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debfan_i will be finally giving up on kubuntu today00:00
debfan_it's the only distro that my smartphone doesn't work on... i tried 13.04, 13.10 and 1400:00
valorieyou are using KDEConnect, or trying to install on your phone, debfan_00:01
valorie?00:01
debfan_i just want to access my files00:01
valorieah00:01
valorieodd, I was able to do that with my androids00:01
valorieold phone and new one both00:01
debfan_i'll probably install mint00:01
debfan_mine isn't old00:01
debfan_it's an htc00:02
valorieas are/were mine00:02
valoriewhat difficulties did you encounter?00:02
debfan_various ones00:02
debfan_1st, it doesn't detect it properly00:02
valorieI ran into that near the end of my old phone00:02
debfan_Open with File Manager is shown twice00:03
valorieit was on the phone end00:03
debfan_Android Phone:  The process for the mtp protocol died unexpectedly.00:03
valoriehad to tell it "be a disk drive" twice or even three times00:03
debfan_then i eventually get that msg00:03
valorieoh, that sucks00:03
valorieI didn't try to use it as mtp00:03
debfan_when it does detect, i cannot open a file... for e.g., a picture on the phone... gwenview tries to load forever00:03
valoriejust a plain USB00:03
debfan_can only use mtp now00:04
valorieyes, I get the "open with file manager" twice as well00:05
valoriebut it works00:05
valoriejust plugged in my shiny new htc one00:05
valoriepick a random song, click it, it starts up amarok00:06
valorieweird, amarok doesn't see the artist, just the song names00:08
valorieand you are right, it is seen as mtp00:08
valorieopens and plays in vlc though00:10
valoriefooey, the /media plugin doesn't see vlc, or I'd prove it00:10
valorieit finally showed up in amarok, but doesn't play00:12
valorieI'll ask about that in amarok, but it doesn't solve *your* problem00:13
valoriedebfan_: more to the point, a random photo opens up in gwenview in a tick00:19
valorievery fast00:19
valoriedebfan_: be sure to try a different cable before giving up00:20
valoriebad USB cables can give very weird results, and this has happened to me00:20
zacariasHi. In Banshee and Rythmbox most of the icons (including those of the menus) show just an "x" instead of the actual item. It must be a "no-gnome" punishment. Do you know how to solve this?00:31
zacariasI meant "the actual icon"00:31
valoriezacarias: it sounds like you don't have the actual icon available00:47
valorieno punishment, but perhaps you removed a file too far?00:47
uBUXUBuis unity available in kubuntu?00:59
valorieyou can install unity, but kubuntu is the KDE desktop, while unity is the Ubuntu desktop01:02
zacariasvalorie: probably. But what icon package should it be?01:02
valoriezacarias: no idea01:02
valoriebut really, you're not being punished01:02
valorieperhaps the banshee and rhythmbox chans could give you that info?01:03
zacariasvalorie: ok, thanks. I'll try and see what happens01:03
valorieboth apps are not really kubuntu applications01:03
valorieuBUXUBu: there are multiple desktops available - these are known as the 'flavors' of ubuntu01:03
debfan_how is it usb cables when I can boot up any of the my other operating systems and it works?01:06
debfan_nah, I wasted way too much time trying to get it to work01:07
debfan_I'll install something else01:07
debfan_I just thought maybe it's a bug ppl know about... oh well01:07
valoriedebfan_: it was just a thought01:09
valoriewhat can I say; works for me01:09
debfan_ok, bye01:11
debfan_thanks for your input01:11
uBUXUBuis there a flavor for kubuntu called unity valorie ?01:22
valorieuBUXUBu: kubuntu itself is a flavor of ubuntu, so no01:24
valoriekubuntu is a desktop on top of a ubuntu base01:24
valorieunity is a desktop on top of the ubuntu base01:24
valoriexubuntu is an xfce desktop on an ubuntu base01:24
valorieetc.01:25
valoriemost people choose because they like 1. the desktop and 2. most of the included applications01:25
valorieyou can always add and subtract applicatons, to any of the desktop flavors01:26
valoriesay you love amarok AND unity01:26
valoriethat's fine; you can use both01:26
valorieunity is the default choice for ubuntu, as gnome used to be01:27
