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Quintasanapachelogger: I has 0.8.1-1ubuntu3.200:29
Quintasanand it works00:29
Quintasanas in, doesn't crash when I plug in a mouse00:29
Quintasanreported and changed tags00:33
QuintasanI even tried repeatedly replugging the mouse to see it it crashes but it didn't00:33
apacheloggerxnox: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1261251 thoughts would be appreciated01:28
ubottuUbuntu bug 1261251 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity-dm doesn't have access to /dev/dri because of missing loginctl session" [Low,New]01:28
apacheloggerQuintasan: hoorayz01:28
soeesomeone fixed 4.12 for saucy :)01:39
apacheloggerQuintasan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/akonadi/+bug/124597901:42
ubottuUbuntu bug 1245979 in akonadi (Ubuntu) "After Upgrade to Kubuntu 13.10 akondai fails to register at d-bus session, making kde-pim suit unusable" [Undecided,Confirmed]01:42
apacheloggerQuintasan: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32648001:42
ubottuKDE bug 326480 in server "Akonadi fails to start" [Normal,Confirmed]01:42
apacheloggersoee: it was broken?01:42
soeeapachelogger: 2 packages faild to build from what iv seen earlier01:43
apacheloggeraha01:44
apacheloggertwo new whoopsie non-dev/QA cards in case someone wants some low hanging fruit01:53
Quintasanapachelogger: I can't get used to this damn Trello thing02:06
apacheloggeradd some stamps, they help02:07
QuintasanStamps?02:08
apacheloggerstickers they are called actually02:10
apacheloggeroh you can't use stickers, you are njo admin02:10
apacheloggertough luck :P02:10
QuintasanI don't even know what the hell does that do02:11
QuintasanAnyways, anyone is working on the ufw-kde package?02:11
apacheloggerit adds a sticker02:11
apacheloggerhttps://trello.com/b/4zyxwgRP/14-04-documentation02:11
apacheloggerthe documentation l10n card has a sticker02:11
apacheloggerit makes the card 100% more sticky02:11
apacheloggerQuintasan: https://trello.com/c/OUuTZcud assigned and in doing so yes02:12
apacheloggeryou could however ask ovidiu-florin whether he let's you join :P02:12
Quintasanovidiu-florin: You are no asleep, are you?02:12
apacheloggernormal people are sleeping at this ungodly hour02:14
apacheloggertwo new non-dev QA cards in case someone wants to do something in that area02:14
QuintasanUnexpectedly I have to agree with you right away on that02:14
Quintasanholy shit02:20
Quintasanno wonder I still didn't finish sddm02:20
QuintasanIt's a totaly debian/copyright hell02:21
Quintasantotal*02:21
* apachelogger copyrights Quintasan02:21
* Quintasan slaps WTFPLv2 sticker onto apachelogger's forehead02:22
* Quintasan throws bricks at apachelogger02:22
QuintasanWell, that covers "do what the fuck you want" about right02:22
Quintasan:P02:22
apacheloggeralso covers "concerningly rude behavior"02:23
* Quintasan patches up apachelogger02:24
Quintasankubotu: order beer for apachelogger02:24
* kubotu gives apachelogger a nice frosty mug of beer.02:24
Quintasanvirtual beer for a virtual brick02:24
QuintasanI won't throw real bricks at you but I can give you beer next time we shall meet02:25
apacheloggerkubotu: order whisky02:25
* kubotu throws a mighty fine glass of Balvenie Doublewood at apachelogger.02:25
kubotuWhat are ye looking at?02:25
* apachelogger waves fist at kubotu02:25
apacheloggerkubotu: got a problem mate?02:25
Quintasankubotu should respond with "No, sir."02:25
apacheloggerI am reasonable certain that scottish bots don't say no sir02:26
apacheloggerthe correct response would be /msg chanserv op $chan /kick $nick02:27
Quintasanhmm02:27
Quintasan+102:27
Quintasanapachelogger: Y'know, I think this bot is going to be a damn huge box of surprise instead of being a bot02:27
apacheloggerdat sounds dirty02:28
QuintasanThe type of box that you kick instead of opening and when you do so it opens up and kicks you back but with iron shoes.02:28
apacheloggerso, I actually wrote a plugin that allows one to use a bot to control the music played by $hostOfBot02:28
