[00:02] <ahoneybun> I saw she posted it on trello did not know if it was for sure or not
[00:07] <ahoneybun> that is excellent news
[00:09] <Riddell> so I'd say you can start to move the docs over any time you want
[00:10] <ahoneybun> what is the location we can move them>
[00:13] <ahoneybun> is there a set url? or do we make it 
[00:17] <Riddell> best check with valorie 
[00:17] <Riddell> but based on amarok being at http://userbase.kde.org/Amarok/Manual I'd say http://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu
[00:25] <ahoneybun> well I made one on KubuntuDocs
[00:25] <ahoneybun> darn
[00:26] <ahoneybun> I did not save yet
[00:26] <ahoneybun> and make a subpage
[00:29] <ahoneybun> Riddell: http://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu/Docs?
[00:34] <Riddell> I don't think there's any need for the /Docs on it, docs are the only thing on that site
[00:35] <ahoneybun> true
[00:36] <ahoneybun> http://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu
[00:39] <Riddell> lovely
[00:39] <ahoneybun> I love the font
[00:40] <Riddell> Oxygen font?
[00:40] <ahoneybun> yea
[00:41] <ahoneybun> omg mediawiki is so much better
[00:42] <ahoneybun> so much more tools
[00:44] <ahoneybun> I have the main page and the welcome page pretty much carried over
[00:47] <Riddell> :)
[00:48] <ahoneybun> omg you can edit piece by piece
[00:49] <Riddell> \o/
[00:49] <ahoneybun> amazing
[00:49] <ahoneybun> well
[00:50] <ahoneybun> got the main page, welcome, and basic
[00:53] <ahoneybun> I have messed with KDE Connect and can confirm it works on my HTC One on CyanogenMod which is cool
[00:59] <Riddell> yay
[01:04] <ahoneybun> yep pretty sweet
[01:05] <ahoneybun> I love that under construction sign lol
[01:06] <Riddell> oh dear, I don't think I'll blog this e-mail http://pastebin.kde.org/px1njjo33
[01:07] <apachelogger> you do need a better spam filter :P
[01:10] <apachelogger> agateau: what did you want to use discourse for? mailing list replacement?
[01:30]  * ahoneybun is very excited about mediawiki now
[01:55] <ahoneybun> how do you do the include thing on this page https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/Basic on mediawiki?
[02:45] <ahoneybun> Riddell: http://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu/Advanced I am proud of this :)
[03:18] <manchicken_> Howdy all
[03:27] <manchicken_> Krazy2 doesn't ignore metadata created by cmake. That's weird.
[05:59] <valorie> ooooo, ahoneybun is on fire!
[05:59] <valorie> makes me so happy that this all worked out
[07:07] <soee> good morning
[07:37] <agateau> apachelogger: yes discourse would be a nice alternative to mailing lists I think
[08:38] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:53] <Riddell> jose: how did you get on?
[11:09] <apachelogger> agateau: as all rails software... terrible to get running -.-
[11:28] <jussi> BTW all, Ive ordered a bunch of new shirts, including female models. just waiting for them to now arrive. 
[11:29] <Riddell> jussi: same design?
[11:30] <jussi> Riddell: exactly the same, yes. 
[11:30] <Riddell> it is a classic :)
[11:32] <jussi> and it costs us less because we dont have to pay the 40€ embroidery design fee.
[11:32] <jussi> so thats a nice minor +
[11:45] <apachelogger> oh how I hate moinmoin
[11:45] <apachelogger> Riddell: did you add kcm-whoopsie to the seed?
[11:46] <apachelogger> Riddell: and do we create a release wiki page thingy for alpha?
[11:49] <Riddell> re
[11:50] <Riddell> yes but virtualbox is making my computer too slow to check it's on there
[11:50] <Riddell> no not yet
[11:50] <apachelogger> Riddell: wiki page only for >=beta then I asume?
[11:52] <Quintasan> Riddell: Got the business cards. They're awesome
[11:53] <Quintasan> I think I messed up country code but nothing you can't fix with a pen
[11:56] <Riddell> apachelogger: we do want one for alphas, whoopsie and 4.12 are nice additions
[11:56] <Riddell> Quintasan: country code?
[11:57] <apachelogger> Riddell: going to create that in a bit then
[12:01] <Quintasan> Riddell: +44 instead +48 
[12:02] <Quintasan> instead of*
[12:09] <Riddell> oh, meh, sorry
[12:39] <Riddell> apachelogger: well good news is kde-config-whoopsie is installed on the image
[12:39] <Riddell> bad news is that while kde loads fine on virtualbox on a live system it doesn't
[12:40] <apachelogger> :O
[12:40] <Riddell> ubiquity gives an error http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/ubiquity.log
[12:40] <apachelogger> Riddell: after install?
[12:40] <apachelogger> ^ try kubuntu didn't work for me in vbox either
[12:40] <Riddell> apachelogger: no after you select to Try Kubuntu at the first screen
[12:40] <Riddell> apachelogger: same as you had yesterday?
