| Kilos | hi superfly and others | 05:57 |
|---|---|---|
| kbmonkey | hello hello | 06:05 |
| kbmonkey | Kilos, I am eating big fat red grapes | 06:06 |
| Kilos | ooo yummy kbmonkey | 06:07 |
| Kilos | morning | 06:07 |
| superfly | morning Kilos and kbmonkey | 06:07 |
| kbmonkey | morning Kilos and superfly | 06:07 |
| Kilos | best way to enjoy grapes, much healthier than waiting for them to forment first | 06:08 |
| * superfly gets things ready for church | 06:08 | |
| superfly | later folks | 06:08 |
| Kilos | pray for us please superfly | 06:08 |
| kbmonkey | later! | 06:08 |
| superfly | I'm always praying for you Kilos | 06:08 |
| Kilos | ty my friend | 06:09 |
| oupateddie | Goood morning | 08:36 |
| Kilos | hello oupateddie | 08:36 |
| Kilos | you have a good dance | 08:36 |
| oupateddie | Howzit on this Sunday morning? | 08:36 |
| Kilos | good ty and there? | 08:36 |
| oupateddie | Dance... not really as there were very few people, but the music was good. | 08:37 |
| Kilos | ah | 08:37 |
| oupateddie | The West Coast is overcast but humid, looks like a 28C today | 08:37 |
| Kilos | we 34°c today | 08:38 |
| oupateddie | Let me see if anybody is up to speed with Firefox 26.... and the blocking of JavaScript(s) | 08:38 |
| oupateddie | Ouch that's hot | 08:38 |
| Kilos | oh you dont want java | 08:39 |
| Kilos | i had to install it here to see some sites | 08:39 |
| Kilos | but i use opera browser | 08:39 |
| oupateddie | How do I "accept" javascript on FF26. It is showing me that Javascript is not active on the FF26. | 08:39 |
| oupateddie | I have Chrone and Opera but Opera is not so Joomla friendly when updating CMS Websites | 08:40 |
| Kilos | doesnt it give a popup for accept | 08:40 |
| oupateddie | And the nice part is that FF has an Afrikaans spell checker which I could not find in Chrome | 08:40 |
| oupateddie | Nope Kilos | 08:40 |
| Kilos | ah | 08:40 |
| Kilos | do you want to see the java stuff? | 08:41 |
| oupateddie | Well my Facebook page is all screwed as I cannot enter anything in the fields. It doesn't accept anything. | 08:41 |
| oupateddie | Also my google page is not displayed correctly | 08:42 |
| Kilos | sec im looking | 08:42 |
| oupateddie | That is on the laptop, but on the desktop it is OK | 08:43 |
| Kilos | sudo aptitude install oracle-java7-installer | 08:44 |
| Kilos | most stuff works with just openjdk | 08:44 |
| oupateddie | I'm not sure if openjdk is installed let me chack | 08:45 |
| Kilos | and sun-java-something or other | 08:46 |
| oupateddie | It seems as if opnjdk is not installed on the machine | 08:46 |
| Kilos | have you got synaptic? | 08:46 |
| oupateddie | must still do that on 13.04 | 08:46 |
| oupateddie | its the laptop which played up yesterday | 08:47 |
| Kilos | whew | 08:47 |
| Kilos | so you now on 13.04 | 08:47 |
| oupateddie | yeh on the laptop | 08:47 |
| oupateddie | on the desktop I cleaned up a l;ot with a magic prog ubuntu-tweak | 08:48 |
| Kilos | you shoulda gone with 13.10 i think 13.04 isnt supported anymore | 08:48 |
| Kilos | thats why im staying with 12.04. 3 years support is better than 6 months | 08:49 |
| oupateddie | I did not have 13.10 on a stick. Perhaps I mus download it and install it. In fact I do get updates for 13.04 regularly | 08:49 |
| oupateddie | Is 13.10 at all friendly as 12.04.. | 08:49 |
| oupateddie | Also when is the next LTS coming | 08:49 |
| Kilos | you need to do some work to get extra workspaces and so on and it has lots of animated stuff i killed | 08:50 |
| Kilos | 14.04 | 08:50 |
| oupateddie | On my main machine it is still 12.04 | 08:50 |
| oupateddie | Rather stay as I am till 14.04 | 08:51 |
| Kilos | if you got space to play, try 13.10 kubuntu | 08:51 |
| Kilos | very fast | 08:51 |
| Kilos | installs in 12 mins | 08:51 |
| oupateddie | What about Mint? | 08:51 |
| Kilos | i prefer kde | 08:51 |
| oupateddie | Never used it before | 08:52 |
| Kilos | they have worked on speed which was the main draw back | 08:52 |
| oupateddie | Will download an load onto another old machine standing garthering dust | 08:52 |
| oupateddie | *gathering | 08:52 |
| Kilos | took some getting used to but very lekker once you know the basics | 08:52 |
| oupateddie | where do I download the kubuntu iso | 08:53 |
| Kilos | Maaz, get ubuntu | 08:53 |
| Maaz | Kilos: 301 Moved Permanently to http://www.ubuntu.com/, which gets a 200 OK "The world's most popular free OS | Ubuntu" | 08:53 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 08:53 |
