[00:00] <Ivanov> beldar, can't install multisystem, dependencies are borked, that is the reason i am trying to switch OS lol
[00:00] <glitsj16> adamjames: atheros is usually well supported in the linux kernel, never had the specific AR5523 though, if i find something usefull i'll drop it here
[00:01] <adamjames> glitsj16: much appreciated. been a long time since i'v had this much trouble with something like this.
[00:01] <Sebastien> i do not understand how to get the PGP fingerprint out of my os to sign the code of conduct from launchpad.net
[00:01] <Sebastien> can someone help me out, ? i just installed 12.04
[00:01] <Beldar> Ivanov, You might try unetbootin or just dd
[00:01] <Ivanov> not sure any of this, i havent used linux in years
[00:02] <glitsj16> adamjames: do you have the linux-firmware package installed? it references the ar5523 specifically on my 13.04
[00:02] <freshmint> hi, is there a gui/terminal tool available for generating qrcode pdfs?
[00:03] <bekks> freshmint: LaTeX can generate those.
[00:03] <michagogo|cloud> Sebastien: in the terminal, run `gpg --list-secret-keys`
[00:04] <Beldar> Ivanov, post #3 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2052939
[00:04] <Sebastien> michangogo|cloud, nothin happens.
[00:04] <michagogo|cloud> Sebastien: Erm, do you *have* a GPG key?
[00:04] <Sebastien> no
[00:04] <michagogo|cloud> If not, `gpg --gen-key`
[00:04] <Sebastien> its a fresh install, all updated.
[00:04] <michagogo|cloud> (I think that's the command)
[00:05] <michagogo|cloud> If that's not the command, `gpg --help` and see what the command there is
[00:06] <Ivanov> beldar, for <iso> i use the ubuntu iso filename?
[00:06] <adamjames> glitsj16: appears not, how did you determine that? on your machine?
[00:06] <Beldar> Ivanov, yeah
[00:06] <glitsj16> adamjames: i looked at the installed files tab in synaptic for that package
[00:07] <glitsj16> adamjames: but you can list files from packages you don't have installed through the web: packages.ubuntu.com
[00:08] <Ivanov> Beldar, ok its working its butt off so hopefull this will work, if not when i reboot i will be back heh
[00:08] <Beldar> Ivanov, Cool I never dd however it's pretty straight forward.
[00:08] <adamjames> glitsj16: i dont have a gui for synaptic. i will look into the other, thanks.
[00:08] <Ivanov> Beldar, yeah it seems straightforward: dd if=ubuntu-12.04.3-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdd1
[00:09] <Beldar> Ivanov, I believe the dd goes just to the drive not a partition.
[00:09] <Ivanov> should i format the stick again first?
[00:10] <Beldar> Ivanov, No format it will just be on the stick I believe.
[00:10] <Beldar> just a partition table
[00:10] <Ivanov> ok i am restarting it on /dev/sdd the
[00:10] <Ivanov> then*
[00:16] <Ivanov> Beldar, its done, do i just try booting into it now?
[00:16] <Beldar> Ivanov, Yeah, and remember the f6 nomodeset if needed.
[00:16] <Ivanov> i have a decent GPU, im sure it will work once it boots off the USB :D
[00:17] <Ivanov> here goes nothing
[00:18] <pentester> can you do a net install of ubuntu studio
[00:18] <Beldar> pentester, I would ask in #ubuntustudio if its in the repos as such then yes.
[00:19] <Aikar_> Hi - When enabling xinerama on my SLI system, with gdm I cant get to login, with lightdm i can login with all 3 monitors, but on login, desktop doesnt load. plugging 2 into same gpu and twinview is fine, but need xinerama for triple head
[00:19] <pentester> ok
[00:19] <Aikar_> ive tried nvidia 313 and now on 304
[00:19] <sebastien> i am not sure how to upload my GPG key to the key server in 12.04
[00:20] <sebastien> any help pls :(
[00:20] <Beldar> pentester, I see ubuntustudio-desktop in the repos
[00:21] <pentester> Beldar: would I just do a ubuntu net install? Then choose that package?
[00:21] <k1l_> sebastien: http://www.wikihow.com/Sign-the-Ubuntu-Code-of-Conduct  this is a howto with pictures, maybe you have more luck with that
[00:21] <Beldar> pentester, The net install allows a base install no desktop, then run a install of that I would assume, I would do it on a reboot to the cli after the base install.
[00:22] <sebastien> it says: To do this, in Passwords and Encryption Keys, select the My Personal Keys tab, and then your key. Next, open the Remote menu and click Sync and Publish Keys... and then press the Sync button. You may need to select the Ubuntu keyserver using the 'Key Servers' button first.
[00:22] <Beldar> pentester, Unless you see it in a install option list.
[00:22] <sebastien> but i do not find the REMOTE button.
[00:23] <acovrig> What do you recommend I use to convert a bunch of pngs to pdfs?
[00:23] <pentester> Beldar: il see what pops up
[00:24] <acovrig> I tried 'convert -quality 100 "$l".png "$l".pdf' and end up with pdfs with a bunch of white space on the right side...
[00:24] <sebastien> k1l_: http://pbrd.co/1gAwIlI
[00:24] <sebastien> this is what i get ^ where is the "remote" button ? am i blind? :p
[00:26] <Beldar> pentester, Cool, I am assuming the desktop install works, seems logical, hehe.
[00:26] <jmgk> hi Snake2k
[00:26] <glitsj16> sebastien: you might see it on the global menu bar, move your mouse near the left upper part and it should reveal
[00:26] <pentester> Beldar: I just got the burn.iso
[00:27] <nbros652> anybody out there know if it's possible to get av codecs from windows (.dll, .ax files) to work in Ubuntu?
[00:27] <sebastien> oh, i think i got it.
[00:27] <glitsj16> sebastien: takes some getting used to the menu's not integrated in the app window
[00:27] <Beldar> pentester, Net loads are good they install the latest, no updates afterwards.
[00:29] <Aikar> ive tried nvidia 313 and now on 304
[00:29] <Aikar> Hi - When enabling xinerama on my SLI system, with gdm I cant get to login, with lightdm i can login with all 3 monitors, but on login, desktop doesnt load. plugging 2 into same gpu and twinview is fine, but need xinerama for triple head
[00:30] <Aikar> if i start X over a tty, its last line is loading NV-CONTROL
[00:32] <Ivanov> Beldar, no dice
[00:33] <Ivanov> It got stuck in initramfs claiming it couldn't find a live file system to load, after sitting ont he Ubuntu loading screen for a while
[00:33] <Ivanov> at least it booted this time
[00:34] <Aikar> http://aikar.co/db/fail.jpg   < here is screen of me trying to start X, switching TTY then back
[00:35] <michagogo|cloud> sebastien: `gpg --send-keys 89EBD8AA`
[00:35] <aws96> hi
[00:35] <knightshade> Hello
[00:35] <michagogo|cloud> (run that at the terminal)
[00:36] <nbros652> anybody know if it's possible to get av codecs from windows (.dll, .ax files) to work in Ubuntu?
[00:36] <michagogo|cloud> sebastien: Oh, wait
[00:36] <michagogo|cloud> sebastien: The Remote menu is at the top of your screen, I think
[00:36] <rndmz_> Hey guys, i need help with my Wired Network
[00:37] <zouave> hi, I have an issue with lighttpd. for some reason when I try /lighty-enable-mod mod_alias it says "unknown module", despite the fact that it's installed.
[00:37] <rndmz_> (I'm on my laptop now.. D:)
[00:38] <michagogo|cloud> sebastien: But also, another way of getting the key onto the Ubuntu keyserver is to run the command `gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --send-keys 89EBD8AA` at the Terminal
[00:38] <sebastien> ya,t his i did it
[00:38] <sebastien> and launchpad sas success.
[00:38] <sebastien> now im trying to sign the code of conduct, took me a while to read it :p
[00:38] <michagogo|cloud> (https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/ImportingYourPGPKey seems to be a very good guide to that part)
[00:39] <faces_> hello
[00:40] <faces_> Hi
[00:40] <rndmz_> Halp 8(
[00:40] <faces_> I've read from FoSS
[00:40] <faces_> and the link is broken
[00:40] <faces_> working now
[00:41] <faces_> Thanks
[00:41] <rndmz_> Fuck this
[00:41] <zouave> rndmz_: be more specific
[00:41] <faces_> I need a copy paste
[00:42] <faces_> script
[00:42] <faces_> I don't know where the words I copy do go
[00:44] <faces_> Who can I talk to?
[00:46] <Beldar> faces_, Details and an end goal to the channel.
[00:46] <smokie> heya guys, quick question, how can i make a batch script run at boot?
[00:47] <cheerupcharlie> Can I update to mailman 2.1.15 on 12.04?  It's currently in the repos for 13.04 but I don't waqnt to have to upgrade the whole system if I don't have to. (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mailman)
[00:48] <Beldar> cheerupcharlie, you can look for a ppa, however ppa's and installs out of release are not supported basically.
[00:49] <Ivanov> Beldar, any ideas why it says theres no live filesystem to load?
[00:50] <onetinsoldier> cheerupcharlie: you could try compiling from source and use "checkinstall" to install it
[00:51] <Beldar> Ivanov, Not really, for me I never have a problem here so not an area I can really do more than google for info.
[00:51] <Ivanov> yeah i am trying a format, then another dd into /dev/sdd1 this time
[00:51] <Beldar> Ivanov, Be sure to check the sum of the iso at some point.
[00:52] <Ivanov> how do i do that?
[00:52] <Beldar> if it still seems to fail
[00:52] <Beldar> !md5sum | Ivanov
[00:52] <Ivanov> yeah i should do that before i go too far lol
[00:52] <Beldar> hehe might be a good idea
[00:53] <Ivanov> yeah the sum is good
[00:53] <Ivanov> but do i want desktop or desktop-alternate?
[00:54] <Beldar> Ivanov, Not sure what the "desktop or desktop-alternate?" would be to be honest.
[00:55] <Beldar> Ivanov, The alternate in 12.04 is a cd gui install I believe.
[00:55] <Beldar> no desktop
[00:55] <Ivanov> yeah
[00:56] <Beldar> Ivanov, alternate is okay, you mentioned wiping the HD I believe to install it can be done from it.
[00:56] <Beldar> just the whole HD option will do it
[00:57] <Beldar> Ivanov, or a choice of space if you want a dualboot
[00:57] <Ivanov> yeah if this fails i will alternate
[00:57] <Beldar> Ivanov, It is not uncommon to see people here needing the nomodeset option, just a heads upu is all.
[00:57] <onetinsoldier> cheerupcharlie: hello?
[00:57] <Beldar> up*
[00:58] <Ivanov> yeah grub didnt come up on my usb though it just instantly jumped to a GUI ubuntu bootscreen
[00:58] <cheerupcharlie> onetinsoldier, Yes, I'm here.  I was looking up checkinstall.  Sounds promising.
[00:58] <Beldar> Ivanov, You wont see grub persay as in a regular install on a install boot.
[00:59] <Rask01> close
[00:59] <Rask01> close
[00:59] <Rask01> close
[00:59] <FloodBot1> Rask01: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:59] <Beldar> Ivanov, I believe it is a syslinux boot a choice screen.
[01:00] <onetinsoldier> cheerupcharlie: okay. i would normally recommend that you go to "packages.ubuntu.com" to downloaded the .deb source package from 13.04. but i  can't get packages.ubuntu.com to load. it seems down right now
[01:00] <Ivanov> well, i end up instantly at the ubuntu loading screen when i start it
[01:00] <Ivanov> does the drive need to be unmounted when i do dd?
[01:01] <cheerupcharlie> onetinsoldier, I found .deb packages at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mailman  Would those work?
[01:01] <ceciymaxi> so I need to do a fresh install on my 64bits laptop. 12.04 or 13.10?
[01:01] <onetinsoldier> cheerupcharlie: i don't think it has the source package(s) for mailman on there
[01:02] <freshmint> bekks, i found qrencode which is exactly what i was looking for to generate qrcode for file urls on my webspace in a bash script - work awesome
[01:03] <onetinsoldier> cheerupcharlie: it may be possible to find out where a .tar.bz2 source file of mailman is on the internet and try it
[01:03] <freshmint> bekks, i believe there originally exists a python-qrencode library and it was takin from there as far as i understood. though i am not too familiar with python so the bash command is  the better way
[01:04] <cheerupcharlie> onetinsoldier, if you open up the arrow next to Quantal or Raring it gives the option to download .deb files.  Are you saying I have to have the source because the distros are that much different?
[01:05] <onetinsoldier> cheerupcharlie: you can always try that. but usually it will tell you that you need to have the libc6 of the ubuntu version it was compiled upon in order to install the binary package
[01:06] <onetinsoldier> cheerupcharlie: in other words, a dependency upon the libc6 that the binary was compiled for
[01:06] <cheerupcharlie> onetinsoldier, OK.  Thanks.  Last resort I'll upgrade to 13.04.  I'll try to compile it first.  Seems a waste to update the whole system for one app.
[01:07] <onetinsoldier> cheerupcharlie: okay, good luck
[01:07] <Beldar> cheerupcharlie, Whay are you doing this?
[01:07] <Beldar> Why*
[01:07] <omabena> hello, someone could help me with this, I'm trying to run memtest, but I get: Error: too small lower memory (0x99100 > 0x8f000)
[01:09] <cheerupcharlie> Beldar, I have a user that's using 12.04 and really wants mailman 1:2.1.15 because of a vulnerability thats ben fixed since hos current 1:2.1.14.  I don't want to spend the time upgrading the whole system if I don't have to.
[01:10] <cheerupcharlie> Beldar, he's willing to go to 13.04, but I was hoping I could drop a .deb package into his system and update the package without the hassle
[01:11] <Beldar> cheerupcharlie, The vulnerability fixed is not done with the install they have?
[01:13] <cheerupcharlie> Beldar, I'd have to check.  He says no.  Apparently one of his users (see how complicated this is getting?) discovered a vulnerability and the report that it's been addressed in the 1.2.1.15, but 1.2.1.15 isn't available for 12.04.  He wants me upgrade him to 13.04, which is fine.  I just don't want to upgrade everything if I don't have to.
[01:14] <Beldar> cheerupcharlie, I would check, I see bug reports as well.
[01:15] <Beldar> I would assume any fixes would be applied to a stick lts is all
[01:15] <Beldar> stock
[01:15] <cheerupcharlie> Me too.  That's another reason I'm hesitant to move him off 12.04 if I don't have to
[01:16] <Beldar> cheerupcharlie, Yeah 13.04 is about to go eol as well.
[01:17] <cheerupcharlie> Beldar, so, if he insists, you think I can build from source and use checkinstall?
[01:18] <Beldar> cheerupcharlie, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases I can't say on that to be honest.
[01:19] <Beldar> cheerupcharlie, someone insisting is an enabling situation I would be careful with that myself. I would have to check how well informed they really are.
[01:21] <cheerupcharlie> Beldar, I agree.  Thanks for the reminder.  I need to research this more myself bfore I make a decision.
[01:21] <Beldar> sure, no problem
[01:58] <lickalott> gents, can anyone offer a good backup/imaging solution for Ubuntu?  I've played with FSarchiver (didn't like it) and clonezilla, but clonezilla is a little more intrusive than I wanted.  i'm looking for a linux equivalent to Acronis
[02:04] <munz> lickalott: acronis has a linux server package w/bare metal
[02:04] <munz> http://www.acronis.com/backup-recovery/smallbusiness.html#products-linux-server
[02:04] <shine_> hi
[02:05] <lickalott> hi munz!  Thanks for the reply.   Any other opinons/options?
[02:05] <munz> for real imaging, idk, i use the builtin backup for my systems
[02:05] <lickalott> talk to me goose
[02:05] <munz> but its not real image type,
[02:06] <lickalott> can you rebuild a system with it?
[02:06] <lickalott> or is it just data archival
[02:07] <munz> just data i think
[02:07] <Beldar> lickalott, If you are just trying to image/clone use clonezilla
[02:07] <lickalott> Beldar, do you use it?
[02:07] <Beldar> lickalott, On regular installs yes.
[02:08] <lickalott> I messed with it.  The "bootable" usb drive works, but it is too intrusive for me.
[02:08] <lickalott> the install to disk option seems like a pita and from what i've read is a little risky
[02:08] <lickalott> thoughts? ^^
[02:09] <Beldar> never failed here, research what you read, generally it is just subjective opinions, like mine is.
[02:10] <lickalott> you installed it to the hdd and everything works fine?
[02:10] <lickalott> basically i want to set a cron job for it.  (fire and forget)
[02:11] <munz> lickalott: it is in the repos
[02:11] <munz> clonezilla that is
[02:11] <Beldar> I have never seen any claims of risk with clonezilla, and have restored numerous installs, any real backup is more than one if your really worried.
[02:12] <lickalott> i didn't know that munz.  I just started googling and came across some stuff.
[02:12] <lickalott> http://clonezilla.org/liveusb.php#linux-setup
[02:12] <munz> yea i did the cd thing also
[02:13] <munz> no luck an djust now found it in the repos
[02:13] <munz> i need a good backup also
[02:13] <lickalott> i'll try it and see.  Just found a good rls of acronis too.  i'll report my opinions.
[02:13] <munz> if this is good i will be really happy :)
[02:13] <munz> sweet!
[02:13] <lickalott> did you use the synaptic munz
[02:13] <lickalott> i'm running server
[02:14] <munz> i just sudo apt-get install clonezilla
[02:15] <lickalott> unable to locate package
[02:15] <lickalott> i'm on 12.04 (to maintain the LTS)
[02:16] <Beldar> !find clonezilla
[02:16] <Beldar> !info clonezilla
[02:16] <lickalott> whats the command to search the repos for stuff?
[02:17] <cfhowlett> lickalott, apt-cache search foo
[02:17] <munz> im on 13.10
[02:17] <Beldar> I use the usb version from their site, never tried the repos version.
[02:18] <munz> jus checked my 12.04 and not there
[02:23] <lickalott> i'm going in.  I just backed up all my stuff so it won't be a huge devistation if I lose it again (cause I'll likey screw this up the first time....lol)
[02:23] <dimitrilc> Is there anybody here that can help me with setting up my DNS Server
[02:23] <munz> goodluck lickalott
[02:24] <lickalott> whats your question dimitrilc
[02:24] <lickalott> tks munz
[02:24] <munz> np :)
[02:24] <dimitrilc> I have the error <** server can't find ddns.local: NXDOMAIN>
[02:24] <munz>  Beldar: clonezilla is just imaging like ghost right?
[02:25] <lickalott> when doing what dimitrilc
[02:25] <lickalott> we need details homey
[02:25] <dimitrilc> when I do nslookup ddns.local
[02:25] <lickalott> who is your dns through?
[02:26] <dimitrilc> I just finished configuring my zone files and named.conf. Restarted named service.
[02:26] <dimitrilc> what do you mean?
[02:26] <gludovic> Hi everyone, I am new with Ubuntu, and I have a problem with my microphone, is there anyone here who can help me please?
[02:27] <dimitrilc> I am setting up a local BIND server.
[02:27] <cfhowlett> dimitrilc, server?  #ubuntu-server
[02:28] <dimitrilc> K
[02:28] <lickalott> good luck with that.....
[02:28] <lickalott> those cats NEVER talk
[02:28] <cfhowlett> :)
[02:28] <lickalott> lol
[02:28] <gludovic> Hi
[02:30] <stef1a> I am trying to install packages with apt-get, but I get the following error: "Errors were encountered while processing: redmine
[02:31] <stef1a> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[02:31] <hitsujiTMO> stef1a: can you pastebin the full output
[02:31] <cfhowlett> gludovic, greetings
[02:32] <knfbny> stef1a: you dont have something open like synaptic or something ?
[02:33] <stef1a> hitsujiTMO: okay: http://pastie.org/8554933
[02:34] <stef1a> knfbny: i don't know; i'm just using apt-get via command line
[02:35] <gludovic> Is anyone can help me to enable my microphone?
[02:36] <hitsujiTMO> stef1a: looks like a broken package. is this from a ppa?
[02:36] <stef1a> hitsujiTMO: i honestly don't remember. i had LOTS of trouble with redmine and didn't complete the installation during my upgrade from 13.04 -> 13.10
[02:38] <hitsujiTMO> most likely a ppa then. Not sure how to advise on that then since this is happening after an upgrade. The norm is to purge the ppa and start again. But the ppa might not be installed now that you've upgrade.
[02:39] <stef1a> okay. i'll remove redmine and then reinstall it.
[02:40] <hitsujiTMO> !ppa-purge: stef1a try to remove it with this if its a ppa
[02:40] <hitsujiTMO> !ppa-purge | stef1a try to remove it with this if its a ppa
[02:42] <stef1a> hitsujiTMO: ty
[02:44] <acu2> I want to connect through ssh as sudo me or root - -- remotely to a server by using Nautilus connect to server - how can I do that ? In nautilus there is no option for connect as sudo - and the remote server has no root enabled to be connected through ssh
[02:45] <stef1a> hitsujiTMO: i can't install ppa-purge bc of redmine
[02:45] <stef1a> time to just purge it by the command line
[02:46] <hitsujiTMO> stef1a: apt-get purge then
[02:46] <hitsujiTMO> :(
[02:47] <stef1a> hitsujiTMO: it works
[02:48] <stef1a> my next problem is that i cannot change the timezone.
[02:49] <hitsujiTMO> sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[02:53] <lickalott> Beldar do I need all of the DRBL stuff to install to the system?
[02:54] <stef1a> hitsujiTMO: that kind of works
[02:54] <astropirate> Friends, are there ny new experimental "out of the box" Desktop managers out there? I am tired of whats already out there   so far the best combo seems to be  xmoand with unity2d or kde
[02:54] <stef1a> hitsujiTMO: it doesn't change the clock time in the upper right corner
[02:54] <pachitus> anybody from Mexico?
[02:55] <hax-> aloha amigos
[02:55] <hax-> como estas
[02:55] <hax-> donde esta cerveza!
[02:55] <stef1a> aloha?
[02:55] <hax-> lol oh shit
[02:56] <hax-> that wasnt spanish was it
[02:56] <hax-> :P
[02:56] <cfhowlett> !es
[02:56] <jmgk> it was
[02:56] <jmgk> :P
[02:56] <astropirate> nein
[02:56] <jmgk> where is brain
[02:56] <jmgk> :P
[02:56] <jmgk> or head
[02:56] <FloodBot1> jmgk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:56] <hax-> hehe
[02:56] <hitsujiTMO> stef1a: I think that has its own independent setting in the time & date settings. either that or it only refreshes after a reboot
[02:57] <IdleOne> !language | hax-
[02:57] <stef1a> hitsujiTMO: i see. i will try to reboot...
[02:57] <otak> astropirate: http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=18273
[02:57] <hax-> oh my bad lol
[02:57] <hax-> I have a sailors mouth
[02:57] <hax-> and apparently sailors fingers
[02:57] <hax-> :(
[02:57] <cfhowlett> hax-, if we could get back on topic of ubuntu support please...
[02:58] <hax-> why of course
[02:58] <acu2> I need sudo rights to edit a file in /var/www and want to connect through Nautilus - is that possible ? If no, how can I let root login thhrough Nautilus ssh ?
[02:58] <hax-> no sudoers file in ubu?
[02:59] <pachitus> Thanks ubottu
[02:59] <cfhowlett> hax-, in terminal: whereis sudoers
[02:59] <deib97> hi
[02:59] <cfhowlett> deib97, greetings
[03:01] <lickalott> cfhowlett you have any experience with clonezilla, specifically installing to the hdd
[03:02] <cfhowlett> lickalott, no experience whatsoever.  sorry.  stay and ask in channel ... someone here  will have that knowledge
[03:03] <acu2> how can I allow root to login as ssh in ubuntu ?
[03:03] <cfhowlett> !root|acu2,
[03:03] <Jordan_U> acu2: That's usually a very bad idea. What is your end goal?
[03:03] <lickalott> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/allow-root-account-to-use-ssh-openssh/
[03:04] <onetinsoldier> there is no spoon
[03:04] <lickalott> i wouldn't do it acu2
[03:04] <acu2> Jordan_U to connect to a server through Nautilus and edit some files that only sudo can change
[03:04] <lickalott> as soon as you get in there just type sudo -i
[03:05] <acu2> lickalott, did you use Nautilus ?  File Connect to Server (where is that option you are talking about ?)
[03:06] <acu2> I am not talking about normal cli - that is no brainer sudo nano whatever - I am talking about connecting through Nautilus
[03:06] <lickalott> so I stick with putty.  once you've authenticated you can do that (in putty) not sure about nautilus
[03:06] <lickalott> lemme look into it
[03:06] <Jordan_U> acu2: What files are you trying to modify? It may make sense to change their permissions to allow modification by a non-root user (or it may not, it depends on which files).
[03:06] <acu2> lickalott, putty is for windows, I have no windows machines
[03:06] <IdleOne> acu2: the proper way to edit files in /var/www would be to add your user (the one that has sudo privs) to the www group
[03:07] <acu2> Jordan they are in a webserver /var/www/mysite (probably www-data is the owner
[03:07] <Jordan_U> acu2: Then see IdleOne's answer above :)
[03:08] <Iriez> So hey guys. I have a windows 7 install with a separate partition with a encrypted lvm with 2 volumes (root and swap). Im having a real difficult time getting grub to install the bootloader correctly
[03:08] <Iriez> I've tried boot repair but it does not resolve
[03:08] <Iriez> http://stephentanner.com/index.php/2011/05/restoring-grub-for-an-encrypted-lvm/
[03:08] <Iriez> and just did that one right htere
[03:08] <Iriez> and still no dice
[03:08] <lickalott> you'll need to edit files on the server side
[03:08] <FloodBot1> Iriez: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:08] <lickalott> what is the server running?
[03:08] <Iriez> If anyone could give me a hand I would greatly appreciate it :)
[03:09] <cave> sup y'all
[03:09] <kreuger> hey all
[03:09] <lickalott> Iriez have you tried easyBCD?
[03:09] <onetinsoldier> hi cave and kreuger
[03:09] <cave> a little mouse returns.... in cogneato
[03:09] <Iriez> lickalott: no, i will search/try that now
[03:10] <onetinsoldier> cave: just contemplating how... there is no spoon
[03:10] <kreuger> im having an issue logging onto my desktop running xubuntu 12.10. tried the xubuntu channel but its pretty dead
[03:10] <cave> sup kreuger
[03:10] <lickalott> so... anyone have any experience installing clonezilla to the harddrive and setting up a cron job to clone?
[03:10] <acu2> Iriez: I think you cannot boot from a encrypted partition - usually when I have complex stuff I would have a /boot then everything else,, however for  a win linux is a different story -did not do encryption along with dualbooting -
[03:11] <acu2> kreuger describe issue
[03:11] <Iriez> ah
[03:11] <Iriez> I need to boot into windows to use this easybcd eh?
[03:11] <Iriez> And will it support the encrypted LVM for ubuntu?
[03:11] <lickalott> for the first time
[03:11] <Jordan_U> Iriez: I don't see how easyBCD can help you with this problem.
[03:11] <kreuger> im trying to copy paste, bare with me
[03:11] <cave> just look around it's all good
[03:11] <Iriez> Correct, I do not think it will
[03:11] <lickalott> your LVM is going to be largely based on the grub.  LVM doesn't put/place partition tables
[03:11] <Iriez> I've read several articles in which people dual booted in this environment
[03:12] <Jordan_U> Iriez: How did you try to install grub? What error message did you get when you did? Is your /boot/ part of the encrypted LVM volume?
[03:12] <kreuger> I just get the spinning icon that shows it's loading. I've tried ctrl+alt+f1/2/3/4 to try and get a terminal but cant. It happened before and I was able to get the termina
[03:12] <Iriez> No, boot is its own partition
[03:12] <kreuger> I remember trying to use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but nothing would happen when I ran it, even as root. This computer has been down for so long because I keep putting it off, but I really need it back.
[03:12] <Iriez> I've tried grub install from boot-repair within ubuntu, and with the boot repair rescue disc, and following the tut i pasted of the URL above with system rescue disc
[03:12] <Iriez> which was specifically designed for my exact scenario
[03:12] <Iriez> so super bummed it didnt work
[03:13] <lickalott> I loaded ubuntu (at one time) and fedora (on another occasion) - dual booting on a winblows box and BCD worked fine both times.
[03:13] <kreuger> I think I have LightDM on it too
[03:13] <Iriez> frustratingly enough, i had it working
[03:13] <Iriez> and then i went and tried to truecrypt my windows 7 install
[03:13] <Iriez> to dual boot dual encrypted
[03:13] <Jordan_U> Iriez: I asked three questions, so far you've answered only two of them.
[03:13] <Iriez> and thats when things just got broken
[03:13] <Iriez> and i decided to start over again :)
[03:14] <cave> gotta go brb
[03:14] <Iriez> Jordan: When installing grub from the ubuntu alternative cd i got errors and i do not believe it states what those errors are in the alternative cd
[03:14] <Iriez> when doing boot repair i follow the instructions it gives, and attempt to boot and it boots to a grub rescue screen
[03:14] <acu2> Iriez: you need to make a plain partition perhaps /boot or something - so the boot can occur - using lvm and encrypt it - I think grub does not work - again you can have windows some other ext4 partition for boot and others for lvm and encrypt - and you can encrypt them after lvm as both are abstraction layers
[03:14] <Jordan_U> Iriez: What about when following the guide you linked to, http://stephentanner.com/index.php/2011/05/restoring-grub-for-an-encrypted-lvm/ ?
[03:14] <Iriez> same with system rescue, no errors, boots to grub rescue
[03:14] <Iriez> I followed that guide to a T, thought it was going to work as there was no errors
[03:15] <lickalott> do you have anything of importance on there Iriez?
[03:15] <Jordan_U> Iriez: OK, so you got no error messages from grub-install, but you're getting an error message (and grub rescue shell) at boot. Correct?
[03:15] <Iriez> lickalot: no, these are fresh installs.
[03:15] <lickalott> after the encryption with truecrypt it might behove you to re-install ubuntu.
[03:15] <Iriez> Jordan_U: correct
[03:16] <Iriez> lickalott: I followed a very specific guide for that piece, but i ran into complications outside the guide's specifications
[03:16] <Iriez> so i figured screw the win 7 crypt
[03:16] <kreuger> any idea for my issue, guys?
[03:16] <Iriez> seems like a ultra pain in my ass anyhow
[03:16] <Jordan_U> Iriez: Do you have more than one hard drive? Can you confirm that this is a BIOS based rather than UEFI based system?
[03:16] <Iriez> No, 1 SSD, i have bios set to CSM
[03:16] <Iriez> i disabled secureboot/UEFI
[03:16] <lickalott> UEFI is win8 isn't it?
[03:16] <Iriez> Yes.
[03:17] <lickalott> is this win7 on a win8 system?
[03:17] <lickalott> kreuger, restate pls
[03:17] <Iriez> win 7
[03:17] <lickalott> dumb question...but have you done any winblows updates since the ubuntu install?
[03:17] <Jordan_U> lickalott: Windows 7 and Windows 8 both can boot via UEFI or BIOS, Windows 8 certified computers though must come with UEFI and Secure boot enabled.
[03:17] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | Iriez
[03:17] <Iriez> before when i installed win7, and then installed ubuntu it seemed to work fine out of the box after the install, this time problems galore :(
[03:18] <kreuger> On my login screen, I just get the spinning icon that shows it's loading. I've tried ctrl+alt+f1/2/3/4 to try and get a terminal but cant. It happened before and I was able to get the termina
[03:18] <kreuger> I remember trying to use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg but nothing would happen when I ran it, even as root. This computer has been down for so long because I keep putting it off, but I really need it ba
[03:18] <Jordan_U> Iriez: Can you confirm that the exact grub-install command you ran at the end of that guide was "grub-install /dev/sda"?
[03:18] <kreuger> Also, I believe I'm using LightDM
[03:18] <Iriez> jordan: I can confirm that, yes
[03:18] <lickalott> can you ssh into it kreuger?  if so can you run an fsck -y?
[03:18] <Iriez> after i mounted /dev/sda4 (boot) to /boot
[03:19] <kreuger> How would I do that?
[03:19] <lickalott> can you ssh into the machine from another?
[03:19] <Jordan_U> Iriez: OK. Please run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces.
[03:19] <kreuger> Im not sure how to do it
[03:19] <Iriez> Jordan: Will do, thanks
[03:19] <lickalott> did you set ssh up?   if you're at the boot screen the network is started
[03:19] <lickalott> what version kreuger
[03:19] <kreuger> No Ive never set it up. And the computer only has wifi so there's no way of knowing if the internet is connected right now
[03:19] <kreuger> 12.10, I believe
[03:21] <kreuger> I've got an external enclosure to try and hook it up to my laptop and see if I could just maybe change the xserver-xorg config but I have no idea if that's even the issue anymore, since I cant even get a terminal
[03:21] <lickalott> ok..  so plan B.  boot from a live cd.  run fdisk -lu, find the partions for that machine (likely /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2(swap) and /dev/sda5).  See if you can mount sda1 to a folder (i.e mkdir /mnt/temp; mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/temp) then fsck -y /mnt/temp
[03:22] <kreuger> Last time I tried, I couldnt get a livecd to boot either. Let me try again and see
[03:23] <lickalott> you aren't married to ubuntu for this (sorry for my next sentence guys).  You can run a suse live CD or fedora live CD to accomplish the fsck
[03:23] <Iriez> Jordan
[03:23] <Iriez> Should i have my encrypted LVM decrypted when running this script?
[03:23] <kreuger> Well I've got a couple of live cds around right now, so I'll try them first. I even made a copy of GParted Live once
[03:23] <Iriez> to give better/more accurate output ?
[03:24] <lickalott> gparted may work too.
[03:24] <kreuger> This seems to be reading the drive but nothing is happening on the screen. it just says Boot from cd/dvd:
[03:24] <lickalott> and you hit enter?
[03:24] <jroldan> currently running lubuntu cant do dual monitors extedend desktop :(
[03:24] <kreuger> yeah. I tried space too
[03:25] <lickalott> gotta ask kreuger...  are you sure your ide and/or sata cables are connected
[03:26] <Iriez> Jordan_U: www.pastebin.com/hM9jrn4Z
[03:26] <kreuger> I can double check but they were the last time I used it. I remember just installing an update and it stopped working. And like I said because I didnt need it I have put off fixing it. But now my laptop is running out of space lol
[03:26] <Iriez> Jordan_U: thats the results with the LVM unlocked.
[03:26] <Iriez> (since i figured that part was neccessary :)
[03:26] <kreuger> Plus, why would I be able to get the loading icon if it wasnt? Or do you mean for the dvd drive?
[03:26] <lickalott> dvd drive
[03:27] <kreuger> well its lighting up and I could hear it spin
[03:27] <kreuger> but ill double check
[03:27] <lickalott> thats power
[03:28] <lickalott> I've done it before that's why I'm asking.  I had power to the drive and because the bios was set to boot from CD for the boot menu, it looked like it should but when I would hit enter nothing would happen.  Ended up not having the ide cable connected
[03:28] <jroldan> Iriez_U: thanks I will try it
[03:29] <lickalott> so....anyone....clonezilla?
[03:29] <kreuger> alright, double checking now. I just lost a screw from my case FML
[03:29] <Iriez> jroldan: Are you Jordan_U on a different client? *confused look*
[03:30] <retanius> any dvd burner recommendations?
[03:31] <retanius> i cant seem to convert to video ts, so i cant get k3b to work
[03:32] <kreuger> Everything looks fine inside
[03:32] <kreuger> @retanius try bombono
[03:32] <lickalott> i've had good luck with iHAS 124b
[03:32] <redtravis> can anyone help? I am trying to install 13.10 on my laptop and it seems as if ubuntu dosent have the drivers for my graphics because I have tried it in UEFI and legacy and the same thing happens for both. it makes noises but I cant see anything. is there a solution?
[03:32] <lickalott> bought it for xbox "backups" but I haven't had any issues with any kind of video conversions
[03:33] <lickalott> could be a software thing too.
[03:33] <Carlton>  /msg NickServ identify grover1
[03:33] <lickalott> kreuger, try another disc or a new burn
[03:33] <kreuger> @redtravis are you getting beeps?
[03:33]  * lickalott auths as Carlton
[03:33] <lickalott> lol
[03:34] <kreuger> Would it be easier to pull this drive and attach it to my laptop seeing as I already have everything open
[03:34] <redtravis> not post beeps but when I move my arrows keys as if I was running out of selections
[03:35] <redtravis> and I also hear the chime that plays when ubuntu loads
[03:35] <lickalott> hdd or dvd drive?
[03:35] <Jordan_U> Iriez: You said that you only had one hard drive, yet that output shows 2.
[03:35] <lickalott> okay...changing gears.  Anyone ever play with FSarchiver?
[03:35] <kreuger> my hdd. I have an external enclosure I can put it in to connect it to my laptop. I just dont know what to do with figuring out why I cant get it to login
[03:36] <kreuger> @redtravis can you get a terminal?
[03:36] <Carlton>  /msg NickServ identify grover1
[03:36] <lickalott> sure.
[03:36] <lickalott> once you do the fdisk -lu it will tell you which partition is ntfs and which is ext2 (or LVM).
[03:36] <kreuger> Did you recommend that I fsck the drive?
[03:36] <lickalott> Carlton....you're throwing your auth password to everyone in the channel
[03:37] <lickalott> as a start, i would
[03:37] <kreuger> ok give me a few
[03:37] <redtravis> nope completly black
[03:37] <redtravis> brb I wanna try something
[03:38] <SchrodingersScat> lickalott: now he has to change it to grover2 >:(
[03:38] <lickalott> lol
[03:38] <lickalott> mine is tittysprinkles
[03:39] <Jordan_U> Iriez: Your computer is probably booting from sdc rather than sda, and sdc's grub installation is broken. To fix this either change the boot order in your BIOS, run "grub-install /dev/sda && grub-install /dev/sdc", or both.
[03:40] <kreuger> damn this hdd is dusty. lol
[03:42] <lickalott> anyone have any love on this - http://pastebin.com/KytJJArw
[03:43] <redtravis> wow I feel like a retard all I had to do was turn up the brightness lol
[03:43] <lickalott> trying to ./configure fsarchiver
[03:43]  * lickalott hand redtravis a lollipop
[03:43] <lickalott> ;P
[03:44] <lickalott> you can clearly see that blkid exists
[03:44] <kreuger> ok Ive got my hdd connected to my laptop, looking at gparted to get the /dev block
[03:45] <Carlton> 1
[03:46] <lickalott> 7
[03:46] <Frustrated> Hi, is anyone awake?
[03:46] <kreuger> hmm I get this error: ext2fs_open2: Bad magic number in super-block
[03:46] <kreuger> fsck.ext2: Superblock invalid, trying backup blocks...
[03:46] <kreuger> fsck.ext2: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sdc
[03:46] <kreuger> The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
[03:46] <kreuger> filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2
[03:46] <kreuger> filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock
[03:46] <kreuger> is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:
[03:46] <kreuger>     e2fsck -b 8193 <device>
[03:46] <FloodBot1> kreuger: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:46] <kreuger> oops. should use paste lol
[03:47] <lickalott> what was the command you typed?
[03:47] <kreuger> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6581690/
[03:47] <Frustrated> I am trying to reinstall ubuntu as my main operating system, from Ubuntu 13.04 to Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.  I have run into an interesting problem...
[03:47] <lickalott> FS is read only Frustrated?
[03:48] <Frustrated> The little icon that appears with the keyboard and the little man.  It keeps cycling back to that icon and never actually goes anywhere.  What can I do to fix this?
[03:48] <lickalott> kreuger sudo fsck -y /dev/sdc1
[03:48] <lickalott> Frustrated format the drive with gparted (live cd/usb) and retry
[03:48] <kreuger> thanks that seems to be working
[03:48] <lickalott> you will WANT the -y
[03:49] <lickalott> and you can't mount the entire drive /sdc  you need the partition /sdc1
[03:49] <lickalott> without the -y you'd have to answer yes to ALL of those "fix superblock" questions
[03:49] <Frustrated> How do I format the drive with gparted?
[03:49] <kreuger> I've never seen the -y flag. what is it?
[03:49] <kreuger> ah lol
[03:49] <lickalott> if the drive is messed up there would be 100's
[03:50] <kreuger> well hopefully it's something I can fix from here without having to wipe the drive. way too much data
[03:50] <Frustrated> I'm installing from a dvd with a burnt iso.
