debfan_ | i will be finally giving up on kubuntu today | 00:00 |
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debfan_ | it's the only distro that my smartphone doesn't work on... i tried 13.04, 13.10 and 14 | 00:00 |
valorie | you are using KDEConnect, or trying to install on your phone, debfan_ | 00:01 |
valorie | ? | 00:01 |
debfan_ | i just want to access my files | 00:01 |
valorie | ah | 00:01 |
valorie | odd, I was able to do that with my androids | 00:01 |
valorie | old phone and new one both | 00:01 |
debfan_ | i'll probably install mint | 00:01 |
debfan_ | mine isn't old | 00:01 |
debfan_ | it's an htc | 00:02 |
valorie | as are/were mine | 00:02 |
valorie | what difficulties did you encounter? | 00:02 |
debfan_ | various ones | 00:02 |
debfan_ | 1st, it doesn't detect it properly | 00:02 |
valorie | I ran into that near the end of my old phone | 00:02 |
debfan_ | Open with File Manager is shown twice | 00:03 |
valorie | it was on the phone end | 00:03 |
debfan_ | Android Phone: The process for the mtp protocol died unexpectedly. | 00:03 |
valorie | had to tell it "be a disk drive" twice or even three times | 00:03 |
debfan_ | then i eventually get that msg | 00:03 |
valorie | oh, that sucks | 00:03 |
valorie | I didn't try to use it as mtp | 00:03 |
debfan_ | when it does detect, i cannot open a file... for e.g., a picture on the phone... gwenview tries to load forever | 00:03 |
valorie | just a plain USB | 00:03 |
debfan_ | can only use mtp now | 00:04 |
valorie | yes, I get the "open with file manager" twice as well | 00:05 |
valorie | but it works | 00:05 |
valorie | just plugged in my shiny new htc one | 00:05 |
valorie | pick a random song, click it, it starts up amarok | 00:06 |
valorie | weird, amarok doesn't see the artist, just the song names | 00:08 |
valorie | and you are right, it is seen as mtp | 00:08 |
valorie | opens and plays in vlc though | 00:10 |
valorie | fooey, the /media plugin doesn't see vlc, or I'd prove it | 00:10 |
valorie | it finally showed up in amarok, but doesn't play | 00:12 |
valorie | I'll ask about that in amarok, but it doesn't solve *your* problem | 00:13 |
valorie | debfan_: more to the point, a random photo opens up in gwenview in a tick | 00:19 |
valorie | very fast | 00:19 |
valorie | debfan_: be sure to try a different cable before giving up | 00:20 |
valorie | bad USB cables can give very weird results, and this has happened to me | 00:20 |
zacarias | Hi. In Banshee and Rythmbox most of the icons (including those of the menus) show just an "x" instead of the actual item. It must be a "no-gnome" punishment. Do you know how to solve this? | 00:31 |
zacarias | I meant "the actual icon" | 00:31 |
valorie | zacarias: it sounds like you don't have the actual icon available | 00:47 |
valorie | no punishment, but perhaps you removed a file too far? | 00:47 |
uBUXUBu | is unity available in kubuntu? | 00:59 |
valorie | you can install unity, but kubuntu is the KDE desktop, while unity is the Ubuntu desktop | 01:02 |
zacarias | valorie: probably. But what icon package should it be? | 01:02 |
valorie | zacarias: no idea | 01:02 |
valorie | but really, you're not being punished | 01:02 |
valorie | perhaps the banshee and rhythmbox chans could give you that info? | 01:03 |
zacarias | valorie: ok, thanks. I'll try and see what happens | 01:03 |
valorie | both apps are not really kubuntu applications | 01:03 |
valorie | uBUXUBu: there are multiple desktops available - these are known as the 'flavors' of ubuntu | 01:03 |
debfan_ | how is it usb cables when I can boot up any of the my other operating systems and it works? | 01:06 |
debfan_ | nah, I wasted way too much time trying to get it to work | 01:07 |
debfan_ | I'll install something else | 01:07 |
debfan_ | I just thought maybe it's a bug ppl know about... oh well | 01:07 |
valorie | debfan_: it was just a thought | 01:09 |
valorie | what can I say; works for me | 01:09 |
