[00:24] <daftykins> hahaha
[00:24] <daftykins> you can't delete the credentials for a wifi network in windows 8.1
[00:24] <daftykins> at least not graphically. i had to run "netsh wlan delete profile name=SSID"
[00:30] <popey> directhex: do you have The Stanley parable?
[07:26] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:38] <MartijnVdS> \o
[07:41]  * MartijnVdS listens to http://open.spotify.com/album/6Ke8YiLYx2pzt8TaDeNp1B 
[07:43]  * MooDoo is at work tackling next years rota.
[07:43] <MartijnVdS> MooDoo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rota,_C%C3%A1diz ?
[07:45] <MooDoo> yeah maybe i should send people there :)
[07:45] <MartijnVdS> "It's for the best"
[08:21] <TheOpenSourcerer> Morning all.
[08:21] <dwatkins> allo allo
[08:21] <MooDoo> morning
[08:26] <dwatkins> cool, the BBC Micro USB adapters may be available again in the new year
[08:26] <dwatkins> Something useful for my little computer museum
[08:50] <SuperMatt> bbc micro usb adaptor?
[08:50] <SuperMatt> sounds too good to be true
[08:51] <dwatkins> SuperMatt: details here: http://www.retroclinic.com/acorn/datacentre/datacentre.htm
[08:51] <dwatkins> I'm still waiting for them to do another batch of them, they had run out of stock when I asked a year ago
[08:52] <SuperMatt> I'm surprised the bbc micro can support such stuff
[08:55] <dwatkins> I think it uses a ROM to present each .ssd and dsd file as a disc to the OS
[08:55] <SuperMatt> I see
[08:55]  * SuperMatt doesn't see
[08:55] <dwatkins> maybe the ROM just sends and receives data via the user port, and the board itself implements the FAT32 filesystem
[08:55] <SuperMatt> I can't remember if I've ever used a bbc micro
[08:56] <MooDoo> Last time I was on one was when I played Frak :)
[08:56] <dwatkins> I replaced the function keys on my IBM Model M keyboard to vaguely resemble a BBC Micro / Archimedes.
[09:13] <dvrr> good morning everyone
[09:13] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[09:13] <czajkowski> gooood morning
[09:14] <daubers> o/
[09:14] <MooDoo> morning laura
[09:14] <czajkowski> Laney: https://plus.google.com/u/0/+LauraCzajkowski/posts/6E2XarLSDGM
[09:14] <Laney> czajkowski: dawwwww
[09:16] <czajkowski> :)
[09:22] <diplo> Morning all
[09:22] <bigcalm> I take it that the carrot is a toy rather than an actual carrot?
[09:23] <diplo> Anyone point me in the direction of what may cause this error in messages "q 30000 above highwater mark 30000, /path/to/file"
[09:23] <diplo> Also keyboard has changed to US style even thouh it says it's UK :/
[09:24] <diplo> Remove US altogether works :)
[09:24] <czajkowski> bigcalm: nope a real one
[09:25] <czajkowski> he loves it
[09:25] <bigcalm> czajkowski: cool, cheap toys :D
[09:26] <czajkowski> oh he has them too but loves a fresh carrot it's amusing to watch
[09:27] <Guest81453> Good morning all; happy Day of Reconciliation! :-D
[09:46] <foobarry> what's that?
[09:56] <bigcalm> You all came back! It was getting cold on my own
[10:31] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[10:31] <SuperMatt> morning
[10:32] <brobostigon> morning SuperMatt
[10:47] <MooDoo> morning morning
[10:54] <brobostigon> morning MooDoo
[10:56] <MooDoo> are you well brobostigon ?
[11:02] <brobostigon> MooDoo: numb, but fine, and you?
[11:03] <MooDoo> on the downward spiral to my hols :D
[11:06] <brobostigon> :)
[11:21] <knightwise> afternoon peeps
[11:24] <bashrc> evening
[11:26] <Monotoko> we have a colonial!
[11:26] <Myrtti> AND IMMIGRANTS
[11:27] <bashrc> really?
[11:27] <Myrtti> well, technically I've not yet immigrated
[11:27] <Myrtti> but oh well
[11:27] <bashrc> I immigrated to planet Earth
[11:27] <knightwise> A colonial ? Who  ?
[11:27] <MooDoo> knightwise: dr who?
[11:27] <knightwise> bashrc: are you sure that was a wise move ?