valoriealso, we're all members of the same ubuntu community, and kubuntu also has their own kubuntu council, launchpad groups, lists, etc.01:28
valorielots of choices for ubuntu community folks01:28
uBUXUBucan we install unity on kubuntu01:30
uBUXUBui heard kubuntu is even easier than ubuntu but i like unity desktop01:30
valoriewhat I hear you saying is that you like unity the desktop and also like the kubuntu applications?01:31
uBUXUBu10-401:31
valorieI think the package you want is `unity-desktop'01:31
valoriesec and I'll check01:31
valorie!unity01:31
ubottuUnity is the default UI since Ubuntu 11.04.  Unity is a shell for GNOME. see http://unity.ubuntu.com. For a GNOME 2-like experience, see !notunity01:31
valoriepfff01:32
valorie!info unity-desktop01:32
ubottuPackage unity-desktop does not exist in saucy01:32
uBUXUBuwell i did notice for example the disk burner (k3b) is better than the default disk burner in ubuntu01:32
valorieuBUXUBu: I agree01:32
uBUXUButhus i get the impression kubuntu may be easier to use all the way around and only needs uninty to be perfect01:32
uBUXUBuunity*01:33
uBUXUBui like square icons with no words under them01:33
valorieah, I don't like that at all01:33
valorie<3 KDE01:33
uBUXUBuwhy not01:33
valoriejust taste, i suppose01:34
valoriei like the kubuntu way of working01:34
valorieso I prefer the desktop AND the apps01:34
valorietastes differ01:34
uBUXUBuis kubuntu the old way where the black bar across the top has the drop down menus?01:34
uBUXUBui recall trying the plasma desktop awhile back too01:35
valorieyes, that's the standard for KDE01:35
uBUXUBuplasma?01:35
valorieyes01:35
valoriebut black bar across the top? I've never seen that01:35
uBUXUButhat one was kinda cool01:35
valorie!ubuntu-desktop01:36
ubottuk/ed/x/l/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.01:36
valoriethere you do01:36
uBUXUBuim very shallow and into looks...01:36
valorieeither use muon or the cli to get ubuntu-desktop01:36
uBUXUBuahh so then i can install kubuntu and get my unity01:37
valoriethat's not shallow; we should all have tools which give us pleasure, I hope01:37
valorieuBUXUBu: what are you on now?01:37
uBUXUBuubuntu 12.0401:37
uBUXUBuand w7 pro01:37
uBUXUBuand w7 home prem01:37
uBUXUBuand xp pro01:37
uBUXUBuand vista business01:37
valorieso why not just upgrade your ubuntu, and then add the kde apps you like?01:38
valoriethat would be the least fuss01:38
uBUXUBuwell i did add k3b01:38
valorieok01:38
valorieall the applications are available to all ubuntu users, no matter what desktop they choose01:39
uBUXUBui installed SL on mine01:39
uBUXUBudid you ever play that valorie?01:39
valorieif you want to try out the latest kubuntu-desktop, you can do that as well01:39
valorienope, the only game I play is klondike01:40
uBUXUBuhmmm sounds like an ice cream deset i used to eat a few years ago01:40
uBUXUBudesert*01:40
uBUXUBuSL is an avatar game01:40
valorieheh, yes, there is an ice-cream bar with that name01:41
valorieit's just solitaire01:41
uBUXUBuSL is a virtual world01:41
uBUXUBuyou become an avatar that you create01:41
uBUXUBuand then you go about your life as that avatar...01:41
valorieoh, second life01:42
uBUXUBuwell...while you are in world that is01:42
valorieyes, I know some avid players01:42
uBUXUBuyou know them in RL or just online?01:42
valorieis there a difference?01:42
uBUXUBuwell only in as you can see their face01:43
valoriewhen I meet people face to face i've known online, there is little difference01:43
uBUXUBui have never met anyone from online01:43
valorieI flew to Paris years ago to stay with one of my friends whom I only knew 'online'01:43
valoriebut really, I see little difference01:43
uBUXUBugod too know01:44
uBUXUBugood*01:44
valorieI've met LOTS, over the years01:44
uBUXUBusheesh01:44
valorieespecially KDE and Kubuntu folks01:44
mysteriousdarrenvalorie: moral of the story you got taken to the cleaners.......and won't ever do that again?01:44
mysteriousdarrenjk01:44
valoriegreat people, one and all01:44
uBUXUBuSL installs nicely in buntu01:44
valorieha, my friend took me to his mom's house so I could do my wash01:44
valoriewe couldn't find a cleaners01:44
valorieLOL01:44
uBUXUBudid you fall in love too valorie?01:45
valorieoh no, I was just visiting01:45
