see http://askubuntu.com/questions/18903/how-to-enable-trim10:00
well_laid_lawnthat paste doesn't show an entry for /home10:00
well_laid_lawnends at line 14 here10:01
phenomhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6571495/10:02
phenomWell there is no home partition sorry, it all on /10:02
phenomUUID=61fd30ae-aa2a-4a81-b0f8-a747d893916e10:02
well_laid_lawnk10:02
well_laid_lawnfollow what Sysi suggests10:03
well_laid_lawnhe be smart10:03
phenomok I'll remove10:04
SysiI'm not sure if that would be the root of the problem, but since it's known to have issues..10:04
well_laid_lawnsince nothing else helped I think it might be a good thing to try10:05
phenomwell I fear that could have somethingto do with my sda7 remount issue is10:06
well_laid_lawnI have to go so luck10:06
phenomblah,, can't type tonight... I'll give it a shot10:06
phenomguys,, I fear that may have done the trick..10:08
phenomI booted right up10:08
phenomLet me cold start10:09
phenomwow10:10
phenomheh10:10
phenomHAH10:10
* phenom smacks discard in it's face10:10
phenomDamn good suggestion Sysi10:11
phenomI appreciate your help, I'm confident that did the trick.. No remount error.10:11
Sysito be honest I'm a bit surprised it worked, but so far so good10:12
phenomahh10:12
phenomremounte error is still there: EXT4-fs (sda7): re-mounted. Opts: discard,errors=remount-ro10:13
elfyglas that worked - didn't notice the SSD bit - and wouldn't know one if it bit me10:13
phenomI can look in to that, I'm not quite sure if that is normal behavior.10:13
SysiI don't think that's actually an issue10:13
Sysithough discard still appearing is curious10:14
phenomI disabled all desktop icons,, that's why I wouldn't have noticed the system hanging.. I just recently place a few files on the desktop and realized they werent showing up.10:15
phenomI need to trace back all of my ssd configs10:15
Sysiwell, I need to go shopping before stores get too full10:15
phenomThanks Sysi10:15
phenomcheers10:16
phenomWell I'm going to reinstall preload and recoll :P10:16
phenommoreover I configured my rc.local with TRIM support and added it to fstab. :L10:21
phenomhence the: <Sysi> though discard still appearing is curious10:23
phenomIs there any benefit to setting it as a cron job vs the rc.local?10:23
phenomSuppose it may boot a bit quicker with a cron job10:26
phenomOK, done for the night10:26
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Dan_DIn the main menu, I have links to programs I no longer have. I cannot figure out how to remove them, seeing as they do not appear in the main menu launcher editing menu.11:53
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TheSheepDan_D: check ~/.local/share/applications/11:55
Dan_DOk11:55
Dan_DShall I rm the unwanted ones?11:56
Dan_DIn the main menu there is still an 'Other' section with unwanted launchers which did not appear in that list11:57
Dan_DOh well12:02
xubuntu597Hi everyone! Where can I find the loader.conf ? I want to add http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/en/man4/snd_t4dwave.4freebsd.html this to that file, because now I've got no sound. Anyone?14:09
Poisoned_DragonI don't think you can use a BSD procedure in Linux.14:17
Poisoned_DragonIsn't that like apples and oranges?14:17
xubuntu597So how can I manage to get sound working from my Trident 4DWave-DX ?14:29
CountryfiedLinuxHow do I enable multiple app windows to group to a single list on the panel?14:55
Poisoned_Dragon?14:55
Poisoned_DragonThere is a plugin called Window Menu.14:56
Poisoned_DragonThe apps are arranged in a menu style list.14:56
Poisoned_DragonI'm not a big fan of it, though.14:56
CountryfiedLinuxwindow menu?14:57
Poisoned_DragonYeah, instead of Window Buttons.14:57
Poisoned_DragonWhich is the more traditional way to list apps.14:57
CountryfiedLinuxI see  now Poisoned_Dragon only problem is can't minimize with it.14:58
CountryfiedLinuxPoisoned_Dragon, In Mint Xfce you can right-click and enable window list grouping.14:58
CountryfiedLinuxPoisoned_Dragon, Would you happen to know the name of what that is?14:58
Poisoned_DragonThe plugin doesn't group. Sowwies.14:58
Poisoned_DragonIt just lists every app.14:59
Poisoned_DragonHence why I just stick to the Window Buttons plugin or Plank.14:59
CountryfiedLinuxIs there a way to import additional panel items?15:00
Poisoned_DragonYou mean add to the epanel?15:01
Poisoned_Dragon*panel15:01
CountryfiedLinuxyes15:01
elfywindows buttons does list them  - unless that's in trusty only15:01
Poisoned_DragonIn plank, or xfce4-panel?15:01
CountryfiedLinuxpanel15:01
Poisoned_DragonIf you right-click the panel, the drop-down should have a sub-menu called Panel.15:02
