[00:15] <GillesM> hi, when I modify the the applications menu in menu editor in xubuntu I don't see the modification in the menu idea ?
[00:15] <Poisoned_Dragon> I had that once.
[00:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> I forget what causes that. Also, I don't remember if it's a simple as logging out and back in.
[00:16] <Poisoned_Dragon> I just remember it being a pain to fix.
[00:18] <GillesM> :)
[00:19] <Poisoned_Dragon> I know that's not helpful but, the problem is search friendly in google.
[00:21] <Poisoned_Dragon> example: http://askubuntu.com/questions/104525/xubuntu-applications-menu-still-shows-deleted-applications
[00:54] <uBUXUBu> sup xubuntites?
[02:13] <newb_> Hi, I am completely new to Linux. I am trying to install xubuntu 12.04 to a new build computer. when I get to the GUI to install my keyboard and mouse stop working completely. They work fine in the Bios/Grub but once I get to the GUI they no longer work. Any suggestions?
[02:18] <newb_> anyone here?
[02:42] <uBUXUBu> im here newb
[02:43] <uBUXUBu> ru gone newb?
[02:43] <uBUXUBu> newb_
[02:46] <knome> yes, he's gone.
[02:46] <uBUXUBu> odd problem
[02:47] <uBUXUBu> knome?
[02:47] <uBUXUBu> ru thre knome from the netherlands?
[02:47] <uBUXUBu> i mean sweden or something
[02:48] <uBUXUBu> omg it is u its pasi
[02:48] <uBUXUBu> how the hell ru
[02:48] <uBUXUBu> its me balsaq
[02:48] <uBUXUBu> i thought u gave up on xubuntu long ago
[02:49] <knome> uBUXUBu, #xubuntu-offtopic please
[03:01] <vorsorken> having a bit of an issue with the Greybird theme: http://i.imgur.com/AK4qr36.png
[03:02] <vorsorken> it normally looks like the left, but once in a while I notice they look like the right and I haven't found what causes it because I don't see it when it happens
[03:03] <vorsorken> if I switch themes and then go back to Greybird, it looks normal again
[03:40] <holstein> vorsorken: are you using compositing?
[04:17] <vorsorken> holstein: yes
[05:28] <rzhi> hello
[06:12] <xubuntu357> hi all users and developers! im is a new user xubuntu 12.04 x64
[06:12] <xubuntu357> God is a safe us
[06:12] <xubuntu357> good luck
[06:42] <FreezingCold> What's the default Xfce skin? Looking to use it with a different distro
[06:49] <Unit193> FreezingCold: Xfce or Xubuntu?
[06:58] <FreezingCold> Unit193: I believe Xubuntu has its own custom default skin of Xfce, right?
[06:58] <FreezingCold> That's the one I'm looking for
[06:59] <Unit193> Greybird, a Shimmer theme.
[06:59] <Unit193> http://shimmerproject.org/
[06:59] <FreezingCold> Thanks!
[07:10] <Unit193> Sure.
[09:06] <phenom> I'm getting an odd 20 second or so delay when I log in until the my selected wallpaper, icons displays. Seemingly like the filesystem is taking a long time to mount. Has anyone experienced this behavior?
[09:09] <well_laid_lawn> what are you running in autostarted apps ?
[09:14] <phenom> well_laid_lawn: everything default except preload
[09:14] <phenom> whoch I just  uninstalled to test and I;m still having problems
[09:15] <phenom>  2.168804] EXT4-fs (sda7): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)
[09:15] <well_laid_lawn> I'd try logging into another tty and running   top   to check if an app is using the cpu lots or similar
[09:16] <phenom>  6.127823] EXT4-fs (sda7): re-mounted. Opts: discard,errors=remount-ro
[09:17] <well_laid_lawn> sda7 is your /home partiton ?
[09:17] <phenom> yes
[09:18] <well_laid_lawn> is it mounted ro or are things normal when you eventually have access?
