[00:29] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I has 0.8.1-1ubuntu3.2
[00:29] <Quintasan> and it works
[00:29] <Quintasan> as in, doesn't crash when I plug in a mouse
[00:33] <Quintasan> reported and changed tags
[00:33] <Quintasan> I even tried repeatedly replugging the mouse to see it it crashes but it didn't
[01:28] <apachelogger> xnox: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1261251 thoughts would be appreciated
[01:28] <apachelogger> Quintasan: hoorayz
[01:39] <soee> someone fixed 4.12 for saucy :)
[01:42] <apachelogger> Quintasan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/akonadi/+bug/1245979
[01:42] <apachelogger> Quintasan: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=326480
[01:42] <apachelogger> soee: it was broken?
[01:43] <soee> apachelogger: 2 packages faild to build from what iv seen earlier
[01:44] <apachelogger> aha
[01:53] <apachelogger> two new whoopsie non-dev/QA cards in case someone wants some low hanging fruit
[02:06] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I can't get used to this damn Trello thing
[02:07] <apachelogger> add some stamps, they help
[02:08] <Quintasan> Stamps?
[02:10] <apachelogger> stickers they are called actually
[02:10] <apachelogger> oh you can't use stickers, you are njo admin
[02:10] <apachelogger> tough luck :P
[02:11] <Quintasan> I don't even know what the hell does that do
[02:11] <Quintasan> Anyways, anyone is working on the ufw-kde package?
[02:11] <apachelogger> it adds a sticker
[02:11] <apachelogger> https://trello.com/b/4zyxwgRP/14-04-documentation
[02:11] <apachelogger> the documentation l10n card has a sticker
[02:11] <apachelogger> it makes the card 100% more sticky
[02:12] <apachelogger> Quintasan: https://trello.com/c/OUuTZcud assigned and in doing so yes
[02:12] <apachelogger> you could however ask ovidiu-florin whether he let's you join :P
[02:12] <Quintasan> ovidiu-florin: You are no asleep, are you?
[02:14] <apachelogger> normal people are sleeping at this ungodly hour
[02:14] <apachelogger> two new non-dev QA cards in case someone wants to do something in that area
[02:14] <Quintasan> Unexpectedly I have to agree with you right away on that
[02:20] <Quintasan> holy shit
[02:20] <Quintasan> no wonder I still didn't finish sddm
[02:21] <Quintasan> It's a totaly debian/copyright hell
[02:21] <Quintasan> total*
[02:21]  * apachelogger copyrights Quintasan
[02:22]  * Quintasan slaps WTFPLv2 sticker onto apachelogger's forehead
[02:22]  * Quintasan throws bricks at apachelogger
[02:22] <Quintasan> Well, that covers "do what the fuck you want" about right
[02:22] <Quintasan> :P
[02:23] <apachelogger> also covers "concerningly rude behavior"
[02:24]  * Quintasan patches up apachelogger
[02:24] <Quintasan> kubotu: order beer for apachelogger
[02:24]  * kubotu gives apachelogger a nice frosty mug of beer.
[02:24] <Quintasan> virtual beer for a virtual brick
[02:25] <Quintasan> I won't throw real bricks at you but I can give you beer next time we shall meet
[02:25] <apachelogger> kubotu: order whisky
[02:25]  * kubotu throws a mighty fine glass of Balvenie Doublewood at apachelogger.
[02:25] <kubotu> What are ye looking at?
[02:25]  * apachelogger waves fist at kubotu
[02:25] <apachelogger> kubotu: got a problem mate?
[02:25] <Quintasan> kubotu should respond with "No, sir."
[02:26] <apachelogger> I am reasonable certain that scottish bots don't say no sir
[02:27] <apachelogger> the correct response would be /msg chanserv op $chan /kick $nick
[02:27] <Quintasan> hmm
[02:27] <Quintasan> +1
[02:27] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Y'know, I think this bot is going to be a damn huge box of surprise instead of being a bot
[02:28] <apachelogger> dat sounds dirty
[02:28] <Quintasan> The type of box that you kick instead of opening and when you do so it opens up and kicks you back but with iron shoes.
[02:28] <apachelogger> so, I actually wrote a plugin that allows one to use a bot to control the music played by $hostOfBot
[02:28] <apachelogger> no one using it unfortunately
[02:28] <Quintasan> kubotu: next track
[02:28] <apachelogger> not kubotu
[02:29] <Quintasan> which one?
[02:29] <apachelogger> wrote that the barca office and Riddell because apparently no one likes Riddell's sleepy music :P
[02:29] <apachelogger> *for the
[02:29] <Quintasan> lel
[02:29] <Quintasan> Actually what the hell does Riddell listen to?