[12:40] <apachelogger> didn't look into it
[12:41] <apachelogger> oho
[12:41] <apachelogger> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/TrustyTahr/Alpha1/Kubuntu
[12:41] <apachelogger> we have a page already
[12:41] <apachelogger> how magical
[12:41] <Riddell> apachelogger: but you were left with blank screen with a mouse cursor after Try Kubuntu?
[12:41] <apachelogger> Riddell: yep
[12:41] <Riddell> that skeat is a useful sort
[12:42] <apachelogger> indeed
[12:42] <Riddell> I wonder if ubiquity crashes because it can't find gsettings
[12:42] <Riddell> xnox: is that likely? ↑
[12:44] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:44] <Riddell> hmm it shouldn't get to that bit of code
[12:45] <agateau> apachelogger: excuses! :)
[12:46] <xnox> Riddell: no.
[12:47] <Riddell> xnox: why not?
[12:48] <xnox> Riddell: unless someone was overjealous with refactoring =)
[12:48] <xnox> is it not initialised to empty list. i was sure gsettings are only set in "gtk_ui" and not "kde_ui"
[12:48] <xnox> did you start using "gtk_ui"?! =)
[12:58] <Riddell> xnox: nope, and gtk_ui is on the image so I agree I see no way it should get to that part of code
[12:58] <Riddell> xnox: nope, and gtk_ui is NOT on the image so I agree I see no way it should get to that part of code
[12:58] <Riddell> but if I read that log file correct that's what seems to happen
[12:59] <Riddell> hard to debug ubiquity-dm :(
[12:59] <Riddell> is it possible to just run it from the live system manually?
[13:02] <apachelogger> stop --no-wait lightdm; stop ubiquity; pkill -9 X; start ubiquity
[13:02] <apachelogger> off the top of my head
[13:07] <Riddell> you're a genius
[13:22] <apachelogger> that's xnox' command, not mine :P
[13:27] <BluesKaj> installed from the ninjas trusty ppa yesterday, but kde version still reads: Platform Version 4.11.4, any ideas? Had to regress the kernel upgrade a few days ago due to dependency problems
[13:28] <BluesKaj> running 3.12.0-5-generic
[13:38] <soee> Riddell, can toy send me saucy ninjas ppa? i would like to upgrade here at work
[13:40] <soee> BluesKaj, maybe you have the ppa i sent you last time ?
[13:42] <BluesKaj> soee, yes i have in the sources.list 
[13:42] <BluesKaj> it
[13:42] <soee> ent me pls on prv 
[13:42] <soee> *send
[13:53] <Riddell> sent
[13:54] <Riddell> the ubiquity problem was a slight red herring, that code is just code that's run if the system fails to load, the question is what's failing to load and why
[14:21] <Riddell> who can spot why kde plasma doesn't start? http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/log/
[14:21] <Riddell> must be somewhere in those logs
[14:22] <apachelogger> Riddell: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/TrustyTahr/Alpha1/Kubuntu did I forget anything?
[14:22] <Riddell> apachelogger: looking good
[14:23] <shadeslayer_>  You don't have permission to access /~jr/tmp/log/syslog on this server.
[14:23] <apachelogger> Riddell: also regarding the plasma problem... does startkde even get called?
[14:23] <shadeslayer_> [+2.79s] DEBUG: Launching process 4407: /usr/bin/X -core :1 -auth /var/run/lightdm/root/:1 -nolisten tcp vt7 -novtswitch
[14:23] <shadeslayer_> [+5.15s] DEBUG: Process 4407 terminated with signal 6
[14:23] <Riddell> shadeslayer_: try now
[14:23] <shadeslayer_> your X be dying
[14:23] <Riddell> poor X
[14:24] <shadeslayer_> (EE) no screens found(EE) 
[14:24] <shadeslayer_> xD
[14:30] <BluesKaj_> apachelogger, the download image link 404s
[14:31] <BluesKaj_> on the kubuntu wiki
[14:31] <shadeslayer_> tentative link
[14:31] <BluesKaj_> very tentative :)
[14:32] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: "Kubuntu Desktop    Black screen after upgrade if color correction was enabled (KDE 321217) "
[14:32] <BluesKaj_> think I need to reinstall trusty 
[14:32] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: can be dropped
[14:35] <soee> Riddell, upgraded to 4.12 from 4.11.97 on saucy here at work, also works perfect
[14:36] <Riddell> awooga
[14:36] <Riddell> still need someone to test precise I think
[14:46] <apachelogger> shadeslayer_: we call it a wiki
[14:46]  * shadeslayer_ is drugged
[14:46] <shadeslayer_> can barely keep my eyes open
[14:50] <Riddell> drugged? that's not good
[14:51] <shadeslayer_> was under the weather the last few days
[14:51] <shadeslayer_> and I had a dose of cough syrup post lunch, and the good news is that I'm not tripping like yesterday, but more sleepy
[15:02] <Riddell> well ubuntu desktop start up fine, meh
[15:02] <Riddell> so it's not X
[15:02] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1259577] Security: XML Entity Expansion Denial of Service @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1259577 (by Jonathan Riddell)
[15:02] <Riddell> or if it is there's something we're not doing that ubuntu is
[15:04] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: this is on x86
[15:04] <shadeslayer_> ?