| oupateddie | My problemis that I have clients running Ubuntu 12 and 13 and I have to give support so I need machines to run on them | 08:53 |
| Kilos | Maaz, google kubuntu 13.10 iso download | 08:53 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "Kubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander)" http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/13.10/release/ :: "Kubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) Daily Build" http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ :: "Download Kubuntu | Kubuntu" http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu :: "Kubuntu 13.10 | Kubuntu" http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-13.10 :: "Download Kubuntu | Kubuntu" | 08:53 |
| Maaz | http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download :: "Kubuntu | Friendly Computing" http://www.… | 08:53 |
| Kilos | oh you still on java thing too | 08:56 |
| oupateddie | Busy installing openjdk | 08:56 |
| oupateddie | Was not installed on the laptop | 08:56 |
| Kilos | here is the whole java thing | 08:57 |
| Kilos | https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/java | 08:57 |
| Kilos | that opens anything using java | 08:57 |
| oupateddie | Stupid question for anybody... can I boot up more than one ubuntu one one machine at the same time. I have a ps with two hdd's each with a different version. | 08:58 |
| oupateddie | on* - one | 08:58 |
| Kilos | yes i have 3 drives that boot here | 08:58 |
| oupateddie | OK how do I boot up the two disk as two "pc's " simultaneously | 08:59 |
| Kilos | 12.04 unity and 10.10 and kubuntu 12.04 on an external | 08:59 |
| Kilos | in one you type in sudo update-grub | 08:59 |
| Kilos | thats on your first bootable drive | 09:00 |
| oupateddie | OK I have update grub on the primary drive which brings up the grub menu | 09:00 |
| Kilos | then you will get the option which one to boot from | 09:00 |
| oupateddie | that's I get | 09:00 |
| Kilos | oh sorry man i misread your question | 09:01 |
| oupateddie | But is it possible to boot the primary as a machine and the secondary at the same time as a second machine | 09:01 |
| Kilos | i dont know | 09:01 |
| Kilos | dont think you can run 2 at once | 09:02 |
| oupateddie | This means that by "switching" between hdd's I can actually run two "workstations" simultaneously from one pc | 09:02 |
| Kilos | im lost with that | 09:03 |
| Kilos | if you find out how tell me too | 09:03 |
| oupateddie | well if you hear anything let me know. It might be possible if you run a virtual machine within the 1st instance similar to WINE for windows applic's | 09:04 |
| Kilos | oh you can run virtualbox | 09:04 |
| oupateddie | just thought of that now | 09:04 |
| Kilos | then install os of choice on there | 09:05 |
| oupateddie | that would mean your primaty machine would vbe your work machine and the virtual the other "play" disk | 09:05 |
| oupateddie | then I can run a 12.04, 13.04 and Kubuntu all at the same time no? | 09:05 |
| Kilos | virtualbox opens on your running drive | 09:06 |
| Kilos | dunno how to make it use a second drive | 09:06 |
| Kilos | ask that kinda question here tonight when the brains are here | 09:07 |
| oupateddie | worthwhile trying to get it done though | 09:07 |
| oupateddie | Do you know about crossover? | 09:07 |
| Kilos | nope | 09:07 |
| oupateddie | It is a codeweavers product to run windows under linux. | 09:08 |
| oupateddie | It basically allows you to run .exe.'s in linux without wine | 09:08 |
| Kilos | eish i try keep any ms stuff away from here, apart from xp on first 20g to use up the bad sectors on this drive | 09:13 |
| Kilos | hi aquarat | 09:47 |
| Kilos | wb | 09:47 |
| confluency | CrossOver *is* Wine. It's a proprietary fork. | 10:04 |
| Kilos | oh ty confluency | 10:04 |
| kbmonkey | hallo | 10:16 |
| Kilos | hi kbmonkey | 10:16 |
| kbmonkey | you lurking lekker Kilos | 10:17 |
| Kilos | haha | 10:18 |
| Kilos | ive already done my bit today | 10:18 |
| kbmonkey | ya, some people have the strangest problems when they come from a windows environment | 10:19 |
| kbmonkey | mostly because they just dont stop to read the instructions :] | 10:20 |
| kbmonkey | but Kilos you must never tell anyone to rm -rf, that is looking for trouble. he he | 10:21 |