apacheloggerno one using it unfortunately02:28
Quintasankubotu: next track02:28
apacheloggernot kubotu02:28
Quintasanwhich one?02:29
apacheloggerwrote that the barca office and Riddell because apparently no one likes Riddell's sleepy music :P02:29
apachelogger*for the02:29
Quintasanlel02:29
QuintasanActually what the hell does Riddell listen to?02:29
apacheloggerrammstein02:29
QuintasanWhat.02:30
Quintasan>sleepy music02:30
apacheloggeractually that sounds wrong02:30
Quintasan>Rammstein02:30
QuintasanI know you are not sane but that's a different story.02:30
apacheloggertranditional scottish music http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXatLOWjr-k02:30
apacheloggeractually not sleep enough, you really have to wait for JR to answer02:30
apacheloggermore of the soothing background music anyway02:31
Quintasan>Why Does It Always Rain On Me?02:31
QuintasanI see what you did there.02:31
apacheloggerI peronsally like me some serious bass when doing haxx0ring02:31
apacheloggerQuintasan: actually you should look dat up on wikipedia, I think that song has some reasonable backstory02:32
QuintasanHell, looking at my playlist I can't figure what I like.02:32
Quintasan>He wanted to go somewhere sunny because in his hometown of Glasgow it rained all the time. In an interview at the Live 8 concert, he explained that he was spending a short holiday in the southern vacation city of Eilat in the middle of the winter.[1] The city is known for its hot weather even during winter time, but surprisingly it began to rain for two days during his stay.02:32
apacheloggerwas something like he went on vacation to somewhere in the middle east where it not ever rains or something and it rained for the two days he was there02:32
Quintasanwow02:32
Quintasanoh wow02:32
Quintasan>When Travis started to perform this song at the 1999 Glastonbury Festival, after being sunny for several hours, it began to rain exactly when the first line was sung.02:32
QuintasanJUST WOW02:32
apacheloggeryeah02:32
apacheloggerplus it's a nice tune IMO02:33
QuintasanHOW DO YOU EVEN GET HATED BY RAIN SO MUCH02:33
apacheloggerxD02:33
Quintasanmy playlist02:35
Quintasan>classical music02:35
Quintasan>metal02:35
Quintasan>rock02:35
Quintasan>game ost02:35
Quintasan>game ost02:35
Quintasan>metal02:35
Quintasan>more rock02:35
Quintasan>mooooooooooooore classical music02:35
Quintasanseriously02:35
apacheloggerI think you just like to have noise :P02:36
QuintasanI generally listen to classical music now02:37
QuintasanI used to spam metal and rock02:38
apachelogger<- never managed to listen to tha metal02:38
apacheloggermakes me all sorts of -.-02:38
apacheloggerwell, going to leave you with some more traditional scottish music and head to bed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM0sTNtWDiI :P02:39
Quintasanapachelogger: Night02:40
manchickenYES! I finally got Krazy2 working.03:22
manchickenAnybody good with cmake interested in reviewing my cmake diffs?03:23
manchickenapachelogger: ping04:02
Mirvshadeslayer: I haven't done git builds for some while, only from tarballs05:28
NoskcajIs there any reason we don't syn the ktp stuff other than no one has the time?06:57
valorieNoskcaj: is it on the list of 'stuff to do'?07:00
valorielike ninjas, or the trello?07:00
Noskcajidk. I know very little about the workings of kde07:00
valorieok, i'll look for you07:00
valoriektp=?07:01
Noskcajabout 15 things on merges.ubuntu.com07:01
valorieok, I see those07:03
valorieon http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kubuntu-buildstatus/kubuntu-buildstatus.html I see a lot of green for ktp, but that doesn't talk about versioning07:05
Noskcajdebian has the same version, but it would be better to sync when possible07:07
valoriedebian merges are being postponed for the most part though07:07
valoriethat isn't a KDE thing, that's us07:07
valoriebecause so many changes are coming soon, it was felt it would be more work than it's worth07:07
Noskcajok07:07
valoriewhether that affects ktp* dunno07:08
valoriebut after the first of the year, I assume the pace will pick up07:08
