[00:03] <Tex_Nick> OerHeks: that solved the issue !!! thanks sir :) ... i kad looked in system settings before ... guess i'm blind ... Thanks
[00:03] <OerHeks> Tex_Nick, have fun
[00:03] <Tex_Nick> ;)
[00:04] <Tex_Nick> zykotick9: hey thanks for your input as well ... i'll look into your sugestion for additional knowledge :)
[00:07] <zykotick9> Tex_Nick: glad you got the "real" answer anyways ;)
[00:10] <Tex_Nick> zykotick9: is there ever a real answer ? I appreciate ALL answers !!! THANKS to ALL you ubuntu GURU's for your support !!!!!!!!!!!
[00:10] <Tex_Nick> :)
[00:19] <popew90i> with ubuntu, is there an alertantive to connectify? Where you can use a PC as a router (hotspot) and all my devices can connect to it?
[00:22] <cGull> I'm trying to boot 13.10 from a usb stick, once the "Ubuntu USB boot menu" pops up, nothing there works, Install/Persistent/Safe-mode/File-system-check all do nothing. I want a persistant environment (ISO burnt with 4Gb for that purpose) but i can't get it to work, any tips?
[00:28] <Nidalee> Hi
[00:28] <onetinsoldier> howdy
[00:29] <Nidalee> Writing a backup.sh file, however I'd like to write a .log file of teh time and date the backup was created
[00:29] <Nidalee> How can I do this?
[00:29] <Stanley00> cGull: did you checksum the iso before write to usb?
[00:30] <Stanley00> Nidalee: you can use the date command, but I think you should ask this in #bash
[00:35] <Nidalee> that channel is kinda dead atm :/
[00:36] <Nidalee> Would cd to/backup/directory echo "THIS IS STUFF FOR THE FILE" >> backup.log work?
[00:37] <deezed> Nidalee: yes it works, but I dont think its what you want
[00:38] <Nidalee> deezed: Well, I also would need the time and date, but is there  something else I'm missing?
[00:39] <deezed> Nidalee: maybe it will replace your file or create another one. I`m not sure, but there is another command to add it as last line.
[00:39] <Nidalee> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=48813
[00:41] <deezed> sorry Nidalee its right!! http://www.freeos.com/guides/lsst/ch02sec15.html
[00:42] <deezed> Nidalee: so you can do also echo "something" >> /backup/directory/backup.log
[00:44] <koell> where  can i find unmounted devices in the file system? is there a location for?
[00:45] <Pessimist> koell, that's not how it works in gnu/linux. If you want to get a nice list of file systems and mount locations use: df -h
[00:46] <onetinsoldier> Pessimist: doesn't that show only mounted filesystems?
[00:46] <koell> Pessimist: so i can't access them before i mount`? i would like to use a console based file manager like ranger or mc
[00:47] <Pessimist> onetinsoldier, yep, probably. I think lsblk shows all file systems
[00:47] <onetinsoldier> Pessimist: roger that
[00:48] <onetinsoldier> koell: is this for disk devices only?
[00:49] <onetinsoldier> Pessimist: yea, that lsblk seems to work pretty nicely to show 'em
[00:49] <koell> onetinsoldier: hdd's, usb-sticks
[00:50] <onetinsoldier> koell: the command Pessimist gave seems pretty nice
[00:50] <koell> onetinsoldier: yeah many thanks :)
[00:50] <koell> onetinsoldier: im still happy to learn about linux (even on lubuntu)
[00:50] <Pessimist> koell, I don't think you can modify files inside a file system without mounting it, only partitions and the partition table. I was trying to find some kind of document about this but can't find anything
[00:51] <koell> Pessimist: i just tried to get rid of my sidebar in thunar and work more with the folders itself (instead of the bookmarks in the sidebar)
[00:53] <Pessimist> koell, you mean directories =) mount/umount are the commands for mounting and unmounting btw. I suggest you read the manual
[00:53] <koell> Pessimist: sure :D
[00:55] <koell> Pessimist: whats ur fm of choice?
[00:56] <Pessimist> koell, pcmanfm which comes with lxde. I have a crappy pc
[00:57] <koell> Pessimist: yeah me too. but its not because of a crap pc. just like the way of lubuntu. lxde looks so beautiful
[01:02] <sander> How do I remove a apt mirror comleately?
[01:03] <sander> and uninstall all programs from it.
[01:08] <cGull> Stanley00: Sorry for the delay in a reply, i've been trying things out. No i didn't do any checksums before writing the iso. I tried this with 12.04 yesterday and it was just the same, i went at it for hours and suddenly i got into a persistant environment but today it stopped working and i couldn't fix it, so now i'm trying 13.10 on a newly format
[01:08] <cGull> ted drive.
[01:11] <zykotick9> sander: "apt mirror"? do you mean a PPA?
[01:12] <sander> zykotick9, yes.
[01:12] <zykotick9> !ppa-purge | sander
[01:13] <sander> thanks
[01:14] <cGull> Stanley00: I just d/l winMd5Sum and as far as i can tell it checks out fine
[01:15] <cGull> so i'm still stuck without any of the Ubuntu boot menu options working, nothing happens when i try to select them (be it install/safe-mode/persistant/disk-check)
[01:18] <sander> zykotick9, im trying to uninstall dropbox.. and its ppa.. Dosnt work to run: sudo ppa-purge ppa:dropbox/ppa .. just getting: could not fid package list for PPA: dropbox ppa
[01:20] <zykotick9> sander: sorry?  don't know...  hopefully someone else knows the details.  best of luck.
[01:21] <perlite11> Hi, I have a new Dell Inspiron 15 i15RV-852BLk laptop running Linux Mint, and everything except the wireless works.  The wireless card shows up in lshw output as a "QCA9565 / AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter" from "Qualcomm Atheros". Anyone have any tips on getting it working?
[01:22] <sander> zykotick9, its just a normal ppa with a file named dropbox.list in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[01:22] <perlite11> ... Linux Mint 16 to be exact
[01:24] <koell> perlite11: i've read some raspberry pi tutorials about downloading and compiling your own drivers for wlan card. but never done before :D
[01:24] <deezed> perlite11: you know what? recently I installed linux mint 15 olivia on my mom's notebook, and got the same error. I just reinstalled it, (with the same .iso, btw) and it works now
[01:25] <onetinsoldier> gremlins
[01:25] <glitsj16> sander: look inside that file for the exact content, take out the 'deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/' part and everything from /ubuntu ... what's left in the middle is what you need to feed to the sudo ppa-purge ppa: command
[01:25] <deezed> perlite11: anyway, probably the better channel to ask is on linux-mint itself, but they'r not on freenode, so I cant send you the #channel
[01:26] <perlite11> deezed: I'm on mint 16, and I just installed it yesterday
[01:26] <sander> glitsj16, its deb http://linux.dropbox.com/ubuntu precice main
[01:26] <perlite11> do you know what kind of wireless card that showed up as, deezed?
[01:26] <agent_pro> hello people
[01:26] <sander> glitsj16, what will the command be then?
[01:27] <glitsj16> sander: that's it? well my logic has been busted :p
[01:27] <sander> glitsj16, thats it ;)
[01:27] <glitsj16> sander: you probably installed the PPA some time ago?
[01:27] <deezed> perlite11: I know. But maybe you've got any problems with the installation, I mean, its kind of normal. Since you had internet connection during the installation, that seems to me to be the lonely option I know. So my advice, if you recently installed it, is to reinstall.
[01:27] <sander> glitsj16, a few months ago
[01:28] <deezed> agent_pro: hello
[01:30] <glitsj16> sander: hmm, workaround perhaps .. if you don't want to keep dropbox, you might as well uninstall that first by running a regular sudo apt-get install <packagename> (for each of the packages you want to remove, after that just remove the dropbox file from /etc/apt/sources.d directory and run a sudo apt-get update
[01:30]  * Mises waves
[01:30] <Mises> Hello everyone
[01:30] <sander> glitsj16, Ok. Seems doable.
[01:30] <onetinsoldier> hi
[01:31] <SolarisBoy> might wanna do apt-get remove to remove uninstall packages =)
[01:31] <sander> The next thing I want to do.. is to verify if the ppa checksum..
[01:31] <sander> glitsj16, ^
[01:31] <onetinsoldier> Mises: are you a Rothbardian  by chance?
[01:31] <deezed> Mises: hello
[01:31] <Mises> lol, yep.
[01:31] <onetinsoldier> Mises: nice!
[01:32] <Mises> I was sitting in front of my computer for 20 minutes trying to think of a nick.
[01:32] <theaftermath> hey everyone. I just updated to 13.10 and i'm having a problem with grub-customizer
[01:32] <agent_pro> that's a serious issue
[01:32] <Mises> I'm brand new to Ubuntu, but I kind of love it.
[01:32] <onetinsoldier> i've been thinking about changing mine to StefanMolyneux
[01:32] <agent_pro> guys, the case is this...
[01:32] <agent_pro> i want to install ubuntu
[01:32] <guest965> so im in gparted. i set up my partitions but no swap
[01:33] <guest965> is this ok in ubujtu
[01:33] <deezed> agent_pro: lol
[01:33] <onetinsoldier> <-- loves linux/ubuntu
[01:33] <agent_pro> but im not sure if its its grub
[01:33] <agent_pro> or UEFI
[01:33] <glitsj16> sander: if the ppa checksum.. i seem to be missing part of your question, could you redo please?
[01:33] <deezed> guest965: nope
[01:33] <agent_pro> thing is...
[01:33] <SolarisBoy> guest965: the installer throws a warning if you don't have a swap partition but not an error
[01:33] <deezed> theaftermath: which kind of problem?
[01:33] <Mises> I think Unity is really sexy.  I was trying to get Ubuntu touch on my Motorola Xoom but I softbricked it, lol.
[01:33] <sander> glitsj16, I installed dropbox from this ppa: https://www.dropbox.com/help/246/en
[01:33] <theaftermath> deezed when I click save I get an error let me copy and paste it
[01:34] <Mises> Now I'm furious with life.
[01:34] <onetinsoldier> lol
[01:34] <glitsj16> sander: ok, having a look
[01:34] <deezed> theaftermath: ok,
[01:34] <theaftermath> deezed exception '9Exception'  with message 'Assertion `Model_ProxyScriptData::is_proxyscript(this->fileName)' failed. Function: deleteFile'  in /build/buildd/grub-customizer-4.0.1/src/Model/Proxy.cpp:341
[01:34] <Mises> onetinsoldier: mind if I shoot you a PM?
[01:35] <theaftermath> deezed then my options are to "quit" or "continue (risk data loss)
[01:35] <onetinsoldier> sure, go ahead
[01:35] <sander> glitsj16, I want to verify that I didnt install any malicous code from the dropbox ppa.. as chkrootkit detects the suckit rootkit. It says I should be warned if I installed software from a third party repisotory.
[01:35] <glitsj16> sander: that only talks about adding the ppa, not removing it as promised in the title ..
[01:36] <sander> glitsj16, yeah.. :-(
[01:36] <deezed> theaftermath: Sorry, I dont know what can it be, but maybe you could ask this on #grub
[01:36] <sander> glitsj16, but dropbox might turn up as a false positive I belive.
[01:36] <theaftermath> deezed alright I will thank you
[01:36] <deezed> ;)
[01:36] <glitsj16> sander: well let's hope so yes
[01:37] <glitsj16> sander: i'll look around on the net, don't know what else to tell you otoh
[01:38] <sander> glitsj16, here is where I read it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1362074
[01:40] <koell> ikonia: now found the bug with pcmanfm. http://www.pclinuxos.com/forum/index.php?topic=122029.0
[01:42] <Mises> So are there any addons for irc that you all use?
[01:42] <Mises> I'm using xchat presently.
[01:42] <glitsj16> sander: well, at least it came from the official dropbox PPA, one might assume that due to its popularity the internetz-tamtam would have sounded alarm, so i think you're safe there
[01:43] <koell> Mises: im using pidgin. plain pidgin. :)
[01:43] <SolarisBoy> koell: every try finch?
[01:44] <Mises> I don't remember the command to get the channels on the server, is it /list?
[01:44] <koell> SolarisBoy: finch?
[01:44] <SolarisBoy> koell: yeps =) cli version of pidgin
[01:44] <glitsj16> sander: are you familiar with y-ppa-manager? that's a nice gui to manage PPA's with, you might want to install that and take care of dropbox that way .. paradoxically ofcourse that also comes from a PPA heh --> http://www.webupd8.org/2010/11/y-ppa-manager-easily-search-add-remove.html
[01:45] <sander> glitsj16, hehe.. wasnt aware of it..
[01:45] <sander> glitsj16, I did this command when I installed it: sudo apt-key adv --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 5044912E
[01:46] <sander> glitsj16, how can I check that this key is the correct one? In that ppa manager maybe? Let me see.
[01:46] <koell> SolarisBoy: wow that looks so beautiful! didnt know that°°°!!!! many thanks
[01:46] <SolarisBoy> koell: yw , i had a feeling you'd like it =)
[01:47] <koell> SolarisBoy: why? do u know me? im austrian boy from the alps. i like super simple software. especially console based ncurses ones :D
[01:47] <SolarisBoy> nah just the fact they you like pidgin =) it's *just* like it - but cli
[01:48] <SolarisBoy> plugins works as well - which is really cool
[01:48] <glitsj16> sander: i see an option to import missing keys but not what you specifically asked for
[01:49] <sander> glitsj16, yeah. I want to list all installed keys.
[01:49] <sander> :)
[01:49] <koell> SolarisBoy: will try it now! do u have a blog or other recommended software like that? which os r u using? gimme moar!!! :D
[01:50] <SolarisBoy> nope =) just that one for now - im fairly useless
[01:50] <Nidalee> The pipe | I assuming is OR right?
[01:50] <Nidalee> for example http://cboard.cprogramming.com/linux-programming/90324-bash-remove-oldest-file.html
[01:51] <Nidalee> oopswrong channel :3
[01:52] <emotion>     
[01:52] <sander> glitsj16, dropbox dosnt show up in the ppa manager.
[01:54] <koell> SolarisBoy: so many helpful ppl here, awesome! =)
[01:54] <glitsj16> sander: well they sure knew how to make it difficult for a user to remove their PPA .. clueless .. but still looking around
[01:55] <sander> glitsj16, luckily rkhunter didnt detect any suckit rootkit:) :)
[01:55] <glitsj16> sander: i realise that you want to do this the safest way possible, still think that the workaround is viable, but let's look around some more
[01:55] <sander> So it looks to be a false positive.
[01:56] <glitsj16> sander: very good news indeed
[01:56] <xangua> glitsj16:  sander that's because dropbox uses a deb repository, not a Launchpad PPA
[01:56] <sander> xangua, ahh.. Just thought about that actually:)
[01:56] <otak> Mises: there is a channel bot you can query with regex: /msg alis help list
[01:57] <Mises> otak: thx
[01:57] <sander> xangua, so means I have to remove it the painfull way I guess ;-D
[01:58] <ThaCynic> nickserv
[01:59] <ghalsk> I am trying to use this file to start redis by typing /etc/init.d/redis-server start
[01:59] <ghalsk> http://etopian.com/tutorials/howto-automatically-start-stop-redis-ubuntu-debian/
[01:59] <glitsj16> xangua: thanks for clearing that up
[01:59] <ghalsk> but it wants a redis user for it i think?
[01:59] <ghalsk> on line 43
[01:59] <xangua> sander right...if by painful you mean remove a single deb package
[01:59] <ghalsk> could I just change that line to user:user to have it run for the user I want?
[02:00] <ekristen> I’m working on a ubuntu package, but for some reason its failed with “preinst called with unknown argument `configure’” but I have no preinst script defined
[02:02] <koell> SolarisBoy: how can i pay u? :D
[02:03] <sander> glitsj16, xangua: is there some channel for chkrootkit? Where I can get this confirmed?
[02:03] <sander> that its actually a false positive.
[02:04] <intrader> glitsj16, I have rebooted without a problem - searching for overheating problem . Suspect gpu or nvidia driver
[02:04] <glitsj16> sander: don't know if they have one on freenode, nut alis might know
[02:04] <glitsj16> !alis | sander
[02:04] <glitsj16> intrader: hi again
[02:05] <glitsj16> intrader: guess what, there's a cli way to get nvidia GPU temp .. seems to come installed with the driver: nvidia-smi
[02:05] <sander> glitsj16, didnt return any channel for rkhunter or chkrootkit
[02:06] <glitsj16> sander: might want to ask in #freenode
[02:07] <glitsj16> intrader: well at least you can keep an eye on it now and maybe do some logging that can be helpfull in case you make a thread on a forum
[02:07] <Lisa94> Hello guys, i was wondering if anyone could help me with a screen command. I cant get it to work and it doest not really make sense to me. http://hastebin.com/basudixeso.bash is my current code! Thanks!
[02:08] <sander> glitsj16, thanks.. seems like I found a channel.. #security
[02:12] <intrader> glitsj16, what is the command?
[02:12] <glitsj16> intrader: just that, nvidia-smi
[02:12] <frank_> hi
[02:12] <Mises> Is anyone here in the channel #raspberrypi ?
[02:13] <frank_> Mises: no, but I own one
[02:13] <frank_> what's the problem?
[02:13] <koell> Mises: im into raspberry pi yeah
[02:13] <koell> Mises: will add that channel to my list too
[02:14] <glitsj16> intrader: man nvidia-smi has all the goods
[02:15] <Xirre_> When using unzip -o TestFile.zip *.filetype, I've been wondering, how do you specify to only unzip a file that has no path?
[02:17] <rcw2> is there an open-source solution to google apps
[02:17] <rcw2> or alternative
[02:17] <intrader> glitsj16, no manual entry for that - I'll look it up
[02:17] <Xirre_> Sorry, I worded that wrong.
[02:18] <Xirre_> How do you specify to only unzip a file that has no filetype?
[02:19] <glitsj16> intrader: i have nvidia-331 running, don't know if exists in every nvidia package
[02:24] <sander> glitsj16, it seems chkrootkit isnt up2date.. a guy on fedora with no 3. party ppas had the same problem.
[02:24] <Beldar> rcw2, google apps as in?
[02:25] <Beldar> rcw2, What OS is this?
[02:25] <glitsj16> sander: hmm that's the trouble with security heh, you never know what/who to trust
[02:26] <koell> Beldar: there seems to be no overall alternative to google apps with same user experience afaik
[02:27] <sander> glitsj16, exactly.
[02:27] <Beldar> koell, They might be running the 14.04 image or ubuntu touch just trying y=to get info and direct them.
[02:29] <sander> glitsj16, as long as you verify checksums from diffrent pcs with diffrent internet connection and os.. then it should be safe :)
[02:29] <koell> Beldar: native install on ubuntu touch? or do u mean just a shortcut for web apps? never heard before... so when goes ubuntu touch live and really usable?
[02:29] <glitsj16> sander: at least we have that, true
[02:29] <Beldar> koell, I was not talking to you in the first place mind your own business.
[02:31] <rcw2> Beldar, a productivity suite
[02:31] <Beldar> rcw2, answer the actual questions in detail.
[02:32] <Beldar> rcw2, This google play apps?
[02:32] <sander> glitsj16, yeaP :-)
[02:32] <sander> glitsj16, thanks alot for the help :)
[02:33] <FrankMau5> .
[02:34] <Beldar> rcw2,google apps will not run in other than android.
[02:34] <Mises> koell: why won't the channel let me join?
[02:34] <glitsj16> sander: very welcome
[02:34] <Mises> Any ideas?
[02:35] <ghalsk> Mises: did you identify with the nickserv?
[02:35] <Mises> Nooooo.
[02:35] <Mises> Do I have to do that through web based stuff?
[02:35] <Mises> Or can I register via irc?
[02:35] <rcw2> Beldar, its browser based tho.  it can run in ios
[02:36] <Beldar> rcw2, YOu are not answering questions nor giving pertinent details.
[02:36] <rcw2> Beldar, i'd like more specific queiries
[02:36] <rcw2> queries*
[02:36] <ghalsk> Mises: just follow these directions
[02:36] <ghalsk> http://www.wikihow.com/Register-a-User-Name-on-Freenode
[02:36] <Beldar> rcw2, Really well good luck with that.
[02:36] <Mises> Gotcha, thanks ghalsk.
[02:37] <bitbyte_> Hey guys
[02:38] <ghalsk> Mises: also once you have registered you can often setup an auto identify on most irc chat programs
[02:38] <bitbyte_> I'm looking at setting up a SMTP server just so my server can send updates to myself
[02:38] <ghalsk> so you do not have identify by typing each time you connect
[02:38] <bitbyte_> Cause at the moment I'm looking at : http://kylegoslin.wordpress.com/2012/06/05/116/  but where it has example@example.com can i just put anything there in the config ?
[02:39] <Mises> Damn.
[02:39] <Mises> It's already registered. :(
[02:40] <glitsj16> intrader: double-checked that all nvidia packages in official repos from 304 onward have the nvidia-smi, location differs between versions, but it's there .. i forgot what version you are running ?
[02:40] <Beldar> people forget they come here to ASK for help
[02:42] <ghalsk> is anyone familiar with starting a redis server but having it be non-blocking?
[02:42] <ghalsk> everythin I try (redis-server &, or this init.d file http://etopian.com/tutorials/howto-automatically-start-stop-redis-ubuntu-debian/) is still blocking
[02:46] <intrader> glitsj16, nvidia-smi not installed and I don't get advice how to install
[02:47] <lyh> d
[02:48] <glitsj16> intrader: you can't install it, it is part of the nvidia driver package, at least from 304 onwards as far as i know .. what version are you running on the overheating machine?
[02:50] <LvMises> Is there, perhaps, a way I can auto /msg nickserv identify AccountName Your-Password everytime I launch my client?
[02:50] <LvMises> I remember with mIRC chat in windows I could.
[02:50] <Beldar> LvMises, look in the setup of you irc client.
[02:50] <glitsj16> intrader: or you could look for it by running 'sudo dpkg -S nvidia-smi' .. that's how i found it
[02:51] <LvMises> The setup?
[02:51] <intrader> glitsj16, none of the drivers is activated. offers 304 and 319 (recommended) - they offer updates for both
[02:51] <LvMises> Oooohhhh, nvm.  Thanks man.
[02:51] <Beldar> LvMises, settings, preferences...etc
[02:51] <glitsj16> intrader: i'd go for the recommended
[02:52] <intrader> glitsj16, 319 or (version 319 updates)
[02:53] <glitsj16> intrader: the updates
[02:54] <glitsj16> intrader: what kernel do you run? uname -r
[02:56] <intrader> glitsj16, 3.8.0-34-generic
[02:57] <glitsj16> intrader: that combo should be fine, just wanted to rule out you're running the 3.13-rc (which seems to have trouble with nvidia, you would need a patch and all that) test away i'd say
[02:58] <LvMises> Anyone in here mess with bitcoin?
[02:58] <LvMises> In any capacity?
[02:58] <Mobius> I tried once, but I couldn't seem to get the gist of it.
[02:58] <intrader> glitsj16, I had to revert to 12.04 after installing 13.10 - huge number of problems
[02:59] <koell> im not into mining, way to expensive :D
[02:59] <Mobius> @intrader agreed, it's pretty sloppy from my end.
[02:59] <intrader> Mobius, do you a at leas a petaflop machine?
[02:59] <glitsj16> intrader: seems a lot of people have issues on 13.10, and you get the added benefit of a few extra years of support with the 12.04 LTS
[03:00] <intrader> glitsj16, I don't know how they release such c...
[03:01] <Mobius> @intrader ummmm, I don't think so. I'm a very noobish user, so there's a lot that I'm still learning/don't know.
[03:01] <glitsj16> intrader: pressure to keep up with self-created timeframe goals, the future's always speeding up it seems .. but i'm old heh
[03:02] <glitsj16> intrader: by now a lot can be fixed on 13.10 though, but it's the hassle
[03:03] <intrader> glitsj16, same here, way old - saw multics being born
[03:03] <glitsj16> :)
[03:05] <xorwitch> hi i screwd up, i ran firefox and everything as root, before i created a user, and now, i have to change manualy every permission, is there any way that can be simplified? or do i need to reinstall
[03:06] <intrader> glitsj16, it is taking forever to 'Downloading and installing driver...'
[03:06] <Beldar> xorwitch, everything? can you be more specific, how did you run as root?
[03:07] <glitsj16> intrader: depends on the mirror i suppose, not much you can do right now but wait .. i wouldn't try to cancel it during an update, that was my first mistake when i installed my first ubuntu .. i lost a few pounds that night heh
[03:08] <intrader> glitsj16, time pressures by inexperienced product managers
[03:08] <Beldar> xorwitch, Is this a canonical release of ubuntu?
[03:08] <xorwitch> Beldar , everything in the sense, like firefox , cmus, it ran fine with root, and now that i have made a user and checked the file permission, even the home directory has permission for root
[03:09] <xorwitch> it was a minimal install
[03:09] <glitsj16> intrader: true, that spells trouble 3 times
[03:09] <Beldar> xorwitch, If it were me I would install a correct setup, but thats me.
[03:09] <cge> I'm not sure the best place to ask this, but I keep getting change notification spam from the community help wiki on a very old account, and can't seem to find how to unsubscribe from watching those pages... they don't show up in my subscribed wiki pages list, there's no information about how to unsubscribe from them in the emails.
[03:10] <intrader> glitsj16, curious, I have had to restart due to the heat problem - the machine simply shuts down
[03:10] <glitsj16> intrader: i bet that's a safety precaution built into the linux kernel
[03:10] <xorwitch> Beldar, thank you, i was expecting some other solution, but i guess what you said is the only choice i have.
[03:11] <Beldar> xorwitch, Basically ubuntu can become rather messed up running in root so whether you think its secure is up for grabs if even fixed.
[03:11] <cge> xorwitch, that should be fixable, if you're willing to deal with a bit of a hackish fix.
[03:11] <intrader> glitsj16, once it gets cpus to 100C or temp2 to 100C, it dies
[03:11] <xorwitch> Beldar , thats true
[03:11] <xorwitch> cge what would you sugest
[03:12] <cge> xorwitch: where are your permission problems? If you were running everything as root, and you created a user, that user should have a different home folder, and you shouldn't have any permission problems beyond your data not being there.
[03:12] <glitsj16> intrader: well i hope you can get it sorted out soon, wouldn't be the first machine that dies due to prolonged overheating
[03:13] <Neo_> hello
[03:13] <Neo_> hello
[03:13] <Trinity> hello
[03:14] <intrader> glitsj16, it must be a rugged puppy this lenovo t61P
[03:14] <LvMises> ^lol
[03:14] <Trinity> :-)
[03:14] <cge> xorwitch: If you move, as root or with sudo, all your stuff from that directory to your new user's home directory, and then run "chown -R USERNAME /home/USERNAME" as root or under sudo, that should fix most of your permission problems.
[03:16] <glitsj16> intrader: still downloading?
[03:16] <cge> xorwitch: There may be some lingering issues that may pop up, however, mainly relating to usernames. chown -R is your friend for these sorts of problems; you may also want to change the group for the files, but I'm not sure what ubuntu uses these days for groups.
[03:17] <xorwitch> cge thats one way you sugest, but there are other applications too, for example firefox, now i have to track all those files that need to be changed permission, and thats just one application, i used GIMP, blender, cmus, banshee, i guess what Beldar said would be better, since i wanted this install to be clean and secure, just couldnt resist the urge to try everything :p
[03:19] <jmgk> in general what do you prefer for Ubuntu
[03:19] <jmgk> desktop or laptop ?
[03:19] <intrader> glitsj16, the desired driver is activated but not currently in use - do I need to reboot?
[03:20] <cge> xorwitch: What do you mean? That will change the permissions for everything that *should* have permissions changed. Unless you're doing something weird, all the data your user should have permissions for should be in their home directory, so moving everything and chowning them should work. The user application data is in there too; it's not a per-application thing. Your user shouldn't have rw access to the non-user application files like thos
[03:20] <cge> /usr.
[03:21] <glitsj16> intrader: yes, although i'm not very used to the additional drivers tool, but you will see the nvidia splash screen if all goes well that way, reassuring for a few times, goodluck
[03:21] <Pencil_> how do I use deb to look at source code?
[03:21] <intrader> glitsj16, rebooting
[03:23] <onetinsoldier> Pencil_: dpkg -c  ...or... dpkg -x
[03:23] <xorwitch> cge i guess i will gve it a try then
[03:24] <xorwitch> cge thank you
[03:24] <onetinsoldier> Pencil_: depending on if you just want to list the contents, or extract them
[03:24] <Pencil_> ty
[03:24] <onetinsoldier> Pencil_: you must first have a source code package, not a binary package
[03:25] <grahamsavage> hey
[03:25] <onetinsoldier> Pencil_: you are probably wanting to extract the contents of the source code package, so you can view the actual contents of the file i'm assuming
[03:25] <grahamsavage> is there anyway i can workout if my computer has been hacked?
[03:26] <Pencil_> Yes.   I need to read the source.
[03:26] <Pencil_> Binary wont work for me.
[03:26] <onetinsoldier> Pencil_: man dpkg, or perhaps even better,  man dpkg-deb
[03:27] <daftykins> grahamsavage: what's got you suspicious?
[03:27] <grahamsavage> daftykins: my amazon account got hacked
[03:27] <grahamsavage> and ran up a 12k $ bill
[03:28] <onetinsoldier> Pencil_: perhaps you need to start with --> apt-get -d source <name_of_package>
[03:28] <grahamsavage> it was 3 days after i had logged into ec2 for the first time in 2 years
[03:28] <grahamsavage> so it's down too.. somehow the password got pilfered on the internet
[03:28] <grahamsavage> or there's a virus on my comuter
[03:28] <daftykins> grahamsavage: are you running up to date software and using a good password?
[03:28] <onetinsoldier> Pencil_: then look at the man page for dpkg-deb --> man dpkg-deb
[03:28] <grahamsavage> daftykins: yeah password is ok
[03:28] <intrader> glitsj16, as I don't know what the driver will do for me, it looks like there is more heat generated.
[03:29] <grahamsavage> daftykins: software is upto date
[03:29] <daftykins> so we're talking 10+ characters at least?
[03:29] <glitsj16> intrader: doesn't sound promising ..
[03:29] <grahamsavage> which the ec2 password or my computer password?
[03:30] <grahamsavage> my computer password is 12ish, the ec2 one is 30 randomized
[03:30] <daftykins> grahamsavage: any and all
[03:31] <grahamsavage> i.e. the ec2 one is not brute-forcable
[03:31] <glitsj16> intrader: perhaps it's time to take the rugged puppy to an it 'vet' .. have you asked around in a hardware channel?
[03:31] <Ben64> grahamsavage: the only way to be sure your server is not compromised is to format and reinstall
[03:31] <glitsj16> intrader: do you have that nvidia-smi command available now?
[03:32] <grahamsavage> Ben64: this is my desktop i'm worried about
[03:32] <Ben64> oh, well the same thing applies
[03:32] <grahamsavage> i've already deleted every instance of ec2
[03:32] <intrader> glitsj16, I wish I could issue `command` and include its output. nvidia-smi installed and running - what will it do for me?
[03:32] <grahamsavage> i've got no idea how they got the password :/
[03:32] <Ben64> format, reinstall, have better security practices
[03:33] <somsip> grahamsavage: did you store the .pem on any of the instances?
[03:33] <glitsj16> intrader: it's just a command that reports on a few params like your GPU temp, not like it can try to fix anything i'm afraid
[03:33] <daftykins> grahamsavage: i can't say i know much about ec2 but if it's a web service or has a web component, surely a cookie grab could've been performed by just being on other websites at the same time or some such
[03:33] <grahamsavage> somsip: yeah possibly
[03:33] <grahamsavage> but none of them were running
[03:33] <grahamsavage> every ec2 was shut down
[03:34] <grahamsavage> until the hacker ones started up
[03:34] <ehnde> how do i log out?
[03:34] <daftykins> grahamsavage: what you could do is image up your OS right now, then format - then you can pick through the image at your leisure to try and identify any issues
[03:34] <somsip> grahamsavage: ouch. Well, looks like you need to reset AWS Dashboard login, .pems, and your account details are on their with payment method so you could be in a hole right now
[03:34] <grahamsavage> daftykins: hmm, yeah my ISP often injects code into webpages
[03:34] <somsip> *there
[03:34] <glitsj16> intrader: but now you've got the nvidia driver that indicator-sensors from earlier should work now and you can set an alarm with that so you can safely shut it down when needed
[03:34] <ehnde> there's no button or option to log off my desktop
[03:35] <grahamsavage> somsip: i've got like 14 bank accounts, i just emptied that one
[03:35] <grahamsavage> no money is coming out :)
[03:35] <grahamsavage> somsip: i've reset everything, deleted every user, removed every key
[03:35] <somsip> grahamsavage: ok - sounds like the right approach
[03:36] <grahamsavage> added multi-factor authentication, sent amazon an angry email
[03:36] <grahamsavage> but now i'm stuck with how did they get the password
[03:36] <grahamsavage> employee maybe :/
[03:37] <ehnde> how is there no log out button?
[03:37] <ehnde> this is almost as confusing as windows 8
[03:37] <Ben64> ehnde: there is one...
[03:37] <onetinsoldier> ehnde: have you tried the button in the far upper right hand corner?
[03:37] <ehnde> onetinsoldier: i see a calendar, volume, mail icon, network icon
[03:38] <ehnde> there is no log out button that i see
[03:38] <Beldar> ehnde, release and desktop?
[03:38] <ehnde> ubuntu 13.10 gnome
[03:38] <onetinsoldier> there should be a another button that gives you the choice to log out, shut down, restart
[03:38] <intrader> glitsj16, gpu temperature 77C - while cpus are running at 60C
[03:39] <Ben64> ehnde: post screenshot
[03:39] <Beldar> ehnde, your user name is not in the top right corner, this the gnome shell?
[03:39] <ehnde> Beldar: it's the ubuntized version of gnome
[03:39] <Beldar> ehnde, do the screen shot.
[03:40] <glitsj16> intrader: are you running anything taxing the GPU right now? i was just thinking, perhaps you can install another DE like xfce or lxde (one that doesn't use heavy graphical effects like unity) and see if that changes anything for the positive .. just fishing here to be honest
[03:41] <ehnde> http://imgur.com/ItAjEh2
[03:42] <lostfile1> why are peps always on ingur these days?
[03:43] <lostfile1> imgur i mean
[03:43] <Ben64> ehnde: thats unity
[03:43] <duoi> lostfile1, easy to use, flexible, hotlinking, etc
[03:43] <ehnde> ahh, so this is not gnome
[03:43] <lostfile1> oh
[03:43] <ehnde> i highly prefer gnome over this
[03:43] <Ben64> well you can install whatever you'd like
[03:44] <Ben64> let me fire up my unity VM and i'll find the logout button
[03:45] <ehnde> Ben64: i think i found it...ctrl alt delete gives the option to log out
[03:45] <Ben64> thats not the normal way
[03:45] <Beldar> ehnde, I would not make it a habit running a root terminal.
[03:45] <denny-> http://askubuntu.com/questions/364445/disable-the-new-keyboard-applet-in-ubuntu-13-10 ... I don't have the  “Show Current Input Source in Menu Bar” option on that dialog.  Help?  :)
[03:45] <Ben64> if you click on the desktop, there should be an icon in the top right, kind of like a cog or gear, and that gives you the option to shut down, log out, restart, etc
[03:46] <ehnde> Ben64: you are right, i can see it now
[03:46] <ehnde> thanks!
[03:47] <intrader> glitsj16, with new driver psendor displays gpu temperature
[03:47] <Ben64> ehnde: no problem, and you can install gnome3 if you want, or kd3, or lxde, or anything else you want :)
[03:47] <glitsj16> intrader: okay, whatever tool you can use to keep a close watch
[03:48] <Beldar> ehnde, I suspect it is gnome 2 you want there is a fallback desktop that resembles this loosely.
[03:49] <denny-> yeah, Gnome Classic or whatever it's called, is your current best route to UI sanity.
[03:50] <intrader> glitsj16, I am watching a video at 1/4 of screen in flash - telesur program of music in venezuela - you know Dudamel?
[03:50] <glitsj16> intrader: nope, that doesn't ring any bells
[03:51] <intrader> glitsj16, the director of the LA Philarmonic who came up the ropes in Venezuela
[03:51] <Beldar> denny-, Hmm, an inability to adapt, hows that working for you. ;)
[03:51] <Akiva-Mobile> hey I have my headphones plugged into my laptop, unfortunately, it isnt supporting stereo. Is there a way which I can make my headphone ears play mono?
[03:52] <Akiva-Mobile> Its  a thinkpad x230 btw
[03:52] <glitsj16> intrader: i'm from belgium/europe .. we only fry potatoes for cultural extravaganzas lol
[03:53] <boom> greetings all  are there any youtube videos that show how to install  Compiz on a 12.04 LTS install from start to  actually using it
[03:53] <Beldar> boom, compiz is installed in unity.
[03:54] <Beldar> unity is a plugin in it
[03:54] <denny-> Beldar: I'm not having this conversation again.  I can easily list dozens of things I do daily that take more keypresses and/or mouse actions with Unity or Gnome 3 than they do with Gnome 2.  It is slower for the kind of work I do, and/or for the way my mind works.  I'm happy to be able to stick with a way that works for me.
[03:56] <Beldar> denny-, And that's your reality, not everyone else's, when you use phrases like "yeah, Gnome Classic or whatever it's called, is (your) current best route to UI sanity." It is a subjective projection.
[03:58] <boom> beldar thank you
[03:58] <Beldar> it's an opinion and off topic
[03:58] <Beldar> no problem boolean
[03:58] <Beldar> boom, ^^
[03:59] <Kamuela> I'm using 13.10 with a Toshiba laptop with Intel HD 4600 and I'm having very odd intermittent display issues.
[03:59] <denny-> Beldar: It was a continuation of the advice you'd just given someone, how is that 'off topic'?
[03:59] <Beldar> Kamuela, give the channel details if you can.
[04:00] <aslaen> ok, I have no idea what is going on. I installed MySQL and it is only listening on 127.0.0.1. I have added bind-address = * to /etc/my.cnf and restarted MySQL
[04:00] <aslaen> still only listening on 127.0.0.1
[04:00] <Kamuela> Beldar, I'm not sure what else to say about it, except the fact that by default there's obviously a driver or configuration error because I have done no tweaking myself
[04:00] <denny-> Beldar: sarcastic remarks about my 'inability to adapt' are however against network policy.
[04:01] <Kamuela> I either have screen flickering or what looks like extremely low DPI along with only black/white/faded green colors
[04:01] <denny-> http://askubuntu.com/questions/364445/disable-the-new-keyboard-applet-in-ubuntu-13-10 ... I don't have the  “Show Current Input Source in Menu Bar” option on that dialog.  Help?  :)
[04:01] <Ben64> Kamuela: can you take a picture?
[04:03] <Kamuela> I'm not 100% if the screenshot is showing how bad my video is, but I think it is: http://postimg.org/image/vunxg9bhv/
[04:04] <Ben64> Kamuela: looks perfect
[04:05] <Kamuela> I can't tell if Ben64 is being sarcastic or not because it is really hard for me to look at the screenshot and see if it shows how bad it is. Is it possible that my display is just not being detected correctly?