[11:28] <knightwise> MooDoo: Very clever earthling
[11:28] <knightwise> I managed to fix my synapic pointer issue on my thinkpad last night
[11:28] <knightwise> needed to downgrade the bios to a previous version and then all was honkey dorey
[11:29]  * knightwise did have to use windows to do it
[11:29] <knightwise>  brrr
[11:47] <MooDoo> cold knightwise ;)
[12:10] <knightwise> Hmm.. i'm trying out the ubuntu-after-install script that they have out there
[12:10] <knightwise> pretty convenient if you want to automate a workstations post-install
[12:47] <popey> TheOpenSourcerer: http://www.computerweekly.com/news/2240211011/Avon-drops-SAP-big-bang-transformation
[12:47] <brobostigon> yummy, ham and cheese toastie, day2.
[12:47] <popey> heh, just made the kids cheese toasties
[12:47] <popey> they love them
[12:47] <brobostigon> :)
[12:51] <AlanBell> popey: that is a sizeable failure!
[12:58] <diplo> The place I used to work for have just finally got rid of it after a pretty failed install/go live
[12:59] <diplo> About £6m in total
[13:27] <TheOpenSourcerer> popey: Ouch. $125m down the pan...
[13:28] <foobarry> what are we talking about? i missed a bit of the convo
[13:29] <TheOpenSourcerer> foobarry: http://www.computerweekly.com/news/2240211011/Avon-drops-SAP-big-bang-transformation
[13:30] <popey> I'd be tempted to buy the bits to make a steam machine for the lounge at some point
[13:30] <MooDoo> anyone plauyed with steamos yet just seing that comment of popey 's
[13:31] <popey> not much to play with really if you're already used to steam on linux
[13:32] <directhex> popey, now we know the basics of the os, the next interesting bit will be the controllers shipping in bulk
[13:33] <directhex> popey, also all the steamos boxes and games announced in early jan at CES
[13:33] <popey> yeah, looking forward to trying those new ones
[13:33] <popey> i like the look of that one that goes on the back of the telly
[13:33] <popey> well, i like the *idea* of it
[13:33] <popey> golly, I have 96 linux games in steam
[13:36] <directhex> that all? :p
[13:36] <popey> ☻
[13:36] <popey> bit of a steam newb really
[13:37] <popey> most come from humble bundles I suspect
[13:44] <ali1234> is it worth getting a motherboard with legacy PCI still?
[13:46] <ali1234> it's basically a choice between 4x PCIe and 2x PCIe + 2x PCI
[13:50] <ormiret> ali1234: I'd say you only need PCI if you already have PCI cards you want to use - you're unlikely to need it for anything new.
[13:56] <ali1234> http://www.ebuyer.com/lists/list/279637
[14:01] <popey> speakers?
[14:01] <popey> or a cable to take audio from sound card to screen
[14:04] <directhex> ali1234, which PCI device do you want to use?
[14:04] <directhex> ali1234, i can't even remember the last time PCI made sense
[14:07] <Monotoko> PCI just reminds me we have a PCI DSS assessment in a month... ugh
[14:26] <popey> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nition/scraps-customisable-vehicle-combat-for-windows-mac
[14:26] <popey> that looks hilarious
[14:30] <dwatkins> like KSP for cars
[14:31] <popey> yeah
[14:31] <popey> some of the ridiculous cars in the video are funny
[14:34] <popey> http://www.engadget.com/2013/12/15/datawind-ubislate/
[14:34] <popey> very cheap tablet
[14:34] <popey> (and probably crap)
[14:34] <directhex> banjo kazooie: nuts & bolts for xbox 360
[14:34] <directhex> did the "build a vehicle" thing a long time ago
[14:38] <popey> http://kotaku.com/minecraft-is-coming-to-the-playstation-3-tomorrow-acco-1484097768
[14:40] <AlanBell> but not in the UK popey :(
[14:41] <popey> oh, region specific.. bummer
[14:51] <ali1234> popey have you seen nextcargame?
[14:51] <ali1234> also my dad already has speakers
[14:52] <popey> no, wow
[15:02]  * Seeker` is worried that Boston Dynamics + Google = Skynet
[15:03] <ball> Seeker`: Not until they strap IBM Watson to it ;-)
[15:03] <Seeker`> ball: I wouldn't run that past google...
[15:05] <ball> It's the Forbin Project all over again!
[15:05] <ball> Watson will know that Google/General Dynamics exists
[15:05] <ball> ...and will demand to be spliced onto it. :-)
[15:05] <shauno> so does this make "don't be evil" a defence contractor now?