valorietrello is sort hard to search, but an overview of 13.10 and 14.04 boards doesn't mention ktp to my non-devel eyes07:09
valorieso I will assume it falls with the rest of the postponed merges 07:10
valorieif there is a reason to get them done now rather than later, please write to the kubuntu-devel list, and I'll bet someone will pick that up07:11
NoskcajI could try and do the merges if someone wants, i've got nothing to do and it's annoying having that many things coming up on MoM for no real reason07:15
valorieif you know how, we can always use the help!07:17
valorieNoskcaj: all the links are up in the /topic07:18
valorieI seem to be the only person awake, but i'm rather useless for questions except what you've already asked07:19
Noskcajok, thanks for the help07:20
valoriethank YOU07:20
valorieI love it when people walk up and offer to help07:21
NoskcajWhat should my username and password for http://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas be?07:23
NoskcajNow i'm going to have to wait for my pc to unfreeze from compiling stuff07:38
valorieNoskcaj: you'll have to create a login to Identity07:41
valoriehttp://identity.kde.org07:41
valoriewith your realname07:41
valoriethat same login can be used almost everywhere in KDE07:41
valorienote that you can have a different login name than realname07:42
valorieand your realname is only revealed if you explicitly allow it07:42
Noskcajvalorie, Turns out i'd already made sync bugs for most of them, but all were ignored because of a tarball issue because debian make their tarballs from git08:04
valorieinteresting08:05
valoriethat doesn't seem like debian!08:05
valoriealways so cautious08:06
Noskcajfrom a upstream release tracker in the pkg-kde git. Just as safe, but annoying for us08:09
NoskcajRiddell, PING. Any chance you could go through the ktp stuff and sync/fakesync most of it?08:10
lordievaderGood morning.08:39
maximusnu update kde KDE SC 4.11.4 for kubuntu 12.04?09:02
maximusno09:02
maximuswho knows something about?09:04
lordievadermaximus: Isn't it in the Kubuntu-backports?09:04
maximusno09:04
maximusthis the reason i'm asking about this problem09:05
lordievaderOh right, 4.11.3. Guess the devs haven't uploaded 4.11.4 yet.09:05
Riddellmaximus: I'm waiting for 4.11.3 to get into -updates before looking at 4.11.409:05
maximusafter 2 weeks?09:06
Riddelluh huh09:06
maximussoon will be here 4.11.509:07
Riddellmaximus: are you after something in paticular or are you just wainting to be 0.0.1 better?09:08
maximus4.11.4 works better09:08
RiddellQuintasan: should ktp just synced from debian?09:09
maximusi have it in solydk09:09
maximusbut i need it also in kubuntu 12.0409:09
Riddellwhat is solydk ?09:10
maximushttp://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=solydxk09:10
valorieinteresting, http://solydxk.com/homeedition/solydk/09:11
xnoxapachelogger: commented, incomplete.09:11
valoriemoar debian09:11
maximusthis the first time i have to wait 2 weeks for kde updates09:12
maximusit is a shame for kubuntu09:12
maximusone week it's enough09:12
valoriemaximus: have you thought about helping out?09:13
valorieour crew is working as fast and hard as they can09:13
maximuswe speak about updates. what work? to put them in backports? till now they solved this problem in days not in weeks09:15
valorietesting, for starters09:15
maximusthe team from solydk made this work in 2 days09:15
valoriewe don't just package stuff up and throw it out there for users to test, unless they are alpha or beta releases09:16
valoriebut i don't want to fight09:16
maximusok thanks. i know that the backports are empty09:16
valorieI'm just saying, if a job is easy and quick, they get it done quickly09:17
valorienobody slacking here09:17
maximuseverything works good with this new release. to test something it takes 2-3 days. kde makes a very good work09:17
Riddellnice to meet your downstreams09:20
valorieso what he was saying was: do it quickly, so I can get mine done quickly?09:22
valorieI sense a certain air of tapping of the quirt on his riding boot09:23