valorieI'm already married01:45
* valorie is a grandma01:45
uBUXUBuyeah me too01:45
uBUXUBuwell im not a grandma01:46
valorieI met my husband long before there was an internet01:46
valoriebut I need to go and eat NOW01:46
uBUXUBuok01:46
valorienice talking with you01:46
uBUXUBuchew long and slow01:46
valoriehave fun with your computer01:46
uBUXUBucya01:46
valorie:-)01:46
mysteriousdarrenback when people talked to each other not sit in a room alone and stare at a screen01:46
uBUXUBuis kubuntu as fast as ubuntu?01:47
uBUXUBuyears ago i heard it was a bit slower01:47
mysteriousdarrenit is slower....even slower than lubuntu01:48
uBUXUBuwell almost everything is a bit slower than lubuntu01:48
mysteriousdarrenDepends on what you like. Base install>lubuntu>everything else01:50
uBUXUBuwow i diditnhave to do all that sudo apt sheeaat02:23
uBUXUBuwireless mouse works02:23
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aromalhi i have a asus P5G41T-MLX3 mother board for my pc - i am able to find audio mixer settings for 2.1 channel but not able to find or enable other channel settings? is there is way to enable other channels settings in mixer - Kmix is the default07:13
aromalwhere do i find channel seetings for other than 2.1 in kmix?07:14
aromali mean like 6 channels settings i am using asus P5G41TMLX3 mother board for my pc07:16
aromali have installed kubuntu 13.0 but can't find a mixer for 6 channels07:17
aromalis it normal or how to enable the settings?07:18
aromalplease help..07:18
valoriearomal: you might try #kde-multimedia , but first: have you tried the pavucontrol widget?07:22
valorieor maybe it's called veromix07:23
Ab3Lwhere do i set a static ip address for my wifi interface in kubuntu 13.10?07:36
valorieAb3L: in the connection widget07:38
valorielooks very simple, but there is a wrench icon07:38
valoriein that dialog, choose the connection and set it up there07:39
Ab3Lok. than i click on a green disk and open a window with a list and choose the network and click on modify. right?07:40
valorieright07:41
valorieI've not used it a lot yet, but that seems right07:41
valoriethere was a lot of discussion at first about the minimalist interface, but .... I like it, and it works for me07:42
Ab3Lfor me, it's because the router i've got is not mine. my isp lends me and i need so because my isp is also that one that give me a descent tv access. the problem is that this week they've given me a new router and it is impossible to do all setting as the old one.07:51
Ab3Land i didn't remember where to set a static ip. (a static ip can solve some problems in my home network, so that i don't have to set again and again nfs each time my isp make an update of the firmware)07:53
valorieAb3L: did you find it in the widget dialogs?07:56
Ab3Li think so07:56
Ab3Lbut i'm not able to find out gateway number07:56
valorie!wireless07:58
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs07:58
valoriethere is a lot of useful info in there, Ab3L07:58
Ab3Lthank you, valorie07:58
valorieubottu has a lot of useful info, and anybody can use the bot07:59
ubottuvalorie: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)07:59
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Ab3Lvalorie: gotcha! "Gateway address: 192.168.1.1 - this is usually your router's internal IP address. "08:06
valoriecool08:06
Ab3Lnow i think i've to restart the wifi card before change have effect, right?08:07
Ab3Lok08:07
valoriethat I don't know08:07
Ab3Li think it is so, because i've always the old ip address.08:08
valorieit's more likely that you have to log out of KDE and back in08:08
Ab3Lok. goodbye08:08
valorieor just restart the computer08:08
valoriebye, and good luck08:08
Ab3Lvalorie: can you read me?08:19
valorieyup!08:19
valoriewelcome back Ab3L08:19
Ab3Lgreat! seems it works08:19
Ab3Lthank you08:20
valorieyou are so welcome08:20
Ab3Lnow i just need to find out some ip address of dns servers (8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 of google seem not work anymore, and those of my isp are too slow)08:26
rufsketch1!!nvidia08:26
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto08:26
rufsketch1What is the correct way to install the closed source nvidia drivers?08:27