debfan_ | ok, bye | 01:11 |
debfan_ | thanks for your input | 01:11 |
uBUXUBu | is there a flavor for kubuntu called unity valorie ? | 01:22 |
valorie | uBUXUBu: kubuntu itself is a flavor of ubuntu, so no | 01:24 |
valorie | kubuntu is a desktop on top of a ubuntu base | 01:24 |
valorie | unity is a desktop on top of the ubuntu base | 01:24 |
valorie | xubuntu is an xfce desktop on an ubuntu base | 01:24 |
valorie | etc. | 01:25 |
valorie | most people choose because they like 1. the desktop and 2. most of the included applications | 01:25 |
valorie | you can always add and subtract applicatons, to any of the desktop flavors | 01:26 |
valorie | say you love amarok AND unity | 01:26 |
valorie | that's fine; you can use both | 01:26 |
valorie | unity is the default choice for ubuntu, as gnome used to be | 01:27 |
valorie | also, we're all members of the same ubuntu community, and kubuntu also has their own kubuntu council, launchpad groups, lists, etc. | 01:28 |
valorie | lots of choices for ubuntu community folks | 01:28 |
uBUXUBu | can we install unity on kubuntu | 01:30 |
uBUXUBu | i heard kubuntu is even easier than ubuntu but i like unity desktop | 01:30 |
valorie | what I hear you saying is that you like unity the desktop and also like the kubuntu applications? | 01:31 |
uBUXUBu | 10-4 | 01:31 |
valorie | I think the package you want is `unity-desktop' | 01:31 |
valorie | sec and I'll check | 01:31 |
valorie | !unity | 01:31 |
ubottu | Unity is the default UI since Ubuntu 11.04. Unity is a shell for GNOME. see http://unity.ubuntu.com. For a GNOME 2-like experience, see !notunity | 01:31 |
valorie | pfff | 01:32 |
valorie | !info unity-desktop | 01:32 |
ubottu | Package unity-desktop does not exist in saucy | 01:32 |
uBUXUBu | well i did notice for example the disk burner (k3b) is better than the default disk burner in ubuntu | 01:32 |
valorie | uBUXUBu: I agree | 01:32 |
uBUXUBu | thus i get the impression kubuntu may be easier to use all the way around and only needs uninty to be perfect | 01:32 |
uBUXUBu | unity* | 01:33 |
uBUXUBu | i like square icons with no words under them | 01:33 |
valorie | ah, I don't like that at all | 01:33 |
valorie | <3 KDE | 01:33 |
uBUXUBu | why not | 01:33 |
valorie | just taste, i suppose | 01:34 |
valorie | i like the kubuntu way of working | 01:34 |
valorie | so I prefer the desktop AND the apps | 01:34 |
valorie | tastes differ | 01:34 |
uBUXUBu | is kubuntu the old way where the black bar across the top has the drop down menus? | 01:34 |
uBUXUBu | i recall trying the plasma desktop awhile back too | 01:35 |
valorie | yes, that's the standard for KDE | 01:35 |
uBUXUBu | plasma? | 01:35 |
valorie | yes | 01:35 |
valorie | but black bar across the top? I've never seen that | 01:35 |
uBUXUBu | that one was kinda cool | 01:35 |
valorie | !ubuntu-desktop | 01:36 |
ubottu | k/ed/x/l/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading. | 01:36 |
valorie | there you do | 01:36 |
uBUXUBu | im very shallow and into looks... | 01:36 |
valorie | either use muon or the cli to get ubuntu-desktop | 01:36 |
uBUXUBu | ahh so then i can install kubuntu and get my unity | 01:37 |
valorie | that's not shallow; we should all have tools which give us pleasure, I hope | 01:37 |
valorie | uBUXUBu: what are you on now? | 01:37 |
uBUXUBu | ubuntu 12.04 | 01:37 |
uBUXUBu | and w7 pro | 01:37 |
uBUXUBu | and w7 home prem | 01:37 |
uBUXUBu | and xp pro | 01:37 |
uBUXUBu | and vista business | 01:37 |
valorie | so why not just upgrade your ubuntu, and then add the kde apps you like? | 01:38 |
valorie | that would be the least fuss | 01:38 |
uBUXUBu | well i did add k3b | 01:38 |
valorie | ok | 01:38 |
valorie | all the applications are available to all ubuntu users, no matter what desktop they choose | 01:39 |
uBUXUBu | i installed SL on mine | 01:39 |
uBUXUBu | did you ever play that valorie? | 01:39 |
valorie | if you want to try out the latest kubuntu-desktop, you can do that as well | 01:39 |