[02:29] <apachelogger> rammstein
[02:30] <Quintasan> What.
[02:30] <Quintasan> >sleepy music
[02:30] <apachelogger> actually that sounds wrong
[02:30] <Quintasan> >Rammstein
[02:30] <Quintasan> I know you are not sane but that's a different story.
[02:30] <apachelogger> tranditional scottish music http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXatLOWjr-k
[02:30] <apachelogger> actually not sleep enough, you really have to wait for JR to answer
[02:31] <apachelogger> more of the soothing background music anyway
[02:31] <Quintasan> >Why Does It Always Rain On Me?
[02:31] <Quintasan> I see what you did there.
[02:31] <apachelogger> I peronsally like me some serious bass when doing haxx0ring
[02:32] <apachelogger> Quintasan: actually you should look dat up on wikipedia, I think that song has some reasonable backstory
[02:32] <Quintasan> Hell, looking at my playlist I can't figure what I like.
[02:32] <Quintasan> >He wanted to go somewhere sunny because in his hometown of Glasgow it rained all the time. In an interview at the Live 8 concert, he explained that he was spending a short holiday in the southern vacation city of Eilat in the middle of the winter.[1] The city is known for its hot weather even during winter time, but surprisingly it began to rain for two days during his stay.
[02:32] <apachelogger> was something like he went on vacation to somewhere in the middle east where it not ever rains or something and it rained for the two days he was there
[02:32] <Quintasan> wow
[02:32] <Quintasan> oh wow
[02:32] <Quintasan> >When Travis started to perform this song at the 1999 Glastonbury Festival, after being sunny for several hours, it began to rain exactly when the first line was sung.
[02:32] <Quintasan> JUST WOW
[02:32] <apachelogger> yeah
[02:33] <apachelogger> plus it's a nice tune IMO
[02:33] <Quintasan> HOW DO YOU EVEN GET HATED BY RAIN SO MUCH
[02:33] <apachelogger> xD
[02:35] <Quintasan> my playlist
[02:35] <Quintasan> >classical music
[02:35] <Quintasan> >metal
[02:35] <Quintasan> >rock
[02:35] <Quintasan> >game ost
[02:35] <Quintasan> >game ost
[02:35] <Quintasan> >metal
[02:35] <Quintasan> >more rock
[02:35] <Quintasan> >mooooooooooooore classical music
[02:35] <Quintasan> seriously
[02:36] <apachelogger> I think you just like to have noise :P
[02:37] <Quintasan> I generally listen to classical music now
[02:38] <Quintasan> I used to spam metal and rock
[02:38] <apachelogger> <- never managed to listen to tha metal
[02:38] <apachelogger> makes me all sorts of -.-
[02:39] <apachelogger> well, going to leave you with some more traditional scottish music and head to bed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM0sTNtWDiI :P
[02:40] <Quintasan> apachelogger: Night
[03:22] <manchicken> YES! I finally got Krazy2 working.
[03:23] <manchicken> Anybody good with cmake interested in reviewing my cmake diffs?
[04:02] <manchicken> apachelogger: ping
[05:28] <Mirv> shadeslayer: I haven't done git builds for some while, only from tarballs
[06:57] <Noskcaj> Is there any reason we don't syn the ktp stuff other than no one has the time?
[07:00] <valorie> Noskcaj: is it on the list of 'stuff to do'?
[07:00] <valorie> like ninjas, or the trello?
[07:00] <Noskcaj> idk. I know very little about the workings of kde
[07:00] <valorie> ok, i'll look for you
[07:01] <valorie> ktp=?
[07:01] <Noskcaj> about 15 things on merges.ubuntu.com
[07:03] <valorie> ok, I see those
[07:05] <valorie> on http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/kubuntu-buildstatus/kubuntu-buildstatus.html I see a lot of green for ktp, but that doesn't talk about versioning
[07:07] <Noskcaj> debian has the same version, but it would be better to sync when possible
[07:07] <valorie> debian merges are being postponed for the most part though
[07:07] <valorie> that isn't a KDE thing, that's us
[07:07] <valorie> because so many changes are coming soon, it was felt it would be more work than it's worth
[07:07] <Noskcaj> ok
[07:08] <valorie> whether that affects ktp* dunno
[07:08] <valorie> but after the first of the year, I assume the pace will pick up
[07:09] <valorie> trello is sort hard to search, but an overview of 13.10 and 14.04 boards doesn't mention ktp to my non-devel eyes
[07:10] <valorie> so I will assume it falls with the rest of the postponed merges 
[07:11] <valorie> if there is a reason to get them done now rather than later, please write to the kubuntu-devel list, and I'll bet someone will pick that up
[07:15] <Noskcaj> I could try and do the merges if someone wants, i've got nothing to do and it's annoying having that many things coming up on MoM for no real reason
[07:17] <valorie> if you know how, we can always use the help!