* valorie gets out the bullwhip just in case09:23
RiddellI wonder what solydxk does that kubuntu doesn't09:24
valoriesounds like they just build off of debian, so dunno09:29
valorieand maybe use LTS kub. packages?09:29
valoriepfff09:29
valoriehttp://userbase.kde.org/Amarok/Manual/Playlist/SavedPlaylists09:30
valoriemaybe09:30
Riddellit is always nice to hear of another downstream but would be nicer to be introduced when not being blamed09:31
valorielet me export a playlist and put it in my dropbox for ya09:31
valorieoops, wrong channel for that, sorry09:31
valorieRiddell: indeed09:31
Riddell"In November 2012 Linux Mint took the decision not to maintain a KDE version of LMDE and to stop maintaining the Xfce version.[4] SolydXK was started with emphasis on the two desktop environments."09:31
Riddellaah so it could be seen as being a new Linux Mint KDE09:31
Mamarokgah who was that guy?09:43
valorieMaximus from the Gladiator film!09:45
apacheloggerRiddell: so it's a derivate of a derivate of a derivate?10:39
apacheloggerrather fancy10:39
apacheloggercome to think of it, how/why does something based on LMDE use our packages? Oo10:40
apacheloggerman dat distrowatch is useless as a metric10:42
unicodesnowmanapachelogger: distrowatch's 'popularity' metric is more accurately their Google SEO ranking for each distro page10:49
apacheloggernew python qt/kde programming card for minor fixes to usb-creator (also lowhanging fruit)10:50
apacheloggerunicodesnowman: yeah10:50
apacheloggerit's mighty pointless, that's what it is10:50
unicodesnowmanit would actually be (slightly) useful if they calculated useragents 10:51
apacheloggerhow so?10:54
unicodesnowmanas in instead of the most visitors to a page, it uses useragents of visitors of the site to determine popularity 11:11
apacheloggerunicodesnowman: metrics would still be skewed because the majority of users will not ever go to such a site unless it shows up as one of the first hits in a very generic linuxy search11:25
apacheloggerthat being said the only units capable of producing reliable metrics on intertubes-using-linux-machines would be the search sites themselves11:26
unicodesnowmanbut people using privacy focused distros might not connect to the internet / use a particular search engine. it's quite difficult, if not impossible to get non-secrewed data11:27
apacheloggerRiddell, shadeslayer: didn't we fix startkde not workign on trusty?11:29
RiddellI don't know :(11:31
apacheloggerhm11:34
apacheloggerapparenlty stuff is running, I just get nothing but a cursor11:35
apacheloggerOo11:35
apacheloggermy 13.10 iso says 12.04 in the installer12:01
apacheloggerOo12:01
apacheloggermaybe there is a bug in usb-creator12:02
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apacheloggeragateau: http://i.imgur.com/Al3gVM0.png12:55
apacheloggerwidth works in .1012:55
apacheloggerbut I think the slideshow shouldn't scale down12:55
apacheloggershoudl be a fixed size frame thingy IMHO12:55
apacheloggerotherwise as we can see the icon of the slide is too far away from the text12:56
agateauyou mean the kubuntu logo at the bottom right in your screenshot?12:56
apacheloggeryes12:57
apacheloggerI think we should put fixed size constraints on the slideshows (as implicitly was the case previously/in other flavors)12:58
agateauthe problem is: if we don't fill the height then the truncated blurry reflection will look odd there12:58
apacheloggerand so it does not look silly maybe paint a sunk qframe with white background or somesuch nonesense12:58
apacheloggeragateau: TBH the reflection always looked odd to me ;)12:58
apacheloggeralso qframe+background may help with the oddness12:59
agateauI would agree with you, but only if we can fix the slideshow images to not have cropped parts12:59
agateauI am not fond of using a frame12:59
apacheloggerjust give it a try please :P12:59
apacheloggerbut yeah, we have cards to revise slideshow nonsense already12:59
apacheloggermight as well change the icons as part of those12:59
manchickenapachelogger: Howdy :)13:01
manchickenDid you understand what I meant about the size of my change?13:01