| kbmonkey | especially with sudo | 10:21 |
| Kilos | oh sorry. ive use it for stubborn stuff | 10:22 |
| Kilos | i said rm not rm -rf didnt i | 10:22 |
| Kilos | you must read the part this morning about running virtualbox on another drive | 10:23 |
| Kilos | im lost there | 10:23 |
| kbmonkey | no you didnt say rf, only sudo rm :] | 10:24 |
| kbmonkey | why should I read about virtualbox? I use qemu! | 10:24 |
| Kilos | i didnt know it was unsafe | 10:24 |
| Kilos | tell oupa then | 10:25 |
| Kilos | see what he wants to do | 10:25 |
| Kilos | if you help him lekker we can maybe push for some snoek | 10:26 |
| Kilos | email smoked snoek | 10:26 |
| kbmonkey | haha | 10:26 |
| kbmonkey | if you rm the wrong thing you can destroy your system files :( | 10:26 |
| Kilos | ai! | 10:27 |
| kbmonkey | ja I see oupa wants to run a virtual machiine using the hard disk instead of a image file | 10:29 |
| kbmonkey | I have not done that before myself | 10:29 |
| kbmonkey | but the virtualbox wiki has a tutorial on that as I recall | 10:29 |
| Kilos | good | 10:30 |
| charl | good afternoon | 11:21 |
| charl | Maaz: coffee on | 11:21 |
| * Maaz puts the kettle on | 11:21 | |
| charl | oh my goodness, this is just plain brilliant http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/658/580/aca.jpg | 11:24 |
| Kilos | hi charl | 11:24 |
| charl | i love the south african way - problem - steal a solution | 11:25 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl! | 11:25 |
| charl | especially the belgian way - first start with a solution and end with a problem | 11:26 |
| charl | and the french way is also hilarious | 11:26 |
| charl | this is so true this one i am laughing tears of joy | 11:29 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 15:07 |
| * Maaz washes some mugs | 15:07 | |
| Kilos | you still here kbmonkey ? gonna rain | 15:08 |
| kbmonkey | yes, gonna rain here too. temp is dropping fast. | 15:08 |
| kbmonkey | Maaz, koffie asseblief | 15:09 |
| Maaz | Eish kbmonkey Die engelse het tot ons boeretroos oorgeneem. Vra asseblief in engels. | 15:09 |
| kbmonkey | Maaz, coffee please | 15:09 |
| Maaz | kbmonkey: Sure | 15:09 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos and kbmonkey! | 15:11 |
| kbmonkey | yey koffie | 15:11 |
| Kilos | Maaz, danke | 15:18 |
| Maaz | Bitteschön | 15:18 |
| Kilos | we got boom booms here but most likely that is just gonna kill the power and rain somewhere else | 15:19 |
| Kilos | grrr | 15:19 |
| kbmonkey | eish | 15:20 |
| Kilos | hmm... | 16:39 |
| kbmonkey | agreed | 16:45 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:45 |
| Kilos | gonna be a small meet on the 23rd methinks | 16:45 |
| Kilos | oh ya kbmonkey you inna dog box | 16:46 |
| Kilos | you missed your own first open meet | 16:46 |
| Kilos | you lucky the pro hasnt sent the mafia after you yet' | 16:47 |
| Kilos | see now he hides | 17:19 |
| oupateddie | Evening all | 17:22 |
| Kilos | hi oupateddie | 17:22 |
| Kilos | wb | 17:22 |
| oupateddie | Kilos what is the syntax of that fix broken command you sent yesterday? | 17:22 |
| Kilos | the monkey said there is info on the wiki on using virtualbox to another drive | 17:23 |
| Kilos | umm | 17:23 |
| oupateddie | I'll check that out | 17:23 |
| Kilos | sudo apt-get --fixbroken i think it was | 17:23 |
| oupateddie | I'll see as I had it differently and it did not work | 17:24 |
| Kilos | lemme try find it again | 17:24 |
| Kilos | but also in synaptic there is a fix broken button | 17:24 |
| Kilos | sudo dpkg --configure -a | 17:26 |
| Kilos | sudo apt-get install -f | 17:26 |
| Kilos | ill have to hunt again. not sure where i have it saved | 17:28 |
| oupateddie | Not a problem | 17:30 |
| oupateddie | I found it in aptitude manual | 17:30 |
| Kilos | what is it? | 17:31 |
| Kilos | you must make a file to save all these commands | 17:31 |
| Kilos | i do but on different drives and places | 17:32 |
| Kilos | sigh | 17:32 |
| Kilos | but the synaptic you got to edit and then fix broken | 17:33 |
| oupateddie | I am trying to save all the command yes | 17:35 |
| oupateddie | I'm trying to collect all these now into one file | 17:35 |
| Kilos | what did you break now | 17:36 |
| Kilos | oh also there are man pges | 17:37 |
| Kilos | pages | 17:37 |
| Kilos | you type in mad apt or whatever program you looking for info on | 17:38 |
| Kilos | i battle to understand man though | 17:38 |