[04:06] <denny-> aslaen, try a read of http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11905895/mysql-remote-connection-not-as-usual - it suggests that mysql might not always shut down cleanly and so it does'nt restart properly with your new settings.
[04:06] <Kamuela> Is there a command that would let me see what graphics driver I'm using? And then one maybe that would let me see what video settings I'm using for the display?
[04:06] <Ben64> oh, no sarcasm here Kamuela. It has no problems on that screenshot. maybe try taking an actual picture?
[04:06] <aslaen> denny-: ya I read that. I actually did a kill -9 on all mysql processes and checked time, it definitely restarted
[04:06] <denny-> Kamuela, your screenshot looks fine to me also
[04:07] <denny-> sounds like you have a loose cable or something
[04:07] <Kamuela> If screenshots are fine, is the problem likely to be a display detection thing?
[04:07] <Ben64> Kamuela: "lshw -C VIDEO | grep driver" and "xrandr" for your previous query
[04:07] <Kamuela> denny-, yeah, a loose cable that windows tightens just in time for boot to have a perfecct display lol
[04:07] <denny-> ah, missed that bit  :)
[04:07] <jmgk> hi there denny-
[04:07] <denny-> jmgk, heyla  :)
[04:08] <jmgk> how goes it :D
[04:08] <Ben64> Kamuela: and to be fair, you never mentioned that it works fine in windows
[04:08] <denny-> jmgk, slowly but surely
[04:08] <jmgk> haha
[04:08] <Kamuela> I get configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
[04:08] <denny-> today I are mostly wanting to kill the language selection widget in the taskbar
[04:08] <denny-> I seem to be lacking a tickybox though
[04:09] <Kamuela> Ben64, true, although I didn't mean the comment in any serious way. Just trying to get it fixed. That's why i came in here knowing it was either a display or graphics issue and not a hardware one
[04:10] <Ben64> Kamuela: which is why we need full details of a problem in order to diagnose it
[04:10] <Kamuela> Is the i915 driver alright to be using with hd 4600? and I tried to change that string and grep for xrandr and nothing was returned, unless I interpreted what I was supposed to replace in the command incorrectly
[04:11] <Rallias> Uhm... so I'm having problems doing a release upgrade... how do I reduce my total disk usage?
[04:12] <Kamuela> Ohhh, was I just meant to type xrandr? Because I got some info from that
[04:12] <Beldar> Rallias, from what lts to whatlts?
[04:12] <Rallias> Beldar, 13.04 to 13.10
[04:12] <Kamuela>   1600x900       60.0*+
[04:12]  * denny- types xrandr, then wonders where his laptop is hiding 3 HDMI ports.
[04:12] <Kamuela>  is what the first line shows, and I'm wondering if the asterisk means something?
[04:13] <Beldar> Rallias, That is not a long term
[04:13] <denny-> whoa, 4am
[04:13] <Ben64> Kamuela: thats the current mode
[04:13] <denny-> perhaps it is bedtime.  Night all  :)
[04:13] <Rallias> Beldar, I fail to see why me not running an LTS is an issue.
[04:14] <Beldar> Rallias, It is not, but starting with correct syntax is helpful is all, it makes things confusing if you do not do so.
[04:14] <glitsj16> denny-: i remember reading on the missing tickybox, don't ask me why but if you have an entry in system settings like 'text entry' it could be hiding there .. goodnight
[04:15] <Beldar> Rallias, Sorry I read that as a lts my mistake.
[04:17] <qwebirc80184> fuck linux
[04:17] <qwebirc80184> can you help me configure iptables
[04:18] <qwebirc80184> ??
[04:18] <Beldar> !language | qwebirc80184
[04:19] <jmgk> !language qwebirc80184
[04:19] <jmgk> hm
[04:19] <Kamuela> So is this something that gets "fixed" or is this more along the lines of something I have to wait for support to catch up with? It doesn't seem like the x-swat PPA caused any change whatsoever. Also, the drivers that Intel releases don't have support for 13.10 yet.
[04:19] <jmgk> qwebirc80184:  just ask
[04:19] <Beldar> !iptables
[04:20] <AdamBInfinity> has anybody been able to set up their gnome-terminal to use solarized with vim? I get so far and then it seems as if my bold colors are displaying grey
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> AdamBInfinity: did you try vim-gtk?
[04:20] <AdamBInfinity> no... i'm not sure i've heard of that
[04:21] <Kamuela> I can "fix" the major issue by opening up the display settings and changing resolutions back and forth. However it doesn't change what seems to be a weird flickering around the outline of the desktop. I'm cool with living with this, I'm just afraid that Ubuntu might be hurting my display by not outputting to it correctly.
[04:21] <AdamBInfinity> I don't want to use a graphical vim though
[04:21] <intrader> glitsj16, gpu at 91C, nearby cpus 81C
[04:21] <Ben64> Kamuela: its likely a configuration problem
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> AdamBInfinity: i use solarized theme aswell, and vim-gtk to syntax highlight
[04:22] <Kamuela> Ben64, this is what I suspected. And I wonder if what's happening is the refresh rate or one of those type of settings is off for the display
[04:23] <glitsj16> intrader: that's not going in the safe direction .. ask the channel again i'd say, i'm going horizontal for the night .. nice meeting you and keep well
[04:24] <AdamBInfinity> lotuspsycheje: isn't vim-gtk a graphical version of Vim? I only want to use a command line version
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> AdamBInfinity: yes indeed
[04:25] <dmitry> hh
[04:25] <Ben64> Kamuela: see if this helps http://jimmod.com/blog/2010/06/solving-fixing-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-screen-flickerdistortion/
[04:25] <zykotick9> AdamBInfinity: vim-gtk is a GUI vim yes.  mind repeating your question?
[04:25] <dmitry> can you help me configure iptables?
[04:25] <Ben64> Kamuela: actually, just do it temporarily on the grub menu when you boot, so if it doesn't work a restart will get rid of that option
[04:26] <AdamBInfinity> zykotick9: i'm having some issues getting vim and/or my terminal to use the solarized theme. everything seems fine except my bold fonts are grey which is a problem working with *.html files
[04:27] <zykotick9> AdamBInfinity: ahhh, sorry, not into theming on console.  sorry for wasting your time, best of luck.
[04:27] <Kamuela> i'll try
[04:28] <dmitry> # Generated by iptables-save v1.4.7 on Sat Dec  7 11:59:41 2013 *nat :PREROUTING ACCEPT [0:0] :POSTROUTING ACCEPT [0:0] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [0:0] -A POSTROUTING -o venet0 -j SNAT --to-source 192.243.127.197  COMMIT # Completed on Sat Dec  7 11:59:41 2013 # Generated by iptables-save v1.4.7 on Sat Dec  7 11:59:41 2013 *mangle :PREROUTING ACCEPT [9909:14278075] :INPUT ACCEPT [9909:14278075] :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [5448:302857
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> im getting this error after starting pan: ERROR:pan-tree.cc:80:GtkTreeIter PanTreeStore::get_iter(const PanTreeStore::Row*): assertion failed: (row)
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> was working fine before until i added a new server
[04:29] <dmitry> can it allow incomming udp connections to tun0 interface?
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> !iptables | dmitry
[04:29] <intrader> glitsj16, nice chatting with you and thanks for your help - sleep weil
[04:30] <dmitry> thanx uyx
[04:30] <Kamuela> Ben64, no cigar
[04:30] <kriskropd> I need to copy a bunch of files from a 500GB NTFS disk to a 1TB NTFS disk and preserve permissions and such - oddly, when using 'sudo rsync -xrlptgoEv --progress --delete /mnt/disk1/ /mnt/disk2/ >> /tmp/rsync.log' I notice the files are moving fine, but all the directories moved from permissions as 777 to 700 - did I miss an rsync argument or something?
[04:30] <mohit> hello...i'm new to ubuntu...i'm using ubuntu 13.10...i'm trying to install oracle 11g database...i succeeded doing that by following the tutorial in the link http://meandmyubuntulinux.blogspot.in/2012/05/installing-oracle-11g-r2-express.html
[04:31] <mohit> it works fine till restart...
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> AdamBInfinity: on solarized i get many txt in grey on terminal aswell, wasnt so 'solarized' as i tought it would be
[04:31] <mohit> but after restart...it says sqlplus cmd not found
[04:31] <mohit> please help
[04:32] <jmgk> mohit:  wait around
[04:32] <jmgk> :)
[04:32] <Tahuri> hi mohit,
[04:32] <AdamBInfinity> lotuspsychje: so we may be in the same boat haha
[04:33] <kriskropd> lotuspsychje: I had to manually adjust the solarized palette when I used it (using it with .Xdefaults in urxvt) - I noticed display brightness and contrast can really mess up up the readability of Solarized
[04:33] <mohit> @jgmk ok:)
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> kriskropd: but have you been able to see many colors on solarized?
[04:33] <mohit> @tahuri hello!
[04:34] <Beldar> !tab | mohit
[04:34] <kriskropd> lotuspsychje: Solarized is perfect as-is if you have a perfectly calibrated display - which I do not as I preference for low brightness and redshift adjustments
[04:35] <mohit> ubottu: thanks!
[04:35] <kriskropd> lotuspsychje: yes I have multiple colors in solarized - you said the color coding in vim wasn't working for html? that might be a different problem
[04:35] <Guest1330> hey all, quick question.  ew 13.10 install, and several web app icons show as gray question marks on the launcher.
[04:35] <jmgk> hello there mohit
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> kriskropd: that was AdamBInfinity 's issue
[04:36] <mohit> hey!
[04:36] <jmgk> mohit:  did you get my message?
[04:36] <jmgk> test your IRC client
[04:36] <jmgk> :)
[04:36] <AdamBInfinity> Guest1330: are these applications you downloaded or pre-installed?
[04:36] <kriskropd> lotuspsychje: AdamBInfinity I'm using solarized in .Xdefault, I'm not very knowledgable of vim's color coding or color scheming as I've never played with it before
[04:37] <Tahuri> mohit: I'm form Argentina and my English is very bad, but I help you in I can
[04:37] <AdamBInfinity> kriskropd: well thank you anyway... i'll play around with my .Xdefault as well. was hoping to avoid that
[04:37] <Guest1330> AdamBInfinity: these are the web apps (for instance, go to Google Plus, popup asks if I'd like to install the web app), so installed after the 13.10 install
[04:38] <mohit> AdamBInfinity: ok! thnx!
[04:38] <jmgk> mohit:  ?
[04:38] <AdamBInfinity> mohit: ?
[04:38] <mohit> Tahuri: Thnks
[04:38] <mohit> AdamBInfinity: sorry
[04:39] <pbk829> is it normal for a wifi adapter to not be able to connect/maintain connection to a wifi network unless the signal strength is at least ~70% (or -60dBm)?
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> pbk829: wifi adapter chipset? ubuntu version?
[04:40] <pbk829> ah just found an open source driver for it. maybe that will help it. will report back
[04:40] <pbk829> RTL8187
[04:41] <pbk829> 13.04
[04:41] <meddy> when I boot up ubuntu 13.10 during  boot it says error writing or reading  HDO i think and it continutes the boot process
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> pbk829: wifi security wpa, wep?
[04:41] <pbk829> open
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> pbk829: should work fine with the drivers that installed by default
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> pbk829: or did you install other drivers from additional drivers?
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> !realtek | pbk829
[04:43] <pbk829> i didn't install any drivers. just what came with ubuntu
[04:43] <onetinsoldier> meddy: i'd look at the output of --> dmesg | less
[04:43] <onetinsoldier> meddy: see if you see the message in there
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> pbk829: you might wanna check realteks latest ubuntu driver on their site aswell
[04:44] <onetinsoldier> meddy: if not, try --> less /ver/log/kern.log
[04:44] <onetinsoldier> meddy: if not, try --> less /var/log/kern.log
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> AdamBInfinity: you know colortail?
[04:44] <onetinsoldier> meddy: you did say it contines to boot. so you boot into linux then?
[04:45] <pbk829> ya, maybe. but it has no issues when the signal strength is >70%. i was just wondering if that's normal.
[04:45] <meddy> yea but it interupts it everytime
[04:45] <meddy> and that command don't work
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> pbk829: well i have seen signal issues on ubuntu before, on some WEP security
[04:45] <onetinsoldier> meddy: hmmm. you mean... dmesg | less  ...doesn't work?
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> pbk829: but that was long ago
[04:46] <meddy> says command not found
[04:46] <pbk829> thanks i'll deal with it
[04:47] <onetinsoldier> meddy: well, perhaps i shouldn't be too surprised since you're having a hard river problem
[04:47] <meddy> it just showed up today what could happen
[04:47] <haxdash> aloha!
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> Jeramiah: welcome, what can we do for you?
[04:48] <onetinsoldier> meddy: but the package  that installs the 'dmesg' command is 'util-linux'
[04:48] <onetinsoldier> meddy: do you have that package installed?
[04:48] <hax-> This may be a long shot, and I know I am in the wrong channel, but not much support on the other chan
[04:48] <onetinsoldier> meddy: that package, util-linux, is a required package
[04:48] <hax-> anyone have exp with packetfence by chance?
[04:49] <meddy> I don't know my way around the terminal well what the command for it to sintall it
[04:49] <hax-> First time usr of packetfence hehe
[04:49] <onetinsoldier> meddy: it should be installed as a requirement for ubuntu linux to be installed
[04:49] <hax-> Just trying to get it all configured now, its all installed and everything, just got some weird db issues
[04:50] <hax-> I think I might have some how maybe changed something or something, because before it was working fine under /configurator/ and now it gives me db denied
[04:50] <hax-> localhost/configurator* rather
[04:50] <onetinsoldier> meddy: and i made a typo a bit ago...  hard river, i meant... a hard drive problem
[04:51] <hax-> I hope they don't have a river in their pc :x
[04:51] <hax-> hehe
[04:51] <onetinsoldier> hax-: lol, no doubt
[04:51] <hax-> not unless its an enclosed super cooled one =D
[04:51] <meddy> so i'm suck with that until i swap for a new one ?
[04:51] <hax-> whats the issue with his hdd?
[04:51] <onetinsoldier> hax-: software doesn't do to well in hard river's ;-)
[04:52] <hax-> lolz not to well indeed
[04:52] <hax-> My brother when he was younger found out that floppy drives dont do good with slices of pizza either
[04:52] <hax-> =x
[04:52] <meddy> i see no notiicle problem just that error durring boot
[04:52] <onetinsoldier> lolz
[04:52] <onetinsoldier> feed me!
[04:53] <hax-> He was trying to share lol
[04:53] <onetinsoldier> haha!
[04:53] <hax-> Comander Keen needs to eat too man
[04:53] <hax-> bonus points for those who played / remember comander keen
[04:53] <hax-> lol
[04:54] <hax-> or Superplex
[04:54] <hax-> superplex was the fkin bombbbb
[04:54] <hax-> oh shit
[04:54] <onetinsoldier> hax-: i think he's having a hard drive issue... "when I boot up ubuntu 13.10 during  boot it says error writing or reading  HDO i think and it continutes the boot process"
[04:54] <hax-> I have KDE installed on my box!
[04:54] <hax-> I can install sokoban!
[04:55] <Leighton> I've been using a radeon hd 6xxx, however it's gone now so I'm using onboard graphics. When I boot into ubuntu I get a message about how it can't find the card (before login or any of that) and it sends me to "low graphics mode". Any ideas on how I may be able to get to the desktop? Ctrl+Alt+7 is sitting at "Checking Battery State"
[04:55] <hax-> hmm
[04:55] <Leighton> F7*
[04:55] <jmgk> mohit: here?
[04:56] <hax-> does it say like disk boot error hit ctrl+alt+del to restart or w/e
[04:56] <hax-> or just restart by itself?
[04:56] <hax-> meddy
[04:56] <meddy> it doesn't restart
[04:56] <Leighton> no nothing like that, it's a single alert box with a black screen
[04:56] <hax-> or its just right protected?
[04:56] <meddy> just tells me if i want to continue but it does anyways
[04:56] <onetinsoldier> i wouldn't be surprised if that HD0 = HDD
[04:56] <mohit> jmgk: yes
[04:56] <hax-> like the xbox ones before
[04:56] <hax-> ah
[04:57] <jmgk> reply
[04:57] <hax-> yeah, maybe
[04:57] <jmgk> try out IRC
[04:57] <jmgk> :)
[04:57] <hax-> you didn't swap the jumper on the back of the hdd by chance did ya?
[04:57] <hax-> the little plastic 2 prong piece?
[04:58] <hax-> some hdds have it
[04:58] <meddy> i never even took the HDD out the bolt to it is melted in so it stays tehre for life
[04:58] <hax-> it tells it whether to be a master/slave
[04:58] <hax-> lol melted in?
[04:58] <hax-> oh boy
[04:58] <lotuspsychje> hax-: use this channel for ubuntu support only please
[04:58] <hax-> sure lotuspsychje
[04:59] <hax-> you referring to my packetfence question?
[04:59] <meddy> but that was years ago so i hope it can be fixed....
[04:59] <hax-> id take it to get looked at, if stuff is melted in, thats not a good sign =x
[04:59] <hax-> hehe
[05:00] <onetinsoldier> i think he means that it might be okay to goof around for a bit, but just a bit
[05:01] <onetinsoldier> the channel is supposed to be fairly serious, for support issues
[05:01] <meddy> no i mean the bolt that unlocked the hardrive is melted in it can't be that
[05:01] <meddy> so no idea on my HDD issue?
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> join ##hardware for hardware issues
[05:02] <hax-> So serious
[05:02] <hax-> mr joker face
[05:02] <hax-> :P
[05:02] <ZestyFT> I was just in hardware, they're talking nano seconds and ohms resisitence
[05:02] <hax-> fun lol
[05:02] <hax-> I think I setup my tightvnc server on ubuntu 12.x in record time today
[05:03] <hax-> and actually got it working haha
[05:03] <JesperHead> Aloha amigos
[05:03] <onetinsoldier> hi
[05:03] <hax-> hi there JesperHead
[05:03] <hax-> I mean hola, como estas!
[05:03] <hax-> lol
[05:03] <JesperHead> so
[05:03] <Tahuri> hax- de donde sos?
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> !es
[05:04] <hax-> I have an ubuntu related question....
[05:04] <hax-> in ubuntu, on kde, in Sokoban, how do you beat level 10!
[05:04] <hax-> lol jk
[05:04] <JesperHead> if you were in the chat last night, you probably enjoyed a schadenfreude when I overwrote my windows partition. I was thankfully able to download a new win7 ISO BUT having problems copying/installing to/from USB
[05:04] <hax-> Jesper
[05:04] <JesperHead> heya
[05:05] <hax-> you're better off with windows gone
[05:05] <hax-> :)
[05:05] <JesperHead> agreed
[05:05] <JesperHead> but need it for work software
[05:05] <hax-> just sayin lol
[05:05] <hax-> nahhh
[05:05] <JesperHead> wine doesnt support it very well
[05:05] <hax-> lol, was jut fixing to say
[05:05] <hax-> wine it
[05:05] <hax-> or vmware =D
[05:05] <onetinsoldier> what happens when you try to copy/install to/from usb?
[05:05] <hax-> It moves files from the usb
[05:06] <hax-> to the destination
[05:06] <onetinsoldier> JesperHead: have you tried using 'unetbootin'?
[05:06] <JesperHead> onetinsoldier: well i first usb UNetbootin to burn to USB. It successfully boots to the new Grub
[05:06] <Tahuri> they excuse me for the typed word in Spanish
[05:06] <onetinsoldier> ahh, okay
[05:06] <JesperHead> but doesnt go beyond that
[05:06] <Beldar> JesperHead, notice the winusb here. http://askubuntu.com/questions/116885/can-i-use-ubuntu-to-write-a-windows-7-iso-to-usb-in-ubuntu
[05:06] <hax-> I used a good burner the other day for usb
[05:06] <hax-> one sec, let me find what the name of it was
[05:06] <JesperHead> Beldar: You might be the hero of the night
[05:07] <hax-> Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.5.1.exe | http://www.pendrivelinux.com/downloads/Universal-USB-Installer/Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.5.1.exe
[05:07] <hax-> for windows of course
[05:07] <hax-> but it worked great actually
[05:07] <JesperHead> yeah normally use that in win
[05:07] <JesperHead> ill try winusb first
[05:07] <hax-> better than unetbootin imo
[05:08] <Beldar> JesperHead, That is one of at least 3 ways I know.
[05:08] <hax-> Nicholas Cage is such a bad ass in this movie with the car
[05:08] <hax-> hes like got these people from hell chasing him or somethin
[05:08] <JesperHead> Beldar: Do you know why win ISOs are so painful?
[05:09] <hax-> I think its called drive angry or somtething
[05:09] <hax-> something*
[05:09] <Beldar> JesperHead, They are not in windows, not designed for load in linux to a usb.
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> hax-: plz stop discussing offtopic stuff here
[05:11] <hax-> Take a deep breath, it will all be ok :-)
[05:11] <hax-> one movie ref isn't going to destroy humanity
[05:11] <hax-> :p
[05:11] <JesperHead> lotuspsychje: I am doing this from ubuntu, so the support is actually quite on topic. Ill try to keep quiet for your enthralling conversation though.
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> JesperHead: i dont see how nicolas cage involves your issue..
[05:12] <hax-> lol that was me
[05:12] <hax-> =x
[05:12] <JesperHead> Cough
[05:13] <hax-> windows should be in #windows though :P
[05:14] <hax-> but if you need help with like a win/ubuntu setup, then you're in the right place :)
[05:14] <JesperHead> well i need support while in ubuntu. I doubt the average windows user would know about WinUSB
[05:14] <hax-> hey I am an average windows user
[05:14] <hax-> don't profile me!
[05:14] <hax-> lol
[05:14] <JesperHead> I'd call you enlightened but I don't want to turn this into a circlejerk
[05:15] <hax-> =p
[05:16] <hax-> So, you are in Ubuntu, and you want to run WinUSB?
[05:16] <hax-> what the goal here
[05:16] <hax-> :)
[05:16] <JesperHead> no i think im good
[05:16] <hax-> cool cool
[05:18] <xmetal> hmm
[05:19] <hax-> I hate when my dr says that
[05:19] <hax-> "hmm"
[05:19] <hax-> "ohhh"
[05:19] <hax-> "uh oh...."
[05:19] <hax-> lol
[05:19] <xmetal> not as bad as "i have never seen THAT before" though
[05:19] <hax-> lmao
[05:19] <hax-> or HOLY SHIT WHAT IS THAT?!
[05:20] <hax-> thats what I came to ask you doc!
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> !ops | hax-
[05:21] <hax-> lol stop being a baby dude
[05:21] <hax-> we're all just chillin having fun, don't be a spoil sport
[05:21] <elky> you've been asked to stop
[05:21] <elky> you should stop.
[05:21] <Flannel> hax-: This channel is only for Ubuntu technical support, please help stay on topic, thanks.
[05:23] <hax-> I am helping when I can :-)
[05:24] <Flannel> hax-: And we appreciate it, but when you're not helping, you shouldn't be offtopic, thanks.
[05:24] <hax-> oo need to be 100% serious though, then you just make people hate you ;)
[05:24] <hax-> no*
[05:24] <hax-> Got to keep it a little bit interesting
[05:24] <Flannel> hax-: Unfortunately, with 1600 people here, we find that we do need to be 100% serious.
[05:25] <Pici> #ubuntu-offtopic exists, is is often non-serious.
[05:25] <hax-> So you're saying that 1600 people are incapable of being serious when they have to be?
[05:25] <hax-> harsh
[05:26] <Flannel> hax-: I'm saying that 1600 people rarely all have to be serious at the same time, which means the other 1599 people need you to redirect your non-seriousness elsewhere.
[05:26] <pvl1> i cant seem to get a script to run at start up
[05:26] <hax-> What script pvl1?
[05:27] <hax-> and what version you on?
[05:27] <hax-> you can just use crontab
[05:27] <snucka> I am having trouble installing AMD catalyst drivers in Xubuntu 12.04, can someone help me??
[05:28] <hax-> or mod the rc.local
[05:28] <onetinsoldier> snucka: i can try to
[05:28] <JesperHead> snucka: got an ATI card myself, though I'm in regular ubuntu. What seems to be the problem
[05:28] <snucka> I installed them and it seemed like it all worked
[05:28] <snucka> but it wont recognize
[05:28] <snucka> aticonfig in the commmand line
[05:29] <JesperHead> snucka: as in "no command aticonfig found"?
[05:29] <snucka> yes
[05:29] <Cl34r> hola alguien sp?
[05:29] <snucka> command not recognized
[05:29] <JesperHead> Cl34r: Ubuntu-es por favor
[05:29] <hax-> snucka, do lspci |grep AMD
[05:29] <Cl34r> ok thx
[05:30] <motherbrain> I am wondering currently is there any debuggers other then gdb for linux out there or is it pretty much gdb with a ton of different GUI front ends for it. Just wondering
[05:30] <hax-> what card are you running
[05:30] <hax-> pvl1: you get it?
[05:31] <hax-> motherbrain: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/80563/is-there-an-alternative-to-gdb-for-linux-systems
[05:31] <hax-> :-)
[05:31] <hax-> Lots listed there, hope it helps
[05:32] <JesperHead> snucka: any luck with lspci | grep AMD?
[05:32] <hax-> or you can just lspci
[05:32] <snucka> I am having another issue now... ill let you know
[05:32] <JesperHead> k
[05:32] <snucka> im rebooting
[05:32] <hax-> I know grep is picky with CaSe SeNs
[05:32] <JesperHead> hax-: it worked for me so I think it's legit
[05:33] <JesperHead> caps on AMD though
[05:33] <hax-> yeah
[05:33] <hax-> amd and AMD will give diff results
[05:33] <hax-> hehe
[05:33] <JesperHead> oh you did, nvm
[05:33] <snucka> Now I can't boot
[05:33] <snucka> wtf
[05:33] <hax-> snucka: details plz
[05:33] <hax-> snucka: is it a kp?
[05:34] <snucka> kp?
[05:34] <hax-> are you're keyboard lights blinking? or an error msg
[05:34] <hax-> kp == kernel panic
[05:34] <snucka> just black screen
[05:34] <snucka> I just did a bunch of updates
[05:34] <hax-> press ctrl+alt+f1
[05:34] <snucka> and then I restarted
[05:34] <hax-> will it let you switch to terminal 1
[05:34] <snucka> im a n00b so bear with me
[05:34] <motherbrain> well other then intel's and all the other stuff in your link is front ends to gdb which leads me to believe it is 95% gdb for the debugger of linux
[05:35] <motherbrain> correct me if I am wrong
[05:35] <snucka> ctrl alt f1 does nothing
[05:35] <hax-> try f2 then
[05:35] <snucka> nothing
[05:35] <hax-> it should let you switch to another console
[05:35] <snucka> omg hold on
[05:35] <snucka> I was using the wrong keyboard LOL
[05:35]  * JesperHead grips his own butt
[05:35] <hax-> ohh
[05:35] <hax-> rofl
[05:35] <snucka> oklol
[05:35] <snucka> I got a promp
[05:36] <snucka> prompt
[05:36] <snucka> im logged in as root
[05:36] <snucka> or superuser
[05:36] <JesperHead> snucka: now was that the first reboot since installing the new drivers?
[05:36] <snucka> no
[05:37] <hax-> so, now that you are back into your system, check the logs and see if they threw any juicy info for ya
[05:37] <hax-> and check the configs as well
[05:37] <hax-> for like X11 or Xorg
[05:38] <snucka> how do I do that
[05:38] <hax-> Your name makes me hungry Burrito
[05:38] <hax-> :(
[05:38] <Burrito> I get that a lot
[05:38] <snucka> I know nothing about linux so bear with me plz
[05:38] <onetinsoldier> snucka: what happens if you do the following command? --> whereis aticonfig
[05:38] <hax-> lol
[05:38] <CPRdummy> how do i make xchat keep my channels open when i close and reopen it
[05:38] <motherbrain> never mind my question is pointless and stupid
[05:38] <hax-> its ok snucka, thats why we're here
[05:38] <CPRdummy> quit and reopen*
[05:38] <hax-> motherbrain: not really
[05:38] <robertji> hi there! Does anyone know the fastest/easiest way to map caps lock to ctrl in 13.10?
[05:38] <snucka> i keep getting these >
[05:39] <snucka> wont go away
[05:39] <JesperHead> ctrl c
[05:39] <JesperHead> or ctrl z
[05:39] <P01> is there someone that could help me?
[05:39] <snucka> ok aticonfig has location
[05:39] <JesperHead> P01: maybe. elaborate :)
[05:39] <CPRdummy> P01: this whole channel
[05:39] <onetinsoldier> !ask P01
[05:39] <hax-> hmm, not really sure on that one CPRdummy, I was trying to google something on it for you, no luck though, maybe try in #XChat?
[05:39] <onetinsoldier> oops
[05:40] <onetinsoldier> !ask | P01
[05:40] <hax-> P01: whats up dude
[05:40] <motherbrain> to many languages to  to many debuggers ... :) forget my OCD nature
[05:40] <CPRdummy> hax-: thanks anyways
[05:40] <hax-> lol motherbrain
[05:40] <JesperHead> snucka whats the location if I may ask?
[05:40] <hax-> no prob CPRdummy, good luck man
[05:41] <snucka> .  /user/bin/aticonfig & /usr/bin/X11/aticonfig
[05:41] <P01> i updated ubuntu 12.04 to 12.10 and now the GUI wont load.
[05:41] <pvl1> hax-: sorry had a phone call. its just a script to run something in screen in the bg, ive tried so many ways. ive set it to run on reboot for cron, still wont work
[05:42] <JesperHead> snucka: what happens when you type ./user/bin/aticonfig & /usr/bin/X11/aticonfig
[05:42] <JesperHead> (yes the '.' is intentional)
[05:42] <JesperHead> oh wait
[05:43] <hax-> P01: did you have gdm or kdm or anything installed before the upgrade?
[05:43] <JesperHead> snucka: ok two locations. Try typing them both out. But put a '.' in front. This will *run* the script
[05:43] <P01> no
[05:43] <hax-> I actually just ugpraded as well and had issues with KDE, I kind of cheated by installing Kubuntu
[05:43] <hax-> apt-get install kubuntu
[05:43] <Beldar> P01, What is the graphic?
[05:43] <hax-> then reboot
[05:43] <snucka> says no such file or directory
[05:43] <P01> its ati
[05:44] <P01> ik i need drivers
[05:44] <hax-> well, what ati card?
[05:44] <P01> but i cant launch command line
[05:44] <JesperHead> snucka: for both eh?
[05:44] <P01> a6
[05:44] <hax-> gimmie a model, so I can find you drivers =D
[05:44] <hax-> k
[05:44] <snucka> yes
[05:44] <hax-> its just a6?
[05:44] <hax-> not a6 anything else/
[05:44] <P01> yes
[05:45] <Beldar> P01, do you get to the login?
[05:45] <P01> no
[05:45] <snucka> if I cd to the directory and try to run aticonfig it says "this program must be run as root when no X server is active"
[05:45] <P01> i only see the ubuntu logo
[05:45] <P01> and i get this error: kvm disabled by bios
[05:45] <Beldar> !nomodeset | P01 try this boot
[05:45] <JesperHead> snucka: AHA
[05:46] <snucka> how do I login as root
[05:46] <P01> ill see what i can do
[05:46] <onetinsoldier> snucka: sudo -i
[05:47] <snucka> bingo
[05:48] <Beldar> P01, seems relevant. http://askubuntu.com/questions/263179/get-rid-of-kvm-disabled-by-bios
[05:48] <onetinsoldier> snucka: you should probably run the command as...  aticonfig --initial
[05:48] <hax-> sorry had a hot customer with a dog
[05:48] <hax-> so i had to offer her dog a treat so I could talk to her
[05:48] <hax-> i'm back though
[05:50] <snucka> yeah I did that
[05:50] <snucka> it worked
[05:50] <snucka> I think I am getting somewhere
[05:50] <onetinsoldier> cool. now reboot
[05:50] <hax-> nice :D
[05:50] <JesperHead> snucka: woot
[05:51] <P01> im new to ubuntu so how do I edit the kernel?
[05:51] <hax-> I had a geforce card which I had to get the drivers for, talk about annoying manual wget url input
[05:51] <hax-> freakin mile long lol
[05:51] <onetinsoldier> <-- wonders if he might be like another guy i helped to day that didn't have OpenGL installed though
[05:51] <onetinsoldier> that was the next thing to 'fix'
[05:52] <snucka> ok i rebooted and Im halted on a black screen again
[05:52] <snucka> ctrl alt f1 doesnt work
[05:53] <hax-> try ctrl+alt+f2?
[05:53] <snucka> nope
[05:53] <P01> Beldar, how do i edit kernel?
[05:53] <hax-> should allow you to goto another term window
[05:53] <hax-> Kernel editing is tricky, and could result in many things going wrong
[05:54] <P01> but do I access it using another computer?
[05:54] <Beldar> P01, tap shift to get grub boot at powering on an e to edit it.
[05:55] <P01> thanks
[05:56] <snucka> onetinsoldier I rebooted and now stuck on black screen
[05:56] <snucka> system unresponsive
[05:56] <hax-> hm
[05:56] <onetinsoldier> snucka: that really sucks. i'm not sure what to make of that
[05:57] <hax-> hey snucka
[05:57] <hax-> take a read on this, I did some digging for you
[05:57] <hax-> http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?60883-AMD-A6-3400M-not-working-on-Linux-kernel-3-0
[05:57] <hax-> seems the A series actually has issues with ubuntu
[05:58] <Aikar_> I just got a 3 card system in nvidia sli, using gnome, and when i enable xinerama, X wont load, freezes on loading nv-control - any ideas?
[05:58] <hax-> This forum might help though
[05:58] <hax-> Have a read and see if it will guide you along ;)
[05:58] <snucka> ok thanks
[05:58] <hax-> Aikar_: does it give you any error messages by chance?
[05:58] <hax-> no probs snucka :)
[05:58] <onetinsoldier> snucka: good luck
[05:58] <Aikar_> hax-: no, thats last line i can see
[05:59] <hax-> Hm
[05:59] <Aikar_> hangs until i ctrl c
[05:59] <hax-> paste it to the pastebin in topic plz
[05:59] <hax-> if multiple lines.
[05:59] <P01> Beldar, what should i do now? i have the command line but what do i do?
[06:00] <hax-> brb one sec, gonna smoke a bowl right quick
[06:00] <al_la> Hey all, quick question.  Fresh 13.10 install, went to Google Plus and upon pop-up, installed web apps.  Once installed, the launcher shows icon as gray question mark.  Searching dash shows blank file icon.  I purged unity-webapps-googleplus, reinstalled and still same problem.  This has happened for all web apps, but no other programs.  Another symptom: no web apps have integrated into messaging notification.  Any ideas?
[06:01] <Beldar> al_la, link to app.
[06:02] <al_la> Beldar, I'm sry, not quite sure what you mean
[06:03] <Beldar> al_la, link to what you installed.
[06:04] <dino82> Quick question -- I am running Windows PuTTy (actually KiTTy) and I cannot right-click paste into my Ubuntu 13.04 machine.  It works on all of my centos boxes.  I checked the settings in putty, they are identical to my centos machines
[06:05] <ezra> Hello
[06:05] <Guest23270> Can anyone help me with a usb 3.0 issue with ubuntu. I have 8 ports and only 2 of them work
[06:05] <Guest23270> so i am running without a keyboard since 1 is used for wireless and one is used for my keyboard.
[06:06] <hax-> Guest20051: if you do lsusb do the devices show up?
[06:06] <Guest23270> let me check
[06:06] <Guest23270> yes
[06:06] <Guest23270> they all show up
[06:07] <Guest23270> oh
[06:07] <Guest23270> werent talking to me
[06:07] <Guest23270> sorry
[06:07] <hax-> I was :P
[06:08] <Guest23270> oh
[06:08] <hax-> do you have the usb ports on your pc?
[06:08] <hax-> or are they from a hub
[06:08] <Guest23270> Then yes they are all listed
[06:08] <Guest23270> Ports on the back of my gigabyte mother board
[06:08] <Guest23270> I have 6 3.0 and 2 2.0
[06:08] <Guest23270> the 2.0 are the only ones that work as far as I can tell
[06:09] <Guest23270> its hard to work linux without a mouse but I am doing quite well lol
[06:09] <hax-> check this out
[06:09] <hax-> did some digging here..
[06:09] <Guest23270> I appreciate that :)
[06:09] <hax-> Re: GIGABYTE GA-970A-DS3 motherboard not working with 64 bit kernel
[06:09] <hax-> Interesting note on this motherboard. The chipset for northbridge is not supported under a linux 64 bit kernel and neither is the Southbridge according to AMD's own website.
[06:09] <Guest23270> Wow...
[06:10] <hax-> 1. North Bridge: AMD 970  |  2. South Bridge: AMD SB950
[06:10] <Guest23270> let me see what motherboard type I have
[06:10] <Guest23270> ahh shit
[06:10] <Guest23270> yeah thats my model..
[06:10] <hax-> damn
[06:10] <hax-> bummer bro
[06:10] <hax-> give me a minute
[06:10] <hax-> ill see if I can find anything else on it for a fix
[06:11] <moopers> is there someone online who can assist me?
[06:11] <Guest23270> thank you so much I really appreciat ethe help
[06:11] <moopers> what is the best open source program to keep files on a computer synchronized with an external hd?
[06:12] <hax-> ahh yeah
[06:12] <hax-> Guest20051: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2111223&page=4
[06:12] <hax-> read it and weap baby
[06:12] <JesperHead> weep*
[06:12] <hax-> theres your fix :)
[06:12] <JesperHead> nub
[06:12] <hax-> yeah yeah lol
[06:12] <FloodBot1> hax-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:12] <JesperHead> :D
[06:12] <Guest23270> THANK YOU
[06:12] <hax-> haters
[06:12] <hax-> they all hate me here
[06:12] <Beldar> !sync
[06:12] <hax-> lol no prob Guest20051
[06:13] <JesperHead> hey Beldar, so I used winUSB, rebooted, went to my bios, and could not locate my USB stick under boot options :-|
[06:13] <hax-> damn this bacon cheeseburger from chillis is bangin at 1am lol
[06:14] <Beldar> mooperd, best is not a valid word here, however commonly suggested is rsync https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync
[06:15] <hax-> And just so I don't go off topic, I need to know how to wipe the grease from a bacon cheeseburger off of my ubuntu machine
[06:15] <moopers> im curious why not?
[06:15] <Beldar> !best
[06:15] <hax-> just sayin lol
[06:15] <Beldar> best is a subjective
[06:15] <moopers> i see   ok
[06:16] <hax-> Ok, time to see if I can't get packetfence running on my network now ^.^
[06:16] <Guest23270> hax-
[06:16] <hax-> sup
[06:16] <Guest23270> did you see what page the fix was on?
[06:16] <JesperHead> Beldar: Any ideas? Appreciate the help
[06:16] <hax-> yes, the last one
[06:16] <hax-> page 4
[06:16] <Guest23270> thank you sir
[06:16] <hax-> no probs :)
[06:16] <Guest23270> <3 my hero thank you so much
[06:16] <hax-> I hope it works for you man
[06:17] <hax-> Let me know :)
[06:17] <Guest23270> I shall
[06:17] <hax-> =p
[06:17] <hax-> Just don't rejoice too much
[06:17] <hax-> you'll get kicked the fk out!
