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| pitti | Good morning | 05:25 |
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| darkxst | hi pitti | 05:25 |
| pitti | hey darkxst | 05:25 |
| darkxst | Laney, any chance you could do a saucy build of trusty webkitgtk on your special ppa? ppa builders still dislike webkit ;( | 05:32 |
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| Laney | morning | 09:06 |
| darkxst | hey Laney | 09:07 |
| Laney | darkxst: hmm | 09:08 |
| darkxst | Laney, please! | 09:08 |
| Laney | they all build for too many architectures | 09:09 |
| Laney | also I'd rather not have to do it for every release | 09:09 |
| Laney | did you try disabling debug symbols etc? | 09:09 |
| darkxst | Laney, its only to fix Bug 1163886 | 09:10 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1163886 in webkit (Ubuntu) "software-center crashed with signal 5 with WebKit 2.0+" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1163886 | 09:10 |
| Laney | oh man we should SRU that | 09:10 |
| darkxst | it has been SRU'ed | 09:10 |
| darkxst | but we have a new webkit on the PPA's | 09:11 |
| Laney | are you already ahead of saucy then? | 09:11 |
| Laney | ._. | 09:11 |
| darkxst | yes | 09:11 |
| pitti | hey Laney, good morning | 09:13 |
| Laney | hey pitti | 09:13 |
| Laney | how are you? | 09:13 |
| pitti | Laney: quite fine thanks! last week before holidays, and still so much stuff to do .. :) | 09:14 |
| pitti | Laney: can merge your new dbusmock template today when you can clean it up (or tell me to do it myself if you don't have time) | 09:14 |
| Laney | I'll do it, sure, just catching up on weekend stuff atm | 09:14 |
| Laney | all the things will still be there after holidays ;-) | 09:15 |
| pitti | yes, and I don't want them to :) | 09:15 |
| darkxst | Laney, so just this once, can you do it? | 09:36 |
| darkxst | I tried disabling debug symbols in the past, but we have dbgsym's enabled on the ppa's | 09:37 |
| Laney | it makes me edgy, the PPA you're talking about is for doing armhf test builds | 09:42 |
| Laney | let me think about it | 09:42 |
| xnox | ubiquity looks very weird with new gtk | 09:49 |
| xnox | it's like 1.5 wider than it used to be | 09:50 |
| darkxst | Laney, ok, let me know | 09:51 |
| Laney | xnox: I guess file a bug, attach a screenshot and let larsu know its # | 09:55 |
| xnox | Laney: i don't exclude that ubiquity is setting style / properties / etc wrong. Ubiquity code did grow since forever, and we do try hard to center re-position the main window. | 09:56 |
| * xnox boots it in !chinese locale first | 09:57 | |
| xnox | btw Ubuntu Kylin default wallpaper is pure beauty. | 09:57 |
| darkxst | xnox, I also have had reports that the partition resize slider is broken | 10:06 |
| xnox | darkxst: i want a screenshot of that. because we did change in saucy the day before release, so it actually might be what it suppose to be. | 10:07 |
| * xnox spins up a large vm to test that. | 10:07 | |
| darkxst | xnox, these are recent, since 3.10 landed, no slider shows up at all apparently | 10:08 |
| darkxst | xnox, Bug 1260473 | 10:10 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1260473 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "The slide bar that allow to rezise the partition does not appear" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1260473 | 10:10 |
| xnox | darkxst: .... and no screenshot | 10:10 |
| * xnox is not Neo to read visual data based on green scrolling text ;-) | 10:11 | |
| darkxst | no I don;t have a screenshot | 10:11 |
| darkxst | numerous people are still complaining though.... | 10:12 |
| darkxst | although I guess thats about normal for the "maybe" install along-side option | 10:12 |
| xnox | nah, it really is broken worse than it normally used to be. | 10:14 |
| darkxst | xnox, ok, its hard to know sometimes, we get a lot of noise on g+ and mailing lists, from people that refuse to actually file bugs | 10:22 |
| xnox | darkxst: who is "we"? | 10:24 |
| darkxst | Ubuntu GNOME | 10:25 |
| xnox | darkxst: well, i believe it's a gtk+3.10 regression, and as GNOME flavour you are best suited to take it up upstream =) | 10:25 |
| xnox | ;-) | 10:28 |
| Laney | you buck passer | 10:28 |
| xnox | giggley giggley gi =) | 10:29 |
| xnox | i've been fixing theming bugs in gtk/ubiquity since I started hacking on ubiquity | 10:29 |