[09:18] <phenom> seems it's not mounting correctly
[09:18] <phenom> normal when I have access
[09:19] <well_laid_lawn> I'd do the top thing I suggested earlier
[09:20] <phenom> let me try
[09:22] <well_laid_lawn> you know how to get to another tty and back ?
[09:24] <phenom> sure ctrl alt f1
[09:26] <well_laid_lawn> ctrl+alt+F2 will get you a new tty, ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to X
[09:29] <phenom> gvfs-gphoto seems to hang until it mounts/loads correctly
[09:30] <phenom> And is pegged at 3% resources
[09:31] <well_laid_lawn> must ba a reasonn that needs to work before you get to the desktop
[09:31] <well_laid_lawn> I don't know that app
[09:32] <phenom> man,,, all I did was set a different desktop, and install preload
[09:32] <phenom> different wallpaper rather
[09:32] <phenom> I think gphoto sets the wallpaper
[09:33] <well_laid_lawn> try cahging to a different wallpaper that isn't related to gphoto
[09:33] <well_laid_lawn> maybe one of the defaults
[09:33] <phenom> I did I just set it to a default
[09:33] <phenom> but,, let me reset I suppose
[09:34] <phenom> I only logged out and back in
[09:34] <elfy> phenom: try turning off the compositor in window manager tweaks - we were looking at this a while ago in -dev
[09:35] <elfy> but that's all I remember at the moment - brainwash would probably remember more
[09:35] <elfy> if it's the same thing
[09:39] <phenom> It's actually gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor
[09:39] <phenom> elfy: I thought I did
[09:39] <phenom> lemm check
[09:39] <well_laid_lawn> gvfs if horribly slow at times
[09:40] <phenom> Yes it is disabled
[09:41] <phenom> I also tried to set a keyboard shortcut to call up recoll(search app) and it wasn't,, and still isn't allowing me to add additional keyboard shortcuts
[09:42] <phenom> But after that,, setting a wallpaper,, and installing preload something went downhill.
[09:42] <phenom> blah
[09:44] <phenom> Well, unless you guys have any more ideas, I'm going to give it a go later.
[09:45] <phenom> I'm a bit burned out :/
[09:45] <well_laid_lawn> time to try a new user or rename anything xfce,gvfs,gphoto related in ~/.cache,.config while not logged into X
[09:45] <phenom> k
[09:45] <well_laid_lawn> and start from scratch
[09:47] <phenom> added user, brb
[09:47] <well_laid_lawn> luck
[09:55] <phenom> No luck  unfortunately
[09:55] <phenom> Set up a new user and the desktop was hanging also
[09:56] <phenom> I configured fstab etc for SSD,, but everything was working. I'm curous what would make my sda7 partition remount.
[09:56] <well_laid_lawn> I'm out of ideas, maybe elfy or someone can point you in another direction to try
[09:57] <phenom> I appreciate it well_laid_lawn
[09:57] <phenom> I don't want to have to reinstall the system. But if I must,, now is the time to do time.
[09:57] <well_laid_lawn> can you paste the fstab file ?
[09:57] <well_laid_lawn> !paste
[09:57] <phenom> Well- tomorrow is the time to do it heh..
[09:57] <phenom> sure
[09:59] <phenom> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6571491/
[10:00] <phenom> ah sorry
[10:00] <Sysi> discard can cause performance issues, see http://askubuntu.com/questions/18903/how-to-enable-trim
[10:00] <well_laid_lawn> that paste doesn't show an entry for /home
[10:01] <well_laid_lawn> ends at line 14 here
[10:02] <phenom> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6571495/
[10:02] <phenom> Well there is no home partition sorry, it all on /
[10:02] <phenom> UUID=61fd30ae-aa2a-4a81-b0f8-a747d893916e
[10:02] <well_laid_lawn> k
[10:03] <well_laid_lawn> follow what Sysi suggests
[10:03] <well_laid_lawn> he be smart
[10:04] <phenom> ok I'll remove
[10:04] <Sysi> I'm not sure if that would be the root of the problem, but since it's known to have issues..
