[13:54] <rick_h__> morning
[13:55] <widox> a frigid morning
[13:56] <rick_h__> yea, fireplace hacking today
[13:57] <brousch> My roof started leaking yesterday. I had to go up there, clean off the ice and snow, then inside I had to belly-crawl through the attic and patch it with stinky roof patch stuff
[13:58] <rick_h__> oh joy
[13:59] <jrwren> brousch: OH NO!
[14:00] <brousch> So despite my nose hairs freezing this morning, I think it is a better day
[14:00] <rick_h__> no water > water
[14:37] <cmaloney> Good morning
[14:38] <brousch> yes!
[15:05] <jrwren> Need to get 0 B/61.8 MB of archives.
[15:05] <jrwren> After this operation, 259 MB of additional disk space will be used.
[15:05] <jrwren> HOLY CRAP! kernels are HUGE
[15:05] <cmaloney> Has this changed recently? I thought kernels were always a bit on the hefty side.
[15:05] <jrwren> i have no idea.
[15:07] <rick_h__> yea, why they needed to auto clean those up. Amazed how big a bunch of old kernels can take up space. Especially when I used to keep a small /boot
[15:08] <brousch> hah, 10MB /boot. Those were the days
[15:10] <jrwren> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6583851/   NOOOO!!!!!   right as I was typing "i have no idea"
[15:12] <cmaloney> jrwren: Ouch
[15:12] <cmaloney> Is that a CDROM or a HDD?
[15:12] <jrwren> disk
[15:12] <cmaloney> Ugh
[15:13] <cmaloney> Older machine?
[15:13] <jrwren> no, my primary home server
[15:13] <jrwren> i probably would have crashed but my rootfs is mirrored
[15:13] <cmaloney> Time to upgrade. :)
[15:13] <jrwren> maybe it is under warranty
[15:14] <cmaloney> When did you get the drive?
[15:14] <jrwren> dunno, not sure which drive it is yet
[15:14] <cmaloney> Most of the consumer drives I've seen have warranties that are either 90 days or 5 years
[15:16] <jrwren> ha! was looking for kernel boot log and noticed same error on Nov 19.
[15:20] <jrwren> how do I find device info for ata8 if my kernel log has rotated away?
[15:20] <cmaloney> dmesg?
[15:25] <jrwren> scrolled away
[15:25] <jrwren> answer: follow symlinks in /sys/block/ and ask hdparm
[15:25] <jrwren> its a samsung HD204UI
[15:25] <jrwren> I have two of those, hdparm shows me the serial number so I know which to replace
[15:25] <jrwren> YAY
[15:34] <cmaloney> dmesg | grep ata8 | less ? ;)
[15:34] <cmaloney> But that works too. ;)
[15:36] <jrwren> no, that doesn't work.
[15:36] <jrwren> becuase i've been up for 50 days and iptables and other things logged so much to kernel that the boot messages are long out of the dmesg buffer
[15:37] <jrwren> its even gone from /var/log/kern.* :(
[15:38] <cmaloney> ah
[21:11] <snap-l> Afternoon
[21:12] <jrwren> GOOD AFTERNOON!
[22:08] <rick_h__> ugh, slippery driveway fail
[22:08]  * rick_h__ needs to put away the summer slip on shoes
[22:14] <jrwren> lol, yeah, BOOTS FTW!