[07:18] <valorie> Noskcaj: all the links are up in the /topic
[07:19] <valorie> I seem to be the only person awake, but i'm rather useless for questions except what you've already asked
[07:20] <Noskcaj> ok, thanks for the help
[07:20] <valorie> thank YOU
[07:21] <valorie> I love it when people walk up and offer to help
[07:23] <Noskcaj> What should my username and password for http://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas be?
[07:38] <Noskcaj> Now i'm going to have to wait for my pc to unfreeze from compiling stuff
[07:41] <valorie> Noskcaj: you'll have to create a login to Identity
[07:41] <valorie> http://identity.kde.org
[07:41] <valorie> with your realname
[07:41] <valorie> that same login can be used almost everywhere in KDE
[07:42] <valorie> note that you can have a different login name than realname
[07:42] <valorie> and your realname is only revealed if you explicitly allow it
[08:04] <Noskcaj> valorie, Turns out i'd already made sync bugs for most of them, but all were ignored because of a tarball issue because debian make their tarballs from git
[08:05] <valorie> interesting
[08:05] <valorie> that doesn't seem like debian!
[08:06] <valorie> always so cautious
[08:09] <Noskcaj> from a upstream release tracker in the pkg-kde git. Just as safe, but annoying for us
[08:10] <Noskcaj> Riddell, PING. Any chance you could go through the ktp stuff and sync/fakesync most of it?
[08:39] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:02] <maximus> nu update kde KDE SC 4.11.4 for kubuntu 12.04?
[09:02] <maximus> no
[09:04] <maximus> who knows something about?
[09:04] <lordievader> maximus: Isn't it in the Kubuntu-backports?
[09:04] <maximus> no
[09:05] <maximus> this the reason i'm asking about this problem
[09:05] <lordievader> Oh right, 4.11.3. Guess the devs haven't uploaded 4.11.4 yet.
[09:05] <Riddell> maximus: I'm waiting for 4.11.3 to get into -updates before looking at 4.11.4
[09:06] <maximus> after 2 weeks?
[09:06] <Riddell> uh huh
[09:07] <maximus> soon will be here 4.11.5
[09:08] <Riddell> maximus: are you after something in paticular or are you just wainting to be 0.0.1 better?
[09:08] <maximus> 4.11.4 works better
[09:09] <Riddell> Quintasan: should ktp just synced from debian?
[09:09] <maximus> i have it in solydk
[09:09] <maximus> but i need it also in kubuntu 12.04
[09:10] <Riddell> what is solydk ?
[09:10] <maximus> http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=solydxk
[09:11] <valorie> interesting, http://solydxk.com/homeedition/solydk/
[09:11] <xnox> apachelogger: commented, incomplete.
[09:11] <valorie> moar debian
[09:12] <maximus> this the first time i have to wait 2 weeks for kde updates
[09:12] <maximus> it is a shame for kubuntu
[09:12] <maximus> one week it's enough
[09:13] <valorie> maximus: have you thought about helping out?
[09:13] <valorie> our crew is working as fast and hard as they can
[09:15] <maximus> we speak about updates. what work? to put them in backports? till now they solved this problem in days not in weeks
[09:15] <valorie> testing, for starters
[09:15] <maximus> the team from solydk made this work in 2 days
[09:16] <valorie> we don't just package stuff up and throw it out there for users to test, unless they are alpha or beta releases
[09:16] <valorie> but i don't want to fight
[09:16] <maximus> ok thanks. i know that the backports are empty
[09:17] <valorie> I'm just saying, if a job is easy and quick, they get it done quickly
[09:17] <valorie> nobody slacking here
[09:17] <maximus> everything works good with this new release. to test something it takes 2-3 days. kde makes a very good work
[09:20] <Riddell> nice to meet your downstreams
[09:22] <valorie> so what he was saying was: do it quickly, so I can get mine done quickly?
[09:23] <valorie> I sense a certain air of tapping of the quirt on his riding boot
[09:23]  * valorie gets out the bullwhip just in case
[09:24] <Riddell> I wonder what solydxk does that kubuntu doesn't
[09:29] <valorie> sounds like they just build off of debian, so dunno
[09:29] <valorie> and maybe use LTS kub. packages?
