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dholbachgood morning08:00
owlhi08:51
owlhow to solve, package-contains-info-dir-file usr/share/info/dir.gz08:52
owllintian08:52
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josePHPagodahello everyone!21:13
josePHPagodaI'm wondering how I would go about proposing a package?21:13
tumbleweedjosePHPagoda: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html#submitting-for-inclusion21:15
TheLordOfTimeisn't it always suggested to go the Debian route first so it gets synced into Ubuntu?21:15
josePHPagodathis isn't really new software though, more an update for a currently broken package included in 13.1021:15
TheLordOfTime(assuming a new package)21:15
josePHPagoda(also broken in 13.04)21:15
josePHPagodaeven though upstream has been fixed for over a year21:16
josePHPagodabut I'd rather not compile from scratch21:16
TheLordOfTimemind if i ask what package?21:16
TheLordOfTime(curious)21:16
josePHPagodait's the wacom drivers package21:17
josePHPagodathey work with the stylus, but are broken when trying to use the wacom mouse (no clicking registers)21:17
josePHPagodahttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=213948021:19
josePHPagodadescribes the issue21:19
josePHPagodathe solution proposed is to compile from scratch, which isn't great for this sort of thing21:20
TheLordOfTimeum...21:20
TheLordOfTimei'm not certain you *can* submit a replacement package for 13.04 and 13.1921:20
TheLordOfTime13.10*21:20
* TheLordOfTime isn't a MOTU, but i think there's regulations around how things're updated for 13.04 and 13.1021:20
Noskcaj10josePHPagoda, Is this just an update or a complete new package?21:20
TheLordOfTimei know that if Trusty is sane, they've got the latest thing from Debian21:20
josePHPagodait's an update21:21
Noskcaj10If it's minor we could SRU it, but either way it needs to be working in trusty first21:21
josePHPagodathere was a PPA, but it looks like 13.10 doesn't see any benefit21:21
Noskcaj10what's the package name?21:21
TheLordOfTimejosePHPagoda, what's the actual package name(s), and have you tested Trusty to see if it works?21:21
TheLordOfTimewhoopsies, Noskcaj10 said that xD21:21
* TheLordOfTime slaps self21:21
josePHPagodaI haven't tested in trusty21:21
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josePHPagodai only have a single production machine21:21
josePHPagodacan't sacrifice the other21:21
josePHPagodaerr21:22
josePHPagodacan't sacrifice it to run the other version of Ubuntu21:22
josePHPagodalet me see if I can find the package name21:22
TheLordOfTimeNoskcaj, couldn't he in theory test from the live environment to see if it works?21:22
TheLordOfTime(for trusty)21:22
NoskcajTheLordOfTime, I assume so21:22
TheLordOfTime... oh that reminds me I'm missing a Trusty environment to test.21:22
* TheLordOfTime grabs a copy of latest21:23
josePHPagodaxf86-input-wacom21:23
TheLordOfTimejosePHPagoda, you could in theory boot to a LiveUSB or LiveCD and see if it works.21:23
josePHPagodaI _think_21:23
TheLordOfTimeX.Org X Server -- Wacom Input Driver21:23
TheLordOfTime(from Debian packages.qa - http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xf86-input-wacom.html)21:23
josePHPagodaTheLordOfTime: yeah21:23
josePHPagodawould that help at all if I did that?21:23
TheLordOfTimelooks like there were updates in the past couple months in Debian21:24
josePHPagodaso this could be a case of debian just being a little slow to pull from upstream?21:24
TheLordOfTimetrusty looks like it has that21:24
TheLordOfTimejosePHPagoda, or, a case of Debian being slow, but yes, it looks to be in Trusty21:24
josePHPagodai hope it's fixed21:25
josePHPagodai haven't been able to use the mouse on my tablet for over a year :(21:25
TheLordOfTimejosePHPagoda, as i said, test Trusty, boot to a LiveUSB/LiveCD and test it21:25
TheLordOfTimethat *may* be able ot be used for testing purposes21:25
josePHPagodait'd be suitable for limited testing21:26
NoskcajDoes http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=721916 or http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=675802 sound like your issue?21:26
josePHPagodai coul dsee if the total breakage is usable21:26
ubottuDebian bug 721916 in xserver-xorg-input-wacom "xserver-xorg-input-wacom: the version of wacom driver in debian is obsolete and causes X11 lockups" [Important,Fixed]21:26
ubottuDebian bug 675802 in xserver-xorg-input-wacom "xserver-xorg-input-wacom: "Touch Ring" stops working on Wacom MTE-450." [Normal,Fixed]21:26
josePHPagodaNoskcaj: no21:26
josePHPagodait's a diff issue21:26
josePHPagodasimilar, but diff21:26
josePHPagodaanyways, it looks like trusty will have the fix21:27
josePHPagodai'll fetch and burn a livecd and test it out when I get a chance21:27
josePHPagoda:)21:27
TheLordOfTimes/will/might/21:27
josePHPagodaTheLordOfTime: doesn't ubuntu source off of debian testing?21:28
TheLordOfTimethere's no guarantee there's a fix in Trusty or Debian21:28
NoskcajFor this particular package, we don't21:28
josePHPagodaoh?21:28
josePHPagodais there any particular reason why?21:28
TheLordOfTimeindeed, just saw that myself21:28
Noskcajif the issue is fixed in the list at bug 1235615 , we fixed this in trusty21:28
ubottubug 1235615 in xf86-input-wacom (Ubuntu) "FFe: xf86-input-wacom 0.23.0" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/123561521:28
NoskcajAnd someone one #ubuntu-x will know21:29
Noskcaj*on21:29
josePHPagoda7a1aadb24b65738 Resume button events for pucks21:31
josePHPagodathat looks like the issue I was having21:31
josePHPagodabut I'm not 100% sure21:32
josePHPagodahow can i get the link for the original bug report?21:32
NoskcajThe install the relevant .deb  from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+package/xserver-xorg-input-wacom and see if it works21:32
josePHPagodacan I just install that in 13.10?21:33
TheLordOfTimeyou could do that, too... maybe if you install by hand, unless it has a specific kernel requirement21:33
josePHPagodai just don't want to bork my current environment21:34
josePHPagodakind of important for work :)21:34
TheLordOfTimeyou're kinda limited on your testing options then21:34
TheLordOfTimelimited testing perhaps in a Live environment, but without a trusty environment to fully test in...21:34
josePHPagodayeah21:35
NoskcajThere's very little that can go wrong just by installing that .deb. No new dependencies were added21:36
josePHPagodaok21:36
josePHPagodai'll try it, and if it doesn't work, how's the best way to roll back to the current version?21:36
NoskcajJust uninstall it, then install from the software center21:37
Unit193sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-wacom=1:0.20.0-0ubuntu121:37
josePHPagodabrb21:38
TheLordOfTimeor Unit193's statement :)21:38
TheLordOfTimethat works too21:38
TheLordOfTimebleh, speaking of production environments, SSL died on my server >.<  (gotta fix it... back in a bit)21:38
Logan_Holy transition. http://cl.ly/image/0C3u0c2Z2y0R21:50
TheLordOfTimeo.O21:52
josePHPagodayay! so now the tablet seems to be working perfectly22:35
josePHPagodaso that's excellent22:35
josePHPagodathanks for your help everyone22:35
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