[06:17] <hax-> lol jk
[06:17] <Guest23270> lol
[06:17] <ceciymaxi> hi there. can anybody help me with a grub problem?
[06:17] <hax-> sorry ops, i'm a smartass :(
[06:18] <hax-> Sure whats up ceciymaxi
[06:18] <ceciymaxi> hax- txs ok, to make a long story short
[06:19] <ceciymaxi> hax- I had to reinstall ubuntu 12.04 alongside with windows 8
[06:19]  * hax- calls stephen king to report upcoming novel
[06:19] <ceciymaxi> hax- but now I cant boot to windows
[06:19] <hax-> hehe
[06:19] <hax-> ah, easy fix
[06:19] <hax-> so now windows wont boot at all right
[06:19] <ceciymaxi> I won' t show in the boot options
[06:19] <hax-> you need to pop in your windows cd and fix the mbr
[06:20] <Beldar> ceciymaxi, Have you run sudo update-grub?
[06:20] <ceciymaxi> that' s the problem. the laptop y brand new and don' t have cd
[06:20] <hax-> I usually just run the mbr fix and it solves the issue for me
[06:20] <hax-> ahh
[06:20] <hax-> and windows 8 you say?
[06:20] <ceciymaxi> yeap
[06:20] <hax-> what version, home?
[06:21] <ceciymaxi> I guess...it's an ASUS laptop
[06:21] <ceciymaxi> i would really get rid of w8 but I don' t want to void the warranty
[06:21] <darshanbm1991> I'm able to connect onto my Openvpn network using command "sudo openvpn --config client.ovpn", even a new network interface is showing up when I type in "sudo ifconfig" command. But my internet traffic is not being routed through my VPN instead Ubuntu is using my default internet connection?
[06:22] <hax-> ceciymaxi: http://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/
[06:22] <hax-> oh wait
[06:22] <hax-> thats not freeware
[06:22] <Beldar> bad advice
[06:22] <hax-> let me find an alternative for ya
[06:22] <tenX> darshanbm1991: thats configurable
[06:23] <hax-> I would say you could run the fix with a burned 'illegal' copy, but it wouldn't really be illegal if you own the os
[06:23] <Beldar> hax-, Do you know anything about uefi and gpt and W8 dual boots?
[06:23] <pvl1> can i install ubuntu onto another partition from ubuntu
[06:23] <darshanbm1991> tenX: How? Can you please elaborate, thanks for replying
[06:23] <hax-> a dual boot on windows 8 is pretty must just the same as windows 7
[06:23] <hax-> and windows vista, and xp
[06:24] <Beldar> hax-, ah no it's not if uefi
[06:24] <ceciymaxi> Beldar hax- it is uefi
[06:24] <hax-> i see
[06:24] <JesperHead> Beldar: any thoughts?
[06:24] <tenX> darshanbm1991: well it depends on your needs
[06:24] <lickalott> hey all.  Just fixed/rebuilt my server after some devistation.  luckily I was able to pull some stuff from a beat to death partition.  but I don't want to do that again....  Anyone have good recommendations for backup/image programs for linux/ubuntu?  So far I've played with FSarchiver (didn't like) and clonezilla (jury it out still).
[06:25] <CPRdummy> pvl1: yep
[06:25] <Beldar> ceciymaxi, try this app save the url of the boot info summary https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[06:25] <tenX> darshanbm1991: as you describe it seems the server is configured to hand out routing via vpn
[06:25] <pvl1> CPRdummy: how would i do that
[06:25] <darshanbm1991> tenX: Yes
[06:25] <ceciymaxi> Beldar I tried boot repair but when I try to run the fix, it keeps saying that it need to umount endlessly
[06:26] <tenX> darshanbm1991: can you influence the openvpn server?
[06:26] <ceciymaxi> Beldar  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6575169/
[06:26] <darshanbm1991> tenX: No, its an corporate server
[06:26] <CPRdummy> pvl1: the same way you installed ubuntu in the first place
[06:26] <darshanbm1991> tenX: I've no control over it
[06:26] <hax-> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreUbuntu/XP/Vista/7Bootloader
[06:27] <tenX> darshanbm1991: but can you control local routing on that system?
[06:27] <Tex_Nick> OerHeks: you still here ?
[06:27] <hax-> If you have one of the many OEM computers that didn't come with a Windows installation disk, you can get the same effect with a Windows repair disk, which you can download (eg Win7-32bit, Win7 64bit) or create from another Windows Vista/7/8 computer (see this page for Win7 and Make your own Windows repairCD, and Windows 8 UEFI repair USB must be FAT32, other W
[06:27] <hax-> hmmmm
[06:27] <jony> 没有中文的吗
[06:27] <hax-> Pretty sure thats just what I fkin said
[06:28] <Guest75533> Great moon landing
[06:28] <CPRdummy> 不要什么中国人
[06:28] <hax-> follow this for booting from usb
[06:28] <tenX> darshanbm1991: you'd have to delete the default route set by ovpn
[06:28] <hax-> http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/e7ed293e-b565-44ee-a536-166dddf32205/how-to-create-windows-8-installation-bootable-usb-for-uefi-samsung-slate?forum=samsungpcgeneral
[06:28] <Guest75533> Thats how you do it
[06:28] <Guest75533> No Humpty Dumpty that lol
[06:28] <Beldar> ceciymaxi, This is about the last place for good help on uefi, post that script at this thread and explain the issues, it is the bootrepair's developer and users that focus on these dual boots. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10871917#post10871917
[06:28] <AdamBInfinity> my terminal is not displaying the bold colors the same as the text color. the profile has the option checked but a script displaying my colors disagrees
[06:28] <darshanbm1991> tenX: Ok, how do I do that?
[06:29] <hax-> it isn't a complicated process >.<
[06:29] <hax-> lol
[06:29] <hax-> complicated, is this freakin packetfence that hates me =D
[06:30] <ceciymaxi> Beldar txs
[06:30] <ezra_> hax
[06:30] <ceciymaxi> Beldar I post my problem in the ubuntu forum but got no answer, that's how I came here
[06:30] <ezra_> Thank you for the help. i now have full usb support and networking.
[06:31] <Beldar> hax-, You have shown yourself to be a fool, any dislike of you is valid.
[06:31] <Jordan_U> ceciymaxi: What is the output of "sudo os-prober"?
[06:31] <ezra_> Hax- just helped me fix my usb and networking issue so I wouldn't really say hes a fool. He is quite helpful :P
[06:31] <Beldar> ceciymaxi, lets see the thread.
[06:32] <hax-> yay ezra_!
[06:32] <hax-> glad it worked man
[06:33] <hax-> Beldar: suck on a big fat cock named kellogs
[06:33] <Beldar> ceciymaxi, I will say though that Jordan_U is excellent in this area, as far as help here.
[06:33] <hax-> see that, you thought I was being sexual, but I said to suck on a rooster
[06:33] <hax-> so bite me
[06:33] <ezra_> lol
[06:34] <ceciymaxi> Jordan_U /dev/sda2:Windows Recovery Environment (loader):Windows:chain
[06:34] <ceciymaxi> /dev/sda4:Windows 8 (loader):Windows1:chain
[06:34] <Jordan_U> hax-: Please keep discussion here civil and polite.
[06:35] <Jordan_U> ceciymaxi: Please pastebin the output of "sudo update-grub".
[06:35] <JesperHead> Beldar: nothing? been trying to get a response from you. Starting to think you dont like me.
[06:36] <ceciymaxi> Jordan_U how I pastebin? just paste?
[06:36] <JesperHead> ceciymaxi: google "ubuntu paste"
[06:36] <rootpt> Can somebody tell me please, how can i put the size of the menu launcher in the left side smaller than 32?
[06:36] <Jordan_U> ceciymaxi: No, do not just paste.
[06:36] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | ceciymaxi
[06:37] <ceciymaxi> Jordan_U http://paste.ubuntu.com/6576586/
[06:37] <rootpt> i don't remember
[06:37] <Beldar> rootpt, I have not seen anything for smaller than 32, you can set it to hide.
[06:38] <rootpt> but theres a way in the CompizConfig Settings Manager
[06:38] <rootpt> But i don't remember
[06:38] <hax-> Sorry I didn't know you were a vegetarian
[06:38] <hax-> :(
[06:38] <rootpt> I do not remember how I did the last time
[06:38] <Jordan_U> hax-: Please keep discussion support related and stop the silly games. This is your last warning.
[06:39] <Beldar> rootpt, I found this. http://askubuntu.com/questions/70306/can-i-make-the-launcher-icons-smaller-than-32-pixels
[06:39] <hax-> I'm just helping ppl out in here Jordan_U
[06:39] <hax-> chill bro
[06:39] <hax-> no need for hostility and threats n stuff
[06:39] <ceciymaxi> Jordan_U is that what you meant?
[06:39] <Jordan_U> ceciymaxi: Yes.
[06:39] <ceciymaxi> Jordan_U, great
[06:39] <rootpt> Beldar, i think is that.. thanks man
[06:40] <Beldar> rootpt, No prob I don't use unity so was not sure.
[06:40] <rootpt> Beldar, i see, thanks a lot again..
[06:40] <rootpt> Do u use gnome?
[06:40] <Beldar> gnime shel
[06:40] <AdamBInfinity> my terminal is not displaying the bold colors the same as the text color. the profile has the option checked but a script displaying my colors disagrees
[06:40] <Beldar> shell*
[06:40] <Jordan_U> ceciymaxi: Now please pastebin the contents of /boot/grub/grub.cfg (which you can access by running "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/grub.cfg", or if you have pastebinit installed you can pastebin it directly with "sudo cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | pastebinit").
[06:41] <rootpt> Its possible to install gnome and when i login i choose if i want to login in gnome or unity ?
[06:41] <pvl1> CPRdummy: i meant if its possible to run ubiquity and install ubuntu to another partition without a livecd
[06:41] <CPRdummy> pvl1: sorry i'm not sure then
[06:42] <ceciymaxi> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6576601/
[06:42]  * rootpt is back!
[06:42] <Beldar> rootpt, You can install desktops yes and choose at login, do you mean the gnome shell or fallback?
[06:42] <Rallias> Is there a tutorial floating around on how to set up native IPv6 via DHCP6 on ubuntu?
[06:42] <rootpt> Beldar, gnome..
[06:42] <rootpt> What is fallback ?
[06:43] <rootpt> Sorry, my english is not that good :X
[06:43] <Beldar> rootpt, gnome what? there is no gnome 2 the fallback is a pseudo version of it.
[06:43] <unicornj1di> hello
[06:43] <unicornjedi> aha, hello unicornjedi
[06:43] <rootpt> ah.. roger that..
[06:43] <rootpt> i will try to install gnome
[06:44] <Jordan_U> ceciymaxi: Well, the good news is that update-grub generated entries for Windows 8. The bad news is that they're wrong. So I'll walk you through adding working entries.
[06:44] <unicornjedi> okay irssi works
[06:44] <ceciymaxi> Jordan_U, great!
[06:44] <rootpt> And every time i login i choose what i wanna use.. if unity or gnome, right Beldar ?
[06:44] <Beldar> rootpt, Be sure you are correct there is the gnome shell, gnome 3 is under the unity desktop and the base of the shell and the fallback.
[06:44] <snucka> question : what is glibc and how do I get it / install it / check if I have it
[06:45] <Beldar> rootpt, gnome alone is to vague
[06:45] <rootpt> Beldar, u're the man, thanks ;-)
[06:45] <rootpt> i see..
[06:45] <hax-> snucka: its just a standard library
[06:45] <rootpt> i think i will let only the unity
[06:46] <Beldar> cool enjoy rootpt
[06:46] <snucka> ok so i probly arlready have it?
[06:46] <rootpt> I'm used with unity
[06:46] <snucka> with ubuntu
[06:46] <rootpt> Thanks again Beldar.
[06:46] <hax-> yeah
[06:46] <hax-> just type in ldd --version
[06:46] <hax-> it should say something in there what version youhave
[06:49] <ceciymaxi> Jordan_U, sorry..are u still there?
[06:50] <Jordan_U> ceciymaxi: Yes.
[06:51] <ceciymaxi> Jordan_U, ok I'll follow you when you say so
[06:53] <Jordan_U> ceciymaxi: Run "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/custom.cfg", which will open a new gedit window, and paste this into it: http://paste.fedoraproject.org/61926/9029813/raw/ then save. This will create a new file, /boot/grub/custom.cfg with our custom entries.
[06:53] <thom__> hello
[06:54] <ceciymaxi> Jordan_U, sorry...but the custom.cfg file appears to be empty
[06:54] <Jordan_U> ceciymaxi: That's expected, you're creating a new file.
[06:54] <ceciymaxi> Jordan_U, sorry....Now I understand
[06:55] <Jordan_U> ceciymaxi: You can now quit gedit and reboot your computer. At boot you'll have 4 entries for Windows, the first two won't work, and the second two should both successfully boot Windows. Once we've confirmed that the third entry works, we'll get rid of all of the rest.
[06:55] <ceciymaxi> let me save and reboot
[06:56] <ceciymaxi> Jordan_U I'll be right back
[06:56] <jmgk> hi all
[06:57] <thom__> hi jmgk
[06:57] <snucka> question : when installing amd catalyst drivers should I generate a distribution specific driver package??
[06:57] <snucka> or just do the normal install
[06:59] <hax-> snucka: i've always done just a normal install on amd drivers as well as any other vid drivers
[06:59] <hax-> unless readme calls diff
[07:00] <rootpt> Beldar, just one more thing
[07:00] <rootpt> To download a file in the console i use wget, and to upload ?
[07:01] <zimeng> exit
[07:01] <zimeng> sorry
[07:01] <ceciymaxi> Jordan_U, I'm back
[07:02] <rootpt> To download a file in the console i use wget, and to upload whats the command ?
[07:02] <Jordan_U> rootpt: Specifically how you do it depends on where you're uploading too, but wget also.
[07:02] <ceciymaxi> Jordan_U, the first attemps with the 3rd and 4rd option didn' t work
[07:02] <Jordan_U> ceciymaxi: What happened when you selected those entries?
[07:02] <ceciymaxi> Jordan_U, but then the 3rd. one worked and I was prompted with a Windows Recovery screen
[07:03] <rootpt> if i want to upload lets say, if im connected in 1 machine with ubuntu by ssh, and i want to send a file from my computer
[07:03] <ceciymaxi> Jordan_U, when I saw that recovery screen I just came back here
[07:03] <rootpt> isn't is the command: put ?
[07:04] <rootpt> no :X
[07:05] <Jordan_U> rootpt: That's an ftp command, used at an ftp shell, not a *NIX command per-se (you would use a different command to first get to an ftp shell). What is your end goal?
[07:05] <rootpt> just want to know how can i upload 1 file to other machine
[07:06] <rootpt> Like wget is to download
[07:06] <rootpt> How can i upload to other machine
[07:06] <rootpt> if its possible ..
[07:07] <redtravis> maybe someone here can answer a quick question I am using windows but I love the linux terminal is there a good program out there that would emulate a linux terminal? I am curently using git but it dosent get any wider than 1/3 of my screen and no tab support
[07:07] <rootpt> redtravis, like putty ?
[07:08] <pvl1> why is udev taking up almost 4g, but only using 1%
[07:08] <ceciymaxi> Jordan_U, should I run the recovery from windows?
[07:08] <Ben64> redtravis: sounds like a question for ##windows
[07:08] <Jordan_U> ceciymaxi: No (at least not yet).
[07:08] <ceciymaxi> Jordan_U, ok
[07:08] <Jordan_U> ceciymaxi: What happened the first time you used the third and fourth entries?
[07:09] <Scip> hey, does anyone know how I can suspend ubuntu running from a USB HDD?
[07:09] <Scip> overcoming power issues
[07:09] <Overlordz> redtravis, try Cygwin
[07:09] <Overlordz> redtravis, and maybe Console2
[07:09] <ceciymaxi> Jordan_U,  it just went back to the grub menu
[07:09] <ceciymaxi> Jordan_U, but I could get to the recovery window at the second attempt selecting the 3rd. option
[07:10] <hax-> *cough* /fixmbr was one cmd just sayin
[07:10] <Jordan_U> ceciymaxi: OK, I'm not sure what to make of that. Try the fourth entry again.
[07:10] <redtravis> rootpt: putty as far as far as I know is for ssh and what I want is to be able to use the commands I have gooten used to on windows like ls instead of dir
[07:10] <ceciymaxi> Jordan_U, with the fourth one I just got back to the grub menu
[07:10] <Overlordz> yeah you want Cygwin it gives a "Linux like" console on Windows
[07:11] <Jordan_U> ceciymaxi: The second time you tried it as well?
[07:11] <redtravis> Overlordz: ill take a look at Console2 I am already tried out Cygwin and didnt like it too much
[07:11] <ceciymaxi> Jordan_U, yeap
[07:11] <ceciymaxi> Jordan_U, the only one that seemed to work was the 3rd one
[07:13] <Jordan_U> ceciymaxi: That alone makes sense, but I don't know why you're getting a recovery console with the third. I suspect that it's something wrong with Windows rather than something wrong with how we're loading Windows. Please join ##windows and we can see if anyone there can shed some light on this.
[07:13] <ceciymaxi> Jordan_U, ok
[07:14] <Overlordz> redtravis, what didn't you like about Cygwin?  I think you can configure Console2 to work with Cygwin if you just didn't like the window
[07:15] <ceciymaxi> Jordan_U, should I explain everything we just did?
[07:17] <snucka> hax, so I installed the amd drivers successfully into ubuntu 13.04, now I'm stuck at the desktop background with just a moveable mouse pointer.
[07:18] <snucka> any ideas?
[07:18] <hax-> snucka i had the same prob the other day
[07:18] <hax-> ctrl+alt+f into your other console window and apt-get install kubuntu
[07:18] <hax-> I believe i said this earlier =D
[07:18] <hax-> lol
[07:18] <hax-> silly head
[07:19] <snucka> now its locked up
[07:19] <snucka> mouse and everything
[07:19] <snucka> KH
[07:19] <snucka> ill try again
[07:20] <snucka> what is kubuntu
[07:20] <snucka> is that another gui?
[07:22] <hax-> snucka Kubuntu is just a derivative of the Ubuntu operating system
[07:22] <snucka> ok i rebooted and got a window that said "you are running in low graphics mode"
[07:22] <snucka> i clicked ok and it gave me 4 options
[07:22] <hax-> it is all the same tbh for a novice user
[07:22] <snucka> i picked the first one
[07:22] <hax-> why not 1 sounds like a good number
[07:22] <hax-> lol
[07:22] <snucka> "run in low graphics for just one session"
[07:23] <snucka> now its stuck at bliking curser in top left screen
[07:24] <grendal_prime> snucka, what is this running on?
[07:24] <snucka> uhh
[07:24] <snucka> amd fx
[07:25] <grendal_prime> amd makes computers?
[07:25] <grendal_prime> where have i been?
[07:25] <snucka> via vl805 north bridge
[07:25] <snucka> i built the com
[07:25] <snucka> gigabyte mobo
[07:25] <grendal_prime> oh ok
[07:25] <snucka> ga970a
[07:26] <grendal_prime> crtl + alt + f1
[07:26] <grendal_prime> should give you a terminal prompt
[07:26] <hax-> sorry in multiple chans lol
[07:26] <darshanbm1991> I'm able to connect onto my Openvpn network using command "sudo openvpn --config client.ovpn", even a new network interface is showing up when I type in "sudo ifconfig" command. But my internet traffic is not being routed through my VPN instead Ubuntu is using my default internet connection, can you please help me out?
[07:26] <grendal_prime> then type dmesg
[07:32] <grendal_prime> grahamsavage,  damn cool nic dude
[07:37] <thom__> did anyone download Steam OS?
[07:37] <knightshade2> Yap
[07:37] <thom__> did you install it?
[07:37] <knightshade2> Nope
[07:37] <thom__> I watched a few videos on it
[07:37] <darshanbm19911> I'm able to connect onto my Openvpn network using command "sudo openvpn --config client.ovpn", even a new network interface is showing up when I type in "sudo ifconfig" command. But my internet traffic is not being routed through my VPN instead Ubuntu is using my default internet connection, can you please help me out?
[07:38] <grendal_prime> sure
[07:38] <grendal_prime> darshanbm19911,
[07:38] <grendal_prime> you need to push something to your clients.
[07:38] <darshanbm19911>  grendal_prime: hey
[07:38] <darshanbm19911>  grendal_prime: ok
[07:38] <grendal_prime> you may need to enable a security level as well.
[07:39] <grendal_prime> level 3 i think
[07:39] <grendal_prime> hold on ill get you the link for that.
[07:39] <darshanbm19911>  grendal_prime: ok
[07:39] <grendal_prime> do you need to push to just one user or all on a vpn?
[07:40] <grendal_prime> and you do realize when you do this,  all of your traffic will be going through the vpn.
[07:40] <darshanbm19911> grendal_prime: all the users
[07:40] <darshanbm19911> grendal_prime: yes, I do
[07:40] <grendal_prime> not just stuff destined to the network defined by the vpn server.
[07:40] <grendal_prime> ok..
[07:40] <thom__> So it seems that Steam OS is based on Debian. It comes with a couple different desktop environments. maybe in a few months when all the bugs are worked out it will be a legit OS for the living room.
[07:41] <grendal_prime> thats a rabbithole you need to think about ..but if you know thats what you want then that is the first step in going down that rabbit hole.
[07:42] <darshanbm19911> grendal_prime:  rabbit hole?
[07:42] <grendal_prime> figure of speech.
[07:42] <darshanbm19911> grendal_prime:  ok
[07:44] <grendal_prime> ive done this in the past(making anonymous browsing servers for china) im looking through my notes
[07:44] <darshanbm19911> grendal_prime: ok
[07:45] <thom__> Has anyone seen this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XTHdcmjenI
[07:47] <grendal_prime> darshanbm19911,  the directive you are looking for is redirect-gateway
[07:48] <Beldar> thom__, This is ubuntu support not chat.
[07:48] <darshanbm19911>  grendal_prime: searching the term on google
[07:49] <grendal_prime> http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/howto.html
[07:49] <grendal_prime> search for "redirect-gateway"
[07:49] <grendal_prime> basically states this
[07:49] <grendal_prime> Add the following directive to the server configuration file:
[07:49] <grendal_prime>     push "redirect-gateway def1"
[07:50] <grendal_prime> that should give you what you need.  i know a lot of chines it worked for
[07:50] <grendal_prime> also.  the server you are running this on will need ip forewarding enabled.
[07:52] <tenX> darshanbm19911: and that is exactly what i've ben explaining to you
[07:53] <darshanbm19911> grendal_prime: I don't have any authorization on server , I was just given a ".ovpn" file , I've used openvpn on windows to access my work related websites(Which are accessible only through Openvpn) , I shifted over to Ubuntu, I'm trying to replace my Windows
[07:53] <grahamsavage> grendal: lol.. yeah very original
[07:53] <grahamsavage> first and last name
[07:53] <grahamsavage> is it possible to get google authenticator working for logging into ubuntu?
[07:54] <tenX> grahamsavage: what does google authenticator auth you for?
[07:54] <grahamsavage> tenX: that you have your phone on you
[07:54] <Pici> grahamsavage: Looks like there are instructions on the google authenticator's google code page: https://code.google.com/p/google-authenticator/wiki/PamModuleInstructions
[07:55] <Pici> No idea if it works or not though.
[07:55] <grahamsavage> Pici: yeah it works for ssh
[07:55] <grahamsavage> i've got it working on gmail / ssh / lastpass / google talk
[07:56] <kryptar> Hey, does anyone know how to resize a NTFS partition from linux? GParted will not allow me to resize c:
[07:56] <grendal_prime> darshanbm19911,   and you will need to basically set the host of the openvpn server up as a router.
[07:56] <tenX> grahamsavage: so its a client interface to auth your mobile device to google enabling you to interact further in what way?
[07:56] <grendal_prime> are you prepaired to do that?
[07:57] <darshanbm19911> Yes
[07:57] <grahamsavage> tenX: ok for ssh, it will require the code from your phone to be able to ssh in
[07:57] <Beldar> kryptar, what is the windows release?
[07:57] <darshanbm19911> grendal_prime:  yes
[07:57] <Pici> tenX: its like an RSA key fob
[07:57] <grendal_prime> did you find the documentation i was reffering to at the openvpn.net site?
[07:57] <tenX> grahamsavage: excuse me just asking for interest right now could google it right ahead
[07:58] <kryptar> Windows 7 professional
[07:58] <Beldar> kryptar, use nicks here, if bootable use it's disk manager to resize.
[07:58] <darshanbm19911> grendal_prime: Yes
[07:58] <tenX> Pici: still dont get the context could you explain plz?
[07:58] <grendal_prime> if so...proceed with configureation as documented and report at next roadblock
[07:58] <darshanbm19911> grendal_prime: I've already followed those steps
[07:58] <Jordan_U> kryptar: What error message do you get when you try to resize it?
[07:59] <tenX> grendal_prime: if gone through every step with darshanbm19911
[07:59] <tenX> grendal_prime: concerning ovpn
[07:59] <grendal_prime> darshanbm19911,  is there a firewall on the host?
[07:59] <kryptar> Jordan_U: Well, I get no error message, but it says the Maximum and Minimum sizes I can resize to are the same
[07:59] <grahamsavage> tenX: yeah it's really good to stop hackers.. basically they don't have the device, even if they have your password they can't login
[07:59] <darshanbm19911> grendal_prime: just the default firewall that comes in with Ubuntu
[08:00] <darshanbm19911> grendal_prime: Iptables (ufw)
[08:00] <tenX> grahamsavage: really dunno what kind of technique we're talking about, sorry for asking
[08:00] <tenX> grahamsavage: could google it up of course
[08:00] <grahamsavage> tenX: so for example we currently have a deployment archtecture based on private keys which sit on my computer... with this i can type in an additional code from my mobile which will authenticate it.  Even if they get your password, they can't login
[08:01] <grendal_prime> can anyone tell me if that firewall is in an active state...at install...also  darshanbm19911 have you nmap that address to see if you can see the vpn accepting port?
[08:01] <grahamsavage> tenX: each code only lasts for about 30 seconds
[08:01] <Pici> grendal_prime: there are no iptables rules active at install time.
[08:02] <tenX> grahamsavage: k it's some sort of client auth then?
[08:02] <darshanbm19911> grendal_prime: No, its disabled  by default
[08:02] <grahamsavage> yeah it's two-factor authentication
[08:02] <tenX> grahamsavage: i see but for what services?
[08:02] <grahamsavage> tenX: it's like with my bank i have a hardware device i use everytime i do transactions online
[08:02] <grendal_prime> darshanbm19911,   This is what i do as my dayjob.. Literally..openvpn concentrator replacements for cisco concentrators.  would you be comfortable with granting me root access to the box.  There will be a minor fee
[08:02] <grahamsavage> tenx: gmail / google accounts in general / lastpass / ssh etc
[08:02] <grahamsavage> + any app you build it into
[08:03] <tenX> grahamsavage: thanks for your time and explanation
[08:03] <grendal_prime> i was kidding about the fee
[08:04] <tenX> grahamsavage: familiar with 2-way auth
[08:04] <grendal_prime> but you may have to marry my ugly sister.
[08:04] <grendal_prime> in my country that is the price you pay for knowledge.
[08:05] <tenX> grahamsavage: so that is specific to google services and related to android?
[08:05] <darshanbm19911> grendal_prime: lol, caan you walk me through the steps?
[08:05] <grahamsavage> tenX: nah you can implement it in your own apps
[08:06] <grendal_prime> I could but it sounds like that has already been done.
[08:06] <grendal_prime> tell you what
[08:06] <tenX> grahamsavage: "app" is mobile related for me
[08:06] <grahamsavage> tenX: any apps.. mobile /desktop / web
[08:07] <Overlordz> grendal_prime, how is Bertha doing these days anyhow?
[08:07] <tenX> grahamsavage: k a standardized way of 2-way-auth then
[08:08] <knightwi1e> hey everyone
[08:09] <knightwi1e>  I have an issue with my synaptecs touchpad driver
[08:09] <knightwi1e> I have to reboot twice for it to start working (first time it doesn't detect my mouse)
[08:09] <knightwi1e> its a common problem in Ubuntu and I was wondering that it might not be an issue on Mint Debian edition.
[08:09] <knightwi1e> anyone have any experience with this ?
[08:10] <Beldar> kryptar, My advice would be to use the windows partitioner however can you take a screen shot of gparted and post it to imagebin.
[08:37] <grendal_prime> Overlordz,  bertha?
[08:44] <helmut_> hi
[08:48] <djaz> is there any good hacking chat rooms i can go in uk pref so i can speak to people in the uk who white hat hack
[08:51] <lotuspsychje> !alis | djaz
[08:52] <john_rambo> When I open ubuntuforums.org the page doesnt appear properly and I see (on the address bar) "the website does not supply identity information ...... This didnt happen the last time I visited ..... Anything I can do ?
[08:52] <ikonia> john_rambo: can you please take a screen shot
[08:53] <john_rambo> ikonia, After taking the screenshot ... where can I upload the pic ?
[08:53] <ikonia> john_rambo: image bin ? drop box ? anywhere you want to share
[08:54] <john_rambo> ikonia, 1 sec
[08:54] <boldfilter1> Hey ubuntu chat
[08:54] <Xeus> I am running Ubuntu Server in a VM on Windows Server 2012, the primary partition ran out of space and I am using LVM so I increased the virtual disk size, however when I try to create a new partition it is only 1023 blocks available on the drive although fdisk shows the disk at the proper new size. It appears that the existing partition /dev/sda5 ate up all
[08:54] <Xeus> those new blocks automatically yet the space is not available to increase the logical volume size? Can someone please help me? Thanks!
[08:55] <ikonia> Xeus: please pastebin the output of the command "df -h" and vgdisplay
[08:56] <Rory> Xeus: I think you also have to resize the LVM volume group also http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/extendlv.html
[08:56] <Xeus> http://pastebin.com/8v4yHpuz
[08:56] <ikonia> Xeus: you're running blackbox, not ubuntu
[08:57] <Xeus> blackbox is my hostname
[08:57] <ikonia> Xeus: there are other hints that suggest you are running blackbox
[08:57] <john_rambo> ikonia, http://imagebin.org/282348
[08:57] <Xeus> I am seriously running Ubuntu Server, not blackbox
[08:57] <Xeus> that is just my hostname
[08:58] <ikonia> Xeus: ok, so your volume group is fully allocated, how did you grow the volume
[08:58] <Xeus> I didn't do anything to it, all I did was resize the VHD
[08:58] <ikonia> Xeus: right, so you can't just do that,
[08:59] <ikonia> Xeus: you can't change the disk under the operating system and expect lvm to know it's changed
[08:59] <Xeus> I realize that
[08:59] <ikonia> Xeus: then why are you surprised it's not working
[08:59] <Xeus> I need to create a new partition to allocate those new blocks
[08:59] <vmuser> is there way to cache Unity's dash
[08:59] <vmuser> since it's super slow
[08:59] <Xeus> I'm following this tutorial: http://www.rootusers.com/how-to-increase-the-size-of-a-linux-lvm-by-expanding-the-virtual-machine-disk/
[08:59] <Xeus> When I create /dev/sda3 it only gets 1023 blocks
[09:00] <Xeus> because there are only 1023 blocks available
[09:00] <Xeus> I rebooted, etc
[09:00] <lotuspsychje> vmuser: what are your system specs mate?
[09:00] <Xeus> the original disk size was 6GB and I resized it to around 28GB
[09:00] <ikonia> Xeus: how are you creating the new partition
[09:00] <Xeus> fdisk /dev/sda
[09:00] <Xeus> create new primary partition
[09:00] <vmuser> lotuspsychje, Corsair SSD (last year model), 32GB DDR3, Phenom X6
[09:00] <Xeus> set it up as an LVM with 8e hex code
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> vmuser: unity should work rocketfast then, what ubuntu version are you on?
[09:01] <vmuser> lotuspsychje, and an 5770 for VGA
[09:01] <ikonia> john_rambo: please visit https://www.ubuntuforums.com
[09:01] <vmuser> lotuspsychje, 13.10
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> vmuser: grafix drivers installed?
[09:01] <ikonia> john_rambo: it appears you've told the browser to only display secure content
[09:01] <vmuser> lotuspsychje, naturally
[09:01] <ikonia> john_rambo: the images are not served over https nor the stylesheet
[09:02] <lotuspsychje> vmuser: can you tell what feels slow on it?
[09:02] <ikonia> Xeus: can I please see in a pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda" please
[09:02] <asad2005> In conky if i use alignment top_right the whole window disappear, how do i align? Is this a bug?
[09:02] <vmuser> lotuspsychje, still there is like 2-3 sec when searching for application via the windows/super key
[09:03] <Xeus> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/zbPmsF7z
[09:03] <lotuspsychje> vmuser: you had this on previous ubuntu versions?
[09:03] <john_rambo> ikonia, When I visit https://www.ubuntuforums.com I get  "The connection is Untrusted" ............I have instaeed the https everywhre addon is that causing the issue ?
[09:03] <vmuser> on this machine nope, and on the other one I'm on KDE
[09:03] <ikonia> john_rambo: what https addon ?
[09:04] <vmuser> which is a 12.04
[09:04] <ikonia> Xeus: ok, that partition looks good, what do you do next ?
[09:04] <Guest78233> hi, i'm looking for a tiny(<300MB) ubuntu distro with apt-get support, do you know of any?
[09:04] <ikonia> Guest78233: not going to happen
[09:04] <john_rambo> ikonia, https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere
[09:04] <Xeus> ikonia: I try to create a new primary partition /dev/sda3 and it only gets 1023 blocks allocated (the rest of the remaining blocks on the disk)
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> vmuser: could be a 13.10 issue then, not sure what, but might take a look in /var/log/syslog
[09:05] <Xeus> ikonia: it appears /dev/sda3 automatically took the new blocks?
[09:05] <vmuser> lotuspsychje, nothing of interest there, did it already
[09:05] <vmuser> that's why i presume it's searching dynamically instead of caching the current contents
[09:05] <Guest78233> ikonia: are you sure? there are some really small ubuntu variants out there
[09:05] <ikonia> john_rambo: what the hell is that ? or the point of that "it makes browsers use https.....browsers already use https, that looks like a worthless bug of an application"
[09:06] <ikonia> Guest78233: use one off them then, there are certainly no official supported ones
[09:06] <lotuspsychje> vmuser: did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[09:06] <Rory> ikonia: I confirm, it breaks sites that deliver some content over http and other over https
[09:06] <vmuser> lotuspsychje, yes
[09:06] <ikonia> Xeus: here is no sda3 partition in your pastebin.....
[09:06] <ikonia> Xeus: so I'm not sure what you are looking at
[09:07] <Xeus> ikonia: I'm sorry, it appears /dev/sda5 took all the new blocks
[09:07] <vmuser> lotuspsychje, it's not a recent machine, but I think despite the old processor it should fly
[09:07] <Guest78233> ikonia: ok i see... perhaps there's a better channel to ask this type of question
[09:07] <ikonia> Xeus: but that disk likes fine and fully allow allocated apart from a small gap between sda1/sda2
[09:07] <Xeus> ikonia: /dev/sda3 is what I am trying to create
[09:07] <ikonia> Xeus: sda5 https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere
[09:07] <ikonia> oops
[09:07] <ikonia> sorry, ignore that
[09:07] <Xeus> ikonia: so /dev/sda5 took the new blocks automatically? why?
[09:08] <ikonia> Xeus: how do you expect to create anything when your disk is fully allocated apart from a small gap
[09:08] <ikonia> Xeus: it took all the blocks because somewhere you told it to
[09:08] <john_rambo> ikonia, It actually tells FF to use https whwrever available . For example, by default FF uses the non encrypted Google page but with this addon installed it automatically selects the https  version of Google. I cam to know about this addon while using the tor browser
[09:08] <lotuspsychje> vmuser: with an ssd onboard should work fine
[09:08] <lotuspsychje> vmuser: got me an old amd 3200 with ssd also works rocketfast on latest ubuntu
[09:08] <ikonia> john_rambo: utter junk application
[09:08] <ikonia> hoschi_: type https://www.google.com - it works, you don't need this rubbish thing to do that for you
[09:08] <Xeus> ikonia: I never told it to, I resized the disk, then tried to create a new partition /dev/sda3 and I couldn't get more than 1023 blocks
[09:08] <vmuser> lotuspsychje, maybe should find some guide to customize the dah
[09:08] <ikonia> Xeus: because it's allocated
[09:09] <vmuser> dash* maybe the problem comes from the dynamic search
[09:09] <Xeus> ikonia: I even tried lvextend on my vg to see if it could expand to the entire /dev/sda5 and it says it can't expand anymore
[09:09] <john_rambo> ikonia, OKay....I will just disable it a see if that solves the issue .....
[09:10] <lotuspsychje> vmuser: did you try disable background blur from compiz?
[09:10] <Xeus> ikonia: if the drive is 26.8 GB and /dev/sda5 is using a majority of the blocks, why is my vg only 4.76 GiB?
[09:10] <ikonia> Xeus: I'm really sorry, but I don't understand what you are doing as it appears to just be a mess, you can't "extend" a disk that's already allocated to a volume group as the volume group just won't know about the additional space
[09:10] <vmuser> lotuspsychje, that one, no
[09:10] <vmuser> in which category is it?
[09:10] <Xeus> ikonia: so I am screwed then? I can't expand my vg to use that additional space? or what?
[09:11] <john_rambo> ikonia, No it didnt solve the issue .... I am still getting http://imagebin.org/282348
[09:11] <ikonia> Xeus: the way you would expand the volume group is create a new partition/disk - add the partition/disk to the volume group then extend the volume group
[09:11] <ikonia> sorry extend the volume
[09:11] <Xeus> ikonia: that's what I wanted to do
[09:12] <ikonia> Xeus: that's not what you are doing though.....
[09:12] <Xeus> ikonia: but somehow /dev/sda5 magically got those new blocks
[09:12] <ikonia> john_rambo: that's the same screen shot as before
[09:12] <john_rambo> ikonia, Same thing just happened while using chromium
[09:12] <ikonia> john_rambo: please stop wasting my time
[09:13] <ikonia> john_rambo: you've just given me the same screen shot as before saying "it's still not working"
[09:13] <Xeus> ikonia: at this point do I just increase the size of the disk again and hope the blocks don't get automatically consumed?
[09:13] <ikonia> Xeus: it doesn't "magically" get the new blocks
[09:13] <ikonia> Xeus: sd5 is unchanged - there is no "new" size there, you need to create a NEW partition
[09:13] <Xeus> ikonia: I can't create a new partition that is more than 1023 blocks
[09:14] <lotuspsychje> vmuser: unity plugin, from ccsm
[09:14] <ikonia> Xeus: right, because there is no unallocated space free
[09:14] <Xeus> ikonia: so I have to increase the size of the disk again?
[09:14] <lotuspsychje> vmuser: can you lshw -C video for me?
[09:14] <ikonia> Xeus: to be honest, if I where you, I would create a new disk and add it to the volume group
[09:14] <ikonia> Xeus: you don't really seem to be ontop of lvm and partitions, so a new disk would be simpler for you to manage
[09:15] <Xeus> ikonia: I followed http://www.rootusers.com/how-to-increase-the-size-of-a-linux-lvm-by-expanding-the-virtual-machine-disk/ to the letter, is there something wrong with this method?