[09:29] <valorie> pfff
[09:30] <valorie> http://userbase.kde.org/Amarok/Manual/Playlist/SavedPlaylists
[09:30] <valorie> maybe
[09:31] <Riddell> it is always nice to hear of another downstream but would be nicer to be introduced when not being blamed
[09:31] <valorie> let me export a playlist and put it in my dropbox for ya
[09:31] <valorie> oops, wrong channel for that, sorry
[09:31] <valorie> Riddell: indeed
[09:31] <Riddell> "In November 2012 Linux Mint took the decision not to maintain a KDE version of LMDE and to stop maintaining the Xfce version.[4] SolydXK was started with emphasis on the two desktop environments."
[09:31] <Riddell> aah so it could be seen as being a new Linux Mint KDE
[09:43] <Mamarok> gah who was that guy?
[09:45] <valorie> Maximus from the Gladiator film!
[10:39] <apachelogger> Riddell: so it's a derivate of a derivate of a derivate?
[10:39] <apachelogger> rather fancy
[10:40] <apachelogger> come to think of it, how/why does something based on LMDE use our packages? Oo
[10:42] <apachelogger> man dat distrowatch is useless as a metric
[10:49] <unicodesnowman> apachelogger: distrowatch's 'popularity' metric is more accurately their Google SEO ranking for each distro page
[10:50] <apachelogger> new python qt/kde programming card for minor fixes to usb-creator (also lowhanging fruit)
[10:50] <apachelogger> unicodesnowman: yeah
[10:50] <apachelogger> it's mighty pointless, that's what it is
[10:51] <unicodesnowman> it would actually be (slightly) useful if they calculated useragents 
[10:54] <apachelogger> how so?
[11:11] <unicodesnowman> as in instead of the most visitors to a page, it uses useragents of visitors of the site to determine popularity 
[11:25] <apachelogger> unicodesnowman: metrics would still be skewed because the majority of users will not ever go to such a site unless it shows up as one of the first hits in a very generic linuxy search
[11:26] <apachelogger> that being said the only units capable of producing reliable metrics on intertubes-using-linux-machines would be the search sites themselves
[11:27] <unicodesnowman> but people using privacy focused distros might not connect to the internet / use a particular search engine. it's quite difficult, if not impossible to get non-secrewed data
[11:29] <apachelogger> Riddell, shadeslayer: didn't we fix startkde not workign on trusty?
[11:31] <Riddell> I don't know :(
[11:34] <apachelogger> hm
[11:35] <apachelogger> apparenlty stuff is running, I just get nothing but a cursor
[11:35] <apachelogger> Oo
[12:01] <apachelogger> my 13.10 iso says 12.04 in the installer
[12:01] <apachelogger> Oo
[12:02] <apachelogger> maybe there is a bug in usb-creator
[12:55] <apachelogger> agateau: http://i.imgur.com/Al3gVM0.png
[12:55] <apachelogger> width works in .10
[12:55] <apachelogger> but I think the slideshow shouldn't scale down
[12:55] <apachelogger> shoudl be a fixed size frame thingy IMHO
[12:56] <apachelogger> otherwise as we can see the icon of the slide is too far away from the text
[12:56] <agateau> you mean the kubuntu logo at the bottom right in your screenshot?
[12:57] <apachelogger> yes
[12:58] <apachelogger> I think we should put fixed size constraints on the slideshows (as implicitly was the case previously/in other flavors)
[12:58] <agateau> the problem is: if we don't fill the height then the truncated blurry reflection will look odd there
[12:58] <apachelogger> and so it does not look silly maybe paint a sunk qframe with white background or somesuch nonesense
[12:58] <apachelogger> agateau: TBH the reflection always looked odd to me ;)
[12:59] <apachelogger> also qframe+background may help with the oddness
[12:59] <agateau> I would agree with you, but only if we can fix the slideshow images to not have cropped parts
[12:59] <agateau> I am not fond of using a frame
[12:59] <apachelogger> just give it a try please :P
[12:59] <apachelogger> but yeah, we have cards to revise slideshow nonsense already
[12:59] <apachelogger> might as well change the icons as part of those
[13:01] <manchicken> apachelogger: Howdy :)
[13:01] <manchicken> Did you understand what I meant about the size of my change?
[13:02] <manchicken> https://github.com/manchicken/libqapt/blob/master/ChangeLog
[13:03] <apachelogger> ahoy, you mean spaceships!
[13:03] <manchicken> At least shuttles.
[13:03] <apachelogger> manchicken: poke apol on #kde-devel what he prefers
[13:03] <apachelogger> some people also like to use reviewboard for huge ass diffs because of the commenting feature etc.
[13:05] <manchicken> I am completely unaware of the review boad.
