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tsdgeosoh man09:03
tsdgeoscan't get the dash test to fail anymore :D09:03
mhr3sil2100, when auto-landing a project to distro, how is the changelog created?10:19
mhr3sil2100, does it take commit msg of each rev *unless* that commit also changed debian/changelog?10:20
sil2100mhr3: yes10:24
sil2100mhr3: if a commit changed/touched the changelog, then the commit message for that revision is not added10:25
mhr3good to know, thx10:25
mpttvoss, I vaguely remember hearing that Mir’s application awareness would fix bug 780776. Is that correct? And if so, how?10:31
ubot5bug 780776 in unity (Ubuntu) "Launcher - No feedback when application launched elsewhere" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/78077610:31
mpte.g. opening a document from the file manager, or a music player from the sound menu10:31
tvossmpt, right, although we haven't implemented user feedback, yet. But in theory, it would solve the issue10:32
mpttvoss, is the feedback design specified somewhere?10:36
tvossmpt, I don't think so, surely not for the desktop use-case10:37
mpttvoss, a job for katie then perhaps?10:38
tvossmpt, yup, I would think that you will be involved, too :)10:38
dednickCimi: ping12:13
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dednickCimi: looks like that test issue with ubuntu-settings-components is a qt bug. I've filed a bug with them, skipped the test for now and added a TODO for when it is fixed.12:16
dandraderMirv, I'm at a loss on how to proceed with https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/125805712:44
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1258057 in Unity API "unity-api fails to build against Qt 5.2" [Critical,In progress]12:44
dandraderMirv, any suggestions?12:44
Mirvdandrader: so qt5-beta2 PPA + git snapshot of qt declarative (and only qt declarative) works? then maybe the snapshot would be worth considering indeed. it just adds to the uncertainty, but if we already know there's a component that's broken in a sense (qt declarative), then I guess it wouldn't do more harm.12:50
Mirvand yes it's a stable branch, but sometimes indeed the minor stable releases aren't that minor either12:50
dandraderMirv, yes (assuming qt5-beta2 PPA is essentially git tag v5.2.0)12:51
dandraderMirv, problem is: 1 - there isn't a single commit to cherry-pick that fixes it. we need to bring in a number of commits12:52
dandraderMirv, 2 - it fixes the testLauncher crash but causes testApplication to fail12:52
dandraderMirv, so, taking in the latest qtdeclarative stable branch improves our situation (moving from a crash to a failure) but doesn't completely solve it12:54
dandraderMirv, to a course of action could be taking qtdeclarative stable branch an filing a qtbug on that failure, which looks like a regression regarding qobject enums not visible on the qml side12:55
dandraders/to a/so a12:56
dandraderbut then, we don't know what other problems or regressions might come along that newer qtdeclarative, as you said...12:56
Mirvdandrader: yeah or it's still ~rc since I'm rebuilding all final releases in qt5-daily at the moment. but yes I'd consider failure better than a crasher, so it's at least worth considering, but I'll concentrate on rebuilding all of final releases now first (and rebuilding everything against them, then)12:59
Mirvthere's of course a chance that unity-api would behave slightly differently also with the final release vs. the release candidate in rc2, so worth checking first12:59
greybackhi ho13:00
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tsdgeosdednick|lunch: standup?14:31
tsdgeosmzanetti: ↑↑14:31
tvossSaviq, ping14:32
mzanettitedg: sorry... trashed my PC14:32
mzanettiwill try to join asap14:32
mzanettitsdgeos: ^^14:33
tsdgeosok14:33
tsdgeostvoss: he's out today14:33
tvosstsdgeos, ack and thx14:33
tsdgeosmzanetti: we're done i guess you can fill in your notes and just shout here if it's something that you need us to act on14:36
dednick|lunchdoh. missed it14:37
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tsdgeosdednick: same applies to you :-)14:38
dednicktsdgeos: yep. wil do14:38
mzanettitsdgeos: yeah... nothing really. I've just been working on the right edge with unfortunately very little progress so far today.14:40