[03:50] <lickalott> boot to the live cd/usb.  Gparted will open automatically (after a few questions).  then select the partition you want to format (top right of the gparted window) and delete the partitions, hit apply, then create a new ext2 partition, hit apply, reboot with the ubuntu cd, install
[03:51] <kreuger> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6581701/ results
[03:51] <lickalott> try now kreuger.  see what happens (log in)
[03:52] <kreuger> ok back in a few
[03:52] <lickalott> Frustrated, you get all that?
[03:53] <Frustrated> boot to the live cd/usb.
[03:54] <Frustrated> At the moment, I'm looking at:  "Reboot and Select proper Boot device or Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press key"
[03:54] <Frustrated> (1)  So I'm putting the DVD into the dvd drive.
[03:55] <Frustrated> (2)  I hit enter.
[03:55] <lickalott> no no holmes..  the gparted live cd
[03:55] <Frustrated> Gparted live cd?
[03:55] <lickalott> http://gparted.org/livecd.php
[03:56] <lickalott> that's a good tool to have anyway
[03:56] <Frustrated> In other words; I need to burn a new iso onto a new DVD?
[03:56] <kreuger> ok Im up to the spinning icon screen again. Seems to be stopped there.
[03:57] <lickalott> for all: there is an app called xboot.  You can throw a whole bunch of distros/tools/bootable apps on it and only have a single usb drive to house all of your tools.
[03:57] <lickalott> true Frustrated
[03:57] <kreuger> After about 45 seconds, the background and logo disappear, leaving just the spinning icon and the rest is black.
[03:57] <lickalott> but when all else fails, gparted usually comes through
[03:57] <Frustrated> Why can't I just try and wipe the old operating system with a new one?
[03:58] <bhldev> trying to get archive.ubuntu.com, is it down for people?
[03:58] <kreuger> what f button do I use for a terminal?
[03:58] <lickalott> do you need stuff off of it. kreuger or are you just wanting it until you get your laptop fixed?
[03:58] <munz> nice lickalott
[03:58] <lickalott> ctrl+shift+t kreuger
[03:58] <kreuger> No Im using the laptop now. I do need whats on it, at least some things.
[03:58] <kreuger> Does that work from the login screen?
[03:58] <lickalott> Frustrated, cause you can't get that far can you?
[03:58] <kreuger> I thought it was ctrl+alt+f1
[03:59] <lickalott> oh...maybe
[03:59] <xangua> Frustrated: gparted already comes in ubuntu live cd and you can just select the option to install over an existing system
[03:59] <Frustrated> Well, I can hit 'delete' and it takes me to an ubuntu screen.
[03:59] <lickalott> maybe I misunderstood the problem...  Frustrated, i thought you couldn't get past the guy+keyboard
[03:59] <kreuger> Well I hit ctrl+alt+f1 and it goes black
[04:00] <kreuger> And now Im back to the loading icon
[04:00] <Frustrated> It gives me the option to "Try Ubuntu without installing, Install Ubuntu, Check Discs, etc..."
[04:00] <lickalott> kreuger did you use LVM when you installed?
[04:00] <lickalott> try without installing > open terminal once booted into desktop > sudo gparted
[04:01] <lickalott> Frustrated ^^
[04:01] <Frustrated> But then I select "Install Ubuntu"... then it just keeps cycling.
[04:01] <kreuger> I dont know man. This computer is a couple of years old. I installed it off a disc, the normal way. It's just been upgraded
[04:01] <kreuger> Through each release
[04:02] <Frustrated> The reason why I have to reinstall the operating system is because of an issue between an NVIDIA driver and some new software that was installed on the update.
[04:02] <lickalott> maybe throw it back on your laptop, run fdisk -lu and see if /sdc1, /sdc2, /sdc5 are LVM.  If /sdc5 isn't LVM we can get your stuff off easy.  if it is, we have some work ahead of us
[04:02] <Frustrated> Unfortunately, if I try and run the operating system.  I get a black screen.
[04:02] <lickalott> but it's not letting you install right Frustrated?
[04:03] <Frustrated> For some reason, yes.
[04:03] <lickalott> the best way is to start fresh.
[04:03] <kreuger> Im pretty sure there wasn't an LVM partition. I'd rather not wipe the drive though.
[04:03] <lickalott> use the live cd to format the drive then re-install
[04:04] <lickalott> you won't wipe it kreuger, but we can get your stuff off and then tackle the non-working part later on once your stuff is secure
[04:04] <Frustrated> I thought that I was starting fresh with the 12.04 LTS disc.  It should just be able to boot from there, right?
[04:04] <lickalott> should and can are 2 different things
[04:04] <kreuger> There's too much data and not enough space on my laptop to back it up
[04:04] <lickalott> well....poop
[04:04] <bhldev> anyone else having problems with ubuntu.com?
[04:05] <Hoyt> Hi is package.ubuntu.com dead?
[04:05] <lickalott> kreuger, so when it boots up you see the login screen or you don't?
[04:06] <bhldev> Hoyt whew thought it was just me
[04:06] <kreuger> no. no login. cant get terminal. just the plymouth (I think) loading screen
[04:06] <bhldev> archive was down a bit ago, it was back up after I changed away from google dns
[04:06] <lickalott> and you can't boot to a live CD?
[04:07] <lickalott> or just an older one won't work?
[04:07] <lickalott> cause if you can gain access to the desktop or a terminal - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[04:08] <lickalott> Frustrated, how long have you let the screen sit there and stew?
[04:09] <Frustrated> For as long as 5 minutes, before....
[04:09] <kreuger> Sorry no I can't get a livecd to boot. Well this one. Let me try another
[04:10] <Frustrated> Goes to little man and keyboard.  Goes to black screen.  Opens up again, Goes to little man and keyboard.  Ad inifinitum.
[04:10] <lickalott> it's not jiving with your current load.  My opinion is still to format the drive and start over.
[04:11] <lickalott> did you install 13.04 or upgrade to it from an older release?
[04:11] <Hoyt> bhldev: I can't connect to packages.ubuntu.com, can you?
[04:11] <Frustrated> I installed 13.04.
[04:12] <kreuger> ok I've got an install cd to boot
[04:12] <Frustrated> Shortcut to command line is "ctrl+F3"?
[04:12] <lickalott> wait 1
[04:12] <shams> Hi,
[04:12] <shams> I am using ubuntu 12.04, my mouse is Ligitech wireless, it had been working fine suddenly the MMB no. 3 stoped working though scrolling works fine, it has three button right , left and middle with scrol , after checking few forums and the command " xev | grep -i button " i figured out that if i tilt the scrol button to the right a bit and press then button no. 3 (MMB) works, any idea ? thanks.
[04:13] <Frustrated> I just tried to run ubuntu 13.04 again (the on my hard drive).
[04:13] <kreuger> Sorry dude, not sure if youre talking to me now or not.
[04:13] <Frustrated> I'm left with a black screen and a white cursor that blinks at the top left of the screen.
[04:13] <lickalott> ctrl+alt+F1 Frustrated
[04:13] <hax-> ^
[04:13] <kreuger> Sounds like he's got a similar issue lol
[04:13] <Frustrated> Thanks.  Unfortunately, it doesn't do anything.
[04:14] <TJ-> shams: mouse is failing physically... sounds like the switches need some physical maintenance
[04:14] <cfhowlett> !who
[04:14] <lickalott> my bad....
[04:14] <shams> tj, thanks
[04:14] <hax-> !help
[04:14] <lickalott> kreuger, you're getting a little further than him...lol
[04:14] <hax-> oops, wrong chan lol
[04:14] <kreuger> hey bot, how exactly does that work? It's been a while since I've used irc
[04:15] <lickalott> !patience
[04:15] <kreuger> !tab lickalott test
[04:15] <lickalott> kreuger send me your drive
[04:15] <lickalott> lol
[04:16] <kreuger> damn man. Im gonna use a new tab for you. maybe thats what it meant lol
[04:16] <TJ-> Frustrated: When the system starts, are you able to access the GRUB boot-loader menu? Hold down Shift as soon as BIOS is finished initialising.
[04:16] <TJ-> Frustrated: The flashing cursor sounds to me more like a boot-order issue whereby the wrong device is being looked to for the boot-loader
[04:17] <cfhowlett> kreuger, start typing the name then hit tab for autocomplete
[04:17] <hemangpatel> Hi ubuntu
[04:17] <cfhowlett> hemangpatel, greetings
[04:17] <kreuger> lickalott, I've got the live cd to boot. Any ideas what to try now?
[04:18] <Frustrated> TJ-  It says:  Ubuntu 13.04... some other junk, then it moves to the white blinking cursor.  Hitting shift didn't change any behavior.
[04:19] <Frustrated> I turn the computer off, text comes onto the screen: acpci something or another.  Shutdown in 15 seconds...
[04:19] <hemangpatel> I want to install google chrome in Ubuntu 11.10
[04:19] <kreuger> hemangpatel, you can use chromium
[04:19] <cfhowlett> hemangpatel, 11.10 is out of support and end of life
[04:19] <kreuger> or maybe not
[04:19] <TJ-> Frustrated: OK, that means the boot-loader was successful and handed over to the operating system. So, you will usually see a 'splash screen' - you can do 2 things here. #1 would be to hold down shift during boot, which will get you the GRUB boot menu, then select the Advanced... Recovery boot option. That'll not use the 'splash screen' and you'll see messages from the OS that could reveal any issues
[04:19] <hemangpatel> I installed old one but i tried new version from chrom site
[04:20] <hemangpatel> but it failed due to dependency. so it removed old ones
[04:20] <hemangpatel> So is there any ftp for google chrome.
[04:20] <cfhowlett> !11.10
[04:20] <TJ-> Frustrated: Hang on, so it is stuck after you did shutdown?
[04:21] <hemangpatel> kreuger, Yes i'm using it now
[04:21] <hemangpatel> cfhowlett, Unfortunately I'm using office pc :P
[04:21] <bhldev> hi
[04:21] <bhldev> my inxi is showing only the intel driver, how can I be sure that bumblebee is really working?
[04:21] <kreuger> hemangpatel, you will likely need to find a PPA that supports 11.10
[04:21] <cfhowlett> hemangpatel,  .... so ... your OFFICE wants you to run an out of support, end of life distro?  disturbing ...
[04:22] <Frustrated> TJ- Stuck?  What do you mean when you say stuck?
[04:22] <onetinsoldier> hi bhldev
[04:23] <hemangpatel> cfhowlett, They just take care you can work in php. just that's it. Also my hardware is slow. Intel atom
[04:23] <kreuger> hemangpatel, have you tried downloading the deb off the Google Chrome page? Im not sure what the issue is
[04:23] <TJ-> Frustrated: You said the system was showing a blinking cursor top-left... then nothing - I interpret that as being 'stuck' (not doing anything useful)
[04:23] <bhldev> hi onetinsoldier
[04:23] <Frustrated> TJ-  Actually, I just changed the boot order to UEFI being first.  I have a grub screen now.  I just called the command line,  I have a grub command line.
[04:23] <Frustrated> TJ-  Yes.
[04:23] <Frustrated> TJ-  Yes.  Then it was stuck.
[04:24] <kreuger> lickalott, are you still here pal?
[04:24] <hemangpatel> kreuger, I tried from here. But it has dependency problem
[04:24] <hemangpatel> https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/
[04:24] <hemangpatel> So i'm asking old version list with download
[04:24] <Frustrated> Can I get rid of the video driver from the GRUB command line?
[04:24] <siwica> I have a second screen plugged to my laptop via VGA but unfortunately I cant make anything to appear on it with the usual screen settings. Any help?
[04:25] <TJ-> Frustrated: ahhhh.... OK, so boot-order has got you further.... In which case, you ought to be able to simply choose one of the boot options and give it a go. Try a Recovery option first. If you can only get the GRUB command-line, then GRUB isn't correctly installed, and you'll need to boot from a Live image on DVD/USB to fix it
[04:25] <hemangpatel> No worry chromium is good also
[04:26] <kreuger> hemangpatel, what dependency are you missing? have you tried opening synaptic or whatever package manager you use and searching for the needed files?
[04:26] <siwica> It always gives me this error: "GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SettingsDaemon was not provided by any .service files"
[04:26] <TJ-> Frustrated: You can do almost anything to the kernel's command-line options at boot-time... those changes won't stick though. For that, you'd need to edit "/etc/default/grub" after the OS has started (or from a Live image) and then "update-grub" on it, to make it permanent
[04:26] <hemangpatel> kreuger, No. But i don't want to go deeply in my "Office" pc
[04:26] <hemangpatel> thanks btw
[04:27] <Frustrated> TJ-  Hmm.  Ok, I'll try and exit the command line interface.  Then I'll look for a "Recovery" option.
[04:27] <TJ-> siwica: It depends on what the graphics chip-set and driver is (Nvidia, AMD/ATI, Nouveau, etc.) as to how multi-monitor is configured... which has that system got?
[04:28] <kreuger> hemangpatel, I guess youre SOL lol
[04:28] <siwica> TJ-: Nvidia unfortunately
[04:29] <siwica> TJ-: I forgot what exact driver I installed though
[04:29] <siwica> TJ-: How do I find out?
[04:29] <TJ-> Frustrated: The "Recovery" options are simply alternative boot menu entries that don't use a splash screen, show more kernel messages during boot, and run a single-user root, text-based, menu. If you get that far, you probably want to 'start network' on that menu and then go to a 'shell prompt'
[04:29] <onetinsoldier> siwica: lspci | grep VGA
[04:30] <onetinsoldier> siwica: oh, sorry. my bad
[04:31] <TJ-> siwica: In which case, launch "nvidia-settings" and configure the multi-monitor support there, or on very recent Ubuntu versions (13.10) the latest Nvidia drivers will support full RandR using the system display configuration applet
[04:31] <onetinsoldier> siwica: that will show what video card you have
[04:31] <lickalott> here kreuger
[04:31] <onetinsoldier> siwica: how about   dpkg -l *nvidia*
[04:31]  * TJ- is using nvidia on a laptop driving 2 GPUs and 4 screens over 3 X-screens, and it works fine
[04:32] <kreuger> lickalott, do you have ideas for me now that Im in a live environment?
[04:32] <Frustrated> TJ- Looking at the "GNU GRUB version 1.99-21ubuntu3.10"  screen:  I have options:  (1)  "Try Ubuntu without installing"  (2) "Install Ubuntu"  (3) " Check disk for defects".
[04:32] <TJ-> Frustrated: Aha! OK, this is a Live image then?
[04:32] <lickalott> run that repair tool link that I sent you
[04:32] <TJ-> Frustrated: I thought you had an installed system that was having the issue
[04:32] <Frustrated> TJ-  Maybe.  I tried hitting Install Ubuntu and it just returned me to this same screen.
[04:33] <siwica> onetinsoldier: It took me three days to make any driver work so I might not have the most recent one
[04:33] <Frustrated> TJ-  I have a DVD in there with an iso.
[04:33] <lickalott> TJ- he has 13.04 and is trying to "revert" to 12.04 with a fresh install.  Once "install" is selected from the menu it hangs
[04:33] <onetinsoldier> siwica: i hear you. that's quite a bit of work you must have done
[04:33] <TJ-> Frustrated: frustrating! :)
[04:34] <Frustrated> TJ- Indeed.  :)
[04:34] <siwica> I can open the "NVIDIA X Server Settings". However it doesnt find my second display there
[04:34] <TJ-> lickalott: Thank-you... I gathered I was missing something rather fundamental :)
[04:34] <siwica> It does in the Ubuntu configuration but there I get the previously mentioned error message after turning it on
[04:34] <lickalott> like I said man, I think the "boots" are competing with each other.  i still think the best way forward for you is to start with a clean slate
[04:34] <TJ-> siwica: That's good. Other than not seeing the 2nd display, does it report good information about the current configuration?
[04:34] <siwica> onetinsoldier: it was a pain in the ***
[04:34] <qpan321> hi
[04:35] <onetinsoldier> siwica: i've been there before
[04:35] <siwica> TJ-: yes, from what I know (resolution, ...) it seems correct
[04:35] <Frustrated> Well, I downloaded the GParted live ISO.  Now I just need something to burn it on.  The closest thing that I have to burn it on is 10 miles away.
[04:35] <TJ-> Frustrated: 'reverting to 12.04' is another way of saying 'wipe 13.04 away and replace completely with 12.04', is that your objective?
[04:36] <alina> How is it possible to use two fonts as Ubuntu default font, for example – as in CSS – Ubuntu, Tahoma?
[04:36] <Frustrated> TJ-  Yes.  Either that or if I can just get rid of the NVIDIA video drivers on the machine... then maybe I can still use this old 13.04 OS that I've got on there.
[04:36] <siwica> onetinsoldier: I am tempted to try another driver but i fear to have to go through that whole process again. And that's something I want to avoid by any means
[04:36] <TJ-> siwica: OK... that establishes that nvidia settings is in control. OK, go to the "X Server Display Configuration" tab
[04:37] <siwica> TJ-: done
[04:37] <Frustrated> TJ-  That was how this issue got started.
[04:37] <wikileaks> hello, i want to know what is the difference between "ubuntu-12.04-alternate-i386.iso" and ubuntu-12.04-server-i386.iso
[04:37] <qpan321> how do you use irc, sorry im a noob?...any guides you can point to so I can learn. I just want to use IRC to talk to people who know python :)
[04:37] <RaviTezu> Hi, How to take a "screenshot" bigger than the screen? This sounds odd - but, I want to take a screen shot of a big file content(which is displayed on terminal)
[04:37] <lickalott> Frustrated you can run gparted from the live Ubuntu CD as well.  Or you can boot GParted from a USB drive
[04:37] <RaviTezu> can some one help
[04:37] <RaviTezu> ?
[04:37] <onetinsoldier> siwica: usually, it seems that once you've found  your way around and know the ropes, it's easier to 'experiment'. but of course, caution is the better part of valor ;-)
[04:37] <TJ-> Frustrated: To avoid the nvidia drivers all you'd need do is boot to 13.04's Recovery single-user mode which gives you a root shell, and do "apt-get remove nvidia-current"
[04:38] <lickalott> RaviTezu use redirect output
[04:38] <lickalott> ie cat filename > biglist.txt
[04:38] <Frustrated> lickalott  I've got a live Ubuntu DVD in my DVD drive.
[04:38] <RaviTezu> lickalott: thanks for the reply. I can do that.. but this for some audit.. this has to be a screenshot
[04:38] <TJ-> siwica: OK... in the Layout graphic on the right does it show the VGA screen (as CRT-1) even if it says "disabled" ?
[04:38] <lickalott> hit "try" ubuntu. When it boots to the desktop open a terminal (or ctrl+shift+t), type gparted
[04:39] <siwica> RaviTezu: print the file as pdf then
[04:39] <cfhowlett> qpan321, #python channel ...
[04:39] <RaviTezu> siwica: can we do that from a terminal?
[04:39] <lickalott> find your disk kill all the partitions on it (i'm assuming its the only hdd in the system), hit apply.  Then create a new ext2 partition, hit apply.  Then just double click on the icon on the desktop to install.
[04:39] <Frustrated> lickalott:  Ok, I hit:  "Try ubuntu."  It takes me back to the GNU Grub screen.
[04:39] <lickalott> You should be in business
[04:40] <lickalott> well....poop
[04:40] <siwica> TJ-: It says "X Screen 0 (No Scanout)"
[04:40] <qpan321> cfhowlett, THANK YOU SOO MUCH xD
[04:40] <siwica> RaviTezu: I guess so, but you would have to look it up
[04:41] <Frustrated> Maybe it's just some issue with my boot order...  This seems to be a sticky process...
[04:41] <TJ-> siwica: Hmmm, does it show two rectangles in the layout area representing the laptop DFP and the VGA screen?
[04:41] <lickalott> RaviTezu if you don't like the redirect output option, you could install pasteninit
[04:41] <lickalott> unless I'm missing something ^^
[04:41] <TJ-> Frustrated: It sounds very much like it. Try removing all removable media (DVD, USB) and setting UEFI boot order to prefer the primary hard disk
[04:42] <lickalott> but it's booting from the disk right?  otherwise he wouldn't see the little guy and the keyboard.
[04:42] <lickalott> P.S. we need a name for that.
[04:42] <siwica> TJ-: no, thats the problem. only one rectangle
[04:42] <TJ-> lickalott: If it shows "Install Ubuntu" then my guess is, it's the DVD
[04:42] <lickalott> could be.... never thought of that.
[04:43] <TJ-> siwica: OK ... what is the make/model of the laptop? I'll do some research
[04:43] <lickalott> maybe try a lower write speed Frustrated
[04:43] <lickalott> cept his burner is in never never land
[04:43] <TJ-> lickalott: The 'little guy with the keyboard' is, I believe, a representation of the Locale/Language options
[04:44] <wikileaks> i found the answer for my question http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/
[04:44] <lickalott> ?? TJ-
[04:44] <lickalott> the little symbols when the live CD first boots, prior to the menu?
[04:45] <siwica> TJ-: Lenovo, G700
[04:45] <siwica> TJ-: thank you!
[04:45] <lickalott> regardless, we should call it, the TLG screen
[04:45] <TJ-> lickalott: The installer is multi-locale aware but defaults to English... That graphic warns that you can at that point choose another language for the installer, I think
[04:46] <TJ-> lickalott: or TPG (The Pesky Gremlin)
 "Hey guys I'm stuck at the screen with the little guy and keyboard"  <therestofus> "You mean the TLG screen?"
[04:46] <lickalott> ahh
[04:46] <Frustrated> TJ- I have four slots for the boot sequence.  Current order is (UEFI, ubuntu (P1: TOSHIBA DT01ac20), P3: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-224DB, P1: TOSHIBA DTO1ACA200)
[04:47] <TJ-> Frustrated: I'd read that as a system having a DVD and 2 fixed disks, maybe one an SSD and one a hard disk?
[04:48] <TJ-> Frustrated: scratch that, I misread! So, a 2TB Toshiba hard drive, which is the preferred device
[04:49] <Frustrated> TJ-  UEFI is a DVD drive... strange... I only see one physical DVD drive.  I don't have any SSD, I don't think.
[04:50] <lickalott> so 2 DVD drives and 1 hdd?
[04:51] <lickalott> Frustrated ^
[04:51] <TJ-> lickalott: No, one of each, the preferred being the 2TB hard disk.
[04:51] <Frustrated> 2 DVD drives and 2 hdd.
[04:51] <daftykins> both HDD entries are labelled P1 = port 1
[04:51] <Frustrated> I only see one physical DVD drive.
[04:51] <daftykins> they're the same HDD
[04:51] <daftykins> but one is booting EFI, the other is booting legacy
[04:52] <daftykins> (at a guess)
[04:52] <TJ-> siwica: OK, I think I see the core of your issue, from other similar reports. The laptop has dual GPU chip-set (Intel + Nvidia) which requires the 'bumblebee' driver, I believe?
[04:52] <siwica> TJ-: I tried to use it with bumblebee but couldnt make it work
[04:53] <lickalott> is it seeing the partitions?
[04:53] <siwica> TJ-: So now I dont have bumblebee but forgot what exactly I did to make it work
[04:53] <Frustrated> (A)  Setting the one with the DVD icon on it as having the first priority in the boot sequence.
[04:54] <Frustrated> (B)  Now we are back to the little man and the keyboard continuosly cycling and never going anywhere.
[04:54] <siwica> TJ-: I was a lot trial and error and I was just happy to have a gui appear that I didnt care too much about it since
[04:54] <TJ-> siwica: That's fine, it ought not to be necessary. On nvidia-settings Layout tab, when you select the CRT-1 rectangle, in the associated options are you able to change its configuration from "disabled" to "Separate X screen" and upon reboot get a result?
[04:54] <Frustrated> I hit delete and I get a language menu.
[04:56] <Frustrated> From here it says:  "Try Ubuntu without Installing", "Install Ubuntu", "Check disc for defects", "Test memory", "Boot from hard disk"
[04:56] <Frustrated> I can also change modes, keymap, other options, accessibility.
[04:56] <alfonsojon> Hi
[04:56] <alfonsojon> I'm looking for a laptop that's at least 14 inches that comes with Ubuntu pre-installed and can run Europa Universalis 4 well.
[04:56] <cfhowlett> alfonsojon, greetings
[04:57] <lickalott> Frustrated, try ubuntu
[04:57] <alfonsojon> I'm trying to be around $300 - $600, but up to $699 will do
[04:57] <lickalott> does that cycle back to the same screen?
[04:57] <alfonsojon> All of System76's options are too pricey.
[04:57] <cfhowlett> !hardware|alfonsojon,
[04:57] <siwica> TJ-: thats how it looks like in my case: http://s14.directupload.net/file/d/3473/i7s34z8m_png.htm
[04:57] <TJ-> Frustrated: That is either the live image running from the DVD, or... you've got the live image installed to the hard disk itself.
[04:57] <alfonsojon> cfhowlett: Already saw that, didn't help me much because none of them have product information like prices and size unless I look it up manually
[04:58] <somsip> So I've used 'set -o vi' for ages and it works fine, but it's not in .bashrc, .bash_aliases or .profile. Where else could I have set this??
[04:58] <Frustrated> If I hit "Install Ubuntu" it just keeps cycling between a black screen and the little man with the keyboard.
[04:59] <Frustrated> TJ-  Is there any chance that I've completely bricked this computer?
[05:00] <kreuger> well guys, thanks for trying to help but I've got to run. I will try to be back soon for more help. Have a good one all
[05:00] <alfonsojon> Anyone have any suggestions?
[05:00] <alfonsojon> :/
[05:00] <siwica> TJ-: And I unfortunately cant do the thing you suggested
[05:00] <TJ-> siwica: Thanks for that screenshot, that helps! I think the issue is that the laptop is currently using the Intel driver not the nvidia (in other words, the power-saving option). You should be seeing selections with monitor device names such as  "DFP-0" and "CRT-0" etc.
[05:01] <siwica> TJ-: Ok, I see
[05:01] <onetinsoldier> TJ-: maybe he should  have a look at his var/log/Xorg.log file?
[05:01] <cfhowlett> alfonsojon, 1st generation Dell XPS 13 developer edition should now be heavily discounted.  you might get lucky
[05:02] <siwica> TJ-: maybe this helps too: Some other day somebody told me to try it with xrand, I could extend the display to the other screen but the resolution was very bad
[05:03] <TJ-> siwica: This is what I see for my 2-GPU 4-monitor config: http://s7.directupload.net/file/d/3473/4e4r83tv_png.htm
[05:04] <siwica> TJ-: this looks a lot better
[05:04] <TJ-> siwica: That would make sense; I suspect your issue is the switching between the GPUs via Bumblebee. I'm not sure how Bumblebee is supposed to deal with multi-heads
[05:04] <alfonsojon> yeesh those are expensive
[05:04] <alfonsojon> :(
[05:05] <siwica> TJ-: Ok, so I would need to install bumblebee I guess
[05:05] <TJ-> siwica: Some useful info on it that I'm reading now: https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/wiki/Multi-monitor-setup
[05:06] <TJ-> siwica: This stands out to me: "... If the port (DisplayPort / HDMI / VGA) is wired to the Intel chip, you do not need to do anything special to get external monitors to work. When the port is wired into the nvidia chip, you cannot currently expand the screen over monitors."
[05:06] <cfhowlett> R+ status on a PID from ps -x means ... what?  my google-fu failed has failed me for the last time ...
[05:06] <siwica> TJ-:The problem is that I couldnt even get my single display laptop working with bumblbee
[05:07] <siwica> TJ-: why didnt anybody warn me from using nVIDIA with Linux. This is all such a waste of time :/
[05:07] <lickalott> Frustrated, no.  Just sounds like an hdd/grub issue.
[05:08] <adv_> Hi all, Good Morning
[05:08] <siwica> TJ-: Also I am having issues with my mouse cursor freezing every 5 min which I suspect to be due to the NVIDIA driver too, but thats somehow tolerable
[05:09] <onetinsoldier> hello adv_
[05:09] <Frustrated> lickalott:  Thanks.  I don't know why this won't install.
[05:09] <TJ-> cfhowlett: "man ps" then  "/PROCESS STATE CODES"
[05:09] <adv_> Hi onetinsoldier
[05:10] <Frustrated> lickalott:  The black screen keeps appearing because the computer seems to be physically restarting then running "grub?"
[05:10] <lickalott> Frustrated, you don't have another computer to burn from or a USB drive you can use for another live distro (suse, fedora, gparted)?
[05:10] <TJ-> siwica: Nvidia is probably the best for Linux support on high-end GPUs; your issue is with manufacturers wanting to include power-hungry GPUs in power-effecient devices and choosing to hard-wire two incompatible GPUs together
[05:10] <cfhowlett> TJ-, TYVM!
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[05:11] <lickalott> Frustrated when you say physically, do you hear the fans kick off then back on again, or the dvd drive spin up, or the post beep?
[05:11] <bruce-zu>  
[05:12] <lickalott> from what it sounds like to me, the installation goes to start then sees that there is already "something" in its way and takes you back to where you started.
[05:12] <Frustrated> lickalott:  Actually, no, the fans keep going.  The dvd drive doesn't make any special noise.
[05:12] <lickalott> but....I'm not there.
[05:12] <Frustrated> lickalott:  I have another computer to burn from.  I'm typing on it.
[05:13] <Frustrated> lickalott:  The problem is that I have no media to burn to.
[05:13] <lickalott> yeah, I really think it's the fact that there is already a distro on there.  it doesn't make sense (theoritically) but that's where my money is.
[05:13] <IceSeven> hello
[05:13] <TJ-> Frustrated: Do you still get that installer boot menu when you've removed the DVD and any USB flash devices?
[05:13] <lickalott> usb drive?
[05:14] <Frustrated> TJ- Hmm... I'll check.  No I don't have a usb drive that can hold the requisite 4 GB.
[05:14] <lickalott> Frustrated, when i upgraded to 13.04 the entire FS was read-only.  Not sure if you've seen any evidence of that but that could be causing your issues as well.
[05:14] <TJ-> Frustrated: That would cause the symptoms you describe, since the installer would say to itself "whoops! I can't install over myself"
[05:15] <lickalott> wait..... now I'm confused. "<Frustrated> From here it says:  "Try Ubuntu without Installing", "Install Ubuntu", "Check disc for defects", "Test memory", "Boot from hard disk""  this was after you "move" stuff around right?
[05:16] <siwica> TJ-: Yes, maybe. So you would think there is no way at the moment to connect the second display?
[05:16] <CryptoKing> can someone give us a hand with ubuntu server, i tried to set up static ip but something went wrong how do i get my dhcp working again
[05:16] <Frustrated> TJ-  When I remove this disk, it says "Reboot and Slect proper Boot device or Insert BOot Media in selected Boot device and press a key."
[05:17] <Frustrated> lickallot:  What was the FS acronym?
[05:17] <Frustrated> File system?
[05:17] <TJ-> Frustrated: OK, that is useful, since it suggests the Installer is running from the DVD. So it narrows down the issue to why it fails the "Install Ubuntu" step
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> CryptoKing: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might know?
[05:17] <CryptoKing> cheers
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> !dhcp | CryptoKing
[05:18] <TJ-> Frustrated: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromCD#After_I_Select:_.27Start_or_Install_Ubuntu.27.2C_it_fails_to_boot
[05:19] <lickalott> file system Frustrated
[05:19] <TJ-> Frustrated: It suggests modifying the Installer boot parameters by pressing F6
[05:21] <TJ-> Frustrated: You don't have a USB storage device you could use to boot a Live image from ?
[05:22] <Frustrated> TJ-  Nope.  I don't have a USB storage device.
[05:22] <Iriez> www.pastebin.com/hM9jrn4Z <--- my results.txt from bootinfoscript. I have a encrypted ubuntu lvm and a ntfs windows 7 partition (1 harddrive, sdc is my usb key i booted from to diagnose) I get a grub rescue loader or just a grub bash something or other boot screen on boot
[05:22] <Iriez> Tried boot repair, system rescue cd etc to no avail
[05:23] <Frustrated> TJ-  I'll put the disc back in the dvd drive.
[05:23] <TJ-> Frustrated: In your situation I'd be tempted to pull the hard-disk out of that system and connect it (as a slave) to my working system, and then I could work on it directly, and test its booting ability via a virtual machine, but that depends on a level of skill and experience you probably don't have access to
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> Iriez: did you try an update-grub?
[05:24] <Frustrated> TJ-  Yeah, I've never done that before.
[05:24] <Iriez> is that an additional grub program? if so, no
[05:25] <Frustrated> TJ-   I don't even think that I have the hardware on hand to connect the hard-disk as a slave.
[05:25]  * Iriez runs
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> Iriez: no, it means updating grub==> from terminal sudo update-grub
[05:25] <Iriez> yes, i just did so
[05:25] <Iriez> it see's the correct installs
[05:25] <Iriez> and it outputted it in term
[05:25] <TJ-> Frustrated: What is the make/model of the motherboard (or laptop?) having the problem? Maybe we have some known issues about it that will help determine a workaround?
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> Iriez: try a reboot now
[05:26] <Iriez> only error i get is on /usr/sbin/grub-probe 'error no such disk'
[05:26] <Iriez> lotus: sure!
[05:26] <Iriez> so
[05:26] <Iriez> i get the GNU GRUZB 'minimal BASH' screen
[05:26] <Iriez> on boot
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> Iriez: you can also loose win once and for good, and install ubuntu single
[05:27] <Iriez> lotus: Excellent idea, but it does have its occasional uses.
[05:27]  * lotuspsychje never liked those freaky dualboots :p
[05:27] <Iriez> For example, with sony vegas and my editing software
[05:27] <Frustrated> TJ- I don't know what model of motherboard I have...
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> Iriez: you can replace much with ubuntu
[05:27] <Random832> It is _incredibly_ stupid that closing the lid in the middle of shutting down pre-empts the shutdown in favor of going into suspend mode instead
[05:27] <Iriez> lotus: I agree and do replace such, however that is not within the scope of what i need to accomplish
[05:27] <Iriez> I unfortunately had this working already
[05:28] <Iriez> but tried to truecrypt my win7 install too
[05:28] <Iriez> and then it got broked
[05:28] <Iriez> so i started over, repeated all my steps
[05:28] <Iriez> and somehow ended up with this muck
[05:28] <Iriez> Not sure why its not booting now.
[05:28] <Iriez> So whats this minimal bash grub?
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> Iriez: can yoiu still choose a kernel into recoverymode?
[05:29] <Ivanov> Okay so, guys, i am in the part of the ubuntu usb instructions here: Iriez https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/amd64/boot-usb-files.html that tell me to copy my ubuntu iso image to the usb drive and im not sure how
[05:29] <Ivanov> idk why its putting peoples names in :o wierd webchat lol
[05:29] <TJ-> Iriez: The only thing I've noticed so far in your bootinfo output is the partitions are out-of-order
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> Iriez: i would start over single boot ubuntu, and virtualbox your 7 if you wish
[05:30] <TJ-> Ivanov: Probably it misinterpreted a 'tab' character as requiring tab-completion?
[05:30] <Ivanov> do i just cp ubuntu-blahblah.iso /mnt ? or do i need command line parameters?
[05:31] <Ivanov> TJ- im not sure what exactly to do exactly tog et the ISO from downloads/ubuntu*.iso to my /mnt (flashdrive)
[05:31] <Iriez> TJ: any advice on how to correct it and recheck if that is the issue?
[05:32] <Iriez> I have no experience editing grub so i've been relying on posts on the internet and these rescue programs
[05:32] <Ivanov> yeah Iriez i have been trying that too to no avail
[05:32] <Ivanov> i just keep getting "cant load filesystem"
[05:32] <lickalott> Ivanov, what are you trying to do?
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> Ivanov: are you trying an usb from windows?
[05:32] <Ivanov> no i am on a Debian-7 distro
[05:32] <Ivanov> SteamOS, technically
[05:32] <Iriez> oh cool
[05:32] <Iriez> i can now boot windows lol
[05:32] <Ivanov> i want to switch to Ubuntu
[05:32] <Iriez> from my usb key haha
[05:32] <Iriez> so
[05:32] <Iriez> Here's the deal
[05:32] <FloodBot1> Iriez: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:32] <Ivanov> but i cant make it work on my usb drive
[05:33] <Iriez> Whenever i run these grub updates etc, it seems to edit the grub on my usb key
[05:33] <Iriez> perhaps its just not editing the correct grub on sda?
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> Ivanov: join #debian and ask for an usb creator tool?
[05:33] <Ivanov> the tools wont work as SteamOS dependencies are kinda borked custom versiuons
[05:34] <TJ-> Iriez: Correction would mean shuffling the partition entries; not something I'd recommend for a novice. In terms of it having an effect, it ought not to for GRUB. Your issue is that GRUB is failing to find the file-system containing its files.
[05:34] <lickalott> wait...you're just trying to boot ubuntu from a usb drive Ivanov?
[05:34] <Ivanov> this is the step i am at now: If you used an hd-media image, you should now copy an Ubuntu ISO image[6] onto the stick. When you are done, unmount the USB memory stick (umount /mnt).
[05:34] <Ivanov> yeah
[05:34] <Ivanov> but it just WILL NOT DO IT.
[05:34] <Iriez> TJ: im thinking it has to do with the encrypted LVM
[05:34] <Ivanov> been doing this ALL DAY since 10 this morning i am so mad lol
[05:34] <Iriez> is it correctly setup to point to the crypt?
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> Ivanov: you cant just drag an iso to usb, that wont work
[05:35] <lickalott> did you literally copy the .iso to the usb drive?
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> Ivanov: it needs a software to make it bootable
[05:35] <lickalott> unetbootin Ivanov
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> !usb | Ivanov
[05:35] <lickalott> get er done
[05:35] <Iriez> lvanov: Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.5.1.exe
[05:35] <cfhowlett> Ivanov, unetbootin will do the job for you
[05:35] <Ivanov> this is what i have been doing
[05:35] <Ivanov> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/amd64/boot-usb-files.html
[05:35]  * lickalott ^5's cfhowlett
[05:35] <Ivanov> unetbootin, multisystem, these things wont install cause of borked steamos dependencies
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:36] <Ivanov> actually
[05:36] <cfhowlett> Ivanov, although for figuring out steam OS you want to ask valve, not ubuntu
[05:36] <Ivanov> suddenly
[05:36] <Ivanov> it works
[05:36] <Ivanov> well, i dont know what magic you guys put on here but awesome
[05:36] <Ivanov> and yeah ive been in and out of here today trying to get ubuntu installed lol
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> Welcome to ubuntu's magic!
[05:36] <cfhowlett> Ivanov, that happens.  see OHE (Operator Headspace Error)    :)
[05:37] <lickalott> lmfao
[05:37] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:37] <Ivanov> OH i know what i did wrong
[05:37] <Ivanov> i set debian's repository to high priority
[05:37] <Ivanov> and i think it re-downloaded the dependencies
[05:37] <lickalott> everyone knows AOL doesn't read javascript
[05:37] <Frustrated> Well... this doesn't seem to be getting me anywhere.  I should get to bed.
[05:37] <Ivanov> cause its running a good 1000000 packages
[05:37] <Ivanov> exaggerating ofcourse
[05:37] <Frustrated> lickalott, JT-:  Thanks for trying to help me.
[05:37] <lickalott> Frustrated, what did you did?
[05:38] <Frustrated> I tried following the advice on here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromCD#After_I_Select:_.27Start_or_Install_Ubuntu.27.2C_it_fails_to_boot
[05:38] <lickalott> send me your drive...I'll fix it up and get it back to you.  call it your xmas present.  :P
[05:38] <Frustrated> I didn't succeed with anything.
[05:38] <TJ-> Iriez: Also, I notice that grub isn't fully installed to the hard disk, only its core image. That is causing the issue you have. My guess would be that somehow during install the installed-system GRUB was written to the USB device, not the hard disk
[05:38] <lickalott> sleep on it.  we can attack tomorrow
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:38] <shafox> hi, i just installed apache 2.4 in myy 12.04 LTE box. after installing it is working. now that i added one virtualhost whose config is https://gist.github.com/shadow-fox/7982749, but when i go to localhost it also serves the virtualhost with an error that is related to the php, and if i go to the virtualhost i also get the same error. so the virtualhost is routed and served in all requests that is locahost. how to get past this ??