| xnox | i honestly fell like switching to qml/qt, but maybe that simply has it's own set of UI/themeing bugs. | 10:30 |
| Laney | we should make sure to test ubiquity with new gtks really | 10:30 |
| xnox | i don't think gtk based flavours will be happy, but then again, they'll just pick up the frontend maintainance, like kubuntu did for the qt frontend since forever. | 10:31 |
| xnox | Laney: ubiquity - the gtk stress test, caught like 3 grave bugs in glade/gtkbuilder alone.... | 10:31 |
| darkxst | xnox, seems like a larsu thing really, I don't really have much to do with the gtk update (other than wanting it)... themeing is well beyond me | 10:32 |
| xnox | darkxst: well, if one wants gtk update one gets bugs & regressions that come with it. So please help fix them, instead of complaining about the complaints you get =) | 10:34 |
| xnox | anyway | 10:34 |
| xnox | with the width bug, it feels like some rough widgets blows out of proportion. | 10:34 |
| xnox | which is probably the full-ubiquity-window-width progressbar. | 10:34 |
| darkxst | xnox, not complaining, just forwarding! | 10:35 |
| xnox | darkxst: that doesn't help either. triaging bugs, usually involves filtering. e.g. marking the "missing diver bug" as confirmed and attaching screenshot. | 10:36 |
| Laney | xnox: is it upstart-ish to have 'start <somejob>' in a pre-start script? | 10:38 |
| xnox | Laney: yes. | 10:39 |
| Laney | interesting | 10:39 |
| xnox | Laney: it's a non-blocking way to do inverse of "start on starting me" in the "somejob" | 10:39 |
| darkxst | xnox, I don't track ubiquity bugs, unless I happen to see them reported via iso tracker | 10:39 |
| xnox | Laney: such that "somejob" doesn't need to know about all the reverse-alternatives it should be starting on. | 10:39 |
| Laney | Hmm, I think you'd want it to be blocking usually | 10:40 |
| Laney | like, you put it in pre-start because you need the job to run your main program | 10:41 |
| darkxst | but I do see noise form the 'report-a-bug-phobes' | 10:42 |
| darkxst | who when you tell them to run 'ubuntu-bug' say Its too hard | 10:43 |
| Laney | https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/ubuntu-system-settings/welcome-wizard/+merge/186862 | 10:44 |
| Laney | the upstart stuff in there seems smelly to me | 10:44 |
| Laney | wizard/main.cpp and the user session job | 10:44 |
| Laney | xnox: please look | 10:44 |
| xnox | Laney: you really don't want it blocking, otherwise one can easily end up in a dead-lock. | 10:50 |
| xnox | Laney: if blocking is needed, one should use "start on starting" for one thing to block starting the other. | 10:50 |
| Laney | how should one job make sure another one is running without the cooperation of that one? | 10:51 |
| xnox | wait-for-state | 10:52 |
| Laney | NEVER HEARD OF IT! | 10:52 |
| * Laney rtfms | 10:52 | |
| xnox | typically one does "start foo" and then checks that "foo" is start/running, after a timeout | 10:52 |
| xnox | one can write it manually, or use the magic job wait-for-state | 10:53 |
| xnox | let me show you a good example. | 10:53 |
| xnox | So in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plymouth/+bug/967229 | 10:53 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 967229 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Text mode shown briefly with various "cryptic" texts when logging out or shutting down" [High,Triaged] | 10:53 |
| xnox | i proposed this: f | 10:53 |
| xnox | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/158609890/message-less-shutdown.patch | 10:53 |
| Laney | that should be in the cookbook | 10:53 |
| xnox | it's a bit akward, because I first check that the job exists, since it might not. | 10:53 |
| xnox | otherwise ti's straight forward. | 10:54 |
| xnox | e.g. plymouth-shutdown, waits for lightdm to stop | 10:54 |
| xnox | and rc [016] waits for plymouth-shutdown to start | 10:54 |
| xnox | such that one gets "cryptic message less" shutdown. | 10:54 |
| xnox | "flickerless" is a better term, I guess. | 10:55 |
| Laney | ta, that's interesting | 10:55 |
| xnox | also note https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/962047 | 10:55 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 962047 in upstart (Ubuntu) "document wait-for-state" [Medium,Confirmed] | 10:55 |
| Laney | might want to change that assignment :-) | 10:56 |