[10:05] <well_laid_lawn> since nothing else helped I think it might be a good thing to try
[10:06] <phenom> well I fear that could have somethingto do with my sda7 remount issue is
[10:06] <well_laid_lawn> I have to go so luck
[10:06] <phenom> blah,, can't type tonight... I'll give it a shot
[10:08] <phenom> guys,, I fear that may have done the trick..
[10:08] <phenom> I booted right up
[10:09] <phenom> Let me cold start
[10:10] <phenom> wow
[10:10] <phenom> heh
[10:10] <phenom> HAH
[10:10]  * phenom smacks discard in it's face
[10:11] <phenom> Damn good suggestion Sysi
[10:11] <phenom> I appreciate your help, I'm confident that did the trick.. No remount error.
[10:12] <Sysi> to be honest I'm a bit surprised it worked, but so far so good
[10:12] <phenom> ahh
[10:13] <phenom> remounte error is still there: EXT4-fs (sda7): re-mounted. Opts: discard,errors=remount-ro
[10:13] <elfy> glas that worked - didn't notice the SSD bit - and wouldn't know one if it bit me
[10:13] <phenom> I can look in to that, I'm not quite sure if that is normal behavior.
[10:13] <Sysi> I don't think that's actually an issue
[10:14] <Sysi> though discard still appearing is curious
[10:15] <phenom> I disabled all desktop icons,, that's why I wouldn't have noticed the system hanging.. I just recently place a few files on the desktop and realized they werent showing up.
[10:15] <phenom> I need to trace back all of my ssd configs
[10:15] <Sysi> well, I need to go shopping before stores get too full
[10:15] <phenom> Thanks Sysi
[10:16] <phenom> cheers
[10:16] <phenom> Well I'm going to reinstall preload and recoll :P
[10:21] <phenom> moreover I configured my rc.local with TRIM support and added it to fstab. :L
[10:23] <phenom> hence the: <Sysi> though discard still appearing is curious
[10:23] <phenom> Is there any benefit to setting it as a cron job vs the rc.local?
[10:26] <phenom> Suppose it may boot a bit quicker with a cron job
[10:26] <phenom> OK, done for the night
[11:53] <Dan_D> In the main menu, I have links to programs I no longer have. I cannot figure out how to remove them, seeing as they do not appear in the main menu launcher editing menu.
[11:55] <TheSheep> Dan_D: check ~/.local/share/applications/
[11:55] <Dan_D> Ok
[11:56] <Dan_D> Shall I rm the unwanted ones?
[11:57] <Dan_D> In the main menu there is still an 'Other' section with unwanted launchers which did not appear in that list
[12:02] <Dan_D> Oh well
[14:09] <xubuntu597> Hi everyone! Where can I find the loader.conf ? I want to add http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/en/man4/snd_t4dwave.4freebsd.html this to that file, because now I've got no sound. Anyone?
[14:17] <Poisoned_Dragon> I don't think you can use a BSD procedure in Linux.
[14:17] <Poisoned_Dragon> Isn't that like apples and oranges?
[14:29] <xubuntu597> So how can I manage to get sound working from my Trident 4DWave-DX ?
[14:55] <CountryfiedLinux> How do I enable multiple app windows to group to a single list on the panel?
[14:55] <Poisoned_Dragon> ?
[14:56] <Poisoned_Dragon> There is a plugin called Window Menu.
[14:56] <Poisoned_Dragon> The apps are arranged in a menu style list.
[14:56] <Poisoned_Dragon> I'm not a big fan of it, though.
[14:57] <CountryfiedLinux> window menu?
[14:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> Yeah, instead of Window Buttons.
[14:57] <Poisoned_Dragon> Which is the more traditional way to list apps.