Poisoned_DragonThere, you can click add to panel.15:02
Jedeehello15:03
CountryfiedLinuxNo I knew that, I mean more items than what's already there.15:03
Jedeedoes anyone know if banshee is the standard player in the LTS version?15:04
Jedeeand if it can be controlled by a dj controller?15:04
Poisoned_DragonI honestly don't remember banshee being in the LTS.15:05
Jedeei've got a ipod classic so...15:05
Jedeethat will work with it15:05
Poisoned_DragonOh... I get it.15:06
Poisoned_DragonCountryfiedLinux, you can add plugins with Synaptic.15:06
Poisoned_DragonJust don't add the xfce4-goodies package. It's 4.8. Too old and will cause conflicts.15:07
Jedeeok15:07
elfyJedee: the default musuc player will be gmusicbrowser - though that won't stop you installing banshee if you want it15:07
Jedeei understand :)15:08
Jedeeit would be nice to have dj controller as a combined soundcard and controller15:08
Jedeeand work within the xubuntu audio stuff15:09
CountryfiedLinuxhere's what I'm talking about http://s8.postimg.org/b9jegxsfp/1_2.png15:10
CountryfiedLinuxI can do that in Mint but not Xubuntu.15:10
CountryfiedLinuxOh I found it15:11
Poisoned_Dragonlol15:11
Poisoned_Dragon:)15:11
CountryfiedLinuxcarefully place the edge of the pointer between the menu and window list and right-click15:11
Poisoned_DragonNo, just hold down ctrl and right-click on it15:12
Poisoned_Dragongives you the right-click menu, no matter what.15:12
CountryfiedLinuxThose 2 items aren't nut to butt, there is a tiny space for additional right-click options15:12
Poisoned_DragonYeah, if you don't hide it.15:12
CountryfiedLinuxOk I've got the top panel all gaffed up now haha but I suppose it will be fine after installing :P in live session15:13
Poisoned_DragonJust easier to hold down ctrl and right-click15:14
xubuntu549Hi is there anyone from Russia????15:15
Unit193!ru15:15
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.15:15
CountryfiedLinuxPoisoned_Dragon, Ctrl+right-click doesn't bring up that menu, ya gotta get that pointer in between that tiny space and right-click>properties.15:19
Poisoned_Dragonit works for me(tm)15:19
CountryfiedLinuxPoisoned_Dragon, Every menu item has additional properties :)15:19
CountryfiedLinuxI mean panel item15:20
Poisoned_Dragonif I hold down ctrl and right-click on any of the buttons in the window buttons plugin, I get the plugin propertied menu.15:21
CountryfiedLinuxOh you're right Poisoned_Dragon15:21
Poisoned_Dragon:)15:21
Poisoned_DragonI've been using xfce enough to know. Y U No save my sanity?! lol15:22
CountryfiedLinuxAlthough it would be more simplified if there was an item properties menu without Ctrl15:22
Poisoned_Dragonif you enable "Show Handle", You'll always have an easy place to right click.15:22
CountryfiedLinuxOnly issue I have with Xfce is its so hard to find Window themes. There isn't a search criteria anywhere for xfwm4 themes15:23
Poisoned_DragonWe had this conversation. :) xfce-look.org15:23
GridCubeCountryfiedLinux, thats 'cos they are just gtk2/3 themes15:24
Poisoned_DragonGotta pay attention to the description.15:24
GridCubeCountryfiedLinux, you do the youtube reviews?15:24
Poisoned_DragonSome themes are for the whole. Some for xfwm4, some just for the skin without the WM border.15:24
CountryfiedLinuxGridCube, yep :)15:24
GridCube:D i like them15:24
GridCubegood job15:25
Poisoned_DragonThey are funny15:25
CountryfiedLinuxPoisoned_Dragon, I know that, I mean I think it would be nice if they could be filtered out like metacity15:25
Poisoned_DragonAh... Well. Not an exact science.15:25
CountryfiedLinuxPoisoned_Dragon, To me more organized so to speak :)15:25
Poisoned_DragonAgain... Just gotta find what sounds good and read the descriptions.15:26
Poisoned_DragonSadly, the theme I'm using now was found on gnome-looks15:26
Poisoned_DragonI was trying to see if xfce could do gtk3 themes.15:27
Sysimoebuntu!15:27
CountryfiedLinuxgotta reboot15:27
Poisoned_DragonFound a really nice dark theme15:27
CountryfiedLinuxback15:30
Poisoned_Dragonwb15:30
CountryfiedLinuxNow gotta move that top panel to the bottom15:30
CountryfiedLinuxthanks Poisoned_Dragon15:30
CountryfiedLinuxgot it :)15:34
CountryfiedLinuxWhen you unlock the panel it gives you a couple of handles you can use to drag it elsewhere :)15:35
CountryfiedLinuxI'm still learning :)15:35
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greenmockingbirdhey guys16:34
greenmockingbirdcan an amd catalyst 13.11 beta 9.4 drive package be generated on xubuntu12.10 thats installed on an 8gb flash drive?16:35
greenmockingbirdthe reason I ask is because on two systems going about it two different ways its faild.. first fiald to build then not able to detect the correct install16:35