[09:15] <ikonia> Xeus: yeah, you said you followed that, there is nothing wrong with it, but you're not really following it properly, creating a new disk would be simpler for you
[09:16] <vmuser> lotuspsychje, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6577078/
[09:17] <vmuser> lotuspsychje, maybe the problem is because I'm running 3 monitors?
[09:18] <ilSt> ^^
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> vmuser: not sure, you should test one first and see if it occurs
[09:18] <Xeus> ikonia: I agree with you that creating a new disk would be simpler, thanks for that -- I did follow the tutorial properly. Good day.
[09:19] <ikonia> Xeus: you didn't follow it, that's why it's not working
[09:19] <Xeus> ikonia: I did follow it, thanks.
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> vmuser: did you find the 'background blur' option?
[09:19] <ikonia> Xeus: if you followed it properly you wouldn't be asking "why does it not work"
[09:20] <ikonia> Xeus: and I can see you're not following it properly, hence why I'm suggesting creating a new disk would be easier for you
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> vmuser: unity plugin from ccsm, dash blur: no blur
[09:21] <Xeus> ikonia: It seems that you are insinuating that I am missing and/or overlooking a key step which I can assure you I am not.
[09:21] <ikonia> Xeus: I assure you, you are,
[09:21] <Xeus> ikonia: okay i will look over it again, thank you for your help
[09:21] <Xeus> ikonia: maybe I am just going insane :)
[09:23] <ikonia> Xeus: it's more that you don't understand partitioning and lvm
[09:23] <vmuser> lotuspsychje, I'll test it, but by no way I'm loosing monitors, need them for work :)
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> vmuser: i did not suggest to loose them :p
[09:24] <Xeus> ikonia: I understand hard drives, blocks and partitions in general, I also understand when a disk is fully allocated. You said it yourself, this disk is fully allocated save for a few blocks in-between 2 partitions (which would be the 1023 blocks)
[09:24] <Xeus> ikonia: which makes no sense to me when the OS is detecting the proper drive size
[09:24] <lotuspsychje> vmuser: no other grafix drivers showup in 'additional drivers' section?
[09:25] <Xeus> ikonia: It leads me to the conclusion that something used the new available blocks and the primary suspect is /dev/sda5
[09:25] <vmuser> lotuspsychje, nope
[09:26] <ikonia> Xeus: if you understand this, I don't understand why you are asking questions such as "why can I only create a partition with 1023 blocks" when you can see there is only 1023 blocks free
[09:26] <vmuser> lotuspsychje, nope, this is what i've got http://paste.ubuntu.com/6577119/
[09:26] <ikonia> Xeus: you "suspect" sda5 - unacceptable,
[09:27] <ikonia> Xeus: you've created an extended partition - I suspect that is your problem
[09:27] <Xeus> ikonia: you are getting into semantics now
[09:27] <Xeus> ikonia: I did not create /dev/sda2
[09:27] <is2b007> require some assistance, I was trying to assign a hdd from /media/ to plex on Ubuntu 12.04, there were some complications from permissions, I looked around and saw I had to mount the drive to /mnt/ in order for it to be detected. I forcefully unmounted the drive and tried to mount it on. something happened, I messed around with it and now it's got "Corrupted file $UpCase, Input/output error"
[09:27] <is2b007> NTFS is inconsistent. Run chkdsk /f on windows. is there anyway to fix this via ubuntu
[09:27] <Xeus> ikonia: that was and always has been there
[09:27] <ikonia> Xeus: no, I'm not getting into semantics
[09:28] <ikonia> Xeus: I'm stating what you are saying makes no sense
[09:28] <Rory> is2b007: The best thing would be to do it in Windows, is that an option?
[09:28] <is2b007> could it be done via a windows xp live usb?
[09:28] <Rory> is2b007: I don't think that exists
[09:29] <Rory> is2b007: Why do you have an NTFS partition if you don't use Windows dual boot?
[09:29] <Xeus> ikonia: Instead of being a Stephen Mroczek and trolling people when you know the answer to their problem. perhaps you could provide some clues as to why I might be experiencing this issue rather than saying "You are a fucking piece of shit idiot who will never understand what you are doing so you should just give up"
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> vmuser: maybe go back and test LTS and see if your issue persists? (if you need it to be stable for work)
[09:29] <Xeus> ikonia: because what you are doing now is not only unhelpful, but demeaning
[09:29] <is2b007> Rory: there was an error when trying to create ext4
[09:30] <is2b007> Rory: decided to go NTFS, is there anyway to fix it via ubuntu
[09:30] <vmuser> lotuspsychje, nah, it stable enough as it is, just annoying
[09:30] <vmuser> I was just fooling around with 13.10
[09:30] <vmuser> but had to use it, since the main machine died :D
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> vmuser: im skipping 13.10 myself and wait for 14.04 lts
[09:31] <Rory> is2b007: You can use ntfsfix which is part of the ntfsprogs package (sudo apt-get install ntfsprogs) - sudo ntfsfix /dev/sdXN (replace /dev/sdXN with your actual partition)
[09:31] <ikonia> Xeus: if you don't want to deal with a honest conversation to understand and fix your problem due to your ego, thats your problem and I'll leave you to feel you have a superior understanding than you do....but with a broken system
[09:31] <grendal_prime> always my advice to everyone is LTS
[09:31] <Calinou> grendal_prime, not a good advice
[09:31] <grendal_prime> 8 years says you are wrong
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> grendal_prime: well, 13.04 was pretty fast for me and stable
[09:32] <ikonia> grendal_prime: please, it's not "black and white"
[09:32] <Calinou> no
[09:32] <grendal_prime> you want a list want doesnt work when it should?
[09:32] <ikonia> grendal_prime: no,
[09:32] <vmuser> lotuspsychje, normal - does "intermediate" releases between the LTS are pretty much pointless IMO, they should just do LTS and having a rolling release "cutting edge" or something like that and do it arch style
[09:32] <grendal_prime> then shut up
[09:32] <ikonia> hoschi_: you've just come in an blindly randomly said "lts always"
[09:32] <vmuser> those* I meant
[09:32] <Calinou> if something doesn't work, it's usually due to a PEBKAC, or to an easily fixable bug
[09:32] <ikonia> grendal_prime: no - don't talk to pelple like that
[09:32] <Calinou> if you add 50 PPAs, deal with it
[09:33] <grendal_prime> Long term support
[09:33] <ikonia> grendal_prime: if you cannot be realistic with the advice you give or grasp that it's not black and white, then you should not be giving out random help
[09:33] <grendal_prime> if that does not mean what it is should then it should be renamed
[09:33] <is2b007> Rory: I ran it, supposedly $UpCase was fixed, when I went to gparted it specifies Inode is corrupt(625) something about the cluster accounting failing with there being extra clusters in $Bitmap
[09:33] <ikonia> hoschi_: apologies, that was not meant for you
[09:33] <ikonia> grendal_prime: do you have an ubuntu support question ?
[09:34] <grendal_prime> i was offering assistance
[09:34] <ikonia> grendal_prime: now we've moved off that to you randomly insulting people, so lets stop for a while please.
[09:34] <grendal_prime> based on over 8 years of experinece
[09:34] <ikonia> grendal_prime: your experience and needs, which is not the same for everyone else
[09:34] <ikonia> grendal_prime: assesing the other users needs and wants is key
[09:34] <grendal_prime> i insulted nobody.
[09:35] <Rory> is2b007: I strongly recommend running a chkdsk from Windows. ntfs support on Linux is still technically a bit of a hack, since there's no official support from Microsoft for it
[09:35] <ikonia> grendal_prime: "shut up" - that is no how you speak to people
[09:35] <ikonia> grendal_prime: you've been in this channel enough to know that
[09:35] <grendal_prime> ok
[09:35] <grendal_prime> what does long term support mean?
[09:35] <Calinou> it does not mean much to a lot of people, and "nothing" to some
[09:35] <ikonia> grendal_prime: exactly that, supported for a long term
[09:35] <ikonia> !lts | grendal_prime
[09:35] <grendal_prime> we will do this the hard way...the time intensive way.
[09:36] <ikonia> grendal_prime: we will do "nothing" - drop it
[09:36] <is2b007> Rory: Okay, thanks for the help I'll try get windows running on a seperate hdd in order to run the command
[09:36] <knifebunny> do people fight in this channel a lot of the time ?
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> vmuser: maybe ask in ##hardware if there's any known issue with speed of your grafix card?
[09:36] <ikonia> knifebunny: not really no, it's normally easy flowing
[09:36] <grendal_prime> why would something be supported for a longer time than other releases?
[09:37] <CPRdummy> knifebunny: nope
[09:37] <ikonia> grendal_prime: because it's designed to be maintained for longer and not dropped
[09:37] <Sir_Leto> Is there anyway to get HDMI audio working on a radeon 4670HD in Xubuntu/Ubuntu raring? (13.04)
[09:37] <ikonia> grendal_prime: check the URL on LTS for an overview
[09:37] <Sir_Leto> I know that drivers no longer work for things
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> !sound | Sir_Leto
[09:38] <grendal_prime> why the hostility about preference to LTAS
[09:38] <grendal_prime> LTS that is
[09:38] <ikonia> grendal_prime: there is no hostility to it, but blindly saying you should use it without checking requirements/needs is jus silly
[09:38] <Calinou> Sir_Leto, updating to 13.10 could work a bit better maybe, but you have to set "radeon.hdmi=1" as a kernel boot setting
[09:38] <grendal_prime> thats not what i said
[09:38] <Calinou> (I think)
[09:39] <ikonia> grendal_prime: as I said, it's not black and white "everyone use it!!!" it's look at the needs
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> grendal_prime: and other versions might work as good as lts also
[09:39] <ikonia>  < grendal_prime> always my advice to everyone is LTS
[09:39] <ikonia> grendal_prime: that is EXACTLY what you said
[09:39] <grendal_prime> advice
[09:39] <ikonia> grendal_prime: "everyone use LTS"
[09:39] <Sir_Leto> Calinou: How would I do this? And my card is set to be the default sound device.
[09:39] <ikonia> grendal_prime: it's good to use LTS release for lots of reasons, other times non-LTS maybe a better choice, it depends on the needs and wants of the user
[09:40] <Calinou> I'm not sure, I've never done it, but I think you should edit /etc/default grub, add "radeon.hdmi=1" then do "sudo update-grub2"
[09:40] <grendal_prime> when?
[09:40] <Calinou> that is, if you use the open source driver, not the proprietary one
[09:40] <Calinou> if you use the proprietary one then the story is very different
[09:40] <ikonia> grendal_prime: depends, listen to what the user wants/needs
[09:40] <Calinou> but the proprietary one normally doesn't work as of 12.10 on HD4000s
[09:40] <Sir_Leto> Calinou: I don't have any drivers installed
[09:40] <grendal_prime> your advice taken...you should also consider mine
[09:41] <Calinou> if you have anything drawn on your screen, you have a driver installed, Sir_Leto
[09:41] <ikonia> grendal_prime: no, because it's wrong
[09:41] <grendal_prime> done
[09:41] <ikonia> grendal_prime: "always LTS" is not good advice
[09:41] <Sir_Leto> Because of that reason. Then it's the default drivers
[09:41] <Calinou> you're just using the open source driver which is in the kernel :P
[09:41] <grendal_prime> i must have missed something...what was the problem exacly?
[09:42] <grendal_prime> ill hell the best i can
[09:42] <grendal_prime> help out that is.
[09:42] <ikonia> grendal_prime: ok, so you've just confirmed you had no idea what the problem was but just randomly told him to use LTS
[09:42] <grendal_prime> problem?
[09:42] <ikonia> grendal_prime: which goes back to what I was saying earlier about lisening to needs and wants and evaluating them for the situation
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> i sugested vmuser he could test lts just to see if his issue persists
[09:43] <grendal_prime> i want to make sure i didnt miss anything
[09:43] <grendal_prime> one thing i have learned...start from the beginning.
[09:43] <ikonia> grendal_prime: ok, so sit and watch the channel, and when you see something you feel you understand and have good advice for, jump in
[09:44] <vmuser> guys stop fighting or take it private
[09:44] <Sir_Leto> When trying to use aplay, I get ALSA lib pcm_pulse.c:750:(pulse_prepare) PulseAudio: Unable to create stream: Device or resource busy
[09:44] <ikonia> vmuser: no-one is fighting
[09:44] <Calinou> lotuspsychje, grendal_prime, that does not fix the issue
[09:44] <Calinou> people do not want to use a 1 to 1.5 year older version just because of some bug that can almost always be fixed
[09:44] <vmuser> ikonia, okay, having unproductive conversation
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> grendal_prime: ikonia is right about every version got its own features and lts is not always 'best' choice
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> this is not fighting but learning
[09:45] <grendal_prime> i came in late on the issue cause i was privet with an idividual who was lost cause nobody here realised that the prolem with there vpn was that they had a client issue not a server isue.
[09:45] <ikonia> vmuser: it's not unproductive, as he know understands how to help
[09:45] <grendal_prime> so sorry
[09:45] <ikonia> grendal_prime: not a problem.
[09:45] <alfonsojon> Hello
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> alfonsojon: welcome how can we help you?
[09:45] <alfonsojon> I'm currently doing OEM installations and I would like to know if there is a way to pre-install software from within the installer.
[09:46] <lotuspsychje> alfonsojon: unattended install?
[09:46] <alfonsojon> Yes
[09:46] <grendal_prime> what now was the problem related to release?
[09:46] <ikonia> grendal_prime: they are chatting about it, sit back and get the info as it comes in
[09:47] <alfonsojon> I would like to pull in the Chromium browser, codecs, and a few other packages during the install procedure
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> alfonsojon: maybe this can help: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> brb xchat lag
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> alfonsojon: you could also make a favorite packages bundle with aptoncd
[09:52] <ikonia> a meta package perhaps ?
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: how does that work?
[09:52] <alfonsojon> aptoncd is no fun. :)
[09:52] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: basically a virtual a package that pulls in a selection of physical packages
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: sounds nice
[09:53] <varunendra> alfonsojon, why so? (aptoncd is no fun)
[09:53] <alfonsojon> I don't see the point in using APTonCD if the packages are already available via the repos
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> alfonsojon: you want a fast way of installing your favorite packages right
[09:54] <alfonsojon> lotuspsychje: Well, not really fast, just streamlined.
[09:55] <alfonsojon> Speed isn't my priority, minimal interaction with the PC is
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> alfonsojon: this might be what ikonia sugested you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MetaPackages
[09:55] <Xeus> I figured it out, you were not very helpful. The 1023 blocks are between /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda5 and it was automatically grabbing that with the defaults. I realized my error was that I was not beginning my partition after /dev/sda5 and that is why it was only grabbing the 1023 blocks between the 2 partitions.
[09:56] <ikonia> Xeus: I told you this
[09:56] <ikonia> Xeus: I stated the extended partition
[09:56] <Xeus> ikonia: how does that have anything to do with the extended partition?
[09:56] <ikonia> Xeus: and I stated the free space you where using was between sda1 and 2 - which is why it was so small
[09:56] <Xeus> ikonia: okay you were right then, my apologies
[09:56] <ikonia> Xeus: because that is a fixed size as it contains partitions, so you'd need to make the start point AFTER it
[09:57] <Xeus> ikonia: and yes, I was definitely not paying attention
[09:57] <Xeus> ikonia: I also recall you saying the disk was fully allocated, which it was not
[09:57] <ikonia> Xeus: it was fully allocated
[09:57] <ikonia> Xeus: from an lvm point of view
[09:57] <Xeus> ikonia: how so?
[09:57] <ikonia> Xeus: thats why you needed new partition
[09:58] <Xeus> ikonia: you were being cryptic
[09:58] <Xeus> ikonia: you can't tell me that is something you don't know already though
[09:58] <ikonia> Xeus: not really, you just didn't seem to have a good grasp on how it works,  that's why I told you just to create a new disk to keep it simple
[09:58] <ikonia> Xeus: when I suggested this you got all upset, so it made no sense to continue
[09:58] <Xeus> ikonia: something tells me you have a habit of speaking cryptically
[09:58] <ikonia> Xeus: then you are wrong,
[09:59] <Fudus> Is anyone having problems with Firefox 26 on Youtube? It keeps on freezing. Chrome displays the same page without issue.
[09:59] <Xeus> ikonia: thanks for your help, it was helpful afterall
[09:59] <Xeus> ikonia: albeit very frustrating
[09:59] <Fudus> [13.04, 64, intel gm45 graphics]
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> Fudus: can you start firefox from terminal? see what error you get
[10:01] <Xeus> ikonia: FYI: I do have a grasp, it is just late and it escaped me -- that happens when I get in a hurry. I apologize for taking my frustrations out on you.
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> Fudus: you install flash and ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[10:02] <ikonia> Xeus: I'm sure you do have a grasp, as I said you "appeared" not to, that's why I suggested a new disk
[10:02] <Xeus> ikonia: thanks for that, really. :)
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> Xeus: you can checkout your hd with testdisk if you like
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | Xeus
[10:03] <Xeus> ikonia: when you get into a point in your career where you are only utilizing a small subset of your skills, the other skills you have tend to fade away
[10:03] <ikonia> lotuspsychje: he's fine, he's sorted now, testdisk wouldn't have done much on his situation
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> ok
[10:03] <ikonia> Xeus: understandable
[10:03] <Xeus> thanks lotuspsychje
[10:03] <Xeus> lotuspsychje: I was just having a major blonde moment
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Xeus
[10:04] <Xeus> lotuspsychje: it took ikonia to straighten me out (he used a beating stick)
[10:04] <Lanaii> Hallo
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> Lanaii: what can we do for you?
[10:05] <Lanaii> can you speak german?
[10:05] <Fudus> ** (firefox:16993): WARNING **: Error calling set_view_window method of Contextcontext: Timeout was reached
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> !at | Lanaii
[10:05] <Fudus> Trying to use the HTML5 player, so don't have flash installed for Firefox.
[10:06] <alfonsojon> Okay so I have the installer
[10:06] <alfonsojon> I found ubuntu.seed, can I change this to include packages I want?
[10:06] <alfonsojon> # Install the Ubuntu desktop.
[10:06] <alfonsojon> tasksel	tasksel/first	multiselect ubuntu-desktop
[10:06] <alfonsojon> i.e. tasksel tasksel/first multiselect ubuntu-desktop chromium-browser gimp gparted
[10:07] <Sir_Leto> Calinou: Okay, that fixed my audio, but I hear crackling while playing the audio, could it be a bad HDMI cable?
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> Fudus: try installing flash anyway, see if it fixes your issue
[10:07] <Calinou> could be a driver issue, the HDMI support isn't perfect
[10:08] <Calinou> the open source driver got tons of improvements recently, you could try upgrading to 13.10
[10:09] <alfonsojon> Anyone?
[10:10] <Sir_Leto> Calinou: apt-get dist-upgrade does nothing
[10:10] <bekks> Sir_Leto: then everything is up to date.
[10:10] <Sir_Leto> I'm on 13.04 though
[10:10] <bekks> And?
[10:11] <bekks> apt-get dist-upgrade will not update your release.
[10:11] <Sh1G3rU> setting -> software updater
[10:12] <bekks> Sir_Leto: If you want to get 13.10, you would have to use do-release-upgrade
[10:12] <Sir_Leto> thanks
[10:12] <bekks> Sir_Leto: And you would have to backup everything before.
[10:12] <alfonsojon> How can I edit the preseed to install some extra packages I want?
[10:15] <Sir_Leto> I haven't used Ubuntu for anything but a server in so long that I forgot how things work
[10:15] <Sir_Leto> lol
[10:15] <bekks> Sir_Leto: It works the same on servers.
[10:16] <Sir_Leto> I would leave my desktop on for weeks and run it as a minecraft server and not really do updates or anything
[10:16] <alfonsojon> My Minecraft server is an Ubuntu server.
[10:17] <alfonsojon> Hasn't rebooted in 58 days.
[10:17] <alfonsojon> No hiccups, it even has a website with the usual.
[10:21] <nixbox> hi all, I am installing Ubuntu 13.10 desktop, during the installation I want to just reduce the disk used by LVM, so for example instead of it using my whole SSD, I want it to use leave some space. How do I specify that? The "Advanced partition table" does not allow me to edit the LV size.
[10:23] <chobi> hey guys... i have a problem with the software-center. authentication fails. someone here who could help?
[10:24] <dheeraj_> Hi alll
[10:24] <bekks> chobi: You are entering the wrong password for your user.
[10:24] <dheeraj_> Hi alll
[10:25] <chobi> when ill do it in terminal sudo apt-get update it works fine
[10:25] <chobi> but with ubuntu software-center it says authentication failed
[10:25] <dheeraj_> I want to make  my document secure, i have a .tar
[10:25] <chobi> i also cannot mount any device
[10:25] <bekks> chobi: and you are entering the same password?
[10:25] <hax-> fa la la la la, la la la la
[10:26] <chobi> yes ;-)
[10:27] <chobi> in another board they checked group settings and some of my files but they seem correct
[10:27] <bekks> chobi: So which Ubuntu are you using?
[10:27] <john_minetest> dheeraj_: What do you mean with "secure"?
[10:28] <bekks> dheeraj_: Encrypt that .tar
[10:28] <dheeraj_> john_minetest: i want that it must be opened by me
[10:28] <chobi> ubuntu 13.10
[10:28] <dheeraj_> And not by any one else
[10:28] <hax-> hurrah finally got packetfence working :D
[10:28] <john_minetest> dheeraj_: Yeah, you have to encrypt it.
[10:28] <dheeraj_> john_minetest: how?
[10:29] <bekks> dheeraj_: By using "encrypt" e.g., or gpg, or truecrypt, etc.
[10:29] <dveim> hello
[10:30] <chobi> bekks - http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/update-manager-keine-berechtigung/
[10:30] <dveim> can i get some help?
[10:30] <chobi> das haben sie schon geprüft
[10:30] <varunendra> dheeraj_, archive formats like 7z and zip also offer the option to encrypt archives.
[10:30] <MonkeyDust> !gpg
[10:30] <bekks> chobi: For german support, please join #ubuuntu-de
[10:30] <dheeraj_> bekks: what are the steps?
[10:30] <john_minetest> dheeraj_: Just do "gpg -c filename" in the commandline and enter the desired password.
[10:31] <john_minetest> But don't forget it!
[10:31] <bekks> varunendra: The encryption of zip is known to be breakable very easy.
[10:31] <dheeraj_> john_minetest: ohkk
[10:31] <bekks> dheeraj_: Read the links given, first step :)
[10:31] <varunendra> bekks, yup, unless it is the latest version that offers AES 256
[10:31] <varunendra> :)
[10:31] <john_minetest> dheeraj_: You can un-encrypt the file with gpg filename after that.
[10:32] <john_minetest> "gpg filename"
[10:35] <Marflex07> ds
[10:35] <dveim> can i get some help?
[10:36] <aeon-ltd> dveim: just ask and wait for someone to answer
[10:37] <dveim> i tried to install Linux Mint like live dvd. Downloaded it from homepage, putted in laptop, rebooted and nothing happened. How can i check if i did everything right?
[10:37] <bekks> !mint | dveim
[10:38] <MonkeyDust> dveim  ask in the mint channel, it's not supported here
[10:38] <dheeraj_> Done :)
[10:39] <dveim> noone there ;(
[10:39] <mao_> dveim,  did you check you bios boot sequence ?
[10:39] <dveim> mao_: yes
[10:39] <bekks> dheeraj_: That doesnt make it supported in here ;)
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> bekks  cynic
[10:41] <dheeraj_> bekks: means?
[10:41] <SuperEngineer> dveim: as with any similar diatro.. [if you know where you installed it] run the distro live and install grub.  feel free how to install it in the mint channel as suggested ;)
[10:41] <bekks> MonkeyDust: it's just the truth :)
[10:42] <SuperEngineer> *distro
[10:42] <bekks> dheeraj_: It was a typo, my post should have been directed to dveim.
[10:42] <dheeraj_> What if i forget password
[10:43] <dveim> may the problem (unable to choose it in grub, see only already installed ubuntu) link to already installed grub?
[10:46] <skinkitten> hi everybody
[10:50] <john_minetest> dheeraj_: Then you will have no chance recovering your data.
[10:50] <john_minetest> dheeraj_: gpg's encryption is practically impossible to crack. If you lose the password you lose your data.
[10:53] <MonkeyDust> dheeraj_  linux security *can* turn against you
[10:58] <dheeraj_> john_minetest: ohkkk
[11:00] <dheeraj_> If i put a file on ubuntu one then will it be aviable to access on windows pc
[11:00] <dheeraj_> ?
[11:01] <aeon-ltd> no windows can not natively read ext4(ubuntu's default filesystem)
[11:01] <aeon-ltd> oh ubuntu one, misread sorry
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> dheeraj_  yes
[11:04] <dheeraj_> MonkeyDust: Okk
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> dheeraj_  on one.ubuntu.com
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> dheeraj_  https://one.ubuntu.com/downloads/windows/
[11:12] <bingo> hello. is there an easy way, perhaps by GUI, to change the boot splash screen to an image of my choice? Thank you
[11:12] <dveim> Another question. Everything on laptop is unnormally small. For example, i have to put 150% size to browse Wiki as usually. My videocard is Nvidia. Any suggestions?
[11:19] <asad2005> How do i enable sound theme, i have installed ubuntustudio-sound and selected it in ubuntu-tweak still no result i think
[11:20] <cosmic99> my live ubuntu failed to mount the windows's partition of my PC,what does that mean?
[11:21] <cosmic99> here is the error message   http://pastebin.com/YzadNJfz
[11:22] <randomcpp> what's the irc channel for u1 support?
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> randomcpp  #ubuntuone
[11:23] <randomcpp> thanks MonkeyDust
[11:30] <student> hi Sopheria
[11:31] <lakitu> how do i create a package download script in kubuntu 12
[11:32] <lakitu> i want to make a script to download gimp & all dependent .deb files, download them on this fedora computer, & then install them on the offline computer
[11:33]  * student slaps SleePy 
[11:36] <Guest16124> names
[11:36] <student> :-)
[11:36] <Guest16124> hi student
[11:36] <student> hi Guest16124
[11:36] <Guest16124> exit
[11:36] <Guest16124> exit
[11:38] <the_drow> Except build-essential, what header packages do you guys install when you get a fresh ubuntu machine?
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> the_drow  start from the beginning, what are you doing, what brings you here
[11:43] <the_drow> MonkeyDust: I'm setting up a general purpose development machine. I just need ideas.
[11:45] <the_drow> MonkeyDust: What are the most commonly installed header files and development libraries?
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> the_drow  no idea, i'm no developer
[11:53] <cfhowlett> the_drow, you might be interested in the Dell Sputnik Developer ISO; I added the listed packages to my vanilla ubuntu
[11:55] <the_drow> cfhowlett: Got a link?
[11:57] <cfhowlett> the_drow, wait one: slow connection here in china
[11:58] <cfhowlett> the_drow, one of these will take you to the ISO package listing: hwe.ubuntu.com/uds-q/dellxps/
[11:58] <cfhowlett> www.dell.com/learn/us/en/555/campaigns/xps-linux-laptop?c=us&l=en&s=biz
[11:58] <cfhowlett> en.community.dell.com/techcenter/os-applications/w/wiki/3685.dell-xps-13-laptop-developer-edition-a-client-to-cloud-solution-project-sputnik.aspx
[11:58] <Guest89818> hi poeple
[11:59] <the_drow> cfhowlett: Cool. Thanks
[12:00] <benbb> Hey guest89818. Change your nick ;)
[12:00] <Guest89818> is it possible to boot into chroot?
[12:01] <bekks> Guest89818: no.
[12:02] <bekks> Guest89818: Keep it in the channel please.
[12:02] <Guest89818> ok
[12:02] <Guest89818> i'm new to IRC chat
[12:03] <Guest89818> why is not possible to boot into chroot?
[12:04] <bekks> Guest89818: because it's just not possible?
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> Guest89818  here's why http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/85714/boot-into-a-chroot
[12:05] <Guest89818> thanks MonkeyDust i'll take a look at it
[12:06] <Guest89818> so is it possible?
[12:06] <bekks> No.
[12:07] <bekks> Guest89818: Just read the link given.
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> Guest89818  what part of "no" don't you understand?
[12:13] <Guest89818> in this link a guy almost did it http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/43283/boot-into-chroot-directory-leaves-the-root-partition-read-only
[12:13] <lakitu> i'm trying to navigate downloading a gimp deb & dependencies for my offline ubuntu comp, on a fedora
[12:13] <lakitu> any help?
[12:14] <MonkeyDust> lakitu  why are you asking here?
[12:14] <lakitu> #fedora sent me here
[12:14] <lakitu> said to get a download script
[12:15] <lakitu> it's a kubuntu - 12 i think
[12:15] <bekks> lakitu: you have to know for sure.
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> lakitu  i guess fedora can't handle .deb, as it's redhat based
[12:16] <lakitu> bekks: how to tell
[12:16] <lakitu> MonkeyDust: so i can't download deb files via fedora?
[12:16] <lakitu> or what do you mean can't handle
[12:16] <knightshade> Hello
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> Lakitu: yes. Its just a file
[12:16] <lakitu> ActionParsnip: yes what - i can't download deb files in fedora???
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> Lakitu: you just wont be able to install it in fedora
[12:16] <lakitu> right
[12:16] <lakitu> i want to install it to a offline kubuntu comp
[12:17] <knightshade> lakitu: cat /etc/issue
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> Lakitu: you can download deb files in fedora, yes. Why would you not?
[12:17] <lakitu> Ubuntu 12.04
[12:17] <lakitu> ActionParsnip: misunderstanding
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> Lakitu: its like asking "can I download png files in fedora". Just because your OS cannot instal the application doesnt mean you cannot download the files
[12:18] <lakitu> so how do i best get gimp on my kubuntu 12.04 without connecting it
[12:18] <lakitu> ActionParsnip: that was my take, he put it in such a way it was hard to tell
[12:18] <ikonia> lakitu: burn the install DVD for your version, that way it will have everything you will probably ever need
[12:18] <ikonia> lakitu: you can use that install DVD as a repo
[12:19] <lakitu> easily?
[12:19] <ikonia> lakitu: you'll find that the best way to use your machine offline if you are notconfident
[12:19] <lakitu> ok
[12:19] <ikonia> lakitu: yes, burn DVD, put into drive, enable it in software sources
[12:19] <lakitu> i'm not exactly not confident, but just want easiest way
[12:19] <lakitu> gui is nice
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> Is Gimp on the DVD media?
[12:19] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: I believe so
[12:19] <lakitu> surprised it didn't install
[12:19] <ikonia> !info gimp
[12:19] <lakitu> what is saucy?
[12:19] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: it's in main so should be
[12:19] <ikonia> lakitu: a release
[12:20] <lakitu> i know - what does it mean
[12:20] <lakitu> wheezy, etc
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> Lakitu: codename of ubuntu 12.10
[12:20] <lakitu> oh
[12:20] <lakitu> nevermind
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> Sorry 13.10
[12:20] <lakitu> ok
[12:20] <lakitu> use the dvd
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> Ikonia: thanks
[12:20] <lakitu> thanks ikonia =P
[12:21] <lakitu> lakitu, say something! "something"
[12:21] <lakitu> ok - be back
[12:21] <__kimiamania__> Wheezy is debian
[12:21] <ikonia> no it's not
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> #semantics
[12:23] <lakitu> does a package manager search 'offline' discs, if they've been added?
[12:23] <lakitu> just 'insert disc whatever'?
[12:23] <ikonia> lakitu: yes
[12:23] <lakitu> cool
[12:23] <lakitu> smart
[12:23] <Guest89818> here is a script to boot into subdirectory, so it' seems to be possible; https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=932362#p932362
[12:26] <bekks> Guest89818: That not booting into a chroot, but booting into a subdirectory. The first isnt possible, the latter is.
[12:26] <_Hassen_> umm..I wonder if a 35 gb of HDD space is enough for a daily use of ubuntu
[12:26] <ikonia> _Hassen_: only you will tell
[12:27] <_Hassen_> ikonia, the thing is just i'm about to install ubuntu next to my win7
[12:27] <_Hassen_> just sorting partitions now
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> _Hassen_: my / partiton is 4.4Gb used
[12:27] <cfhowlett> _Hassen_, *should* be but depends on your data storage.   I've got full on ubuntu studio + the dell sputnik developer packages.  /filesystem takes 11 gigs.  /home is over 200
[12:28] <Guest89818> what is the difference? I can also install kernel into chroot
[12:28] <_Hassen_> I often edit videos/photos and code/learn softwares
[12:28] <_Hassen_> as well as downloading softwares
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> 8.2GB used  in / here
[12:28] <bekks> Guest89818: A subdirectory has nothing to do with a chroot, the content inside the subdirectory is not chrooted.
[12:28] <_Hassen_> MonkeyDust, from what total size?
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> _Hassen_  15, but i have a separate /home
[12:29] <cfhowlett> _Hassen_, the videos will eat up lots of space.
[12:29] <bekks> Guest89818: thats even said in the post.
[12:30] <_Hassen_> mmmm...
[12:30] <cfhowlett> _Hassen_, but sounds like we have similar interests.  Suggest you peek at #ubuntustudio and the Dell Sputnik Developer ISO
[12:31] <_Hassen_> cfhowlett, what is  Dell Sputnik Developer ISO ?
[12:31] <cfhowlett> _Hassen_, hwe.ubuntu.com/uds-q/dellxps/
[12:33] <_Hassen_> cfhowlett, i see,checking
[12:33] <Guest89818> i really don't understand why it is not possible, how about this? http://superuser.com/questions/384437/booting-linux-system-from-chroot-is-there-a-better-way-to-do-this
[12:43] <hax-> Guest89818
[12:43] <hax-> still there?
[12:49] <hax-> Guest89818: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[12:51] <jose__> hola
[12:51] <jose__> hola
[12:52] <jose__> help please
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> jose__: what is the issue
[12:53] <cfhowlett> jose__, state the issue.  telepaths have a holiday
[12:53] <Ben64> jose__: how can anyone help you if you don't specify what you need help with?
[12:53] <jose__> in spanish?
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> !es
[12:53] <Ben64> english only in this channel
[12:54] <cfhowlett> jose__, in english here or en espanol on #ubuntu-es
[12:54] <jose__> gracias
[12:54] <jose__>  sorry, thank
[12:54] <cfhowlett> jose__, no worries
[12:56] <jose__> who instaler drivers old card wireless inprocomm 2220
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> Jose__: what wifi chip does it use?
[13:08] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: hello mate
[13:09] <BluesKaj> hi lotuspsychje
[13:13] <tairesh> hi
[13:13] <LvMises> Hola
[13:13] <cfhowlett> LvMises, greetings
[13:37] <toxic_> Hello everyone, I'm looking for a way to have a cgi script executed before apache continues handeling the http request. It's lika auth_external only simpler if possible ;) Any insights ?
[13:41] <TJ-> Using 13.04, multiple X screens (3), the Unity dash and indicator panels are missing... where should I start looking for clues?
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> Tj: is the launcher panel present?
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> Tj: did you try reloading Compiz
[13:44] <TJ-> ActionParsnip: No panels whatever; compiz is running though
[13:44] <Deviad> Hello, does anyone have any experience with pure-ftpd?
[13:44] <Deviad> I have this error: 421 Home directory not available - aborting
[13:45] <Deviad> when I try to connect with my client
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> Tj: press ALT+F2 and run: compiz --replace
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> Deviad: does the user you are connecting as have a home folder defined and present?
[13:46] <linuxearth> hello everyone
[13:46] <linuxearth> ubuntu is nice i beleive
[13:46] <ehnde> i have a fakeraid volume that worked fine in fedora, but ubuntu doesn't see it. is there anything i can do to check support for that? or do i have to go to mdadm?
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> Deviad: have you considered sftp instead of unsecure and wasteful ftp?
[13:46] <nuern> could anyone help me runing starcraft2 on laptop with optimus technology bumblebee instaled and apears to be working
[13:47] <Deviad> pure-pw useradd theusername -u theusername -d /var/www
[13:47] <Deviad> I need this to upload wordpress, change stylesheets, etc.
[13:48] <Deviad> I have a cloud vps with ssh but I had to install ftp for these things.
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> Nuern: is it in wine or a native application?
[13:48] <Deviad> I did not want to use root for security reasons.
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> Deviad: if you can ssh to a server then you also have an sftp server by default.
[13:49] <nuern> ActionParsnip, hmm in wine and in playonlinux
[13:49] <Deviad> yes, but I have no client to handle this. :(
[13:49] <Deviad> I am using putty
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> Deviad: winscp, scp, nautilus
[13:49] <Deviad> any gui like filezilla?
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> Deviad: filezilla also
[13:52] <Deviad> ActionParsnip, Thank you. It worked.
[13:52] <Deviad> I uninstalled pure-ftpd as it´s useless. :)
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> Deviad: ftp is ancient, unsecure and wasteful. Let it die
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> Nuem: you will need: optirun wine /path/to/application.exe
[13:53] <lokowes> iniciante2013
[13:55] <lokowes> someone help me with metasploit?
[13:56] <lokowes> exit
[13:59] <anis> haloo
[14:00] <TJ-> ActionParsnip: I'd tried "compiz --replace" with no success. I've just run CCSM and had to re-enable the OpenGL, Unity and other dependency plug-ins to get the panels back
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> Tj: is it persistant after a reboot?
[14:02] <TJ-> Next issue: How to get a Unity or Gnome session on X screens 1 and 2 (currently just got a white background and the X-org X cursor, although a context-click brings up a menu
[14:02] <Deviad> I just created a script to add the directories, but I have:
[14:02] <Deviad> -bash: ./crea_cartella_dominio: /bin/bash^M: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
[14:02] <Deviad> I thought it was the encoding so I made sure I used UTF-8, but it does not work anyways
[14:02] <TJ-> ActionParsnip: I don't know, yet! I'll get to that later. For now I'm trying to get Ubuntu to play nicely again with dual Nvidia GPUs and 4 monitors, across 3 X screens
[14:02] <Deviad> I do not understand why I get that ^M in the end after bash
[14:04] <TJ-> Deviad: "^M" is indicating a control code, in this case, the line-ending. Did you edit the file using a Windows or Mac OS by chance?
[14:04] <Deviad> Windows
[14:04] <Deviad> I used sublimetext
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> Tj: could try XFCE or KDE to see if it is friendlier
[14:04] <Deviad> Sublime Text 3
[14:06] <is2b007> can someone help, when I try to launch something using gksudo. it says unable to copy the user's Xauthorisation file
[14:07] <TJ-> ActionParsnip: I'm trying to figure out how to configure the X server to run different managers on the different X screens (I've got an external Vidock connected to the laptop ExpressCard port) and will - eventually - have 6 monitors connected, but working with 4 right now)
[14:07] <nuern>  anyone could help runing starcraft2 on wine on laptop with optimus technology bumblebee instaled and apears to be working unable to run starcraft2 with optirun
[14:08] <Deviad> TJ-, any idea?
[14:08] <Guest67026> have some brasilian here?
[14:08] <TJ-> !dos2unix >Deviad
[14:09] <TJ-> !br Guest67026
[14:10] <Right-On> hello, im ubuntu noob, i cant get sound working or wine installed, can someone please help me ?
