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ahoneybunI saw she posted it on trello did not know if it was for sure or not00:02
ahoneybunthat is excellent news00:07
Riddellso I'd say you can start to move the docs over any time you want00:09
ahoneybunwhat is the location we can move them>00:10
ahoneybunis there a set url? or do we make it 00:13
Riddellbest check with valorie 00:17
Riddellbut based on amarok being at http://userbase.kde.org/Amarok/Manual I'd say http://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu00:17
ahoneybunwell I made one on KubuntuDocs00:25
ahoneybundarn00:25
ahoneybunI did not save yet00:26
ahoneybunand make a subpage00:26
ahoneybunRiddell: http://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu/Docs?00:29
RiddellI don't think there's any need for the /Docs on it, docs are the only thing on that site00:34
ahoneybuntrue00:35
ahoneybunhttp://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu00:36
Riddelllovely00:39
ahoneybunI love the font00:39
RiddellOxygen font?00:40
ahoneybunyea00:40
ahoneybunomg mediawiki is so much better00:41
ahoneybunso much more tools00:42
ahoneybunI have the main page and the welcome page pretty much carried over00:44
Riddell:)00:47
ahoneybunomg you can edit piece by piece00:48
Riddell\o/00:49
ahoneybunamazing00:49
ahoneybunwell00:49
ahoneybungot the main page, welcome, and basic00:50
ahoneybunI have messed with KDE Connect and can confirm it works on my HTC One on CyanogenMod which is cool00:53
Riddellyay00:59
ahoneybunyep pretty sweet01:04
ahoneybunI love that under construction sign lol01:05
Riddelloh dear, I don't think I'll blog this e-mail http://pastebin.kde.org/px1njjo3301:06
apacheloggeryou do need a better spam filter :P01:07
apacheloggeragateau: what did you want to use discourse for? mailing list replacement?01:10
* ahoneybun is very excited about mediawiki now01:30
ahoneybunhow do you do the include thing on this page https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/Basic on mediawiki?01:55
ahoneybunRiddell: http://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu/Advanced I am proud of this :)02:45
manchicken_Howdy all03:18
manchicken_Krazy2 doesn't ignore metadata created by cmake. That's weird.03:27
valorieooooo, ahoneybun is on fire!05:59
valoriemakes me so happy that this all worked out05:59
soeegood morning07:07
agateauapachelogger: yes discourse would be a nice alternative to mailing lists I think07:37
lordievaderGood morning.08:38
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Riddelljose: how did you get on?10:53
apacheloggeragateau: as all rails software... terrible to get running -.-11:09
jussiBTW all, Ive ordered a bunch of new shirts, including female models. just waiting for them to now arrive. 11:28
Riddelljussi: same design?11:29
jussiRiddell: exactly the same, yes. 11:30
Riddellit is a classic :)11:30
jussiand it costs us less because we dont have to pay the 40€ embroidery design fee.11:32
jussiso thats a nice minor +11:32
apacheloggeroh how I hate moinmoin11:45
apacheloggerRiddell: did you add kcm-whoopsie to the seed?11:45
apacheloggerRiddell: and do we create a release wiki page thingy for alpha?11:46
Riddellre11:49
Riddellyes but virtualbox is making my computer too slow to check it's on there11:50
Riddellno not yet11:50
apacheloggerRiddell: wiki page only for >=beta then I asume?11:50
QuintasanRiddell: Got the business cards. They're awesome11:52
QuintasanI think I messed up country code but nothing you can't fix with a pen11:53
Riddellapachelogger: we do want one for alphas, whoopsie and 4.12 are nice additions11:56
RiddellQuintasan: country code?11:56
apacheloggerRiddell: going to create that in a bit then11:57
QuintasanRiddell: +44 instead +48 12:01
Quintasaninstead of*12:02
Riddelloh, meh, sorry12:09
Riddellapachelogger: well good news is kde-config-whoopsie is installed on the image12:39
Riddellbad news is that while kde loads fine on virtualbox on a live system it doesn't12:39
apachelogger:O12:40
Riddellubiquity gives an error http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/ubiquity.log12:40
apacheloggerRiddell: after install?12:40
apachelogger^ try kubuntu didn't work for me in vbox either12:40
Riddellapachelogger: no after you select to Try Kubuntu at the first screen12:40
Riddellapachelogger: same as you had yesterday?12:40
apacheloggerdidn't look into it12:40
apacheloggeroho12:41
apacheloggerhttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/TrustyTahr/Alpha1/Kubuntu12:41
apacheloggerwe have a page already12:41
apacheloggerhow magical12:41
Riddellapachelogger: but you were left with blank screen with a mouse cursor after Try Kubuntu?12:41
apacheloggerRiddell: yep12:41
Riddellthat skeat is a useful sort12:41
apacheloggerindeed12:42
RiddellI wonder if ubiquity crashes because it can't find gsettings12:42
Riddellxnox: is that likely? ↑12:42
BluesKaj'Morning folks12:44
Riddellhmm it shouldn't get to that bit of code12:44
agateauapachelogger: excuses! :)12:45
xnoxRiddell: no.12:46
Riddellxnox: why not?12:47
xnoxRiddell: unless someone was overjealous with refactoring =)12:48
xnoxis it not initialised to empty list. i was sure gsettings are only set in "gtk_ui" and not "kde_ui"12:48
xnoxdid you start using "gtk_ui"?! =)12:48
Riddellxnox: nope, and gtk_ui is on the image so I agree I see no way it should get to that part of code12:58
Riddellxnox: nope, and gtk_ui is NOT on the image so I agree I see no way it should get to that part of code12:58
Riddellbut if I read that log file correct that's what seems to happen12:58
Riddellhard to debug ubiquity-dm :(12:59
Riddellis it possible to just run it from the live system manually?12:59
apacheloggerstop --no-wait lightdm; stop ubiquity; pkill -9 X; start ubiquity13:02
apacheloggeroff the top of my head13:02
Riddellyou're a genius13:07
apacheloggerthat's xnox' command, not mine :P13:22
BluesKajinstalled from the ninjas trusty ppa yesterday, but kde version still reads: Platform Version 4.11.4, any ideas? Had to regress the kernel upgrade a few days ago due to dependency problems13:27
BluesKajrunning 3.12.0-5-generic13:28
soeeRiddell, can toy send me saucy ninjas ppa? i would like to upgrade here at work13:38
soeeBluesKaj, maybe you have the ppa i sent you last time ?13:40
BluesKajsoee, yes i have in the sources.list 13:42
BluesKajit13:42
soeeent me pls on prv 13:42
soee*send13:42
Riddellsent13:53
Riddellthe ubiquity problem was a slight red herring, that code is just code that's run if the system fails to load, the question is what's failing to load and why13:54
Riddellwho can spot why kde plasma doesn't start? http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/log/14:21
Riddellmust be somewhere in those logs14:21
apacheloggerRiddell: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/TrustyTahr/Alpha1/Kubuntu did I forget anything?14:22
Riddellapachelogger: looking good14:22
shadeslayer_ You don't have permission to access /~jr/tmp/log/syslog on this server.14:23
apacheloggerRiddell: also regarding the plasma problem... does startkde even get called?14:23
shadeslayer_[+2.79s] DEBUG: Launching process 4407: /usr/bin/X -core :1 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:1 -nolisten tcp vt7 -novtswitch14:23
shadeslayer_[+5.15s] DEBUG: Process 4407 terminated with signal 614:23
Riddellshadeslayer_: try now14:23
shadeslayer_your X be dying14:23
Riddellpoor X14:23
shadeslayer_(EE) no screens found(EE) 14:24
shadeslayer_xD14:24
BluesKaj_apachelogger, the download image link 404s14:30
BluesKaj_on the kubuntu wiki14:31
shadeslayer_tentative link14:31
BluesKaj_very tentative :)14:31
shadeslayer_apachelogger: "Kubuntu Desktop    Black screen after upgrade if color correction was enabled (KDE 321217) "14:32
ubottuKDE bug 321217 in colorcorrection "Kwin returns black screen on gl > 1.2" [Grave,Reopened] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32121714:32
BluesKaj_think I need to reinstall trusty 14:32
shadeslayer_apachelogger: can be dropped14:32
soeeRiddell, upgraded to 4.12 from 4.11.97 on saucy here at work, also works perfect14:35
Riddellawooga14:36
Riddellstill need someone to test precise I think14:36
apacheloggershadeslayer_: we call it a wiki14:46
* shadeslayer_ is drugged14:46
shadeslayer_can barely keep my eyes open14:46
Riddelldrugged? that's not good14:50
shadeslayer_was under the weather the last few days14:51
shadeslayer_and I had a dose of cough syrup post lunch, and the good news is that I'm not tripping like yesterday, but more sleepy14:51
Riddellwell ubuntu desktop start up fine, meh15:02
Riddellso it's not X15:02
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1259577] Security: XML Entity Expansion Denial of Service @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1259577 (by Jonathan Riddell)15:02