greenmockingbirdandwhen run with --buildpkg Ubuntu/precise  it says that the version of ubuntu is unsupported..16:36
greenmockingbirdso I rechecked that all the correct required packages are installed. thats good and now I get a out of space errr16:37
greenmockingbirdI'm pulling my hair out.. any ideas? I can try in a VM?16:37
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xubuntu188what is the path of the default desktop wallpaper19:21
Blaylis-tecstripper: Just for reference , I read-the logs of last Friday about asking for a way to edit or interact with Grub-Menu at the start of the boot-loading process ..19:23
Blaylis-tecsI leave shortly after this .. but ...19:23
Blaylis-tecsI imagine it involves pressing the 'Tab' key and then the small letter ' e ' to enter into that part of the menu structure .19:24
Blaylis-tecsalthough I know little about the process I am sure you could do some good by get your mits on a copy of Grub the packt publishing and/or O'reilley handbook .. I am sure it's accessible on the interwebs somewhere ...19:25
Poisoned_Dragonxubuntu188, /usr/share/xfce/backdrops19:28
Poisoned_DragonOr something like that.19:28
Blaylis-tecsperhaps a good venture into what gentoo has in it's array on doc.s on their site would help at some stage or another .. try not to knock yourself out with all the outdated documentation avail.able . after all It's up to themselves to cater for new versions and their own Updates ._19:28
Blaylis-tecsleaves.19:28
GridCubexubuntu188, >>locate backdrops<< = /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops19:28
Poisoned_Dragonthanls, GridCube. I forgot the 419:28
Poisoned_DragonThe kb is not my friend today.19:29
GridCube:) but thats close enough from memory19:29
xubuntu188thanks ppl19:30
Poisoned_Dragonxfce 4 life19:42
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uBUXUBugood afternoon xubuntites21:00
uBUXUBuhow does one close a closed FF program?21:06
knomeuBUXUBu, in terminal, type 'ps -A | grep firefox' to see all running firefox instances and their pids21:06
GridCubeuBUXUBu, alt-f2> killall firefox21:07
knomewell that too21:07
uBUXUBui did21:07
knomemy experience is that the firefox instances usually die soon after that message is thrown21:07
GridCubeyes, that is true21:07
uBUXUBudoes chromium do that too?21:07
knomeunless something is really stuck, which doesn't happen too often21:07
uBUXUBui dont like that feature21:07
knomei don't know if chromium does that, or handles it the same way21:09
uBUXUBuima try it21:09
uBUXUButhat hang is very annoying21:09
uBUXUBucan i change the color of the top bar that runs across my screen i prefer clear blue21:43
uBUXUButhis dull black thing is not gettin it done21:43
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sModelelleQu.before-Bedz :Is there any problem with using MoCA Coax Leads for Xubuntu 13.10  in terms of networking ? #rRandom |  http://i.imgur.com/pvYyPVZ.jpg?1  .. Iwill check the loggs on Sunday . 😊22:38
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xubuntu883Hey is anyone online, i have a few questions22:49
knome!anyone | xubuntu88322:49
ubottuxubuntu883: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.22:49
knomexubuntu883, welcome22:49
xubuntu883Hey22:50
xubuntu883Ive been thinking of converting to xubuntu and i was wondering if its a full system wipe or does it keep all my files safe ?22:51
knomethat depends how you install; you should always back up data though22:51
xubuntu883okay cool, also if i do install it am i still able to play the games that i have on my pc or will i have to either get a linux version or go without?22:52
knomemany games do not work on linux, because they are developed for other platforms22:53
knomethere are ways to get them work, including emulators, and lately, steam22:53
xubuntu883most of my games are pirated, will they still work through steam or am I buggered?22:54
knomethat's not really the scope of this channel, so please let's not continue further on that... but briefly, they won't work with steam, only games purchased from there will work22:55
xubuntu883Righteo, Thanks knome you have been a great help22:56
uBUXUBuomg a pirate22:57
uBUXUBuive often wondered who u do  that22:57
uBUXUBuhow*22:57
knomeuBUXUBu, that's still not on the scope of this channel22:59
uBUXUBui know i am surprised you guys talk about it here it is illegal23:04
uBUXUBui prefer buntu over pirated OS23:04
bazhang!ot | uBUXUBu23:04
ubottuuBUXUBu: #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!23:04
CypherPunk39Hey everyone23:07
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