[13:05] <manchicken> board even
[13:05] <manchicken> I know it's a thing, but I've never worked with it before.
[13:05] <apachelogger> basically git diff, upload to git.reviewboard.kde.org and fill out the review information (target branch, people to review etc.)
[13:06] <manchicken> It seems like everybody is saying that's the route I should take, so I'm working in that direction. Right now I'm more worried about whittling down the list of items I'm going to have pop out so I can save everybody some time.
[13:06] <manchicken> Also, if everybody thinks these changes are a bad idea, it'd be good to get that out of the way sooner rather than later :)
[13:06] <manchicken> That's cool
[13:07] <manchicken> That seems very similar to what we do with bzr merge requests.
[13:07] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:08] <manchicken> apachelogger: shadeslayer also seems like an interested party. He seems to be doing some Qt5 porting work.
[13:08] <manchicken> BluesKaj: Hiya
[13:09] <apachelogger> manchicken: simply add him to the reviewers then ;)
[13:10] <BluesKaj> hi manchicken
[13:11] <Riddell> !testers | 4.12.0 in ninjas
[13:11] <Riddell> Sick_Rimmit: you a tester too?
[13:13] <apachelogger> Riddell, shadeslayer: which host runs qa.kubuntu.co.uk and do I have access to that?
[13:13] <lordievader> Riddell: The ninja ppa is still yofel's private ppa? If so, I'll run a test this evening.
[13:13] <Riddell> apachelogger: docs.kubuntu
[13:13] <apachelogger> k
[13:14] <Riddell> lordievader: it's kubuntu-ninjas private PPA
[13:14] <Riddell> apachelogger: hmm you don't seem to have an account on it
[13:14] <Riddell> apachelogger: give me preferred username if you want one
[13:15] <apachelogger> Riddell: not needed right now, was just looking for a test machine
[13:15] <apachelogger> going to use a blue systems one
[13:16] <soee> Riddell: isnt kopete still building ?
[13:21] <Riddell> soee: in saucy yes
[13:21] <BluesKaj> Riddell, I'm here :)
[13:23] <BluesKaj> what's up ?
[14:03] <Riddell> BluesKaj: we need 4.12.0 tested
[14:05] <BluesKaj> Riddell, Platform Version 4.11.97 ?
[14:09] <Riddell> BluesKaj: no, 4.12.0
[14:09] <Riddell> BluesKaj: it's in kubuntu-ninjas
[14:22] <soee> Riddell: sausy ready ?
[14:22] <soee> *c
[14:24] <tester56__> what is the status of khtml? I see it being ported to frameworks 5. Does maintining khtml still make sense (as I understand it can't keep up with webkit/blin)
[14:24] <Riddell> soee: yes it's ready for testing
[14:25] <tester56__> and applications like kmail etc. support kpart-webkit as a replacement, so one may ask why all the duplicate effort?
[14:25] <Riddell> tester56__: probably not but this is free software and as long as people work on it then it happens
[14:25] <Riddell> tester56__: I agree it's a waste of effort, but for KF5 the policy is to maintain source compatibility if possible and in this case it's possible
[14:26] <tester56__> Riddell: do all kde applications support webkit?
[14:29] <tester56__> does anyone know if there are plans for supporting blink along with webkit in kpart?
[14:36] <BluesKaj_> Riddell, binary packages of 4.12 Release Candidate (internally 4.11.97) , is this different ? , http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.12-rc.php , because I don't see anything about KDE 4.12 on kubunyu-ninjas
[14:37] <BluesKaj_> er kubuntu-ninjas
[14:39] <BluesKaj_> already running  4.11.97
[14:45] <Riddell> tester56__: I don't know if all applications support webkit I'm afraid
[14:45] <Riddell> tester56__: it's too early for plans for blink yet
[14:45] <Riddell> BluesKaj_: kubuntu-ninjas PPA has 4.12.0 packages. if you don't see them you're not using kubuntu-ninjas ppa
[15:06] <apachelogger> 14.04 deadlines board is now called deadlines&quality control
[15:06] <apachelogger> to more accurately reflect the content
[15:08] <Riddell> it still sounds ominous
[15:08] <Riddell> how about Ministry for Truth and Completion? :)
[15:09] <apachelogger> lol
[15:25] <Riddell> ScottK: around to quiz mitya57?