[14:10] <osubuntu^ubuntu> Doesn't wine play sound
[14:10] <apm1> what are the chances the EFI on my macbookpros will be messed up by GRUB-efi ?
[14:10] <Guest67026> !br
[14:10] <apm1> i realise its a meta question
[14:10] <cfhowlett> Right-On, one issue at a time.  What errors do you get installing wine
[14:10] <osubuntu^ubuntu> apm1, It breaks the bootcamp
[14:11] <Guest67026> TJ- :*
[14:11] <Right-On> it said it installed, but then i got soem microsft liecense agrrement and i couldnt click ok to it
[14:12] <osubuntu^ubuntu> Right-On, you're using Windows alongside Ubuntu?
[14:12] <Right-On> yes
[14:12] <cfhowlett> Right-On, wubi.... bad idea.  BAD.
[14:13] <Right-On> why bad
[14:13] <cfhowlett> Right-On, wubi is a TESTING environment for ubuntu - and may not even be supported anymore.  If you want to test, install virtualbox to windows and put ubuntu there.
[14:13] <nuern> can anyone help me with runing starcraft2 on optimus technology laptop bumblebee installed and working unable to run starcraft2
[14:13] <osubuntu^ubuntu> Right-On, Wubi doesnt support many of features and disables hibernation or such.
[14:13] <cfhowlett> Right-On, wubi is NOT a long-term installation solution
[14:13] <osubuntu^ubuntu> Right-On, You should install it by live usb or cd
[14:13] <Right-On> would it be3 easier to just use ubuntu and ditch windows ?
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> Right-On  wubi is a windows application, it's not a real installation
[14:14] <nuern> it depends whatu need it for :)
[14:14] <Right-On> i ised usb
[14:14] <cfhowlett> Right-On, easier yes.  necessary?  not for me to say.  but you COULD dual boot.
[14:14] <osubuntu^ubuntu> Right-On, you can just partition the drive to install Ubuntu alongside Windows
[14:14] <Right-On> used
[14:14] <cfhowlett> !dual|Right-On,
[14:14] <cfhowlett> !dualboot
[14:14] <osubuntu^ubuntu> !dual | Right-On
[14:15] <Right-On> ok, i'll give that whirl thx
[14:17] <nuern> can anyone help me with runing starcraft2 on optimus technology laptop bumblebee installed and working unable to run starcraft2
[14:17] <osubuntu^ubuntu> Welcome to #ubuntu channel! This is official ubuntu support channel. Try reading IRC Guidelines.
[14:17] <cfhowlett> !patience|nuern
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> Nuern: did you try optirun as I advised?
[14:18] <apm1> nuern, did you follow the instructions on the winedb page for SC2 ?
[14:18] <mgsk> Does anyone else notice a delay after hitting enter to launch an application from the overview?
[14:19] <apm1> ActionParsnip, its "optirun wine <binary.exe.>" aye ?
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> Apm1: yes, does it help?
[14:19] <nuern> apm1, the problem is that i managed to run it but without use of graphic card
[14:19] <nuern> its optimus technology
[14:19] <apm1> ActionParsnip, yes it does
[14:19] <nuern> ActionParsnip, yes its the same as optirun
[14:20] <arubi> anyone downloaded and installed ubuntu server 12.04 32bit lately?
[14:20] <MonkeyDust> graphics without a graphic card?
[14:20] <nuern> u have 2
[14:20] <nuern> intel and nvidia
[14:20] <nuern> bumblebee switches betwen them
[14:20] <apm1> nuern, run this in the terminal "optirun wine <bianry's path>
[14:20] <arubi> tried two different comps, two different internet connections, the md5 is right, yet there are corrupt files
[14:21] <apm1> its called bad luck
[14:21] <arubi> apm1, my luck?
[14:21] <apm1> no cure we know of it , frankly we can't teach you how to pull the ISOs
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> Arubi: use torrents, the protocol adds error checking
[14:21] <arubi> ActionParsnip, will do.
[14:22] <cfhowlett> arubi, actually, I'd question this.  If you've verified md5sum and they're good, what do you meant "corrupt"?
[14:22] <Mississauga> I being out of the software field for a decade, back then lots of apps for UNIX based systems were written in Perl and mySQL. I was looking at the perl script sites and they seem dead, Perl seems a dying language. So what language are they mostly written in nowadays?
[14:22] <cfhowlett> Mississauga, python
[14:22] <arubi> during the install, i get a "integrity test failed" cfhowlett
[14:23] <arubi> tried two different usb sticks, tried with unetbootin, tried dd
[14:23] <arubi> the md5 sums of the iso are correct every time
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> Mississauga: perl is alive and well
[14:23] <TJ-> arubi: Sounds like a USB port problem... can you connect the USB device to a different bus/port on the PC?
[14:24] <arubi> TJ-, i tried two sticks, with two different comps
[14:24] <Deviad> I need to create 100 MySQL databases, is there a script for this?
[14:24] <cfhowlett> arubi, so you're getting error messages?  USB port issues?  test the iso in virtualbox?
[14:24] <nuern> apm1, and not runing
[14:24] <TJ-> arubi: sometimes under-powered hubs (even internal ones) can cause spurious data glitches especially on bulk writes to storage devices
[14:24] <arubi> Tried verifying files on two different comps as well
[14:24] <arubi> no hubs, straight to the mobo
[14:24] <TJ-> arubi: That is weird then!
[14:24] <apm1> nuern, no idea what you could do then sorry
[14:25] <arubi> Can anyone download the iso and verify? it takes about 10 - 15 mins for the whole process
[14:25] <nuern> apm1, no problem
[14:25] <TJ-> arubi: Is the device you're installing to, one of the devices you used to download/write the ISO images ?
[14:25] <MonkeyDust> arubi  server, you say? there's also #ubuntu-server
[14:26] <TJ-> arubi: I'm wondering if the installation PC has memory parity errors
[14:26] <arubi> TJ-, no. installing from usb to hjd
[14:26] <arubi> ran memtest86+
[14:26] <arubi> all is fine
[14:26] <cfhowlett> arubi, torrent is definitely the way to go
[14:26] <arubi> HD SMART reports 100% health, but that doesn't mean anything since install hasn't started yet
[14:26] <TJ-> arubi: And the integrity test fails checking the installation media?
[14:26] <arubi> torrent should be done in a few minutes
[14:27] <nuern> ActionParsnip, hmm dont know when i run wine <executable> it works when i run it with optirun  wine <executable> it crushes
[14:27] <arubi> i'll try #ubuntu-server if this doesn't work. Thanks for all the input guys
[14:27] <nuern> ActionParsnip, even if i use <optirun bash then wine
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> Nuern: not sure. I think optimus is a nasty hack and is to be avoided
[14:27] <grahamsavage> hey.. i have a vm and disk IO is awful.. like really really slow
[14:28] <nuern> ActionParsnip, ;)
[14:28] <TJ-> arubi: have you run a md5sum against the contents of the USB storage device itself? That should match the ISO md5sum. It'll take a while over USB2, but about the only thing left you've not checked.
[14:28] <grahamsavage> but the metrics i'm getting back say only 37.6% utilization
[14:28] <arubi> I haven't actually TJ-
[14:28] <grahamsavage> is there a command i can run to get some useful indiciation of IO performance
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> grahamsavage: what OS is the host and guest?
[14:28] <apm1> grahamsavage, vt-x enabled in the bios ?
[14:28] <MonkeyDust> grahamsavage  vmware or virtualbox? linux vm or windows vm?
[14:28] <TJ-> arubi: Give it a shot... because you've done everything else we'd recommend!
[14:28] <arubi> How do I get md5sum to run over the whole stick?
[14:28] <grahamsavage> note IOtop: shows that i'm writing between  0 and 500kbs
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> grahamsavage: what virtualization technology are you using?
[14:29] <grahamsavage> but it doesn't show me that the IO is incredibly slow
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> grahamsavage  take your eyes off your keyboard and read the question on the screen
[14:29] <TJ-> arubi:  something like "sudo dd if=/dev/sdX bs=1M | md5sum"
[14:30] <arubi> Alrihgt TJ-, running it now
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> grahamsavage: thebquestions arent tricky......
[14:31] <Agent86> i'm screwed
[14:31] <TJ-> Now, how do *I* get input focus onto to multiple X screens (3 X screens, can run applications on them using e.g. "DISPLAY=:0.2 firefox&", they respond to mouse but keyboard input does not switch to them) ?
[14:33] <cfhowlett> Agent86, cryptic
[14:33] <xubz> I need some help configuring a live USB of Ubuntu 12.04
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> Agent86  how can we help you?
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> !usb | xubz
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> Xubz: configuring in what way?
[14:33] <Agent86> sorry wrong channel I'm workin on python code, sorry about that.
[14:34] <xubz> I configured my USB drive using a tool name Universal USB Installer v 1.9.5
[14:34] <Agent86> I'm guessing you mean a live OS of ubuntu on flash or USB, that is done easily in the dash panel there is a feature for startup,
[14:35] <TJ-> How do I install the KDE desktop as an alternative, is it "apt-get install kde-desktop" ?
[14:35] <xubz> Configure as in creating a live Ubuntu USB drive
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> TJ-  kubuntu-desktop, or plasma
[14:35] <xubz> Sure, Live OS, if that's what you prefer
[14:35] <Agent86> ok, 12.04 if you still have unity on that version then hit the super key to bring up the dash and search startup
[14:35] <TJ-> MonkeyDust: Ahhh, of course! Here's hopinh KDE can handle the multiple X screens :)
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> Kj: i believe plasma-desktop does it, or you can install the full kubuntu with kubuntu-desktop
[14:36] <xubz> So, I configured it all well and good using the free windows tool
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> Xubz: so, where is the issue?
[14:36] <Agent86> there is a startup disk creator to make your live usb, however make sure you have a download of the iso from the ubuntu site that you want to use for the live cd
[14:36] <Agent86> i actually turned my phone into a live cd so I can diag peoples crap if their drive fails or they need to retreive data off their windows drive because their drive is failing etc.
[14:37] <xubz> But then I ran an MD5 check on the configured USB drive, and it showed me an error suggesting the "casper/filesystem.squashfs" might have been copied incorrectly
[14:37] <Agent86> plug in the phone and BOOM ubuntu boots up to live usb OS on my smart phone as usb device lol
[14:38] <Agent86> don't install the iso on the usb drive put the iso on the computer then check it first
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> Xubz: did you MD5 test the ISO you put on the USB?
[14:38] <xubz> I thought the tool must be copying it wrong, so I copied the "casper/filesystem.squashfs" file using xcopy on Windows and passed the "-V" switch to make sure that everything is copying fine
[14:38] <Agent86> then let the ubuntu startup creator install the iso , and be sure to erase the drive to let ubuntu format it properly cause some formated drives won't work
[14:39] <xubz> It copied without giving any error, ran the MD5 scan again, and still the same error suggesting "casper/filesystem.squashfs" has copied incorrectl
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> Xubz: once you verified the ISO boot to unetbootin and point it to the ISO
[14:40] <xubz> I did the MD5 test on the ISO, and it's correct
[14:40] <xubz> d1c5676ae7ac98e8b19f63565905105e3c4c37a2 *ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> xubz: ok then use unetbootin
[14:40] <xubz> The ISO completely matches this SHA1 signature
[14:41] <xubz> What is unetbootin?
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> Xubz: why not use the web to find out.....
[14:41] <imghost> !unetbootin
[14:41] <xubz> Okay
[14:41] <xubz> ubottu, I've already read that
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> Xubz: did you format the partition you are putting on to FAT32
[14:43] <xubz> I am able to boot after 4-5 retries, but almost always, when inside the Ubuntu OS, the software reports bizzare errors
[14:43] <xubz> Yes, it's FAT32
[14:44] <shagelito> Greetings #ubuntu. I juste came from #debian chanel, and i just learned that despite i downloaded the debian image on the website, having check the sum5, i'm actually running a Ubuntu machine. I'm looking to understand what went wrong, as i think im good for a full reinstall. Thanks.
[14:44] <Nika1> where I could find skype? :(
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> xubz  ubuntu on fat32?
[14:44] <xubz> If someone could suggest me how to copy the "filesystem.squashfs" 100% error free
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> Nika1  skype.com
[14:44] <xubz> So far, I've tried, normal windows copy, Teracopy
 I must download it from website?
[14:45] <xubz> Yes, the USB drive is FAT32 onto which the Live USB of Ubuntu is configured
[14:45] <cfhowlett> !skype|Nika1,
[14:45] <cfhowlett> Nika1, skype.com
[14:45] <arubi> TJ-, if you're here, I tried md5sum on the usb drive but dd sent 8gb worth of stuff into md5sum
[14:46] <shagelito> if im in the wrong chan, please be kind enough to lead me o the right one)
[14:46] <Nika1> tnx :))
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> shagelito  what's your issue?
[14:47] <Ploppz> how do I update the repos?
[14:47] <MonkeyDust> Ploppz  sudo apt-get update -- or waht do you mean?
[14:48] <xubz> "K:\casper>xcopy "L:\casper\filesystem.squashfs" "filesystem.squashfs" /V /Y /J "L:\casper\filesystem.squashfs"" - The xcopy command line I used to copy filesystem.squashfs
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> Xubz: id delete the current partitions on the USB and start from scratch. Do a long format to FAT32
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> Ploppz: how do you mean?
[14:48] <Ploppz> I think that's what I mean
[14:48] <Ploppz> thanks
[14:48]  * cfhowlett installed debian and running ubuntu?  
[14:48] <shagelito> well i letf w8 for less than a month. I choosed to instal debian on my hard drive in dual boot. Installed the image downloaded from the official debian website. Today, i tryed to resolve broken lib dependency. I asked for help in #debain, and i learned that i asnt runing a deian machine, but a ubuntu one. So i switched to the right chanel and here i am ! Just would like to get some help to know what went wrong
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> Ploppz: sudo apt-get update ,updates your system's knowledge of available packages and their versions
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> shagelito  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[14:49] <Ploppz> Yeah. Didn't work though >_>
[14:49] <xtriz> i have image of my / and /home partition, how can i get it working in the new HD ?
[14:49] <shagelito> cfhowlett: exactly
[14:49] <Ploppz> Failed to fetch, something wicked happening etc.
[14:50] <Ploppz> Something wicked happened resolving 'packages.medibuntu.org:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> Ploppz  medibuntu non longer exists
[14:50] <shagelito> well thats weird as i just added some kali repo. your command returned me this : Kali GNU/Linux 1.0 \n \l
[14:50] <Ploppz> Well, the thing is that I have virtual box 1 and the newest is 4, yet the system tells me I have the newest version
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> shagelito  that's not ubuntu and not debian, it's kali
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> !medibuntu | Ploppz
[14:51] <shagelito> i felt this could be a bad idea. Dumb me.
[14:51] <Ploppz> Uh, okay
[14:51] <shagelito> somehow i cant lol.
[14:51] <Ploppz> *_*
[14:51] <xubz> What's the filename of the file that Ubuntu uses to store persistent data on the Live OS drive?
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> Ploppz: choose a nice ubuntu version from topic to install mate
[14:52] <Ploppz> Yeah, gonna remove this oold distro..
[14:53] <shagelito> MonkeyDust: but, as i didnt performed such install. Can you tell me why the hell i am running this distro ?
[14:53] <MonkeyDust> shagelito  no, my advice: backup personal / important files and install the distro of your choice
[14:54] <shagelito> MonkeyDust: sure ill do this. But do you have an idea of what could have generate the problem ?
[14:54] <shagelito> MonkeyDust: as i only add the repo on my source list
[14:55] <shagelito> MonkeyDust: no way to switch back, just like it did from Debian to Kali ?
[14:55] <rigo88> hi. if there is only /dev/xyz in fstab and no hardware-id i can simply copy the whole drive with dd to another drive (clone) and it will work right?
[14:55] <varunendra> xubz, casper-rw and/or home-rw
[14:55] <yokohama> Hello, for the mygica atv 1200 there is available a linux distribution but do not know if this is a typical linux distribution of desktop computer, is it or is otherwise distinct or new ?
[14:56] <xubz> Thanks
[14:56] <shagelito> MonkeyDust: the thing is that im going to lost a lot of time. this cant happen twice ! I would be able to sleep like i should if i only can know what went wrong
[14:56] <cfhowlett> yokohama, the NAME Of the distro would help here ....
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> shagelito: we cant support neither debian or kali here
[14:56] <yokohama> Firmwares Oficiales Linux Android ATV1200/520/400 Ver: 20130805 Tamaño:292MB Fecha versión:05/08/2013 Info: VOLVER de linux Android
[14:56] <Miron> lotuspsychje, rude
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> !kali | shagelito
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> shagelito  more advice: create a separate /home partiton, it saves a lot of time when (re)installing
[14:57] <cfhowlett> yokohama, android is not ubuntu.  ask over in #android
[14:57] <cfhowlett> shagelito, this ^^^^^^^^^
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> Miron: why is that?
[14:57] <Miron> lol
[14:57] <yokohama> Official Firmwares Linux Android ATV1200/520/400 See: 20130805 Size:292MB version Date:05/08/2013 Info: RETURN of linux Android
[14:57] <shagelito> i'll do so -_-
[14:58] <cfhowlett> yokohama, it is NOT ubuntu so not supported here.  see the #android channel for help
[14:58] <shagelito> somehow i feel like i was raped
[14:58] <shagelito> okay thanks for your help anyway !
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> shagelito: just start a new ubuntu life, you will be pleased
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> !ubuntu | shagelito
[14:59] <yokohama> olk but why this device has a firmware for linux ?
[14:59] <cfhowlett> yokohama, many many MANY devices have firmware for linux.  doesn't mean they're running a linux distro.
[14:59] <shagelito> lotuspsychje: if its suitable for JAVA developpment, why not !
[15:00] <lotuspsychje> shagelito: i think this channel might help you on java dev for ubuntu also
[15:01] <shagelito> lotuspsychje: great then, im taking a closer look on what Internet think of it right now
[15:02] <yokohama> i have readed that this device had support for install a distro of ubuntu , is there o not there that distro of ubuntu for this hardware???
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> shagelito: maybe here: http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/programming-languages/java/
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> yokohama: best way is to actually install ubuntu, and see if it works
[15:03] <LvMises> So, Ubuntu just crashed
[15:03] <LvMises> Screen went black, everything rebooted.
[15:03] <yokohama> is there a distro of ubuntu for arm process of core double ???
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> !details | LvMises
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> !arm | yokohama
[15:03] <xubz> Where is home-rw located?
[15:04] <LvMises> Is there any way to view a crash report in 12.04?
[15:04] <cfhowlett> !arm
[15:04] <cfhowlett> !touch
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> LvMises: you can browse the /var/log/syslog
[15:07] <LvMises> Ok. I have it open via Log Viewer.
[15:25] <nikolaaa1> HI
[15:25] <nikolaaa1> I need help, Virtualbox is really slow.
[15:25] <nikolaaa1> Is there a way to speed it up?
[15:25] <nikolaaa1> Virtualbox is really slow, is there a way to speed it up?
[15:26] <MonkeyDust> virtualbox's "VBoxSDL" is awesome, more than ever, Windows is not more than a "tool" I'm using
[15:26] <nikolaaa1> what.
[15:26] <nikolaaa1> Virtualbox is slow.
[15:26] <nikolaaa1> It's lagging.
[15:26] <nikolaaa1> I have Intel core i3
[15:26] <nikolaaa1> Is there a way i can speed it up?
[15:43] <MerteToi> dooooooh....nothing is working on ubuntu live
[15:43] <MerteToi> can't even browsethe PC files
[15:44] <MerteToi> only IRC chat though
[15:44] <nashant> Hey guys. Anyone got any experience with virtualbox?
[15:44] <MerteToi> nashant: what
[15:45] <nashant> The bloody thing won't change from resolution of 1024x768
[15:45] <Andy__> Hey guys
[15:45] <Andy__> I'm getting a very annoying error
[15:46] <Andy__>  apache2: Syntax error on line 237 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default: No such file or directory Action 'configtest' failed. The Apache error log may have more information.    ...fail!
[15:46] <MerteToi> nashant: what OS in the vbox?
[15:46] <Andy__> It is Ubunti 14
[15:46] <MerteToi> 14 out?
[15:46] <nashant> MerteToi: Windows 7
[15:46] <Andy__> Ubuntu Linux 12.04.2
[15:46] <Andy__> Sorry my bad
[15:47] <MerteToi> nashant: check the ein7 resolution settings
[15:47] <MerteToi> in win7
[15:47] <Andy__> I'm new to Ubuntu, I'm not sure how
[15:47] <Andy__> the issue I think is something with broken symlinks
[15:47] <nashant> MerteToi: Yeah, it won't show anything over 1024x768
[15:48] <MerteToi> nashant: and what4s the max settings your screen offer?
[15:48] <MerteToi> *what's*
[15:48] <Andy__> http://gyazo.com/e90fcc1da4c9578146addceaee9007cd
[15:48] <nashant> MerteToi: Huh, weird. It's suddenly started working!
[15:48] <MerteToi> nashant: what happened exactly?
[15:50] <nashant> MerteToi: It suddenly, after ages of trying, started dynamic resolution
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> nashant  that's how good we are: simply entering the channel solves your problem
[15:51] <onetinsoldier> those gremlins simply can't stand #ubuntu, lol
[15:51] <imghost> lol
[15:51] <MerteToi> nashant: whatever..glad tohear
[15:52] <nashant> MonkeyDust: It's not the first time it's happened
[15:52] <asad2005> Can someone help me in this sound issue, before i fresh install when i press arrow keys in liferea rss it gives an error sound where can i set this?
[15:53] <nashant> Now if I can just find out how to hide join/part notifications in xchat
[15:54] <nashant> got it
[15:54] <[Gentoo]> nashant: you
[15:54] <nashant> excellent!
[15:54] <nashant> all is well
[15:54] <nashant> me?
[15:54] <[Gentoo]> nm
[15:54] <[Gentoo]> i was gona tell you how
[15:54] <nashant> Not me, you!
[15:54] <[Gentoo]> no, you
[15:55] <[Gentoo]> :)
[15:55] <asad2005> i mean when there is no more items to display
[15:57] <glitsj16> asad2005: you can configure alert sounds through the sound settings (Alert sounds tab)
[15:58] <krizoek> is there a simpler system log viewer somewhere? or a alternative (except text browsing through the logs)?
[15:58] <glitsj16> asad2005: sorry, the tab is called 'Sound effects'
[16:01] <asad2005> glitsj16: I dont want sound on every key press but when error press
[16:02] <onetinsoldier> krizoek: have you tried ksystemlog? i've never used it myself. but from the description is sounds pretty nice
[16:03] <krizoek> yes, but it doesnt seem to filter that much as i see it
[16:03] <onetinsoldier> krizoek: i just fired it up to check it out
[16:04] <krizoek> perhaps logzilla will do the trick
[16:06] <kostkon> !info logzilla
[16:06] <krizoek> logzilla seem to cost
[16:06] <glitsj16> asad2005: if you get alert sounds on every key press perhaps you need to look at your accessability settings, that has several options to beep
[16:08] <asad2005> glitsj16: No i dont have it and only when it when i press the arrow key to desplay next item but there are no next items i.e. key press error. Where can i set this?
[16:09] <asad2005> glitsj16: Sorry i can not explain it more than this
[16:10] <glitsj16> asad2005: you can't set it in liferea i think .. no problem, i think i get what you want, just don't know of any other place than through sound/accessability settings settings .. what version of ubuntu are you having this issue on?
[16:11] <kostkon> asad2005, disable the sound for the warning and/or error events in sound settings -> sound effects
[16:12] <asad2005> glitsj16: 13.10, it was working before but not now after fresh installing 13.10, previous installation was an upgrade from 13.04, i had to format HD for UEIF/GPT
[16:14] <asad2005> kostkon: Sound effect alert is enabled and i just want key press error sound
[16:15] <rosipov> is there any way to reset grub configuration without live CD? I tinkered with grub config and now the only thing I see is a background image. No text, input ignored, timer not working - I can't boot to any of my OSes...
[16:16] <prakash_> hello
[16:16] <onetinsoldier> rosipov: i seriously doubt it
[16:17] <prakash_> i am using ubuntu 13.10. I am not able to install teamviewer
[16:17] <imghost> !info teamviewer
[16:17] <rosipov> onetinsoldier: is there any way to access anything if grub is not responding to any input?
[16:18] <imghost> prakash_, try to download manually from its official website
[16:18] <onetinsoldier> rosipov: i don't think so
[16:18] <vigistvan> Dikk, mi ez a  hely?
[16:19] <vigistvan> van itt magyar anyanyelvű?
[16:19] <DJones> !hu | vigistvan
[16:20] <onetinsoldier> rosipov: i've never really leanred grub to any extent. perhaps some grub guru could help. but... i doubt it. i'm just saying from the  sounds of it, you need to get a live cd and put the grub config file back to the way it was
[16:21] <onetinsoldier> learned*
[16:22] <onetinsoldier> how do you get to the grub console at the grub boot screen?
[16:22] <joe_b> onetinsoldier, usually shift.
[16:22] <onetinsoldier> ahh, roger thank you joe_b
[16:22] <joe_b> And that is a change from years ago when it was esc.
[16:23] <joe_b> Sorry, no I'm stupid, I thought you were asking how to get to grub.
[16:23] <onetinsoldier> joe_b: i thought i remembered it being Esc
[16:23] <glitsj16> asad2005: strange that you don't have accessability settings, but you might try checking those settings by using dconf-editor and doing a find on 'sticky'
[16:23] <joe_b> Do you want the grub console or a normal command prompt?
[16:24] <onetinsoldier> joe_b: i was actually asking, in order to try and help someone, who left when they didn't get an answer they were looking for
[16:25] <joe_b> Ok.
[16:25] <joe_b> Anyone else had trouble with kernels 3.11.0-{13,14}?
[16:26] <joe_b> Using either of those I get a hard lockup within 24 hours.  I reverted to 3.11.0-12 2 days, 11:06 hours ago and haven't had any trouble since.
[16:26] <onetinsoldier> i'd recommend sticking with what works
[16:26] <joe_b> Since it was a kernel lockup I can't provide any log or further info, so I don't know if I should file a bug?, thoughts?
[16:27] <joe_b> Well sure, but I worry it will cause issues for other folk who may not be comfortable enough with ubuntu to say "oh, well I know this kernel worked, so I'll just revert to that".
[16:28] <joe_b> Also, I just dropped a ton of money on hardware thinking it might be a hardware issue (but hey faster computer is always winning, right?).
[16:29] <onetinsoldier> joe_b: i hear you. perhaps entering a bug report would be good. but you know, they want info
[16:29] <[Gentoo]> joe_b: do you use any unusual drivers?
[16:30] <asad2005> glitsj16: Where is this accssisiblity settings? in system settings there is no icon for this
[16:30] <joe_b> lsmod > http://paste.ubuntu.com/6578898/
[16:31] <joe_b> onetinsoldier, even if it's the kernel not playing well with a driver, that's still a kernel issue.
[16:32] <asad2005> glitsj16: in dconfig-editor there is stickykeys_enable and stickykeys_modifier_beep which one do i have to enable
[16:33] <posthuman> hey guys ... i have a problem connecting my ubuntu machine via ipsec/l2tpd  to my server  ... my mobile device works just perfect so i cant really figure out whats wrong
[16:33] <posthuman> ins syslog it says sent [LCP TermReq id=0x3 "peer refused to authenticate"]
[16:34] <onetinsoldier> joe_b: perhaps you meant that for Gentoo? he asked if you have any unusual drivers
[16:34] <[Gentoo]> joe_b: not always
[16:35] <joe_b> Ok, anyways, is lsmod an ok way to show which drivers I'm using?
[16:35] <glitsj16> asad2005: that's why i find it strange, but i don't use 13.10 .. you can try to set enable to false in the a11y keyboard pane or take a look what you have set on anything that says beep in the same place
[16:35] <tozen> hi all! folks does anybody able to explain me why removing .Xauthority file exactly sorting out issues with  login session? thx
[16:35] <[Gentoo]> joe_b: yes
[16:35] <[Gentoo]> its hard to say with no logs
[16:35] <joe_b> Ok, I put the output of lsmod at http://paste.ubuntu.com/6578898/
[16:36] <[Gentoo]> joe_b: possibly something to to with kvm and vbox modules being loaded at same time?
[16:36] <gordonjcp> is there a way to install Ubuntu from a desktop image, without installing any of the desktop stuff
[16:36] <[Gentoo]> no idea if they can be used together without problems
[16:36] <hydra7> how to fix the flash player problem in ubuntu?
[16:36] <gordonjcp> like, if I want to install an Ubuntu server, but only have install media for Desktop handy
[16:37] <imghost> tozen, instead removing .xauthority you can also just change the owernership to your username from root
[16:37] <tozen> gordonjcp: use ubuntu minimal.iso
[16:37] <alias> nick ndldd
[16:38] <gordonjcp> tozen: I was going to but I couldn't get it to work
[16:38] <joe_b> [Gentoo], would you recommend blacklisting kvm or can I uninstall?
[16:38] <gordonjcp> tozen: in any case, that doesn't solve the problem
[16:39] <tozen> imghost: ok thx! but I would prefer to get explaining
[16:39] <[Gentoo]> joe_b: if you dont use it idk why its loaded
[16:39] <tozen> gordonjcp: why? where the problem was?
[16:39] <[Gentoo]> joe_b: you could just try rmmod it and see how it goes
[16:39] <gordonjcp> tozen: it didn't work
[16:39] <gordonjcp> tozen: no way to debug it, just a blank purple screen
[16:39] <[Gentoo]> joe_b: its impossible for me to say with no logs
[16:40] <contractor99> Just out of curiosity, does anyone have any link to a survey showing stats on Unity users vs. Gnome3 users?
[16:40] <imghost> tozen, .xauthfile stores credentials of your xsession
[16:40] <tozen> imghost: ok, cheers, pal!
[16:40] <[Gentoo]> contractor99: for the whole of linux users?
[16:40] <[Gentoo]> contractor99: i doubt theres a reliable chart - how would they know
[16:41] <contractor99> i dunno, sometimes ppl do polls on /. or gizmodo and stuff.. was wondering if there is such a thing
[16:41] <[Gentoo]> ah
[16:41] <[Gentoo]> probably thousands of them in forums etc
[16:41] <Calinou> contractor99, phoronix.com does a survey yearly
[16:41] <Calinou> but as any other survey, it is not 100% reliable
[16:42] <alkisg> We have 5.000 school classroom PCs here using gnome-fallback, they don't show up in any survey :)
[16:42] <[Gentoo]> im gutted steamos only supports uefi at the moment i really wanted to try that yesterday
[16:43] <joe_b> Ok, rmmod'ed kvm intel and kvm.  I don't think it's going to matter much for me since hopefully my computer will be up for another week or two before I have reason to restart, at which point I might be able to skip over the two troublesome ones.
[16:43] <contractor99> good point alkisg
[16:43] <[Gentoo]> joe_b: blacklisting them if you dont use kvm wont hurt either way
[16:44] <contractor99> it is understandable, sure, there's no expectation of reliability from such surveys...
[16:45] <contractor99> just curiosity to see what the reactions are :-)
[16:45] <contractor99> from these polls
[16:45] <[Gentoo]> i would guess more people use gnome if its out of them 2 and on any distro
[16:45] <[Gentoo]> for ubuntu only, i would guess unity
[16:45] <contractor99> some of my friends have switched back and forth between the two
[16:46] <contractor99> and it looks like they tend to stay with gnome longer than they do with unity
[16:46] <gordonjcp> I don't really like Gnome 3
[16:46] <contractor99> however what interests me is the switchbacks
[16:47] <contractor99> what's ur preference gordonjcp ?
[16:48] <[Gentoo]> i think theyre pretty similar
[16:49] <[Gentoo]> imo
[16:49] <hydra7> is there a workaround for flash in linux other than installing chrome?
[16:49] <[Gentoo]> hydra7: how do you mean
[16:50] <[Gentoo]> chrome is a good idea to use just for flash (if you dont normally use chrome)
[16:50] <[Gentoo]> unless theres a package which adds flash / pdf etc support to chromium
[16:51] <contractor99> yeap, that's what i do, mostly chrome is there for flash needs
[16:51] <BeWilled> Hello will the command sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh -a keep everything in the /root folder?
[16:52] <hydra7> [Gentoo]: okay
[16:55] <iampoz> hi, does anyone know how to disable my laptop touch pad permanently?
[16:55] <iampoz> Other then taking a hammer to it?
[16:55] <[Gentoo]> iampoz: maybe rmmod the driver
[16:55] <hydra7> [Gentoo]: should i uninstall chromium
[16:55] <[Gentoo]> hydra7: you dont have to
[16:55] <mike-irssi> hydra7: flashplugin-nonfree
[16:55] <[Gentoo]> chrome and chromium can run alongside each other
[16:56] <[Gentoo]> iampoz: i think the drive is synaptics (not 100% sure) try lsmod
[16:56] <glitsj16> iampoz: disabling it through system settings doesn't work?
[16:56] <hydra7> [Gentoo]: will i have some distinct advantage?
[16:57] <[Gentoo]> hydra7: over what
[16:57] <iampoz> there are system settings for it?
[16:57] <iampoz> [Gentoo] looking into what you just said, thanks for the idea
[16:57] <[Gentoo]> iampoz: if you dont ever need it you wont need the driver anyway
[16:57] <glitsj16> iampoz: sure, mouse and touchpad settings
[16:58] <iampoz> it just gives me options for the mouse, no touch pad settings
[16:59] <glitsj16> iampoz: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[16:59] <iampoz> 12.04
[16:59] <glitsj16> iampoz: [Gentoo]'s option will always work though
[16:59] <iampoz> so long as i rmmod the correct one!
[17:00] <[Gentoo]> paste lsmod
[17:00] <iampoz> k
[17:00] <quick--1> Hi , Is there any software that can be used to install limited wifi usage per user on ubuntu ?
[17:00] <iampoz> http://pastebin.com/5tgqLJCz
[17:02] <Guest37694> hi does anyone know where can i download ram?
[17:02] <[Gentoo]> Guest37694: funny
[17:02] <[Gentoo]> waiting for downloadmoreram link
[17:03] <hydra7> Guest37694: rutrolling.com
[17:04] <[Gentoo]> iampoz: not sure of the module there, ive got no experience with touchpad etc
[17:05] <iampoz> thanks anyways [Gentoo], I will figure it out
[17:06] <mike-irssi> hydra7: that would be awesome tho, it should be a hotkey--that and screen rez
[17:07] <hydra7> lol
[17:08] <mike-irssi> toggling both--i meant
[17:09] <hydra7> mike-irssi: wait, are you talking about chromium and chrome?
[17:10] <mike-irssi> hydra7: ubuntu
[17:10] <Hans-Martin> farewell - I've upgraded to 13.10 and now I need to reboot. If I don't come back, you know what happened to me. Don't cry for me, #ubuntu :-)
[17:11] <gordonjcp> Hans-Martin: bonne chance
[17:11] <hydra7> mike-irssi: confused o.O
[17:11] <MonkeyDust> mike-irssi  i havent followed, what seems to be the problem?
[17:11] <is2b007> can apt-get be used to download utorrent web server?
[17:11] <[Gentoo]> utorrent hasnt got linux version
[17:12] <is2b007> thought it did
[17:12] <[Gentoo]> no
[17:12] <is2b007> i've seen v3.0 online
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> is2b007  TRY DELUGE
[17:12] <[Gentoo]> maybe it does now
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> OOPS
[17:12] <[Gentoo]> why would you wana use utorrent anyway
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> is2b007  try deluge
[17:12] <is2b007> okay
[17:13] <mike-irssi> is2b007: not that i'm aware of, but if you get it compiled the username is admin and the password is blank
[17:14] <is2b007> mike-irssi: yeah I found that version, seems outdated thought maybe there was a newer version
[17:14] <[Gentoo]> you might as well use a proper linux torrent client
[17:15] <[Gentoo]> utorrent used to be good on windows in the old days
[17:15] <is2b007> so deluge is the way to go?
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> !info deluge | is2b007
[17:15] <mike-irssi> [Gentoo]: utorrent server, you use your browser to download--weird
[17:15] <is2b007> cool, thanks
[17:16] <[Gentoo]> mike-irssi: ?
[17:16] <mike-irssi> it's not a client but it has a version
[17:17] <[Gentoo]> what does utorrent server do?
[17:17] <[Gentoo]> compared to a client
[17:17] <mike-irssi> it's just a client really
[17:17] <[Gentoo]> weird name
[17:17] <[Gentoo]> lol
[17:17] <mike-irssi> it is
[17:18] <[Gentoo]> transmission-daemon is prob the best youll get on linux as its light and has a load of uis
[17:18] <[Gentoo]> no toolbars / ads / bloat either lol
[17:18] <Hans-Martin> well hat was smooth...
[17:18] <Hans-Martin> s/hat/that/
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> mike-irssi  you want to setup a bittorent server, is that it?
[17:22] <nashant> How do I check what user is running a service?
[17:22] <nashant> Can I get the associated user/group using ps?
[17:23] <[Gentoo]> top will tell you
[17:23] <MonkeyDust> or htop
[17:23] <[Gentoo]> course
[17:25] <peroht> Hi, I've got a base system, harddrive A which only has linux installed (ubuntu 12.04). I recently removed that harddrive and plugged in a new harddrive, B, on which i installed a dual boot system (ubuntu 13.10/win7). I now want to put disk A back again and make it possible to dual/tripple-boot. I am not 100% sure which startup files I should edit. Assistance welcome.
[17:25] <mike-irssi> nashant: ps and i think grep, i.e. ps aux | grep user
[17:25] <Anuska> hi, question about weechat , if i open weechat in ssh and i exit the ssh? how i enter in weechat openede?
[17:25] <Anuska> becouse running in background
[17:25] <Calinou> use a screen?
[17:25] <nashant> ok, I've got something funny going on then. apache is running under www:www, and the whole path leading up to my web root is owned by www:www, but I'm getting a forbidden error
[17:25] <[Gentoo]> Anuska: tmux or similar
[17:26] <[Gentoo]> ctrl+b then d
[17:26] <[Gentoo]> to detatch
[17:26] <nashant> the vhost is set to allow
[17:26] <[Gentoo]> Anuska: then exit ssh,then you can tmux attach anywhere
[17:26] <papa_> I am running Lubuntu and I am trying to change the name of a desktop Icon and when I change it it stays the same. Any idea why?
[17:27] <Anuska> yes [Gentoo], but if i want to be opened all time?
[17:27] <Calinou> papa_, you have to edit the .desktop file... known issue when using non-english languages
[17:27] <Anuska> and i want only to open  without close every time?
[17:27] <[Gentoo]> Anuska: weechat will stay running
[17:27] <[Gentoo]> Anuska: if you detach a tmux session all processes inside will stay running (as long as the box is on of course)
[17:27] <papa_> How would I do that? I am only using the english language on ti too
[17:28] <mike-irssi> peroht: i would try live cd and then install boot-repair
[17:28] <papa_> Calinou I figured it out
[17:28] <papa_> thank you
[17:28] <Anuska> [Gentoo] yes but if i close the terminal how i re-enter in program? without kill
[17:29] <[Gentoo]> Anuska: dont kno what you mean
[17:29] <papa_> Only other issue I have is when  I set a favorite on the desktop from a website i can only open it in firefox not chromium
[17:29] <[Gentoo]> Anuska: run tmux, run weechat, press ctrl + b then d to detach tmux (do what you like, log out, whatever) tmux will stay running, enter any terminal and run tmux attach to get back to tmux with weechat running
[17:29] <peroht> mike-irssi: thnks, i will check that out.