[05:38] <Iriez> TJ: I used the CD with no usb inserted on initial install
[05:39] <Ivanov> i will run unetbootin then try this again, if not i will be back, thanks for the help guys!
[05:39] <Frustrated> Have a good night sir.  Maam?
[05:39] <TJ-> Frustrated: Without being in front of the machine it is really hard to suggest much more
[05:39] <Iriez> im thinking the issue is caused because im booting from ubuntu on usb
[05:39] <Frustrated> TJ-  I understand.
[05:39] <Iriez> TJ: How do I 'fully install' grub to sda then?
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> shafox: maybe the #httpd guys might know your issue?
[05:40] <shafox> lotuspsychje, okies
[05:41] <TJ-> Iriez: OK... so GRUB wasn't installed at all, or was subsequently partially removed. The fix is (relatively) straight-forward. From a live boot image or other Linux boot on that system, we'd create a 'chroot' mount for the poorly installation, and then inside it run 'grub-install' ensuring it writes to the correct file-system partition
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | shafox maybe some usefull info here also
[05:43] <Iriez> FYI TJ i followed this tut to a T no errors
[05:43] <Iriez> http://stephentanner.com/index.php/2011/05/restoring-grub-for-an-encrypted-lvm/
[05:43] <Iriez> and it still didnt work
[05:43] <Iriez> though i booted the system rescue cd from usb, so perhaps booting from usb is the issue?
[05:43] <Iriez> as it creates a 'multiple harddrive' environment and confuses the installer perhaps?
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> !grub | Iriez here to restore grub
[05:45] <TJ-> Iriez: OK, I think I see your problem :)
[05:45]  * Iriez jumps and claps
[05:47] <TJ-> Iriez: You should check my observations here since I'm a little tired, but... that guide assumes that you do *not* have a separate partition/file-system for /boot/   ... but your system does (/dev/sda3) ... so when you do the chroot mounts, /boot/ will be *inside* the encrypted file-system. At the stage of doing all the mounts prior to chroot, you need to to also do "mount /dev/sda3 /media/linux/boot"
[05:47] <Iriez> ohhhhh
[05:47] <Iriez> That makes sense
[05:47] <Iriez> damnit just overwrote this usb key too lol
[05:48] <TJ-> Iriez: Give it a try, and I'll put the coffee pot on!
[05:48] <Iriez> cheers :)
[05:48] <mmazing> what's the best way to search for packages, for instance, im trying to build qemu from scratch, and i get "ERROR: glib-2.12 ... is required", but i can't find a specific package with apt-cache
[05:49] <Iriez> also, as a general question
[05:50] <Iriez> i had to install a 'mainline' kernel (i think im saying that right) to get my wifi driver working (rtl8188ee), and i saw a doc somewhere that said that by installing the mainline that i invalidate the update process somehow?
[05:51] <mmazing> googling helped with the answer of "libglib2.0-dev" but i would like to be able to find the answer on my own, how can i associate glib-2.12 with libglib2.0-dev
[05:51] <TJ-> Iriez: Did you install it from the Ubuntu mainline kernel archive? I use those without issue
[05:51] <Iriez> Yes, i did.
[05:52] <TJ-> Iriez: Then you shouldn't have any issues with updates
[05:52] <jrib> mmazing: you can just do "sudo apt-get build-dep package-that-you-are-trying-to-build-that-happens-to-also-be-in-the-repos"
[05:53] <TJ-> Iriez: updates to the regular archive kernels will be done, but by default the system will boot from the latest kernel version based on the order of placement by 'update-grub'
[05:53] <mmazing> ah, well the problem was that i was using configure, i need a version that is higher than that in ubuntu repos
[05:53] <mmazing> that's good info to have however
[05:53] <TJ-> mmazing: When looking for dependent libraries I always prefix "lib" to the package name since that is the Debian convention
[05:54] <TJ-> mmazing: So I'd be doing "apt-cache search 'libglib.*dev" to start with
[05:54] <mmazing> TJ-: so maybe i should try "apt-cache search libglib" first?
[05:54] <mmazing> TJ-: ok makes sense
[05:54] <mmazing> thanks
[05:54] <TJ-> mmazing: remember that apt-cache search supports regexp
[05:55] <aw> asdasdas
[05:55] <mmazing> TJ-: didn't know that, excellent
[05:56] <TJ-> mmazing: another tip... if you are building a more recent version of a package already in the archive, then sometimes installing the build dependencies of the archive package will do it all for you, as in "apt-get build-dep $PACKAGE_NAME"
[05:56] <Guest90591> ggrrrrrr
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> !ask | Guest90591
[05:57] <Ivanov> so i tried unetbootin and got dumped into (initramfs) with no error...?
[05:57] <Ivanov> after a lengthy ubuntu loading screen
[05:58] <Iriez> TJ: So to clarify, I am both doing "mount /dev/sda3 /media/linux/boot" AND mount /dev/sda3 /boot ?
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> Ivanov: how long is lenghty?
[05:58] <Ivanov> lotuspsychje: about 3-5 minutes
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> Ivanov: but ubuntu usb boots correclty right?
[05:59] <Ivanov> no that is the usb booting
[05:59] <mmazing> TJ-: awesome, so build-dep just figures out dependencies to build the source for a package and installs them?
[05:59] <Ivanov> er, yeah, it boots
[05:59] <Ivanov> just doesnt start
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> Ivanov: yes ubuntu setup usb
[05:59] <Ivanov> im trying my 'alternate' iso now, since i have both
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> Ivanov: what version are you trying of ubuntu?
[05:59] <Ivanov> 12.04
[05:59] <Ivanov> or whichever one is the LTS
[05:59] <lotuspsychje> Ivanov: try wait a little longer, maybe press F1 to see whats happening
[06:00] <Ivanov> well, as i said, after the loading screen
[06:00] <Ivanov> i get dumped into (initramfs) with no error message
[06:00] <Ivanov> and no clue howt o work that
[06:00] <TJ-> mmazing: Every regular archive package contains a "debian/control" file which amongst other things declares all the dependencies of both the source and binary packages. When you do "apt-get build-dep" it will get the list of all source dependencies and install them
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> Ivanov: some systems can get stuck for a while on parts of setup, endure a little
[06:01] <Ivanov> yeah but what does it do if its just sitting on (initramfs) waiting for input?
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> Ivanov: it doesnt need input there
[06:01] <Iriez> TJ: Siting here at the prompt
[06:01] <Ivanov> but thats what its doing...it pops up like it failed, only with no error message or "Debian failed to start!" message like i normally see
[06:01] <mmazing> TJ-: thanks for the info, very good to know
[06:01] <Ivanov> i just see it sitting at (initramfs) and the blinking cursor
[06:01] <Iriez> Since i dont undertstand the need for mounting /dev/sda3 twice i would appreciate your input
[06:02] <Iriez> i dont know what mounting to /media/linux does in this situation... ?
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> Ivanov: its normal you get no debian warning, as you setup ubuntu from usb now..
[06:02] <Ivanov> yeah but its odd to see the (initramfs) at all, am i supposed to be seeing that?
[06:02] <crazyhorse18> hello.. ncdu and df -h report different amounts of disk space usage
[06:02] <Iriez> i did the mount /dev/sda3 /media/linux/boot
[06:03] <crazyhorse18> anyone know how to get accurate list?
[06:03] <Ivanov> normally i only see (initramfs) prompt when i fail booting
[06:03] <Iriez> but i dont understand what the extra mount of /dev/sda3 to /boot does?
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> Ivanov: if ubuntu setup boots correctly, it means you made usb correctly
[06:03] <Ivanov> but i never get to setup
[06:03] <Ivanov> i get to unetbootin's menu, hit 'install', see ubuntu loading screen some, then (initramfs) out of the blue
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> Ivanov: you didnt see the purple ubuntu loading screen at usb first boot?
[06:03] <Ivanov> yeah i do see the screen
[06:03] <Ivanov> i just never make it to setup itself
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> Ivanov: then its normal
[06:04] <TJ-> Iriez: Sorry, I missed your question! You only need to do "mount /dev/sda3 /media/linux" prior to the chroot in order to have everything in place. When in the chroot it would be worth checking that "/etc/fstab" does list /dev/sda3 (or its UUID/Label) as being mounted to /boot
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> Ivanov: wait a little longer
[06:04] <Ivanov> ok as long as its normal i guess i will try again yeah
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> Ivanov: after the initram, it should lead you to try/install part
[06:04] <Iriez> Ah, okay. So the mount /dev/sda3 /boot is not neccessary, correct?
[06:05] <TJ-> Ivanov: If you are getting the initramfs shell prompt, something went wrong. The trick is to find out what! Try adding "debug" and removing any "splash quiet" to the kernel's command-line in the boot loader menu
[06:05] <Ivanov> lotuspsychje: but then why does unetbootin have a menu?
[06:06] <mychoice> helo..
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> Ivanov: i never used unetbootin, been on ubuntu for years now :p
[06:06] <mychoice> someone can help me with my usb modem?
[06:06] <Iriez> TJ: i would love to check, however im unsure how
[06:06] <TJ-> Iriez: No, that should be done automatically (when the system boots correctly) via "/etc/fstab" - if that entry is missing it could explain why an "update-grub" didn't work as expected (since it'd just create/write to a /boot/ directory inside the encrypted file-system
[06:06] <Ivanov> hm well i guess i will try again
[06:07] <Iriez> TJ: Could you please expand on the command required to see that fstab outputs sda3?
[06:07] <Iriez> im looking in a file browser and do not see a fstab in /etc
[06:07] <TJ-> Iriez: To check, once inside the chroot, do "grep '/boot' /etc/fstab" - if nothing comes back, you'll need to add a line to that file
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> !ask | mychoice
[06:08] <Iriez> TJ: I just ran "grep '/boot' /etc/fstab" and it outputted nothing
[06:08] <TJ-> Iriez: to obtain the UUID of a file-system you can do (as root) "blkid -o value -s UUID /dev/sda3"
[06:08] <TJ-> Iriez: OK, so that needs fixing too!
[06:08] <mychoice> how if the usb modem doesn't automaticaly detected ?
[06:09] <Iriez> TJ: Great progress! :)
[06:09] <Iriez> im just happy im getting somewhere, lol
[06:09] <Iriez> I've been messing with this damn grub for too many hours now :)
[06:09] <Rahail> hi i know its not ubuntu thing i am haivng some issue with remastersys when trying to create iso from my current ubuntu can some one help ,e
[06:09] <Rahail> me
[06:10] <Rahail> it run as live cd i dont get option to install
[06:10] <Rahail> some people said something with ubiqutiy
[06:10] <Rahail> .. is ee when i am making iso i get this msg on log
[06:10] <Rahail> Removing the ubiquity frontend as it has been included and is not needed on the normal system
[06:10] <cfhowlett> Rahail, remastersys is no longer maintained.  consider your options.
[06:11] <Rahail> this ubuntu12
[06:11] <Rahail> there is no other way to get with remastersys
[06:12] <TJ-> Iriez: Here's a command that can generate the required line for you. DEV=/dev/sda3; BLKID="blkid -o value -s "; echo "UUID=$($BLKID UUID) /boot $($BLKID TYPE) defaults 0 2"
[06:13] <Iriez> TJ: after running that command i redid the grep command to make sure it outputs info and it did not
[06:13] <TJ-> Iriez: To pipe that line directly into "/etc/fstab" add the following to the end of that line (including the 2 greater-than symbols):  >> /etc/fstab
[06:13] <Iriez> after running the command it outputted all sorts of hashes/addresse
[06:14] <Iriez> ah, okay
[06:14] <Iriez> lol
[06:14] <Iriez> Thats what was missing :)
[06:14] <TJ-> Iriez: That command was only showing the info to you to prove it worked... adding the pipe will **append** it to the file
[06:14] <Iriez> you know, this is great
[06:14] <Iriez> Im finally starting to remember all the linux stuff I learned 10 years ago
[06:14] <Iriez> Its very slowly coming back :)
[06:14] <TJ-> Iriez: I *know* that feeling ... I'm like that even after a couple of months :)
[06:15] <Iriez> now i just run the grub-install /dev/sda yes?
[06:15] <Iriez> i almost rebooted hahahaha
[06:16] <Iriez> (and i checked, it outputs the info now from fstab)
[06:16] <TJ-> Iriez: Yes... and afterwards, let me give you some commands to tidy up the unwanted grub files in the root file-system, to avoid any confusion later!
[06:16] <Iriez> joy!
[06:17] <Iriez> dreaded bash minimal prompt :(
[06:18] <Iriez> should i re-run the bootinfoscript?
[06:18] <TJ-> Iriez: Yes... and afterwards, let me give you some commands to tidy up the unwanted grub files in the root file-system, to avoid any confusion later!
[06:18] <TJ-> Did you reboot already?
[06:18] <Iriez> yes
[06:18] <Ivanov> so now i saw an error this time
[06:18] <TJ-> Iriez: Grrr!
[06:18] <Iriez> i know :-/
[06:18] <Ivanov> it wasnt able to find a live file system
[06:18] <TJ-> Iriez: What error?
[06:18] <Iriez> no error
[06:18] <Iriez> just throws me to the grub minimal bash
[06:18] <Guest34238> change destop
[06:18] <TJ-> Iriez: Is the USB bootable device still connected?
[06:18] <Iriez> no
[06:19] <Iriez> took it out :)
[06:20] <TJ-> Iriez: OK, then I suspect what happened was GRUB used the wrong device-map from the chroot and wrote to the USB stick's /boot/grub/ instead. Get back into the chroot and lets clean things up. When you do, initially do *not* do the "mount /dev/sda3 /media/linux"
[06:20] <Iriez> sure, 1 min
[06:20] <TJ-> Iriez: Instead, go into the chroot and lets clean out the existing /boot/grub/ from the root file-system
[06:21] <TJ-> Iriez: Then, you can "exit" the chroot, do "mount /dev/sda3 /media/linux", re-enter the chroot, and sort things out
[06:21] <abc> How to change launcher to drop down menu
[06:21] <TJ-> Iriez: brb... going to put that coffee pot on!
[06:21] <abc> How to change launcher to drop down menu in Ubuntu-Linux 12.04.01 LTS
[06:23] <mmazing> on a side note - building qemu from scratch takes for goddamn ever
[06:23] <Iriez> TJ: okay, im in jail
[06:23] <KLVTZ>  I'm having trouble creating a virtual host in ubuntu 13.10. I have added the proper line to /etc/hosts, I added a conf file to sites-available and I made the sym link to sites-enabled. I
[06:23] <KLVTZ>           have added the appropriate lines to the conf file and have restarted my server. But when I log on to my new virtual host it works, but it doesn't go to the document root i indicated. Instead it goes to
[06:24] <KLVTZ>           my default localhost on the browser. I mean the url is my virtual host but its showing my localhost root index.
[06:24] <Iriez> (and i did not mount sda3 to /media/linux/boot)
[06:25] <lickalott> wtf is the point of ubuntu-server??  Everyone comes here for answers anyway
[06:26] <lickalott> anyway, I'm out.  g'night all
[06:26] <mmazing> o/
[06:29] <KLVTZ> My apologies. I did not know there was a seperate channel involving server development for ubunty
[06:29] <KLVTZ> I will leave and enter that chat
[06:29] <KLVTZ> thank you
[06:38] <Iriez> TJ: I hope its french vanilla coffee.
[06:38] <Iriez> Thats my favorite.
[06:44] <boldfilter1> Hey ubuntu chat
[06:45] <TJ-> Iriez: sorry I was so long... its breakfast-time here :)
[06:45] <Iriez> Its quite alright.
[06:45] <Iriez> Im still a hour away from bed time
[06:45] <Iriez> :)
[06:47] <TJ-> OK, where are we at? What's done/not done?
[06:47] <Iriez> im in chroot
[06:47] <Iriez> awaiting your cleanup instructions
[06:47] <Iriez> i've mounted everything already
[06:48] <Iriez> except for sda3 to /media/linux/boot as you said not to.
[06:49] <TJ-> Iriez: OK ... so lets discover if there's some GRUB files in /boot/ that ought not to be there, and if so, remove them. "ls -la /boot/grub/" ... if you get any results that means we need to remove the directory using "rm -rf /boot/grub"
[06:50] <Iriez> oh yea
[06:50] <Iriez> lots of results
[06:50] <Iriez> removed.
[06:53] <TJ-> Iriez: OK, "exit" , do the mount, re-enter the chroot
[06:53] <TJ-> Iriez: Then we'll check that grub-install does its job correctly
[06:54] <Iriez> okay done
[06:55] <TJ-> Iriez: Now check that there's a /boot/grub/ directory "ls -la /boot/grub/"
[06:55] <mychoice> is there any other option except wvdial for usb modem that doesn't  detected
[06:55] <Iriez> yea, lots o files
[06:55] <Iriez> but there should be right?
[06:55] <Iriez> since i just mounted /sda3 to /boot
[06:55] <Iriez> so its showing me everything on sda3 right now yes?
[06:56] <TJ-> Iriez: Yes, just checking something has been previously written there
[06:56] <Iriez> ah, i get it
[06:56] <Iriez> we were mounting over a spot that already had files in there
[06:56] <Iriez> and the installer was just installing the crap that was already in there
[06:56] <TJ-> Iriez: Yes. the root of /dev/sda3 it /boot/ which contains the kernel and initrd images
[06:57] <TJ-> Iriez: when using those unmodified instructions that didn't account for the separate /boot/ the files were written into the encrypted root file-system
[06:58] <TJ-> Iriez: So, now, we've sorted that out but we need to ensure that - because the running OS is on the USB - that grub-install doesn't use that instead of the hard disk
[06:58] <Iriez> okay
[06:58] <TJ-> Iriez: GRUB has the concept of a device-map which we need to make use of
[06:58] <Iriez> yes, for the lvm
[06:58] <Iriez> will i need to clean up the boot files out of the encrypted lvm too ?
[06:58] <Iriez> or does it not matter since its not a bootable partition
[06:59] <TJ-> Iriez: You've already done that; the encrypted file-system is the one mounted to /media/linux/ - or ought to be!
[07:00] <Iriez> oh yes, correct
[07:00] <Iriez> :)
[07:00] <Iriez> hah
[07:01] <Iriez> sometimes im not really understanding what im doing. Good that the light bulb goes on sometimes.
[07:01] <nbros652> anybody know if it's possible to get av codecs from windows (.dll, .ax files) to work in Ubuntu?
[07:01] <saleniex> hi!
[07:02] <eZ_ImFoReaL> :q
[07:03] <TJ-> Iriez: Inside the chroot regenerate the device map using "grub-mkdevicemap" then check it using "cat /boot/grub/device.map" and tell me/pastebin what it shows
[07:04] <saleniex> I have  problem with PPP on broadband modem. In logs i see "/usr/sbin/pppd: unknown host: /sys/devices/pci0000"
[07:04] <saleniex> how device might be releated with host?
[07:05] <Iriez> yes
[07:05] <Iriez> it has my HD and my USB in there
[07:08] <TJ-> Iriez: show me the output
[07:08] <Iriez> (hd0) /dev/disk/by-id/ata-crucial.....id string...
[07:09] <Iriez> (hd1) /dev/disk/by-id/usb-_usb_flash_memory_id string here -0:0
[07:10] <babinlonston> hi all, is there any IRC for vsftpd ?
[07:10] <TJ-> Iriez: OK, so we need to ensure it uses hd0
[07:10] <babinlonston> yes i got vsftpd
[07:10] <Iriez> i like vsftpd!
[07:10] <Iriez> i still use it on one of my servers
[07:11] <airtonix> sigh ftp? really? /facepalm.
[07:11] <Iriez> TJ: I had a long talk with bash and told it to use hd0
[07:11] <Iriez> but i dont think that will work.
[07:15] <Iriez> TJ: Thats my way of saying
[07:15] <Iriez> "I dont know how to tell it to use hd0"
[07:15] <TJ-> Iriez: And I'm trying to find an article I wrote on it for this since my memory has also gone!
[07:16] <Iriez> ah cheers
[07:18] <MarGul> Is uniscan legal to use to test a website? I havent fully set up my own server yet and want to try out and see how it works
[07:22] <jjb123> Hey everyone, I have a smb question if anyone has time. I have a Ubuntu server that runs an SMB server on my network. It uses security = USER which should make it use system accounts for auth. I recently changed my main account's linux password and now I can't log into samba anymore. I can still log in with another account that I did not change the password for. Is there anyway to flush or reset SMB? I tried searching around but couldn't 
[07:23] <Kartagis> jjb123: did you change your linux user's password or samba password?
[07:25] <jjb123> Kartagis: Linux user's. I can log in with the user via ssh & other services that use the account password but not through samba.
[07:25] <jjb123> Kartagis: I tried restarting the service and restarting the server.
[07:25] <Kartagis> jjb123: change your samba password as well
[07:27] <TJ-> Iriez: OK, do a "grub-install" and pastebin all its output. If the system has Internet access you can install a helper "apt-get install pastebinit" and then do "grub-install 2>&1 | pastebinit"
[07:28] <Mario___> Hola
[07:28] <cfhowlett> Mario___, greetings
[07:28] <redGod> does anyone here know how to remove the cap on the volume?
[07:29] <Mario___> Hola Cf.. tengo una consulta sobre la instalacion de Ubuntu.
[07:30] <TJ-> !es
[07:31] <startx> hi
[07:32] <Iriez> ok
[07:32] <Iriez> sorry TJ
[07:32] <Iriez> i totally missed your line
[07:32] <TJ-> Iriez: I just realised, I didn't check *which* logical device name those device maps map to... can you do "ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/*" and pastebin the output?
[07:33] <Mario___> ok  i need some help... i want to install ubuntu but now i just have an empty usb..  what do i do?.. just copy the files from the iso file to the usb?
[07:33] <startx> how I install vlc from terminal ?
[07:33] <TJ-> Iriez: We need to ensure that /dev/sda currently isn't the USB and is definitely the HDD, since those names are sometimes determined by the BIOS/firmware boot order
[07:33] <Iriez> yes sec
[07:33] <imghost> !vlc | startx
[07:34] <imghost> startx, sudo apt-get install vlc
[07:34] <aeon-ltd> Mario___: did you want this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[07:34] <startx> thanx imghost
[07:34] <imghost> startx, :)
[07:34] <Mario___> Ok.. i will see thanks a lot aeon...
[07:35] <Iriez> www.pastebin.com/RZ6DjYhG
[07:35] <Iriez> TJ: there ya go!
[07:36] <startx> imghost error msg"unable to locate package vlc"
[07:37] <imghost> startx, what version are you on?
[07:37] <startx> xubunt 13.10
[07:39] <TJ-> Iriez: OK, that confirms sda is the HDD... so you can do "grub-install /dev/sda 2>&1 | pastebinit"
[07:39] <TJ-> Iriez: the output should tell us where it wrote to... if not, we have to add some 'verbose' option
[07:39] <jefersen> hello
[07:39] <Iriez> it says it cannot find pastebinit
[07:39] <Iriez> for apt-get
[07:39] <TJ-> Iriez: what Ubuntu version?
[07:40] <Iriez> can i just do grub-install /dev/sda >> temp.txt
[07:40] <Iriez> this is system rescue cd based on gentoo
[07:40] <skdf> http://jsmachines.net/
[07:40] <TJ-> Iriez: You can do "grub-install /dev/sda 2>&1 >/tmp/install.txt" (which also redirects stderr to the file)
[07:41] <startx> sudo apt-get install vlc error msg"unable to locate package vlc "
[07:41] <jefersen> im trying to install this project from github - https://github.com/grangier/python-goose
[07:41] <startx> anyone help
[07:41] <jefersen> but im getting an error with giving the correct admin rights or something
[07:41] <Iriez> no error reported
[07:41] <fidel__> startx: what gives: apt-cache policy vlc?
[07:41] <Iriez> installation finished
[07:42] <Iriez> thats all that got written to install.txt
[07:42] <jefersen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6582334/ can someone help?
[07:42] <TJ-> Iriez: OK, can you pastebin the generated "/boot/grub/grub.cfg" ?
[07:42] <startx> fidel__ cauldn't find any package by regax "vlc"
[07:43] <Iriez> grub.conf  ?
[07:43] <TJ-> jefersen: You'll need to prefix the "pip ..." command with "sudo "
[07:43] <fidel__> startx: and apt does work for other packages?
[07:44] <TJ-> Iriez: what version of GRUB is it? I assumed its grub2
[07:44] <startx> no anyone
[07:44] <skdf> http://www.buttonbass.com/dubstepcube.html
[07:44] <fidel__> startx: i am getting offered 2.0.8-1 0 via: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ saucy/universe
[07:44] <TJ-> startx: Do you have the "universe" repository enabled?
[07:44] <fidel__> startx: so apt isnt working in general - not only regarding the vlc poackage right?
[07:44] <aeon-ltd> jefersen: in addition to TJ- , were you supposed to use something like fakeroot?
[07:45] <Iriez> TJ: 1.99-21ubuntu3.9
[07:45] <TJ-> Iriez: OK, so it should be "/boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[07:45] <Iriez> TJ: www.pastebin.com/hUpQ98q1
[07:45] <startx> fidel__  thx
[07:45] <fidel__> startx: if so - check your sources in /etc/apt
[07:45] <Iriez> TJ: there's only a grub.conf in /boot/grub/
[07:45] <imghost> startx, sorry i got disconnected
[07:45] <Iriez> not a grub.cfg
[07:45] <startx> fidel__  :ok
[07:46] <startx> imghost:no problem
[07:46] <TJ-> Iriez: huh?? that's for Gentoo too! Is this an Ubuntu or Gentoo installation in the chroot?
[07:46] <Iriez> thats the odd thing
[07:46] <Iriez> this is indeed on the system rescue cd
[07:46] <Iriez> which says its gentoo
[07:47] <Iriez> so, im assuming its gentoo
[07:47] <startx> imghost& fidel_ I am updating 'sudo apt-get update'
[07:47] <Iriez> the article we've been referecing the whole tut is written in this system rescue disc
[07:47] <TJ-> Iriez: AHHHH! You're supposed to be showing me the file from *inside* the chroot! To get to it from outside you need to do "cat /media/linux/boot/grub/grub.cfg" :)
[07:47] <Iriez> so i've been inside this system rescue cd :)
[07:47] <startx> imghost& fidel_ after I ll try to install vlc
[07:47] <Iriez> ah, haha, okay thanks
[07:47] <TJ-> Iriez: Sorry, I assumed all commands were inside the chroot
[07:47] <skdf> why vlc so slow?
[07:48] <Iriez> hrm, there's no grub.cfg in there???
[07:48]  * Iriez brain hurts
[07:48] <startx> skdf: update your vlc.I think
[07:49] <Iriez> im looking in /media/linux/boot/grub/
[07:49] <Iriez> grldr.img, grubenv, gzio.mod
[07:49] <Iriez> in order, but no grub.cfg ??
[07:49] <Iriez> so strange :-/
[07:49] <Iriez> and
[07:49] <inq> hi
[07:50] <skdf> no
[07:50] <Iriez> i *AM* inside the chroot ...?
[07:50] <skdf> i thinknnew vlc is full s
[07:50] <Iriez> i apologize, i used emelFM2 to look at /boot
[07:50] <skdf> http://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living why my sity sucks in russia?
[07:50] <Iriez> which i should have realized was outside jail
[07:50] <Iriez> but, im in the correct dir now and there's no grub.cfg
[07:51] <imghost> startx, vlc installed?
[07:52] <startx> imghost:currently i m using 'sudo apt-get update' after i will try to install vlc
[07:52] <imghost> startx, ok
[07:52] <LigH> Greetings. I have one machine with 12.04 LTS where kernel 3.8.0-33 boots to LightDM, but kernel 3.8.0-34 gets stuck in text mode. How can I discover the reason?
[07:52] <Guest13741> "This cahbinet ministah...he always travel on the wrong side of the boarder"
[07:53] <b100dyh311> what's the error message?
[07:53] <LigH> Me? ... Stays with blank screen and blinking cursor top-left.
[07:53] <TJ-> Iriez: You're runing "grub-install ..." whilst inside the chroot, yes? as in, you've done "chroot /media/linux ..."
[07:53] <imghost> LigH, did you try any other de?
[07:54] <LigH> I set up Gnome-Classic.
[07:54] <LigH> THere are other machines where kernel 3.8.0-34 boots fine.
[07:54] <Iriez> TJ: yes
[07:54] <imghost> LigH, paste the output of cat /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[07:54] <TJ-> LigH: Can 3.8.0-34 boot to a single-user recovery session ?
[07:54] <Iriez> and I just re-did the process to reverify
[07:55] <TJ-> Iriez: OK, then something is not correct
[07:55] <Iriez> :(
[07:56] <LigH> imghost: http://paste.frubar.net/15827
[07:56] <Iriez> TJ: maybe i should be doing this with grub2?
[07:56] <LigH> TJ-: Can try ...#
[07:56] <Guest13741> Any versions of Linux Kernel that are better to work with over others.  Probably one of the older builds its just which lol
[07:57] <skdf> SteamOS better Ubuntu?
[07:57] <cfhowlett> skdf, better for games, yes
[07:57] <LigH> Rebooting, testing recovery mode...
[07:57] <skdf> and for all other
[07:58] <skdf> internet...
[07:58] <cfhowlett> skdf, suggest you actually do some research at http://store.steampowered.com/steamos/
[07:59] <TJ-> Iriez: You have grub2, the naming convention for the package is from the days of the change-over from GRUB v1 to v2
[08:00] <Iriez> oh, haha, okay
[08:00] <hianhif> Hello folks, i've come across a problem i just cant seem to solve. My graphics gets laggy 40-60 seconds after i log in to my desktop. And my FPS in games have dropped dramatically. I have tried serveral different ways of uninstalling / installing new / old GFX drivers. None of which makes a difference. I have tried several of my backups all presenting the same problem (tho they where not there before) Which leads me to conclude that
[08:00] <hianhif> i have somehow "added" the problem by installing something, since restoring my system too an earlier state has no effect on things that was not there before but are there now!  Any advice and or help is appreciated.  Ubuntu 12.04 Proprietary ATI drivers (Tried several different flavors) AMD radeon HD 5850.
[08:00] <TJ-> Iriez: If *nothing* was written to /boot/grub/ then it is going somewhere else... which makes me think the chroot config mount-points may not be correct after all
[08:01] <Iriez> ayieee.
[08:02] <Iriez> The most frustrating part of this is i had the damn thing working the night before the last
[08:02] <Iriez> but i got so excited about having a dual boot dual encrypted setup that i had to go and ruin it
[08:02] <imghost> LigH, there?
[08:02] <Iriez> i just dont understand why it didnt setup correctly when i did it this time around
[08:02] <LigH> TJ-: Recovery menu appeared. After "resume", booting continued, tty login briefly appeared, X.org boot prepared, then stuck in blank text mode. After pressing Ctrl+Alt+Del, "acpid exited".
[08:03] <imghost> LigH, reboot will not slolve your problem, use dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[08:03] <TJ-> Iriez: Let's find out what config it generates. Inside the chroot (of course!) do "/usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig > /tmp/grub.cfg" and pastebin that file
[08:03] <shafox> chrome freezes on 12.04 and hangs up the box totally. have to hard restart every time .
[08:03] <Guest13741> Which Ring does the Linux GUI reside?
[08:04] <LigH> imghost: After booting into runlevel 2 or 3?
[08:04] <TJ-> LigH: Good, that confirms the issue isn't with the newer kernel or initrd. If imghost suggestions don't solve it, if you are using proprietary graphics drivers you may need to rebuild the binary bits to match the new kernel if that failed during kernel installation
[08:04] <Guest13741> yes
[08:04] <Guest13741> the gui always crashes first
[08:04] <Iriez> TJ: www.pastebin.com/aw0xXU98
[08:05] <LigH> TJ-: Yes, porprietary nvidia-319, I believe...
[08:06] <imghost> LigH, did you try to switch graphics card?
[08:06] <TJ-> LigH: It could be an nvidia kernel shim issue but I'd expect that to cause a simple Xorg failure not a hang. If all else fails, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if the X server is starting and/or getting stuck
[08:06] <LigH> Do I have to boot 3.8.0-34 in runlevel 2 or 3 to reconfigure dpkg, or may I run it now, having booted 3.8.0-33?
[08:07] <imghost> LigH, first clear me did you try to switch your graphics cards?
[08:07] <LigH> imghost: How? Do you expect me to own several graphic cards?
[08:07] <imghost> LigH, you said nvidia
[08:07] <TJ-> Iriez: That is weird, it didn't find the Linux installation so didn't create a grub menu entry for it.
[08:08] <skdf> SteamOS hav better fps?
[08:08] <Iriez> TJ: super weird
[08:08] <imghost> LigH, paste the output of lspci -v | grep -i vga
[08:09] <Iriez> Uhm, this may be a stupid question but
[08:09] <TJ-> Iriez: I think I'm getting lost! Terrible not having remote access ... flying blind deaf and without arms and legs!
[08:09] <Iriez> if the partition is logical instead of primary, it will still see it yes?
[08:09] <ray__> hello
[08:09] <TJ-> Iriez: Yes
[08:09] <Iriez> and lvscan shows both root/swap partitions
[08:09] <TJ-> Iriez: Logical partitions are just a way to get more than 4 partitions into a partition table that can only store 4 entries, but chaining to additional partition tables
[08:10] <Iriez> erm
[08:10] <Iriez> TJ
[08:10] <Iriez> im not seeing the files that need to be here
[08:11] <Iriez> in /dev/lvm/root
[08:11] <Iriez> (which is my partition for the OS
[08:11] <LigH> I have a GeForce 9600 GT for several years now, and I always use current proprietary nvidia drivers. But I just discovered that no driver is activated, possibly due to the known issues with kernel 3.11 (void not ignored).
[08:11] <LigH> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G94 [GeForce 9600 GT] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[08:11] <Iriez> I see Desktop, a kernel, pictures, public, etc
[08:11] <jefersen> (aeon-ltd) what do you mean by TJ-
[08:11] <Iriez> but not the usual stuff, like /etc
[08:11] <Iriez> gawd
[08:11] <Iriez> it must have been a bad install
[08:11] <Iriez> im very confused however
[08:12] <Iriez> as in my ubuntu usb boot
[08:12] <Iriez> i could see the files!?!?
[08:12] <Iriez> but on this OS, i cannot
[08:12] <TJ-> Iriez: Lets go back and try something slightly different. My tiredness is misleading us! "exit" the chroot, "umount /media/linux/boot", re-enter the chroot, "mount /dev/sda3 /boot" then "grub-install /dev/sda" then "ls -la /boot/grub/" and "cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg" and pastebin it
[08:12] <LigH> I should remove the 3.11 kernels.
[08:13] <Iriez> hrm, says target busy for umount boot
[08:13] <TJ-> Iriez: That sounds like you're seeing a /home/ mount !!!
[08:13] <Iriez> TJ: indeed it does
[08:13] <jefersen> (TJ-) thanks for that!
[08:13] <Iriez> TJ: nm got it unmounted
[08:13] <imghost> LigH, kernel loads defaults modules, if you want to use proprietary divers then you need to put that module
[08:14] <Iriez> TJ: what would cause it to mount /home instead of / ?
[08:14] <imghost> LigH, otherwise kernel will load by default open source
[08:15] <TJ-> Iriez: Well, that is the mount commands you issue prior to chroot ... if you choose the *wrong* root file-system from the LVs and mount it to /media/linux/ that would explain alot!
[08:15] <Iriez> okay, well lets take a step backwards
[08:15] <TJ-> Iriez: I suggest we reboot and start again and I see/follow along command-by-command to check what is happening?
[08:15] <Iriez> when i run lvscan
[08:15] <Iriez> i get /dev/lvm/root and /dev/lvm/swap
[08:16] <Iriez> i mounted /dev/lvm/root to /media/linux
[08:16] <Iriez> if i cd to /dev/lvm/root right now
[08:16] <Iriez> i get the /home dir
[08:16] <Iriez> so...what on earth is going wrong
[08:16] <Iriez> should i reboot?>
[08:16] <helmut_> hi
[08:17] <Iriez> also, i have a internet connection on this
[08:17] <TJ-> Iriez: That sounds ominous - sounds like you've lost the root FS
[08:17] <Iriez> yea
[08:17] <Iriez> which is weird.
[08:17] <Iriez> because it was there in my other boot in ubuntu
[08:17] <Iriez> i recall seeing all the normal dirs in /
[08:17] <Iriez> eh well im gonna reboot and check
[08:18] <TJ-> Ok, what does "ls -ls /dev/mapper/" show?
[08:18] <Iriez> too late lol
[08:18] <TJ-> Iriez: I'm wondering if you forgot the LUKS open step
[08:18] <Iriez> no, i did not
[08:18] <Iriez> i typed in the pass
[08:18] <TJ-> Iriez: no harm... we need to start from a clean base by now
[08:18] <Iriez> though
[08:18] <Iriez> one thing i did notice
[08:18] <Iriez> in that guide it shows output after typing the luksOpen
[08:18] <Iriez> i never get output?
[08:19] <Iriez> no errors tho
[08:19] <LigH> imghost: I know, there are OpenSource drivers with little accelleration. But proprietary drivers with good accelleration fail to install with kernels v3.10+, baybe this failure also disabled them for kernels where the installation still worked.
[08:19] <TJ-> Iriez: After opening it, it contains the VG ?
[08:19] <LigH> So I will remove 3.11 kernels.
[08:19] <LigH> Then the prop. drivers should install successfully again.
[08:19] <Iriez> TJ: sorry, VG = ?
[08:20] <TJ-> LigH: No they don't, but you need to use the Xorg-edgers PPA to obtain the very latest nvidia drivers. I use 3.12 with nvidia-331
[08:20] <TJ-> Iriez: LVM Volume Group
[08:21] <LigH> I'll wait for that until Ubuntu offers updated packages. I don't need bleeding-edge kernels.
[08:21] <Iriez> TJ: after entering the pass i do vgscan and it shows my lvm (named lvm)
[08:21] <Iriez> so i vgchange -a y lvm
[08:22] <Iriez> and lvscan shows /dev/lvm/root and /dev/lvm/swap
[08:23] <Iriez> hrm, mounted root to /media/linux and now its showing the FS
[08:23] <Iriez> odd.
[08:23] <Iriez> maybe it will work this time?
[08:23] <TJ-> Iriez: The correct root FS?
[08:23] <Iriez> yes
[08:23] <TJ-> OK, do the mount of /dev/sda3 from *inside* the chroot
[08:24] <TJ-> Iriez: not outside, as I said previously
[08:24] <Iriez> okay, sure roger
[08:24] <imghost> LigH, ok, but i think latest kernels comes with better hardwares support :)any way its your machine your choice
[08:25] <LigH> It's not the latest hardware anyway.
[08:26] <LigH> It used to work well for a good time.
[08:26] <Iriez> TJ: i ran grub-install /dev/sda after mounting sd3 to /boot
[08:26] <Iriez> and i get no such file for cat /boot/grub/grug.cfg inside chroot
[08:26] <Iriez> sda3*
[08:27] <Iriez> and yes, i mounted sda3 inside chroot
[08:27] <TJ-> Hmmm.... is there anything in /boot/grub/ ?
[08:27] <Iriez> yea
[08:28] <Iriez> tons o stuffs.
[08:28] <TJ-> Iriez: Is "grug.cfg" a typo or is that the actual filename you tried to 'cat' ?
[08:28] <Iriez> typo
[08:28] <Iriez> grub.cfg does not exist.
[08:29] <Iriez> grubenv and then gzio.mod
[08:29] <TJ-> Let's try finding out which packages are installed in the chroot: "dpkg-query -l 'grub*'
[08:29] <Iriez> that gives me a > prompt
[08:29] <Iriez> nm
[08:29] <Iriez> missed the last '
[08:30] <Iriez> pastbining, sec
[08:30] <Iriez> www.pastebin.com/FJVKYyhF
[08:31] <Madkiss> What happened to packages.ubuntu.com?
[08:32] <lyh> every one there ?
[08:34] <TJ-> Iriez: That's good; everything I expect to see
[08:35] <TJ-> Iriez: does the chroot have 'strace' ? ("which strace")
[08:35] <Madkiss> Also, I installed Kernel 3.13.0 on my Ubuntu machine, and now, while trying to install DKMS modules, I get "kernel package linux-headers-3.13.0-031300rc3-generic is not supported"
[08:35] <Madkiss> is there a newer version of dkms available somewhere?