valorie | nope, the only game I play is klondike | 01:40 |
uBUXUBu | hmmm sounds like an ice cream deset i used to eat a few years ago | 01:40 |
uBUXUBu | desert* | 01:40 |
uBUXUBu | SL is an avatar game | 01:40 |
valorie | heh, yes, there is an ice-cream bar with that name | 01:41 |
valorie | it's just solitaire | 01:41 |
uBUXUBu | SL is a virtual world | 01:41 |
uBUXUBu | you become an avatar that you create | 01:41 |
uBUXUBu | and then you go about your life as that avatar... | 01:41 |
valorie | oh, second life | 01:42 |
uBUXUBu | well...while you are in world that is | 01:42 |
valorie | yes, I know some avid players | 01:42 |
uBUXUBu | you know them in RL or just online? | 01:42 |
valorie | is there a difference? | 01:42 |
uBUXUBu | well only in as you can see their face | 01:43 |
valorie | when I meet people face to face i've known online, there is little difference | 01:43 |
uBUXUBu | i have never met anyone from online | 01:43 |
valorie | I flew to Paris years ago to stay with one of my friends whom I only knew 'online' | 01:43 |
valorie | but really, I see little difference | 01:43 |
uBUXUBu | god too know | 01:44 |
uBUXUBu | good* | 01:44 |
valorie | I've met LOTS, over the years | 01:44 |
uBUXUBu | sheesh | 01:44 |
valorie | especially KDE and Kubuntu folks | 01:44 |
mysteriousdarren | valorie: moral of the story you got taken to the cleaners.......and won't ever do that again? | 01:44 |
mysteriousdarren | jk | 01:44 |
valorie | great people, one and all | 01:44 |
uBUXUBu | SL installs nicely in buntu | 01:44 |
valorie | ha, my friend took me to his mom's house so I could do my wash | 01:44 |
valorie | we couldn't find a cleaners | 01:44 |
valorie | LOL | 01:44 |
uBUXUBu | did you fall in love too valorie? | 01:45 |
valorie | oh no, I was just visiting | 01:45 |
valorie | I'm already married | 01:45 |
* valorie is a grandma | 01:45 | |
uBUXUBu | yeah me too | 01:45 |
uBUXUBu | well im not a grandma | 01:46 |
valorie | I met my husband long before there was an internet | 01:46 |
valorie | but I need to go and eat NOW | 01:46 |
uBUXUBu | ok | 01:46 |
valorie | nice talking with you | 01:46 |
uBUXUBu | chew long and slow | 01:46 |
valorie | have fun with your computer | 01:46 |
uBUXUBu | cya | 01:46 |
valorie | :-) | 01:46 |
mysteriousdarren | back when people talked to each other not sit in a room alone and stare at a screen | 01:46 |
uBUXUBu | is kubuntu as fast as ubuntu? | 01:47 |
uBUXUBu | years ago i heard it was a bit slower | 01:47 |
mysteriousdarren | it is slower....even slower than lubuntu | 01:48 |
uBUXUBu | well almost everything is a bit slower than lubuntu | 01:48 |
mysteriousdarren | Depends on what you like. Base install>lubuntu>everything else | 01:50 |
uBUXUBu | wow i diditnhave to do all that sudo apt sheeaat | 02:23 |
uBUXUBu | wireless mouse works | 02:23 |
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aromal | hi i have a asus P5G41T-MLX3 mother board for my pc - i am able to find audio mixer settings for 2.1 channel but not able to find or enable other channel settings? is there is way to enable other channels settings in mixer - Kmix is the default | 07:13 |
aromal | where do i find channel seetings for other than 2.1 in kmix? | 07:14 |
aromal | i mean like 6 channels settings i am using asus P5G41TMLX3 mother board for my pc | 07:16 |
aromal | i have installed kubuntu 13.0 but can't find a mixer for 6 channels | 07:17 |
aromal | is it normal or how to enable the settings? | 07:18 |
aromal | please help.. | 07:18 |
valorie | aromal: you might try #kde-multimedia , but first: have you tried the pavucontrol widget? | 07:22 |
valorie | or maybe it's called veromix | 07:23 |
Ab3L | where do i set a static ip address for my wifi interface in kubuntu 13.10? | 07:36 |
valorie | Ab3L: in the connection widget | 07:38 |
valorie | looks very simple, but there is a wrench icon | 07:38 |
valorie | in that dialog, choose the connection and set it up there | 07:39 |