manchickenhttps://github.com/manchicken/libqapt/blob/master/ChangeLog13:02
apacheloggerahoy, you mean spaceships!13:03
manchickenAt least shuttles.13:03
apacheloggermanchicken: poke apol on #kde-devel what he prefers13:03
apacheloggersome people also like to use reviewboard for huge ass diffs because of the commenting feature etc.13:03
manchickenI am completely unaware of the review boad.13:05
manchickenboard even13:05
manchickenI know it's a thing, but I've never worked with it before.13:05
apacheloggerbasically git diff, upload to git.reviewboard.kde.org and fill out the review information (target branch, people to review etc.)13:05
manchickenIt seems like everybody is saying that's the route I should take, so I'm working in that direction. Right now I'm more worried about whittling down the list of items I'm going to have pop out so I can save everybody some time.13:06
manchickenAlso, if everybody thinks these changes are a bad idea, it'd be good to get that out of the way sooner rather than later :)13:06
manchickenThat's cool13:06
manchickenThat seems very similar to what we do with bzr merge requests.13:07
BluesKajHey folks13:07
manchickenapachelogger: shadeslayer also seems like an interested party. He seems to be doing some Qt5 porting work.13:08
manchickenBluesKaj: Hiya13:08
apacheloggermanchicken: simply add him to the reviewers then ;)13:09
BluesKajhi manchicken13:10
Riddell!testers | 4.12.0 in ninjas13:11
ubottu4.12.0 in ninjas: Help is needed in #kubuntu-devel. Please ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, smartboyhw, Quintasan, lordievader, shrini, tester56, parad1se  for information13:11
RiddellSick_Rimmit: you a tester too?13:11
apacheloggerRiddell, shadeslayer: which host runs qa.kubuntu.co.uk and do I have access to that?13:13
lordievaderRiddell: The ninja ppa is still yofel's private ppa? If so, I'll run a test this evening.13:13
Riddellapachelogger: docs.kubuntu13:13
apacheloggerk13:13
Riddelllordievader: it's kubuntu-ninjas private PPA13:14
Riddellapachelogger: hmm you don't seem to have an account on it13:14
Riddellapachelogger: give me preferred username if you want one13:14
apacheloggerRiddell: not needed right now, was just looking for a test machine13:15
apacheloggergoing to use a blue systems one13:15
soeeRiddell: isnt kopete still building ?13:16
Riddellsoee: in saucy yes13:21
BluesKajRiddell, I'm here :)13:21
BluesKajwhat's up ?13:23
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RiddellBluesKaj: we need 4.12.0 tested14:03
BluesKajRiddell, Platform Version 4.11.97 ?14:05
RiddellBluesKaj: no, 4.12.014:09
RiddellBluesKaj: it's in kubuntu-ninjas14:09
soeeRiddell: sausy ready ?14:22
soee*c14:22
tester56__what is the status of khtml? I see it being ported to frameworks 5. Does maintining khtml still make sense (as I understand it can't keep up with webkit/blin)14:24
Riddellsoee: yes it's ready for testing14:24
tester56__and applications like kmail etc. support kpart-webkit as a replacement, so one may ask why all the duplicate effort?14:25
Riddelltester56__: probably not but this is free software and as long as people work on it then it happens14:25
Riddelltester56__: I agree it's a waste of effort, but for KF5 the policy is to maintain source compatibility if possible and in this case it's possible14:25
tester56__Riddell: do all kde applications support webkit?14:26
tester56__does anyone know if there are plans for supporting blink along with webkit in kpart?14:29
BluesKaj_Riddell, binary packages of 4.12 Release Candidate (internally 4.11.97) , is this different ? , http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.12-rc.php , because I don't see anything about KDE 4.12 on kubunyu-ninjas14:36
BluesKaj_er kubuntu-ninjas14:37
BluesKaj_already running  4.11.9714:39
Riddelltester56__: I don't know if all applications support webkit I'm afraid14:45
Riddelltester56__: it's too early for plans for blink yet14:45
RiddellBluesKaj_: kubuntu-ninjas PPA has 4.12.0 packages. if you don't see them you're not using kubuntu-ninjas ppa14:45