[08:36] <lyh> excuse me .who knows the amarok?
[08:37] <Iriez> hrm
[08:37] <Iriez> i get output when i do strace -v
[08:38] <Iriez> --version does nothing
[08:38] <TJ-> Iriez: OK, let's trace what grub-install gets up to.
[08:39] <TJ-> Iriez: "strace -f -e trace=file grub-install /dev/sda"
[08:39] <TJ-> Iriez: hang on
[08:39] <TJ-> Iriez: "strace -f -e trace=file grub-install /dev/sda 2>&1 | tee /tmp/strace.log"
[08:39] <TJ-> Iriez: that way you get to see the output and capture it
[08:39] <Iriez> oh ya
[08:39] <Iriez> lots of output haha
[08:39] <TJ-> Iriez: Every file access call to the OS
[08:40] <TJ-> If its 'big' and won't fit in a pastebin we'll have to upload it to a binary repo
[08:41] <Iriez> seems to fit
[08:41] <Iriez> ah snap
[08:41] <Iriez> doesnt
[08:42] <Iriez> sec getting url
[08:42] <Iriez> www.sendspace.com/file/gnxohj
[08:42] <Iriez> www.sendspace.com/file/gnx0hj
[08:42] <Iriez> correction
[08:44] <Iriez> and as much as im beyond exceedingly grateful for your time and assistence, im falling asleep here and wont last much longer. Im becoming a grandpa and tend to nod out past midnight now lol
[08:44] <Iriez> i figure that might take you a while to trace
[08:44] <Jordan_U> Iriez: Are you still getting a grub rescue shell at boot?
[08:45] <Iriez> Jordan: yup
[08:45] <Jordan_U> Iriez: What error message do you see before the rescue shell?
[08:46] <Iriez> none.
[08:46] <TJ-> Iriez: OK... missing link hehehe ... do "update-grub"  !!
[08:46] <Iriez> you got the file?
[08:46] <TJ-> Iriez: yes, just been reading it
[08:46] <Iriez> and did update.
[08:47] <Iriez> Jordan_U: TJ here seems to be the master of grub and is finding every needle in these gigantic haystacks
[08:47] <Iriez> Still not sure whats going on however.
[08:47] <TJ-> Iriez: except the one that matters... I'm tired and got tunnel vision!
[08:49] <TJ-> Iriez: "execve("/usr/bin/grub-mkimage", ["/usr/bin/grub-mkimage", "-d", "/usr/lib/grub/i386-pc", "-O", "i386-pc", "--output=/boot/grub/core.img", "--prefix=(,msdos3)/grub", "biosdisk", "ext2", "part_msdos"]"
[08:49] <Jordan_U> Iriez: What is the output of "ls $prefix/" from the rescue shell?
[08:50] <TJ-> Iriez: That confirms it is using partition 3 as the prefix
[08:50] <Iriez> okay
[08:50] <Iriez> Jordan: stuck in chroot on a rescude disc at the moment
[08:51] <Jordan_U> Iriez: Also, booting from Super GRUB2 Disk (either burned to a CD or dd'd to a USB drive) should allow you to boot your system.
[08:51] <Iriez> Jordan: Even with a encrypted LVM?
[08:52] <TJ-> Iriez: Yes, since the decryption occurs during Linux kernel/initrd
[08:53] <Iriez> cool, i will check it out
[08:53] <Iriez> do you think that will help me resolve the issue?
[08:53] <Iriez> or as just a bypass?
[08:53] <Jordan_U> Iriez: Yes (and for the record, grub does support reading from LUKS encrypted volumes).
[08:54] <TJ-> Iriez: Bypass.
[08:54] <Iriez> I knew that it does, but just thought that it needed to know beforehand that there was a crypt setup to appropriately trigger the crypt unlocking portion
[08:54] <Iriez> TJ: thanks for the clarification
[08:54] <Iriez> And yea, dont need a bypass
[08:54] <Iriez> I need it to boot as normal :)
[08:54] <TJ-> Iriez: On my systems I even have the /boot/ partition LUKS-encrypted
[08:55] <Iriez> TJ: hah!
[08:55] <Iriez> gotta encrypt that grub!
[08:55] <Iriez> super secret files there! :P
[08:56] <TJ-> Iriez: No... simply to prevent alternate OS booting/snooping in the event the laptops are lost
[08:56] <Iriez> makes sense
[08:56] <Iriez> TJ: is there any chance we could continue this on in 18 hours?
[08:56] <TJ-> Iriez: OK... I've duplicated things here. 'grub-install' is doing the correct thing...
[08:57] <Iriez> unless you see some progress :)
[08:57] <TJ-> Iriez: "update-grub" is the culprit (via grub-mkconfig) if it isn't writing /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[08:58] <Iriez> heh
[08:58] <Jordan_U> TJ-: A missing grub.cfg would not bring Iriez to a rescue shell, just to a grub shell.
[08:58] <Iriez> you know whats awesome
[08:58] <Iriez> TJ: grub.cfg exists now
[08:58] <Iriez> after that last update
[08:58] <TJ-> Iriez: OK, are the entries in it correct?
[08:59] <Jordan_U> Iriez: Are you really getting a prompt like "rescue> " at boot, or is it one like "grub> "?
[08:59] <TJ-> Iriez: pastebin that, then if OK we can focus on the boot time issue as Jordan is talking about
[08:59] <Iriez> No, still no linux OS
[08:59] <Iriez> Jordan: I get a GRUB GNU 'minimal bash' prompt
[09:00] <Iriez> www.pastebin.com/f28tunsa
[09:00] <Iriez> is the cfg
[09:00] <popassy> how do i know if my router is wps enabled?
[09:01] <TJ-> Iriez: OK, that suggests the kernels are missing. Show us "ls -la /boot/"
[09:01] <Jordan_U> Iriez: Is the prompt, the text on the screen just before where you input new commands, "rescue> " or "grub> "?
[09:01] <Iriez> popassy: run the command 'wash'
[09:01] <Iriez> it will show all WPS enabled devices within range
[09:02] <Iriez> TJ: grub and lost+found is in /boot
[09:02] <TJ-> Iriez: OK, there's the problem! "   dpkg-query -l 'linux*' | grep '^ii'  "
[09:02] <popassy> it says failed to open wlan0 for capturing Iriez
[09:02] <TJ-> Iriez: Kernels need installing!
[09:02] <Iriez> try mon0
[09:02] <Iriez> TJ: woohoo!
[09:02] <Iriez> popassy: have you set wlan0 into monitor mode?
[09:02] <popassy> Iriez: how to do that
[09:03] <TJ-> Iriez: for some reason I assumed but didn't ask to check if they were present. I suspect the mix-up with the /boot/ mount may have caused that, since they'd have been written into the encrypted LVM not /boot/ file-system
[09:04] <Iriez> popassy: airmon-ng start wlan0
[09:04] <bulletfreak> nted technologies.[not verified in body]
[09:04] <TJ-> Iriez: In the chroot "apt-get install linux"
[09:04] <popassy> Iriez: and to remove monitor?
[09:04] <bulletfreak> neyondbetondunbtutnutuntunt
[09:04] <Iriez> unable to locate package linux?
[09:04] <Iriez> airmon-ng stop wlan0 ?
[09:05] <TJ-> Iriez: Arggh, 12.04 isn't it!
[09:05] <Iriez> ..???
[09:05] <Iriez> we are in gentoo
[09:05] <Iriez> system rescue cd?
[09:05] <bulletfreak> its must be 100.4
[09:05] <bulletfreak> release cycles ftw
[09:05] <TJ-> Iriez: The system in the LVs we're rescuing, it's 12.04 isn't it?
[09:05] <Iriez> yes :-/
[09:06] <Iriez> 12.04.3 LTS
[09:06] <Iriez> did a alarm bell just ring in your head?
[09:07] <bulletfreak> 1.2.4.5.6.7.89.0.0 the newest ubuntnuuuu verison
[09:07] <TJ-> Iriez: try "apt-get install linux-image" ... but "linux" is a virtual package that depends upon "linux-image" so should have been found
[09:07] <bulletfreak> it adds smiley faces as all the icons
[09:07] <DJones> bulletfreak: Do you have an ubuntu support question? If so feel free to ask it
[09:07] <cfhowlett> !behelpful|bulletfreak,
[09:07] <Iriez> not linux-image either?
[09:08] <Iriez> same deal, packge not located.
[09:08] <Iriez> would this be easier inside ubuntu?
[09:08] <Iriez> i can boot my usb install
[09:08] <TJ-> Iriez: OK.. sounds like more than a simple boot issue here... lets check the package archives: "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[09:09] <TJ-> Iriez: No difference - as long as we're inside the chroot and there's network connectivity
[09:09] <Iriez> www.pastebin.com/VPMm2f7
[09:10] <TJ-> Iriez: "This paste has been removed!"
[09:10] <TJ-> Iriez: incomplete URL I think
[09:10] <Iriez> www.pastebin.com/jVPMm2f7
[09:11] <Iriez> yup missed tha tj
[09:11] <Iriez> that j*
[09:11] <FloodBot1> Iriez: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:11] <Iriez> u moms a flooder.
[09:11] <TJ-> Iriez: That looks OK... just to be sure do a "apt-get update" so the db is up to date
[09:12] <Iriez> wtf
[09:12] <Iriez> apt-get is broke
[09:12] <Iriez> its not resolving anything
[09:12] <Iriez> but my browser works fine
[09:12] <Iriez> uhm dns isnt resolving
[09:12] <Iriez> within terminal
[09:12] <TJ-> Iriez: name resolution inside the chroot? OK, you need to bind mount the rescue system /etc/resolv.conf
[09:13] <TJ-> Iriez: "exit" the chroot, check the rescue has a resolver "cat /etc/resolv.conf" that looks sane
[09:13] <Iriez> TJ: im so sorry but i gotta crash. We will have to continue this tomorrow. I've been down this rabbit hole before and it just keeps chasin ya
[09:13] <TJ-> Iriez: OK ... you're only one step away!
[09:13] <Iriez> okay
[09:13] <Iriez> i'll stay then lol
[09:14] <Iriez> yea
[09:14] <TJ-> Iriez: show me the sysrescue's "/etc/resolv.conf"
[09:14] <Iriez> nameserver is my router
[09:14] <TJ-> Iriez: If it looks sane, we mount it into the chroot
[09:14] <TJ-> OK
[09:14] <Iriez> 192.168.1.1
[09:14] <TJ-> Iriez: "mount --bind /etc/resolv.conf /media/linux/etc/resolv.conf"  (I recall correctly!) and then back into the chroot and try "apt-get update"
[09:15] <Iriez> says is a symbolic link to nowhere
[09:15] <TJ-> Iriez: let me check it here, I may have mis-remembered
[09:15] <tsimpson> not mount just cp or hard link
[09:16] <tsimpson> actually resolv.conf is a link these days, probably easier just to copy it
[09:16] <TJ-> Iriez: As tsimpson says, you can simply copy it in there for now. From outside the chroot "cp /etc/resolv.conf /media/linux/etc/resolv.conf"
[09:17] <TJ-> tsimpson: This is Precise so it might be a hard file
[09:17] <Iriez> not writing through dangling symlink
[09:17] <Iriez> .....thats a odd error
[09:17] <TJ-> Iriez: "rm -f /media/linux/etc/resolv.conf
[09:17] <TJ-> Iriez: "rm -f /media/linux/etc/resolv.conf"
[09:17] <Iriez> okay
[09:17] <Iriez> got it copied
[09:17] <tsimpson> if you're using chroots it's generally easier to use schroot (and it'll handle all that for you)
[09:18] <TJ-> Iriez: OK, give it a shot
[09:18] <Iriez> updating
[09:18] <FrankMartin> Paying 50$ for One, who enables my DisplayLink on Ubuntu
[09:19] <FrankMartin> Payment: PP, Wire, WU
[09:19] <cfhowlett> FrankMartin, cash in advance
[09:19] <FrankMartin> hahha gotta be kidding
[09:19] <cfhowlett> frank_, now that we've cleared that up ...
[09:19] <Iriez> okay TJ, its installing
[09:19] <Iriez> run grub install after?
[09:19] <TJ-> Iriez: Yay! After the kernel is installed, do "update-grub" to regen the grub.cfg
[09:19] <Iriez> ah k
[09:20] <Iriez> still only win 7 loader, but it shows 2 linux images now
[09:20] <Iriez> along with it
[09:21] <Iriez> boot/vmlinuz and /boot/initrd.img
[09:21] <TJ-> Iriez: Can you pastebin that grub.cfg?
[09:21] <TJ-> Iriez: It sounds like we *may* be done
[09:22] <Iriez> hrm, looks it
[09:22] <Iriez> there's some linux stuffs in there now :)
[09:22] <TJ-> Iriez: lemme see! I need some positive news :)
[09:22] <TJ-> Iriez: then I may go back to bed for a few hours :)
[09:22] <Iriez> www.pastebin.com/65F71xHC
[09:23] <TJ-> Iriez: Looks good: "Ubuntu, with Linux 3.2.0-57-generic-pae"
[09:23] <TJ-> Iriez: Give it a spin :)
[09:23]  * Iriez spins
[09:24] <Iriez> WWHOOHOOO
[09:24] <Iriez> we have launch!
[09:24] <TJ-> tsimpson: Isn't schroot Debian-only? The rescue image is Gentoo
[09:24] <TJ-> Iriez: It's working?
[09:24] <Iriez> funny how things end up being the simpler aspects
[09:24] <Iriez> like 'update kernels first'
[09:24] <Iriez> yes :)
[09:24] <TJ-> Iriez: Thank *huskies* for that!!!
[09:24] <Iriez> or wait
[09:24] <Iriez> Hrm
[09:24] <TJ-> Iriez: don't you dare!
[09:24] <Iriez> im getting a stall on boot though, thats strange
[09:25] <Iriez> (initramfs)
[09:25] <Iriez> stopped at a 'BusyBox' screen
[09:25] <TJ-> Iriez: No it isn't; I'd hazard a guess there's some problems with that install after what we've seen!
[09:25] <Iriez> well, I can always go and reinstall to that partition
[09:25] <Iriez> re-create the lvm and everything the same
[09:26] <Iriez> and choose to not f with the bootloader
[09:26] <Iriez> and i think it will be okay
[09:26] <Iriez> lol
[09:26]  * Iriez hangs head
[09:26] <TJ-> Iriez: That suggests maybe that cryptsetup's cryptab entry may not have been copied into the initrd (have you seen the LUKS pass-phrase prompt ?)
[09:26] <tsimpson> TJ-: it shouldn't matter what's inside the chroot
[09:26] <Iriez> No, no prompt
[09:26] <Iriez> and yea, it stalled right before the prompt, so your probably right
[09:27] <TJ-> Iriez: OK, so the probable issue now is to ensure the root FS has a correct /etc/crypttab... that's for after you've got some sleep though
[09:27] <Iriez> :)
[09:27] <Iriez> indeed
[09:27] <TJ-> tsimpson: Ubuntu is inside, Gentoo is outside :)
[09:27] <Iriez> TJ: I hope you got a bitcoin wallet, because im going to send you a donation for help.
[09:27] <Iriez> thanks for the several hours tonight, haha :)
[09:27] <TJ-> Iriez: Remember this bit: In the initrd, the crypttab entry is in, I seem to recall...
[09:28] <Iriez> im not remembering nuthins :P
[09:28] <Iriez> IRC however will.
[09:28] <TJ-> Iriez: .... /conf/  ... can't remember the precise name of the file or if in a sub-dir of that or not, but it isn't in /etc/ as you may expect
[09:28] <Iriez> yes, the plot thickens
[09:29] <Iriez> thanks so much
[09:29]  * Iriez ZzzzZZzz
[09:29] <TJ-> Iriez: however, when the kernel was installed "update-initramfs -uk all" should have sorted that out for you
[09:33] <nick787> hi guys, i'm trying to write an sh script to loop through a file and figure out the value of each byte, what tool could I use for that?
[09:37] <Jordan_U> nick787: What is your end goal?
[09:47] <Ivanov> hey guys, random dumb question but now that i got ubuntu installed, how do i upgrade from 12.x to the latest 13.x?
[09:48] <cfhowlett> Ivanov, either torrent and install the newest version or attempt the distro upgrade from the software center.
[09:48] <Ivanov> software center, thanks
[09:49] <Ivanov> how do i do that though?
[09:49] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | Ivanov
[09:49] <dns53> Ivanov   update-manager can do it, update-manager -d  for dev releases   or do-release-upgrade for console installs
[09:52] <chemist^> haha
[09:52] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[09:54] <chemist^> I have a problem... i have an USB stick from which i can read all files but cannot delete, move the files... and i can not format the drive ... is this a faulty usb stick?
[09:54] <iceroot> chemist^: write protected?
[09:55] <chemist^> iceroot i don't think so...it's not mine ...it belongs to a friend of mine
[09:55] <chemist^> and i don't think he made it read-only
[09:55] <chemist^> he told me he was using it normally, adding and deleting files
[09:55] <chemist^> and all of a sudden, cannot delete anymore
[09:58] <chemist^> iceroot how do i change it? .. right click - properties does not work for me... i change the permissions and still can not delete files
[09:58] <chemist^> i may have found the cause of the problem
[09:59] <chemist^> it's some corrupted files ... there's a folder there called PIONEER ... and some odd file types in it
[09:59] <chemist^> when i try to change the permissions for the stick... it gives an error stating that permissions could not be set for the mentioned files/folder
[10:01] <chemist^> how do i get rid of corrupted files on a usb stick in order to reformat it? please help anyone
[10:01] <chemist^> it says "cannot change permissions" ... why the f*** not???
[10:02] <iceroot> chemist^: maybe its a ntfs stick and you are not using ubuntu (or something else which is not using ntfs-3g) with normal ntfs you can not write on ntfs, only with ntfs-3g but when you are using ubuntu this should not be the problem
[10:02] <Rory> chemist^: You can format it regardless of what's currently there
[10:02] <SwedMike> chemist^: you don't need to remove files in order to format the stick. there might be a permission problem, but it hasn't got anything to do with deleting files.
[10:02] <cfhowlett> chemist^, try doing so with sudo to override permission blocks?
[10:02] <Rory> chemist^: What happens when you try to format it using the Disk utility included in Ubuntu?
[10:02] <chemist^> it gives me an odd error
[10:02] <Rory> chemist^: ...go on
[10:02] <chemist^> i tried the disk utility and the gpardet
[10:03] <chemist^> gparted
[10:03] <Rory> what error?
[10:03] <chemist^> wait
[10:03] <Xat`> when I'm installing samba4 package from Ubuntu LTS repositories, I get an error : http://pastebin.com/9U60Hj4R
[10:03] <Rory> Xat`: Can you paste the command you ran, along with the full output?
[10:03] <chemist^> and i do use ubuntu and have ntfs-3g installed correctly
[10:03] <Rory> Xat`: That looks like just part of a longer output
[10:03] <chemist^> the filesystem of the stick is fat32
[10:03] <Xat`> of course Rory
[10:04] <chemist^> and it doesn't work on windows too
[10:04] <Rory> chemist^: It's possible actually pysically broken? Also does it have a read-only switch on the side?
[10:04] <chemist^> yes that was my guess....that it's simply broken
[10:04] <gordonjcp> chemist^: USB stick?  What make?
[10:04] <chemist^> no it doesn't
[10:04] <chemist^> very simple usb stick
[10:05] <chemist^> think xtra 8gb
[10:05] <Rory> chemist^: you could try running "sudo badblocks -wsv /dev/<device>"
[10:05] <chemist^> ok wait
[10:05] <Rory> chemist^: that will wipe the drive, so get the device name right !!!
[10:06] <Rory> chemist^: if you're at all unsure, don't run it, instead run "sudo fdisk -l" and pastebin the output so I can see which device is which
[10:06] <gordonjcp> chemist^: I've sent back about six or seven Sandisk USB sticks, which failed by just reporting that they were read-only
[10:06] <gordonjcp> they are notorious for it
[10:06] <Rory> ditto
[10:08] <Xat`> Rory: here's the output : http://pastebin.com/2JN3s2Ze
[10:08] <un0000> gordonjcp, did the sticks say read only all the time or just at random? cause I have this problem as well and I never thought it could be a sandisk failure sign
[10:08] <Rory> Xat`: can you please run "sudo apt-get purge samba4" then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install samba4"
[10:09] <gordonjcp> un0000: all the time
[10:09] <gordonjcp> the moral of this story is, don't buy name-brand USB sticks
[10:09] <gordonjcp> insist on cheap non-name Chinese crap
[10:09] <Xat`> Rory: what's the problem ?
[10:10] <Xat`> installation during installation process ?
[10:10] <Xat`> problem *during installation process ?
[10:10] <Rory> Xat`: Not sure, but that's a good first step in case of a package that won't configure correctly
[10:12] <chemist^> Rory i am sure which drive is the usb :D don't worry
[10:12] <chemist^> it's sdc1
[10:12] <chemist^> i just need to unmount it first
[10:12] <chemist^> sorry, had to go downstairs for a minute
[10:12] <Xat`> Rory: now I'm getting this after I asked me for some basic samba4 configuration : http://pastebin.com/yVP9BVn1
[10:12] <Rory> chemist^: Here's information on the command you're going to run, including what each argument does https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/badblocks#Testing_for_Bad_Sectors
[10:12] <Rekog> Why browser no work in Ubuntu?
[10:13] <Rory> !details | Rekog
[10:13] <Jonathan___> hello, i just installed kubuntu 13 on my desktop, it show my wifi network under connections, but when i type in the password it won't connect, does anyone have an idea??? Please help!!!
[10:13] <Rekog> http://www.ubuntu.com/tour/en
[10:13] <Rory> Jonathan___: What wireless device do you have? Can you please put the output of the command "lspci -v" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com
[10:14] <Rory> Rekog: That's not actually ubuntu, that's just a mockup to show people what it looks like
[10:14] <chemist^> Jonathan___  maybe u have the MTU set wrong
[10:14] <Rory> chemist^: It's more likely just a broadcom device with terrible drivers
[10:14] <chemist^> or a hardware button that disables wireless perhaps? :D
[10:14] <Rekog> its no Web OS?
[10:14] <Rory> !ubuntu | Rekog
[10:14] <Rekog> :(
[10:15] <Jonathan___> so do i type what u have in quotes in a terminal
[10:15] <Rekog> many OS work in browser
[10:15] <chemist^> yeys
[10:15] <Rory> Jonathan___: Type the following line as it appears:
[10:15] <Xat`> Rory: i'll do what it says ;)
[10:15] <Rory> sudo apt-get -y install pastebinit && lspci -v | pastebinit
[10:15] <chemist^> wtf
[10:15] <Rory> Jonathan___: Then give me the URL
[10:15] <chemist^> why does the usb stick have a boot flag?
[10:15] <Rory> Rekog: Ubuntu is an operating system like Windows or OSX
[10:15] <chemist^> is that usual for all usb memory sticks?
[10:16] <Rory> chemist^: That's not uncommon
[10:16] <Beldar> chemist^, no swearing or acronyms of.
[10:16] <chemist^> or did my friend did something stupid without knowing it :D
[10:16] <Rekog> http://osjs.0o.no/
[10:16] <Rory> chemist^: if you ever booted from it
[10:16] <Rory> !ot | Rekog
[10:16] <chemist^> Beldar lol... ok sorry
[10:16] <chemist^> some ppl are really sensitive :P
[10:16] <chemist^> Rory not me...
[10:16] <Ben64> it is the channel rules, chemist^
[10:16] <Beldar> !language | chemist^ channel rules
[10:17] <chemist^> and my friends lacks knowledge to do so :)
[10:17] <chemist^> yes yes i already said sorry
[10:17] <chemist^> keep calm
[10:17] <Rekog> Ubuntu Web will work in browsr?
[10:17] <Beldar> chemist^, then made a snarky remark.
[10:17] <gordonjcp> I find the term "family-friendly" to be deeply offensive
[10:17] <cfhowlett> !attitude
[10:17] <willbradley> made a script for automatically pinging from the systray: https://github.com/zyphlar/pinger
[10:17] <chemist^> ...
[10:18] <mayo> join #android
[10:18] <chemist^> Rekog oh man...this will take forever
[10:18] <chemist^> 0.61%
[10:18] <chemist^> 3 min. elapsed
[10:18] <Beldar> gordonjcp, Of course you do all you know is arguing.
[10:18] <Jonathan___> rory it says ubable to locate pastebinint
[10:19] <Rekog> What with Ubuntu touch?
[10:19] <cfhowlett> !touch|Rekog,
[10:19] <Rory> Jonathan___: you ran sudo apt-get install pastebinit ?
[10:20] <Jonathan___> i cant get to the internet on it
[10:20] <Rory> chemist^: Run it overnight
[10:20] <Rory> Jonathan___: Not even with a cable?
[10:20] <chemist^> Rory ok will do that...any other faster method of searching for the problem?
[10:20] <gordonjcp> !attitude | Beldar
[10:20] <Jonathan___> no because the modem that we use is in my landlords appartment, so i dont have access to it
[10:21] <chemist^> hahaha :D
[10:21] <Jonathan___> i am communicating with u through my laptop
[10:21] <Rory> chemist^: You could just run "sudo badblocks -v /dev/sdc1"
[10:21] <Rekog> Ubuntu touch will work on the netbook?
[10:21] <Rory> Rekog: It depends which netbook, there are a lot of them
[10:22] <Beldar> hehe, I love the ignore
[10:22] <chemist^> Rory ok...but i do not have any issues with reading from it
[10:22] <Xat`> whe installating samba4 on Ubuntu LTS i get this problem : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba4/+bug/1091348
[10:22] <Rory> Jonathan___: OK so if you could run "lspci | grep Net" and copy out what it says yourself
[10:22] <Rekog> Acer
[10:22] <Rory> Rekog: Without further information, (acer make a lot of laptops) all I can say is, it will almost certainly "work"
[10:23] <Rory> Rekog: But you might find specific things like wifi have an additional step before they are working
[10:23] <Rekog> ADSL
[10:24] <Jonathan___> it says: 02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188EE Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[10:24] <Rory> Rekog: You could just download it and try it out on a LiveUSB to see
[10:24] <chemist^> if you have ADSL with ppp you will need to provide an username and password when connecting
[10:24] <Rory> Thanks Jonathan___
[10:24] <cfhowlett> Rekog, for details of #ubuntu-touch, go to #ubuntu-touch
[10:24] <Jonathan___> your welcom
[10:24] <Rekog> flash drive?
[10:24] <Jonathan___> thank you
[10:24] <chemist^> but wifi with dhcp should do the trick nowadays
[10:24] <Rekog> why livecd? i want normal install
[10:25] <Rory> Rekog: The Live USB includes the installer
[10:25] <Rory> Rekog: So once you have verified it works, you can do the installation
[10:25] <Rory> Jonathan___: Is this Ubuntu 12.04 or Ubuntu 13.10?
[10:25] <chemist^> Jonathan___  are you trying to connect a desktop computer or a laptop to the wifi network?
[10:25] <Rekog> then i need 2 USB?
[10:25] <Jonathan___> its a desktop and it is Kubuntu 13.10
[10:26] <Rory> Rekog: No, you need a single USB flash drive. You copy the Ubuntu image to this flash drive using a program that does that, and then you boot from it
[10:26] <chemist^> ok... you sure you typed in the correct password? :D
[10:26] <Rory> Rekog: Then, you run the installer and install Ubuntu to the hard drive in your netbook
[10:26] <Rory> Jonathan___: triple-check the password is correct
[10:26] <chemist^> Jonathan___ one of my friends have a .... "bad" software on his adsl modem/router
[10:27] <Rekog> then i need make resize partition
[10:27] <chemist^> and i had to open the admin page
[10:27] <chemist^> set another channel
[10:27] <Jonathan___> i did, and i opend the network connections on my laptop to check that they match and they do!
[10:27] <chemist^> and restart the router...then it worked ok
[10:27] <Rory> Rekog: Do you want to dual-boot Ubuntu with the current OS on your netbook? or do you want ubuntu to be the only OS?
[10:27] <chemist^> same problem...typed in the password and got the error: error while authenticating
[10:27] <Rory> Jonathan___: Can you go to Edit Connections, find the wireless network in question
[10:27] <chemist^> it's a badly-made firmware
[10:27] <Madkiss> 1
[10:27] <Rekog> double of cose
[10:27] <Jonathan___> yes
[10:27] <Madkiss> sorry.
[10:28] <Rory> Jonathan___: Make sure the key is correctly saved there, and tick the box saying "available to all users"
[10:29] <Jonathan___> i did and it is
[10:29] <chemist^> Jonathan___ if what Rory said will not work for you....trust me, call your landlord and tell him to reset the modem/router
[10:29] <Rory> Jonathan___: Could you test with another network? You might be able to make a wireless hotspot if you have an Android phone
[10:29] <chemist^> i had many issues with these new modem/routers ... they all suck :D
[10:29] <Rory> Jonathan___: That would tell us if it's only that wifi network which is causing a problem
[10:29] <chemist^> the software on them is usually faulty
[10:30] <Yawnie_> Hey everyone
[10:30] <Rory> Jonathan___: Could just wait til everyone's out, turn the router off and on again :)
[10:30] <chemist^> Yawnie_ hey
[10:30] <chemist^> Jonathan___  yes...try it with your phone... and another network too... maybe it's not your computer's fault
[10:31] <Jonathan___> i have an android but i cant use it as a hot spot, its not part of my service plan, but my laptop and my wifes laptop are running the same os, and they are able to connect
[10:31] <chemist^> lol
[10:31] <Yawnie_> New Ubuntu user here, hard drive died, replaced it, and the #s on my COA for Windows 7 wore off the sticker. Sure is something to get used to.
[10:31] <Rory> Jonathan___: It's not part of your service plan, so disable 3g before you do it. You can still make the hotspot even if you can't access the internet through it
[10:31] <chemist^> maybe your landlord has a limited number of dhcp clients
[10:31] <Rory> Jonathan___: You only need to see if you can connect to the wifi
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> Yawnie_  the question being?
[10:32] <Yawnie_> Anyone on here use haguichi?
[10:32] <Rory> Jonathan___: Settings -> Wireless and Networks -> Tethering & Portable Hotspot
[10:32] <chemist^> Jonathan___ isn't there any open wifi at your current location?
[10:33] <Jonathan___> nope
[10:33] <Jonathan___>  im checking now though to make sure
[10:33] <chemist^> :)
[10:34] <chemist^> Rory it finished
[10:34] <chemist^> the badblocks
[10:34] <Rory> chemist^: Was there any output?
[10:34] <chemist^> no errors
[10:35] <jefersen> why is youtube showing a black screen?
[10:35] <chemist^> Pass completed, 0 bad blocks found. (0/0/0 errors)
[10:35] <chemist^> jefersen it works well 4 me
[10:35] <Rory> chemist^: Can you try this: "sudo mkfs.ext2 -c -v /dev/sdc1"
[10:35] <Yawnie_> black screen how?
[10:35] <Rory> jefersen: What browser?
[10:36] <jefersen> mozilla
[10:36] <Jonathan___> ok so i have a modem thats turned on, but its not connected to any service, however my computer did connect to it!
[10:36] <jefersen> (rory) mozilla
[10:36] <Rory> jefersen: Do you have Flash installed? (sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras)
[10:36] <chemist^> Rory why do i keep using the read-only check
[10:36] <chemist^> when reading is fine
[10:36] <Rory> Jonathan___: OK so try turning your router off and on again
[10:36] <chemist^> i have problems with writing and deleting files
[10:37] <Rory> chemist^: The command I gave will create a new filesystem on the device, I'm mostly interested in any errors it produces
[10:37] <Rory> chemist^: Since you never gave me the "weird error" you get
[10:37] <chemist^> ok
[10:37] <chemist^> ;D
[10:37] <chemist^> yes well...sorry i had to go afk
[10:38] <chemist^> and when i came back, you had a new advice ready 4 me :D
[10:38] <mayo> join #android
[10:38] <Yawnie_> So, I guess that's a negative on if anyone here uses Hamachi/Haguichi. Cause I have a question or two about it
[10:38] <Jordan_U> mayo: /join #android
[10:38] <MonkeyDust> !ask | Yawnie_
[10:38] <cfhowlett> !anybody|Yawnie_,
[10:40] <chemist^> what's the command i forgot.... for pastebin .... was it "command | pastebin"
[10:40] <chemist^> or ubuntubin
[10:40] <chemist^> can't remember
[10:40] <dpaulus> o/
[10:40] <MonkeyDust> chemist^  pastebinit
[10:42] <chemist^> MonkeyDust hehe thanks
[10:43] <jefersen> (Rory) thanks rory, that seems to have solved it
[10:43] <jefersen> (Rory) btw, have you used citrix before?
[10:44] <Rory> jefersen: no
[10:44] <Rory> No problem, glad I could help :)
[10:44] <jefersen> (Rory) damn, so you probably wouldn't be able to help me with that right
[10:44] <Rory> jefersen: No idea, ask your question and find out :)
[10:45] <Yawnie_> Alright, so I just installed Hamachi with the Haguichi GUI interface, hamachi says I'm connected yet when I try to connect to a server my friend runs via Haguichi, no matter how I type it, it says "Network not found". On Windows this was not a problem. What am I doing wrong?
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> jefersen  type ro and then press tab, see what happens
[10:45] <chemist^> Rory should i paste the dmesg output when trying to format it with gparted and get that weird error?
[10:45] <jefersen> (MonkeyDust) where?
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> jefersen  here, in the irc channel
[10:46] <jefersen> Oh.
[10:46] <jefersen> lol, thanks
[10:46] <jefersen> thats much better
[10:46] <jefersen> MonkeyDust: sweet
[10:46] <chemist^> :D lol
[10:46] <chemist^> 2 bad irc is dying in my country
[10:47] <chemist^> i used to chat through irc 15 years ago :D
[10:47] <Yawnie_> I haven't used IRC since about 2008
[10:47] <Jonathan___> i have a wireless dsl modem, is there any way i can make it connect to the network wirelessly?
[10:47] <chemist^> yeah...i had a lot of timeout too :D
[10:47] <chemist^> Jonathan___ a modem connecting to a wifi network?
[10:47] <chemist^> why would you do that?
[10:48] <Jonathan___> its a wifi modem, if i can make it see the network, then i can share the same connection
[10:49] <chemist^> Jonathan___ how many wifi users are connected to your network?
[10:49] <Jonathan___> 3
[10:49] <jefersen> Rory: so i'm trying to download this - http://www.citrix.com/downloads/citrix-receiver/linux/receiver-for-linux-130.html
[10:50] <the-noob> hi, having problem with a startup script
[10:50] <Rory> jefersen: trying to? what's stopping you?
[10:50] <Rory> !details | the-noob
[10:50] <chemist^> Rory seems like no errors
[10:50] <chemist^> Jonathan___ that means...you and 2 other ppl?
[10:50] <Rory> chemist^: OK so now if you unplug and replug your drive, can you put files on it?
[10:50] <the-noob> using Ubuntu 12.04, I've create a file in /etc/init.d/ to start Gearman and don't know how to pass extra options to daemon
[10:51] <Rory> the-noob: I strongly recommend using Upstart
[10:51] <Jonathan___> yes
[10:51] <Rory> the-noob: Here's an example https://gist.github.com/c4milo/940909
[10:51] <the-noob> it works with DAEMON=/usr/local/sbin/gearmand but I need to pass an option like -l (log) /var/log/gearman.log
[10:51] <chemist^> Rory no...neither put files onr deleting any
[10:51] <Jonathan___> if i install window 8 back on there it connects with no problem, but i am tired of windows everything!
[10:51] <the-noob> hm, ok
[10:52] <Rory> the-noob: why not then DAEMON="/usr/local/sbin/gearmand -l /var/log/gearman.log"  or am I missing something?
[10:52] <the-noob> tried that .. and it says..
[10:52] <jefersen> Rory: i get an error in the ubuntu software center, saying wrong architecture 'armel'
[10:52] <Rory> jefersen: You downloaded the ARM build
[10:52] <the-noob>  /etc/init.d/gearmand: 3: /etc/init.d/gearmand: -l: not found /n start-stop-daemon: option '--exec' requires an argument
[10:53] <jefersen> Rory: what am i supposed to dl?
[10:53] <kbni> Hi. :)
[10:53] <Rory> jefersen: What's the output of "uname -i"
[10:53] <the-noob> but I'll try upstart
[10:53] <Rory> the-noob: Did you put it in quotes? DAEMON="...
[10:53] <chemist^> Jonathan___  .... so before when u had windows installed....you could all connect simultaneously ? all 3 of you?
[10:53] <the-noob> yes
[10:53] <Jonathan___> yes
[10:53] <jefersen> Rory: x86_64
[10:54] <Rory> jefersen: That's the version you need to download, not ARM
[10:54] <Rory> jefersen: Click on "for 64 bit systems", you're looking at "form ARM processors"
[10:54] <kbni> I was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction for what I want from iproute. I have two interfaces (eth0,wlan0) which are both behind a different gateway. I have two default routes set, but I can only ping -I whatever-interface-is-first-for-default-route
[10:54] <jefersen> Rory: oh man, i feel so stupid now
[10:55] <Rory> jefersen: Not as stupid as I did the time I needed to check the usage of "echo" and I ran "echo --help"
[10:55] <kbni> i.e. ping -I eth0 8.8.8.8 does not work, but ping -I wlan0 8.8.8.8 does. I want to be able to initiate connections from both. Can someone tell me what I am looking at doing here so I can look it up?
[10:55] <Yawnie_> I have a problem with Ubuntu 12.04, I can not increase or decrease the brightness of my screen. It won't work if I go into System Settings and manually change it there, nor will it work with the keyboard
[10:55] <jefersen> Rory: lol, whats that? seems beyond my knowledge
[10:56] <Rory> jefersen: usually running "some_command --help" will print a brief usage of the application. echo is a program which prints to the screen whatever you give it. so "echo --help" just print "--help" and I felt like a fool :P
[10:56] <jefersen> Rory: ohhh, lol!
[10:58] <jefersen> Rory: so i tried the 64-bit deb and i'm getting this error: Dependency is not satisfiable: ia32-libs
[10:58] <Jonathan___> does anyone have any ideas???
[10:59] <Rory> jefersen: Are you trying to install on 13.10?
[10:59] <jefersen> Rory: yes, is that a problem?
[10:59] <Rory> jefersen: It's probably expecting you to be using the LTS version, 12.04
[11:00] <jefersen> Rory: oh... so that means i can't install it?
[11:00] <Rory> jefersen: You can, but it'll be a little more complicated
[11:00] <jefersen> Rory: so on the website it says "Receiver for Linux 13.0"
[11:00] <kbni> nevermind
[11:00] <kbni> my iproute was sucky. and is sorted now. :)
[11:01] <Rory> jefersen: As in, the version of Citrix Reciever is version 13
[11:01] <chemist^> Jonathan___ there is probably a driver issue with your wifi card
[11:01] <chemist^> try using another one
[11:01] <jefersen> Rory:  oh..
[11:01] <chemist^> or download and install some fresh drivers perhaps?
[11:01] <jefersen> Rory: can you please help me install this? else i'll have to install windows...
[11:02] <Jonathan___> another card
[11:02] <Jonathan___>  or driver
[11:02] <the-noob> Rory: thanks, using upstart worked ok
[11:02] <Rory> the problem is jefersen that the .deb package has ia32-libs listed as a dependency, which hasn't been a thing for a while now
[11:02] <Jonathan___> but i can connect to my modem i just cant connect to the one thats provided for us by my landlord
[11:03] <Rory> jefersen: Hang on, did you read this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CitrixICAClientHowTo#Citrix_Receiver_13.0_on_Ubuntu_13.10_64-bit
[11:03] <jefersen> Rory: as in its been discontinued on the latest versions of ubunut for whatever reason
[11:03] <Rory> jefersen: I googled "Citrix Reciever 13.0 on Ubuntu 13.10" and that was the first result
[11:03] <Rory> jefersen: you're welcome
[11:03] <jefersen> Rory: ok, let me have a go :)
[11:04] <chemist^> Rory my friend said that he gave this usb stick to a friend who formatted his computer and put windows on it..... so he might have set permissions so that only he can change the content of the stick
[11:05] <chemist^> Rory is there any way to overwrite permission settings in ubuntu?