[17:30] <mike-irssi> peroht: or just install-grub
[17:30] <al_la> Hey all, quick question.  Fresh 13.10 install, went to Google Plus and upon pop-up, installed web app.  Once installed, the launcher icon is a gray question mark.  Searching dash shows blank file icon.  Clicking launcher takes me to correct page.  I purged unity-webapps-googleplus, re-installed and still same problem.  This happens for all of my web apps, but no other programs.  Another symptom: no web apps have integrated into messaging noti
[17:30] <MonkeyDust> Anuska  or !screen
[17:30] <al_la> fication (other programs like xchat can).  Any ideas?
[17:30] <mike-irssi> peroht: sorry i mean grub-install
[17:30] <Anuska> if i press ctrl + b nothing happend
[17:31] <[Gentoo]> Anuska: thats the special key, you have to press d after
[17:31] <[Gentoo]> to detach
[17:31] <[Gentoo]> MonkeyDust: everyone i know prefers tmux why would you use screen over tmux
[17:32] <MonkeyDust> [Gentoo]  because I don't know everyone you know and because I'm used to screen
[17:32] <[Gentoo]> i was gona say except if you're used to screen
[17:34] <MonkeyDust> [Gentoo]  now the user can choose what s/he likes more, tmux or screen
[17:34] <[Gentoo]> of course
[17:36] <otak> oh I love screen, don't know if it's worth learning tmux or not
[17:36] <nespik> Tmux is not that hard to learn
[17:36] <[Gentoo]> screen is just really old, tmux has more features better config cleaner code etc
[17:36] <jrib> otak: try it out for an hour or so; it's better in almost every way
[17:37] <[Gentoo]> a lot of people who go screen - tmux just rebind the main key so its like screens
[17:38] <nashant> ok, I've got something funny going on then. apache is running under www:www, and the whole path leading up to my web root is owned by www:www, but I'm getting a forbidden error. the vhost is set to allow
[17:41] <awktion_> o:
[17:42] <glitsj16> nashant: you might need to check /etc/apache2/envvars to see what you have there, it defaults to www-data instead of www as user/group on ubuntu
[17:42] <nashant> glitsj16, yeah, I set it to www
[17:43] <glitsj16> nashant: might i ask why you don't use the www-data defaults? just asking
[17:43] <awktion_> well
[17:43] <awktion_> the real test might be to set it back to www-data and see what happens
[17:43] <awktion_> or try reloading the service verbosely
[17:44] <nashant> glitsj16: dunno. Just prefer www
[17:44] <nashant> I've checked top, and it's being run by www
[17:44] <awktion_> ok
[17:44] <bowser4> hi folks, i have a fairly fresh install of 13.10 (my first foray into ubuntu) but after doing a sudo apt-get -f install as recommended by a package i was installing (cant remember which one) it no longer boots as before, it boots to my desktop and thats it - no log on, no menu's etc - I can right click but thats all. Have I broken something?
[17:45] <awktion_> bowser4: does alt+f2 open a box?
[17:45] <awktion_> if so run gnome-terminal
[17:45] <glitsj16> nashant: i'm with awktion .. no clue what could be wrong running with www
[17:45] <bowser4> oooh didnt know that, will try. as sudo?
[17:45] <awktion_> na
[17:46] <nashant> I'll check www-data
[17:46] <awktion_> you're looking for a file - .xsession-errors or so
[17:46] <bowser4> if it does, assuming gnome-terminal will give me a bash terminal, how should I look to fix it>
[17:46] <bowser4> ?
[17:46] <awktion_> it should tell you what went wrong with the gui launch
[17:47] <bowser4> ok
[17:47] <awktion_> you mgiht also try installing ubuntu-desktop (sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop)
[17:47] <awktion_> this is a catch-all 'metapackage'
[17:47] <bowser4> lovely. I shall try, many thanks asktion
[17:47] <awktion_> a metapackage is one that has no real content itself, but pulls in a bunch of other packages as 'recommended installs' or 'recommends'
[17:47] <bowser4> awktion
[17:47] <bowser4> sorry
[17:48] <awktion_> so package a depends on b c d, so if you install package a, it will pull in b c d on its own
[17:48] <bowser4> ok thanks
[17:48] <awktion_> so ubuntu-desktop is the package that is in a typical 'gnome' based install
[17:48] <awktion_> kubuntu-desktop for kde and so forth
[17:49] <awktion_> once in a while when installing a package its dependancies will rip out something else inside ubuntu-desktop
[17:49] <awktion_> then if there are any issues, the upgraded package(s) might not be re-installed, which can leave you broken
[17:49] <awktion_> pulling in the desktop package can help with some of that, sometimes you will get an error which is telling for the next step
[17:50] <awktion_> anyway i'm out before the ops can ban me for distributing more truth ;P
[17:51] <shadow98> what is best way to create bootable usb drive that i can use to install...having no luck with unetbootin
[17:51] <shadow98> or iso to usb
[17:51] <onetinsoldier> i just got here. sounds like i missed out on something good awktion_ , lol
[17:52] <gordonjcp> shadow98: dd if=/path/to/iso of=/path/to/usb/stick
[17:52] <gordonjcp> ... and wait for a while
[17:52] <shadow98> well no linux distro's
[17:52] <shadow98> only windows
[17:52] <daftykins> shadow98: you want to make Linux ones from Windows, or?
[17:52] <fyoorer_> @shadow98 if you are on windows try universal USB installer
[17:53] <shadow98> correct
[17:54] <shadow98> trying now thanks
[17:54] <shadow98> i do have virtual machine running linux mint on laptop..how can i access windows file system
[17:54] <shadow98> if i want to write the iso from there
[17:54] <shadow98> in virtual machine
[17:56] <cGull> I want a live 12.04 put on a usb stick, i want that to be persistant. I was wondering about file-systems when burning the iso's onto the usb. I  have a 64GB stick and most programs like UUI wants to format it to FAT32. But when formating it through windows it says FAT32 isn't supporting that size and that i should use exFAT. I've gotten some errors
[17:56] <cGull>  when trying to get this to work, could it have something to do with my usb size and filesystems ?
[17:58] <daftykins> cGull: yes FAT32 can't handle greater than ~40GB odd
[17:58] <MonkeyDust> cGull  are you in windows now?
[17:58] <varunendra> shadow98, if you have a virtual machine, boot it with the Ubuntu ISO and use the inbuilt "Startup Disk Creator" to create the Live USB
[17:58] <daftykins> you could split your drive into two
[17:58] <cGull> yes, i'm in windows now. And i've tried several iso burning programs, all try to format it to FAT32
[17:59] <MonkeyDust> cGull  maybe the people in ##windows can give better advice
[17:59] <urn> hey guys i'm trying to write a really simple bash script to check the first argument and for some reason my case statement always takes the default branch
[17:59] <chad> anyone else having problems with plex media not reading externals?
[18:00] <cGull> I've gotten it to work, to boot into ubuntu 12.04 with persistancy, but i get ext-2 file-system errors and boot problems. But perhaps if i could half my USB stick and use one partition on it? I'll look into it. Thanks
[18:00] <urn> i have case $1 in all) ;; *) esac and it always goes to the default branch. I've tried googling it and this is exactly what is in 3 different tuts ive found but no dice. What am I doing wrong?
[18:00] <varunendra> daftykins, the new exFAT can handle much larger partition and file sizes.
[18:00] <daftykins> yeah i know
[18:01] <mike-irssi> cGull: I've used ntfs for live cd, can't recall the software--but instead of using the whole stick why not partition.. right click my computer and then manage
[18:01] <daftykins> varunendra: doesn't mean a user can always use it
[18:01] <varunendra> daftykins, all current Linux and windows versions support it. Probably onle Macs don't
[18:02] <shadow98> dang universal usb installer did not work either
[18:02] <daftykins> varunendra: i know that, but... ugh nevermind. help the helpee :P
[18:02] <shadow98> it boots to syslinux 4.07 edd 2013......and stops
[18:02] <varunendra> shadow98, did you try the inbuilt Startup Disk Creator?
[18:02] <cGull> Can i perhaps manually format it to exFAT, mount the ISO in a program and manually copy/paste the Ubuntu ISO content over to the USB stick? Will that work?
[18:02] <shadow98> not yet
[18:02] <daftykins> cGull: no.
[18:03] <cGull> or find a iso burner that supports another file system.
[18:03] <cGull> ah ok
[18:04] <varunendra> cGull, you can simply create a small FAT partition for the live system, then you can either place the casper-rw file on the larger partition (exFAT) or create a whole partition named "casper-rw" for persistence
[18:05] <cGull> varunendra: thanks, i'll look into that right now! I'm not very comfortable with linux yet but i'm learning ^^
[18:05] <varunendra> oh, cGull I never tried putting casper-rw file on a separate partition myself (I prefer a separate partition itself), so can't say if it'll work
[18:06] <varunendra> cGull, do you have gparted installed?
[18:06] <varunendra> it is already available on the live media
[18:06] <cGull> varunendra: nope, never heard of it, i'm looking at win7 partition manager right now
[18:06] <varunendra> whatever does the job :)
[18:07] <cGull> thanks guys, this give me just enough hope to keep going
[18:08] <krish> hai guys
[18:08] <krish> what are you all doing
[18:08] <varunendra> cGull, I don't think it is difficult, although some flash drive model/brands themselves can be a challange sometimes.
[18:09] <cGull> if it was that my usb stick was too large and that has caused the weird problems, that's so silly i'll laugh if i can fix it :)
[18:12] <varunendra> cGull, you can have one FAT partition of the size of "Live CD/DVD + persistent space", and rest whatever you want. Or you can have the FAT partition only large enough to hold the live CD's contents, then a partition for persistence (as large as you wish), and rest a third partition for normal data sharing. This always works for me.
[18:13] <cGull> varunendra: cool, i'm also looking into gparted now
[18:15] <varunendra> cGull, that will have the advantage of being able to create linux partition (if you decide to create a separate "casper-rw" partition for persistence) :)
[18:16] <cGull> varunendra: nice, i'm not sure how i'd do all this but it's a good first step
[18:17] <aaas> so in ubuntu gui file manager, if I mount a samba share through the gui, is there a mountpoint on the filesystem that I can access from a terminal or other programs?  It's not in /media or /mnt
[18:17] <intrader> Anyone, on Ubuntu 12.04 on a Lenovo T61p with nvidia driver version '319 updates', after searching for this problem for years, it appears to me that the system is overheating due to the GPU; after fresh boot and just this hexChat page, the GPU temperature is 80C; if I add a flash video I see temperature in upper 90s, with eventual shutdown. The overheating problem appeared when I installed 10.04 with unity. Prior to that I seldom ha
[18:17] <intrader> d overheating. On WIndows XP with same load, no overheating with same flash video.what is going on?
[18:18] <varunendra> cGull, it is not much different than 'formatting' the drive for making it live bootable. The additional steps of creating two other partitions take less than 20 seconds on gparted.
[18:19] <SchrodingersScat> cGull: has this been pasted? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[18:20] <mike-irssi> intrader: fan speed?
[18:21] <cGull> SchrodingersScat: no, thanks, that looks like a lot of info, i'm using win7 right now and much of that seems to be linux oriented but i'll read up on it, thank you
[18:22] <mike-irssi> aaas: idk about samba but if i wanted to find where something is mount--type mount
[18:22] <intrader> mike-irssi, 3077rpm - and yes, the search included opening the laptop to find the fan frozen with dust and the indicator still showing high rpms. Fan is active
[18:24] <mike-irssi> intrader: i would increase the fan speed in nvidia settings--if possible
[18:26] <intrader> mike-irssi, how do I set the fan speed?. When the GPU goes into the 90s Celsius the speed goes up to 3200
[18:27] <mike-irssi> nvidia-settings
[18:27] <intrader> mike-irssi, the 317 driver and setting coretemp in /etc/modules allowed me to see the GPU temperature in psensor
[18:28] <mike-irssi> you need gpu fan speed not cpu
[18:28] <Guest70176> I installed ubuntu 12.04.3 server in a virtual machine, but I do no not have a login for some reason.  I have this in the terminal:  fsck from util-linux 2.20.1  /dev/vda1: clean, and then number of files and blocks.  How can I login, so that I can install app that works only on ubuntu 12.04?
[18:30] <chars6> hello
[18:30] <prx> Hey, sometimes i am getting weird graphic errors, its becoming rediculous.. for example, clicking on the "start" button does not pop up the search bar or anything... any ideas why is this happeneing?
[18:30] <chars6> I set up unattended-upgrades on an AWS ubuntu image yesterday
[18:30] <prx> I know a reboot would fix it, but thats really not fun
[18:31] <chars6> I thought it was only going to do security updates, but it did eveything
[18:31] <onetinsoldier> prx: i would suggest using another window manager for a while and see if you have the same issue. perhaps it's a 'compositing' issue
[18:32] <chars6> the only uncommented line in 50unattended-upgrades is the one that says security
[18:32] <chars6> i'm not sure what i did wrong
[18:32] <prx> onetinsoldier, whats another window manager?
[18:32] <onetinsoldier> prx: there's quite a few to choose from
[18:33] <prx> onetinsoldier, where can i view a list of them ? :)
[18:33] <onetinsoldier> prx: xfce, IceWM, Afterstep, WindowMaker, enlightenment, openbox, MotifWM(mwm), etc.
[18:33] <scarrs> greetz
[18:34] <varunendra> Guest70176, is that (util-linux 2.20.1  /dev/vda1: clean, and then number of files and blocks) what you get when you try to boot the VM? Can you get to grub boot menu to try booting in 'singularity' mode?
[18:34] <onetinsoldier> prx: you ever use aptitude? you could probably use synaptic as well, to view the 'category'
[18:34] <scarrs> running ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS on my vps and am trying to start ioquake3ded but cannot find the executable... I need a quick help please
[18:35] <intrader> mike-irssi: shows graphically what the temp is, but no control over fan speed. is there somewhere in ubuntu some setter??
[18:36] <onetinsoldier> prx: and really, i don't know what the problem is for certain. you might take a look at your logs. like Xorg.log, kern.log, dmesg. see if there's anything in the logs giving a hint. might not find anything there tho. hard to say
[18:36] <nohboard> hello
[18:37] <mike-irssi> intrader: nvclock
[18:38] <xubz> I'm on live USB of Ubuntu 12.04.1 right now
[18:38] <Swob> i used to be able to get WHOIS information for domains by typing whois ______ at a terminal
[18:38] <Guest8842> Is nvclock stable?
[18:38] <Swob> is it still possible to do that, or does it have to be done through a web browser?
[18:38] <nohboard> given that i had ubuntu with win in dual boot and th i removed ubuntu to enlarge its partitions within win then reinstall it again:
[18:38] <xubz> It says there's not space left
[18:38] <xubz> *no
[18:38] <prx> onetinsoldier, i wouldn't mind changing my window manager, but i would like to see them before installing... and under the software manager i cant seem to find it
[18:39] <nohboard> i can't boot anymore to win,will installing ubuntu again revive the MBR?
[18:39] <nohboard> *win7*
[18:39] <anathem> Swob: apt-get install whois
[18:39] <xubz> When I try to access the persistent virtual partition, it gives me this error - "Could not find /cow"
[18:39] <nohboard> and nor i can make it with ubuntu that i removed its partitions
[18:39] <onetinsoldier> prx: i thought there'd be a window manager category, but nope
[18:39] <xubz> I had to delete Thunderbird to free up space, lol
[18:40] <onetinsoldier> prx: no such category that i see in synaptic or aptitude
[18:40] <onetinsoldier> just search on the names i typed in earlier
[18:41] <Beldar> nohboard, do you have a recovery or install disc/usb for windows 7?
[18:41] <onetinsoldier> xfce, IceWM, Afterstep, WindowMaker, enlightenment, openbox, Motif, fluxbox
[18:42] <Swob> i want to be able to use the built-in whois command from a terminal window
[18:42] <Swob> when i try to do that it says
[18:42] <Swob> getaddrinfo(whois.crsnic.net): Name or service not known
[18:42] <nohboard> Beldar:i have another pc ,but the usb ports are not working,so even transfering the win7 iso from the 1st pc that has the issue isn't useful
[18:42] <onetinsoldier> prx: KDE is another window manager
[18:42] <Beldar> nohboard, So what is the end goal?
[18:42] <nohboard> thus i can't even make a win7 install cd in a usb flash disk
[18:43] <Swob> did they take down the free 'whois' interfasce?
[18:43] <nohboard> Beldar:i was wondering whether reinstalling ubuntu in the 1st pc will revive the win7 MBR,
[18:43] <onetinsoldier> prx: some of these window managers have the 'option' to enable/disable the compositing feature. i think, if you install ccsm it has the option to disable compositing in 'compiz', which is like the default window manager
[18:43] <MonkeyDust> Swob  leave out the . behind whois
[18:44] <nohboard> that is lost due to the old ubuntu removal
[18:44] <nohboard> i hope that i'm making myself clear
[18:44] <Beldar> nohboard, You had ubuntu, was windows then booting from the grub menu?
[18:44] <Swob> hmm? sorry i dont understand
[18:44] <nohboard> Beldar:yes,next to ubuntu in the grub menu
[18:44] <Swob> i want to type e.g. "whois google.com" and get the domain registration info
[18:45] <Swob> i used to be able to do that direectly through a terminal
[18:45] <Swob> now i can only get it to work through a web browser
[18:45] <Swob> i've only recently reinstalled Linux after being away from it for a few years
[18:45] <Beldar> nohboard, reinstall ubuntu in the small enough space with a manual install then boot w7 and resize it.
[18:45] <MonkeyDust> Swob  try whois crsnic.net
[18:45] <Swob> yeah it gives me an error message
[18:46] <Swob> getaddrinfo(whois.crsnic.net): Name or service not known
[18:46] <MonkeyDust> Swob  without that first .
[18:46] <xubz> I just have ~15 MB space left that the system can use
[18:46] <nohboard> Beldar:the thing is a sorted my data and left a 55 gb of free space to ubuntu,where it will be installed with win7
[18:46] <nootilus> Hello the wolrd! Can someone tells me how to remove a bad ppa from my list?
[18:46] <nohboard> *thing is that I sorted*
[18:47] <xubz> nootilus
[18:47] <onetinsoldier> !info ppa-purge
[18:47] <Beldar> nohboard, I can't understand that, was the ubuntu installed from windows before?
[18:47] <nootilus> I tried sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa ane ppa-purge but none worked
[18:47] <Swob> what would i type to do a whois command then?
[18:47] <xubz> I had the same issue, I fixed it and I can't recall how
[18:48] <cGull> So varunendra, i've tried to partition my USB stick just under 4GB and format it to FAT32, I've installed the iso with a small 1GB persistent part and booted the system. Seemed to work perfectly! Then i create a few folders and reboot a few times. Now it's stuck with my usuall problem of "EXT2-fs (loop1):" error and everythings back to being bad. I
[18:48] <cGull>  wonder if my USB stick is damaged, it's brand new and only been used for this, got it on friday. Dang
[18:48] <xubz> It had something to do with deleting the old entries
[18:48] <MonkeyDust> Swob  whois.blah gives an error, so try whois blah <-- with the dot
[18:48] <MonkeyDust> Swob  whois.blah gives an error, so try whois blah <-- without the dot
[18:48] <nohboard> Beldar:115 gb for win7 system/120 gb for a NTFS primary partition/and 55 gb for ubuntu (planning to install it there)
[18:48] <intrader> mike-irssi: that application allows me to tell it to control the fan speed. It already does. nvclock is unstable: seg fault on `nvclock -s`
[18:48] <nohboard> that's my HDD status
[18:49] <Swob> no, I mean I want to be able to use the whois command to look up domain information
[18:49] <prx> onetinsoldier, thanks i'll check it out
[18:49] <Swob> I used to be able to do that from a terminal
[18:49] <kkoli> difference between primary and logical partation.
[18:49] <Swob> now it just gives an error message
[18:49] <Swob> like I could do "whois google.com"
[18:49] <onetinsoldier> prx: okay, good luck
[18:49] <Swob> and it would spit out a few lines of info
[18:49] <mike-irssi> intrader: the only thing i can think of is that the speed of the fan isn't kicking on soon enough
[18:49] <Swob> only because it helps me keep track of domains that are about to expire
[18:49] <nootilus> I accidently copied the https address of a ppa and pasted it in the command line. now I have it listed in my ppas but it doesn’t allow me to remove it :(
[18:49] <SchrodingersScat> Swob: have you tried another whois server?  whois -h whois.iana.org 91.189.94.156 for example, maybe that one is just fubar for you at the moment
[18:50] <Swob> no
[18:50] <onetinsoldier> !info ppa-purge | nootilus
[18:50] <nootilus> hese’s what ppa-purge returns:
[18:50] <Swob> Im looking at a terminal window
[18:50] <Swob> there's no list of servers
[18:50] <nootilus> PPA to be removed: https://launchpad.net/~daniel.pavel/+archive solaar
[18:50] <nootilus> Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA:
[18:50] <nootilus> https://launchpad.net/~daniel.pavel/+archive solaar
[18:50] <lickalott> gents, can anyone offer a good backup/imaging solution for Ubuntu?  I've played with FSarchiver (didn't like it) and clonezilla, but clonezilla is a little more intrusive than I wanted.  i'm looking for a linux equivalent to Acronis
[18:50] <Swob> but i'll try copying that
[18:50] <intrader> mike-irssi: nvvlock seg faults on all tried options
[18:50] <onetinsoldier> nootilus: i've never used ppa-purge. just thought the info might be helpful
[18:50] <Swob> ok yeah it says the same message
[18:50] <Swob> getaddrinfo(whois.iana.org): Name or service not known
[18:51] <nootilus> thanks onetinsoldier
[18:51] <onetinsoldier> yw
[18:51] <mike-irssi> intrader: nvflash?
[18:51] <nootilus> onetinsoldier, actually that seems the best solution but I’m not able to use it
[18:51] <Swob> i think its just a bad internet connectiion
[18:51] <Beldar> nohboard, I'm not really able to understand you still, whathe thing is a sorted my data and left a 55 gb of free space to ubuntu,where it will be installed with win7" meant does "
[18:51] <kkoli> hello i need help.
[18:51] <Swob> i'lll look at it late. thanks
[18:52] <Swob> because no other wbsites are loading either
[18:52] <Swob> i should have checked that first
[18:52] <onetinsoldier> roger that nootilus. i would think the same. that it would have been the easiest solution
[18:53] <Beldar> nohboard, Sorry your description is hard to understand.
[18:53] <nohboard> Beldar:it's ok, never mind, i'll make  a usb installation for win7 within the live ubuntu then boot it in the pc and resort the lost MBR
[18:53] <nohboard> doesn't that look ok?
[18:53] <nootilus> maybe I’ll have to edit my ppa list manually :(
[18:53] <nulik> Who can I speak to that releases the Ubuntu files for download?
[18:53] <onetinsoldier> maybe
[18:53] <nohboard> e.g YUMI for linux
[18:53] <Anuska> hi, how i verify if driver for ati video are installed on my ubuntu?
[18:54] <onetinsoldier> nulik: not sure. maybe try #ubuntu-dev channel?
[18:54] <nulik> onetinsoldier: thanks
[18:54] <nohboard> Beldar:sorry,i feel that i'm not writing my words clearly,anyway i think that i got it now
[18:54] <onetinsoldier> Anuska: i might be able to help with that
[18:54] <mike-irssi> nohboard: if you have windows cd you can fixmbr from bootrec.exe
[18:54] <Beldar> nohboard, making a bootable usb of the windows iso in ubuntu us fairly easy ask me any questions if needed.
[18:54] <onetinsoldier> nulik: sure, you're welcome
[18:54] <mike-irssi> if that's all u want
[18:55] <onetinsoldier> Anuska: have you installed the fglrx driver, or?
[18:55]  * nohboard goes back to his laptop
[18:55] <Anuska> i install fglrx
[18:55] <onetinsoldier> Anuska: i have a phone call.. hang
[18:56] <glitsj16> nootilus: what command did you use to try the ppa-purge exactly?
[18:57] <nootilus> glitsj16, sudo ppa-purge ppa:https://launchpad.net/~daniel.pavel/+archive/solaar
[18:58] <glitsj16> nootilus: try sudo ppa-purge ppa:daniel.pavel/solaar
[18:59] <nootilus> glitsj16, problem is, I have both of them: the working one and the faulty one
[18:59] <Beldar> mike-irssi, If you look at the the posts on that my first question  was if they had a windows boot media.
[19:00] <nootilus> glitsj16, this one is working: http://ppa.launchpad.net/daniel.pavel/solaar/ubuntu
[19:00] <nootilus> glitsj16, this one is wrong and I can’t remove it: https://launchpad.net/~daniel.pavel/+archive/solaar
[19:01] <glitsj16> nootilus: that command didn't work? it should remove that last one, you just need the correct syntax for the ppa-purge command
[19:01] <onetinsoldier> Anuska: ok, back. had a phone call
[19:02] <onetinsoldier> Anuska: have you installed the fglrx driver, or is this about the built-in ati driver?
[19:02] <Anuska> i install fglrx
[19:02] <Guest70176> varunendra, I am going to reboot and see if I can chose different mode
[19:03] <nootilus> glitsj16, it’s still working…
[19:03] <onetinsoldier> Anuska: okay. after installing it you need to do the following command, and then reboot, if you haven't already done so  -->  sudo aticonfig --initial
[19:04] <nootilus> glitsj16, finished… checking…
[19:04] <Anuska> aticonfig: No supported adapters detected
[19:04] <Guest70176> varunendra, I got login this time
[19:04] <this> Hi there. I have installed ubuntu 12.04 LTS and have a few issues. Can I get help here?
[19:05] <nootilus> glitsj16, now in my ppas list, the good ppa is unchecked but the faulty one is still hese, checked and still unremovable :(
[19:05] <imghost> this, yes
[19:05] <viyyer> can anyone suggest a resource for installing ubuntu apple laptops . especially the GPT issues
[19:05] <glitsj16> nootilus: do you want both of them removed?
[19:05] <Axz> Howdy people. trying to get bumblebee working on Ubuntu 13.10 but getting these error's http://pastebin.com/KrnUhxTF
[19:05] <onetinsoldier> Anuska: what is the output from the following command?  -->  lspci | grep ATI
[19:06] <Anuska> 40:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV516 [Radeon X1600/X1650 Series]
[19:06] <Axz> Anyone here has Geforce  GPU on the laptop that could help me out
[19:06] <xubz> "Could not find /cow" - Any help?
[19:06] <Anuska> 40:00.1 Display controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV516 [Radeon X1600/X1650 Series] (Secondary)
[19:06] <this> Ok here I go: I don't like the resizing: If I resize a window is get's resized on all four edges, not only the edges I grab. Can I change this?
[19:06] <kostkon> this, weird
[19:06] <nootilus> glitsj16, if it solves all, yes that could do it… I could just put the good one afterward
[19:07] <onetinsoldier> Anuska: i don't know what's wrong with "aticonfig --initial" then. makes me wonder if the flgrx driver supports that card
[19:07] <pentester> https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2013/intelr-graphics-installer-1.0.2-linux trying to install the driver from this page. installer says repos not satisfied
[19:08] <Anuska> onetinsoldier, and what i do ?
[19:08] <imghost> this, grab slowly
[19:08] <imghost> this, hold and then grab
[19:09] <onetinsoldier> Anuska: yeah, that's what i'm saying. i don't know. you could see if someone else in here can help by putting out a message in the channel describing the problem
[19:09] <intrader> mike-irssi: nvflash seems to be very dangerous
[19:09] <glitsj16> nootilus: okay, i'd suggest running a sudo apt-get remove <package-names> to remove everything that PPA contains first, after that we'll remove the confusing .list files , take step 1 first if you please
[19:09] <this> Well I changed resize mode from "rectangle" to "normal": That seems to do the trick.
[19:10] <Anuska> Hi, i try to config my Ati driver and give me : aticonfig: No supported adapters detected
[19:10] <xubz> See ya all in a little while after rebooting
[19:10] <xubz> Thanks
[19:10] <Beldar> pentester, I was using that intel app as well and had it do the same, I could not find any fix.
[19:10] <imghost> this, ok, u can also press alt and middle button on the mouse :)
[19:10] <Anuska> onetinsoldier, look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1540387
[19:10] <pentester> beldar: what a bummer
[19:10] <onetinsoldier> Anuska: okay
[19:11] <Beldar> pentester, Is the computer fine though?
[19:11] <intrader> glitsj16: you are back - I am after the gpu overheating problem - seems that activating the driver made things worse. What does it do without the driver?
[19:11] <imghost> Anuska, whats your issue?
[19:11] <nulik> Has anyone here downloaded 12.04 within the last week and had problems?
[19:12] <Anuska> Hi, i try to config my Ati driver and give me : aticonfig: No supported adapters detected
[19:12] <this> Another issue: I installed tor-browser with apt-get. But when I start torbrowser I get the error: [Warning] /usr/bin/tor-browser/Data/Tor is not owned by this user (this, 1000) but by root (0). Perhaps you are running Tor as the wrong user?
[19:12] <pentester> Beldar: I cannot access some menus in dota2
[19:12] <glitsj16> intrader: hi again, without the nvidia driver your machine uses the open-source nouveau driver, no clue what impact that will have on your issue
[19:12] <nootilus> glitsj16, I manually edited /etc/apt/sources.list and removed the faulty ppa line
[19:12] <Axz> I have bumblebee installed got his error : [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: Could not load GPU driver
[19:13] <Sir_Leto> Calinou: Are you there? Audio works perfectly now, except for audio from chrome
[19:13] <glitsj16> nootilus: so all good again?
[19:13] <onetinsoldier> Anuska: it looks like your card is an old AGP type of video card. i don't know how to help with that when it comes to the fglrx driver. you might just want to use the built-in open source video driver like it says  in that thread
[19:13] <imghost> Anuska,before installing did you check whether your graphics card is supported for swicthing or not?
[19:13] <Anuska> imghost no :(
[19:13] <nootilus> glitsj16, it semms to be fine now. I’m waiting for the end of the apt-get update & upgrade to be sure, but already my packages are updating which they couldn’t previouly
[19:14] <Anuska> imghost, no know :(
[19:14] <glitsj16> nootilus: sound okay then
[19:14] <intrader> glitsj16: i will deselect the 317 driver and reboot - let you know and thanks again
[19:14] <lickalott> okay then
[19:15] <glitsj16> intrader: yes, try and compare what nouveau driver does
[19:15] <intrader> glitsj16: i hope I don't loose the GPU temperature display
[19:16] <imghost> Anuska, why?, did you do it urself or somebody told you to install fglrx?
[19:16] <glitsj16> intrader: not sure about that, i don't know if nouveau offers that
[19:16] <Anuska> imghost, i read on forum ubuntu
[19:17] <imghost> Anuska, paste the output of lspci | grep VGA
[19:18] <Anuska> imghost 40:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV516 [Radeon X1600/X1650 Series]
[19:18] <syzo> 4th gen i7 laptop w/ integrated "HD 4400" graphics, 8gb ram - can play youtube videos fine, play tf2 decently well, but can't play hdd-saved videos of seemingly any resolution without locking up the entire computer - any thoughts? Running xubuntu 13.10.
[19:19] <intrader> glitsj16: is the nouveau driver installed by default?
[19:19] <this> imghost: Thanks. Windows resizing works not as expected.
[19:19] <Miron> rude
[19:19] <glitsj16> intrader: yes, if you sudo apt-get purge nvidia-... it should fall back to that after a reboot
[19:20] <imghost> Anuska, now go to http://support.amd.com/en-us/download and first see for the support of your graphics card, if your graphics cards is supported officialy from amd then only i will advise you to install fglrx
[19:20] <imghost> Anuska, otherwise use open source
[19:20] <Anuska> let me see
[19:20] <intrader> glitsj16: can I not simply deselect it from the additional drivers window?
[19:21] <Anuska> imghost, http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop/legacy?product=Legacy1&os=Linux%20x86_6
[19:21] <glitsj16> intrader: that might work, i find the additional drivers tool to be rather buggy, at least it is on my machine so i rarely see it
[19:21] <Anuska> imghost, http://www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-9-3-x86.x86_64.run
[19:22] <nootilus> glitsj16, I don’t know what the ppa-purge could have done, but it looks like my computer didn’t have udpates for ages :) It takes hours …
[19:22] <glitsj16> intrader: or use software center to remove nvidia, whatever you're familiar with
[19:22] <intrader> glitsj16: rebooting - how do I determine if nouveau is active?
[19:23] <Anuska> imghost, brb tel, 10min :*
[19:23] <onetinsoldier> Anuska: before you try installing that, if you're going to, you will want to remove/purge the current fglrx driver and reboot
[19:23] <imghost> Anuska, i did not ask you to provide me download link ok, and fyi your graphics is not supported
[19:23] <glitsj16> nootilus: seems like it always blocked your 'sudo apt-get update' .. nice you have that solved
[19:24] <glitsj16> nootilus: probably several new kernels
[19:24] <nootilus> glitsj16, I wait a bit before claiming it’s solved :) anyway thi faulty ppa blocked my updates only since a couple of day, maybe a week
[19:25] <glitsj16> nootilus: sure, let it update and use your regular apps to see if everything is back to normal
[19:26] <nootilus> glitsj16, update finished, everything went smooth, and the ugly faulty ppa is no more in the ppa list… whoohow! Problem: solved :)
[19:26] <Madkiss> I am trying to install Ubuntu on a brand new macbook pro. I used the amd64+ppc image.
[19:26] <nootilus> glitsj16, many thanks for your help
[19:26] <Madkiss> I got an error message telling me that grub could not be installed
[19:26] <this> I installed tor-browser with sudo apt-get. But when I start tor-browser I get the error: [Warning] /usr/bin/tor-browser/Data/Tor is not owned by this user (this, 1000) but by root (0). Perhaps you are running Tor as the wrong user? Can anyone help?
[19:27] <Madkiss> google shows tons of documents, but no working ones
[19:27] <glitsj16> nootilus: very welcome, enjoy :)
[19:27] <[Gentoo]> this: does it work?
[19:27] <Madkiss> could somebody point me to a working document? :)
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> Madkiss: does it have a PPC CPU?
[19:27] <nootilus> glitsj16, bye, thanks again!
[19:27] <[Gentoo]> this: if it does, sounds like just a warning
[19:27] <Madkiss> ActionParsnip: what?
[19:27] <glitsj16> intrader: wb, booted okay?
[19:27] <[Gentoo]> this: as tor is supposed to be run as tor user or sometimes root when as a system daemon
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> Madkiss: does the mac you have use a PPC CPU?
[19:28] <[Gentoo]> this: but the browser bundle is all in one
[19:28] <this> Gentoo: It does not work.
[19:28] <[Gentoo]> this: you could just install tor, then config firefox for it
[19:28] <Madkiss> ActionParsnip: well. there never was a macbook with a ppc, so no. it's two weeks old; it's a MacBook Pro 11,3.
[19:29] <[Gentoo]> this: try to fully remove the package, and all traces of it and reinstall
[19:29] <this> Gentoo: I know. But that is a little too complicated for me. I preferred tor-browser therefore.
[19:29] <[Gentoo]> this: is it in official repo?
[19:29] <intrader> glitsj16: back- how do I determine whether nouveau is running? Without the nvidia driver I lost the GPU temperature - fan is slower
[19:29] <[Gentoo]> this: do you use firefox as an ordinary browser?
[19:30] <[Gentoo]> other than for tor
[19:30] <this> I did apt-remove purge and reinstalled it. I think it was not the official repo. I had to apt-something wit ppa(?) before installing it.
[19:30] <[Gentoo]> yeah
[19:30] <[Gentoo]> sounds like possibly a dodgy package
[19:31] <glitsj16> intrader: lspci -k | egrep 'VGA|use' | grep VGA -A 1 should show you the present driver in use .. and try the 'sensors' command to see if nouveau shows you gpu temp
[19:31] <this> Gentoo: I use firefox. But would like to have a tor-browser for some things.
[19:31] <[Gentoo]> this: download it from tor website
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> Madkiss: then why are you using the PPC ISO when it has an Intel CPU?
[19:31] <[Gentoo]> this: you can run it without installing anything
[19:32] <[Gentoo]> then you wont have to bother with stupid ppas
[19:32] <ra1d3n> can anyone tell me why is have connections with 92.46.14.215.megaline.telecom.kz ? is it a virus?
[19:32] <this> Gentoo: You mean the whole tor-browser bundle?
[19:32] <Guest8842> I know this is Ubuntu but I have to say SteamOS not bad at all
[19:32] <[Gentoo]> this: yes
[19:32] <[Gentoo]> this: https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en#downloads
[19:32] <intrader> glitsj16: it looks like `lspci -k | egrep 'VGA|use' | grep VGA -A` requires an option
[19:33] <[Gentoo]> Guest8842: yeah i wanted to try it but not yet supporting bios
[19:33] <ra1d3n> can anyone tell me why I have connection with 92.46.14.215.megaline.telecom.kz ? is it a virus?
[19:33] <Guest8842> Yes at the moment its EFI job
[19:34] <Anuska> onetinsoldier, imghost i m back :*
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> !av | ra1d3n  this isnt Windows
[19:34] <glitsj16> intrader: what does it say exactly? use a paste website of your choice to give us the output here (or use pastebinit)
[19:34] <intrader> glitsj16: it looks like `lspci -k | egrep 'VGA|use' ` works to display nouveau as a module
[19:34] <Anuska> imghost, onetinsoldier, i read about this x1600 ... and support full
[19:34] <[Gentoo]> ra1d3n: you will notice, you'll get a lot of connecitons
[19:34] <[Gentoo]> lol
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> Madkiss: if Macbook has never used PPC, why are you using the PPC ISO?
[19:34] <glitsj16> intrader: cool, now what does the 'sensors' command output?
[19:35] <[Gentoo]> ra1d3n: what port?
[19:35] <[Gentoo]> check that
[19:35] <ra1d3n> I had like 100 connections
[19:35] <this> Gentoo: I did use the stand-allone tor-browser bundle before on ubuntu 10.04. But now in 12.04 I can't get the launching-script to be in the dock (that thing on the left, with the apps in it). That's why I installed the tor-browser with apt-get. Embarassing, isn't it...
[19:35] <Anuska> imghost, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[19:35] <[Gentoo]> this: no idea about dock
[19:36] <intrader> glitsj16: it also shows '01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G84GLM [Quadro FX 570M] (rev a1)'
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> This: why use tor-browser, its Firefox which is in a default install.
[19:36] <ra1d3n> port 50883
[19:36] <[Gentoo]> ActionParsnip: he dont wana config tor for it
[19:36] <[Gentoo]> ActionParsnip: tor-browser also comes with all the stuff like torbutton and some about:config tweaks
[19:36] <[Gentoo]> for privacy
[19:36] <glitsj16> intrader: that's just the info lspci shows you on what graphics card your system has, if the nouveau driver is in use your fine
[19:37] <[Gentoo]> all of which you can do yourself but..