[15:48] <Riddell> congratulations to mitya57 for getting upload rights to sip and pyqt, just when there's a new sip release needing merged in
[16:00] <mitya57> Riddell: thanks again, hopefully I'll be able to do that soon (also, it's a minor release, no hurry here)
[16:01] <Riddell> mitya57: interesting how you're into both Qt and Gnome, not a combination that usually goes together :)
[16:04] <mitya57> Riddell: well, I'm mostly moving away from GNOME now
[16:05] <mitya57> But I have some Ubuntu GNOME/Unity installations deployed, which I need to support :)
[16:05] <mitya57> (Don't worry, Kubuntu is there too :P)
[16:52] <soee> Riddell: saucy update without single problem
[16:57] <Riddell> soee: to 4.12.0 ?
[16:57] <soee> Riddell: yes
[16:57] <Riddell> awesome
[17:00] <maco> hey anyone else hit a bug where if your screensaver comes on due to inactivity (as opposed to choosing to lock), the lock screeen can be dismissed simply by moving the mouse?
[17:00] <maco> it's showing me the lock screen, there's a space to type my password, but as soon as i move the mouse, it unlocks
[17:01] <Riddell> maco: yes, known bug
[17:01] <maco> kk
[17:01] <Riddell> or crappy usability
[17:01] <maco> as in it shouldnt show the password box til its properly locked?
[17:01] <Riddell> system settings -> display and monitor-> screen locker -> start automatically -> require password
[17:39] <BluesKaj_> Riddell, can't find the ninja ppa with kde 4.12 , guess i need username and pw , got an accessible url ?
[17:49] <BluesKaj_> soee, do you have it ?
[17:50] <soee> BluesKaj_: ypu
[17:51] <BluesKaj_> soee, can you post it , in a pm perhaps ?
[17:52] <BluesKaj_> oh , that's for saucy , i assumed it was for trusty
[17:52] <soee> BluesKaj_: got it ?
[17:53] <soee> ah no :D
[17:53] <BluesKaj_> ok
[17:53] <BluesKaj_> running trusty here
[18:49] <lordievader> Riddell: 4.12 installed fine on Trusty. Rebooted and saw nothing strange. Should I write a report somewhere or is this enough?
[18:50] <Noskcaj> I said it yesterday, but nearly all of the ktp packages can be synced. It might have to be a fakesync because debian build their tarballs from a release tracking git
[19:43] <jose> Riddell: ping
[21:12] <olivier___> helllo
[21:13] <olivier___> is kubuntu working with non pae cpu ??
[21:13] <Noskcaj> olivier___, I'm pretty sure no ubuntu flavours support non-pae
[21:14] <Noskcaj> There is a custom lubuntu release and a number of other distros like crunchbang that do
[21:14] <olivier___> ok... i am gonna check that .... thanks noskcaj
[21:15] <olivier___> bye bye
[21:17] <lordievader> Noskcaj: I was told that Xubuntu 12.04 also uses a non-pae kernel.
[21:17] <Noskcaj> Maybe. Wouldn't that mean all of 12.04 did?
[21:18] <lordievader> Noskcaj: I thought Kubuntu uses the pae kernel per default.
[21:18] <lordievader> http://xubuntu.org/news/12-04-release/
[21:18] <lordievader> "The i386 images use a non-PAE kernel. The non-PAE kernel will not be available in future Xubuntu releases."
[21:18] <Noskcaj> interesting
[21:56] <yofel> actually, our 12.04.0 release should be non-pae, in the other ones I'm not sure. IIRC something broke there
[22:06] <Riddell> jose: pong
[22:06] <jose> Riddell: hey, the guy from UDS-R here, wanted to check if you could please assign a task I claimed on GCI
[22:08] <Riddell> UDS-R? there were lots of guys there :)
[22:08] <Riddell> jose: awesome, assigned!
[22:09] <Riddell> you want to bzr branch lp:~kubuntu-website/kubuntu-website/kubuntu.org
[22:09] <jose> Riddell: yeah, I called you for your interview if you remember :)
[22:09] <Riddell> you made me famous :)
[22:10] <jose> haha
[22:10] <jose> Riddell: so, I don't know if you could please be a bit more specific on what needs to be done
[22:10] <jose> I have some time now to do it
[22:11] <Riddell> jose: yeah let's look at it
[22:12] <jose> branched
[22:13] <Riddell> jose: so because our website setup is so crap images can't be attached to a page but need to be in the theme which you just branched
[22:14] <Riddell> jose: do you have a launchpad account id?