[11:05] <Rory> chemist^: you've made a new filesystem, whatever happened in Windows is gone
[11:05] <chemist^> but i still can not modify (rename) or delete files
[11:05] <jefersen> Rory: on a separate note, is chrome only executable from terminal
[11:05] <Rory> chemist^: What happens when you try to copy a file to the drive ?
[11:05] <chemist^> the paste button is greyed out
[11:06] <chemist^> and when i check the properties button
[11:07] <chemist^> it says owner write&read
[11:08] <chemist^> and the others "forbidden"
[11:11] <Rory> chemist^: OK can you go to Disk Utility, try to format it as FAT?
[11:15] <chemist^> Rory: W95 FAT32 (Bootable)
[11:15] <chemist^> partition type
[11:15] <chemist^> as it is now
[11:15] <bcc> don't suppose there is any staff about?!
[11:15] <Rory> chemist^: it shouldn't be that now, you formatted it as ext2?
[11:16] <DJones> bcc: Freenode staff or Ubuntu irc staff?
[11:16] <Beldar> bcc, freenode or ubuntu channel?
[11:16] <bcc> Ubuntu
[11:16] <Rory> chemist^: earlier you said you tried formatting it with that tool but got a "weird error", could you reproduce that?
[11:16] <Rory> bcc: Why, what do you need?
[11:16] <chemist^> now i unmounted it
[11:16] <bcc> RT ticket needs pushing forward
[11:16] <chemist^> and format it as FAT
[11:16] <chemist^> nothing happened
[11:16] <k1l> bcc: ask in #ubuntu-irc for RT issues, thanks
[11:16] <DJones> bcc: If its an IRC issue, can you join #ubuntu-irc and give details there
[11:17] <bcc> cheers
[11:17] <chemist^> Rory Error synchronizing after initial wipe: Timed out waiting for object (udisks-error-quark, 0)
[11:18] <tripp> can someone help me with a noob-ish problem? :)
[11:18] <Rory> !ask | tripp
[11:18] <Sebastien> tripp, yes, shoot.
[11:18] <troop> hi, can i install ubuntu offline, without updates?
[11:18] <Rory> chemist^: can you run: sudo mkdosfs /dev/sdc -s 128 -F 32 -I
[11:19] <Rory> troop: Yes
[11:19] <Sebastien> troop, yes.
[11:19] <Rory> chemist^: note that's /dev/sdc not /dev/sdc1
[11:19] <Rory> troop: The updates during installation are just to save time afterwards. It's not required; you can install with just the installation medium
[11:20] <subhojit777> is there any good desktop environment that will consume low resources and will also provide good interface like Unity. I have Ubuntu 13.04
[11:20] <Jordan_U> Rory: Why are you having chemist^ create a filesystem on a whole device rather than a partition?
[11:20] <troop> im asking because i dont have stable connection right now, im using quoted 3g connection :(
[11:20] <Rory> Jordan_U: I'm not.
[11:20] <Rory> Jordan_U: the -I flag will create a single partition
[11:20] <Rory> Jordan_U: man mkdosfs
[11:20] <cummseng> ive got ubuntu serve running with some directories exported with rw. I've mounted it on my client running ubuntu but the folders and files appear as if they are all owned by root:root when on the server it's owned by an account with the same username and id as the client...
[11:20] <Rory> !lubuntu | subhojit777
[11:21] <Jordan_U> Rory: That doesn't seem to be what the man page describes "-I" as doing, though it isn't the clearest language.
[11:22] <subhojit777> thanks.. I have Lubuntu but it does not provides good and easy UI like Unity. Or do I have to configure it?
[11:22] <Rory> subhojit777: you could try Xubuntu which uses XFCE
[11:22] <cummseng> subhojit777, cinnamon, xfce, lighter than unity but not lightest possible
[11:23] <tripp> case: i want to install unbutu on a laptop (i5 2.5, 8gb ram, 2gb video nvidia, 120 ssd, 750 gb sata) also want win7 on the rig.
[11:23] <Hassen> Elfy:O
[11:23] <jefersen> Rory: i've installed it but it seems like it is crashing for some reason
[11:23] <tripp>  a. should swap partition be 1-st on ssd a1. when running win7 can i use the partition for win swap?
[11:23] <subhojit777> Rory, cummseng thanks
[11:23] <Hassen> in the ubuntu live cd,there the mouse cursor is invisible :O
[11:23] <Hassen> what's that?
[11:23] <Beldar> subhojit777, lubuntu has a bit more config adjusting.
[11:24] <Jordan_U> Rory: To me it looks like the -I switch turns off mkdosfs's refusal to create a filesystem on a whole device, a reasonable refusal given that doing so is generally a bad idea. Why do you think that the -I option creates a partition table?
[11:24] <subhojit777> ok.. I guess I will try Lubuntu.. more configurable means more customizable
[11:25] <cummseng> subhojit777, you chould just apt-get install xfce, cinnamon etc before completly wiping your install
[11:25] <Rory> yes, they are synonyms
[11:25] <Rory> subhojit777: you can "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[11:26] <subhojit777> Rory, yes desktop environmentis what I am talking about. But I have identified another problem having too much de's is Ubuntu, when you select a DE in login screen you cannot scroll down and select the desired DE
[11:26] <subhojit777> I guess this is a bug, right?
[11:27] <Jordan_U> Rory: I just confirmed, -I does *not* create a partition table.
[11:28] <Jordan_U> chemist^: If you haven't already, do not run the mkdosfs command that Rory gave you. It's bad practice to make a filesystem on a whole device rather than a partition.
[11:29] <Rory> My mistake, I misread some instructions
[11:29] <Rory> chemist^: Jordan_U is correct, although it won't actually do any harm. Use the command as above, but without the -I, and use /dev/sdc1 instead of /dev/sdc
[11:32] <xtriz> when i am doing sudo update-grub my other operating system is getting detected but it's not showing up in grub
[11:32] <xtriz> how can i fix this ?
[11:33] <tripp> :|
[11:33] <prx> Hi, I just brought my laptop back from sleeping, and my secondary language disappeared, anyone aware of the issue and its solution?
[11:33] <wizard01> hi friends. where can i find a cracked copy of the linux
[11:33] <tripp> :))
[11:33] <Sebastien> wizard01 on www.ubuntu.com
[11:33] <prx> lol n1 wizard01
[11:34] <tripp> i'll try asking again
[11:34] <wizard01> plase help the blocked tpb
[11:35] <Beldar> wizard01, cracked, it's free
[11:35] <k1l> !warez | wizard01
[11:35] <motasem> hi
[11:35] <wizard01> hi motasem
[11:35] <Sebastien> !o4o
[11:35] <zacarias> Are there any performance issues if I install some kde apps (Dolphin, Gwenview)? Because of the fact that they imply the installation of a lot of kde dependencies
[11:35] <motasem> h r wizard
[11:35] <wizard01> how can we help you?
[11:35] <tripp> dual boot, unbutu and win7 - if i create swap partition on ssd (for unbutu) can i assign it as win swap when running win?
[11:36] <wizard01> yes tripp. no problem
[11:36] <k1l> tripp: no
[11:36] <tripp> can you link me please to some doc?:)
[11:38] <chemist^> Rory will do that now
[11:38] <prx> http://askubuntu.com/questions/170685/keyboard-layout-indicator-get-disappeared-after-second-login-login-after-logout
[11:38] <prx> who wants to answer this
[11:38] <prx> please.
[11:38] <Beldar> zacarias, dependencies should not cause problems the install of the apps will tell you if so
[11:39] <chemist^> Rory ok...it gave me no output
[11:39] <asad2005> I have enabled show desktop in unity tweak and now i can not remove it from panel is there away around this ?
[11:39] <chemist^> only the light on the usb stick blinked a couple of times
[11:40] <Beldar> zacarias, if you have a sub set of hardware now be careful.
[11:40] <chemist^> Jordan_U Rory what now?
[11:40] <wizard01> can i get siri if i install ubuntu
[11:40] <Rory> chemist^: Now try copying files to it
[11:40] <Rory> wizard01: No, siri is for iphones
[11:40] <wizard01> :(
[11:40] <chemist^> deleting files still doesn't work
[11:41] <chemist^> Rory nope...still greyed out
[11:41] <wizard01> Hi Guest74433 how can we help you?
[11:41] <chemist^> i tried to open the folder with nautilus as root
[11:41] <chemist^> and in the terminal i got a reply when i tried to delete a file
[11:41] <chemist^> (permission denied)
[11:42] <Jordan_U> chemist^: How did you mount the partition?
[11:42] <wizard01> you need to have permission to delete the file
[11:42] <chemist^> Jordan_U it automatically mounted when i clicked on it
[11:42] <chemist^> wizard01 yes...how? :D
[11:42] <chemist^> Jordan_U that is not the issue, cause in windows it does the same
[11:42] <chemist^> reading is flawless
[11:42] <chemist^> quick
[11:43] <chemist^> but cannot write to the disk
[11:43] <chemist^> and cannot rename or delete files
[11:43] <chemist^> cannot change permissions
[11:44] <Jordan_U> chemist^: Please pastebin the output of "dmesg".
[11:44] <chemist^> "Could not change permissions for .... "
[11:44] <chemist^> Jordan_U when i do what?
[11:45] <Jordan_U> chemist^: Open a terminal, run "dmesg", and copy and paste the output it produces to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com .
[11:45] <chemist^> yes
[11:46] <chemist^> i know how to do that :D i thought it must be run before issuing the command with errors
[11:46] <chemist^> dmesg | pastebinit
[11:46] <chemist^> Jordan_U http://paste.ubuntu.com/6583028/
[11:49] <Jordan_U> chemist^: Well, that certainly looks like a hardware issue. If there isn't a write protect switch of some kind on the drive I think you'll just have to buy another one, though it would be interesting to see if it reports any S.M.A.R.T. status.
[11:50] <knifebunny> test it with smartctl maybe
[11:53] <iszak_> I am using this example preseed https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/example-preseed.txt and I set d-i pkgsel/upgrade select none to full-upgrade but it doesn't do anything, what should it do?
[11:53] <chemist^> i don't have any experience with smartctl
[11:53] <jefersen> I'm trying to copy a .cer file to /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla
[11:53] <chemist^> Jordan_U my guess was that it was a hardware issue since the beginning
[11:54] <chemist^> any other thing i could try to be certain?
[11:55] <jefersen> I'm trying to copy a certificate file .cer to /usr/share/ca-certificates/mozilla and im getting this problem - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6583053/
[11:55] <jefersen> Permission denied
[11:55] <chemist^> use the sudo command
[11:55] <chemist^> for copying the file
[11:55] <chemist^> sudo cp filename /destination/filename
[11:55] <knifebunny> chemist^: try sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX
[11:55] <chemist^> instead of X i use c1 right? :D
[11:56] <chemist^> or just c
[11:56] <iszak_> or sudo !! if it was your last command
[11:56] <knifebunny> chemist^: whichever is the disk in question, i havent followed the entire convo
[11:56] <chemist^> dev/sdc1
[11:56] <knifebunny> chemist^: but it should give you a print out of basic smart data of the drive, if you get an output then smartmontools is installed, if not you should install it and it can report about your drive, do short and long tests, etc
[11:56] <knifebunny> chemist^: just /dev/sdc as its the drive itself not the partition we are testing
[11:57] <chemist^> ok
[11:57] <chemist^> command not found :D
[11:57] <knifebunny> chemist^: try apt-get install smartmontools
[11:57] <chemist^> have to install it i guess?
[11:57] <chemist^> ok done
[11:57] <chemist^> i'll retry noow
[11:58] <chemist^> /dev/sdc: Unknown USB bridge [0x1307:0x0165 (0x100)]
[11:58] <chemist^> Smartctl: please specify device type with the -d option.
[11:59] <knifebunny> chemist^: is it a USB device ?
[11:59] <chemist^> yes
[11:59] <chemist^> an USB memory stick 8bg
[11:59] <chemist^> gb*
[11:59] <chemist^> should i unmount it first?
[11:59] <njsg> does ubuntu have any tool to unpack or read squashfs, version 2 filesystems?
[12:00] <shafox> i am on ubuntu 12.04, it freezes a lot while google chrome is open for max 10 mins. i have to hard restart every time. any solutions for this type of irritating issue ??
[12:00] <chemist^> shafox use firefox... chrome sux :D
[12:01] <chemist^> knifebunny any ideas?
[12:01] <knifebunny> chemist^: usb devices might be more difficult to test with smartctl, if its a memory stick it probably doesnt contain any smart data unlike a physical hard drive does so smartctl probably cant help you
[12:01] <chemist^> lol
[12:01] <chemist^> ok ;D
[12:01] <knifebunny> shafox: is it only when you leave google chrome open
[12:01] <chemist^> thanks anyway
[12:02] <wizard01> sorry we couln't help chemist
[12:02] <shafox> chemist^, well i am using firefox but chrome has web inspector that i need to use. firefox sucks in this regard.
[12:03] <Jordan_U> njsg: You should be able to just "sudo mount -o loop /path/to/squashfs.image /mountpoint/"
[12:03] <shafox> knifebunny, yes i guess so, i have not run google chrome for quite some time, and its working great. but as soon as i open chrome it freezes
[12:03] <shafox> :(
[12:03] <knifebunny> chemist^: i always put smartmontools on all of my systems because it can pre-emptively notify you if a drive is going bad, you need to edit config to get it to send to your preferred email though as it just delivers to "root" by default
[12:03] <chemist^> firefox has that too...
[12:03] <njsg> Jordan_U: no, that won't work
[12:03] <njsg> Jordan_U: that is squashfs version 4
[12:03] <chemist^> knifebunny it's not mine
[12:03] <Jordan_U> njsg: And it's not backwards compatible?
[12:03] <knifebunny> shafox: is using 'chromium' any different? maybe its a plugin
[12:03] <chemist^> it's owned by a friend of mine....using windows
[12:03] <shafox> chemist^, firefox's firebug is nt that great wrt to chrome's web inspector IMHO
[12:04] <chemist^> shafox ok if you say so
[12:04] <chemist^> i don't know what IMHO is :D
[12:04] <Yawnie_> Huh, Smartmontools, huh, wished I knew about that a couple weeks ago
[12:04] <shafox> knifebunny, chrome not chromium, removed every plugins still that issue arises
[12:04] <njsg> Jordan_U: no, it's not
[12:04] <Jordan_U> njsg: Where did you get a squashfs2 image from?
[12:04] <chemist^> !imho
[12:04] <njsg> Jordan_U: from a squashfs2 filesystem
[12:04] <knifebunny> will we get free beer for the help when you finally fix it, chemist^ ? haha
[12:04] <chemist^> knifebunny haha 6 pack
[12:04] <chemist^> :D
[12:04] <knifebunny> shafox: is it just the application that freezes or the entire computer?
[12:04] <shafox> IMHO: In My Honest Opinion
[12:05] <chemist^> tnx :)
[12:05] <shafox> knifebunny, the entire system.
[12:05] <njsg> shafox: actually, it is "in my humble opinion"
[12:05] <Jordan_U> njsg: What created the squashfs2 filesystem?
[12:05] <chemist^> knifebunny although...i doubt i will get the thing working again
[12:05] <shafox> njsg, thanks for correcting.
[12:05] <njsg> Jordan_U: a GNU/linux system
[12:05] <Jordan_U> njsg: What GNU/linux system?
[12:05] <njsg> Jordan_U: somehow with an older version of squashfs in the kernel, it seems
[12:05] <njsg> Jordan_U: no idea of what to call it
[12:06] <wizard01> shafox you may need a new computer
[12:06] <shafox> knifebunny, any ideas ??
[12:06] <shafox> wizard01, it was working great, until i restored it.
[12:07] <wizard01> what version did you restore?
[12:07] <knifebunny> shafox: maybe its something executing in a particular tab, does it still happen if you open it up and leave only a blank tab and nothing else ?
[12:07] <shafox> 12.04
[12:07] <wizard01> is that the same version as before?
[12:07] <knifebunny> brb
[12:07] <jefersen> anyone knows how to copy + paste a file from terminal
[12:08] <wizard01> cp
[12:08] <shafox> knifebunny, it happens when i try to open a new blank tab and a new link tab
[12:08] <shafox> wizard01, yes same version
[12:08] <wizard01> is this a fresh install or a restore from a previous backup?
[12:08] <rosco_y> How do I enable my wife to access mysql on my ubuntu machine, from her windows 8 machine?
[12:10] <shafox> wizard01, restore from a previous back up. i have dell laptop which was preinstalled with ubuntu , so i reinstalled it from the restore dvd .
[12:11] <wizard01> maybe some drivers are missing from the restore disk. you will have to telephone dell
[12:12] <shafox> like what driver ?? any specific ones /?
[12:12] <Jordan_U> njsg: Have you tried "unsquashfs" yet?
[12:12] <asad2005> How can i change the date and day format in status to be english
[12:12] <wizard01> I don't know what hardware you have
[12:12] <dhq> hey , just a lil help how to i connect using a ".ovpn" file config with open vpn in commang line
[12:13] <wizard01> shafox: best thing is to call dell
[12:13] <wizard01> they will send an engineer over to fix it for you.
[12:13] <shafox> wizard01, ok.
[12:13] <shafox> thanks anyway :)
[12:14] <CosmicB> dhq does that .ovpn have the certificates bundled with it ?
[12:14] <wizard01> my pleasure. on a scale of 1 to 10 could you please say how satisfied with ubuntu support you are. ta.
[12:14] <shafox> i am from India, i dont think they will do that here.
[12:14] <njsg> Jordan_U: yes, and that fails with errors
[12:14] <Jordan_U> njsg: Could you pastebin the error messages?
[12:14] <dhq> CosmicB: yes
[12:14] <njsg> Jordan_U: it is not clear to me whether ubuntu's version of unsquashfs is the complete thing or if it has been stripped down
[12:14] <njsg> Jordan_U: "Bus error"
[12:15] <dhq> shafox: i believe they have this service in india, i used it once
[12:15] <raub> I was upgrading a machine (12.04) and during logrotate upgrade I got
[12:15] <raub> trying to overwrite `/etc/cron.daily/logrotate', which is the diverted version of `/etc/cron.disabled/logrotate'
[12:15] <shafox> dhq, ok
[12:16] <Jordan_U> njsg: Is there any other output from unsquashfs?
[12:16] <asad2005> How do i change date format without affecting timezone?
[12:16] <CosmicB> dhq there is a way  to convert that file or something, I did something similar a couple weeks ago, can't find the link right now. But see http://askubuntu.com/questions/187511/how-can-i-use-a-ovpn-file-with-network-manager  + google 'how to conecrt .ovpn' or something, it's not that difficult
[12:16] <CosmicB> to find help
[12:16] <raub> How to fix that?
[12:17] <wizard01> raub: don't worry about it. it's a minor issue
[12:17] <dhq> CosmicB: in google i only find the entire syntax help not how to use .ovpn
[12:17] <njsg> Jordan_U: compiling it myself still results in the same thing http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=iBRWkLaa
[12:17] <njsg> but I did see something in the code that made be a bit wary...
[12:18] <CosmicB> dhq check the link I posted,
[12:18] <CosmicB> dhq look like it should support  sudo openvpn --config ~jrg/Documents/vpn-config.ovpn
[12:18] <dhq> yeah just having a look at that now :)
[12:18] <dhq> thanks
[12:18] <njsg> I seriously hope unsquashfs checks for the right endianness...
[12:18] <CosmicB> :)
[12:18] <dhq> will try it on my ddwrt when i get home
[12:19] <raub> wizard01: I dunno. I did a remove --purge and then a reinstall and got cat: /etc/cron.daily/logrotate: No such file or directory
[12:20] <raub> i.e. file went away
[12:20] <wizard01> it's a script that runs daily to rotate your logs. you may need to reinstall it
[12:21] <Jordan_U> njsg: I doubt that it will work since grub's module is named "squashfs4.mod", but I'm curious if "grub-mount /full/path/to/squashfs.img /mountpoint/" will work (I expect the grub folks to be cognisant of endianness issues).
[12:21] <raub> wizard01: I meant when i reinstalled it I got that original error and the file is gone
[12:23] <wizard01> raub: ah. did you try "apt-get -f"?
[12:23] <wizard01> raub: if that doesn't work, just don't worry about it.
[12:23] <raub> I did that that
[12:23] <wizard01> It's not a big issue anyway, just don't worry about it.
[12:23] <raub> wizard01: I actually do worry alot. The cron.d/logrotate file is not there
[12:24] <raub> I do need logrotate; I had it configured to rotate daily in a specific way
[12:24] <wizard01> just type "touch /etc/cron.daily/logroate" then "apt-get -f" and if that doesn't work just don't worry about it.
[12:24] <Jordan_U> njsg: I'm curious how this turns out. Would you mind keeping me updated?
[12:25] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> hi guys
[12:25] <wizard01> hi JoBArTe_Skuld2
[12:25] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> how to I enable VGA1 on my ubuntu?
[12:25] <rosco_y> How do I enable my wife to access mysql on my ubuntu machine, from her windows 8 machine?
[12:25] <njsg> Jordan_U: If i remember, sure, although I've given up on lurking in user support channels in freenode
[12:25] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> on liveCD, xrand shows displayport and VGA1 normally
[12:25] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> but in my ubuntu, VGA1 is missing
[12:25] <njsg> Jordan_U: did you install the correct video drivers?
[12:26] <wizard01> rosco_y just don't worry about it, your wife doesn't need acess to mysql
[12:26] <DJones> !behelpful | wizard01
[12:26] <rosco_y> wizard01: :PPP :)
[12:27] <wizard01> ubottu: I only give good advice
[12:27] <wizard01> ubottu: i didn't
[12:27] <TitoN> Hi i just bought a dell r320 server and i wanted to run a raid 1 on it so i created 1 virtual disk from the 2 disks and set it to raid 1....i install ubuntu server 12.04 lts but after completed installation to the virtualdisk it just gets stuck at loading boot device in bios
[12:28] <raub> wizard01: /usersr/sbin/logrotate is not there. Can I worry now?
[12:28] <TitoN> Should i run tje disks in achi or raid?
[12:28] <wizard01> raub: Why do you want to rotate logs anyway?
[12:28] <raub> ls: cannot access /usr/sbin/logrotate: No such file or directory
[12:29] <wizard01> raub: it causes more wear and tear on your hard disk
[12:29] <ikonia> wizard01: please stop with bad advice
[12:29] <ikonia> raub: you do not have log rotate installed
[12:29] <ikonia> raub: or you are looking in the wrong location
[12:29] <rosco_y> I should simplify--I can do the connect to mysql, what I really need is to network our machines
[12:29] <raub> ikonia: when I tried to upgrade, I got trying to overwrite `/etc/cron.daily/logrotate', which is the diverted version of `/etc/cron.disabled/logrotate'
[12:29] <rosco_y> how do I network a windows 8 machine and a ubuntu machine (both desktops)
[12:30] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> if i reinstall a xorg-server from a liveCD is a good idea?
[12:30] <wizard01> rosco_y are the plugged in together? do you know the ip addresses?
[12:30] <ikonia> raub: ok, why is that a problem ?
[12:30] <wizard01> is your firewall enabled?
[12:30] <raub> ikonia: so I tried to reinstall it.
[12:30] <raub> ikonia: I used remove --purge and then reinstalled but not it is not there anymore
[12:30] <wizard01> is mysql listening for connections from remote machines?
[12:30] <rosco_y> wizard01: Thank you I know the addresses, and my wife if connected via wireless
[12:30] <TitoN> Anyone?
[12:31] <rosco_y> I just don't even know where to start
[12:31] <ikonia> raub: actually look if the binary is there
[12:31] <raub> ikonia: ls: cannot access /usr/sbin/logrotate: No such file or directory
[12:31] <rosco_y> I've always hated networking problems until now, when it might be really helpful :(
[12:31] <wizard01> rosco_y: did you read the manual?
[12:31] <rosco_y> wizard01: no.  can you recommend one?
[12:32] <raub> ikonia: and that is after I did apt-get -f install logrotate
[12:32] <wizard01> rosco_y: no sorry
[12:32] <rosco_y> wizard01: me too :(
[12:32] <ikonia> raub: is that where the binary is meant to be ?
[12:32] <wizard01> rosco_y: just don't worry about it. Why do you want your wife to access all your data?
[12:32] <raub> according to the other machines and the package file list, yest
[12:33] <ikonia> raub: ok, so check the status of that package in the package manager
[12:33] <rosco_y> wizard01: actually, I want to write software against the db from my wife's machine--it was just an easy way to pose the question
[12:33] <jonjo> hello, can anyone help me with this? driver Linux console keyboard wanted to post scancode 90 outside of [0, 0]! ?? Think I need some form of keybindings for Xfbdev
[12:33] <jonjo> I have a custom keypad and have added the keybindings to my kernel config, the keys work with evtest
[12:33] <jonjo> http://bpaste.net/show/WZITgRNQ4yPqMYOdk4nM/
[12:33] <wizard01> rosco_y: just install it on your wifes machine
[12:33] <wizard01> job done.
[12:34] <rosco_y> wizard01: I could do that, but that kind of defeats the purpose of having a database
[12:34] <raub> ikonia: dpkg -l | grep logrotate returns nothing
[12:34] <ikonia> rosco_y: what's actually stopping you - what's the problem you are facing,
[12:34] <ikonia> rosco_y: then it's not installed
[12:34] <ikonia> rosco_y: sorry that was for rosco_y u
[12:34] <ikonia> raub
[12:34] <ikonia> raub: then it's not installed
[12:35] <rosco_y> ikonia: ty, my problem is that I don't know where to begin networking the machines -- apology accepted :))
[12:35] <ikonia> rosco_y: are they currently networked out side of mysql, yes/no
[12:35] <raub> ikonia: apt-get -f install logrotate is not installing it
[12:35] <imghost> !logrotate
[12:35] <ikonia> raub: why are you using -f
[12:36] <rosco_y> ikonia: no, if they were networked, I believe my problems would be solved
[12:36] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> how to I enable VGA1 on my ubuntu? on liveCD, xrand shows displayports and VGA1 normally, but in my ubuntu, show only displayports, but lshw show all VGA cards
[12:36] <rosco_y> I just want a nudge in the correct direction
[12:36] <ikonia> rosco_y: ok, so you'll need to either directly connect them together via a cat5 cable with rj45 connection, or via a switch/router/hub
[12:36] <raub> ikonia: just in case there is a file it is not able to overwrite or something. But, here is without -f : http://pastie.org/private/nghgmb8xiclun1rydbosg
[12:37] <rosco_y> ikonia: just connecting via wireless from windows 8 machine to router that I'm using on ubuntu side doesn't work?
[12:37] <rosco_y> I do have a router, but I've never used it
[12:37] <ikonia> raub: I have no browser access at the moment so can't read that, but I'm guessing you have an error
[12:37] <ikonia> rosco_y: ok, so connect the other machine to the same router
[12:37] <raub> It is just the original error thingie
[12:37] <ikonia> rosco_y: bang - you're done
[12:37] <ikonia> raub: so fix the error, -f is not a magic "fix all"
[12:37] <raub> I did not want to fill the channel with the output of running apt-get install logrotate
[12:38] <raub> ikonia: how to fix the error then
[12:38] <rosco_y> ikonia: I don't have the router connected, would I have to run a ethernet cable from her machine to the router?
[12:38] <raub> THe error is dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/logrotate_3.7.8-6ubuntu5_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[12:38] <raub>  trying to overwrite `/etc/cron.daily/logrotate', which is the diverted version of `/etc/cron.disabled/logrotate'
[12:38] <ikonia> rosco_y: just connect the second machien to the router, via cable or wifi, whatever you want
[12:38] <ikonia> rosco_y: "directed" ?
[12:38] <raub> ikonia: and that is enough for it not to install logortate
[12:38] <ikonia> rosco_y: sorry not you
[12:38] <imghost> raub, your machine is 64bit?
[12:39] <ikonia> raub: what do you mean the "diverted" ?
[12:39] <raub> imghost: yep
[12:39] <raub> ikonia: that is what the error message says, not me
[12:39] <ikonia> raub: is the file /etc/cron.daily/logrotate there ?
[12:39] <Jordan_U> njsg: Have you tried grub-mount yet?
[12:39] <rosco_y> ikonia: I'm confused--how would I connect Windows 8 to router via wifi?
[12:39] <ikonia> rosco_y: you said you are already connected to it
[12:40] <njsg> Jordan_U: looking at strace, the error seems to be in a memory area allocated by unsquashfs, not in the file. as in, it does not seem to be an error a bad file could cause
[12:40] <njsg> unless they are trusting random values from the file
[12:40] <rosco_y> ikonia: I understand, I meant to say "I have a router", not that "I am using a router"
[12:40] <raub> ikonia: nope because I did a purge first
[12:40] <ikonia> rosco_y: how are you currently connected to the internet
[12:41] <ikonia> raub: make that file then - or reboot to make sure your package clean up is finished
[12:41] <rosco_y> ikonia: my bad, I was thinking of a switch I think--yes, I am using a router
[12:41] <raub> ikonia: I tried adding manually the file but that did not work. SO I am rebooting
[12:42] <rosco_y> it's a linksys 2.4 type thingie
[12:42] <ikonia> rosco_y: ok, so connect the other machine to it then
[12:42] <ikonia> rosco_y: and you're done
[12:42] <Jordan_U> njsg: Have you tried grub-mount yet?
[12:42] <njsg> Jordan_U: yes, fails, "unknown filesystem"
[12:43] <rosco_y> it is connected, in that it can get on the internet using it, should I now be able to see her machine from ubuntu?
[12:43] <ikonia> rosco_y: correct
[12:43] <rosco_y> (and visa-versa)
[12:44] <rosco_y> cool--but we have to join a common network, is that correct?
[12:44] <ikonia> rosco_y: you are on a common network if you both connect to the same router
[12:45] <rosco_y> ikonia: this is comming across as being way too easy--how do I "see" her computer from my ubuntu?
[12:45] <njsg> if you connect to the internet, you end up being in a common network either way
[12:45] <njsg> unless your ISP does some weird NAT thing
[12:45] <ikonia> rosco_y: what ever application you want,
[12:46] <rosco_y> wow, I'm way out in a haze, and I can't find the shore here
[12:46] <rosco_y> is there a terminal command that would list the windows pc?
[12:46] <ikonia> rosco_y: don't worry about that - just "use" the machine
[12:47] <ikonia> rosco_y: connect how you want to connect, using the applications you want,
[12:47] <rosco_y> ikonia: thank you, I'll work with that for a while ::))
[12:49] <raffy> hi flood
[12:49] <raffy> help me?
[12:49] <ikonia> raffy: ask an ubuntu question ?
[12:49] <rosco_y> ikonia: I thought of telnet, but that would only open up access to the db on ubuntu inside of the command shell, correct?
[12:50] <rosco_y> oh, I think the lights are turning on now
[12:50] <raffy> help me with peppermint
[12:50] <raffy> ...
[12:50] <rosco_y> I'll just use my ubuntu ip address within my code, when connect to mysql
[12:50] <ikonia> raffy: peppermint is not ubuntu
[12:50] <rosco_y> ikonia: thank you very much--this does give me something to work with :)
[12:50] <k1l> raffy: please see the peppermint support. this is plain ubuntu support
[12:51] <ikonia> rosco_y: no problem
[12:54] <raffy> help me with peppermint?
[12:54] <ikonia> raffy: "no" - this channel is for ubuntu support ONLY
[12:54] <ikonia> raffy: please don't ask again
[12:55] <k1l> raffy: http://peppermintos.net/  that is the peppermint support. ask there
[12:55] <raffy> peppermint comes from ubuntu, my problem is that it does not turn off the computer ....
[12:55] <jirido> Hi i read this : Growl For Linux supports some display plugins. For linux, you can use NotifyOSD as display to notify the Growl. I understand it as notify-osd can be made to call growl whom then display the popup? or is it the other way
[12:56] <DJones> raffy: This channel only deals with the official releases of Ubuntu, for 3rd party variants, you'll need to contact their own support networks
[12:58] <anasx> Hi All!
[12:58] <lyh> hi
[12:58] <oswin> Hi all, can someone tell me how I can disable tracker-store on a specific disk ?
[12:59] <raffy> I am a programmer with the ability to hackers, how do you solve the problem with ubuntu
[12:59] <raffy> ?
[12:59] <raub> ikonia: I rebooted and still have the same issue
[13:00] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> how to I enable VGA1 on my ubuntu? on liveCD, xrand shows displayports and VGA1 normally, but in my ubuntu, show only displayports, but lshw show all VGA cards
[13:01] <k1l> JoBArTe_Skuld2: which video card? (maybe a hybrid card?)
[13:01] <ikonia> raub: you need to fix the package manager then
[13:01] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> k1l, I have onboard and offboard VGA
[13:02] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> this is runs normally a days ago
[13:02] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> but in one update, the VGA1 not found
[13:02] <raub> ikonia: how to do so?
[13:02] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> lshw shows normally both cards
[13:02] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> but xrandr shows only 2 display ports from offboard VGA
[13:02] <k1l> JoBArTe_Skuld2: which cards? it is a lot easier to help if you are specific
[13:03] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> k1l, I will get here
[13:03] <ikonia> raub: your going to have to work terror as unil I get web access it's going ot be hard for us to share data
[13:03] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> k1l, https://gist.github.com/joubertredrat/7986653
[13:04] <raub> ikonia: I understand. Imight have to goback to the 10.04 snapshot then
[13:04] <ikonia> raub: that seems huge overkill
[13:05] <k1l> JoBArTe_Skuld2: i am not familiar with amd video cards. but install the fglrx and that should work with both cards. then use the catalyst control thing to use the vga
[13:06] <raub> ikonia: you do not know where I work
[13:06] <ikonia> raub: don't see how that matters
[13:06] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> k1l, but fglrx can control both VGAs?
[13:06] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> I was mind if i reinstall xorg by liveCD solves the problem :(
[13:07] <k1l> JoBArTe_Skuld2: most times the vga/hdmi are cabled to the dedicated video card
[13:07] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:08] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> k1l, I will try here
[13:13] <zacarias> What do I need to do so that dolphin (and other kde apps) use the system-wide icons, instead of oxygen?
[13:13] <killer> hey , where can i ask ubuntu dev questions
[13:13] <oswin> btw, I was wondering about what is done in Ubuntu to improve user experience with trackpads on notebooks : is there something planned or will this be improved with Mir ?
[13:13] <Rory> oswin: what do you mean?
[13:14] <Rory> oswin: you mean hardware support?
[13:16] <oswin> Rory, trackpad configuration is actually a real pain, no other choice than configuring manually xinput, no way to have a smooth scrolling, no possible differentiation of mouse or trackpad, no touchscreen support (I mean software, like using a touchscreen should make scroll a webpage like a tablet instead of selecting text like a mouse)
[13:16] <oswin> Rory, for me it's a very big default for ubuntu usage on laptops
[13:17] <Rory> oswin: Hmm, I've not found that. There's a GUI for configuration in the system settings
[13:17] <Rory> oswin: to configure sensitivity, change scrolling type etc
[13:17] <Rory> There's work being done on touch though
[13:18] <Rory> The trackpad on my Thinkpad works as expected, including two-finger scrolling
[13:18] <oswin> Rory, yes, but with very limited possibilities : there not even a way to specify a scrolling by pixel size (instead of number of lines)
[13:18] <Rory> That would be an application setting though
[13:18] <Rory> firefox etc
[13:19] <oswin> Rory, touchscreen works very good out of box, but only the bottom layer (driver)
[13:22] <oswin> Rory, I would love a kind of "input manager" UI taht allows to make a lot of things, like choosing which device you want as input (trackpad, trackpoint, mouse, touchscreen, webcam) with highly customisable parameters for each and global behaviour (like opening the launcher one some specific gestures)
[13:22] <Rory> oswin: Do you know Python?
[13:22] <TitoN> Trying to install ubuntu server on a dell poweredge r320. It installs fine but it hangs before ubuntu get a chance to load
[13:22] <Rory> TitoN: Can you select a recovery option from the Grub boot menu?
[13:22] <oswin> Rory, mmmh just a bit, why ?
[13:22] <TitoN> I got discs in achi running raid1.....should i set discs to raid instead of achi?
[13:23] <TitoN> I dont even see grub
[13:23] <TitoN> It sits on looking for units to load
[13:23] <Rory> TitoN: That's 100% a hardware thing, yes if you're using RAID you need to configure your raid card correctly and make sure the boot device is correct
[13:23] <killer> hey , where can i ask ubuntu dev questions
[13:24] <TitoN> I created a virtual disc but i guess that was wrong
[13:24] <TitoN> H310
[13:24] <Rory> TitoN: You might get more specific answers in #ubuntu-server
[13:24] <TitoN> thank you
[13:25] <Rory> killer: #ubuntu-app-devel
[13:26] <JoBArTe_Skuld2> k1l, don't work :(
[13:32] <cariveri> hi:) How to burn a audio disk plus data files?
[13:35] <diverdude> Hey there, does any of you guys run ubuntu on a lenovo X1 carbon?
[13:36] <cariveri> only lenovo E135
[13:36] <Rory> cariveri: I believe it has to be one or the other
[13:36] <Rory> !anyone | diverdude
[13:37] <diverdude> does anybody like to use lenovo X1 carbon with linux?
[13:37] <Rory> diverdude: I doubt that's your question
[13:38] <Rory> diverdude: Why do you want to know? What actual support question do you have?
[13:38] <Lunar_Lamp> !gq | diverdude
[13:38] <Rory> !details | diverdude
[13:38] <Lunar_Lamp> (for example, you might be asking: "is the lenovo x1 carbon fully comatible with linux?" or "has anyone managed to get the wireless card working on my..." )
[13:39] <diverdude> Rory: i dont have a question. I just want to know if ubuntu is running smoothly on that machine or if it have quirks with controlling CPU fan or utilizing graphic card or enabling the fingerprint or other dead annoying issues which ubuntu had with my previous lenovo
[13:39] <Rory> diverdude: I can't vouch for that exact laptop, why don't you google the model and the word "ubuntu"? a lack of results is probably a good thing because it means people aren't posting problems ;)
[13:39] <Rory> diverdude: However, I have a Thinkpad and it's flawless
[13:41] <osbinHD> good morning :) probably :) im a new in linux and got problem like that
[13:41] <osbinHD> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[13:41] <osbinHD> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[13:41] <osbinHD> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[13:41] <osbinHD> osbin@osbin-Compaq-Presario-CQ71-Notebook-PC:~$
[13:41] <jrib> osbinHD: you should show the line right before
[13:42] <Rory> osbinHD: In future, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste multiple lines, it avoids spamming the channel. what command did you run to produce that error?
[13:42] <Rory> osbinHD: That can happen when the update manager, or software centre are running, can you check that both of those are closed
[13:43] <oswin> diverdude, I have severall freinds that have experienced ubuntu on X1 carbon : seems to have a very poor trackpad support. No idea about fingerprint and wifi  and graphics semmed to work well
[13:43] <oswin> diverdude, No idea about fingerprint but wifi  and graphics semmed to work well
[13:44] <Rory> diverdude: Generally there's very few laptops where Ubuntu simply won't work; the hardest thing you might have to deal with is wifi
[13:44] <uduyy> Hi all, how are you. Newbie Ubuntu user here
[13:45] <Rory> Hello uduyy
[13:45] <raub> Talking about laptops, how do I get pen pressure to work under gimp in a X61 running 13.04?
 try to restart
[13:45] <frog_> Hi. Is there a way, how i can delete/mute L/R out of a video file? And when is there a program that can work a stack?
 one moment mate
[13:45] <osbinHD> brb
[13:46] <Rory> raub: Try installing wacomcpl
[13:48] <raub> Rory: I believe I installed it but must have missed something. I will check it later
[13:48] <zaphodis42> hello, can I know if it is possible to install Ubuntu Desktop and Server on the same computer?
[13:49] <geirha> zaphodis42: quite possible
 nothing changed
[13:49] <DJones> zaphodis42: Yes, you can dual boot between them quite easily, or install Desktop and then run Ubuntu Server in virtual box
[13:49] <lilix> hi
[13:50] <zaphodis42> Alright, I'll check that. Thank you!
[13:50] <geirha> zaphodis42: or use the same install for both
[13:50] <Pici> zaphodis42: Server and Desktop are the same OS with different default packages.
[13:50] <Rory> osbin: Nothing changed... after you did what?