[14:58] <CountryfiedLinux> I see  now Poisoned_Dragon only problem is can't minimize with it.
[14:58] <CountryfiedLinux> Poisoned_Dragon, In Mint Xfce you can right-click and enable window list grouping.
[14:58] <CountryfiedLinux> Poisoned_Dragon, Would you happen to know the name of what that is?
[14:58] <Poisoned_Dragon> The plugin doesn't group. Sowwies.
[14:59] <Poisoned_Dragon> It just lists every app.
[14:59] <Poisoned_Dragon> Hence why I just stick to the Window Buttons plugin or Plank.
[15:00] <CountryfiedLinux> Is there a way to import additional panel items?
[15:01] <Poisoned_Dragon> You mean add to the epanel?
[15:01] <Poisoned_Dragon> *panel
[15:01] <CountryfiedLinux> yes
[15:01] <elfy> windows buttons does list them  - unless that's in trusty only
[15:01] <Poisoned_Dragon> In plank, or xfce4-panel?
[15:01] <CountryfiedLinux> panel
[15:02] <Poisoned_Dragon> If you right-click the panel, the drop-down should have a sub-menu called Panel.
[15:02] <Poisoned_Dragon> There, you can click add to panel.
[15:03] <Jedee> hello
[15:03] <CountryfiedLinux> No I knew that, I mean more items than what's already there.
[15:04] <Jedee> does anyone know if banshee is the standard player in the LTS version?
[15:04] <Jedee> and if it can be controlled by a dj controller?
[15:05] <Poisoned_Dragon> I honestly don't remember banshee being in the LTS.
[15:05] <Jedee> i've got a ipod classic so...
[15:05] <Jedee> that will work with it
[15:06] <Poisoned_Dragon> Oh... I get it.
[15:06] <Poisoned_Dragon> CountryfiedLinux, you can add plugins with Synaptic.
[15:07] <Poisoned_Dragon> Just don't add the xfce4-goodies package. It's 4.8. Too old and will cause conflicts.
[15:07] <Jedee> ok
[15:07] <elfy> Jedee: the default musuc player will be gmusicbrowser - though that won't stop you installing banshee if you want it
[15:08] <Jedee> i understand :)
[15:08] <Jedee> it would be nice to have dj controller as a combined soundcard and controller
[15:09] <Jedee> and work within the xubuntu audio stuff
[15:10] <CountryfiedLinux> here's what I'm talking about http://s8.postimg.org/b9jegxsfp/1_2.png
[15:10] <CountryfiedLinux> I can do that in Mint but not Xubuntu.
[15:11] <CountryfiedLinux> Oh I found it
[15:11] <Poisoned_Dragon> lol
[15:11] <Poisoned_Dragon> :)
[15:11] <CountryfiedLinux> carefully place the edge of the pointer between the menu and window list and right-click
[15:12] <Poisoned_Dragon> No, just hold down ctrl and right-click on it
[15:12] <Poisoned_Dragon> gives you the right-click menu, no matter what.
[15:12] <CountryfiedLinux> Those 2 items aren't nut to butt, there is a tiny space for additional right-click options
[15:12] <Poisoned_Dragon> Yeah, if you don't hide it.
[15:13] <CountryfiedLinux> Ok I've got the top panel all gaffed up now haha but I suppose it will be fine after installing :P in live session
[15:14] <Poisoned_Dragon> Just easier to hold down ctrl and right-click
[15:15] <xubuntu549> Hi is there anyone from Russia????
[15:15] <Unit193> !ru
[15:19] <CountryfiedLinux> Poisoned_Dragon, Ctrl+right-click doesn't bring up that menu, ya gotta get that pointer in between that tiny space and right-click>properties.
[15:19] <Poisoned_Dragon> it works for me(tm)
[15:19] <CountryfiedLinux> Poisoned_Dragon, Every menu item has additional properties :)
[15:20] <CountryfiedLinux> I mean panel item
[15:21] <Poisoned_Dragon> if I hold down ctrl and right-click on any of the buttons in the window buttons plugin, I get the plugin propertied menu.