valorierufsketch1: ubottu just told ya08:28
rufsketch1valorie, okay cool. Just making sure08:28
valorieAb3L: this might help: http://www.opennicproject.org/configure-your-dns/how-to-set-up-dns-servers-in-ubuntu-linux/08:28
rufsketch1valorie, well, except that the nvidia guide links to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia08:29
valoriealthough the actual actions aren't up-to-date or for kubuntu, but the main points should still be good08:29
rufsketch1which seems to reference ubuntu exclusive software08:29
rufsketch1I take it I should go with the command line instruction in that link?08:29
valorie!jockey08:29
valorie!info jockey-kde08:30
valoriepfff08:30
rufsketch1ah, I see08:30
valorie!info kde-jockey08:30
ubottujockey-kde (source: jockey): KDE user interface and desktop integration for driver management. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.7-0ubuntu15 (saucy), package size 9 kB, installed size 112 kB08:30
ubottuPackage kde-jockey does not exist in saucy08:30
valoriehmmm08:30
valorieso ubottu is of two minds about jockey08:30
valorieafaik, it still works08:30
rufsketch1valorie, any clue as to which of these drivers was created after the valve optimizations?08:33
rufsketch1valorie, I'm given four options08:34
valoriehmmm, not08:35
valorieI mean no08:35
valorieI guess i would google a bit before choosing08:35
rufsketch1valorie, how unwise is it to use the very latest drivers provided by the nvidia website?08:36
valorieI've not heard of anything bad happening08:38
valorieI guess again, google will be your friend08:38
valorieI never mess with drivers anymore08:38
valoriebut I'm not a gamer08:38
rufsketch1okay, thnx08:39
Ab3Lvalorie: thx again.08:39
Ab3Lbye. (going for gym now)08:40
valoriebye!08:40
valorienice to meetcha08:40
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posthumanhi ... im running kubuntu 12.04 ... where can i find options to configure ipsec (client) ?10:19
xtrizwhat's the real difference between kubuntu 12.04 and 13.10 ?11:32
xtrizthe difference i know is about 12.04 uses older kernel with respect to 13.1011:34
xtrizother than that ?11:34
lordievaderGood afternoon.12:14
BluesKajHey folks13:08
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xtrizwhat's the real difference between kubuntu 12.04 and 13.10 ?14:57
xtrizpls someone reply :/14:57
chozabu13.10 has newer versions of everything14:59
BluesKajxtriz: 13.10 has upgraded packages andis not a LTS , whereas 12.04 is LTS, any more detail required is available in release notes on the web14:59
chozabumore details here http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-13.1014:59
BluesKaj!LTS | xtriz15:00
ubottuxtriz: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)15:00
xtrizchozabu, BluesKaj ok :)15:00
chozabuso, if you want a stable OS for 5 years, perhaps 12.04, if you want new stuff, perhaps 13.1015:01
BluesKaj5 yrs for the server , not the desktop15:02
BluesKaj3 yrs for the desktop15:03
xtrizhttp://www.kubuntu.org/news/lts-update-12043-released15:05
xtrizno information is given here15:05
xtrizhow can i find which version of kde it has ?15:05
BluesKajxtriz:  open dolphin, choose help>about kde15:16
xtrizBluesKaj, i am not using kubuntu server, than how can i know ?15:16
BluesKajxtriz: in the terminal , lsb_release -a15:18
Whiskey`Wonkaanyone know the diff between lsb-release and lsb-core ?15:25
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Zensursula#libreoffice16:18
posthumanhey guys ... i have a problem connecting my ubuntu machine via ipsec/l2tpd  to my server  ... my mobile device works just perfect so i cant really figure out whats wrong16:33
posthumanins syslog it says sent [LCP TermReq id=0x3 "peer refused to authenticate"]16:33
k0sПривет хацкеры16:45
bjrohanHey everyone. On my wife's laptop, I recenly upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10. This resulted in her login losing her desktop wallpaper, and widgets, my login remained intact. In her account if I go into her .kde directory, I can find the wallpaper image she "lost" leading me to believe everything else is there, I just need to change a config file to get it back, any suggestions?17:38