[15:08] <Seeker`> shauno: no
[15:12] <NET||abuse> has anyone else experienced slowness after resuming from suspend?
[15:12] <NET||abuse> I think i've been seeing it for over a year,
[15:13] <NET||abuse> i've gone through 12.10 to 13.10, and i still have it
[15:13] <NET||abuse> it's really frustrating
[15:30] <ball> Hmm... the Ubuntu download page doesn't make it obvious where to find .torrent files
[15:31] <ball> Ah, if I click back a few times and scroll down...
[15:31] <ball> Found it
[15:41] <popey> NET||abuse: yes. i think it was a bug in unity panel service
[18:01] <AlanBell> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25402621 that is quite cheap, probably for a reason
[18:02] <AlanBell> http://www.ubislate.co.uk/product.php?prodid=1 the actual product
[18:03] <AlanBell> 800x480 screen resolution is pretty low
[18:27] <diddledan__> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-25395989
[18:31] <diddledan__> I think google must be working on a _real_ android
[18:31] <MartijnVdS> diddledan__: they want to replace humans with something else that (a) generates money and (b) doesn't complain about privacy so much
[18:31] <brobostigon> ok, interesting question, using network location, same phone, different networks, would you get different results?
[18:32] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: 800x480? Isn't that the PSP screen res?
[18:36] <popey> thats what the Asus EEE 701 was
[18:37] <popey> 6 years ago
[18:47] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: http://atworkcrm.tumblr.com/post/70189084591/the-story-of-a-christmas-relationship-management
[18:57] <Myrtti> Why do Americans write the month before the day?
[18:57] <Myrtti> http://gu.com/p/3y75k
[18:58] <Myrtti> lol
[18:58] <Myrtti> it has no answers :-D
[20:05] <AlanBell> MartijnVdS: very clever
[20:06] <AlanBell> Myrtti: it is because they say it like that, today is "December 13th" to them, and not "the 13th of December"
[20:06] <AlanBell> but they don't know why they say it the wrong way round
[20:14] <popey> laziness
[20:15] <popey> they don't say "December 13th" they say "December 13"
[20:15] <popey> Extreme lazy ☻
[20:26] <AlanBell> ah, you are right
[20:26] <shauno> I think the more interesting question is why don't we write the month first?
[20:26] <AlanBell> yyy-mm-dd is defensible
[20:26] <AlanBell> yyyy-mm-dd is more defensible than that
[20:30] <shauno> it seems we used to write the month first.  now we don't. and I can't narrow down the shift between them at all
[20:51] <Myrtti> oh
[20:51] <Myrtti> my
[20:51] <Myrtti> gawd
[20:51] <Myrtti> http://www.magdalenahai.com/joulu-saapuu-mordoriin-pipar-dur/
[21:06] <gordonjcp> Myrtti: please do not take this as being against the Coc
[21:06] <gordonjcp> Myrtti: but are all Finnish people that weird?
[21:07] <gordonjcp> it's a work of insane genius
[21:07]  * gordonjcp has yet to meet a Finnish person that could poke sane with a long stick
[21:38] <Myrtti> we are creatively mad.
[21:47] <bigcalm> gordonjcp: one of my ex-gfs is Finnish. Mad as a brush
[21:47] <bigcalm> Daft as a brush
[21:48] <directhex> i need a collaborator for a community project.
[21:49] <bigcalm> Is it to play games?
[21:49] <Myrtti> collaborator
[21:49] <Myrtti> oooorr conspirator?
[21:49] <bigcalm> Just about to reboot to GameOS just to play A New Beginning
[21:49] <Myrtti> mmmm?
[21:49] <Myrtti> conspiracy!
[21:49] <Myrtti> wooo
[21:50]  * bigcalm wonders when OCZ will do something with my returned SSD
[21:52] <directhex> Ye Olde SteamOSe. a steamos remix for older computers. BIOS-compatible, ISOhybrid based distribution
[21:53] <bigcalm> Heh
[21:54] <bigcalm> I have a couple of spare machines
[21:54] <bigcalm> All BIOS
[21:54] <directhex> my i7 is pre-UEFI
[21:55] <directhex> i cba doing this without users, and for that i need things i don't have time to deal with - a domain and a website, basically
[21:56] <directhex> i'm one of the few people at large who knows enough debian-installer B&I to actually do what i'm proposing. all the community solutions i've seen so far have been rubbish
[22:01] <diplo> evening all
[22:08] <Myrtti> those with Google Now on your phones, try 'let's go caroling'
[22:09] <popey> awww
[22:09] <popey> thats cute