[22:14] <jose> Riddell: jose should be it
[22:16] <Riddell> jose: groovy, I added you to https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-website
[22:16] <Riddell> so you can commit or push directly there
[22:16] <jose> cool
[22:16] <jose> I'd still go for a MP before :P
[22:17] <Riddell> jose: just sent you access details for the website
[22:17] <jose> checking that
[22:20] <Riddell> jose: your task is to update kubuntu.org/feature-tour
[22:20] <Riddell> jose: no major changed needed as you noted but some of it is out of date
[22:21] <Riddell> jose: I started already on kubuntu.org/feature-tour-new
[22:21] <Riddell> which you can edit at https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/node/302/edit
[22:22] <jose> let's be honest - I don't find any differences between one or the other
[22:22] <jose> just looked them side by side
[22:22] <Riddell> jose: yeah because I updated some of the images in the theme but that didn't get synced to the server yet
[22:23] <Riddell> as I say our website setup is a bit crappy
[22:23] <Riddell> jose: so your task is to work out what images I've already updated and make sure they're sane then update all the rest
[22:24] <Riddell> jose: are you running 13.10? (or even better Trusty?)
[22:24] <jose> stuck with raring
[22:24] <jose> but I can download trusty for sure
[22:24] <Riddell> hmm I don't even know if the trust images are working todayhttps://www-admin.kubuntu.org/node/302/edit
[22:25] <Riddell> tsk, bad paste
[22:25] <Riddell> hmm I don't even know if the trusty images are working today
[22:25] <Riddell> jose: can you download saucy and install that (to a virtual machine is fine)?
[22:25] <jose> yeppers, doing that now
[22:26] <Riddell> I seem to have done images down to "Surf the Internet safely" so from there on you need to retake the screenshorts
[22:26] <Riddell> or take better ones if you think they're not relevant or very interesting
[22:27] <Riddell> also we just changed Trusty from rekonq to Firefox by default so you can change the text there
[22:27] <jose> mhm, I'll finish downloading the image and start doing that
[22:27] <jose> you're @ London, right?
[22:28] <Riddell> Edinburgh :)
[22:28] <Riddell> but same timezone (until next year at least)
[22:28] <mikeinsandpoint> hi
[22:29] <mikeinsandpoint> I have a kinda dumb question... will Kubuntu run on an old MAC?  
[22:30] <jose> Riddell: cool, I'm UTC -5 so I'll poke you during your afternoon if needed :)
[22:30] <Riddell> mikeinsandpoint: it depends on the model
[22:30] <mikeinsandpoint> an 8500?
[22:32] <Riddell> ooh a classic.  no I'm afraid that'll be too old
[22:33] <mikeinsandpoint> what about a G4 flowerpot?  
[22:35] <Riddell> honestly no idea,you can try to download our 12.04 powerpc image and try it http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/12.04/release/
[22:36] <Riddell> "Kontact integrates seamlessly with your address book and our productivity suite." does it? how does it intergrate into libreoffice?
[22:37] <Riddell> jose: I think you can reword that sentence
[22:37] <Riddell> "KDE Telepathy, Kubuntu's instant-messaging client" just rename it KDE Instant Messenger, telepathy isn't a very user facing name
[22:37]  * jose notes
[22:38] <Riddell> "restricted formats such as MP3 are installed with two clicks" during the install usually
[22:39] <Riddell> jose: hmm there's a second paragraph about Kontact, that seems like duplications, tidy that up somehow?
[22:39] <mikeinsandpoint> 'Thank you  Riddell.. I like old hardware, for some reason.. nostalgia I guess.  I want to get a modern OS on them though so they are more useable.  
[22:39] <jose> no worries
[22:39] <jose> I'm making a list of what I should change
[22:39] <Riddell> jose: maybe finish with a quick line about friendly community with forums and whatnot to help
[22:40] <jose> sure
[22:40] <Riddell> jose: when it's all done hassle canonical sysadmin to sync the theme
[22:41] <jose> know who to poke there, so that's good
[22:41] <Riddell> then repeat for anything else you notice that needs improved :)
[22:59] <ahoneybun> Riddell: talking about the feature tour?
[23:01] <ahoneybun> jose: can you join us on trello
[23:01] <ahoneybun> ?
[23:01] <ahoneybun> https://trello.com/b/4zyxwgRP/14-04-documentation
[23:01] <jose> jose: sure, jose@ubuntu-pe.org should be the address
[23:02] <jose> whoops
[23:02] <jose> ahoneybun: ^
[23:03] <ahoneybun> jose: go to trello.com and sign up and I will add you to the board (or Riddell)
[23:03] <jose> ahoneybun: joseeantonior@ubuntu-pe.org is the email address I use for Trello
[23:04] <ahoneybun> oh sorry
[23:04] <ahoneybun> added
[23:05] <jose> cool, thanks :)
[23:05] <ahoneybun> and assigned
[23:05] <ahoneybun> np :)
[23:05] <ahoneybun> so what has been done so far>
[23:05] <ahoneybun> ?