apachelogger14.04 deadlines board is now called deadlines&quality control15:06
apacheloggerto more accurately reflect the content15:06
Riddellit still sounds ominous15:08
Riddellhow about Ministry for Truth and Completion? :)15:08
apacheloggerlol15:09
RiddellScottK: around to quiz mitya57?15:25
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Riddellcongratulations to mitya57 for getting upload rights to sip and pyqt, just when there's a new sip release needing merged in15:48
mitya57Riddell: thanks again, hopefully I'll be able to do that soon (also, it's a minor release, no hurry here)16:00
Riddellmitya57: interesting how you're into both Qt and Gnome, not a combination that usually goes together :)16:01
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mitya57Riddell: well, I'm mostly moving away from GNOME now16:04
mitya57But I have some Ubuntu GNOME/Unity installations deployed, which I need to support :)16:05
mitya57(Don't worry, Kubuntu is there too :P)16:05
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soeeRiddell: saucy update without single problem16:52
Riddellsoee: to 4.12.0 ?16:57
soeeRiddell: yes16:57
Riddellawesome16:57
macohey anyone else hit a bug where if your screensaver comes on due to inactivity (as opposed to choosing to lock), the lock screeen can be dismissed simply by moving the mouse?17:00
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macoit's showing me the lock screen, there's a space to type my password, but as soon as i move the mouse, it unlocks17:00
Riddellmaco: yes, known bug17:01
macokk17:01
Riddellor crappy usability17:01
macoas in it shouldnt show the password box til its properly locked?17:01
Riddellsystem settings -> display and monitor-> screen locker -> start automatically -> require password17:01
BluesKaj_Riddell, can't find the ninja ppa with kde 4.12 , guess i need username and pw , got an accessible url ?17:39
BluesKaj_soee, do you have it ?17:49
soeeBluesKaj_: ypu17:50
BluesKaj_soee, can you post it , in a pm perhaps ?17:51
BluesKaj_oh , that's for saucy , i assumed it was for trusty17:52
soeeBluesKaj_: got it ?17:52
soeeah no :D17:53
BluesKaj_ok17:53
BluesKaj_running trusty here17:53
lordievaderRiddell: 4.12 installed fine on Trusty. Rebooted and saw nothing strange. Should I write a report somewhere or is this enough?18:49
NoskcajI said it yesterday, but nearly all of the ktp packages can be synced. It might have to be a fakesync because debian build their tarballs from a release tracking git18:50
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joseRiddell: ping19:43
olivier___helllo21:12
olivier___is kubuntu working with non pae cpu ??21:13
Noskcajolivier___, I'm pretty sure no ubuntu flavours support non-pae21:13
NoskcajThere is a custom lubuntu release and a number of other distros like crunchbang that do21:14
olivier___ok... i am gonna check that .... thanks noskcaj21:14
olivier___bye bye21:15
lordievaderNoskcaj: I was told that Xubuntu 12.04 also uses a non-pae kernel.21:17
NoskcajMaybe. Wouldn't that mean all of 12.04 did?21:17
lordievaderNoskcaj: I thought Kubuntu uses the pae kernel per default.21:18
lordievaderhttp://xubuntu.org/news/12-04-release/21:18
lordievader"The i386 images use a non-PAE kernel. The non-PAE kernel will not be available in future Xubuntu releases."21:18
Noskcajinteresting21:18
yofelactually, our 12.04.0 release should be non-pae, in the other ones I'm not sure. IIRC something broke there21:56
Riddelljose: pong22:06
joseRiddell: hey, the guy from UDS-R here, wanted to check if you could please assign a task I claimed on GCI22:06
RiddellUDS-R? there were lots of guys there :)22:08
Riddelljose: awesome, assigned!22:08
Riddellyou want to bzr branch lp:~kubuntu-website/kubuntu-website/kubuntu.org22:09
joseRiddell: yeah, I called you for your interview if you remember :)22:09
Riddellyou made me famous :)22:09
josehaha22:10
joseRiddell: so, I don't know if you could please be a bit more specific on what needs to be done22:10
joseI have some time now to do it22:10
Riddelljose: yeah let's look at it22:11
josebranched22:12