[13:50] <osbin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6583484/ here is lines
 closed all porgrams
[13:51] <Amijai> hey
[13:51] <Pici> osbin: you need to prefix your command with sudo
[13:51] <rosco_y> Can I disable internet access on a ubuntu machine so I can let my 4 year old daughter play on it?
[13:51] <Amijai> I need urgent assistance!
[13:51] <Rory> !ask | Amijai
 thanx :) thats all :) i did it
[13:52] <Amijai> I started to install ubuntu on a computer with Win7 on it and almost deleted the whole disk by choosing Linux Swap for the entire HD
[13:52] <oswin> Damn how can I stop tracker-store ?
[13:52] <rosco_y> (I want to create an account for her, in which the computer doesn't have internet access when using that account.)
[13:53] <Rory> Amijai: Did it already apply those partition changes?
[13:53] <Rory> Amijai: IE have you already clobbered your disk?
[13:53] <Amijai> I was able to recover using TestDisk, but now when i enter sudo /fdisk -l it shows the partition ID as 7 but when I try to install it shows as Linux Swap
[13:53] <Rory> Amijai: Can you put your sudo fdisk -l output on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[13:54] <Amijai> Rory, I did, but I was able to recover and boot to Windowa 7
[13:55] <rosco_y> so rephrased: Can I disable internet access on a single account
[13:56] <rosco_y> (Question marks included at extra cost)
[13:56] <Amijai> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6583524/
[13:56] <oswin> rosco_y, yes it is possible, search the internet for a complete answer, like : http://askubuntu.com/questions/102005/disable-networking-for-specific-users
[13:57] <rosco_y> oswin: thank you very much!
[13:58] <oswin> rosco_y, or others here : https://www.google.ch/search?q=ubuntu+disable+internet+access&oq=ubuntu+disable+internet+access&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l3.8793j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&qscrl=1#q=ubuntu+disable+internet+access+user&qscrl=1
[13:59] <uduyy> Do people really ask here before googling it? Wow
[13:59] <uduyy> I thought questions here are the most difficult ones
[13:59] <wildon> n guidance on chat for python
[13:59] <Pici> wildon: #python
[14:00] <wildon> checking news
[14:00] <Amijai> how do i paste a PNG of what I get in GParted
[14:00] <Amijai> ?
[14:00] <Rory> Amijai: Take a screenshot, upload to imgur.com
[14:01] <Amijai> Rory, did you see the fdisk post?
[14:01] <Rory> Amijai: Did it have my name on the same line?
[14:01] <Rory> Otherwise, no, cos I'm in a few channels and only really watch my highlight log
[14:01] <rosco_y> oswin: Thank you very much--both of your links are huge :)
[14:02] <Rory> rosco_y: http://rory.sh:41443/46W
[14:03] <Amijai> Rory, http://i.imgur.com/5lIZDjp.png
[14:03] <Rory> OK Amijai what you should do is right click the swap, select disable swap
[14:03] <Rory> Amijai: Then right-click it and select delete
[14:04] <Rory> Amijai: Then, you can use the Ubuntu installer, and select the Guided Partioning option to install into the free space
[14:04] <Amijai> Rory, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6583563/
[14:04] <Rory> Amijai: Reboot in-between actually
[14:05] <Amijai> Rory, Thanks, I have to step out for a10 mins, brb
[14:09] <mhm5000> Hi
[14:12] <Mehrzad> Hi
[14:14] <Mehrzad> From what I understand from the ubuntu installation guide it requires a disk re-partitioning before installation. Is it true?
[14:15] <wildon> hi
[14:18] <raub> What is the file /var/cache/apt/archives/lock for?
[14:19] <gordonjcp> raub: what is any lock file for?
[14:19] <raub> i mean, if it is the lock file for apt, shouldn't it be deleted after it rans?
[14:19] <Beldar> raub, If you have two installers open it will lock, or stop a install while running.
[14:20] <raub> Alos, its date is Dec  7  2011
[14:20] <Rallias> Is it just me or is packages.ubuntu.com offline right now?
[14:20] <raub> Rallias: you are not the only one
[14:20] <geirha> Rallias: the file itself is not a lock. First one to open the file gets the lock
[14:21] <Rallias> geirha, Check your tabcom
[14:21] <geirha> Rallias: err, sorry
[14:21] <Rallias> It's okay.
[14:21] <raub> geirha: shouldn't it report a more current date then?
[14:22] <geirha> raub: the modification time of the file means nothing in that regard. It never gets modified.
[14:23] <raub> Ok
[14:23] <Aikar> Hi - I just got a SLI setup, trying to run triple head (Friend sold me his build really cheap, couldnt pass it up). I'm having trouble enabling xinerama. I can get the login screen fine, but logging in hangs with black screen and mouse cursor. Starting X from TTY does same and last line printed is loading extension NV-CONTROL. Ive even tried using the nvidia-331 drivers, and modified Xorg.conf to have SLI=On and MultiGPU=On too, same problem
[14:24] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[14:24] <R4v3n> hi
[14:24] <R4v3n> does anyone know a good alternative to subsonic, someone here recommended me that software because i want to stream music from HTPC > WAN > 3G > Google Nexus 4
[14:25] <R4v3n> BUT i found out now that Subsonic has started taking payment for their "premium" after 30 day usage
[14:25] <R4v3n> http://www.subsonic.org/pages/premium.jsp
[14:25] <R4v3n> and im wondering if anyone know a better alternative? alternatively if it's not for the Linux plattform ?
[14:27] <raub> So, back to my logrotate question, shouldn't i see files in /var/cache/apt/archives? http://pastie.org/private/yidymjsh2h4eyavnxxw8a
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> R4v3n  is that a media player?
[14:28] <zump> i cant access port.ubuntu.com on ubuntu arm.. help
[14:29] <R4v3n> MonkeyDust: well it's more of a music streaming server
[14:29] <geirha> raub: move away the files it complains about
[14:29] <R4v3n> MonkeyDust: what i want to do, is to stream my .mp3 library over the internet to my Google Nexus 4
[14:29] <R4v3n> i already tried music player daemon (MPD) but it's not efficient for me
[14:29] <R4v3n> i get poor performance with the software
[14:30] <wildon> i want to get python chnl
[14:30] <k1l_> zump: maybe the servers are down. just wait a bit
[14:30] <Pici> wildon: /join #python
[14:30] <Aikar> Hi - I just got a SLI setup, trying to run triple head (Friend sold me his build really cheap, couldnt pass it up). I'm having trouble enabling xinerama. I can get the login screen fine, but logging in hangs with black screen and mouse cursor. Starting X from TTY does same and last line printed is loading extension NV-CONTROL. Ive even tried using the nvidia-331 drivers, and modified Xorg.conf to have SLI=On and MultiGPU=On too, same problem
[14:31] <Pici> wildon: you need to be registered and identified to join though.
[14:31] <Pici> !register | wildon
[14:31] <Pici> R4v3n: mpd can output to shoutcast.
[14:31] <R4v3n> Pici: well that's also an alternative to set up a shoutcast server
[14:31] <R4v3n> Pici: but then again it's a disadvantage for me to radio stream out my music library, subsonic would be gold worth
[14:32] <R4v3n> the thing is im wondering if their premium license "destroys" the abillity to play what song i ever like from my library on my phone when outside somewhere
[14:32] <Amijai> I'll try again: I have a 320GB HD with Win7 on the entire disk. I booted from an Ubuntu LiveUSB to install Ubuntu along side Windows. I chose the  partition and set it as Swap by mistake and hit continue. I realized the mistake and stopped it. I ran TestDisk in CLI and scanned the HD. It found the NTFS partition. I changed the type from D (Deleted) to P (Primary). I saved the changes. I copied the backup boot sector and rebooted. Windows work
[14:32] <Amijai> s just fine. I booted to Ubuntu LiveUSB again. I chose "Something Else and the partition shows a linx swap. When I list the partition in a terminal it shows as NTFS. I want to resize the partition to make room for Ubuntu. Can't. Ideas?!
[14:33] <Amijai> fdisk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6583563/
[14:33] <neyder_> hi there, how can I instalas dnsmasq server on ubuntu 12.04
[14:33] <neyder_> apt-get install dnsmasq gives me that this packages doesnt exists and it's replaced by dnmasq-base
[14:33] <Amijai> GParted: http://i.imgur.com/5lIZDjp.png
[14:34] <raub> geirha: ls /etc/cron.*/logrotate shows no files
[14:35] <bsdbandit> im trying to set up users to authenticate to active directory using kerbose keytab file when trying to ssh into my servers im getting the following errors now  ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[14:35] <Beldar> Amijai, I would pull out what you need from the windows install and reinstall it, having it read differently like that is not good.
[14:35] <wildon> i need too no how to use feedparser
[14:35] <geirha> raub: Odd. In that case the error message is very misleading
[14:35] <mhm5000__> @Mehrzad
[14:35] <Amijai> Beldar, But it works in windows
[14:35] <mhm5000__> I have SSH problem
[14:36] <mhm5000__> anybody could help?
[14:36] <Amijai> Beldar, Only the GUI partitioning apps see it as Swap
[14:36] <Beldar> Amijai, sure, do what you want but I would reinstall.
[14:37] <Beldar> Amijai, You should have an image of that windows anyway.
[14:37] <mhm5000__>  
[14:37] <mhm5000__>  
[14:37] <mhm5000__>  
[14:37] <FloodBot1> mhm5000__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:37] <Amijai> Beldar, How do I create an image?
[14:38] <Mehrzad> What's the benefits of installing on ext4 against ntfs?
[14:38] <k1l_> Mehrzad: ubuntu is designed to work on ext filesystem.
[14:38] <Amijai> Beldar, Is it possible to use dd to copy the partition, repartition the drive and put the copy back?
[14:38] <DJones> Mehrzad: NTFS is useless for Linux, it doesn't have the appropriate permissions, so its not likely to work very well (if at all)
[14:38] <Beldar> Amijai, many ways, acronis has a free one, you get one free one on any windows 7 install up to pro where you can do as many as you want, many cloners out there.
[14:38] <Mehrzad> k1l_: meaning it works faster on it?
[14:39] <Mehrzad> DJones: Ah
[14:39] <k1l_> Mehrzad: it measn you dont get a ton of problem s on it
[14:39] <Mehrzad> k1l_: ah
[14:40] <haxxpop> can ubuntu 10.10 still run command "sudo apt-get update" ?
[14:40] <wildon> yes
[14:40] <k1l_> haxxpop: nope
[14:40] <DJones> haxxpop: No, its EOL so the repositories won't exist anymore
[14:40] <wildon> how do i code in python
[14:40] <k1l_> haxxpop: its not supported since quite a while now. so better make a plan for a new install of a still supported ubuntu version, like 12.04 or 13.10
[14:41] <Mehrzad> between 12.04 LTS and 13.10 which would you recommend for installation?
[14:41] <_KryDos_> hello guys. Please tell where I can find the input field into "Friends" application? :D I can't find it
[14:41] <Mehrzad> k1l_: Thanks
[14:41] <k1l_> Mehrzad: depends on your needs. LTS got 5 year support., the others need  to be updated at least every 9 month
[14:42] <haxxpop> is there a way to install new version by using SSH ?
[14:42] <Mehrzad> Well, then 12.04
[14:42] <k1l_> !eolupgrade | haxxpop
[14:44] <mohamednaija> The exit status code '126' says something went wrong:
[14:44] <mohamednaija> stderr: "sh: 1
[14:44] <fonzy> h
[14:46] <neyder_> hi, in 12.04 how can I make when I share my internet connection (shared network in NM) clientes see my computer as an local domain called SERVER intead an odd ip number 10.24.0.1
[14:46] <benyoussef666> hfljg
[14:47] <neyder_> i'm trying to use dnsmasq, but it isn't installable trought apt-get , so i don't know how can I do that
[14:47] <benyoussef666> dnsmask
[14:47] <rantic1> g
[14:48] <mohamednaija> bonjour, j'ai un pb avec le bundle Knp_Snappy
[14:48] <Pici> !fr | mohamednaija
[14:48] <somsip> So I've used 'set -o vi' for ages and it works fine, but it's not in .bashrc, .bash_aliases or .profile. Where else could I have set this??
[14:50] <mmazing> i've recently built qemu 1.6.1 from scratch on ubuntu 12.04, and now my virt-manager says that my KVM module isn't loaded or that qemu isn't installed
[14:51] <mmazing> lsmod | grep kvm yields "kvm" and "kvm_amd" but virt-manager can't seem to see it
[14:51] <`compdoc> mmazing, from scratch? what does that mean?
[14:51] <phunyguy> mmazing, is there a possible group you have to be a member of?
[14:52] <mmazing> from scratch meant that i didn't use apt to install it, i compiled the latest version
[14:52] <mmazing> phunyguy: it was working before this so i don't think it's a group issue and i'm running it as root, i had to upgrade the version for unrelated reasons
[14:53] <phunyguy> ok, was just a thought.  Good luck.
[14:53] <mmazing> well, i compiled 1.6.1, 1.7.0 is out so i might try upgrading to that one
[14:53] <mmazing> phunyguy: thanks
[14:53] <raub> mmazing: I thought to be easier to build you rown package than installing from source
[14:54] <mmazing> oh, i've never made a package, i usually just "./configure" "make" "make install" when available
[14:54] <raub> You are still using the version you want but keep all dependencies happy
[14:55] <Mehrzad> Does ubuntu installer have partition editor?
[14:55] <DJones> Mehrzad: Yes it does
[14:55] <mmazing> Mehrzad: try
[14:55] <raub> mmazing: did you remove the original ubontu package before compilion your own?
[14:55] <neyder_> Mehrzad, yes just use advanced parttion
[14:55] <DJones> !gparted | Mehrzad
[14:55] <mmazing> raub: no :\ i guess i should try to clean it off and try again?
[14:55] <iszak_> Does anyone use Ubuntu 13.10 as a production server?
[14:56] <iszak_> Because it's short EOL and all
[14:56] <mmazing> iszak_: personally, i will only use LTS releases for production / or even development for that matter
[14:56] <DJones> iszak_: Probably some do, although I'd expect most people running servers to stick with LTS releases for production servers
[14:56] <raub> DJones: it depends on what you want to do. I believe you can reach parted
[14:56] <raub> iszak_: I second what the others said; just use LTS for servers
[14:56] <iszak_> DJones: mmazing that's what I thought.. but I want newer packages e.g. Apache 2.4
[14:56] <phunyguy> iszak_, it all depends on if you have a valid reason to, I guess.
[14:56] <Mehrzad> And it can format the parition I want with ext4 and for swap?
[14:57] <raub> I have a few 11.10 boxes that are being a pain int he ass because of that
[14:57] <iszak_> and I could use a PPA but I guess I don't trust the maintainer.
[14:57] <phunyguy> iszak_, it is possible the PPA maintainer also maintains the 13.10 packages
[14:57] <phunyguy> just a thought.
[14:57] <raub> Mehrzad: thebwtdefault installer will aloow you to do that
[14:57] <so_> hi all, i have probleme with wifi, when i try to connect the systeme aske me mdp (wpa) and when i write and click ok, the message reappaires but the mdp is good, so i don't know how resolv that (sorry for my english)
[14:57] <iszak_> phunyguy: perhaps.. still a risk.
[14:57] <mmazing> iszak_: is there some specific functionality that you want from apache 2.4?
[14:57] <raub> just tell it to do custom or whatever
[14:58] <iszak_> mmazing: some of the modules + async IO
[14:58] <Mehrzad> raub: Thanks
[14:58] <phunyguy> raub, please try to keep language clean as well.  Thanks
[14:58] <phunyguy> :)
[14:58] <RockingRocker> hey
[14:58] <RockingRocker> i need halp
[14:58] <phunyguy> RockingRocker, what can we do for you?
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> RockingRocker  let's hear it
[14:59] <RockingRocker> I am downloading Ubuntu dor the 1st time
[14:59] <RockingRocker> and i want to know how to do all teh stuff
[14:59] <RockingRocker> and since my PC is brand new
[14:59] <RockingRocker> i'm a bit worried x)
[14:59] <raub> Mehrzad left; i worder if the desktop allows you to do partition the same way you do in the server install
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> RockingRocker  so what's your suestion
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> qestion*
[15:00] <phunyguy> RockingRocker, before the Floodbots get in an uproar, try not to use the enter key so much.  :)
[15:00] <RockingRocker> Is ubuntu 13 safe to install and won't harm my pc?
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> RockingRocker  it's safe
[15:00] <phunyguy> RockingRocker, define safe
[15:00] <mmazing> raub: do you think apt-get remove <package> will be sufficient since i did make install without removing it before?
[15:00] <phunyguy> !manual | RockingRocker
[15:00] <RockingRocker> You mean like I can install it and just ley it go and it will work like a charm?
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> RockingRocker  safer than that OS from Redmond (i forget the name)
[15:00] <RockingRocker> Debian?
[15:01] <yash069> RockingRocker: is it came with Win8 preinstalled
[15:01] <yash069> ?
[15:01] <yash069> i mean did it come
[15:01] <RockingRocker> Win 7 updated to Win 8 then 8.1
[15:01] <raub> mmazing: I dunno, but you could try to forget reinstall (-f) and then remove. And then compile your own stuff. I am just owrried that there are conflicts here
[15:02] <yash069> okay, does it have UEFI ?
[15:02] <mike-irssi> RockingRocker: Debian is to Ubuntu as Microsoft is to Windows
[15:02] <RockingRocker> bcuz i know afriend that installed ubuntu 12 and it screwed his PC up and had to buy a new one
[15:02] <iszak_> mmazing: DJones raub what are peoples thoughts on using Ubuntu and Debian together? and use whatever is the latest inbetween cycles?
[15:02] <k1l_> RockingRocker: just use your brain when it comes to the formating and repartionating section in the installer. if you tell the installer to use the whole disk it will erase windows
[15:02] <k1l_> RockingRocker: that is a lie. ubuntu cant harm the pc, that its not working anymore
[15:02] <RockingRocker> okay thank you guys :D
[15:03] <mike-irssi> RockingRocker: thank Debra and Ian ;)
[15:03] <RockingRocker> but is GRUB2 compatible with win8
[15:03] <RockingRocker> ,
[15:03] <mmazing> iszak_: i'm not sure i understand, do you mean switch distros as they come out?
[15:03] <k1l_> RockingRocker: yes
[15:03] <iszak_> mmazing: well if say Ubuntu 12.04 is out then Debian 7 is released I'd use Debian 7 until Ubuntu 14.04 comes out
[15:03] <RockingRocker> Ok because i red a forum where a guy could not see GRUB2 coming up
[15:04] <RockingRocker> last minute of wait until Linux ;)
[15:04] <yash069> RockingRocker: emm, because he had UEFI
[15:04] <RockingRocker> and I don't?
[15:04] <k1l_> iszak_: there is a new ubuntu every 6 months. i would not change in that time
[15:05] <RockingRocker> but i have Win8
[15:05] <iszak_> k1l_: I'm talking LTS
[15:05] <RockingRocker> Can I use pendrive linux to put the iso on my thumb drive?
[15:05] <mmazing> iszak_: i've never tried to switch distros on a running environment, but i'm sure there are people here who have :)
[15:05] <RockingRocker> (Ubuntu 13.10)
[15:05] <k1l_> iszak_: ubuntu and debian differ in quite a lot issues. you can switch, but i dont think that is an advantage
[15:06] <iszak_> mmazing: not on a running environment, but for any new servers.
[15:06] <iszak_> k1l_: well I use an abstract layer for provisioning (puppet) so I'm not sure I'd notice it as much
[15:06] <iszak_> Seems like a pain though.
[15:06] <yash069> !UEFI | RockingRocker
[15:06] <k1l_> iszak_: and even LTS gets updates with enablement stack etc
[15:06] <iszak_> k1l_: they get security fixes, not new versions.
[15:07] <RockingRocker> ok thank you
[15:07] <mmazing> iszak_: i would just worry about introducing changes and bugs that you don't know about when doing sweeping system changes like that
[15:07] <k1l_> iszak_: read about the enablement stack, please
[15:08] <gustav___> Having some packet loss with an USB NIC. Any ideas?
[15:08] <iszak_> k1l_: it's not the kernal or X stacks I care for.
[15:08] <mmazing> gustav__: has the computer been in sleep mode or suspended?
[15:08] <gustav___> mmazing: No.
[15:09] <Tuxguy> Where can I get the -ugly-multiverse repo from?
[15:09] <gvikaskc> \server irc.dal.net
[15:10] <gvikaskc> sorry
[15:10] <RockingRocker> ok time has come, i now have linux on my usb :D
[15:11] <RockingRocker> brb when installation is done
[15:11] <mmazing> gustav__: just to make sure, have you restarted? sometimes i get weird network issues that are fixed by a reboot
[15:11] <Tuxguy> This app needs gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse, but I can't find that exact combo
[15:11] <gvikaskc> sir, i have to remove and add my printer every time i restart my pc
[15:12] <gustav___> mmazing: Have now. Looking for the problem.
[15:13] <mmazing> hmmm, i have apt-get remove and purge all of the packages i installed the other day, and qemu is still there :\
[15:13] <gustav___> mmazing: Nope. Still there.
[15:13] <mmazing> how should i go about removing this and starting from scratch
[15:14] <mmazing> gustav__: it could be bad hardware, does the same USB NIC get packet loss on other computers?
[15:14] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[15:17] <gustav___> mmazing: Doesn't seem to be any packet loss when there's low through-put.
[15:17] <gustav___> Seems like the normal USB NIC problem I've seen before.
[15:18] <mmazing> hmm, i'm not familiar with any regular problems with ubuntu and USB NICs, so this has happened before to you and solved before?
[15:19] <gustav___> It happened, not in Ubuntu, and not solved.
[15:19] <rosco_y> How do I share my HP Laserjet with a Windows 8 machine on the Network?
[15:19] <gustav___> Basically threw the NIC in the trash, I think. But the built-in NIC's port is damaged, or the cable is damaged... so I need a replacement.
[15:20] <mmazing> every year or so i have to buy a new router because it eventually starts dropping packets en masse
[15:21] <gustav___> I think that the problem is in the USB on the motherboard. Some kind of bottle neck.
[15:22] <gustav___> Clueless as to how to configure it.
[15:23] <RockingRocker> i'm back
[15:23] <RockingRocker> so
[15:24] <RockingRocker> I did boot Ubuntu from my USB and now I wanna dualboot it with 8.1 so I did click Install Ubuntu and i choosed "Install alongside them" and now it says Windows 7 as biggest partition and not Windows 8.1
[15:24] <RockingRocker> :/
[15:26] <njsg> Jordan_U_: no luck with ubuntu, and one of the images seems to have some other problem. The one that is ok mounts on the same kind of linux distribution that created it.
[15:26] <RockingRocker> Help? "I did boot Ubuntu from my USB and now I wanna dualboot it with 8.1 so I did click Install Ubuntu and i choosed "Install alongside them" and now it says Windows 7 as biggest partition and not Windows 8.1"
[15:27] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[15:27] <yash069> RockingRocker: still u have windows 7  ?
[15:27] <RockingRocker> nope
[15:27] <RockingRocker> Only 8
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> RockingRocker  maybe 8.1 is too exotic for the installer and it thinks it's 7
[15:28] <RockingRocker> when I click "Show smaller partitions" I have Windows 7 loader wich has 400GB and Windows 8 loader that has 300MB
[15:28] <mike-irssi> RockingRocker: mine identified as Vista--once you get ubuntu installed you can use grub-customizer to change the title
[15:28] <Pici> nation/70
[15:28] <Pici> er
[15:28] <Rory> RockingRocker: Agreed. It's just cosmetic
[15:28] <RockingRocker> Oh ok
[15:29] <RockingRocker> But the space shown on the Windows partition is the free space of the whole space?
[15:29] <RockingRocker> pr£
[15:31] <mike-irssi> RockingRocker: probably, you'll want to resize that
[15:31] <RockingRocker> If I give ubuntu 120 GB and 320GB on Windows will it be ok?
[15:32] <k1l_> RockingRocker: i suggest you boot windows and shrink that windows partition from the windows disk utility in systemsettings.
[15:32] <k1l_> RockingRocker: after that you can partition that new free space for the ubuntu installation
[15:32] <mike-irssi> RockingRocker: i have half that but i'm only using this as a desktop
[15:33] <RockingRocker> Yeah but the question is that if the space allocated on Windows is the WHOLE space (Containing my stuff) or just the free space I can play around with?
[15:33] <RockingRocker> is
[15:34] <mike-irssi> RockingRocker: resizing won't let you partition used space--i believe
[15:34] <RockingRocker> Ok so thanks guys, brb when Linux is installed.
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> the struggle of a linux beginner, reminds me of how i used to be years ago
[15:39] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[15:42] <dale> any idea why im getting invalid mac addresses when trying to PXE boot a maas node?
[15:44] <d1n0> in the maas.log i see a invalid mac address... in the oops file i see a pxe template error
[16:00] <zump> i corrupted my file system so im trying to use a live usb. but busybox drops me into initramfs saying that its unable to mount that exact same file system.. help?!
[16:01] <Aikar_> Hi - I just got a SLI setup, trying to run triple head (Friend sold me his build really cheap, couldnt pass it up). I'm having trouble enabling xinerama. I can get the login screen fine, but logging in hangs with black screen and mouse cursor. Starting X from TTY does same and last line printed is loading extension NV-CONTROL. Ive even tried using the nvidia-331 drivers, and modified Xorg.conf to have SLI=On and MultiGPU=On too, same problem
[16:03] <Aikar> Hi - I just got a SLI setup, trying to run triple head (Friend sold me his build really cheap, couldnt pass it up). I'm having trouble enabling xinerama. I can get the login screen fine, but logging in hangs with black screen and mouse cursor. Starting X from TTY does same and last line printed is loading extension NV-CONTROL. Ive even tried using the nvidia-331 drivers, and modified Xorg.conf to have SLI=On and MultiGPU=On too, same problem
[16:03] <DarsVaeda> hi, can you order Déjà Dup to delete older backups instead of waiting till the space is gone?
[16:05] <iptable> zump try fsck, I believe it's part of busybox. It really depends on how you corrupted it and what you want to do with that now
[16:06] <zump> iptable: if only it was part of busybox :( thats the only thing i want to run
[16:12] <glitsj16> DarsVaeda: you might look at http://askubuntu.com/questions/73163/how-do-i-delete-old-backup-files
[16:13] <Novus2> So I maybe dumping windows today
[16:14] <Novus2> the last program I loved using is going leach mode,.. photoshop requires subscription to use now
[16:16] <Novus2> at what point during the install can I use the traditional interface and remove unity
[16:16] <Novus2> ?
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> Novus2  no need to remove, simply install something else, then logout, switch, login
[16:17] <CarlFK> I am moving /home to a 2nd drive, so /dev/sdb1.  what should the fstab line look like?  copying / gives me:   /dev/sdb1 /home/               ext4    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[16:17] <Novus2> MonkeyDust what do you mean? I just don't want it period
[16:18] <Novus2> I don't hate it,. I just don't want it
[16:18] <Novus2> wtf?
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> Novus2  yes, but it's a pain to remove it, simpler, faster and easier is to simply install something else
[16:18] <Novus2> what is the something else?
[16:18] <FireMedic>  /nick FiremanEd
[16:18] <Pici> Novus2: or choose to download an Xubuntu or Lubuntu or Kubuntu disk image.
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> Novus2  lxde and xfce are poupular
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> Novus2  like so: http://i.imgur.com/3N5f6.jpg
[16:20] <Novus2> well i don't have a slow computer by any means
[16:20] <Novus2> it's prolly faster then most people's here
[16:20] <Novus2> so I don't really need a light weight version
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> !notunity | Novus2
[16:21] <Novus2> I liked Gnome 2,.. how does it compare to gnome 3?
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> Novus2  fallback mode is very similar to gnome2
[16:22] <Antiqua> Novus2,  gnome2 = dead   vs. gnome 3 = alive
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> !nounity
[16:22] <Novus2> anyone play STO?
[16:24] <korst3n> Hi.. i accidently copied over /root/.ssh/ folder among with some other folders under /root/ of some other system, and now i can't seem to log in to the server - tells me "permission denied". any ideas how i can fix this remotely?
[16:25] <Novus2> does linux mint have te access to the ubuntu repos?
[16:25] <raub> korst3n: can you login as another user?
[16:25] <korst3n> raub: i tried but i can't
[16:26] <DJones> !mint | Novus2 You're probably best asking their own support network about that,
[16:26] <raub> korst3n: is that a vm?
[16:26] <Novus2> ah ok
[16:26] <korst3n> raub: unfortunately not.. it's a server without monitor, and it's about 300km away from me.
[16:26] <Novus2> see here is the thing
[16:26] <Novus2> i loved ubuntu 9.10
[16:26] <raub> korst3n: I think you might have a bit of an issue now
[16:27] <Novus2> anyway,.. I also have a AMD driver would that be an issue?
[16:27] <raub> young001: really need to be able to login as another user or console
[16:28] <raub> young001: sorry; that was not for oyu. Just tab completion at work ;)
[16:28] <korst3n> guess i'll keep trying.. thanks!
[16:39] <Guest68025> is it possible to recover a ntfs partition using only live ubuntu?
[16:41] <nick787> Guest68025: yes
[16:42] <Guest68025> nick787 : how can i do that?
[16:42] <nick787> Guest68025: google mount ntfs
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> !recover | Guest68025
[16:44] <LeMike> hello. awk always gives me the complete line of a file and not just the pattern. why could that be? `awk '/(\w*)/ { print $1 }' foo.txt` one line looks like "abc/def"
[16:45] <llutz> Lenn1e: awk -F '/'
[16:46] <llutz> LeMike: ^^ default delimiter is space
[16:46] <LeMike> uh yeah
[16:47] <LeMike> thanks llutz . anyway i don't get it. got what i need now but why my pattern doesn't work. dunno ...
[16:48] <HeathHayle> Has anyone here used macbunutu?
[16:48] <llutz> LeMike: "abc/def" is one word, so pattern matches.
[16:48] <HeathHayle> Can I have some help with macbubtu?
[16:49] <llutz> LeMike: if your line doesn't contain any whitespaces, awk matches the whole line because it sees it as one large word
[16:50] <llutz> LeMike: thus you have to specify -F for  a field separator different from whitespace
[16:50] <OerHeks> HeathHayle, macubuntu theme can wreck your system, and is not an official package
[16:50] <jmg76_> #arenabd
[16:53] <jigal1> where can i find php 5.3.3-7 in the apt lib?
[16:55] <lucido> hello, has anyone been able to get neverwinter nights 2 working?
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> lucido  is that a game?
[16:57] <pdkl> lucido, crossover
[16:59] <frog_> hi.
[16:59] <frog_> when i try to install ubuntustudio in virtualbox i get this message: http://imgur.com/SNSNRll
[16:59] <frog_> What am i doing wrong?
[16:59] <MonkeyDust> frog_  you need the i386 vresion, not the amd64 version
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> version*
[17:00] <d1n0> any idea why im getting invalid mac addresses when trying to PXE boot a maas node? in the maas.log i see a invalid mac address... in the oops file i see a pxe template error
[17:00] <d1n0> then, when the node pxe boot's.. I am seeing a 403 error when downloading packages
[17:00] <frog_> MonkeyDust: that means not 64 but 32bit version?
[17:00] <MonkeyDust> frog_  indeed
[17:01] <frog_> MonkeyDust: ok thanks for the fast help!!!
[17:01] <HeathHayle> Can anyone help me with macbuntu?
[17:02] <lucido> MonkeyDust, pdkl, hehe, yes it's a game, I got it working now with playonlinux
[17:02] <kostkon> !anyone | HeathHayle
[17:02] <HeathHayle> Does anyone here use macbunutu?
[17:04] <HeathHayle> Anyone?
[17:05] <phunyguy> !anyone
[17:05] <phunyguy> :)
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> is macbuntu even supported here?
[17:07] <OerHeks> MonkeyDust nope, and as macubuntu theme can wreck your system, stay away from it
[17:08] <HeathHayle> Why can it wreck your system?
[17:09] <HeathHayle> How?
[17:09] <OerHeks> HeathHayle, it is nt just a set of icons and a background, it is full of scripts to make it look/feel ike mac.
[17:09] <OerHeks> *like
[17:09] <phunyguy> I wouldn't go as far to say it is unsupported... but good luck getting support... if that makes sense.
[17:10] <HeathHayle> Oerhks Yer I know
[17:10] <phunyguy> I doubt anyone wants to touch that with a 10 foot pole.
[17:10] <HeathHayle> Am I using it just need help with one thing on it apart from that its great
[17:10] <phunyguy> HeathHayle, what is the actual issue?
[17:11] <HeathHayle> The pannel at the top is black and not like macos
[17:11] <phunyguy> oh... does the macbuntu team have a bug reporting tool?
[17:11] <fsf-free> Welcome to ##fsf-free, a channel for discussion of all free software and Internet freedom related things! :-)
[17:12] <phunyguy> fsf-free, ???
[17:12] <HeathHayle> phunyguy: Not sure
[17:12] <phunyguy> HeathHayle, that may be your best option.  Like I said, I doubt anyone in here can or want to help you
[17:12] <phunyguy> wants*
[17:12] <OerHeks> original macbuntu is designed for xfce xubuntu, maybe the gnome3 panel is not supported (yet)
[17:12] <jigal1> where can i find php 5.3.3-7 for ubuntu
[17:13] <HeathHayle> Why dont they want to help me?
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[17:13] <llutz> fsf-free: stop spamming here
[17:13] <HeathHayle> OerHeks: Oh so if it install xfce xubuntu insted it would work?
[17:14] <OerHeks> HeathHayle, i guess so, yes.
[17:14] <Jazz> So I am very new to Ubuntu and Linux in general. If I want to stream via DLNA it is easier to set up just a media server or run through Plex/Serviio or the likes?
[17:14] <phunyguy> HeathHayle, it is entirely possible
[17:14] <fsf-free> llutz, ok
[17:14] <HeathHayle> Oh ok thanks guys will install that insted
[17:15] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop #logout and change DM
[17:15] <phunyguy> jigal1, good question... what version opf Ubuntu?
[17:15] <phunyguy> of*
[17:16] <HeathHayle> OerHeks: Oh would that work?
[17:16] <phunyguy> jigal1, that looks like a really old version of PHP... no?
[17:17] <phunyguy> jigal1, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/5.3.3-7ubuntu1
[17:17] <HeathHayle> OerHeks: Can I PM you?
[17:18] <phunyguy> Jazz, that all depends on the device you are streaming to
[17:18] <HeathHayle> OerHeks: Can I?
[17:19] <jigal1> phunyguy: yep
[17:19] <HeathHayle> Is it ok to change Linux destros  via terminal?
[17:19] <jigal1> I need to configure a box for it
[17:20] <phunyguy> HeathHayle, perfectly fine, in teh ubuntu world except for a few minor things.
[17:20] <HeathHayle> Oh cool
[17:20] <jigal1> phunyguy: how can i uptain that with apt-get?
[17:20] <phunyguy> jigal1, looks like the last supported version of ubuntu for that package is natty (11.04)
[17:20] <phunyguy> which is EOL.
[17:20] <jigal1> hmmm ok so I can't even get it anymore
[17:21] <phunyguy> which means, you probably can't (very easily)
[17:21] <jigal1> ok
[17:21] <phunyguy> if you can find the .deb for it on the site I linked, you can try it out, but I doubt it will work.
[17:21] <phunyguy> (dependencies, etc)
[17:21] <HeathHayle> phunyguy: Oh one problem the distro I can using is for non-pxe but will this one be that I am downloading?
[17:21] <phunyguy> HeathHayle, what?
[17:22] <phunyguy> are you talking about the apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, or are you downloading an ISO?
[17:22] <jigal1> phunyguy: so I gould beter upgrade to 5.3.5 first or so
[17:22] <jigal1> right?
[17:22] <phunyguy> jigal1, I have no idea
[17:22] <HeathHayle> Downloading via apt
[17:22] <phunyguy> oh... it is just a package containing the xubuntu desktop
[17:23] <phunyguy> PXE should still work fine....
[17:23] <phunyguy> unless you are PXE booting an image which will be wiped upon restart
[17:23] <HeathHayle> Cool what display manager do I use gdm or lightdm ?
[17:24] <phunyguy> lightdm
[17:24] <jigal1> hmm ok phunyguy I would like  version 5.3.24 can I get that with apt-get?
[17:24] <HeathHayle> Thanks for your help
[17:24] <phunyguy> np.
[17:24] <fever308> How do I get adobe flash? When I press download it says it can not be found
[17:24] <phunyguy> jigal1, what version of Ubuntu?
[17:24] <jigal1> 12.04
[17:25] <phunyguy> !info php precise
[17:25] <HeathHayle> So whats the difference between ubuntu and this distro?
[17:25] <phunyguy> errm...
[17:25] <Pici> !info php5 precise
[17:25] <phunyguy> !info php5 precise
[17:25] <phunyguy> :P
[17:25] <FloodBot1> phunyguy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:25] <IdleOne> fever308: install flashplugin-installer
[17:25] <phunyguy> getting closer.
[17:26] <HeathHayle> phunyguy: What?
[17:26] <phunyguy> HeathHayle, xubuntu is ubuntu with the XFCE desktop
[17:26] <phunyguy> Ubuntu uses Unity.
[17:27] <fever308> IdleOne: Where is it located, is it using the terminal cause I just tried and it didn't work.
[17:27] <HeathHayle> But only if you install unity
[17:27] <jigal1> http://packages.ubuntu.com/ seems to be down
[17:27] <IdleOne> fever308: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[17:27] <HeathHayle> You can install gnome on ubuntu
[17:27] <phunyguy> HeathHayle, if you installed regular Ubuntu, you get the Unity desktop (with the icons on the side), if you install Xubuntu desktop, you get XFCE, which is a more traditional desktop.
[17:28] <fever308> Idleone: I get this Package flashplugin-installer is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[17:28] <IdleOne> fever308: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[17:28] <fartface> I'm trying to dualboot Windows and elementary, and after the install, it boots straight to Windows, there's no grub.  I've burned another disk, a boot repair disk, which came up with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6584400, since there's only one disk installed, I'm guessing it installing grub to /dev/sdb is where it bunged up and I should reinstall grub to /dev/sda, am I right there?
[17:28] <HeathHayle> phunyguy: i did the min install of ubuntu so I picked gnome
[17:28] <K0HAX> I have Kubuntu, because KDE is fun. :P
[17:28] <fever308> I think 11.0.4 I forgot what cmd is it to check again?
[17:28] <IdleOne> fartface: ask the elementary channel
[17:29] <implementation> Hey guys. I've got an ubuntu installation in a virtual machine, and i've got a running snapshot where i am logged in, but i can't remember my password. is there a way to reset it, that does not involve shutting down the vm and mounting the vdisk manually?
[17:29] <IdleOne> fever308: run: lsb_release -a
[17:29] <fartface> It's based on Ubuntu, the same thing happens with ubuntu.
[17:29] <MonkeyDust> fever308  what's the outcome of   cat /etc/issue
[17:29] <fever308> 12.04.4 LTS
[17:29] <HeathHayle> phunyguy: i did the min install of ubuntu so I picked gnome
[17:29] <IdleOne> fartface: based on is not equal to. ask the proper channel
[17:29] <phunyguy> HeathHayle, please be patient and stop repeating yourself.
[17:29] <phunyguy> so you are on gnome.  That would also explain why it doesn't work.
[17:30] <MonkeyDust> fever308  there's no 12.04.4
[17:30] <HeathHayle> phunyguy: i used the min install and installed gnome
[17:30] <phunyguy> xubuntu will probably be a better fit.
[17:30] <raub> implementation: not that I know of; ypu need to shutdown for it to reset the memory state amongst other thingies
[17:30] <fever308> that's what I get
[17:30] <HeathHayle> Oh isnt macbuntu for gnome then?
[17:30] <fever308> Package flashplugin-installer is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[17:30] <fever308> opps
[17:30] <IdleOne> fever308: try sudo apt-get flashplugin-nonfree
[17:30] <phunyguy> HeathHayle, I do not know.
[17:30] <fartface> OK, here, I'll rephrase my question...
[17:30] <IdleOne> fever308: try sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[17:30] <fartface>  I'm trying to dualboot Windows and Ubuntu, and after the install, it boots straight to Windows, there's no grub.  I've burned another disk, a boot repair disk, which came up with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6584400, since there's only one disk installed, I'm guessing it installing grub to /dev/sdb is where it bunged up and I should reinstall grub to /dev/sda, am I right there?