| oupateddie | I check with aptitude and these are a number of obsolete progs which I want to remove | 17:40 |
| oupateddie | My cousin's machine has broken packages and I'm trying to help him how to fix these. | 17:41 |
| Kilos | aha | 17:49 |
| Kilos | what error messages do you see? | 17:50 |
| oupateddie | No, I have left him to fight on by himself... If he needs more help I'll have a look. | 17:50 |
| Kilos | you can let him come here too you know | 17:51 |
| oupateddie | I have downloaded Kubuntu, want to see how it looks on the laptop. | 17:51 |
| Kilos | cool | 17:51 |
| Kilos | if you need help there ill need to swap drives | 17:52 |
| Kilos | button bottom left is the launcher | 17:53 |
| oupateddie | first have to make a bootable stick for it | 17:53 |
| Kilos | you use unetbootin or startup disk creator | 17:53 |
| oupateddie | yep that I have done | 17:54 |
| oupateddie | Well now I'll probably do a clean install on the laptop with Kubuntu. At this stage I'm basically creating a new Kubuntu machine instead of Ubutnu. Let's see if I am going to become insane again | 17:58 |
| Kilos | lol go for it | 17:58 |
| oupateddie | I have been wanting to try kubuntu but always no time, now it's plunge time | 18:00 |
| Kilos | first time i tried it i was totally lost but now i love it | 18:00 |
| Kilos | totally different | 18:01 |
| oupateddie | does it also have libre office in it | 18:02 |
| Kilos | all packages are common to all ubuntu | 18:02 |
| oupateddie | obviously all the linux logic holds good it is just a kde based instead of gnome | 18:02 |
| Kilos | only the gui differs | 18:03 |
| Kilos | yip | 18:03 |
| oupateddie | ok I understand that it is better and faster but it is not user friendly | 18:03 |
| Kilos | you could actually even have tried it by just installing kubuntu-desktop | 18:03 |
| oupateddie | can still do that | 18:04 |
| Kilos | but 13.10 is much faster than earlier versions | 18:04 |
| oupateddie | then it runs kde instead of gnome? | 18:04 |
| Kilos | i install it in 12 mins on a dual core p4 with 1.5g ram | 18:04 |
| Kilos | yes | 18:04 |
| oupateddie | if I then want to revert back to gnome I just reinstall the gnome desktop? | 18:05 |
| Kilos | you can choose in the bootup screen where you type in your password | 18:05 |
| Kilos | you leave gnome there for starters | 18:06 |
| oupateddie | ok so if i install kubuntu then it will keep gnome and have kubuntu as an extra option. | 18:06 |
| Kilos | you tick a little thing top right where you type in password and choose | 18:07 |
| oupateddie | what if I now install 13.10 kubuntu and then later needs gnoem I can install the gnome desktop as well? | 18:07 |
| Kilos | yip | 18:07 |
| Kilos | ubuntu-desktop | 18:07 |
| oupateddie | will try that instead, then the laptop is at least on 13.10 | 18:08 |
| oupateddie | that basically is sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop as a command | 18:08 |
| Kilos | yes | 18:09 |
| Kilos | lots of peeps dont like kde but once you are used to it it is very lekker | 18:10 |
| Kilos | ask superfly for an opinion | 18:11 |
| oupateddie | Murphy time.... startup crashes so now I am installing kubuntu on 13.04 | 18:11 |
| Kilos | what crashes | 18:12 |
| Kilos | sjoe murphy move from me to you | 18:12 |
| Kilos | yay | 18:12 |
| oupateddie | dtartup disk creator | 18:13 |
| Kilos | use unetbootin | 18:13 |
| Kilos | much better | 18:13 |
| Kilos | makes a good boot stick | 18:13 |
| Kilos | oupateddie, what happened | 19:27 |
| oupateddie | still busy installing | 19:28 |
| oupateddie | the whole world and all are sitting on adls tonight | 19:28 |
| Kilos | oh on top of gnome? | 19:28 |
| oupateddie | adsl* | 19:28 |
| oupateddie | The entire world is in Yzerfontein busy with adsl and the exchange is just dying | 19:29 |
| oupateddie | yep on top of gnome | 19:29 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:29 |
| oupateddie | my 2Mb line is running at 30 kB's | 19:29 |
| Kilos | ouch | 19:29 |
| oupateddie | Yep that hurts | 19:37 |
| oupateddie | wonder why the kubuntu download site is so slow, other stuff are doing well though | 19:37 |
| Kilos | im gonna sleep now. ballies cant stay up late | 20:03 |
| Kilos | will be on kde in the morning if i dont forget | 20:03 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 20:04 |
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