[15:21] <CountryfiedLinux> Oh you're right Poisoned_Dragon
[15:21] <Poisoned_Dragon> :)
[15:22] <Poisoned_Dragon> I've been using xfce enough to know. Y U No save my sanity?! lol
[15:22] <CountryfiedLinux> Although it would be more simplified if there was an item properties menu without Ctrl
[15:22] <Poisoned_Dragon> if you enable "Show Handle", You'll always have an easy place to right click.
[15:23] <CountryfiedLinux> Only issue I have with Xfce is its so hard to find Window themes. There isn't a search criteria anywhere for xfwm4 themes
[15:23] <Poisoned_Dragon> We had this conversation. :) xfce-look.org
[15:24] <GridCube> CountryfiedLinux, thats 'cos they are just gtk2/3 themes
[15:24] <Poisoned_Dragon> Gotta pay attention to the description.
[15:24] <GridCube> CountryfiedLinux, you do the youtube reviews?
[15:24] <Poisoned_Dragon> Some themes are for the whole. Some for xfwm4, some just for the skin without the WM border.
[15:24] <CountryfiedLinux> GridCube, yep :)
[15:24] <GridCube> :D i like them
[15:25] <GridCube> good job
[15:25] <Poisoned_Dragon> They are funny
[15:25] <CountryfiedLinux> Poisoned_Dragon, I know that, I mean I think it would be nice if they could be filtered out like metacity
[15:25] <Poisoned_Dragon> Ah... Well. Not an exact science.
[15:25] <CountryfiedLinux> Poisoned_Dragon, To me more organized so to speak :)
[15:26] <Poisoned_Dragon> Again... Just gotta find what sounds good and read the descriptions.
[15:26] <Poisoned_Dragon> Sadly, the theme I'm using now was found on gnome-looks
[15:27] <Poisoned_Dragon> I was trying to see if xfce could do gtk3 themes.
[15:27] <Sysi> moebuntu!
[15:27] <CountryfiedLinux> gotta reboot
[15:27] <Poisoned_Dragon> Found a really nice dark theme
[15:30] <CountryfiedLinux> back
[15:30] <Poisoned_Dragon> wb
[15:30] <CountryfiedLinux> Now gotta move that top panel to the bottom
[15:30] <CountryfiedLinux> thanks Poisoned_Dragon
[15:34] <CountryfiedLinux> got it :)
[15:35] <CountryfiedLinux> When you unlock the panel it gives you a couple of handles you can use to drag it elsewhere :)
[15:35] <CountryfiedLinux> I'm still learning :)
[16:34] <greenmockingbird> hey guys
[16:35] <greenmockingbird> can an amd catalyst 13.11 beta 9.4 drive package be generated on xubuntu12.10 thats installed on an 8gb flash drive?
[16:35] <greenmockingbird> the reason I ask is because on two systems going about it two different ways its faild.. first fiald to build then not able to detect the correct install
[16:36] <greenmockingbird> andwhen run with --buildpkg Ubuntu/precise  it says that the version of ubuntu is unsupported..
[16:37] <greenmockingbird> so I rechecked that all the correct required packages are installed. thats good and now I get a out of space errr
[16:37] <greenmockingbird> I'm pulling my hair out.. any ideas? I can try in a VM?
[19:21] <xubuntu188> what is the path of the default desktop wallpaper
[19:23] <Blaylis-tecs> tripper: Just for reference , I read-the logs of last Friday about asking for a way to edit or interact with Grub-Menu at the start of the boot-loading process ..
[19:23] <Blaylis-tecs> I leave shortly after this .. but ...
[19:24] <Blaylis-tecs> I imagine it involves pressing the 'Tab' key and then the small letter ' e ' to enter into that part of the menu structure .