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bjrohanHey everyone. On my wife's laptop, I recenly upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10. This resulted in her login losing her desktop wallpaper, and widgets, my login remained intact. In her account if I go into her .kde directory, I can find the wallpaper image she "lost" leading me to believe everything else is there, I just need to change a config file to get it back, any suggestions?19:17
BadDesignDoes anyone know if there is some bug in Kubuntu 13.10 x86_64 related to NOT being able to read data CDs/DVDs ?19:39
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soeebjrohan: this is not a good suggestion but after upgrades i sometimes eprerience some problems, than i just have to reset my account settings and set it up again to make it work as it should20:25
bjrohanYeah, I had figured.  One not so big issue was that she had a note widget with notes in it, which I can't find where the notes were stored, to be able to put those back. Any ideas there either? It is the Desktop Sticky Notes widget20:28
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pdobrogostHi! How can I make shortuct to shell script on desktop?21:48
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vbgunz_can someone tell me, how I can find out what my audio hardware is so I can try downloading drivers for it?23:09
vbgunz_my microphone is killing me. It works perfectly flawless in Windows 7 on this box, yet on this box, Kubuntu, Debian, Fedora all have this crackling sound it likes to add to the microphone. wtf. Why is Linux getting it so wrong?23:28
vbgunz_I've played with all types of audio settings and I'm just not solving this problem that seems shouldn't exist in 200023:29
vbgunz_in alsamixer, if I unmute the mic so I can hear it immediately, it sounds super perfect. If I use a program like Audacity or Mumble or Google Talk, the static popping sound can be heard23:30
vbgunz_it's been driving me up the wall for a while23:30
vbgunz_I've found this online and added it to my alsa-base.conf "options snd-hda-intel position_fix=2 bdl_pos_adj=-1"  and although it got rid of the the static popping, it introduced audio both input and output to chop itself off every other 1/10 second23:31
dolomiteis this onboard sound or an add-on card?23:33
vbgunz_onboard23:33
dolomitedo you know your system specs? i.e. what card it is?23:33
dolomiterealtek?23:33
vbgunz_dolomite: I asked earlier how I can find that out, was seriously convinced I would need to download drivers23:34
vbgunz_I mean audio in every other respect on the system, music, movies, games, etc, everything works and sounds great BUT the microphone... it has this static that just shouldn't exists23:34
dolomiteand you've completely ruled out the possibility of the mic itself being faulty?23:35
vbgunz_what kills me is if in alsamixer, I unmute the mic, the immediate loopback is flawless BUT recording audio in any application causes static23:35
dolomite"sudo lshw" should point you to the details of the onboard sound23:35
dolomitealthough i suspect you will have little to no luck finding a driver solution23:36
vbgunz_dolomite: I am pretty convinced the mic is not broken23:36
dolomiteif you run that command and at least find out what your hardware is, you can do a more detailed search on the web23:36
vbgunz_ok23:37
dolomiteif it's not the microphone, someone else has probably had the same issue23:37
vbgunz_that list is long23:37
vbgunz_I'm going over it23:37
dolomite"sudo aplay -l" might be more precise23:38
vbgunz_description: Audio device23:38
vbgunz_hmm. I'm thinking I have a clue all of a sudden.23:39
vbgunz_I want to try something, I need to reboot, I will let you know what happens23:39
dolomiteok23:39
vbgunzI thought it was the HDMI cable. I thought sound drivers were loading up for it and probably interfering with the onboard drivers... I removed the HDMI and rebooted but the audio issue is still there23:44
vbgunzsucks to no end23:44
vbgunzaplay -l, shows 6 entries on I am guessing two cards23:45
vbgunz1 I would suspect is onboard and the other is the nvidia card23:46
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dolomitenvidia gfx card with hdmi vbgunz ?23:59

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