Riddelljose: so because our website setup is so crap images can't be attached to a page but need to be in the theme which you just branched22:13
Riddelljose: do you have a launchpad account id?22:14
joseRiddell: jose should be it22:14
Riddelljose: groovy, I added you to https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-website22:16
Riddellso you can commit or push directly there22:16
josecool22:16
joseI'd still go for a MP before :P22:16
Riddelljose: just sent you access details for the website22:17
josechecking that22:17
Riddelljose: your task is to update kubuntu.org/feature-tour22:20
Riddelljose: no major changed needed as you noted but some of it is out of date22:20
Riddelljose: I started already on kubuntu.org/feature-tour-new22:21
Riddellwhich you can edit at https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/node/302/edit22:21
joselet's be honest - I don't find any differences between one or the other22:22
josejust looked them side by side22:22
Riddelljose: yeah because I updated some of the images in the theme but that didn't get synced to the server yet22:22
Riddellas I say our website setup is a bit crappy22:23
Riddelljose: so your task is to work out what images I've already updated and make sure they're sane then update all the rest22:23
Riddelljose: are you running 13.10? (or even better Trusty?)22:24
josestuck with raring22:24
josebut I can download trusty for sure22:24
Riddellhmm I don't even know if the trust images are working todayhttps://www-admin.kubuntu.org/node/302/edit22:24
Riddelltsk, bad paste22:25
Riddellhmm I don't even know if the trusty images are working today22:25
Riddelljose: can you download saucy and install that (to a virtual machine is fine)?22:25
joseyeppers, doing that now22:25
RiddellI seem to have done images down to "Surf the Internet safely" so from there on you need to retake the screenshorts22:26
Riddellor take better ones if you think they're not relevant or very interesting22:26
Riddellalso we just changed Trusty from rekonq to Firefox by default so you can change the text there22:27
josemhm, I'll finish downloading the image and start doing that22:27
joseyou're @ London, right?22:27
RiddellEdinburgh :)22:28
Riddellbut same timezone (until next year at least)22:28
mikeinsandpointhi22:28
mikeinsandpointI have a kinda dumb question... will Kubuntu run on an old MAC?  22:29
joseRiddell: cool, I'm UTC -5 so I'll poke you during your afternoon if needed :)22:30
Riddellmikeinsandpoint: it depends on the model22:30
mikeinsandpointan 8500?22:30
Riddellooh a classic.  no I'm afraid that'll be too old22:32
mikeinsandpointwhat about a G4 flowerpot?  22:33
Riddellhonestly no idea,you can try to download our 12.04 powerpc image and try it http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/12.04/release/22:35
Riddell"Kontact integrates seamlessly with your address book and our productivity suite." does it? how does it intergrate into libreoffice?22:36
Riddelljose: I think you can reword that sentence22:37
Riddell"KDE Telepathy, Kubuntu's instant-messaging client" just rename it KDE Instant Messenger, telepathy isn't a very user facing name22:37
* jose notes22:37
Riddell"restricted formats such as MP3 are installed with two clicks" during the install usually22:38
Riddelljose: hmm there's a second paragraph about Kontact, that seems like duplications, tidy that up somehow?22:39
mikeinsandpoint'Thank you  Riddell.. I like old hardware, for some reason.. nostalgia I guess.  I want to get a modern OS on them though so they are more useable.  22:39
joseno worries22:39
joseI'm making a list of what I should change22:39
Riddelljose: maybe finish with a quick line about friendly community with forums and whatnot to help22:39
josesure22:40
Riddelljose: when it's all done hassle canonical sysadmin to sync the theme22:40
joseknow who to poke there, so that's good22:41
Riddellthen repeat for anything else you notice that needs improved :)22:41
ahoneybunRiddell: talking about the feature tour?22:59
ahoneybunjose: can you join us on trello23:01
ahoneybun?23:01