[15:05] <Riddell> amd64
[15:05] <Riddell> shadeslayer_: 
[15:05] <shadeslayer_> downloading
[15:07] <marcoz> Hi
[15:07] <marcoz> yesterday appeared on the kubuntu backports ppa
[15:07] <marcoz> kde-l10n-de (4:4.12.0-0ubuntu1~ubuntu13.10~ppa1) saucy
[15:08] <marcoz> is this intended now intended for the backport ppa ?
[15:08] <Riddell> lucky you :)
[15:09] <marcoz> you meant, all my xmas wishes will come true as well
[15:09] <marcoz> great
[15:09] <marcoz> ;-)
[15:54] <shadeslayer_> apachelogger: is the language KCM broken for you
[15:54] <shadeslayer_> in trusty
[15:56] <shadeslayer_> It just hangs when I hit the -> button to add Spanish from Available Languages to Preferred Languages
[15:57] <shadeslayer_> aha QDBusConnection: error: could not send message to service "org.kubuntu.qaptworker2" path "Activation of org.kubuntu.qaptworker2 timed out" interface "org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" member "GetAll": Invalid object path: Activation of org.kubuntu.qaptworker2 timed out
[15:58] <shadeslayer_> my computer is broken
[16:01] <Riddell> shadeslayer_: do you get a live session that works?
[16:01] <shadeslayer_> in a VBox, yes
[16:02] <shadeslayer_> kubotu: newversion muon 2.1.2
[16:02] <Riddell> yeah me too
[16:02] <Riddell> ooh? new muon?
[16:02] <kubotu> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1261812
[16:03] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: yeah
[16:03] <shadeslayer_> waiting for sysadmins to upload it
[17:01] <Riddell> shadeslayer_: did you try to boot on a hardware system?
[17:02] <shadeslayer_> Riddell: nope
[17:02] <shadeslayer_> can do that tonight
[17:15] <jussi> shadeslayer_: how did you go with the tablet? 
[17:22] <shadeslayer_> jussi: Haven't had the time to look around, I doubt I will, I can send over to you in Jan
[17:22] <jussi> shadeslayer_: sure, I can give it a good go :=)
[17:22] <shadeslayer_> awesome
[17:22] <jussi> Its nice, Ive a bunch of developers here where I work that I can ask for help :)
[17:23] <shadeslayer_> yeah, that'd be awesome
[17:23] <shadeslayer_> maybe they'll have an ace up their sleeves
[17:46] <Riddell> apachelogger: um "Kubuntu 11.10 Mobile Devices Sneak Peak" ?
[17:50] <apachelogger> Riddell: ask dat planet
[17:53] <shadeslayer> apachelogger is being retro
[18:03] <Riddell> you know I think it is this gsettings bit in ubiquity that's causing the problem
[18:04] <Riddell> I'm going to upload a ubiquity with it fixed to be run  if frontend==gtk
[18:30] <Riddell> shadeslayer: new ubiquity uploaded, I'm going out in a bit, please rebuild images and test when it's in the archive
[18:30] <shadeslayer> will do
[18:31]  * shadeslayer is still unsure how to determine which driver is active on a user's system
[19:09] <shadeslayer> manchicken: ping
[19:09] <shadeslayer> manchicken: do you know if libqapt has an api to search files
[19:09] <shadeslayer> like apt-file search
[19:15] <manchicken> pong
[19:16] <manchicken> To search sources files or .deb files?
[19:18] <shadeslayer> .deb files
[19:18] <shadeslayer> like apt-file search
[19:23] <manchicken> There is QApt::DebFile::fileList which will give you the files in a package
[19:42] <manchicken> shadeslayer: There is a way… but it is awful.
[19:46] <manchicken> shadeslayer: You would essentially use QApt::Cache, open the cache, then iterate through each deb file to look through its manifest.
[19:46] <Noskcaj> shadeslayer: Since you did the ktp updates most recently, would you mind fakesyncing most of them? Debian has little to no difference on just about all
[19:47] <manchicken> shadeslayer: But at that point you'd be using apt-pkg, which qapt merely exposes to you.
[19:48] <manchicken> shadeslayer: That might be what apt-file is doing...
[19:54] <Noskcaj> You can sync ktp-send-file, ktp-kded-integration-module (bug 1212828), ktp-filetransfer-handler (bug 1212831), probably ktp-desktop-applets, and probably many more.
[23:54] <Riddell> oh yes
[23:54] <Riddell> oh baby
[23:54] <Riddell> the images are working
[23:54] <Riddell> it feels good
[23:56] <shadeslayer> Riddell: awesome :)
[23:57] <shadeslayer> I keep forgetting that Alpha is upon us
[23:58] <soee_> hi :)