[19:25] <Blaylis-tecs> although I know little about the process I am sure you could do some good by get your mits on a copy of Grub the packt publishing and/or O'reilley handbook .. I am sure it's accessible on the interwebs somewhere ...
[19:28] <Poisoned_Dragon> xubuntu188, /usr/share/xfce/backdrops
[19:28] <Poisoned_Dragon> Or something like that.
[19:28] <Blaylis-tecs> perhaps a good venture into what gentoo has in it's array on doc.s on their site would help at some stage or another .. try not to knock yourself out with all the outdated documentation avail.able . after all It's up to themselves to cater for new versions and their own Updates ._
[19:28] <Blaylis-tecs> leaves.
[19:28] <GridCube> xubuntu188, >>locate backdrops<< = /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops
[19:28] <Poisoned_Dragon> thanls, GridCube. I forgot the 4
[19:29] <Poisoned_Dragon> The kb is not my friend today.
[19:29] <GridCube> :) but thats close enough from memory
[19:30] <xubuntu188> thanks ppl
[19:42] <Poisoned_Dragon> xfce 4 life
[21:00] <uBUXUBu> good afternoon xubuntites
[21:06] <uBUXUBu> how does one close a closed FF program?
[21:06] <knome> uBUXUBu, in terminal, type 'ps -A | grep firefox' to see all running firefox instances and their pids
[21:07] <GridCube> uBUXUBu, alt-f2> killall firefox
[21:07] <knome> well that too
[21:07] <uBUXUBu> i did
[21:07] <knome> my experience is that the firefox instances usually die soon after that message is thrown
[21:07] <GridCube> yes, that is true
[21:07] <uBUXUBu> does chromium do that too?
[21:07] <knome> unless something is really stuck, which doesn't happen too often
[21:07] <uBUXUBu> i dont like that feature
[21:09] <knome> i don't know if chromium does that, or handles it the same way
[21:09] <uBUXUBu> ima try it
[21:09] <uBUXUBu> that hang is very annoying
[21:43] <uBUXUBu> can i change the color of the top bar that runs across my screen i prefer clear blue
[21:43] <uBUXUBu> this dull black thing is not gettin it done
[22:38] <sModelelle> Qu.before-Bedz :Is there any problem with using MoCA Coax Leads for Xubuntu 13.10  in terms of networking ? #rRandom |  http://i.imgur.com/pvYyPVZ.jpg?1  .. Iwill check the loggs on Sunday . 😊
[22:49] <xubuntu883> Hey is anyone online, i have a few questions
[22:49] <knome> !anyone | xubuntu883
[22:49] <knome> xubuntu883, welcome
[22:50] <xubuntu883> Hey
[22:51] <xubuntu883> Ive been thinking of converting to xubuntu and i was wondering if its a full system wipe or does it keep all my files safe ?
[22:51] <knome> that depends how you install; you should always back up data though
[22:52] <xubuntu883> okay cool, also if i do install it am i still able to play the games that i have on my pc or will i have to either get a linux version or go without?
[22:53] <knome> many games do not work on linux, because they are developed for other platforms
[22:53] <knome> there are ways to get them work, including emulators, and lately, steam
[22:54] <xubuntu883> most of my games are pirated, will they still work through steam or am I buggered?
[22:55] <knome> that's not really the scope of this channel, so please let's not continue further on that... but briefly, they won't work with steam, only games purchased from there will work
[22:56] <xubuntu883> Righteo, Thanks knome you have been a great help
[22:57] <uBUXUBu> omg a pirate
[22:57] <uBUXUBu> ive often wondered who u do  that
[22:57] <uBUXUBu> how*
[22:59] <knome> uBUXUBu, that's still not on the scope of this channel
[23:04] <uBUXUBu> i know i am surprised you guys talk about it here it is illegal
[23:04] <uBUXUBu> i prefer buntu over pirated OS
[23:04] <bazhang> !ot | uBUXUBu
[23:07] <CypherPunk39> Hey everyone