[19:37] <this> Gentoo: That selection bar on the left of the screen, where the apps can be launched. Don't know how it's called.
[19:37] <[Gentoo]> this: yeah im not sure how you add a custom launcher to that
[19:37] <[Gentoo]> maybe make a desktop file
[19:37] <ra1d3n> Gentoo: port 50883
[19:37] <intrader> glitsj16: thanks - nouveau is active. I must leave for an errand.
[19:37] <[Gentoo]> ra1d3n: ok
[19:38] <[Gentoo]> ra1d3n: and why are you bothered about this
[19:38] <[Gentoo]> do you have something listening on there
[19:38] <ra1d3n> Gentoo: cause I dont trust them :P
[19:38] <glitsj16> intrader: no problem, i'd suggest you try to keep an eye on gpu temp by running 'sensors' command if psensors doesn't show that, see ya later
[19:38] <ActionParsnip> [Gentoo]: i like hearing why people use it. Some people think its a security measure. Very funny
[19:39] <[Gentoo]> ActionParsnip: lol yeah
[19:39] <imghost> lol
[19:39] <[Gentoo]> for banking lol
[19:40] <imghost> please help me to reduce my fan noise please anybody?? i have tried everything, and still no success
[19:40] <[Gentoo]> imghost: what fan
[19:40] <imghost> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6579813/
[19:41] <ra1d3n> but I head that programs connecting to ports like 50000 - 51000 are not often used ports and could indicate to trojan or somekind
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> Imghost: have you tried a lighter session, like LXDE etc.
[19:41] <[Gentoo]> ra1d3n: youre being paranoid
[19:41] <imghost> ActionParsnip, yes
[19:41] <[Gentoo]> ra1d3n: if you had ssh listening on there id be concerned
[19:41] <ActionParsnip> ra1d3n: could use iptables and block the IPs
[19:41] <this> ActionParsnip: I use tor cause I don't trust my ISP. I don't like if the see my connections plain.
[19:42] <ra1d3n> thanks alot will do
[19:42] <imghost> ActionParsnip, its just pwm-capable sensors are not available for any hp laptops
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> This: its still seen once it leaves tor
[19:42] <[Gentoo]> ActionParsnip: yeah but they cant see where from still
[19:42] <[Gentoo]> but the data can be seen
[19:42] <[Gentoo]> on the exit
[19:43] <ActionParsnip> [Gentoo]: dont you think cyber criminals and paedophiles use tor. It can all be tracked some way to stop that stuff or nobody would be caught
[19:43] <[Gentoo]> ActionParsnip: people running exit nodes get caught
[19:44] <[Gentoo]> ive not heard of someone on the middle getting done
[19:44] <[Gentoo]> thats why no one runs exits
[19:44] <[Gentoo]> because theyre usually innocent people trying to help tor network, and get police at their door
[19:45] <[Gentoo]> because of other people doing stuff
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> [Gentoo]: someone has to do it, or tor wouldnt work
[19:45] <this> Who cares about the exitnode. It's my ISP that loggs all my connections, which I dislike.
[19:45] <Richhh> most CPU-efficient mainstream browser for an old 2GHz Celeron PC running ubuntu? presumably some old version of Opera. asking because my CPU just overheated running Firefox
[19:45] <[Gentoo]> yeah im just saying, its the exit node operators that get all the abuse
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> This: why do you dislike it?
[19:45] <Anuska> Error: ./default_policy.sh does not support version default:v2:x86_64:lib32::none:3.8.0-34-generic; make sure that the version is being correctly set by --iscurrentdistro :(( when i want to install video ati driver
[19:45] <[Gentoo]> this: but if your isp is that bad cant you change it
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> Anuska: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[19:46] <this> Its the cheapest and I get symmetrical bandwith ;)
[19:46] <dougl> you serious... americans don't have smarties or aero bars?
[19:47] <this> Besides, I don't trust any ISP.
[19:47] <[Gentoo]> i trust mine
[19:47] <ActionParsnip> This: why not?
[19:47] <[Gentoo]> but i dont do anything dodgy
[19:47] <[Gentoo]> not saying you do
[19:47] <[Gentoo]> but why else would you be scared
[19:48] <[Gentoo]> especially in this day where everything seems to track everything
[19:48] <imghost> i think tor encrypt, reencrypt orginal data many times
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> Anuska: if you press CTRL+ALT+T you can run the command there
[19:48] <[Gentoo]> imghost: it does, which is why its the exit that gets the attention
[19:48] <ActionParsnip> dougl: love smarties :-)
[19:48] <SchrodingersScat> imghost: yes, internally, but when it leaves an exit node, if you didn't take precautions like ssl then they can read it.
[19:49] <imghost> and then virual routes??
[19:49] <[Gentoo]> basically you are pretty anonymous with tor
[19:49] <imghost> but how can we scan the trafics?
[19:50] <[Gentoo]> probably better off googling how tor works
[19:50] <imghost> how can we we find the exits node?if original data comes from virtual paths
[19:50] <imghost> genial, sure will do now its intresting
[19:50] <SchrodingersScat> [Gentoo]: and have you seen this? https://blog.torproject.org/blog/five-years-exit-node-operator
[19:50] <[Gentoo]> yes
[19:51] <ActionParsnip> This: are you from Switzerland?
[19:51] <[Gentoo]> SchrodingersScat: thats different from someone using tor as a client
[19:51] <this> Our ISPs log and save all my connections for 6 months. I just dislike that. That is why I use tor. Nothing more nothing less.
[19:51] <this> Switzerland, yes
[19:51] <[Gentoo]> this: its none of our business why you use it..
[19:52] <mourtus_> hello
[19:52] <this> ActionParsnip: Not using tor now.
[19:52] <SchrodingersScat> [Gentoo]: but you were saying something about no one should run exit nodes
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> This: just checking
[19:52] <[Gentoo]> SchrodingersScat: no, no one wants to because of the abuse
[19:52] <mourtus_> i am loking for help
[19:52] <[Gentoo]> SchrodingersScat: of course you can sort of limit with ips / ports for exits
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> This: you still havent said why you dislike it...
[19:52] <[Gentoo]> if you run one
[19:53] <mourtus_> i have a proplme whit my keyboard
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> mourtus_: wassup
[19:53] <[Gentoo]> SchrodingersScat: i block them all and just run as a relay
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> Anuska: you there?
[19:53] <glitsj16> Richhh: try midori or netsurf-gtk
[19:53] <mourtus_> mourtus_: wassup what this mean
[19:54] <[Gentoo]> mourtus_: this is the english channel,
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> mourtus_: what's up? What is up? What is the issue?
[19:54] <mourtus_> ok sorry
[19:55] <mourtus_> some key on the keyboard don't work and i want to changet into an other
[19:55] <[Gentoo]> the keymap?
[19:55] <[Gentoo]> or is it broken hardware
[19:55] <mourtus_> yes it is broken
[19:55] <ActionParsnip> mourtus_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/24916/how-do-i-remap-certain-keys
[19:56] <mourtus_> about 3 keys
[19:56] <this> ActionParsnip: Cause it's no ones buissnes which websites I visit. Just like it's no ones business where I walk or buy my food.
[19:56] <mourtus_> thanks
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> This: so, paranoia then.
[19:56] <imghost> this, are sure using tor is completely safe?
[19:56] <ActionParsnip> This: you been accessing the web long?
[19:57] <onetinsoldier> this: i know what you mean. is it me that's paranoid? or the government's NSA?
[19:57] <this> I already used the net when only univierities and porn where online. So yes, I'm using it for a long time now
[19:58] <onetinsoldier> where's my bailout?
[19:58] <Richhh> thanks glitsj16
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> This: so there wil have been a long time you didnt use tor, right?
[19:59] <MonkeyDust> this  the moment you pay with your card, people know where and what you have been buying
[19:59] <imghost> this,but i think by observing your traffic one cand find you
[19:59] <MonkeyDust> this  Facebook even has your GPS data
[20:00] <imghost> can
[20:00] <this> ActionParsnip: True. But at that time, the ISP dind not log all my connections. Nowadays they do it 'cause the are forcerd to by gouvernment. Times have changed.
[20:00] <glitsj16> Richhh: just test those i'd say, you might loose some functionality compared to firefox if you had add-ons running in that, but if it overheats i don't think you've got many options .. or go really overboard and look into using a terminal browser, goodluck
[20:00] <this> I' dont use Facebook, I use only cash.
[20:00] <this> Paranoid I say.
[20:00] <[Gentoo]> imghost: no, with tor you have to be extra careful with stuff like filling out forms, you dont want to do anything with personal info through tor
[20:00] <ActionParsnip> This: they did, and do. Its to observe criminal actibity
[20:00] <onetinsoldier> this: you sound like me.. cash
[20:00] <[Gentoo]> imghost: it doesnt protect you from that
[20:01] <Anuska> :((((
[20:01] <[Gentoo]> facebook is ridiculous for privacy
[20:01] <onetinsoldier> ActionParsnip: ahhh, so the government's banks got bailed out... and that' not criminal? hahaha
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> this  anything digital you do, leaves traces somewhere, that includes your cell phone
[20:01] <imghost> gentoo, yes :)
[20:01] <this> Don't have a cell phone either. I'm a dinosaur lol!
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> onetinsoldier: no idea of any bailouts personally
[20:02] <[Gentoo]> i read today that facebook logs (although only metadata) messages even partially typed and not sent, i dont use facebook because i never know what policies will change and i dont want my life being recorded
[20:02] <xubz> Hello
[20:02] <xubz> Just 12.3 MB left for OS usage
[20:02] <[Gentoo]> xubz: thats no good
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> [Gentoo]  yes, copied from a buffer, before you even press enter
[20:02] <xubz> Please help in mounting  "/cow" successfully :/
[20:02] <[Gentoo]> xubz: what is it
[20:03] <imghost> is it possible to trace a call that comes from a blocked caller id?
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> This: in short. There are lots of wrblogs right from when you started using the web but you used it uncloaked, you didnt die and nothing bad happened. Why the change?
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> imghost: yes, the connection is still logged
[20:03] <xubz> I'm on a Ubuntu Live OS using usb and persistent storage
[20:03] <this> ActionParsnip: Why the change? Times change.
[20:03] <xubz> Ubuntu is not accepting the "casper -rw" partition as valid
[20:03] <mourtus_> i want to know the information about a key in xev fonction but the key dont work at all there another way
[20:04] <imghost> ActionParsnip, can you tell how can i see it?yesterday i got missed call from my own number
[20:04] <onetinsoldier> ActionParsnip: you might want to find out what a Central Banking is about, and Quantitative Easing(QE) with the world's "reserve currency", but enough  of off-topic for now. we can take it to the off-topic channel if you would like
[20:04] <xubz> Whenever I try to browse the persistent partition, it show me the error - "Could not find "/cow""
[20:04] <[Gentoo]> xubz: sounds like you need a bigger drive
[20:04] <[Gentoo]> i knowi m stating the obvious
[20:04] <xubz> How big?
[20:04]  * Anuska :(((((
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> imghost: its only accessible by the caller or the feds
[20:05] <[Gentoo]> xubz: how big is your usb?
[20:05] <xubz> The persistent partition is 512 MB big
[20:05] <Anuska> hi, i try to install video card ( ati ) on my ubuntu 12.4 and not work :((
[20:05] <[Gentoo]> xubz: thats tiny
[20:05] <xubz> The USB is 8 GB
[20:05] <[Gentoo]> xubz: well youd want at least couple of gb to be safe running
[20:05] <[Gentoo]> if you only have 12mb left
[20:05] <imghost> ActionParsnip, ok :)
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> This: you are fighting nothing. Im fairly sure you arent even sure what you are afraid of :-)
[20:05] <xubz> How to make a runtime partition?
[20:06] <[Gentoo]> xubz: do you have a hard disk in your pc?
[20:06] <mourtus_> i need know the information about a key in xev fonction but the key dont work at all there another way
[20:06] <xubz> Or how to edit that partition to utilize the remaining free space on the USB drive?
[20:06] <ActionParsnip> Xubz: removing old kernels helps free space if that is the issue
[20:06] <xubz> Yes, I have a HDD
[20:06] <onetinsoldier> ActionParsnip: oh, i think he knows
[20:06] <xubz> Two partitions, one has Windows 8, the other is for Sotrage purposes
[20:06] <[Gentoo]> xubz: you'd probably be better of dual booting if its of a decent size and you run another oS
[20:06] <xubz> *Storage
[20:07] <[Gentoo]> xubz: or youll be fighting for free space with that USB forever
[20:07] <xubz> I can only afford a LIVE OS
[20:07] <xubz> Right now
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> Xubz: moving /var, /tmp and /home to a platter based storage can help lengthen the flash storages life
[20:08] <xubz> So, I should move "var", "tmp" and "home" directories to my Storage drive?
[20:08] <[Gentoo]> not literally move
[20:08] <[Gentoo]> or they wont be read
[20:08] <xubz> Then?
[20:08] <xubz> Copy?
[20:08] <[Gentoo]> try fstab mounting them
[20:09] <[Gentoo]> but
[20:09] <[Gentoo]> what a mess
[20:09] <xubz> You'll need to explain me the process
[20:09] <[Gentoo]> lol
[20:09] <xubz> lol
[20:09] <[Gentoo]>  /tmp i wouldnt bother with in normal use thatd take up kilobytes
[20:09] <[Gentoo]>  /home might take some space
[20:09] <[Gentoo]> or make tmp a tmpfs in fstab
[20:10] <this> ActionParsnip: You still didn't get it. Nevermind. Maybe you just have a lesser concept of privacy and freedom than I have.
[20:10] <xubz> I can spare close to 3 GB on my Storage drive for Ubuntu live
[20:10] <onetinsoldier> this: can i msg you?
[20:11] <this> onetinslodier: yes try it. I'll wait and see what happens...
[20:12] <[Gentoo]> xubz: seriously for any comfortable use you'll need another drive with some actual space on it
[20:12] <[Gentoo]> or  a different distro
[20:12] <Anuska> fglrx-installer_8.593-0ubuntu1.diff.gz /  fglrx-installer_8.593-0ubuntu1.dsc / fglrx-installer_8.593-0ubuntu1 _source.changes /  fglrx-installer_8.593.orig.tar.gz i create this fie with sh *.run --buildpkg Ubuntu/source , how i installed on debian or... how i create deb?
[20:12] <xubz> Here's what I'm gonna do, tell me if it can help me
[20:12] <ikonia> Anuska: ask in #debian
[20:12] <[Gentoo]> trying to work around 3gb space for os is so old school
[20:13] <xubz> I'm gonna recreate a Ubuntu Live USB with a bigger persistent storage
[20:13] <Anuska> but is ubuntu
[20:13] <Anuska> sorry :P
[20:13] <Anuska> .deb
[20:13] <ikonia> Anuska: you said debian
[20:13] <imghost> Anuska, first check your graphics cards support switching or not, go and verify it from amd official website
[20:13] <xubz> Gentoo, Ubuntu is used as a temporary OS by me, so I don't care about many apps on it, just the basics
[20:14] <krababbel> How is apt-get working when I install a package without doing 'apt-get update' first? Will it install the newer version or the one in my cache?
[20:15] <Anuska> imghost, :( but support
[20:15] <Kasidel> hi
[20:15] <xubz> What are the different format of virtual drives Ubuntu supports?
[20:15] <LinuxGold_> Kasidel!
[20:15] <LinuxGold_> <--- IntensorPoet
[20:15] <[Gentoo]> xubz: what do you mean
[20:15] <Anuska> imghost, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver RV530/RV560                 Radeon X1600/X1650/X1700
[20:16] <LinuxGold_> Kasidel: what video card are you using?
[20:16] <[Gentoo]> xubz: speaking of virtual, cant you run ubuntu in windows 8 under vortualbox?
[20:16] <[Gentoo]> virtualbox*
[20:16] <Kasidel> GTX 660 sc
[20:16] <[Gentoo]> xubz: that would save you a massive pita
[20:17] <LinuxGold_> kasidel: hold on while I look it up
[20:17] <Kasidel> LinuxGold: Will do
[20:18] <sha0_> hi ppl
[20:18] <imghost> Anuska, you are confused, your graphics card do support open source but did not support proprietary
[20:18] <sha0_> my unbutu's radeon driver is not working
[20:18] <sha0_> gnome doesn't display
[20:18] <Anuska> imghost, :(
[20:18] <sha0_> since last upgrade
[20:18] <imghost> Anuska, so purge fglrx and use default radeon
[20:19] <Anuska> yes i purge
[20:19] <[Gentoo]> on older cards, i think 4800 and below i think kernel ATI driver is better
[20:19] <imghost> Anuska, otherwise kernel will not be able to load any one of them
[20:19] <Anuska> imghost, sudo apt-get remove --purge xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx*
[20:19] <Anuska> and type: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[20:19] <Anuska> ?
[20:19] <sha0_> i'm not using fglrx
[20:20] <sha0_> radeontool -> cannot find ctrl region
[20:20] <sha0_> but the radeon driver is on kernel
[20:20] <LinuGold> trying to figure out a way to enable GeForce in Ubuntu
[20:20] <sha0_> the pc is an all-in-one
[20:21] <dave> oin
[20:21] <dave> halloo
[20:21] <ag-mitglied> wnblvbli
[20:21] <dave> hahahhaha
[20:21] <dave> OMG
[20:21] <Kasidel> Linu:Gold Hmm
[20:21] <ag-mitglied> wer bist
[20:21] <imghost> Anuska, sudo apt-get install mesa-utils, then go to system settings deatils and select graphic to know the name of your open source drive
[20:21] <ag-mitglied> deutschland
[20:21] <Guest75221> hey we are german
[20:22] <sha0_> do you recommend using aptitude instead of apt-get ?
[20:22] <Anuska> imghost, i have this installed
[20:22] <Guest75221> hey germanmusican
[20:22] <sha0_> i have mesa installed
[20:23] <LinuGold> kasidel: can you see "System settings"?
[20:23] <Kasidel> LinuGold: Yes
[20:23] <LinuGold> I mean "system manager"
[20:23] <LinuGold> do a search in "additional driver"
[20:24] <Kasidel> linugold: I dont have system manager. I have system monitor and System settings
[20:24] <LinuGold> system manager, go down and find "Additional driver"
[20:24] <Anuska> imghost, in  graphic is: experience fallback , driver  ( nothing at driver )
[20:24] <Kasidel> linugold: done
[20:25] <LinuGold> did it list GeForce driver at all?
[20:25] <Kasidel> Still searching
[20:25] <imghost> Anuska, whats your issue now?
[20:25] <sha0_> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":1".
[20:25] <sha0_> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig
[20:25] <Anuska> imghost, my drivers for ati radeon 1600/1650
[20:26] <Kasidel> Linugold: No
[20:26] <sha0_> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Heathrow PRO [Radeon HD 7850M/8850M]
[20:26] <LinuGold> hmm
[20:26] <LinuGold> do you see "additional driver" tab on top?
[20:26] <Kasidel> linugold: it says nothing of GeForce
[20:26] <sha0_> Linux Orion 3.11.0-14-generic #21-Ubuntu SMP Tue Nov 12 17:04:55 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:26] <LinuGold> what is listed in that?
[20:26] <Kasidel> linugold: yes
[20:26] <Kasidel> erm
[20:27] <sha0_> what about downgrading ubuntu?
[20:27] <Kasidel> well under the pulldown, it hasmany options concerning the windows size and location. the window itself has 4 graphics driver options
[20:27] <Kasidel> It says I have version 304. there are three others
[20:27] <LinuGold> ok, checking
[20:28] <Kasidel> post release updates for 304, 319, and post release updates for 319
[20:28] <LinuGold> anyone: what is the latest release update for Geforce in Ubuntu?  is it 319?
[20:29] <imghost> Anuska, paste the output of lspci -k
[20:30] <imghost> sha0_, whats you issue of amd?
[20:30] <imghost> sha0_, whats your issue of amd?
[20:30] <Anuska> imghost, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6580160/
[20:32] <imghost> Anuska, "radeon"is your default and is already installed just purge fglrx and nothing else
[20:33] <Anuska> imghost, only sudo apt-get remove --purge xorg-driver-fglrx fglrx* ?
[20:33] <Anuska> and reboot?
[20:33] <imghost> yes
[20:34] <Anuska> X start automated?
[20:34] <FourFire> Hello
[20:34] <geirha> fglrx* should be quoted to avoid shell expansion
[20:34] <nashant> Hey guys. Need a little help with apache. For some reason it's not letting me move my web root. If I use /var/www it works fine, if I use /data/www/%site%/public_html it works not. I've replicated the ownerships and permissions, but still no love. Any ideas?
[20:34] <likylikedat> lol hi
[20:34] <likylikedat> this channel is still here..
[20:35] <FourFire> I am trying to follow this tutorial: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/14054-a-plain-english-guide-to-setting-up-adb-on-linuxubuntu/ and I'm stuck on step #5
[20:35] <likylikedat> i used to come here when i wa 14 years old
[20:35] <FourFire> Im in Ubuntu 12.04
[20:35] <likylikedat> chatting it up with you old folks
[20:35] <likylikedat> i remmeber Adran bazhang_ Pricey
[20:35] <likylikedat> from 5 years ago
[20:35] <FourFire> and I suspect the design of USC has changed since
[20:35] <likylikedat> right in this channel
[20:35] <GetZeeGold> i don't trust anyone over 30, and i'm 50
[20:35] <FourFire> GetZeeGold: why trust young people?
[20:35] <likylikedat> lol GetZeeGold i dont trust anyone over 20!!
[20:36] <GetZeeGold> likylikedat: lol
[20:36] <likylikedat> old people just want money
[20:36] <geirha> nashant: All the directories leading up to the public_html directory must be readable and executable for the apache user as well
[20:36] <likylikedat> it's true
[20:36] <mourtus_> HELLO ENY ONE CAN HELP ME
[20:36] <Pricey> likylikedat: This channel is for ubuntu support only.
[20:36] <GetZeeGold> likylikedat: exactly
[20:36] <likylikedat> ok i just install ubuntu
[20:36] <mourtus_> I HAVE A PROPLEM XHIT MY KEY BOARD
[20:36] <likylikedat> im trying to figure out to use the terminal
[20:36] <ubuntu> OMG I need help please
[20:36] <LinuGold> I'm 42 years old
[20:36] <LinuGold> grr
[20:36] <FourFire> I wouldn't trust myself even if I knew me quite well and I am not yet 20
[20:36] <Guest23006> can someone help me, I installed kali linux in a external drive and by mistake I deleted the grub of ubuntu
[20:37] <Beldar> !ot | FourFire
[20:37] <imghost> !terminal | liklikedat
[20:37] <Guest23006> can someone help me, I installed kali linux in a external drive and by mistake I deleted the grub of ubuntu
[20:37] <GetZeeGold> likylikedat: just an fyi, i'm going back to my normal nick now
[20:37] <Guest23006> now I cannot boot into ubuntu
[20:37] <geirha> !grub | Guest23006
[20:37] <Beldar> Guest23006, Use the bootrepair app.
[20:37] <FourFire> Beldar how would step #5 of http://rootzwiki.com/topic/14054-a-plain-english-guide-to-setting-up-adb-on-linuxubuntu/ be properly executed using 12.04 LTS version of software center?
[20:38] <likylikedat> hey man lets not go off topic,  or we'll get banned. like i got banned for going off topic in defocus
[20:38] <Guest23006> I tried to use the boot repair
[20:38] <Guest23006> but nothing happens
[20:38] <Guest23006> I receive some errors
[20:38] <onetinsoldier> likylikedat: roger that
[20:38] <DongMaster> Guest, you probably shouldn't be using Kali if you accidentally deleted grub lol...
[20:38] <Guest23006> like, mount dev/sda1  lookis
[20:38] <Beldar> Guest23006, You save the bootinfo summary?
[20:38] <Guest23006> and an error appears with the word lookis
[20:38] <Guest23006> it appears an error at the end
[20:38] <Guest23006> I couldnt save it
[20:39] <Guest23006> if you want I can start the boot repair again
[20:39] <Guest23006> with your help
[20:39] <david__> hello everybody! hola a todos!
[20:39] <onetinsoldier> hello david__
[20:39] <Beldar> Guest23006, here is the original boootinfo script run it and pastebin the info. http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[20:39] <Guest23006> I can still accessing the linux harddrive with this live cd
[20:40] <Guest23006> what I want to rescue
[20:40] <Guest23006> is the bookmarks of my firefox and chrome browser
[20:40] <Guest23006> that is the only thing I need
[20:40] <Guest23006> if you could help to rescue that I will be more than welcome
[20:41] <Beldar> Guest23006, You can just grab the .mozilla file and use it again and have the same setup, chrome is probably the same grab the .config folder as well.
[20:41] <FourFire> Beldar I'm in the (All software (canonical partners)) tab and all there is there is Adobe Reader
[20:41] <Guest23006> I cant it says
[20:41] <Guest23006> that I dont have permission
[20:41] <Beldar> Guest23006, from what?
[20:41] <Guest23006> to copy the file .mozilla
[20:42] <Beldar> Guest23006, accessing how?
[20:42] <Guest23006> like when I try to  cp /"hardrive"/.mozilla
[20:42] <Beldar> kali, ubuntu live cd?
[20:43] <Guest23006> I guess is maybe because it is encrypt it
[20:43] <ucenik> is there some easy way to change mouse cursor in 12.04
[20:43] <Beldar> Guest23006, ah encrypted, not sure there.
[20:43] <Guest23006> I am like getting into panic
[20:43] <Guest23006> no sorry isnot encrypted but
[20:44] <Guest23006> it says that I do not have permission
[20:44] <ucenik> !sudo
[20:44] <Beldar> Guest23006, So lets use nicks here, and can you answer questions?
[20:44] <onetinsoldier> Guest23006: are you using a command prompt to do this work?
[20:44] <Guest23006> yes
[20:44] <Guest23006> look I get this
[20:44] <Beldar> !who | Guest23006
[20:45] <Guest23006> file:///home/ubuntu/Desktop/Screenshot%20from%202013-12-15%2020:44:55.png
[20:45] <Guest23006> beldar it is not encrypted
[20:45] <david__> anybody can install skype for ubuntu? I try but the access icon is not in install apli
[20:45] <Guest23006> beldar here is a picture of what is going on
[20:45] <Guest23006> file:///home/ubuntu/Desktop/Screenshot%20from%202013-12-15%2020:44:55.png
[20:45] <bekks> Guest23006: we dont have access to your home folder. upload the picture somewhere.
[20:46] <DongMaster> omfg lmfao
[20:46] <Guest23006> can you give me a site to upload the pic ?
[20:46] <ucenik> tinypic
[20:46] <onetinsoldier> Guest23006: what's the output of? --> ls -ld /"hardrive"/.mozilla
[20:47] <ucenik> can someone tell me how to change mouse cursor in ubuntu 12.04 and that doesnt involve mastering kernel programming?
[20:47] <Guest23006> it says
[20:47] <Anuska> Hi, i put teamviewer to run when i log in , but every time give me: please start the daemon  before running team viewer : teamviewer --daemon start ? how i resole this?
[20:47] <jhutchins> ucenik: THat's usualy part of the desktop theme.
[20:47] <Beldar> !language | DongMaster no swearing no acronyms
[20:47] <bekks> ucenik: changing the mouse pointer has nothing to do with kernel programming. it has something to do with "select a new desktop theme".
[20:47] <SchrodingersScat> ucenik: you don't have a mouse setting in your settings?
[20:47] <Guest23006> cp: omitting directory `/media/ubuntu/89ac251e-17c6-4c47-b17b-1ebb03a61149/home/etje/.mozilla'
[20:47] <Guest23006> that is what it says onetinsoldier
[20:48] <Guest23006> cp /media/ubuntu/89ac251e-17c6-4c47-b17b-1ebb03a61149/home/etje/.mozilla /home/
[20:48] <Guest23006> and that is the cp I entered
[20:48] <ucenik> jhutchins,  Schrodinger`Cat  no i cant find that settings, or how to edit theme in any way
[20:48] <david__> also for upload image you have http://www.subirimagenes.com/
[20:48] <SchrodingersScat> Guest23006: so it's a permissions problem right? because you're in a liveCD?
[20:49] <Guest23006> yes
[20:49] <jhutchins> ucenik: Do you know if you're running unity or gnome?
[20:49] <ucenik> im running unity 2D, as far as i know
[20:49] <SchrodingersScat> Guest23006: i'm not an expert, but i would then try to cp it with sudo, then change the owner to your owner, etc.
[20:49] <Guest23006> how can I do that ?
[20:49] <nashant> geirha: ah, right
[20:49] <nashant> good point
[20:50] <jhutchins> cp doesn't copy recursively by default.
[20:50] <jhutchins> man cp
[20:50] <onetinsoldier> Guest23006: sudo cp /media/ubuntu/89ac251e-17c6-4c47-b17b-1ebb03a61149/home/etje/.mozilla /home/
[20:50] <ucenik> bekks, i dotn want to change whole theme just to change to random mouse pointer.
[20:50] <Guest23006> that is what I have done
[20:50] <Guest23006> but nothing
[20:50] <ucenik> jhutchins,  i am in unity 2d
[20:50] <SchrodingersScat> Guest23006: nothing? not even an error? then it worked?
[20:51] <Guest23006> this is the error
[20:51] <onetinsoldier> Guest23006: what jhutchins said... so  sudo cp -R /media/ubuntu/89ac251e-17c6-4c47-b17b-1ebb03a61149/home/etje/.mozilla /home/
[20:51] <Guest23006> cp: omitting directory `/media/ubuntu/89ac251e-17c6-4c47-b17b-1ebb03a61149/home/etje/.mozilla'
[20:51] <ucenik> i know older versions had theme and mouse tweaking. gcursour doesnt do anything
[20:51] <SchrodingersScat> Guest23006: oh, right, -R recursive add the -R
[20:51] <Guest23006> what -R stand for ?
[20:52] <SchrodingersScat> Guest23006: -R, -r, --recursive <--in the man pages 'man cp'
[20:52] <Guest23006> not I try to open firefox and I get
[20:52] <Guest23006> your firefox profile cannot be loaded. it may be missing or inaccessible
[20:53] <ucenik> Guest23006,  what exactly you want to do?
[20:53] <SchrodingersScat> Guest23006: sudo chown -R ubuntu:ubuntu ~/.mozilla # maybe?
[20:53] <FourFire> Ok, nevermind, I figured it out for myself
[20:53] <Guest23006> like I thought you said that I need to copy .mozilla to home and then open firefox so I can export the bookmarks
[20:54] <onetinsoldier> Guest23006: after doing the  recursive copy, you will probably need to change the ownership of the copied .mozilla directory and all the file within itto that of you new/current user
[20:54] <ucenik> arent your bookmarks stored in folder that you can access from live cd?
[20:54] <Beldar> Guest23006, You can just use the whole file
[20:54] <intrader> glitsj16: perhaps running gnome will do it; what do you think/
[20:54] <Guest23006> yes but how
[20:54] <SchrodingersScat> i think that's the default user of liveOS anyway...
[20:54] <Guest23006> I am not an expert
[20:54] <Guest23006> my bookmarks are stored in the harddrive which I deleted the grub by mistake
[20:55] <Guest23006> but I can still accesing the files
[20:55] <SchrodingersScat> Guest23006: sudo chown -R $(whoami):$(whoami) ~/.mozilla # maybe?
[20:55] <ucenik> you can restore grub
[20:55] <Beldar> Guest23006, If FF is installed delete the one there and use this folder, if this is to kali it is root I believe so may not be the same is all.
[20:55] <Guest23006> nothing schrodingerscat
[20:55] <Guest23006> I receive nothing
[20:55] <bekks> Guest23006: that command doesnt return anything.
[20:55] <Guest23006> Im using ubuntu live cd
[20:55] <SchrodingersScat> Guest23006: and reopening firefox did nothing?
[20:55] <Guest23006> not bekks
[20:55] <Guest23006> yes it is still appearing
[20:56] <Guest23006> your firefox profile cannot be loaded. it may be missing or inaccessible
[20:56] <Guest23006> when I try to open it
[20:56] <onetinsoldier> you closed firefox and reopened it?
[20:56] <ucenik> http://www.supergrubdisk.org/super-grub2-disk/ Guest23006  and log in into your installation.
[20:56] <Guest23006> yes sir
[20:56] <onetinsoldier> after the 'chown' command?
[20:56] <SchrodingersScat> Guest23006: I would check the folder then, see if you can learn anything, like look at the permissions and owner. also check that you didn't accidentally copy a .mozilla folder into your .mozilla folder.
[20:56] <onetinsoldier> okay
[20:57] <Guest23006> I checked but nothing
[20:57] <Loth> hi
[20:57] <onetinsoldier> Loth: hello
[20:57] <Loth> How stop like spam? http://nedman.fsdascmcvmqgdjhfserha.info/antvrs/#
[20:57] <glitsj16> intrader: well, you can try another desktop environment, but i'd go for something less taxing on the GPU, so i'm not sure if gnome-shell would be an improvement .. try xfce or lxde i'd say ... but in general there's something fundamentally off with your gpu, untill you succeed in tracking that down i believe the overheating issue will keep re-appearing
[20:57] <nashant> Hey guys. Need a little help with apache. For some reason it's not letting me move my web root. If I use /var/www it works fine, if I use /data/www/%site%/public_html it works not. I've replicated the ownerships and permissions, and the full path is executable by the apache user. but still no love. Any ideas?
[20:57] <bekks> Guest23006: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profiles-where-firefox-stores-user-data
[20:58] <Guest23006> I receive
[20:58] <Guest23006> you do not have the permission necessary to view the contents of ".mozilla"
[20:58] <Guest23006> when I try to open the file I copied
[20:58] <Madkiss> ActionParsnip: what on earth are you talking about?
[20:58] <Guest23006> I mean I love ubuntu but I am dying slowly here
[20:58] <Loth> Im in chromium + adblock but he no stop this adv http://nedman.fsdascmcvmqgdjhfserha.info/antvrs/#
[20:59] <Guest23006> I just need the bookmarks :S
[20:59] <Loth> why?
[20:59] <glitsj16> intrader: or try the fallback options from the login manager when you log out, depending on your exact ubuntu version there should be something like unity-2d or named similar
[20:59] <bekks> Guest23006: then look at the /media/ubuntu/..... location, to find your bookmarks.
[20:59] <jhutchins> Guest23006: So fix the permissions.
[20:59] <Madkiss> ActionParsnip: I mean http://releases.ubuntu.com/saucy/ubuntu-13.10-desktop-amd64+mac.iso
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> Guest23006: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER ~/.mozilla
[20:59] <intrader> glitsj16: nouveau must be using it also - I wish it had the sensor for gpu temp
[20:59] <Guest23006> where it says
[20:59] <ActionParsnip> Madkiss: grab the amd64 ISO and it will work, you dont need the mac bit
[20:59] <Guest23006> $user $user
[20:59] <Guest23006> do I change something ?
[20:59] <Beldar> Loth, use the noscript variation.
[20:59] <glitsj16> intrader: that last option doesn't need anything newly installed and should show if that changes anything pretty much immediately
[21:00] <Guest23006> how do I fix the permission ?
[21:00] <bekks> Guest23006: you replace it with your actual username you are currently using.
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> Guest23006: run the command as I gave it, it will work
[21:00] <bekks> ah ok.
[21:00] <Guest23006> I did
[21:00] <Guest23006> but nothing happen brother
[21:00] <glitsj16> intrader: what does the 'sensors' command output? paste that somewhere if you want
[21:00] <Madkiss> ActionParsnip: I just did that, and got to exactly the same place I had been to before
[21:00] <ActionParsnip> Bekks: no need, $USER is your username of the person running command. Try: echo $USER
[21:01] <onetinsoldier> Guest23006: ls -ld .mozilla    ...what do you get?
[21:01] <bekks> ActionParsnip: sudo echo $USER would be more interesting :)
[21:01] <Madkiss> ActionParsnip: I get a warning that the installation couldn't install grun, and then I get redirected into the Grub menu
[21:01] <jhutchins> Notice the difference between $user and $USER
[21:01] <Madkiss> which tells me it can not find its configuration file
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> Madkiss: could boot to liveCD, chroot to the installed OS and manually install Grub to the MBR
[21:01] <intrader> glitsj16: about the 'A' option: grep: option requires an argument -- 'A'
[21:01] <Madkiss> ActionParsnip: what would be the MBR target?
[21:02] <Guest23006> okay when I do ls -ld .mozilla
[21:02] <Guest23006> I get
[21:02] <Guest23006> d--------- 4 ubuntu ubuntu 80 Dec 15 19:24 .mozilla
[21:02] <Guest23006> that it is what I get
[21:02] <Beldar> Loth, clear your cookies and history, that link is blocked in noscript here.
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> Madkiss /dev/sda is common, whatever your drive is called
[21:02] <onetinsoldier> Guest23006: ahh-ha!
[21:02] <Guest23006> :) did find something ?
[21:02] <onetinsoldier> yes
[21:02] <Guest23006> heureca ?
[21:03] <glitsj16> intrader: is that from the 'sudo lspci -k | egrep 'VGA|use' | grep VGA -A 1' command? the 1 is the argument..
[21:03] <Guest23006> nice
[21:03] <onetinsoldier> Guest23006: chmod ug+rw .mozilla
[21:03] <intrader> glitsj16: ah, lol, I mmissed it
[21:03] <onetinsoldier> Guest23006: oops
[21:03] <onetinsoldier> Guest23006: chmod ug+rwx .mozilla
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> Bekks: why? Sudo uses your user's profile so sudo echo $USER will output the same as echo $USER
[21:03] <glitsj16> intrader: no worries
[21:04] <ucenik> can someone tell me how to change mouse theme in ubuntu 12.04 unity2D? coz i cant find it and everything i find on internet includes terminal
[21:04] <Madkiss> ActionParsnip: grub-install /dev/sda doesn't work and returns "can not install grub"
[21:04] <onetinsoldier> Guest23006: then close out firefox and try again
[21:04] <ucenik> but i want to use comicsand cursors for lefthand
[21:04] <Guest23006> ;p;
[21:04] <Guest23006> lol
[21:04] <Guest23006> onetinsoldier
[21:04] <onetinsoldier> hehe
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> Madkiss: is the internal drive /dev/sad ?
[21:04] <Guest23006> you are the boss maaaaan
[21:05] <onetinsoldier> Guest23006: cheers. enjoy
[21:05] <intrader> glitsj16: ah, lol, I mmissed it; without the last grep I can also see it - the list is not too long
[21:05] <Guest23006> onetinsoldier
[21:05] <Guest23006> can I ask you something
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> Guest23006: permissions are important, as are owners.
[21:05] <Guest23006> can you explain me what did happen ?
[21:05] <Guest23006> and what was the problem ?
[21:05] <Madkiss> ActionParsnip: sda is the flash drive, yes.
[21:05] <Guest23006> thank you actionparnsip for your help too
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> Guest23006: the folder had nobody allowed to access it so the Firefox process couldnt launch
[21:06] <Guest23006> ouh okay
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> Madkiss: is there any protection on it in a hardware sense?
[21:06] <Guest23006> what a shame
[21:06] <glitsj16> intrader: what does 'ls -lh /usr/share/xsessions/' output? that should give me a clue on what other sessiàon you might try
[21:06] <Guest23006> can you explain me what then chmod ug+rwx .mozilla
[21:06] <Guest23006> did ?