[17:31] <IdleOne> fartface: too late.
[17:31] <HeathHayle> Oh I thought you said thats why its not working?
[17:31] <implementation> raub: damn, that's what i feared. thank you anyway.
[17:31] <fever308> E: Unable to locate package flashplugin-nonfree
[17:31] <IdleOne> fartface: Please use the proper support channel. We have no idea what elementary may have changed or not.
[17:31] <phunyguy> HeathHayle, I am trying to help.  I don't know much about macbuntu, but I was helping you get Xubuntu working.  I cann't be any more help than that
[17:32] <IdleOne> fever308: you do have multiverse enabled?
[17:32] <raub> implementation: if it makes you feel any better; i wish I could do that too. Maybe harass the libvirt/kvm crowd and tell them if they do not make that work you will sing?
[17:32] <HeathHayle> Thats cool you have been great help!
[17:32] <HeathHayle> Thats cool you have been great help!
[17:32] <MonkeyDust> HeathHayle  if you like the Mac interface, try Pear OS, they have their ow support channel
[17:32] <MonkeyDust> own*
[17:33] <HeathHayle> Oh ok cool
[17:33] <Novus2> So can I install gnome 3 in ubuntu?
[17:33] <phunyguy> !info flashplugin-installer precise
[17:33] <implementation> raub: it's not even kvm, but virtualbox. at the time i created that one, i did not even know kvm -- that's also the reason why i forgot the password :D
[17:33] <phunyguy> !info gnome-shell | Novus2
[17:33] <fever308> Idleone: Well I started with Linux last week so I don't know what that is, I should tell you this cause this is why i couldn't do a lot of things, I have armel architecture
[17:34] <raub> implementation: usually if you did not make any changes since last snapshot, just go back to it and all will be well
[17:34] <fugutive221> Hi folks
[17:34] <HeathHayle> Thanks guys for your help
[17:34] <raub> In vitualbox I have killed a vm in a rather nasty way and then reverted to last snapshot and all was well
[17:34] <fugutive221> When doing unsquashfs open2.img I get the following error: Can't find a SQUASHFS superblock on open2.img
[17:35] <implementation> raub: the snapshot does work well, but with a password i do not know ^^
[17:35] <IdleOne> fever308: hmm, not sure if that changes things. ok, open up the Software Center and check in the settings, make sure you have multiverse repository enabled (the little box needs to be checked)
[17:35] <phunyguy> IdleOne, fever308, flash is only available on i386 and amd64
[17:35] <fever308> ahh k
[17:35] <fever308> thanks
[17:35] <IdleOne> phunyguy: fever308 in that case, multiverse won't help
[17:36] <phunyguy> says so in the info I triggered
[17:36] <fever308> Thanks anyway guys
[17:36] <phunyguy> np.  :)
[17:36] <IdleOne> fever308: sure thing, sorry.
[17:36] <IdleOne> thanks phunyguy :)
[17:36] <phunyguy> in...deed.
[17:36] <phunyguy> I need food.  bbiab all!
[17:36] <fugutive221> Could somebody help me please?
[17:37] <Guest85754> fugutive221: what I've found (as a frequent needy newbie), is if you ask a question and wait awhile, someone usually comes along with he
[17:37] <Guest85754> lp.
[17:38] <Guest85754> If in doubt, ask your question again from time to time, but be patient
[17:39] <fugutive221> Ok
[17:39] <Guest85754> How do I share a mount point with a windows pc on the network?
[17:39] <IdleOne> !samba | Guest85754
[17:39] <Guest85754> NFS ?
[17:40] <Guest85754> IdleOne: ty :)
[17:42] <puff`> Good afternoon. So, on the advice of many here, I tried out bumblebee, which requried upgrading to 13.10.  I installed everything and then rebooted... how do I know if it's working?
[17:43] <VlperX> argh I can't find how to fix my issue
[17:43] <eutheria> hi, with nvidia drivers above 304 is anyone else experiencing ctrl+c or d not working?
[17:43] <VlperX> so much google and no answer
[17:44] <mdma> Hi! Any guy with nagios knowledge?
[17:48] <eutheria> mdma: try the nagios channel
[17:49] <mdma> Sorry but no answer in nagios....
[17:52] <digitalwrite> hi is bash still important?
[17:52] <is2b007> does anyone know how to format a drive that is "busy"
[17:52] <digitalwrite> people seem to use python or perl now
[17:52] <digitalwrite> why is that?
[17:53] <pc> Guest85754 try to configure samba properly or use built in menu for sharing
[17:59] <phunyguy> digitalwrite, they all have their place.
[17:59] <Tuxguy> My webcam 'works' in cheese, etc. But I can't find it using lspci or lsub. Any other way to detect it? i tink there is an issue w/ the driver..... the image is really fuzzy and dark
[17:59] <AshleyD1985> Hi, can anyone assist me here?  I'm trying to set a persistent environment variable in my ec2 userdata script.
[18:01] <AshleyD1985> sudo export FOO=BAR does not work...
[18:01] <AshleyD1985> Should I just edit the ~/.bashrc file, and then source it?
[18:01] <AshleyD1985> but will it stay on the machine if nobody is logged in?
[18:02] <AshleyD1985> That's where I'm not clear.
[18:02] <llutz> !find pyephem
[18:06] <Wassim> salut
[18:06] <Wassim> aide moi
[18:06] <Wassim> !
[18:07] <mike-irssi> AshleyD1985: /etc/bashrc is where i would but an alias, i don't know about your question tho sorry
[18:07] <mike-irssi> put*
[18:08] <AshleyD1985> I just want to set PYTHONPATH somewhere persistent
[18:08] <zykotick9> mike-irssi: just curious, do you actually have a /etc/bashrc file?
[18:08] <AshleyD1985> sorry, PYTHONSTARTUP
[18:08] <mike-irssi> zykotick9: negative, i have a bashrc.something
[18:09] <mike-irssi> "bash.bashrc"
[18:12] <AshleyD1985> mike-irssi: I have that file bash.bashrc as well.  If I append a sudo export PYTHONSTARTUP=mystartupfile, is that I all I have to do?
[18:12] <AshleyD1985> mike-irssi: Or do I have to source the file in my startup script as well?
[18:12] <mike-irssi> AshleyD1985: i would think you could drop sudo for that particular variable
[18:13] <yahyaa> rory I got it fixed
[18:13] <AshleyD1985> And, will it persist across user sessions?  Okay, I'm not quite sure when to use sudo, but that's a separate problem. =)
[18:13] <yahyaa> this is jonathan
[18:15] <_KryDos_> hello. can someone help me please. Is it possible to write extension for unity like gnome3 extensions?
[18:16] <yahyaa> does any one know how to get handbrake
[18:16] <flound1129> anyone use ferm quite a bit?
[18:17] <flound1129> I'm trying to disable connection tracking for certain connections, however when I try to save it tells me:
[18:17] <flound1129> Notice: The NOTRACK target is converted into CT target in rule listing and saving.
[18:17] <flound1129> then it barfs and fails
[18:20] <murgero> hey guys!
[18:20] <murgero> how is everyone?
[18:20] <AshleyD1985> bleh, case of the mondays...
[18:20] <mike-irssi> AshleyD1985: stapler
[18:21] <AshleyD1985> Love that movie!
[18:21] <HeathHayle> OerHeks: Why do you say that macbunutu doesn't work on ubuntu?
[18:21] <zykotick9> yahyaa: check of a PPA, i believe there a few choices for handbrake there (see "/msg ubottu ppa" if you are not familiar)
[18:23] <yahyaa> ok thanks
[18:25] <tony_> hello
[18:25] <eHAPPY> any suggestions on a better way to find my largest files/directories than "sudo du -h /var --max-depth=1"
[18:26] <zykotick9> eHAPPY: you might want to check out ncdu
[18:26] <zykotick9> !info ncdu
[18:28]  * puff 
[18:28] <fever308> How do I get java for chromium on ubuntu?
[18:28] <mike-irssi> fever308: icedtea i think
[18:28] <HeathHayle> Does anyone here use macbuntu?
[18:30] <HeathHayle> phunyguy: How do I uninstall xbuntu?
[18:31] <mike-irssi> fever308: might need openjdk too
[18:32] <fever308> I have openjdk
[18:32] <fever308> how do I install icedtea I got the tar.gz and extracted it
[18:32] <mikubuntu> am trying to rescue NTFS files on my friends custom box. she has 3 - 1 Terrabyte drives (i guess her C: drive) that were 'deleted' from her win 7. i put a live ubuntu in and successfully booted ubuntu. all the missing NTFS files appear in the file manager. my problem is how do i, or is it possible to restore these files so that win7 will see them.
[18:33] <fever308> what do I do now?
[18:33] <mike-irssi> apt-get install icedtea-7-plugin
[18:33] <mike-irssi> or just icedtea-plugin
[18:34] <fever308> thanks
[18:34] <mike-irssi> fever308: np
[18:35] <HeathHayle> Pkunyguy are you still there?
[18:35] <mike-irssi> mikubuntu: test-disk
[18:35] <Jordan_U_> mikubuntu: So from Ubuntu's perspective nothing is wrong? Can you pastebin thee output of "sudo fdisk -l"?
[18:39] <eHAPPY> zykotick9 thanks! that was perfect
[18:40] <HeathHayle> How do I remove xbuntu when i added it via teminal?
[18:40] <mikubuntu> mike-irssi: Jordan_U_ ok, first line of output is 'invalid option -- '1'
[18:41] <MonkeyDust> !pureubuntu | HeathHayle
[18:42] <mike-irssi> mikubuntu: can't be sure because you say the files are in tact.. is it just not booting
[18:42] <zykotick9> eHAPPY: glad to help
[18:43] <partybean> How to install TightVNC on ubuntu 13.10 ?
[18:43] <mike-irssi> mikubuntu: i would unmount and run testdisk, recover the filesystem if it was formated or get a rescue disk for windows and fixmbr
[18:43] <rivo> I am trying to update myubuntu. Im using version 2.04, but I get error  The package system is broken.
[18:43] <mikubuntu> Jordan_U: thats right, that's what i was just thinking, that it's boot file is corrupted, and its a win7 boot file
[18:44] <rivo> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  libqt4-opengl: Depends: libqtcore4 (= 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.2) but 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.4 is installed                Depends: libqtgui4 (= 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.2) but 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.4 is installed libqt4-svg: Depends: libqtcore4 (= 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.2) but 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.4 is installed             Depends: libqtgui4 (= 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.2) but 4:4.8.1-0ubuntu4.4 is installed
[18:44] <rivo> Any suggestions?
[18:47] <rivo> I have tried  following commands : "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get install -f"
[18:47] <fartface>  I'm trying to dualboot Windows and Ubuntu, and after the install, it boots straight to Windows, there's no grub.  I've burned another disk, a boot repair disk, which came up with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6584400.  I've tried reinstalling grub2, and reconfiguring, but grub still won't show up--does anyone have any ideas?
[18:49] <mikubuntu> mike-irssi: are you still suggesting the unmount, test, and recover from above? and if so, how :)
[18:51] <zykotick9> rivo: could you paste.ubuntu.com the output of "apt-cache policy libqtcore4"?
[18:51] <rivo> Sure
[18:54] <HeathHayle> MonkeyDust: That site is missing commands isn't it?
[18:55] <mike-irssi> install testdisk and then follow the prompts
[18:56] <mike-irssi> mikubuntu: if you she has space you can reinstall 7 and not lose a thing
[18:58] <ch1p> hu
[18:58] <ch1p> hi
[18:59] <Rory> Hello ch1p
[18:59] <ch1p> tail: cannot watch `/tmp/x11vnc.tray.PCLyxn': No such file or directory tail: cannot watch `/tmp/x11vnc.tray.PCLyxn': No such file or directory     while executing "close $channel"     (procedure "read_client_info" line 25)     invoked from within "read_client_info $client_tail"     (procedure "read_client_tail" line 5)     invoked from within "read_client_tail"
[19:00] <prashant_123456> hello all
[19:01] <MonkeyDust> HeathHayle  what you can try: backup, then: sudo apt-get purge xubuntu-desktop (to remove the meta package), then: sudo apt-get autoremove
[19:01] <jmgk> Hello prashant_123456
[19:01] <jmgk> :)
[19:02] <prashant_123456> jmgk: yes
[19:02] <jmgk> what help do you need prashant_123456
[19:03] <prashant_123456> jmgk: i am not here for help i am testing my irssi so thats why and glad that its working
[19:03] <jmgk> oh
[19:03] <rivo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6584982/
[19:03] <HeathHayle> MonkeyDust: Thanks I will try that
[19:03] <jmgk> check your pm prashant_123456
[19:03] <jmgk> for a test
[19:03] <jmgk> :)
[19:04] <jmgk> I use irssi swell
[19:04] <prashant_123456> jmgk: actually i am using irssi for the first time and dont know how to check pm
[19:04] <rivo> zykotick9 for you: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6584982/
[19:04] <jmgk> ahh
[19:04] <mike-irssi> prashant_123456: ctrl+p
[19:04] <jmgk> prashant_123456:  there should be a little number flashing ..
[19:04] <jmgk> as the channels are you in is labeled 1 2 3 4 5 6
[19:04] <jmgk> :)
[19:05] <jmgk> and extra pm windows are 7 I thnk
[19:05] <jmgk> mike-irssi:  is good at this :P
[19:05] <zykotick9> rivo: did you manually install some kde package from DEBs or something?  why do we see "100 /var/lib/dpkg/status"?
[19:06] <prashant_123456> jmgk: yes i got it
[19:06] <jmgk> ok
[19:06] <jmgk> reply
[19:06] <jmgk> prashant_123456:
[19:07] <Pici> !test
[19:07] <zykotick9> rivo: oh, nevermind - that's normal!
[19:08] <rivo> zykotick9: you are right, i did install dbs file what i found from forum
[19:08] <zykotick9> rivo: ok, second request - "apt-cache policy libqt4-opengl"
[19:09] <zykotick9> rivo: BAD idea!
[19:09] <zykotick9> rivo: i mean the installing debs manually from forum link
[19:09] <fernando_> hello
[19:09] <rivo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6585028/
[19:12] <zykotick9> rivo: hummm, sorry, i don't have any suggestions - or know where the problem is... but your admitting to manually adding DEBs suggests some version dependency is messed up.  hope you can figure it out/find a fix, best of luck.
[19:13] <rivo> Well, I tried the udate manager first tho, got the packet system is broken error. Details: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6585033/
[19:14] <rivo> did mine every possible forum for info,noluck. I might just reinstall
[19:15] <onetinsoldier> rivo: what did you hack? .deb files?
[19:15] <hitsujiTMO> rivo what version of ubuntu are you using?
[19:15] <HeathHayle> MonkeyDust: i have tried that and it didn't work
[19:15] <rivo> im using 12.04
[19:15] <onetinsoldier> rivo: i know of a file you  hack to get around the problem. but keep in mind, it is hacking!
[19:16] <fbbdev> Hi! How can I compile programs to run with glibc 2.11 on ubuntu 13.04 (GLIBC 2.17)? I know I can do this in a chroot environment with Ubuntu Lucid or similar distributions: is this the only way?
[19:16] <onetinsoldier> rivo: i know of a file you *could* hack to get around the problem. but keep in mind, it is hacking!
[19:17] <hitsujiTMO> o.O is packages.ubuntu.com down or is it just me?
[19:17] <rivo> onetinsoldier, im listening
[19:17] <DJones> hitsujiTMO: It has been down today
[19:17] <onetinsoldier> rivo: okay, hang on a few moments
[19:17] <glitsj16> hitsujiTMO: has been down since last night
[19:19] <fbbdev> hitsujiTMO: same for me
[19:19] <Mehrzad> Hi
[19:19] <fbbdev> hitsujiTMO: host unreachable
[19:19] <Mehrzad> Hi
[19:20] <onetinsoldier> rivo: okay.  cd /var/lib/dpkg
[19:20] <Mehrzad> How can I add winxp to grub?
[19:21] <fbbdev> Mehrzad: can't you just use update-grub with os-prober?
[19:21] <fbbdev> Mehrzad: it should find winxp by itself...
[19:21] <Mehrzad> fbbdev: What's update-grub?
[19:22] <rivo> keep going
[19:22] <onetinsoldier> rivo: sudo cp -v status status.bak
[19:22] <fbbdev> update-grub is the script that generates grub.conf on ubuntu
[19:23] <onetinsoldier> rivo: i'd like confirmation of everything. in my opinion i consider this to be a sensitive operation
[19:23] <fbbdev> Mehrzad: if you're running a normal ubuntu install, try 'sudo update-grub'
[19:23] <hitsujiTMO> rivo, ok, seems what the version of libqtcore4 you have installed is correct for 12.04. it's libqt4-opengl and libqt4-svg that are behind. what exactly are you installing?
[19:23] <rivo> okei, as you wish'
[19:24] <onetinsoldier> rivo: okay, ty
[19:24] <rivo> hitsujiTMO i was installing updates
[19:24] <onetinsoldier> rivo: although i guess it isn't that sensitive since you are willing to reinstall if necessary ;-)
[19:24] <PDilyard> my computer just went to a black screen and then flashed a green fuzzy screen every few seconds. I had to hold down the power button to shut it off
[19:24] <Mehrzad> fbbdev: I don't how what to add to the script
[19:25] <hitsujiTMO> rather than doing that hackery you can manually wget the correct versions and install them
[19:25] <onetinsoldier> rivo: okay, what text editor do you use? vim?
[19:25] <Mehrzad> fbbdev: I don't know what to add to the script
[19:25] <rivo> onetinsoldier Yeah, I really dont mind anything, I am already fucked anyway
[19:25] <onetinsoldier> rivo: roger that
[19:25] <onetinsoldier> rivo: what text editor do you use? vim?
[19:26] <PDilyard> this exact thing hasnt happened before but similar things have happened
[19:26] <PDilyard> ubuntu seems to be less stable than windows
[19:26] <rivo> onetinsoldier well, whats the default?'
[19:26] <onetinsoldier> rivo: whatever it is, you need to use it as sudo/root
[19:26] <rivo> okei, will root
[19:27] <onetinsoldier> rivo: are you familiar with using any text editor in linux?
[19:27] <hitsujiTMO> rivo, onetinsoldier before ye go that crazy route, can I suggest something much safer?
[19:27] <onetinsoldier> hitsujiTMO: sure
[19:27] <Mehrzad> fbbdev: Is there any other practical solution?
[19:28] <fbbdev> Mehrzad: You don't need to change anything if you're running the default ubuntu installation
[19:28] <rivo> Not really, im not at all familiar with linux. To be clear, I have very limited knowledge about linux
[19:28] <rivo> So talk to me like im 10 year old
[19:28] <rivo> years
[19:29] <fbbdev> Mehrzad: just run 'sudo update-grub' in the terminal and it should find it
[19:29] <Mehrzad> fbbdev: How to get winxp back to the boot menu then?
[19:29] <Mehrzad> fbbdev: Is that all?
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> rivo  there's edubuntu for children your age ;)
[19:29] <onetinsoldier> hitsujiTMO: it's just that i saw someone say that he hacked .deb files. to get that to work, from my experience, requires another hack
[19:29] <Mehrzad> fbbdev: I ask beacuse I should reset before I can try it
[19:29] <fbbdev> Mehrzad: That's all, if you didn't change grub.cfg manually
[19:30] <Mehrzad> fbbdev: thanks
[19:30] <scotsguy> how do i remove menu fromside of ubuntu and make it like ubuntu 120.4
[19:30] <hitsujiTMO> rivo: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubunut/pool/main/q/qt4-x11/libqt4-opengl_4.8.1-0ubuntu4.4_amd64.deb
[19:30] <Ivanov> Hey guys, i am trying to install fglrx but not sure what version of drivers i need
[19:30] <scotsguy> 12.04
[19:30] <rivo> MonkeyDust indeed there is
[19:30] <Ivanov> my steam installation kept telling me they were out of date when i installed them via ubuntu so should i try to get them from AMD's website?
[19:31] <rivo> hitsujiTMO your link is not working
[19:31] <Pricey> !fglrx
[19:31] <hitsujiTMO> rivo: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/q/qt4-x11/libqt4-opengl_4.8.1-0ubuntu4.4_amd64.deb
[19:31] <Pricey> Ivanov: ^
[19:31] <hitsujiTMO> rivo sorry, misspelled ubuntu
[19:31] <hitsujiTMO> rivo: wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/q/qt4-x11/libqt4-svg_4.8.1-0ubuntu4.4_amd64.deb
[19:32] <Ivanov> Pricey yeah i did that and it just keeps telling me my driver is outdated when i try to start steam gameds
[19:32] <hitsujiTMO> rivo: sudo dpkg -i libqt4-opengl_4.8.1-0ubuntu4.4_amd64.deb
[19:32] <hitsujiTMO> rivo: sudo dpkg -i libqt4-svg_4.8.1-0ubuntu4.4_amd64.deb
[19:32] <hitsujiTMO> rivo: then: sudo apt-get if install
[19:32] <hitsujiTMO> rivo and pastebin the output
[19:33] <onetinsoldier> hitsujiTMO: have you seen the following that rivo posted? --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6585033/
[19:33] <llutz> hitsujiTMO: -f install
[19:33] <rivo> roger that
[19:33] <hitsujiTMO> onetinsoldier: yes, I'm getting him to pull the correct latest versions from the repo manually
[19:33] <Ivanov> the issue is they all report to steam as being outdated
[19:34] <onetinsoldier> hitsujiTMO: okay, cool
[19:34] <hitsujiTMO> rivo: then: sudo apt-get -f install
[19:34] <Ivanov> and the expirimental-13 branch just doesnt let steam even start, gives me a GL error
[19:34] <hitsujiTMO> llutz: ty
[19:35] <Pricey> Ivanov: You went through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ?
[19:35] <Ivanov> yeah
[19:35] <Ivanov> i am trying the additional drivers thing again
[19:35] <Ivanov> but the issue is it shows three "expirimental" branches
[19:35] <Pricey> Hmm, maybe they are outdated compared to amd's.
[19:35] <Ivanov> and none have version numbers
[19:35] <Ivanov> yeah thats why i figured, do i just go to amd and get them like i used to on windows?
[19:35] <hitsujiTMO> ivanov: what gpu do you have?
[19:35] <Ivanov> AMD Radeon HD6790 1GB
[19:35] <Ivanov> not great but definately supported :P
[19:36] <hitsujiTMO> yeah, the latest driver in ubuntu should be perfect considering that valve target precise
[19:37] <Ivanov> hitsujiTMO it doesnt work that way for me
[19:37] <MacJones> Can I download apps from Google Play from my Samsung Galaxy s4 in Pakistan?
[19:37] <Ivanov> i tried the 'normal' installation at the top of the list and it refused to install
[19:37] <Ivanov> i had to install "(post release updates)" version first, and thats when steam started giving me errors
[19:38] <hitsujiTMO> Ivanov: is this by anychance with an early access game?
[19:38] <Aikar> Hi - I just got a SLI setup, trying to run triple head (Friend sold me his build really cheap, couldnt pass it up). I'm having trouble enabling xinerama. I can get the login screen fine, but logging in hangs with black screen and mouse cursor. Starting X from TTY does same and last line printed is loading extension NV-CONTROL. Ive even tried using the nvidia-331 drivers, and modified Xorg.conf to have SLI=On and MultiGPU=On too, same problem
[19:38] <Ivanov> no, its steam in general
[19:38] <Ivanov> steam gives me the warning/error on startup
[19:39] <hitsujiTMO> Ivanov: do you have fglrx installed now?
[19:39] <Ivanov> it says it is but it is not
[19:39] <Ivanov> fglrxinfo gives me errors
[19:39] <hitsujiTMO> Ivanov: can you pastebin the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[19:39] <Ivanov> uh, yes
[19:40] <Ivanov> now i just got the strangest popup
[19:41] <Ivanov> 'precise' is no longer under development, but technical support is still available
[19:41] <Ivanov> guess its a crash reporter?
[19:41] <scotsguy> how do i create short cuts on desktop from launcher pannel
[19:41] <rivo> hitsujiTMO Well, i am using 32bit not 64 bit version. So your files are useless
[19:41] <Ivanov> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6585143/ my paste as well
[19:42] <rivo> onetinsoldier Do you want to continue? :p
[19:44] <onetinsoldier> rivo: sure... but hitsujiTMO might be able to get it straightened out now that he knows you are using 32bit
[19:44] <hitsujiTMO> rivo: my apologies. heres the correct set of debs http://paste.ubuntu.com/6585163/
[19:44] <Ivanov> hitsujiTMO: did you get the paste you asked for?
[19:46] <hitsujiTMO> ivanov: i did. looking now
[19:46] <ice9> I installed cinnamon but when I open the application menu or right click to open popup menu from the cinnmon panel, the whole desktop freezes
[19:46] <onetinsoldier> Ivanov: the problem starts here in your pastebin   41.000] (EE) fglrx(0): atiddxDriScreenInit failed. Probably kernel module missing or incompatible.
[19:47] <Ivanov> well, how do i install these drivers?
[19:47] <rivo> hitsujiTMO Okei, thanks mate, will try. If its not helping, I am going probably reinstall
[19:47] <Ivanov> do i just go to AMD and get AMD's latest?
[19:47] <Ivanov> i know the card will work with fglrx if i use the (post-release update) option
[19:47] <Ivanov> it even launches steam
[19:47] <Ivanov> but steam complains its outdated
[19:47] <Ivanov> and thats what i need to fix
[19:48] <onetinsoldier> Ivanov: does steam fail to start up?
[19:48] <onetinsoldier> Ivanov: when you have working, but older, fglrx driver installed?
[19:49] <Ivanov> no it starts fine
[19:49] <Ivanov> it just complains that drivers are outdated
[19:49] <onetinsoldier> Ivanov: okay. it's probably  not an actual error, but just a warning, which you could just ignore
[19:49] <Ivanov> yeah and normally i would
[19:49] <Ivanov> but doing independent game development, uptodate drivers are very vital
[19:50] <onetinsoldier> Ivanov: oh, i see
[19:50] <qpan321> Hi, I am new to IRC. I was in the #python channel and I get this:#python-unregistered :Cannot send to channel
[19:50] <qpan321> what does it mean?
[19:50] <ezra-s> qpan321, register your nick with freenode to be able to talk there
[19:50] <Pricey> qpan321: Did you read the /topic ?
[19:51] <Ivanov> onetinsoldier: how does updating drivers work on linux anyways, is it still automatic like it was on windows?
[19:51] <qpan321> sorry, i don't know what you mean by /topic...where do i go to register and is it complicated?
[19:51] <onetinsoldier> Ivanov: i'm personally don't know how to solve this problem. i  was just pointing out where the problem shows up in the log file
[19:52] <Ivanov> oh thats fine, i just want to figure out how to update the drivers
[19:52] <llutz> !register | qpan321
[19:52] <rivo> hitsujiTMO  and onetinsoldier Thank you for your help. hitsujiTMO way of updating manually did the work.
[19:52] <qpan321> thanks everyone, I will go and try it now
[19:53] <willbradley> does anyone else have this thing where their computer will randomly freeze but the mouse still moves? seems like compiz crashes, maybe during alt-tab
[19:53] <HeathHayle> Is this web site a joke ? http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntuprecise
[19:53] <onetinsoldier> Ivanov: i have installed the lastest drivers from ATI before following the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI tutorial. but it's been a very long time since i have done that.
[19:53] <willbradley> there are open issues on launchpad but no fixes
[19:53] <Ivanov> onetinsoldier: but do you use the driver manager built in or do you just get them from AMD?
[19:53] <onetinsoldier> rivo: great! glad yo got it solved thanks to hitsujiTMO
[19:53] <onetinsoldier> you*
[19:54] <Pici> HeathHayle: no?
[19:54] <onetinsoldier> Ivanov: i usually run the latest version of ubuntu and just use the ubuntu packaged fglrx driver
[19:55] <hitsujiTMO> Ivanov: Seing a few odd errors in the log. You're getting some crashes in libc
[19:55] <onetinsoldier> Ivanov: like right now, i'm running Ubuntu 14.04 ;-)
[19:56] <onetinsoldier> Ivanov: but, of course, i wouldn't recommend 14.04 for a developer that needs as stable a platform as possible
[19:56] <HeathHayle> Pici Cos those packages are just a word program and there is only 4 when I upgraded it installed like 150mb etc of packages
[19:56] <Ivanov> hm maybe i should go up from 12.04 to 13.x then
[19:56] <Ivanov> but im not sure how
[19:57] <Ivanov> took me twod ays just to get ubuntu on the machine at 3AM this morning
[19:57] <Ivanov> first it was steamos with broken ass dependencies, not a good first-linux-distro
[19:57] <Ivanov> every dependency had some +bsos or +steamos version tag that killed 90% of programs id try to install
[19:58] <gordonjcp> Ivanov: tried to install on what?
[19:58] <Ivanov> on my machine
[19:58] <Ivanov> sudo apt-get install etcetc
[19:58] <gordonjcp> on which OS?
[19:58] <Ivanov> SteamOS
[19:58] <gordonjcp> okay, and you were installing from what repository?
[19:58] <Ivanov> all the libraries and dependencies are custom built with +bsos or +steamos version tags that break most programs that require specific dependencies
[19:58] <Ivanov> from Steam's official, and Debian wheezy
[19:59] <gordonjcp> so, you've got pre-alpha software
[19:59] <Ivanov> i managed to get her to Ubuntu now
[19:59] <Ivanov> so no
[19:59] <Ivanov> :P
[19:59] <Ivanov> that was how i got to the situation i'm in now
[19:59] <Ivanov> where im stuck with no graphics drivers, but atl east stuck in ubuntu
[20:00] <HeathHayle> How do I go from xbuntu back to ubuntu? And delete the packergs
[20:01] <HeathHayle> Packages
[20:01] <hitsujiTMO> ivanov: if you're thinking of upgrading, i'd do a clean install of 13.10
[20:01] <onetinsoldier> Ivanov: i'd do what hitsujiTMO just said... clean install of 13.10
[20:01] <gordonjcp> Ivanov: sounds like you have a mix of packages from different repositories
[20:01] <gordonjcp> Ivanov: and one of them is known to be fundamentally unstable
[20:02] <HeathHayle> Anyone?
[20:02] <nocsy> hello I know it's not the right room but I already asked #music; can you help me to find this track ? https://slashb.alwaysdata.net/
[20:03] <MonkeyDust> Ivanov  open a terminal and paste this line   sudo apt-get install pastebinit;sudo apt-get update|pastebint     and paste the url here in the channel
[20:03] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: you in a hurry?
[20:04] <HeathHayle> No
[20:04] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: okay
[20:04] <Ivanov> hmm my only repositories are ubuntu's official
[20:04] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: Xubuntu is a bunch of 'xfce' packages i believe
[20:05] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: hang on a few moments
[20:05] <Ivanov> but maybe a fresh 13.10 install would benefit me
[20:05] <Ivanov> i want to update anyway
[20:06] <Ivanov> least now i can skip all the problems, just make an alternate-boot usb stick since it took me two days to figure out thats the only i can do it, since live images/EFI doesnt work
[20:06] <Ivanov> thanks guys, back soon
[20:07] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: is this package installed??   dpkg -l xfce4
[20:08] <michagogo|cloud> Is the package search page down?
[20:08] <HeathHayle> How do I check?
[20:08] <HeathHayle> In package mansger?
[20:08] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: the command i gave -->    dpkg -l xfce4
[20:08] <john_doe_jr1> I have a script that I need to run but I'd like to pass data to the script using another script…any ideas how I go about doing that?
[20:09] <HeathHayle> Not sure I have got what looks like a string table
[20:09] <MonkeyDust> john_doe_jr1  what scripting language?
[20:10] <john_doe_jr1> MonkeyDust: bash
[20:10] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: do you know how to copy and paste the output?
[20:11] <MonkeyDust> john_doe_jr1  ok, better ask in #bash, i guess
[20:11] <HeathHayle> It says un xfce4 ver none description none
[20:11] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: for instance, on my machine it looks like the following...    un  xfce4                          <none>               <none>               (no description available)
[20:11] <john_doe_jr1> MonkeyDust: alright thanks
[20:12] <HeathHayle> Yer it looks like that
[20:12] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: okay, so that's what yours looks like too then, i take it
[20:12] <HeathHayle> Yep
[20:12] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: do you know how to copy and paste the output from your terminal?
[20:13] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: if you are reffering to bash, inputs are gotten with the $1, $2, $3, etc vars . $0 refers to the script called. $@ is an array of the vars (inlcuding $0) and ${1+$@} would refer to the array of inputs minus the the script filename
[20:13] <HeathHayle> Nope
[20:14] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: obviously you should be using quotes when reffering to those vars, e.g., "$1", "$2", ${1+"$@"}
[20:14] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: okay. you put your  mouse cursor at the point your want to start copying. then hold down the left mouse button while moving the mouse to 'highlight' what it is you  want to copy
[20:14] <HeathHayle> Yep
[20:15] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: then you  place your mouse cursor on your irc chat client and middle click
[20:15] <john_doe_jr1> hitsujiTMO: could u give me an example?
[20:15] <michagogo|cloud> Does anyone know why packages.ubuntu.com is down?
[20:15] <HeathHayle> i will have to upload it to a photo server cos I am using irc on my ipad sorry
[20:15] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: does this command show the package as being installed?   dpkg -l xfdesktop4
[20:16] <Calinou> use a mirror, michagogo|cloud?
[20:16] <onetinsoldier> michagogo|cloud: i had the same issue all day yesterday
[20:16] <michagogo|cloud> Calinou: Do you know of any that are updated with changes as of today or yesterday?
[20:16] <HeathHayle> Yep
[20:16] <qpan123> Hi, I still no sure about registering with freenode. Sorry I am new to IRC. So I typed in /nick <nickname> and irc says you are now known as <nickname>. But I still get this in #python channel: <llutz> !register | qpan321
 qpan321: Information about registering your nickname: #python-unregistered :Cannot send to channel
[20:17] <qpan123> do i need to go to their website and register...?
[20:17] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: okay. i use aptitude. would you mid installing and using it for the package operations?
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> qpan123  type /join #freenode, aske there
[20:17] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: mind*
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> ask*
[20:17] <HeathHayle> Its safe to use isnt it?
[20:17] <qpan123> monkeydusk ok thanks
[20:17] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: play around with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6585321/
[20:17] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: yes
[20:18] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: sudo apt-get install aptitude
[20:18] <HeathHayle> Yer thats fine then
[20:18] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: okay, let me know when it's installed
[20:18] <koell> Why does shotwell freeze on importing pictures?
[20:18] <mike-irssi> qpan123: /msg nickserv help
[20:18] <HeathHayle> i have already got it apranty
[20:19] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: okay, good. are you in xfce right now?
[20:19] <HeathHayle> Nope do you want me to be?
[20:19] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: no
[20:19] <john_doe_jr1> is there an open source ldap query tool out there?
[20:19] <Mehrzad> Hi
[20:19] <HeathHayle> Thats what I thought
[20:19] <xangua> !aptitude
[20:19] <Mehrzad> I want to add winxp to grub
[20:19] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: just curious, what are you in right  now?
[20:19] <Mehrzad> And, sudo update-grub didn't work
[20:20] <Mehrzad> What should I do?
[20:20] <xangua> !puregnome | HeathHayle: How do I go from xbuntu back to ubuntu? And delete the packergs
[20:20] <HeathHayle> Gnome
[20:20] <HeathHayle> onetinsoldier: Can I pm you?
[20:21] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: okay
[20:21] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: sure
[20:21] <mike-irssi> Mehrzad: grub-install
[20:22] <Mehrzad> mike-irssi: Also, what is the standard way to access terminal?
[20:22] <hitsujiTMO> john_doe_jr1: btw, if you're writing scripts that are called during boot, you need to make sure they are dash safe, even if they begin with #!/bin/bash
[20:22] <mike-irssi> Mehrzad: ctrl+alt+t
[20:23] <mike-irssi> Mehrzad: or alt+ctrl+f1, alt+f7 to get back
[20:23] <Calinou> michagogo|cloud, no idea
[20:23] <Mehrzad> mike-irssi: thanks. what after that?
[20:24] <michagogo|cloud> Is there a log somewhere of package uploads, syncs from Debian, etc?
[20:24] <mike-irssi> Mehrzad: find where your hard disk is and then grub-install /that/location
[20:27] <Mehrzad> mike-irssi: what if I say it detects my windows 7?
[20:28] <mike-irssi> Mehrzad: can omit it with grub-customizer
[20:30] <Mehrzad> mike-irssi: I don't want to omit any of the os's. I want to add my windows xp to the list
[20:31] <Mehrzad> mike-irssi: should I still local the harddisk?
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> Mehrzad  it's "chainloader" line, moment
[20:31] <mitch-_> hi, I have a suspend question regarding Ubuntu 12.04LTS and VMWare Workstation 9...
[20:32] <mitch-_> or I guess really, if anyone can tell me how to log the amount of power used while in suspend so that I can compare some different situations
[20:34] <Mehrzad> MonkeyDust: okay
[20:35] <HeathHayle> onetinsoldier: So what do I do now?
[20:35] <onetinsoldier> okay HeathHayle... try     sudo aptitude remove xfdestop4
[20:36] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: i believe it will show that it will want to remove a buch of stuff... doorbell here. brb
[20:37] <mike-irssi> mitch-_: i used gnome-power-statistics to look at my battery
[20:38] <HeathHayle> onetinsoldier: Nope it just removed that one package
[20:38] <mike-irssi> mitch-_: i've seen it hum around 4 watts when unattended
[20:38] <mike-irssi> or so
[20:38] <mitch-_> mike-irssi, does that have a log/compare feature? i'm worried that when i close the lid on my laptop, if i leave VMWare WkStn going, is it using up the battery or is it actually suspending the VM as well?
[20:38] <mitch-_> i never have to resume the VM so i suspect it's eating my battery alive
[20:39] <mitch-_> mike-irssi, but I will try getting that now, thank you by the way!
[20:39] <Mehrzad> MonkeyDust, mike-irssi: what after all?
[20:39] <MonkeyDust> Mehrzad  windows is too long ago, don't remember, don't find it... it's a "chainloader +1" line in grub
[20:39] <terabit_> hi! I'm new to IRC. Can somebody explain me how it works?
[20:39] <mitch-_> mike-irssi, did you mean gnome-power-manager ?
[20:40] <Aikar> Hi - I just got a SLI setup, trying to run triple head (Friend sold me his build really cheap, couldnt pass it up). I'm having trouble enabling xinerama. I can get the login screen fine, but logging in hangs with black screen and mouse cursor. Starting X from TTY does same and last line printed is loading extension NV-CONTROL. Ive even tried using the nvidia-331 drivers, and modified Xorg.conf to have SLI=On and MultiGPU=On too, same problem
[20:40] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: okay, roger that. hang on a moment
[20:40] <mike-irssi> mitch-_: no.. it's standard with ubuntu
[20:40] <Mehrzad> MonkeyDust: okay. you mean grub.cfg?
[20:40] <mitch-_> oh.
[20:41] <mike-irssi> mitch-_: can right click the battery and there's a graph
[20:41] <mitch-_> mike-irssi, D: you're amazing!
[20:41] <mitch-_> holy boob! this is great!
[20:42] <z3roblock> irccloud is useful?
[20:44] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: okay, do    aptitude remove xfwm4
[20:46] <HeathHayle> Its only doing it one at a time when I installed it installed loads so this is going to take forever isn't it?
[20:46] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: how's it going?
[20:46] <xangua> !pureubuntu | onetinsoldier HeathHayle
[20:46] <HeathHayle> So I have removed that one
[20:47] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: well, i thought that would uninstall a lot of it. but  apparently not. let's have  a look at xangua 's suggestion
[20:47] <onetinsoldier> xangua: thank you
[20:47] <HeathHayle> i have but that only removes abiword doesnt it thats only one program
[20:48] <lickalott> gents, still looking for good backup/image options to backup my machine.  Any opinions?
[20:48] <MonkeyDust> !backup
[20:48] <HeathHayle> How can sudo apt-get remove abiword abiword-common abiword-plugin-grammar abiwo  delete more then just abiword?
[20:49] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: you'd need to copy the entire line. it's a  very long line. but i see a lot of packages in that line that i don't think need to be  removed.