[23:07] <jose> right now I'm still downloading saucy
[23:07] <jose> my internet connection is a bit slow
[23:07] <ahoneybun> cool I have it installed, dual boot
[23:10] <ahoneybun> brb going to go into Kubuntu, been playing Borderlands2
[23:12] <ahoneybun> back jose
[23:12] <jose> cool
[23:13] <ahoneybun> Riddell: you there?
[23:13] <jose> I should finish downloading in a couple hours
[23:14] <ahoneybun> nice
[23:14] <ahoneybun> jose: so Riddell has the images?
[23:15] <jose> nope, I need to take some screenshots
[23:15] <ahoneybun> oh I have a pretty default install right now
[23:15] <ahoneybun> I could take them
[23:16] <Riddell> ahoneybun:hi
[23:16] <ahoneybun> hey Riddell
[23:16] <Riddell> ahoneybun: let jose do it, it's his google code-in task :)
[23:16] <ahoneybun> Riddell: oh did not know 
[23:17] <jose> yeppers, the first one this year
[23:17] <jose> been kinda hard to participate as I'm graduating from school tomorrow
[23:17] <ahoneybun> jose: congraz
[23:17] <jose> thanks :)
[23:18] <ahoneybun> Riddell: I never could get on to the site to edit
[23:19] <Riddell> ahoneybun: using konqueror?
[23:19] <ahoneybun> Riddell: tried it with rekonq
[23:20] <yofel> rekonq should be able to log in
[23:20] <yofel> though the site was kinda broken in rekonq lately for me
[23:20] <ahoneybun> if you could send me the log in 
[23:21] <ahoneybun> yofel: logged in but did not look anydifferent I could not edit
[23:21] <Riddell> ahoneybun: you need to both get past the http auth and the drupal login
[23:21] <yofel> how did you try to edit? you need to go through the admin section and edit the content pages from there
[23:21] <Riddell> two passwords
[23:21] <ahoneybun> yofel: looked like the normal site
[23:22] <ahoneybun> no options
[23:22] <yofel> you should've had more menu items on the right
[23:22] <ahoneybun> nope
[23:22] <yofel> ok, pm
[23:23] <ahoneybun> maybe try konqueror
[23:24] <yofel> hm, I can log in with both rekonq and konqueror
[23:24] <yofel> rekonq just can't execute some of the javascript properly
[23:24] <jose> it's quite clear I can't login to drupal on Firefox :P
[23:27] <ahoneybun> konq skips the login
[23:27] <ahoneybun> must have took the save pass from rekonq
[23:27] <yofel> it won't ask you the htaccess one again if you tried it once
[23:27] <yofel> (IIRC)
[23:27] <yofel> now go to /user and log in again
[23:30] <ahoneybun> orry, unrecognized username or password.
[23:30] <ahoneybun> S
[23:30] <yofel> user admin and password that I gave you o.O?
[23:31] <ahoneybun> the second pass yea
[23:31] <yofel> can't be, works for me :S
[23:32] <yofel> you are using rekonq or konqueror?
[23:32] <ahoneybun> idk then
[23:32] <ahoneybun> tried both
[23:32] <ahoneybun> same thing
[23:32] <yofel> @_@
[23:33] <ahoneybun> double check it
[23:33] <ahoneybun> the pass I mean
[23:34] <ahoneybun> odd
[23:34] <ahoneybun> I copy and paste it and it worked
[23:34] <yofel> heh
[23:35] <ahoneybun> all I can do it edit the info of the admin account
[23:36] <yofel> go to administer->content
[23:36] <ahoneybun> I se
[23:36] <ahoneybun> e
[23:36] <yofel> there you should be able all pages (except for what's part of the template)
[23:36] <yofel> ... able to edit all ...
[23:37] <ahoneybun> very nice
[23:37] <ahoneybun> darn now I can do this but it is jose job lol
[23:38] <jose> :P
[23:38] <ahoneybun> still now I can log in right lol
[23:38] <yofel> well, he's updating the feature-tour. We *did* take that out of the template, but now that we can't add any file attachement to the pages we might as well put it back there -.-
[23:39] <ahoneybun> that would be
[23:39] <ahoneybun> nice
[23:40] <Riddell> I'd rather keep it in the CMS so we can easily update the text if not the images
[23:41] <ahoneybun> Riddell: cool with you if I take screenies and give them to jose?
[23:51] <ahoneybun> sorry had to restart
[23:56] <Riddell> ahoneybun: sure
[23:57] <Riddell> ahoneybun: did you see valorie got it sorted to move docs to the kde wiki?