[21:06] <glitsj16> *session
[21:06] <Guest23006> to .mozilla ?
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> Guest23006: not hard to fix
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> Guest23006: firefox, not mozila
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> Guest23006: read: man chmod
[21:07] <intrader> glitsj16: thanks for your help; I keep on searching for gpu overheating problem on lenovo t61p
[21:07] <Madkiss> ActionParsnip: I don't think so.
[21:07] <Guest23006> thank you
[21:07] <Guest23006> one question more
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> Madkiss: if you chroot from liveCD and get updated, does it help?
[21:07] <david__> Guest23006 chmod 777
[21:07] <glitsj16> intrader: yes i've tried looking with that t61p as well but nothing usefull yet
[21:07] <Guest23006> everything is cooll
[21:08] <Guest23006> but I can still not find the firefox bookmarks
[21:08] <bekks> david__: chmod ug+rwx is 770 not 777.
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> david__: please do the community a favour and never advise 777
[21:08] <Guest23006> david
[21:08] <Guest23006> what you trying to say
[21:08] <Guest23006> explain me
[21:08] <Guest23006> chmod 777 ?
[21:08] <Guest23006> what does it mean ?
[21:08] <FloodBot1> Guest23006: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:08] <david__> sorry
[21:08] <bekks> Guest23006: No. Dont run that.
[21:09] <Guest23006> a okay  but  just for interest
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> Guest23006: the web will tell you. Its very simple
[21:09] <bekks> Guest23006: It is explained in "man chmod".
[21:09] <Guest23006> what does it mean
[21:09] <Guest23006> a okay
[21:09] <Guest23006> that is okay
[21:09] <david__> the permision user and group is 770
[21:09] <Guest23006> but now I cannot find the firefox bookmark
[21:10] <david__> in order to fin you can more commands
[21:10] <onetinsoldier> Guest23006: it means that it made the directory , readable, writeable, and executable, for the "owner" and "group" of the directory
[21:11] <ucenik> http://askubuntu.com/questions/218450/firefox-bookmarks-in-the-ubuntu-files-system
[21:11] <Guest23006> that is perfect
[21:11] <Guest23006> thank you I already understand
[21:11] <onetinsoldier> Guest23006: okay, cool
[21:11] <Guest23006> now that we gained access to .mozilla
[21:11] <Guest23006> I would like to know where the bookmarks are stored ?
[21:12] <bekks> Guest23006: Please read the link given.
[21:12] <onetinsoldier> i think in a .json file?
[21:12] <bekks> Guest23006: http://askubuntu.com/questions/218450/firefox-bookmarks-in-the-ubuntu-files-system
[21:12] <bekks> onetinsoldier: No, it is an xml most likely, no json.
[21:12] <onetinsoldier> bekks: okay, thank you
[21:12] <ucenik> :(
[21:13] <ActionParsnip> Could switch to Chrome, all bookmarks stored on the cloud. Easys
[21:13] <onetinsoldier> onetinsoldier@pikes-peak:~/.mozilla$ find -name *.json -print
[21:13] <onetinsoldier> ./firefox/lm4vx022.default/bookmarkbackups/bookmarks-2013-12-13_10.json
[21:14] <bekks> onetinsoldier: "The bookmarks are actually stored in bookmarks.html if you just want that."
[21:14] <onetinsoldier> lloks like it could be .json files to me. i had a number of them. they have the word "bookmarks" as part of the filename
[21:14] <ActionParsnip> onetinsoldier: could use -iname instead, no case sensitivity then :-)
[21:14] <bekks> onetinsoldier: Those json files are backups.
[21:14] <onetinsoldier> bekks: roger. when you back them up using firefox, you are given a choice, as .json or as html
[21:15] <glitsj16> intrader: there's a very nice tool to share information on IRC called pastebinit, if you install that you could provide the channel with the url you get after use .. eases the communication here .. i'm interested in some outputs to get you to have gpu temp readings at least, and to advise on other session options .. take your time and tell me if you have that installed
[21:15] <onetinsoldier> bekks: i have backed them up  using firefox before and selected .json... and then used the  .json file to restore in a brand new install. just sayin'
[21:16] <glitsj16> !pastebinit | intrader
[21:16] <darsho> i just installed ubuntu but it doesnt seem to shut down my laptop can someone please help me
[21:16] <onetinsoldier> the one thing i know for certain is, that i know nothing at all
[21:16] <Anuska> hi, i use ddclient and when i reboot the sistem give me some messange to add ddclinet in daemon....
[21:16] <ActionParsnip> Darsho: if you run: sudo shutdown -h now ,does it power off ok?
[21:17] <Anuska> run_daemon=”true”
[21:17] <darsho> no it doesnt
[21:17] <ucenik> i want to use custom mouse theme that i downloaded but i cant find in settings how to just change mouse theme. ubuntu 12.04 unity 2D
[21:17] <darkelfjuggalo> Could someone remind me how to uninstall an application
[21:17] <ActionParsnip> Darsho: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[21:17] <ucenik> darkelfjuggalo, open ubuntu software center and click on installed
[21:18] <darsho> im new to linux how would i check
[21:18] <darkelfjuggalo> ucenik ; Command line
[21:18] <Guest23006> OMG
[21:18] <ActionParsnip> Darsho: press CTRL+ALT+T and run it there
[21:18] <Guest23006> I only have .json files
[21:18] <onetinsoldier> darkelfjuggalo: what was it installed by? you mean "dpkg --remove <package>  ?
[21:18] <Guest23006> not .html files
[21:18] <Guest23006> bookmarks
[21:19] <ucenik> darkelfjuggalo, "sudo apt-get remove" i think, but not sure
[21:19] <darkelfjuggalo> I installed it command line from repository [Command line is easer than the software center for me, it freezes on me too much]
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> ucenik: tried using unity tweak tool
[21:20] <onetinsoldier> darkelfjuggalo: try..  sudo dpkg --remove <package_name>
[21:20] <ucenik> Guest23006, copy those json files, login into real installation, and then from there google how to use json files. thats how i resolved similar problem
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> Darsho: what is the output please?
[21:22] <darkelfjuggalo> but the really odd thing is, when Software center is working says the program isn't installed but I have theprogram running
[21:22] <SteveBell1> hi all. having issues configuring samba under ubuntu
[21:23] <SteveBell1> I managed to setup a sharing folder via terminal
[21:23] <SteveBell1> but can't get the ex hdd setup correctly
[21:23] <david_hm94> Hey?
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> Stevebell1: is the external partition NTFS by any chance?
[21:24] <SteveBell1> Hi ActionParsnip no it's ext 4 or 3 but ext for sure
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> Stevebell1 ok good that makes things a whole lot wasier
[21:24] <Guest23006> ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ chmod ug+rwx .mozilla
[21:24] <Guest23006> chmod: changing permissions of `.mozilla': Operation not permitted
[21:24] <ucenik> ActionParsnip, can you suggest a way to install proper version of unity tweak tool for ubuntu 12.04
[21:25] <ucenik> also, my head is starting to hurt and i wanna curse at people who made it so hard to do something as simple as changing mouse theme
[21:25] <Guest23006> ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ chmod ug+rwx .mozilla
[21:25] <Guest23006> chmod: changing permissions of `.mozilla': Operation not permitted
[21:25] <Guest23006> I get this :S
[21:25] <Guest23006> now
[21:25] <SteveBell1> 13.10 here. and says samba (gui) is installed but does not show under software. when I enter samba in dash and select programs I see the samba gui but when clicking on that ubuntu software center opens
[21:26] <nashant> I've just run htop and it looks like I've got 7 apache processes running. 1 as root and 6 as www. Does this sound right?
[21:26] <koell> i never understand those ppl changing their mouse theme. doesnt matter
[21:26] <onetinsoldier> ucenik: been a long time since I installed a downloaded mouse cursor theme. i have done it before, but it was a lot of headache before i finally achieved success, so i kinda know what you mean. however, it is free software. you  could always code a new user-friendly method! ;-)
[21:26] <SteveBell1> I can then select to install but install does not begin nor finish
[21:28] <aisey> Hi, how to switch ( settings ) ext graphic/ inter. graphic
[21:28] <ucenik> onetinsoldier true, but how with all the stuff done with linux and ubuntu people who code stuff cant make a simple official way to change mouse theme
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> Ucenik: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tualatrix/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-tweak
[21:28] <glitsj16> nashant: looks normal yes, it gets that information from /etc/apache2/apache2.conf --> StartServers, Min/MaxSpareServers and the like to let you configure your apache to accomodate your traffic use
[21:29] <ucenik> also, im lefthanded and i wanna use my right to complain because of discrimination :p even microsoft had nice left had cursors easy to install
[21:29] <intrader> glitsj16: thanks for your help; got a lot from 'gpu overheating problem on lenovo t61p' - I wich it had intel graphics
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> Stevebell1: you can use nautilus to share folders
[21:29] <paul__> Is 10.04 outdated?
[21:29] <intrader> glitsj16: I don't quite understand why Windows XP on same machine does not overheat!
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> paul__: it is not supported on the desktop. It is only supported on the server
[21:30] <paul__> I have a lexmark printer that works with the driver for 10.04 but not 12.04
[21:30] <paul__> why do I keep getting occasional updates with 10.04?
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> paul__: are there any bugs reported?
[21:30] <glitsj16> intrader: nice, me neither .. that's why i think you need to make a bug report on it
[21:30] <onetinsoldier> ucenik: there is actually a linux way to change it that's all set up and not too awful hard once you know it, but installing one is another matter
[21:30] <paul__> no how can I report the bug?
[21:30] <nashant> glitsj16: The I'm at a complete loss as to why I can't change my web root then
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> Paul__: things on the server which are also in the desktop will get updates
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> paul__: run: ubuntu-bug cups
[21:31] <SteveBell1> ActionParsnip: here's where I'm at: I managed to setup the smb.conf so I now have a folder which I can access from both osx and ubuntu. yey :) - but now I need to setup the ex hdd. any idea how to deal with that?
[21:31] <paul__> why do I run that?
[21:31] <paul__> where do I run that?
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> Stevebell1: then share the folder just like the one you already shared, the method is identical
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> paul__: in a terminal.....
[21:32] <paul__> ubuntu-bug cups
[21:33] <SteveBell1> ActionParsnip: well that would give anybody full read write access to the entire ex hdd not sure if that is ideal
[21:33] <paul__> is anyone going to care about the driver not being supported in 12.04?
[21:33] <onetinsoldier> ucenik: update-alternatives --config x-cursor-theme
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> Stevebell1: the mounted us drive will mount to a folder, share that folder.
[21:33] <SteveBell1> so maybe allowing registered users only would be smart
[21:33] <nashant> glitsj16 (or anyone): can you see any problems with this VHost? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7978473
[21:33] <ucenik> onetinsoldier, something as simple should not require any terminal or indepth knowlage
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> Stevebell1: you can use samba passwords to grant the access you want
[21:34] <SteveBell1> yes but I'm totally unsure which part of the smb.conf what needs to be adjusted
[21:34] <ucenik> ActionParsnip, i think i made it, i will log off and on to see if its changed
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> Stevebell1: sudo smbpasswd -a username ,you can then add lines to smb.conf to give rad only, fulll or zero access to a share
[21:34] <gregor3005> hi, does anybody use a wiimote with 13.10? when i try to pair with wminput i saw a entry in the log but wminput doesn't close and i cant use the device. i get this line: "input: Nintendo Wiimote as /devices/virtual/input/input25"
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> SteveBell1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6580428
[21:36] <Rask01> join /C++
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> SteveBell1: see how I deny and grant access :-)
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> SteveBell1: valid users, invalid users
[21:37] <darsho> i tried shutdown -h now and ubuntu doesnt shut down
[21:37] <nashant> glitsj16: and error.log https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7978511
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> darsho: i thought you said it didnt work, why are you reporting it again?
[21:37] <glitsj16> nashant: looks ok, i think you need to take a look at permissions for the stuff you marked as "Not working" ..
[21:37] <gregor3005> normally it should create a device /dev/input/js* as i had it with my ps3 controller (replica)
[21:38] <darsho> h ow can i fix this
[21:38] <glitsj16> nashant: perhaps use http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2185429&highlight=apache+virtual+host+non-default+documentroot as a guide
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> Darsho: will you answer my question please? I asked you if the command worked and you said no, then now you are just saying you tried it. Which is it?
[21:40] <glitsj16> nashant: and try asking in #apache, much more knowledgeable people there for your specific issue
[21:40] <darsho> the crtl alt t brought the terminal up
[21:40] <nashant> glitsj16: I think it's #httpd, and it's dead in there
[21:40] <darsho> and the shut down command u gave me didnt work
[21:40] <nashant> I tried already
[21:41] <glitsj16> nashant: okay, so have you looked at your permissions on those /data/www/... directories and files?
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> Darsho: then why did you need to test it? When i asked you you said 'no' like you'd already tried it. Now. Did you already try it or did you say 'no' to something else?
[21:42] <darsho> i just tried it when u told me
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> Darsho: does the system have a make and model?
[21:42] <nashant> glitsj16: Yup. all apart from /data (ant:www) are owned by www:www, all directories are 775
[21:43] <darsho> dell lattitude d620
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> darsho: do you have the latest BIOS?
[21:43] <darsho> not too sure
[21:44] <ucenik> ActionParsnip,  onetinsoldier it changed just for programs that i launch, like firefox or xchat, but not for desktop
[21:44] <darsho> how can i find out
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> Ucenik: log off and on
[21:44] <MonkeyDust> darsho  what was your first question?
[21:44] <ucenik> i did
[21:44] <ucenik> but i will again
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> Darsho: sudo dmidecode -t 1 ,will show the current BIOS version
[21:45] <glitsj16> nashant: i can't give you anything usefull in that case, looks ok from what i can tell .. patience and retry to ask here until someone more knowledgeable chimes in
[21:45] <onetinsoldier> i think he might need to restart X
[21:46] <nashant> glitsj16: Cheers for trying. I really don't bloody get it
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> Darsho: http://www.linlap.com/dell_latitude_d630 note the video section
[21:47] <darsho> when i ran that command it said key words i typed bios
[21:47] <zamba> i'm trying to connect through serial port.. i've tried with both screen and miniterm.py.. miniterm.py reports: could not open port '/dev/ttyS0': Could not configure port: (5, 'Input/output error')
[21:47] <zamba> what's wrong here?
[21:47] <darsho> no command bio s found
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> Darsho: why? The command is: sudo dmidecode -t 1
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> Darsho: why are you not running what I advise? I gave the EXACT command....
[21:48] <darsho> ok i got it
[21:48] <Guest72408> should i use aptitude or apg-get?
[21:48] <onetinsoldier> i like aptitude.. but they both work
[21:48] <onetinsoldier> there's also 'wajig'
[21:48] <darsho> version not specified
[21:48] <onetinsoldier> !info wajig
[21:49] <darsho> 2.12
[21:49] <Guest72408> interesting
[21:49] <darsho> thats what it says
[21:49] <Guest72408> i will use aptitude
[21:49] <darsho> 2.4 present
[21:49] <onetinsoldier> cool
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> Darsho: why did you run a command different to the one I gave you?
[21:51] <darsho> no i ran the command
[21:51] <darsho> now what am looking for
[21:51] <darsho> pls help im new and i love ubuntu
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> Darsho: then how did you generate the error 'no command bios found'?
[21:52] <darsho> i put l instead of 1
[21:52] <darsho> but i made a  mastake
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> Darsho: exactly so its not the command I gave was it?
[21:52] <darsho> i got the command right this time
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> Darsho: did you read the link I gave earlier..?
[21:53] <darsho> let me scroll up i must of missed it
[21:55] <mourtus> hello i have i probleme whit my keyboard some keys don't work i google the keymap but i dosent understan it
[21:55] <mourtus> eny help
[21:56] <mourtus> plz
[21:56] <mourtus> i want to writ html code but i need the less and greaterthan key
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> Darsho: http://www.linlap.com/dell_latitude_d630
[22:01] <darsho> d620 not d30
[22:01] <darsho> not sure what i have to do
[22:02] <darsho> do i have to configure my video card
[22:03] <phenom> Lets say you buy something within ubuntu software center, numix dark theme for example. If you install it,, will it ever dial out for authentication?
[22:04] <darsho> do i have to fix my 915 resoultion
[22:09] <SteveBell1> I got more samba issues under ubuntu: trying to setup a user now with sudo smbpasswd -a steve, get asked for new pw twice but then it says "Failed to add entry for user steve." hmm
[22:09] <pvl1> something keeps resseting my java path variables... and i cant figure out what
[22:09] <prx> hey, i just installed KDE by running 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop' - seems like its finished, do i need to reboot or what?
[22:10] <xangua> Logout login prx
[22:10] <prx> kthx
[22:10] <squee_> prx - logout and then login with that desktop
[22:10] <prx> ok, and i was burning a CD and it freezed, probably installed KDE caused it?
[22:11] <prx> oh no look its back to burning :)
[22:12] <prx> thanks
[22:12] <glitsj16> intrader: i found a bug report that looks very similar to your issue at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/751689 .. wish i could say there's an easy fix, but there doesn't seem to be one (yet) .. at least changing some bios settings can work for some setups, maybe you can go over it and see what you can work with .. succes mate
[22:13] <al__la> Hey all, quick question. Fresh 13.10 install, went to Google+ and upon pop-up, installed web app.  Once installed, the launcher icon is a gray question mark.  Searching dash shows blank file icon.  Clicking launcher takes me to correct though.  I purged unity-webapps-googleplus, re-installed and still same problem.  This happens for all of my web apps, but other programs seem fine.  Another symptom: no web apps have integrated into messaging
[22:13] <al__la>  notification (other programs like xchat can).  Any ideas?
[22:14] <darsho> actionparnip
[22:16] <squee_> I have a question about something... when I log out or shut down, I notice that there is always the picture of some program I had been running earlier that pops up. Almost like a screenshot. What is this?
[22:17] <onetinsoldier> squee_: a buffer i think
[22:17] <onetinsoldier> squee_: you get a quick look at some buffered memory
[22:17] <squee_> that's what I figured
[22:17] <onetinsoldier> ya
[22:19] <SteveBell1> I got more samba issues under ubuntu: trying to setup a user now with sudo smbpasswd -a steve, get asked for new pw twice but then it says "Failed to add entry for user steve." anybody anyidea?
[22:19] <mourtus> there is a chanel for beginers
[22:19] <compdoc> is there a user named steve?
[22:20] <SteveBell1> compdoc: no not yet. I was about to create that or does that not work that way?
[22:20] <compdoc> smbpasswd is for samba
[22:20] <mourtus> hello eny help for a keyboard probleme
[22:21] <SteveBell1> compdoc: so do I understand that I need to use the username that is used on the machine on which samba is running?
[22:22] <darsho> i need somehelp ubuntu is not shutting down
[22:22] <darsho> someone was helping me then left
[22:23] <squee_> ...sudo shutdown doesn't work?
[22:23] <darsho> no
[22:23] <bekks> darsho: sudo shutdown -h now
[22:23] <bekks> that will help ;)
[22:23] <darsho> doesnt work
[22:23] <squee_> what does/doesn't happen?
[22:24] <Sebastien> Any ideas why i get this error while trying to install from CD: http://puu.sh/5NSLZ.png
[22:24] <Sebastien> well, burned dvd
[22:24] <darsho> it just says ubuntu and thats all doesnt shut down
[22:24] <darsho> http://www.linlap.com/dell_latitude_d620
[22:24] <bekks> Sebastien: Thats wubi. It isnt compatible with Windows 8. Never ever use Wubi.
[22:24] <Calinou> Sebastien, don't use wubi
[22:24] <darsho> some guy pointed me to this sit but now sure what to do
[22:24] <Calinou> it is not supported
[22:25] <bekks> darsho: What happens when you type "sudo shutdown -h now" in a terminal?
[22:25] <Sebastien> bekks, Calinou. its not "wubi" its the download file the ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-i386.iso i burned on a DVD
[22:26] <Sebastien> how can it be outdated if its the main download link on the site, this makes no sense to me.
[22:26] <darsho> it just says ubuntu the dots go white and it just stays on that screen
[22:26] <bekks> Sebastien: And you are using the windows ubuntu installer called wubi.
[22:26] <Sebastien> well, i put in the cd, and i click RUN
[22:26] <bekks> Sebastien: Thats wubi then. It isnt supported.
[22:26] <Sebastien> HOW AM I SUPPOSE TO INSTALLI IT THEN!
[22:26] <bekks> Sebastien: Boot your computer from that cd.
[22:26] <Sebastien> om :x
[22:26] <Sebastien> ill try
[22:31] <bekks> 5
[22:31] <darsho>  when i turn on my ocmputer is says something like hit m for a manual recovery not sure if that it the problem
[22:32] <HeathHayle> Has anyone in here used macbuntu!
[22:32] <HeathHayle> ?
[22:32] <bekks> !anyone | HeathHayle
[22:33] <HeathHayle> How do I install macbunu menu on my nonpxe install?
[22:34] <Guest23006> have someone here made a dual booting in a external HDD ???
[22:35] <trijntje> Guest23006: yes
[22:35] <Guest23006> can you please help me bro ?
[22:35] <Guest23006> I got some question
[22:36] <ddsss_> does anyone know when Ubuntu's owncloud  package gonna get updated to 6.0.0a?
[22:37] <trijntje> Guest23006: if you ask your questions here, anyone can help you ;)
[22:37] <ST0RMHAWK> I'm running ubuntu 12.04, my friend has windows 7 and I want to screw with him a little... I have his ip address, is there any way I could maybe send a message to him that pops up in cmd prompt like net_send would?
[22:37] <Guest23006> okay ,, the question is how did you do it
[22:37] <Guest23006> because when I tried, I installed ubuntu and kali linux
[22:37] <trijntje> ddsss_: in general apps only get upgraded with a new version of ubuntu
[22:37] <Guest23006> I installed ubuntu first
[22:37] <Guest23006> and then kali
[22:38] <Guest23006> after when I reboot
[22:38] <FloodBot1> Guest23006: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:38] <Guest23006> I only see the kali grub
[22:38] <trijntje> Guest23006: sounds like something went wrong with the install of kali, so you'd have to ask them
[22:39] <Guest23006> ask them who ?
[22:39] <xangua> ddsss_: use the ppa own cloud mentions on it's Sir
[22:39] <xangua> Site
[22:40] <trijntje> Guest23006: I mean ask support from kali, I've never heard of that distribution so I cant help you with that
[22:40] <ddsss_> xangua, do you use their ppa?
[22:40] <Guest23006> lol, it will take long to get an answer
[22:40] <xangua> ddsss_: no
[22:40] <ddsss_> xangua, do u uyse owncloud?
[22:40] <xangua> ddsss_: no
[22:40] <Guest23006> I just would like to know how did you get it working the dual boot in a external hdd
[22:41] <darsho>      will i guess u guys are bussy
[22:41] <darsho> maybe  i will come back another day
[22:41] <ddsss_> xangua, I've tried their ppa - it seems to break things though.
[22:42] <alex8022> hey everyone, I have ubuntu installed as a guest in virtualbox, and i'm trying to install virtualbox-guest-x11 so that my display will resize when I increase the size of the virtualbox window. When I run apt-get install virtualbox-guest-x11, I get the error here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6580737/ . Does anyone know why this isn't working or how to fix it?
[22:42] <trijntje> Guest23006: did you install ubuntu or kali on the external hd?
[22:43] <xangua> ddsss_: then contact to their ppa  manteiners
[22:43] <Guest23006> yes
[22:43] <Guest23006> kali
[22:44] <ddsss_> xangua, yeah - I guess Ill do that then.
[22:44] <Icehawk78> I just got a new hard drive, and was wondering, what's the best/easiest way to copy my system over from my old one to my new one?
[22:44] <ST0RMHAWK> I have my friends ip and he's running windows, is there anyway I can send him a message or something I need to get his attention somehow, any ideas?
[22:44] <onetinsoldier> alex8022: try the following command and tell me if you  get anything back from it --> dpkg -l | grep ^ih
[22:44] <trijntje> Icehawk78: check out clonezilla, you can run it from a live cd/usb
[22:45] <trijntje> Guest23006: try running sudo update-grub in kali
[22:45] <Icehawk78> trijntje: Is there anything that doesn't require a live cd/usb? I can find one if needed, but I don't have one yet
[22:45] <trijntje> ST0RMHAWK: try facebook ;)
[22:46] <ST0RMHAWK> right well thats why I want to get his attention so he will check his messages
[22:46] <ST0RMHAWK> he's sitting there watch movies
[22:46] <alex8022> onetinsoldier: ran that command, didn't return anything
[22:46] <trijntje> Icehawk78: I don't think its possible to move a running system from one HD to another, so you'll always have to use a live system
[22:46] <onetinsoldier> alex8022: hmmm. try --> sudo  agt-get -f install
[22:46] <onetinsoldier> oops
[22:46] <onetinsoldier> alex8022: hmmm. try --> sudo apt-get -f install
[22:48] <alex8022> onetinsoldier: ok, that command shows a couple packages that are no longer required, but didn't do anything
[22:48] <onetinsoldier> alex8022: i might have had the first one a little backwards. i;m not sure.... you could try,   dpkg -l | grep ^hi
[22:48] <alex8022> onetinsoldier: still no return
[22:49] <onetinsoldier> alex8022: i don't know really. try one more thing if you  want,    sudo aptitude install virtualbox-guest-x11
[22:50] <onetinsoldier> alex8022: you might not have aptitude installed
[22:50] <alex8022> ya, installing it now..
[22:51] <onetinsoldier> alex8022: cool
[22:51] <xangua> !aptitude
[22:51] <Ben64> why aptitude?
[22:51] <onetinsoldier> alex8022: it has a pretty resolver, that resolves package issue a lot of the  time
[22:51] <Ben64> actually, as it says above, can cause more problems
[22:52] <onetinsoldier> Ben64: you can always say 'N' if you don't like what it offers. anyway, i love aptitude and use it almost exclusively, but  to each his own
[22:54] <onetinsoldier> what i mean is... you can always say 'N' if you don't like what it offers up as a solution
[22:54] <Ben64> same thing with apt-get, except with less problems
[22:54] <onetinsoldier> roger
[22:56] <amir_> hi
[22:56] <alex8022> ok, so tried the aptitude command, it found conflicts.  The recommended action includes removing ubuntu-desktop, xorg, and a bunch of xserver packages... that seems like it would make things worse..
[22:57] <onetinsoldier> alex8022: say N to that
[22:57] <alex8022> ya, i did
[22:57] <onetinsoldier> alex8022: or whatever to reject that solution. but it should give you some insight maybe
[22:58] <Ben64> alex8022: pastebin the output of this command... "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[23:00] <alex8022> ok, here it is: paste.ubuntu.com/6580794/ .  It looks like everything went normally and is up to date.
[23:00] <onetinsoldier> alex8022: new updates got installed?
[23:00] <alex8022> no, already up to date
[23:00] <onetinsoldier> ahh, roger that
[23:01] <alex8022> its a new vm image, just made it yesterday, did clean install, apt-get update upgrade dist-upgrade, added nginx so far, and trying to get virtualbox-guest working correctly
[23:01] <onetinsoldier> alex8022: you have any ppa's in your system?
[23:01] <alex8022> just the default ones, haven't added any
[23:01] <onetinsoldier> okay
[23:02] <xangua> Why are backport repositories enabled by default in Ubuntu?
[23:02] <Ben64> wait you are trying to install vbox in a vm?
[23:03] <phunyguy> Argh.... 12.04 keeps assuming /dev/sda as device to install grub to!!!
[23:03] <alex8022> the guest additions package, ya
[23:03] <phunyguy> Why does it keep doing that????
[23:03] <Ben64> use vbox to install those?
[23:04] <Ben64> the installer phunyguy?
[23:04] <phunyguy> Ben64, yes, and sorry, meant that for #ubuntu-server, but I guess it can't hurt to ask here
[23:05] <Ben64> well thats the first drive where you'd normally be booting from
[23:05] <phunyguy> I selected /dev/sdd as the device to install to, but it still wants to choose /dev/sda as grub location.
[23:05] <alex8022> ya, tried that too.  My problem is that when I resize the virtualbox window, I get a bunch of white space in the window, and the display doesn't change size
[23:05] <phunyguy> Ben64, in the OS, once booted, that drive IS /dev/sda
[23:05] <phunyguy> just in the installer, it is /dev/sdd for some reason.
[23:05] <trijntje> phunyguy: it does? I thought they fixed that, but maybe not for the lts. You can still manually change that during installation iirc
[23:06] <Ben64> maybe ask the vbox channel then, alex8022
[23:06] <phunyguy> trijntje, any idea where?
[23:06] <phunyguy> I found no such option
[23:06] <alex8022> is that #vbox?
[23:06] <Ben64> i think so
[23:06] <trijntje> phunyguy: I know its there in the graphical installer, not sure about the text one
[23:06] <phunyguy> :(
[23:06] <Shirakawasuna> I'm looking to install ubuntu (or maybe debian, but preferably ubuntu) on 10-20 servers, with the hope of building a small cluster (and also run a website off one of them). I'm having trouble figuring out my best option for installing to a bunch of machines at once and then managing them - ubuntu has this maas thing, there's also FAI (fully automated installation), things like cobbler, etc - I'm not sure what's really the 'be
[23:06] <Shirakawasuna> st' modern way to do this.
[23:07] <Shirakawasuna> anyone have suggestions or opinions? I appreciate any feedback.
[23:07] <phunyguy> I will just try to disable the other drives, but the other issue is, it sometimes assumes /dev/sda is the USB stick
[23:07] <MonkeyDust> Shirakawasuna  better ask in #ubuntu-server, i guess
[23:08] <Shirakawasuna> MonkeyDust: good idea
[23:10] <al__la> Hey all, quick question. Fresh 13.10 install, went to Google+ and upon pop-up, installed web app. Once installed, the launcher icon is a gray question mark.  Searching dash shows blank file icon. Clicking launcher takes me to correct though. I purged unity-webapps-googleplus, re-installed and still same problem. This happens for all of my web apps, but other programs seem fine. Another symptom: no web apps have integrated into messaging noti
[23:10] <al__la> fication (other programs like xchat can). Ideas on what's wrong?
[23:14] <shagelito> Greetings #ubuntu ! So i donwloaded Debian. I made the dumb choice to mix repo in sources.list with kali ones. I had a lib related problem, so i went on #debian to seek help. Then i have been told that i was actualy runing a Kali distro. So i removed Kali stuff in sources.list. apt-get update + apt-get upgrade + apt-get dit-upgrade. Now, when i do a uname -a, the prompt tells me : Linux Hal 3.8.0-19-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Wed Apr 
[23:14] <phunyguy> kali is ubuntu based
[23:14] <phunyguy> no?
[23:14] <coventry> If someone with a Mac wants to share their screen with me, is there a port they can reverse-forward ("ssh -R") to me which I can then connect to with Remote Desktop?
[23:17] <michagogo|cloud> phunyguy: Nah, it's a Debian-based distro
[23:17] <michagogo|cloud> phunyguy: It's the successor to Backtrack, which is a modified Ubuntu
[23:17] <phunyguy> ahhh... maybe that was backtrack
[23:17] <phunyguy> ahh.
[23:18] <smaudet> phunyguy, a lot of the Ubuntu based derivatives decided to go it alone and use Debian instead
[23:18] <michagogo|cloud> phunyguy: http://www.kali.org/news/kali-linux-whats-new/
[23:19] <chaotix> hey all...  i am thinking of purchasing this laptop, but before i do, i wanted to know if i will have any problems installing and using ubuntu linux on it...
[23:19] <chaotix> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/15-6-laptop-4gb-memory-320gb-hard-drive/9424061.p?id=1219016114601&skuId=9424061&st=categoryid$pcmcat247400050000&cp=1&lp=6
[23:19] <daftykins> lets see
[23:19] <daftykins> have you googled the model name to check?
[23:20] <shagelito> whats weird is that i keep having this ugly kali splash screen despite what uname -a returns
[23:20] <Ben64> shagelito: we support only ubuntu here. not debian, not kali
[23:20] <ikonia> shagelito: how is this anything to do with #ubuntu ?
[23:21] <shagelito> even if uname -a give me a ubuntu answer ?
[23:21] <Ben64> correct
[23:21] <daftykins> chaotix: there's no detail of what the wifi adapter is, so it's hard to say ahead of time. a celeron based one won't be the fastest either, but it'll run
[23:21] <chaotix> daftykins, thaqnks...  lol i dont know why i didnt do that first
[23:21] <chaotix> i guess i didnt think it would be that easy
[23:21] <shagelito> thks anyway then
[23:22] <Ben64> shagelito: i'd imagine neither debian or kali help channels would want to touch your frankensystem either
[23:23] <Ivanov> Heyfolks
[23:23] <Ivanov> got a question about installing linux
[23:23] <chaotix> so i should hopefully be fine...  from what i have read, as long as i disable secure boot i should be able to install any distro i want
[23:23] <Ivanov> i am on a different distro and trying to switch to Ubuntu
[23:23] <Ivanov> but i can't seem to install it either off my flash drive or from the hard disk using the iso
[23:23] <phunyguy> Ivanov, ask... and please try to keep it in a single line
[23:24] <Ivanov> yeah sorry, basically, i can't seem to make it work off my usb drive no matter what i try
[23:24] <chaotix> i havn't bought a brand new laptop in a long time, but i have installed ubuntu on a few machines, and  i never seeem to have driver problems
[23:24] <chaotix> fingers crossed
[23:24] <debiansarmy> Hello
[23:24] <chaotix> :)
[23:24] <chaotix> bye
[23:25] <phunyguy> Ivanov, an error message that you get would help immensely. :)
[23:25] <Ivanov> i dont get an error message sadly
[23:25] <Ivanov> it just doesnt boot off the usb, it sits there with the flashing underscore waiting forever
[23:26] <Ivanov> i end up unplugging USB after 10 minutes, restarting into SteamOS and trying again
[23:26] <debiansarmy> 
[23:27] <debiansarmy> 
[23:28] <debiansarmy> 4,1
[23:28] <Ben64> debiansarmy: do you have an ubuntu support question?
[23:29] <debiansarmy> Ben64 sorry on android phone messing with androidirc settings.
[23:30] <Ben64> debiansarmy: please do that elsewhere
[23:31] <debiansarmy> Just hit couple wrong buttons hope its not showing in forum!
[23:31] <debiansarmy> 
[23:32] <debiansarmy> Help
[23:33] <ikonia> debiansarmy: you know it is
[23:33] <debiansarmy> Talk later! Settings are driving me nuts!
[23:33] <ikonia> debiansarmy: you've been told it is - stop it
[23:34] <Ivanov> do i have to do something special to make my usb drive boot? i followed the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/amd64/boot-usb-files.html
[23:35] <adamjames> i am trying to get an atheros usb wifi adapter working on 12.04. it has chipset AR5523, i have searched the web and followed the guides that seem to have worked for other folks. lsusb shows the device but no firmware. i have copied the firmware to /lib/firmware and done modprobe ar5523 and still no luck. can anyone help me get this going?
[23:36] <adamjames> i know its odd for wifi on the server machine. i have a device that connects only over wifi that i would like to use with this machine
[23:36] <Beldar> Ivanov, Kinda old method, what happens when you try to boot it?
[23:36] <Ivanov> Beldar, it just sits and does nothing, i end up waiting too long, unplugging USB and booting back into my other distro
[23:37] <Ivanov> i just want to wipe everything out and put Ubuntu on D:
[23:37] <Ivanov> but have no DVDs/CDs to burn on
[23:37] <Makkzor> hello hello, anyone professional enough to tell me what ports are needed on a 4G usb modem to access internet? i suspect DHCP and DNS. thnkx.
[23:37] <Beldar> Ivanov, does nothing means what, do you see a blinking cursor, black screen?
[23:37] <james__> Any way I can setup a mouse stroke recording macro?
[23:37] <james__> newbie question but, well im a newbie
[23:37] <Ivanov> Beldar, right on the nose
[23:38] <Beldar> Ivanov, Not a big deal D means nothing here we deal with partitions, use this, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[23:39] <glitsj16> adamjames: http://askubuntu.com/questions/280242/how-to-install-ar5523-chipset-wifi-in-ubuntu-12-04 might be worth a look if you haven't already
[23:39] <Ivanov> i will look
[23:39] <james__> I'm trying to record and replay my mouse gestures and clicks, is there a program or do I need to script it?
[23:39] <Ivanov> beldar, oh, i dont get a black screen like that, i just get the static blinking cursor
[23:41] <Beldar> Ivanov, try the nomodeset boot, if your getting the first gui of try or install, or check memory hit f6 and choose nomodeset.
[23:41] <james__> Can I get some help?
[23:41] <Ivanov> beldar, nope im not even getting that far
[23:41] <Ivanov> beldar, it just doesnt even want to boot off the USB, it sits on blinking cursor forever and goes nowhere
[23:42] <bitbyte_> Hey guys just installed sick beard and using it command line any ideas on navigation never come across the python interface before
[23:42] <Beldar> Ivanov, What OS do you have to load the usb?
[23:42] <Ivanov> beldar, best considered Debian wheezy, but technically it's SteamOS 1.0 beta
[23:44] <theinterrobanger> howdy ... I'm having some issues with mongodb, which I may possibly be an issue with a faulty volume group, but I'm not sure, and I'm not sure how to troubleshoot any further
[23:44] <Beldar> Ivanov, use this app it works nicely and will show the first gui if needed, and check the sum of the iso as well. http://liveusb.info/dotclear/
[23:44] <theinterrobanger> running ubuntu server 13.03
[23:45] <theinterrobanger> oops .04
[23:45] <Beldar> Ivanov, I assume you can load it to debian
[23:46] <Ivanov> Beldar, im on my debian/steamos here to be on IRC so yes
[23:46] <Ivanov> though im not surew hat this site says, will have to translate
[23:47] <Beldar> Ivanov, Generally I use a gui usb loader, however ubuntu can be dd'd
[23:50] <Beldar> Ivanov, The site will show it in many languages so turn off any flash block or add remove to get that option.
[23:51] <Beldar> addblock*
[23:51] <Ivanov> i dont have any
[23:51] <Ivanov> this is a few-hour-old install
[23:52] <Ivanov> but i figured google translate out already
[23:52] <onetinsoldier> join #ubuntuoff-topic
[23:52] <Beldar> onetinsoldier, /join
[23:52] <onetinsoldier> oops
[23:52] <onetinsoldier> yeah, i know
[23:52] <Beldar> hehe
[23:52] <onetinsoldier> thanks
[23:52] <onetinsoldier> hehe
[23:53] <Ivanov> though i cant seem to find a download still
[23:54] <Beldar> Ivanov, it is on a second page, here is another link. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[23:54] <Ivanov> thanks
[23:55] <theinterrobanger> actually, it's definitely an lvm issue ... pvdisplay gives me this:
[23:55] <theinterrobanger> read failed after 0 of 4096 at 4432985055232: Input/output error
[23:58] <adamjames> glitsj16: thats where i started and searched around from there. thanks for the response.
[23:58] <glitsj16> adamjames: no biggie, does that mean it still doesn't work ?
[23:58] <adamjames> glitsj16: no, still doesnt work