Ab3L | ok. than i click on a green disk and open a window with a list and choose the network and click on modify. right? | 07:40 |
valorie | right | 07:41 |
valorie | I've not used it a lot yet, but that seems right | 07:41 |
valorie | there was a lot of discussion at first about the minimalist interface, but .... I like it, and it works for me | 07:42 |
Ab3L | for me, it's because the router i've got is not mine. my isp lends me and i need so because my isp is also that one that give me a descent tv access. the problem is that this week they've given me a new router and it is impossible to do all setting as the old one. | 07:51 |
Ab3L | and i didn't remember where to set a static ip. (a static ip can solve some problems in my home network, so that i don't have to set again and again nfs each time my isp make an update of the firmware) | 07:53 |
valorie | Ab3L: did you find it in the widget dialogs? | 07:56 |
Ab3L | i think so | 07:56 |
Ab3L | but i'm not able to find out gateway number | 07:56 |
valorie | !wireless | 07:58 |
ubottu | Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs | 07:58 |
valorie | there is a lot of useful info in there, Ab3L | 07:58 |
Ab3L | thank you, valorie | 07:58 |
valorie | ubottu has a lot of useful info, and anybody can use the bot | 07:59 |
ubottu | valorie: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 07:59 |
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Ab3L | valorie: gotcha! "Gateway address: 192.168.1.1 - this is usually your router's internal IP address. " | 08:06 |
valorie | cool | 08:06 |
Ab3L | now i think i've to restart the wifi card before change have effect, right? | 08:07 |
Ab3L | ok | 08:07 |
valorie | that I don't know | 08:07 |
Ab3L | i think it is so, because i've always the old ip address. | 08:08 |
valorie | it's more likely that you have to log out of KDE and back in | 08:08 |
Ab3L | ok. goodbye | 08:08 |
valorie | or just restart the computer | 08:08 |
valorie | bye, and good luck | 08:08 |
Ab3L | valorie: can you read me? | 08:19 |
valorie | yup! | 08:19 |
valorie | welcome back Ab3L | 08:19 |
Ab3L | great! seems it works | 08:19 |
Ab3L | thank you | 08:20 |
valorie | you are so welcome | 08:20 |
Ab3L | now i just need to find out some ip address of dns servers (8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 of google seem not work anymore, and those of my isp are too slow) | 08:26 |
rufsketch1 | !!nvidia | 08:26 |
ubottu | For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto | 08:26 |
rufsketch1 | What is the correct way to install the closed source nvidia drivers? | 08:27 |
valorie | rufsketch1: ubottu just told ya | 08:28 |
rufsketch1 | valorie, okay cool. Just making sure | 08:28 |
valorie | Ab3L: this might help: http://www.opennicproject.org/configure-your-dns/how-to-set-up-dns-servers-in-ubuntu-linux/ | 08:28 |
rufsketch1 | valorie, well, except that the nvidia guide links to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia | 08:29 |
valorie | although the actual actions aren't up-to-date or for kubuntu, but the main points should still be good | 08:29 |
rufsketch1 | which seems to reference ubuntu exclusive software | 08:29 |
rufsketch1 | I take it I should go with the command line instruction in that link? | 08:29 |
valorie | !jockey | 08:29 |
valorie | !info jockey-kde | 08:30 |
valorie | pfff | 08:30 |
rufsketch1 | ah, I see | 08:30 |
valorie | !info kde-jockey | 08:30 |
ubottu | jockey-kde (source: jockey): KDE user interface and desktop integration for driver management. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.7-0ubuntu15 (saucy), package size 9 kB, installed size 112 kB | 08:30 |
ubottu | Package kde-jockey does not exist in saucy | 08:30 |
valorie | hmmm | 08:30 |
valorie | so ubottu is of two minds about jockey | 08:30 |
valorie | afaik, it still works | 08:30 |
rufsketch1 | valorie, any clue as to which of these drivers was created after the valve optimizations? | 08:33 |