| xnox | Laney: i think the right solution is for upstart to implement states | 10:56 |
| xnox | e.g. "when runlevel=2 and networking IFACE!=lo" thus start me when those conditions are satisfied and stop me when they are not | 10:56 |
| xnox | such that e.g. restart networking works and doesn't bring down the machine to ~= runlevel 1.5 | 10:57 |
| Laney | well, in this case you want to be able to cause some state transitions to happen too | 10:59 |
| xnox | when does osk keyboard start? | 11:00 |
| Laney | apparently mterry knows this is a pile of hacks apparently | 11:00 |
| Laney | from the comments | 11:00 |
| * Laney is spooked by this | 11:00 | |
| Laney | "let the technical debt in and fix it later" is a model which scares me | 11:00 |
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| Laney | 'started unity8' | 11:01 |
| xnox | Laney: I don't see how wizard will work without unity8, so ubuntu-system-settings-wizard should be: start on started unity and started maliit-server | 11:04 |
| xnox | oh, but it's starts it's own session?! | 11:04 |
| xnox | i thought ubuntu-touch-session is gone already. | 11:05 |
| Laney | no idea | 11:05 |
| xnox | how is this meant to work? or e.g. how does the existing tour-guide work? | 11:05 |
| Laney | nah that still exists | 11:05 |
| Laney | the normal greeter starts it | 11:05 |
| Laney | I think this is about initial configuration | 11:05 |
| xnox | cause the inital system setup is suppose to be part of the tour-guide (either before or after it, can't remember from design docs) | 11:06 |
| Laney | seems like it should be a system job | 11:06 |
| xnox | it's per user, as per design. | 11:06 |
| xnox | not system-wide. | 11:06 |
| Laney | or maybe even just started by unity8 if necessary | 11:08 |
| Laney | ho hum | 11:09 |
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| pitti | Laney: sorry about https://code.launchpad.net/~laney/python-dbusmock/timedated-template/+merge/198976 | 14:06 |
| pitti | Laney: that's a bit strange, does timedatectl get the date itself, not from timedated? | 14:06 |
| pitti | s/date/time zone/ | 14:23 |
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| Laney | pitti: aha, of course, I even noticed that in the second testcase | 14:42 |
| Laney | It gets the offset from localtime() or similar | 14:43 |
| Laney | pitti: try now | 14:48 |
| pitti | Laney: cheers | 14:50 |
| pitti | Laney: merged | 14:51 |
| Laney | \o/ | 14:51 |
| Laney | thanks, I'll leave it alone for now :P | 14:51 |
| pitti | Laney: poke me when it gets urgent, otherwise I'll finish my ofono template first, and upload towards the end of week | 14:53 |
| Laney | pitti: I'll need to finish the testcases themselves first, might not be done this week (= year) anyway; take your time | 14:54 |
| Laney | vim .procmailrc | 14:55 |
| * pitti nudges Laney's mouse pointer in position | 14:55 | |
| Laney | uh no, you aren't a shell prompt | 14:56 |
| Laney | damn you FFM :P | 14:56 |
| pitti | FFM ♥ | 14:56 |
| Laney | huh, a missing colon. I wonder how many years that has been there... | 14:57 |
| Laney | GNOME announce mails have always hit my inbox and I never bothered to look until now | 14:58 |
| xnox | FFM? | 15:16 |
| xnox | i thought we'd have FFE by know based on the builtin webcams. (Focus Follow Eyesight) | 15:16 |
| mlankhorst | oh | 15:24 |
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| xnox_ | Laney: subtle | 16:22 |
| Laney | I tried unsubtle and it didn't work :P | 16:22 |
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| attente | Laney, thanks for the review, i just fixed those issues | 17:23 |
| Laney | great, I'll look again tomorrow | 17:24 |
| alkisg | attente: hi, would you mind having a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-keyboard/+bug/1260226 ? | 17:35 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1260226 in Indicator keyboard "Xorg layout switching shortcut doesn't update indicator" [Undecided,New] | 17:35 |
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| robert_ancell | desrt, are we using dconf 0.19 in trusty? | 20:42 |
| desrt | we ought to be | 20:47 |
| desrt | i don't know if Laney uploaded it yet, though | 20:47 |
| robert_ancell | it appears not | 20:48 |
| Laney | nein | 20:51 |
| Laney | I will do | 20:52 |
| Laney | is there a release this time? | 20:52 |
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