[20:49] <eaxxae> HeathHayle: No
[20:50] <HeathHayle> But its just got abiword in it
[20:50] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: it's got a whole lot more than that
[20:50] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: it's scrolls a long way to the right
[20:51] <HeathHayle> Oh yer sorry guys it doesnt do that on my ipad sorry
[20:51] <Aikar> Hi - I just got a SLI setup, trying to run triple head (Friend sold me his build really cheap, couldnt pass it up). I'm having trouble enabling xinerama. I can get the login screen fine, but logging in hangs with black screen and mouse cursor. Starting X from TTY does same and last line printed is loading extension NV-CONTROL. Ive even tried using the nvidia-331 drivers, and modified Xorg.conf to have SLI=On and MultiGPU=On too, same problem
[20:51] <bazhang> lickalott, clonezilla
[20:52] <bazhang> Aikar, what about with xrandr, or arandr if you need a gui
[20:52] <lickalott> I've messed with it, but I don't want to have to reboot everytime to get an image.  Have you had any experience installing to the hdd bazhang?
[20:52] <Aikar> bazhang: I cant get them to seem to show the other displays, at least arandr
[20:52] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: do you want to use it? i am still willing to give you a command of my own if you  want, that might remove most of xfce in one shot
[20:53] <Aikar> they are dimmed out in the menu drop down
[20:53] <mike-irssi> Aikar: i'm not positibe, maybe you need to blacklist neauvea
[20:53] <mike-irssi> sp?
[20:53] <HeathHayle> onetinsoldier I have just pasted that in to termail now
[20:54] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: okay
[20:54] <HeathHayle> onetinsoldier: Can I pm you again a mo
[20:54] <onetinsoldier> HeathHayle: sure
[20:55] <mike-irssi> "nouveau"
[20:55] <Aikar> mike-irssi: hmm, interesting thought, im at work atm so cant try it
[21:02] <ch1p> hey all
[21:02] <ch1p> tail: cannot watch `/tmp/x11vnc.tray.PCLyxn': No such file or directory tail: cannot watch `/tmp/x11vnc.tray.PCLyxn': No such file or directory     while executing "close $channel"     (procedure "read_client_info" line 25)     invoked from within "read_client_info $client_tail"     (procedure "read_client_tail" line 5)     invoked from within "read_client_tail"
[21:02] <ch1p> thats my error with vncx11
[21:02] <Pss> bn8 all
[21:05] <randomcpp> is it just me or cloning code from github is really slow?
[21:06] <amireldor> I'm having trouble with the keyboard layout 3rd level. It worked before, but no more. I'm on 12.04.
[21:06] <amireldor> It seems like any key I set on the keyboard layout options menu for the 3rd level does not activate the third level.
[21:08] <Mehrzad> how can I get the windows borders of firefox back?
[21:09] <Calinou> mike-irssi, they are running the nvidia driver already
[21:09] <Calinou> it won't help...
[21:09] <TJ-> Iriez: Any progress ?
[21:09] <MAF> I have red5 on my server for live streaming, red5 supports rtmp protocol (1935) but doesn't have any authentication by default. Is there any way for make this feature with other program?
[21:09] <Calinou> Aikar, unless you use nvidia-xconfig, no xorg.conf is generated
[21:10] <Calinou> (you should not use nvidia-xconfig, it is terrible)
[21:10] <ch1p> any ideas?
[21:10] <ch1p> https://www.splitvr.com/vacation-rental/51afbfb702017a53e1d5de75
[21:11] <TJ-> MAF: see for example http://code.google.com/p/red5/source/browse/java/example/trunk/authdemo/src/org/red5/demo/auth/Red5AuthenticationHandler.java?r=4335
[21:12] <fbbdev> Hi! Is there a way to build programs on ubuntu 13.04 (glibc 2.17) and have them runnable with glibc 2.11? I know about building in chroot environments, but I'd like to avoid that if possible.
[21:12] <MAF> TJ- Thanks but i'm beginner on ubuntu and red5, how i should do that?
[21:13] <TJ-> MAF: hire an expert :)
[21:13] <Mehrzad> I am getting errors on "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:danielrichter2007/grub-customizer". (gnutls_handshake() failed: A TLS packet with unexpected length was received) Can anyone help?
[21:14] <Ivanov> Hey guys, im installing Ubuntu 13 finally and need advice on how to partition my system for it
[21:14] <MAF> TJ- is there any way to open and exit it's port?
[21:14] <mculp_> hi, I lost my administrator password, and I logged into recovery mode / root and changed it via passwd. now that my passwd is changed, it accepts my log in, but then it goes to a black screen, flashes something about "plymouth" then goes right back to the login screen. any ideas?
[21:14] <Ivanov> i have three internal hard drives, /sda, /sdb/ and /sdd and i am not sure how to partition them
[21:15] <Ivanov> should i seperate /home?
[21:15] <fbbdev> Ivanov: do you have another os on those drives?
[21:15] <Ivanov> no all drives are going to ubuntu
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> Ivanov  sounds RAID to me
[21:16] <TJ-> Ivanov: Depending on how vital it is, you might consider pairing two drives into a raid mirror (RAID-1) to host vital stuff such as /home/
[21:16] <Ivanov> TJ- Monkeydust: i have ZERO clue about that, or how to manage it
[21:17] <MonkeyDust> Ivanov  separate /home is always handy
[21:17] <Ivanov> right now i just had /sdd1 for my /, /sdd5 for 10GB Swapspace
[21:17] <Ivanov> and /sda1 was mounted on /seconddrive
[21:17] <Ivanov> and /sdb1 was on /thirddrive
[21:17] <Ivanov> it was a hackish solution but it had worked
[21:18] <ch1p> anyone familiar with x11 vnc
[21:18] <Ivanov> but id love to have a more unified use of the drives, maybe even a seperate /steam partition to contain my steam installation and its games instead of having it all in ~/.steam
[21:18] <osbin> hello one more time :) installed kde interface ...how to swich to it?
[21:18] <Ivanov> i believe 'kubuntu-desktop' opens that
[21:18] <Ivanov> idk last time i used ubuntu it was version 4.something lol
[21:19] <k1l> osbin: chose that in the login screen. when clicking on the ubuntu icon next to the nick
[21:20] <ChogyDan> Ivanov: please don't use enter as punctuation
[21:21] <xangua> Ivanov: having a separate home partition is always useful
[21:22] <Balzy> hello! Is there someone who could help me to solve a heating problem with an asus laptop?
thanx mate i will try
[21:22] <SteveBell> hi all. my smb.conf file is write protected. which command would I need to apply to get that editable again?
[21:23] <ChogyDan> !lvm | Ivanov
[21:24] <Toph> SteveBell,,, sudo gedit smb.conf doesn't work?
[21:24] <Balzy> anyone with that issue / willing to help?
[21:25] <mculp_> hi, I lost my administrator password, and I logged into recovery mode / root and changed it via passwd. now that my passwd is changed, it accepts my log in, but then it goes to a black screen, flashes something about "plymouth" then goes right back to the login screen. any ideas? I think it may be due to encryptfs -- is there a second password I need to change?
[21:25] <jmgk> hi all
[21:26] <omg_scout> Balzy: This more an issue for technical staff
[21:27] <omg_scout> Balzy: All you can do by yourself is cleaning it inside.
[21:27] <Balzy> omg_scout it's quite new and clean inside, I opened it a 3 month ago
[21:27] <andyfied> Balzy: there are some known issues with some laptops, i'd suggest searching the forums
[21:28] <Balzy> omg_scout I've been googling for months with no result, where could I ask?
[21:28] <omg_scout> Balzy: Use the warranty, then. Not much you can do yourself, in my opinion. Most manufacturers make overheating laptops now, so this is why I always go for graphic card free laoptpos
[21:29] <TJ-> mculp_: Yes... the encrypted home password is 'wrapped' up (encrypted itself) using your log-in password, so if that changes, you need to update the wrapper password too
[21:29] <omg_scout> I also had this problem with few laptops, could not do much on my own
[21:29] <SteveBell> Toph if I sudo gedit smb.conf I just see an empty file
[21:30] <Holden> Hi guys, can anyone tell me if a recent version of audacity can play back .opus files?
[21:30] <mculp_> TJ-: ugh, i forgot my password -- suppose im fucked
[21:30] <andyfied> balsy: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=408 search through here before asking, someone else might have the same model as you
[21:31] <andyfied> Balzy: do you have the latest ubuntu? some of the problems are fixed in updates
[21:31] <SteveBell> Toph: very strange previously I was able to edit the smb.conf and save changes. now that no longer works. I opened that file via dash back then
[21:31] <hitsujiTMO> Balsy, what gpu do you have?
[21:31] <hitsujiTMO> balzy^
[21:32] <mculp_> TJ-: i think i had like 45 bitcoins in my wallet in my home dir :/
[21:33] <Balzy> hitsujiTMO 2 gpus, Ati radeon and the "usual" integrated intel gpu
[21:33] <Balzy> andyfied I'm currently running kubuntu 13.04
[21:33] <TJ-> mculp_: You *did* save the private key file as the tools urged you to, when you created the encrypted home?
[21:33] <hitsujiTMO> Balzy: have you installed the proprietary drivers or, are you on radeon driver?
[21:34] <mculp_> TJ-: not sure, i can't remember setting this up at all
[21:34] <andyfied> Balzy: ati has known issues with some of the driver... yeah, what hitsujiTMO said :D
[21:36] <Balzy_> andyfied, hitsujiTMO sorry I had some connection issue
[21:36] <Balzy_> now I'm back
[21:36] <hitsujiTMO> Balzy_: have you installed the proprietary drivers or, are you on radeon driver?
[21:37] <Toph> SteveBell,,, what works for me is      sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[21:38] <Balzy_> hitsujiTMO currently no, cause when I installed them they messed up with kde
[21:39] <hitsujiTMO> Balzy_: then most likely the issue is power management with the ati card. This unfortunately isn't improved until the release of kernel 3.13
[21:40] <SteveBell> Toph that did the trick. thanks!
[21:40] <sps> Does the software center icon always have a loading sign on it?
[21:40] <Toph> np,,, you just need to include the path
[21:40] <Balzy_> hitsujiTMO mine is 3.8.0-33 shall I try to update?
[21:41] <hitsujiTMO> No, I would Not recommend using an unstable kernel. You'll need to wait for it to be released or use the fglrx driver
[21:42] <Balzy_> hitsujiTMO, I there a way to deactivate and not use the additional video card?
[21:42] <Balzy_> I'm not running gpu intensive applications on this laptop
[21:43] <hitsujiTMO> AFAIK, Not unless you can deactivate it in the bios. You could possibly try blacklisting radeon driver in the kernel if you're not using it
[21:44] <Balzy_> hitsujiTMO okay I'll check the bios first!
[21:44] <Balzy_> thanks!
[21:46] <randomcpp> what are devhelp alternatives for documentation browsing?
[21:47]  * LvMises waves
[21:47] <LvMises> Hey all
[21:48] <mirco> avatar
[21:48] <Calinou> hi, ask your question
[21:48] <onetinsoldier> hi!
[21:49] <MrJerome> I'm having trouble with lighttpd... When I run lighttpd -f -t /etc/lighttpd/lighttpd.conf it says failed: no such file or directory but the file is there I can open it with a text editor
[21:50] <sergiobenrocha2> hello
[21:51] <nexus4> Hello
[21:51] <sergiobenrocha2> hi
[21:51] <TJ-> MrJerome: Is it the conf file being complained about, or one of the directives in that file?
[21:51] <hitsujiTMO> MrJerome: What do the -f and -t flags mean?
[21:51] <sergiobenrocha2> someone knows why wubi is in ubuntu iso?
[21:51] <sergiobenrocha2> I thought that wubi is discontinued
[21:52] <v1c3> Would please anybody have a lookat this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-datetime/+bug/1251222 It slows down ubuntu and leads sooner or later to a systemcrash because the log is getting bigger than 18 Gigabytes!!! This is a major Bug. Please have a look at it! Thats why ubuntu is slow!
[21:52] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: "-f <conf-file>" "-t" test config and exit
[21:52] <amireldor> can I get a Super+<type app name> in Unity, like GNOME-Shell?
[21:52] <MrJerome> it's saying the conf file doesn't exist
[21:53] <hitsujiTMO> so your using the -f flag and ginveing it the file -t ?
[21:53] <amireldor> i mean, to switch to active application, HA
[21:53] <MrJerome> -f means which conf file to use and -t means test the conf file and exit
[21:53] <TJ-> hitsujiTMO: MrJerome: I was waiting for someone else to mention that :)
[21:53] <nexus4> Wubi is with 12.04 for long term installs on windows 8
[21:54] <funky> hey people
[21:54] <funky> how I can make process an auto start
[21:54] <funky> so when I start server it starts?
[21:54] <sergiobenrocha2> but it is in ubuntu trusty daily too, the wubi
[21:54] <funky> do I create sh script?
[21:54] <hitsujiTMO> !upstart | funky
[21:55] <sergiobenrocha2> nexus4, I thougt canonical was drop wubi
[21:56] <nexus4> Yes not as long term package! Long term distro will still use package unless removed.
[21:57] <MrJerome> Ok yes I fixed that and it says syntax OK.
[21:57] <nexus4> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/wubi-unlikely-to-be-in-ubuntu-13-04-windows-users-lose-out
[21:57] <MrJerome> But the server still will not start
[21:57] <MrJerome> it says it starts, but when I run lighttpd status it says No configuration available
[21:58] <sergiobenrocha2> nexus4, yes, but it is still in daily build of trusty, and it is still in 13.10
[21:58] <sergiobenrocha2> i don't understand this
[21:58] <nexus4> This above explains wubi dropped by 13.04
[21:58] <hitsujiTMO> MrJerome: can you post the conf, sounds like its incomplete then
[21:59] <hitsujiTMO> MrJerome: how exactly are you starting lighttpd?
[22:00] <MrJerome> The config should be ok it says Syntax OK and I was using the same file successfully earlier today
[22:00] <MrJerome> I tried /etc/init.d/lighttpd start   and also lighttpd -f <conf file path>
[22:00] <MrJerome> It says it starts OK but must die right away without error message
[22:00] <sergiobenrocha2> ok
[22:00] <hitsujiTMO> MrJerome: An empty cnfig file can have OK syntax too
[22:01] <MrJerome> the file I point it to with -f option is not empty
[22:01] <Zorin> I want to reproduce my exact system and settings, internet settings, files, sound setup exe. should I use remastersys ? how do I do this?
[22:02] <hitsujiTMO> MrJerome: I'm not saying ti is, i'm saying it may be missing some important directive
[22:02] <usrb1n> Hello everybody. I need a tip because I can't find anyway to solve this. My laptop hard drive has passed away today. I've got a copy of my work just yesterday so I was really lucky.
[22:02] <TJ-> MrJerome: Maybe another instance is already running and has claimed the port?
[22:02] <zbrkcbr> hi guys how can I write an iso to a usb stick with terminal
[22:03] <nexus4> See .exe in file if not folder is still in distro seen this months ago with no files.
[22:03] <usrb1n> I have another hdd that I'm using as external hdd with 200gb+ of file and now I need to use that one to install the OS.
[22:03] <MrJerome> http://pastebin.com/SmY9XcPr
[22:03] <usrb1n> The hard drive is not divided, it's just one partition for 500gb. Is ther any way to temp install ubuntu there without formating it and loose the 200gb of backups ?
[22:04] <usrb1n> I can't use a live cd because I don't have a CD drive. So I was thinking in a way to just put the files on the disk
[22:04] <usrb1n> Or like wubi does
[22:04] <hidden> i have been trying to update libboost
[22:04] <usrb1n> I've tried wubi but it won't boot if I don't have windows installed on that hdd
[22:04] <MrJerome> if I run /etc/init.d/lighttpd status it says lighttpd is not running
[22:04] <hidden> all day, literally all day
[22:06] <so_> hi, i want to now model of my graphic cards. can you help me?
[22:06] <so_> know*
[22:06] <andyfied> don't get ati
[22:06] <k1l> so_: type "lspci" and see the line with VGA
[22:07] <nexus4> Haven't played with Ubuntu Linux in 6 months! Just play with gnome 3, Cinnamon and unity! Just for fun. Otherwise openbox and arch Linux
[22:07] <hitsujiTMO> MrJerome: so php5-cgi is installed and fastcgi you've ran: sudo lighty-enable-mod fastcgi && sudo lighty-enable-mod fastcgi-php   ???
[22:08] <sergiobenrocha2> nexus4, thanks, it seems that trusty not use wubi anymore.
[22:08] <canaima_> hola
[22:08] <sergiobenrocha2> but 13.10 use wubi
[22:08] <canaima_> dof
[22:08] <so_> the command is " type "lscpci " ? because when i write that he tell me: lspci is /usr/bin/lspci
[22:08] <TJ-> MrJerome: enable logging, See http://redmine.lighttpd.net/projects/lighttpd/wiki/Server_errorlogDetails
[22:08] <k1l> sergiobenrocha2: dont use wubi at all
[22:08] <TJ-> so_: "lspci -nn | grep VGA"
[22:09] <MrJerome> hitsujiTMO: I did just reinstall php today I need to run those commands?
[22:09] <Beldar> sergiobenrocha2, what is your end goal here?
[22:09] <sergiobenrocha2> k1l, yes, i know, i never use wubi. It has a lot of problems
[22:09] <nexus4> Sergio must be image!
[22:09] <so_> thank's
[22:09] <mouz\lex> hey guys, what is this coffee cup application on statusbar? http://i.imgur.com/SB4XV.png
[22:09] <sergiobenrocha2> Beldar, i thougth trusty was using wubi yet, sorry
[22:09] <hitsujiTMO> MrJerome: you'd need to enable them to enable the mod_fastcgi
[22:10] <MrJerome> hitsujiTMO: do you have a link to the docs for that?
[22:10] <Beldar> sergiobenrocha2, You know the trusty channel is #ubuntu+1  ?
[22:10] <sergiobenrocha2> yes
[22:10] <hitsujiTMO> MrJerome: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lighttpd%2BPHP
[22:10] <Beldar> cool
[22:10] <k1l> mouz\lex: see if its explained in here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/what-application-indicators-are-available
[22:11] <mouz\lex> thanks :)
[22:11] <TJ-> Probably a Starbucks tie-in :p
[22:12] <k1l> mouz\lex: its caffeine, a disable screensaver indicator
[22:14] <MrJerome> hitsujiTMO: I installed both from source http://redmine.lighttpd.net/projects/lighttpd/wiki/tutoriallighttpdandphp
[22:14] <Ice_Strike> In /etc/network/interfaces i have static IP and then i restart the networking it work fine
[22:14] <v1c3> Would please anybody have a lookat this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-datetime/+bug/1251222 It slows down ubuntu and leads sooner or later to a systemcrash because the log is getting bigger than 18 Gigabytes!!! This is a major Bug. Please have a look at it! Thats why ubuntu is slow!
[22:14] <Ice_Strike> In /etc/network/interfaces i have static IP and then i restart the networking it work fine... however when i restart the server - it did not set to static IP?
[22:15] <hidden> can anyone help me with this issue please, been trying all day:
[22:16] <hidden> E: Unable to locate package libboost1.48-all-dev
[22:16] <hidden> E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'libboost1.48-all-dev'
[22:16] <MrJerome> Even if I remove the fastcgi stuff from lighttpd.conf it still won't start
[22:17] <hitsujiTMO> MrJerome: "<MrJerome> I tried /etc/init.d/lighttpd start   and also lighttpd -f <conf file path>"   are you running these with or without sudo?
[22:17] <MrJerome> with sudo
[22:18] <andyfied>  /ignore -channels #ubuntu * JOINS PARTS QUITS NICKS
[22:19] <Ice_Strike> In /etc/network/interfaces i have static IP and then i restart the networking it work fine... however when i restart the server - it did not set to static IP?
[22:19] <hidden> can anyone see me
 can anyone help me with this issue please, been trying all day:
 E: Unable to locate package libboost1.48-all-dev
 E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'libboost1.48-all-dev'
[22:21] <andyfied> hidden: we can see you
[22:21] <hitsujiTMO> hidden, what version of ubuntu?
[22:21] <nexus4> Hidden yes, just debating with self if anyone else could see problem and fix it or leaves is at dead end. Need to reinstall distro.
[22:21] <xangua> v1c3: first, askubuntu is not to report bugs; second, I saw a previous bug report about the panel service freezing and consuming a lot more RAM it is supposed to use witch was solved by enabling the proposed updates and updating unity panel and gtk3
[22:21] <hidden> 12.04, i updated from 10.x to 11.x then 12.04
[22:22] <k1l> !helpfull > nexus4
[22:22] <hitsujiTMO> hidden: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:22] <MrJerome> hitsujiTMO: ok it is something with fastcgi
[22:22] <MonkeyDust> hidden  it means the package does not exist
[22:22] <hidden> oh right i'm using
[22:22] <MrJerome> hitsujiTMO: the server runs fine when I remove fastcgi section from lighttpd.conf
[22:23] <MrJerome> hitsujiTMO: something must have happened when I reinstalled PHP
[22:23] <MonkeyDust> !find libboost | hidden
[22:23] <hidden> archive.ubuntu.com MonkeyDust, was impossible to use it with 10.x before
[22:23] <hitsujiTMO> MrJerome: check to make sure the bin path is correct
[22:23] <nexus4> K1 more then one set of eyes here
[22:23] <hidden> whats the best source list for 12.04?
[22:23] <MonkeyDust> hidden  what's the outcome of    cat /etc/issue
[22:24] <hidden> cat /etc/issue
[22:24] <MrJerome> hitsujiTMO: How do I do that?
[22:24] <MonkeyDust> hidden  in a terminal screen
[22:24] <hidden> Ubuntu 11.10 :/
[22:24] <SteveBell> I'm having problems with setting up samba share for an ext hdd connected to ubuntu. this is what I'm using in the smb.conf file: http://pastebin.com/4hmB8Z4m
[22:24] <MonkeyDust> hidden  11.10 is dead, hence the error
[22:24] <hitsujiTMO> MrJerome: ls -l /usr/local/bin/php-cgi
[22:24] <hidden> i upgraded it from 10.something
[22:24] <hitsujiTMO> hidden, you need to upgrade to 12.04
[22:24] <SteveBell> I do see the drive appear when connecting from os x but when I click on the drive no content shows
[22:25] <hidden> hitsujiTMO, i'm sure i did
[22:25] <MonkeyDust> hidden  first upgrade to a supported release, then ask again
[22:25] <hidden> like i did 10>11>12
[22:25] <hitsujiTMO> hidden: your system says otherwise
[22:25] <MrJerome> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8025648 Dec 16 11:53 /usr/local/bin/php-cgi
[22:25] <hitsujiTMO> hidden, you ugrade 10.10 > 11.04 > 11.10 > 12.04
[22:26] <MonkeyDust> hidden  frsh install is faster, easier and cleaner (backup first)
[22:26] <hidden> thanks hitsujiTMO. MonkeyDust i would do a fresh install but already took 2-3 steps might aswell try finishing
[22:27] <hitsujiTMO> hidden. you just need 1 more upgrade
[22:28] <hitsujiTMO> MrJerome: what about: ls -l /tmp/php.socket
[22:30] <MrJerome> no such file but I feel like that would only be created on a php request
[22:31] <fbbdev> Hi! Is there a way to build programs on ubuntu 13.04 (glibc 2.17) and have them runnable with glibc 2.11? I know about building in chroot environments, but I'd like to avoid that if possible.
[22:31] <MrJerome> Ok here's something... I can't run php from command line because it says error while loading shared libraries
[22:32] <hitsujiTMO> MrJerome: o.O. and how did you install php?
[22:33] <MK42> #apt-get install php ?
[22:33] <MrJerome> from source.. it can't find libpq.so which is for postgresql
[22:33] <hitsujiTMO> MK42: well that's how you NOT install php :P
[22:33] <MrJerome> I think if I can get that fixed it will work
[22:33] <MK42> O.O.... !
[22:34] <LordNed> Hey all, I'm trying to install Xubuntu Desktop x64 v 12.10 onto a USB drive, and when I attempt to boot after install I get the "Gave up waiting for root device." - I've tried waiting and then typing exit but that doesn't work.
[22:34] <LordNed> I know this is technically the Ubuntu irc and not Xubuntu, but #xubuntu is pretty slow right now
[22:34] <Beldar> LordNed, Full install or just loading the ISO?
[22:35] <Calinou> LordNed, 12.10?
[22:35] <LordNed> Beldar, full install. I have two jump drives, one which I live booted XUbuntu to, and the other which I installed XUbuntu on.
[22:35] <Calinou> LordNed, it is fine to ask in #ubuntu for that... but why 12.10?
[22:35] <ke_> Is it possible to turn off the retarded scrollbars?
[22:35] <Calinou> it will soon be EOL
[22:35] <MK42> use version LTS ... 12.04 for example!
[22:36] <LordNed> Calinou, following a slightly old install guide, wanted to match version numbers with the guide in case anything went wrong :p
[22:36] <ke_> The little widget that appears at the window edge
[22:36] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: can you pastebin the grub.cfg?
[22:37] <Calinou> LordNed, you shouldn't do that though
[22:37] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, How would I get to it? I did run boot-repair from the Live version and this is the output from that: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6585714/
[22:37] <Calinou> MK42, no
[22:38] <MK42> Why not Calinou ? This not resolved tihs problem D but ... !
[22:38] <mikubuntu> oh, i see cheryl_c is still checked in to the channel
[22:38] <LordNed> Calinou, should I grab 13.10 and try that?
[22:38] <Calinou> it's better to install 13.10 instead of 12.10
[22:39] <Calinou> don't install 13.04 either, it'll be soon EOL
[22:40] <ch1pa2> Dec 16 14:39:04.751 [Error] Reading config failed--see warnings above.
[22:40] <ch1pa2> why did ubuntu install an older version?  of tor
[22:41] <ch1pa2> ?
[22:42] <LordNed> Also Xubuntu takes forever to install from one USB drive to another. I wish there was a faster way! (No CD drive :( )
[22:42] <k1l> !tor | ch1pa2
[22:44] <glitsj16> ke_: several options to do that http://askubuntu.com/questions/34214/how-do-i-disable-overlay-scrollbars
[22:44] <ch1pa2> i did this
[22:44] <TJ-> LordNed: If the system has plenty of RAM, create a tmpfs 'ram-disk' bigger than the USB target device, then copy into the ramdisk first, then write out from it. That allows the USB to move data more efficiently when multiple ports on the same bus are involved.
[22:44] <schproodle> \join #xfce
[22:44] <ch1pa2> apt-get install tor
[22:44] <LordNed> TJ-, only 2gb RAM on the machine, target USB device is 8gb! :p
[22:45] <k1l> ch1pa2: read again the bots message and follow the link in that message and then read what its about
[22:46] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: Not seing anything particularly wrong with the config. can you link the tutorial you used?
[22:46] <ke_> glitsj16: thanks
[22:47] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, the installation from the tutorial is just "Install Xubuntu to USB1 via Pen Drive Linux installer. Live Boot that and install it to the other drive and create 3 partitions for / (5500mb), Swap (315mb), and the rest for /home/"
[22:47] <LordNed> and then the other instructions are for installing some software after Xubuntu is running.
[22:48] <LordNed> It looks like it's trying to boot the right UUID too as root, so I'm not sure why it's having issues. About to go spend another 2 hours installing Xubuntu 13.10 to see if that helps.
[22:48] <MrJerome> hitsujiTMO: Thanks for the help today, I need to install PostgreSQL but I at least found the problem
[22:48] <LvMises> I was curious, I'm running 12.04 and I noticed I can't use my middle mouse key to scroll up and down pages in Firefox.  Is this an option that isn't available or do I need to install or modify something within firefox?
[22:49] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: anychance you can take a photo of the exact srror when it drops to initramfs?
[22:49] <LvMises> (when I press it, not actually scroll with the wheel)
[22:49] <hitsujiTMO> MrJerome: sweet. One of the many reasons why I always prefer to stick to the packages where possible :P
[22:50] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, http://hastebin.com/retowubamu.vhdl except with my uuid instead (I checked with blkid
[22:51] <LordNed> I've waited ~two minutes at that point, typed "exit" and hit enter and it just drops me right back there.
[22:52] <hitsujiTMO> do you get a list of drives with "ls"?
[22:53] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: one thing I can think of is that the usb host driver is not loaded into intramfs
[22:54] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, wouldn't it have to be loaded for blkid to be able to get the partitions off of the drive?
[22:54] <debfan> i have a question about running ubuntu on my HDD
[22:54] <debfan> is it okay if I don't install Windows on it?
[22:54] <Physicist> debfan: go on..
[22:54] <strikermgt> Hi, speak spanish?
[22:54] <k1l> !spanish | strikermgt
[22:54] <k1l> debfan: yes that is ok
[22:54] <debfan> or can i create a NTFS partition and leave it
[22:54] <debfan> and install ubuntu on another parition
[22:55] <hitsujiTMO> LordHavoc: It may be loaded on the live but might be missing from the install. It's certainly the case for 13.10 with some usb host controllers
[22:55] <k1l> !dualboot | debfan
[22:55] <hitsujiTMO> LordNav^^
[22:55] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed^^ even
[22:55] <strikermgt> Thanks c;
[22:56] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, I'm running blkid from inside intramfs. If that wast he issue, do you know what the fix would be?
[22:56] <khyron> quit
[22:56] <debfan> but, i might have windows on another HDD
[22:56] <debfan> so, i wouldn't need it on my 'ubuntu' drive
[22:57] <hitsujiTMO> ahh, if thats the case then its prob ok. what are you getting from "ls"
[22:57] <anotherjesse> With pubkey auth, I CAN ssh into a Saucy locked account (shadow has !) but I CANNOT ssh to a Precise box with locked account (fails with account locked errors).   - is there an option for SSH that allows ssh regardless of shadow password lock-ness?
[22:58] <TJ-> LordNed: I'm wondering if it might be a udev issue, since udev is reponsible for creating the /dev/disk/by-*/ symlinks ... is there anything at all under /dev/disk/* ?
[22:58] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, can I get back to you on that in two hours :p - formatted the wrong jump drive when I went to put 13.10 live installer on my other one.
[22:58] <LordNed>  So I have to install 13.10 now before I can resume trouble shooting, Hooray! :-/
[22:59] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: lol, np btw, this is the bug i'm reffering to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1238194
[22:59] <LordNed> It's not an encrypted filesystem if that helps
[23:01] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: the bug hasd notyhing to do with encrypted filesystems. It just gets noticed by those with encrypted filesystems as they need usb support in initramfs.
[23:01] <LordNed> Ah
[23:02] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: if you get the same problem let me know and I can talk you thru the fix if it is the driver problem
[23:02] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, thank you, very much appreciated!
[23:02] <TJ-> LordNed: Did you try adding "noapic" or "nolapic" to the kernel command-line in GRUB, and then booting? That can often solve issues with flakey interrupt controllers
[23:03] <LordNed> TJ-, I did not
[23:04] <TJ-> LordNed: When you've got the re-install done its worth a try, since what you're looking for is a reason that the device isn't being found by the kernel.
[23:05] <sha0_> i need to install radeonhd, can you help me'
[23:05] <sha0_> ?
[23:05] <sha0_> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Heathrow PRO [Radeon HD 7850M/8850M]
[23:06] <sha0_> intel 64bits
[23:06] <LordNed> TJ-, at this point I'm just kicking myself for not having a CD drive ;)
[23:07] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: its faster to install from usb than cd atleast
[23:07] <firmware92> hey guys im new to ubuntu, where is this windows dir [User Profile]\Local Settings\Application Data\Google\Chrome\User Data\Default\Cache  in ubuntu linux, i cant seem to find it
[23:08] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, I don't think so on these two particural USB drives, takes me over an hour without updates ::/
[23:09] <hitsujiTMO> firmware92: if you're looking for the eqivalent, cache dir, it's prob in ~/.cache
[23:09] <TJ-> LordNed: Are you doing a minimal or net-install? That is a good way to shorten the install time
[23:09] <LordNed> TJ-, just choosing "Install XUbuntu" - can I trigger a minimal install from a live disk?
[23:09] <hitsujiTMO> firmware92: yup ~/.cache/google-chrome/Default/Cache
[23:10] <TJ-> LordNed: The installer images for net install are separate
[23:10] <firmware92> hitsujiTMO: THANKS :)
[23:10] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: More than likely its slow write speeds on the target usb is the problem
[23:10] <LordNed> TJ-, ah
[23:13] <hitsujiTMO> you can only boot a minimal iso from cd not usb
[23:13] <hitsujiTMO> unless maybe you try it with DriveDroid
[23:15] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, yeah I saw that, gonna pass on it and just install a desktop one
[23:19] <sha0_> is radeonhd working on ubuntu?
[23:20] <hitsujiTMO> sha0_: what exactly is the problem? and what gpu do you have?
[23:21] <sha0_> hitsujiTMO: i cant use gnome becouse my 3d doesnt work
[23:21] <hitsujiTMO> sha0_: what exact gpu do you have?
[23:22] <sha0_> im using fbdev driver
[23:22] <sha0_> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Heathrow PRO [Radeon HD 7850M/8850M]
[23:22] <hitsujiTMO> sha0_: is it an 7k or 8k gpu that you have?
[23:22] <sha0_> i think this have 2 gpus
[23:22] <sha0_> which driver can i useÇ?
[23:23] <sha0_> instead of fbdev
[23:23] <sha0_> radeonhd is not maintained
[23:23] <sha0_> and latest versions dont use it
[23:23] <hitsujiTMO> you will prob need the fglrx. Radeon doesn't currently support 8k and has partial support for 7k.
[23:24] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, Whee, new problem! Tried to make a Live USB for Xubuntu 13.10 (instead of 12.20 I was on) and I get (initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live filesystem
[23:25] <hitsujiTMO> at initramfs, what do you get from lspci?
[23:25] <sha0_> hitsujiTMO: but there is a bug reported on fglrx, people are uninstalling fglrx :/
[23:25] <sha0_> i will try it
[23:25] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, /bin/sh: lspci: not found
[23:26] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: /usr/bin/lspci
[23:26] <LordNed> still not found (this is initramfs on a failed live boot btw, not an install)
[23:27] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: I've a feeling its the same issue. SO this is the sam usb you installed to right?
[23:27] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, No this is a second jump drive that I was able to live boot 12.20 from
[23:28] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: what are you getting for "ls"
[23:29] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, dev, scripts, conf, usr, cdrom, root, etc, lib, sys, casper.vars, var, sbin, lib64, proc, casper.log, run, bin, init, tmp
[23:29] <hitsujiTMO> so its mounting root at least. not usb host issue
[23:29] <LordNed> usr only has "share" and "lib" inside, which is why we can't find /usr/bin/lspci
[23:31] <beandog> What in the world did you do ..
[23:32] <LordNed> I don't know :D Should I try putting 12.20 back on instead of 13.10? :/
[23:32] <beandog> Either way you'll have to do a reinstall.
[23:32] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: main thing is to verify the iso first.
[23:32] <sha0_> restarting xorg ..
[23:32]  * beandog probably shouldn't jump in halfway
[23:33] <lickalott> lol ^
[23:33] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: can you md5sum the iso file https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[23:34] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: also, do you have an android phone?
[23:34] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, I do have android phone. Nexus 4 running Android 4.4
[23:34] <LordNed> Checking the MD5 now
[23:34] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed, if it's rooted you could try DroidDrive
[23:34] <LordNed> What's that do hitsujiTMO ?
[23:35] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: It will turn your phone into a virtual cd drive. Mounts the Iso in droiddrive and emulates a cd device over the usb
[23:35] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, Interesting. I'd have to re-root, just upgraded from 4.3 and lost root.
[23:36] <LordNed> Do you think it'd solve the issues with the 13.10 not booting live? (Still getting the md5 sum to check the iso)
[23:36] <LordNed> yup, md5sums match.
[23:36] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: possibly, if the iso checksum checks out ok.
[23:37] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: also have you tried disabling legacy usb support?
[23:37] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: or enabling it if its disabled
[23:38] <LordNed> I have not, I will go do that now.
[23:38] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: that sometimes causes problems depending on manufacturer
[23:38] <serg91mt> c
[23:38] <serg91mt> csj
[23:39] <serg91mt> culo
[23:39] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, heh, that's not going to work ;) - Both USB drives disappear from the boot menu with that disabled
[23:40] <hitsujiTMO> :P and, fast boot is disabled right?
[23:40] <shanahan> i can't view a webpage i made locally using chrome, like it won't show index.html correctly. it will with firefox though
[23:40] <shanahan> it's webGL stuff, three.js
[23:42] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, correct. Gah, complications!
[23:42] <koell> shanahan: which crhome version?
[23:42] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: only other thing i can think of is dodgy usb
[23:42] <LordNed> Maybe it's time for DroidDrive
[23:43] <shanahan> koell, Version 31.0.1650.63
[23:43] <koell> shanahan: so what do u see? just a blank page?
[23:43] <hitsujiTMO> shanahan: set security.fileuri.strict_origin_policy to false
[23:44] <shanahan> koell,  i tried this flag  "google-chrome index.html --allow-file-access-from-files"  and it still doesn't work, no i see the basics of my page
[23:44] <Ice_Strike> I am getting mount error(22): Invalid argument when I execute: sudo mount -t cifs -o username=xxxx,password=xxx,noperms,uid=nobody,gid=users  //192.168.1.15/Media /mnt/Media
[23:44] <shanahan> hitsujiTMO, what url in chrome is that again? i used to know it i know what ur talking about
[23:45] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, got into GRUB on the live-boot CD by enabling UEFI something... seeing if i can launch the "Try Ubuntu" option... failing that I'll try the "install Xubuntu" one :p
[23:45] <hitsujiTMO> shanahan: about:config
[23:45] <AvengerLives> about:config
[23:45] <shanahan> hitsujiTMO, webpage not available... wtf
[23:46] <shanahan> i am the only user
[23:46] <hitsujiTMO> o.O soryy, its changed since i've last had to did in
[23:46] <LordNed> Nope, full circle back. Grr.
[23:46] <koell> shanahan: for such future heavy things i often use chrome nightly builds as a standalone browser. just set there any flag
[23:49] <Stealthys> quick one: packages.ubuntu.com will it be up soon does anyone know? or is there an alternate somewhere?
[23:50] <hitsujiTMO> shanahan: try loading chrom with --disable-web-security
[23:51] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, do you think another Linux flavor other than Xubuntu might give me better results?
[23:52] <firmware92> command line question, when specifying an output file, i want the name to be name then the time it was outputed, is there a easy way to do this, i googled it and i dont think im searhing for the right thing
[23:52] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: you'll certainly get different results with another flavour
[23:52] <MonkeyDust> Stealthys  https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/
[23:52] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, I'm looking for a lightweight one to eventually run headless
[23:52] <LordNed> Suggestions on which flavor? :)
[23:53] <TJ-> firmware92: echo "my file contents" > $(date +%Y%m%d-%H%M%S).dat" is probably what you want
[23:54] <Stealthys> MonkeyDust: thanks that will work :)
[23:54] <AvengerLives> LordNed what will your headless system serve?
[23:54] <hitsujiTMO> firmware92: echo "moo" > "cow-`date %T`.txt"
[23:54] <LordNed> AvengerLives, It's for a mining rig, so it needs to have a GUI front end (for graphics drivers)
[23:54] <tux31> what is minimum requirement for ubuntu 12,04
[23:55] <AvengerLives> Have you considered Debian?
[23:55] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: Debian might be worth a try.
[23:55] <LordNed> AvengerLives, I'll take anything that'll install/run off of an 8gb usb drive :)
[23:55] <AvengerLives> you can load 7.2 Standard and load the X enviroment of your choice
[23:55] <xangua> !requirements | tux31
[23:56] <AvengerLives> For backend machines I have yet to be disappointed.
[23:56] <AvengerLives> also, relatively seemless repository crossover with Ubuntu.
[23:57] <AvengerLives> that is less you concern, but a good comfort
[23:57] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, I'm going to give Xubuntu 12.20 another shot and trying noapic
[23:58] <LordNed> and then I'll go give Debian a shot.
[23:58] <AvengerLives> Good luck
[23:58] <firmware92> hitsujiTMO: dose it matter if its a script? the line is going to be going as follows avconv -i ./download ~/Music/untitled/"download-`date %T`.flac"
[23:58] <TJ-> firmware92: "date %T" is a syntax error
[23:59] <firmware92> TJ- how would you recommend to do it?