tsdgeosok :-)14:40
mzanettihave been following the wrong approach and had to go back one step14:40
dednickIs Cimi not in today?14:44
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jnanybody?16:45
jnhow to reinstall unity after installing gnome.16:45
jn?16:45
dandradertsdgeos, so VerticalJournal.horizontalSpacing is indeed different than Grid.columnSpacing?16:46
tsdgeosis the horizontal spacing16:46
tsdgeosboth between columns and between the borders of the item16:47
tsdgeosbeing a minimum bound at the right side of course16:47
dandradertsdgeos, that must be documented16:47
tsdgeoswhat other thing can it be?16:48
dandradertsdgeos, I would expect it to be like Grid.columnSpacing16:48
tsdgeoswell, but it's not called columnSpacing :D16:48
dandradertsdgeos, so your horizontalSpacing is like a margin16:49
tsdgeosdandrader: so you'd prefer stuff to start x=0 instead of x=horizontalSpacing16:49
tsdgeosi understand?16:49
dandradertsdgeos, I prefer to have the meaning of that property documented to avoid ambiguities and misunderstandings16:50
tsdgeosthat's not the answer i want :D16:50
tsdgeosi am asking API wise16:50
tsdgeosdo you think it makes more sense for it to be what i say or not16:51
tsdgeoswe're trying to make this good16:51
tsdgeosso i'm asking what you think makes more sense16:51
dandradertsdgeos, I would prefer s/horizontalSpacing/columnSpacing16:51
dandradertsdgeos, that margin can be done via other means16:51
dandradertsdgeos, yield more flexibility to the layout16:52
dandradertsdgeos, you use Item's native margin properties to achieve that spacing between the edge columns and the item borders16:52
dandradertsdgeos, and also mimicking an existing API (Qt's Grid) has the added benefit of having the overall API more uniform and fit better together16:54
dandradertsdgeos, A developer used to work with Grid will have a much lower learning curve if his existing API expectations can be directly transfered when working with VerticalJournal16:54
tsdgeosdandrader: ok, can you please add that comment to the review?16:58
tsdgeoswill need to change it for vSpacing too16:58
dandradertsdgeos, ok16:59
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tsdgeosthanks :-)17:05
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tsdgeosdandrader: as for the tryFoo17:08
tsdgeoswe dont' support what you envision :D17:08
tsdgeosyou can't remove items from the middle17:09
tsdgeosthis only works with static models17:09
tsdgeosyou can make it grow17:09
tsdgeosbecause that's kind of static17:09
tsdgeosbut that's all17:09
tsdgeosor shrink from the end17:10
tsdgeosdandrader: that ok?17:13
dandradertsdgeos, didn't get the "static model" explanation but, anyway, you can still push and pop (like in a stack), right?17:15
dandradertsdgeos, if so, the tryVerticalJournal still makes sense17:16
tsdgeosdandrader: basically we don't support removing from the model17:16
tsdgeoserrr17:16
tsdgeosmodel/middle17:16
tsdgeosyou can add stuff at the end and remove from the end17:16
tsdgeosand that's it17:17
tsdgeosbut sure i am not saying it does not make sense17:17
tsdgeosi'm just setting your expectations17:17
tsdgeosthat said17:17
tsdgeosEOD-time17:17
tsdgeostty tomorro17:17
tsdgeosw17:17
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tedggreyback, Hey, so doing more timing tests.20:49
tedggreyback, It seems that the observer for the starting signal is taking 63ms inside the unity codebase (dbus overhead stripped)20:49
tedggreyback, Is that expected?  Seems like a while.20:50
kgunnveebers: hey, hope you're well...just wanted to point out...this one is makin' the news21:01
kgunnhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/unity8/+bug/126086021:01
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1260860 in Unity 8 "some autopilot tests don't use process_helpers" [High,Triaged]21:01
kgunncausing random failures on maguro...can you treat with priority ?21:02
veebersHi kgunn, I'm currently on vacation so time in front of my laptop is spotty. I should be able to look at this morning if it's priority though. Should be easy enough to fix for any dev though21:05
kgunnveebers: ack, are you off for christmas ?21:05
veeberskgunn: aye, off until Jan 6th21:06
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