rufsketch1 | valorie, I'm given four options | 08:34 |
valorie | hmmm, not | 08:35 |
valorie | I mean no | 08:35 |
valorie | I guess i would google a bit before choosing | 08:35 |
rufsketch1 | valorie, how unwise is it to use the very latest drivers provided by the nvidia website? | 08:36 |
valorie | I've not heard of anything bad happening | 08:38 |
valorie | I guess again, google will be your friend | 08:38 |
valorie | I never mess with drivers anymore | 08:38 |
valorie | but I'm not a gamer | 08:38 |
rufsketch1 | okay, thnx | 08:39 |
Ab3L | valorie: thx again. | 08:39 |
Ab3L | bye. (going for gym now) | 08:40 |
valorie | bye! | 08:40 |
valorie | nice to meetcha | 08:40 |
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posthuman | hi ... im running kubuntu 12.04 ... where can i find options to configure ipsec (client) ? | 10:19 |
xtriz | what's the real difference between kubuntu 12.04 and 13.10 ? | 11:32 |
xtriz | the difference i know is about 12.04 uses older kernel with respect to 13.10 | 11:34 |
xtriz | other than that ? | 11:34 |
lordievader | Good afternoon. | 12:14 |
BluesKaj | Hey folks | 13:08 |
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xtriz | what's the real difference between kubuntu 12.04 and 13.10 ? | 14:57 |
xtriz | pls someone reply :/ | 14:57 |
chozabu | 13.10 has newer versions of everything | 14:59 |
BluesKaj | xtriz: 13.10 has upgraded packages andis not a LTS , whereas 12.04 is LTS, any more detail required is available in release notes on the web | 14:59 |
chozabu | more details here http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-13.10 | 14:59 |
BluesKaj | !LTS | xtriz | 15:00 |
ubottu | xtriz: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04) | 15:00 |
xtriz | chozabu, BluesKaj ok :) | 15:00 |
chozabu | so, if you want a stable OS for 5 years, perhaps 12.04, if you want new stuff, perhaps 13.10 | 15:01 |
BluesKaj | 5 yrs for the server , not the desktop | 15:02 |
BluesKaj | 3 yrs for the desktop | 15:03 |
xtriz | http://www.kubuntu.org/news/lts-update-12043-released | 15:05 |
xtriz | no information is given here | 15:05 |
xtriz | how can i find which version of kde it has ? | 15:05 |
BluesKaj | xtriz: open dolphin, choose help>about kde | 15:16 |
xtriz | BluesKaj, i am not using kubuntu server, than how can i know ? | 15:16 |
BluesKaj | xtriz: in the terminal , lsb_release -a | 15:18 |
Whiskey`Wonka | anyone know the diff between lsb-release and lsb-core ? | 15:25 |
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Zensursula | #libreoffice | 16:18 |
posthuman | hey guys ... i have a problem connecting my ubuntu machine via ipsec/l2tpd to my server ... my mobile device works just perfect so i cant really figure out whats wrong | 16:33 |
posthuman | ins syslog it says sent [LCP TermReq id=0x3 "peer refused to authenticate"] | 16:33 |
k0s | Привет хацкеры | 16:45 |
bjrohan | Hey everyone. On my wife's laptop, I recenly upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10. This resulted in her login losing her desktop wallpaper, and widgets, my login remained intact. In her account if I go into her .kde directory, I can find the wallpaper image she "lost" leading me to believe everything else is there, I just need to change a config file to get it back, any suggestions? | 17:38 |
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bjrohan | Hey everyone. On my wife's laptop, I recenly upgraded from 13.04 to 13.10. This resulted in her login losing her desktop wallpaper, and widgets, my login remained intact. In her account if I go into her .kde directory, I can find the wallpaper image she "lost" leading me to believe everything else is there, I just need to change a config file to get it back, any suggestions? | 19:17 |
BadDesign | Does anyone know if there is some bug in Kubuntu 13.10 x86_64 related to NOT being able to read data CDs/DVDs ? | 19:39 |