Riddellor if it is there's something we're not doing that ubuntu is15:02
shadeslayer_Riddell: this is on x8615:04
shadeslayer_?15:04
Riddellamd6415:05
Riddellshadeslayer_: 15:05
shadeslayer_downloading15:05
marcozHi15:07
marcozyesterday appeared on the kubuntu backports ppa15:07
marcozkde-l10n-de (4:4.12.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu13.10~ppa1) saucy15:07
marcozis this intended now intended for the backport ppa ?15:08
Riddelllucky you :)15:08
marcozyou meant, all my xmas wishes will come true as well15:09
marcozgreat15:09
marcoz;-)15:09
shadeslayer_apachelogger: is the language KCM broken for you15:54
shadeslayer_in trusty15:54
shadeslayer_It just hangs when I hit the -> button to add Spanish from Available Languages to Preferred Languages15:56
shadeslayer_aha QDBusConnection: error: could not send message to service "org.kubuntu.qaptworker2" path "Activation of org.kubuntu.qaptworker2 timed out" interface "org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" member "GetAll": Invalid object path: Activation of org.kubuntu.qaptworker2 timed out15:57
shadeslayer_my computer is broken15:58
Riddellshadeslayer_: do you get a live session that works?16:01
shadeslayer_in a VBox, yes16:01
shadeslayer_kubotu: newversion muon 2.1.216:02
Riddellyeah me too16:02
Riddellooh? new muon?16:02
kubotuhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/126181216:02
shadeslayer_Riddell: yeah16:03
shadeslayer_waiting for sysadmins to upload it16:03
Riddellshadeslayer_: did you try to boot on a hardware system?17:01
shadeslayer_Riddell: nope17:02
shadeslayer_can do that tonight17:02
jussishadeslayer_: how did you go with the tablet? 17:15
shadeslayer_jussi: Haven't had the time to look around, I doubt I will, I can send over to you in Jan17:22
jussishadeslayer_: sure, I can give it a good go :=)17:22
shadeslayer_awesome17:22
jussiIts nice, Ive a bunch of developers here where I work that I can ask for help :)17:22
shadeslayer_yeah, that'd be awesome17:23
shadeslayer_maybe they'll have an ace up their sleeves17:23
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Riddellapachelogger: um "Kubuntu 11.10 Mobile Devices Sneak Peak" ?17:46
apacheloggerRiddell: ask dat planet17:50
shadeslayerapachelogger is being retro17:53
Riddellyou know I think it is this gsettings bit in ubiquity that's causing the problem18:03
RiddellI'm going to upload a ubiquity with it fixed to be run  if frontend==gtk18:04
Riddellshadeslayer: new ubiquity uploaded, I'm going out in a bit, please rebuild images and test when it's in the archive18:30
shadeslayerwill do18:30
* shadeslayer is still unsure how to determine which driver is active on a user's system18:31
shadeslayermanchicken: ping19:09
shadeslayermanchicken: do you know if libqapt has an api to search files19:09
shadeslayerlike apt-file search19:09
manchickenpong19:15
manchickenTo search sources files or .deb files?19:16
shadeslayer.deb files19:18
shadeslayerlike apt-file search19:18
manchickenThere is QApt::DebFile::fileList which will give you the files in a package19:23
manchickenshadeslayer: There is a way… but it is awful.19:42
manchickenshadeslayer: You would essentially use QApt::Cache, open the cache, then iterate through each deb file to look through its manifest.19:46
Noskcajshadeslayer: Since you did the ktp updates most recently, would you mind fakesyncing most of them? Debian has little to no difference on just about all19:46
manchickenshadeslayer: But at that point you'd be using apt-pkg, which qapt merely exposes to you.19:47
manchickenshadeslayer: That might be what apt-file is doing...19:48
NoskcajYou can sync ktp-send-file, ktp-kded-integration-module (bug 1212828), ktp-filetransfer-handler (bug 1212831), probably ktp-desktop-applets, and probably many more.19:54
ubottubug 1212828 in ktp-kded-integration-module (Ubuntu) "Sync ktp-kded-integration-module 0.6.3-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121282819:54
ubottubug 1212831 in ktp-filetransfer-handler (Ubuntu) "Sync ktp-filetransfer-handler 0.6.3-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/121283119:54
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Riddelloh yes23:54
Riddelloh baby23:54
Riddellthe images are working23:54
Riddellit feels good23:54
shadeslayerRiddell: awesome :)23:56
shadeslayerI keep forgetting that Alpha is upon us23:57
soee_hi :)23:58
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