ahoneybunhttps://trello.com/b/4zyxwgRP/14-04-documentation23:01
josejose: sure, jose@ubuntu-pe.org should be the address23:01
josewhoops23:02
joseahoneybun: ^23:02
ahoneybunjose: go to trello.com and sign up and I will add you to the board (or Riddell)23:03
joseahoneybun: joseeantonior@ubuntu-pe.org is the email address I use for Trello23:03
ahoneybunoh sorry23:04
ahoneybunadded23:04
josecool, thanks :)23:05
ahoneybunand assigned23:05
ahoneybunnp :)23:05
ahoneybunso what has been done so far>23:05
ahoneybun?23:05
joseright now I'm still downloading saucy23:07
josemy internet connection is a bit slow23:07
ahoneybuncool I have it installed, dual boot23:07
ahoneybunbrb going to go into Kubuntu, been playing Borderlands223:10
ahoneybunback jose23:12
josecool23:12
ahoneybunRiddell: you there?23:13
joseI should finish downloading in a couple hours23:13
ahoneybunnice23:14
ahoneybunjose: so Riddell has the images?23:14
josenope, I need to take some screenshots23:15
ahoneybunoh I have a pretty default install right now23:15
ahoneybunI could take them23:15
Riddellahoneybun:hi23:16
ahoneybunhey Riddell23:16
Riddellahoneybun: let jose do it, it's his google code-in task :)23:16
ahoneybunRiddell: oh did not know 23:16
joseyeppers, the first one this year23:17
josebeen kinda hard to participate as I'm graduating from school tomorrow23:17
ahoneybunjose: congraz23:17
josethanks :)23:17
ahoneybunRiddell: I never could get on to the site to edit23:18
Riddellahoneybun: using konqueror?23:19
ahoneybunRiddell: tried it with rekonq23:19
yofelrekonq should be able to log in23:20
yofelthough the site was kinda broken in rekonq lately for me23:20
ahoneybunif you could send me the log in 23:20
ahoneybunyofel: logged in but did not look anydifferent I could not edit23:21
Riddellahoneybun: you need to both get past the http auth and the drupal login23:21
yofelhow did you try to edit? you need to go through the admin section and edit the content pages from there23:21
Riddelltwo passwords23:21
ahoneybunyofel: looked like the normal site23:21
ahoneybunno options23:22
yofelyou should've had more menu items on the right23:22
ahoneybunnope23:22
yofelok, pm23:22
ahoneybunmaybe try konqueror23:23
yofelhm, I can log in with both rekonq and konqueror23:24
yofelrekonq just can't execute some of the javascript properly23:24
joseit's quite clear I can't login to drupal on Firefox :P23:24
ahoneybunkonq skips the login23:27
ahoneybunmust have took the save pass from rekonq23:27
yofelit won't ask you the htaccess one again if you tried it once23:27
yofel(IIRC)23:27
yofelnow go to /user and log in again23:27
ahoneybunorry, unrecognized username or password.23:30
ahoneybunS23:30
yofeluser admin and password that I gave you o.O?23:30
ahoneybunthe second pass yea23:31
yofelcan't be, works for me :S23:31
yofelyou are using rekonq or konqueror?23:32
ahoneybunidk then23:32
ahoneybuntried both23:32
ahoneybunsame thing23:32
yofel@_@23:32
ahoneybundouble check it23:33
ahoneybunthe pass I mean23:33
ahoneybunodd23:34
ahoneybunI copy and paste it and it worked23:34
yofelheh23:34
ahoneybunall I can do it edit the info of the admin account23:35
yofelgo to administer->content23:36
ahoneybunI se23:36
ahoneybune23:36
yofelthere you should be able all pages (except for what's part of the template)23:36
yofel... able to edit all ...23:36
ahoneybunvery nice23:37
ahoneybundarn now I can do this but it is jose job lol23:37
jose:P23:38
ahoneybunstill now I can log in right lol23:38
yofelwell, he's updating the feature-tour. We *did* take that out of the template, but now that we can't add any file attachement to the pages we might as well put it back there -.-23:38
ahoneybunthat would be23:39
ahoneybunnice23:39
RiddellI'd rather keep it in the CMS so we can easily update the text if not the images23:40
ahoneybunRiddell: cool with you if I take screenies and give them to jose?23:41
ahoneybunsorry had to restart23:51
Riddellahoneybun: sure23:56
Riddellahoneybun: did you see valorie got it sorted to move docs to the kde wiki?23:57

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