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soee | bjrohan: this is not a good suggestion but after upgrades i sometimes eprerience some problems, than i just have to reset my account settings and set it up again to make it work as it should | 20:25 |
bjrohan | Yeah, I had figured. One not so big issue was that she had a note widget with notes in it, which I can't find where the notes were stored, to be able to put those back. Any ideas there either? It is the Desktop Sticky Notes widget | 20:28 |
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pdobrogost | Hi! How can I make shortuct to shell script on desktop? | 21:48 |
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vbgunz_ | can someone tell me, how I can find out what my audio hardware is so I can try downloading drivers for it? | 23:09 |
vbgunz_ | my microphone is killing me. It works perfectly flawless in Windows 7 on this box, yet on this box, Kubuntu, Debian, Fedora all have this crackling sound it likes to add to the microphone. wtf. Why is Linux getting it so wrong? | 23:28 |
vbgunz_ | I've played with all types of audio settings and I'm just not solving this problem that seems shouldn't exist in 2000 | 23:29 |
vbgunz_ | in alsamixer, if I unmute the mic so I can hear it immediately, it sounds super perfect. If I use a program like Audacity or Mumble or Google Talk, the static popping sound can be heard | 23:30 |
vbgunz_ | it's been driving me up the wall for a while | 23:30 |
vbgunz_ | I've found this online and added it to my alsa-base.conf "options snd-hda-intel position_fix=2 bdl_pos_adj=-1" and although it got rid of the the static popping, it introduced audio both input and output to chop itself off every other 1/10 second | 23:31 |
dolomite | is this onboard sound or an add-on card? | 23:33 |
vbgunz_ | onboard | 23:33 |
dolomite | do you know your system specs? i.e. what card it is? | 23:33 |
dolomite | realtek? | 23:33 |
vbgunz_ | dolomite: I asked earlier how I can find that out, was seriously convinced I would need to download drivers | 23:34 |
vbgunz_ | I mean audio in every other respect on the system, music, movies, games, etc, everything works and sounds great BUT the microphone... it has this static that just shouldn't exists | 23:34 |
dolomite | and you've completely ruled out the possibility of the mic itself being faulty? | 23:35 |
vbgunz_ | what kills me is if in alsamixer, I unmute the mic, the immediate loopback is flawless BUT recording audio in any application causes static | 23:35 |
dolomite | "sudo lshw" should point you to the details of the onboard sound | 23:35 |
dolomite | although i suspect you will have little to no luck finding a driver solution | 23:36 |
vbgunz_ | dolomite: I am pretty convinced the mic is not broken | 23:36 |
dolomite | if you run that command and at least find out what your hardware is, you can do a more detailed search on the web | 23:36 |
vbgunz_ | ok | 23:37 |
dolomite | if it's not the microphone, someone else has probably had the same issue | 23:37 |
vbgunz_ | that list is long | 23:37 |
vbgunz_ | I'm going over it | 23:37 |
dolomite | "sudo aplay -l" might be more precise | 23:38 |
vbgunz_ | description: Audio device | 23:38 |
vbgunz_ | hmm. I'm thinking I have a clue all of a sudden. | 23:39 |
vbgunz_ | I want to try something, I need to reboot, I will let you know what happens | 23:39 |
dolomite | ok | 23:39 |
vbgunz | I thought it was the HDMI cable. I thought sound drivers were loading up for it and probably interfering with the onboard drivers... I removed the HDMI and rebooted but the audio issue is still there | 23:44 |
vbgunz | sucks to no end | 23:44 |
vbgunz | aplay -l, shows 6 entries on I am guessing two cards | 23:45 |
vbgunz | 1 I would suspect is onboard and the other is the nvidia card | 23:46 |
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dolomite | nvidia gfx card with hdmi vbgunz ? | 23:59 |
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