[08:00] <dholbach> good morning
[08:51] <owl> hi
[08:52] <owl> how to solve, package-contains-info-dir-file usr/share/info/dir.gz
[08:52] <owl> lintian
[21:13] <josePHPagoda> hello everyone!
[21:13] <josePHPagoda> I'm wondering how I would go about proposing a package?
[21:15] <tumbleweed> josePHPagoda: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html#submitting-for-inclusion
[21:15] <TheLordOfTime> isn't it always suggested to go the Debian route first so it gets synced into Ubuntu?
[21:15] <josePHPagoda> this isn't really new software though, more an update for a currently broken package included in 13.10
[21:15] <TheLordOfTime> (assuming a new package)
[21:15] <josePHPagoda> (also broken in 13.04)
[21:16] <josePHPagoda> even though upstream has been fixed for over a year
[21:16] <josePHPagoda> but I'd rather not compile from scratch
[21:16] <TheLordOfTime> mind if i ask what package?
[21:16] <TheLordOfTime> (curious)
[21:17] <josePHPagoda> it's the wacom drivers package
[21:17] <josePHPagoda> they work with the stylus, but are broken when trying to use the wacom mouse (no clicking registers)
[21:19] <josePHPagoda> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2139480
[21:19] <josePHPagoda> describes the issue
[21:20] <josePHPagoda> the solution proposed is to compile from scratch, which isn't great for this sort of thing
[21:20] <TheLordOfTime> um...
[21:20] <TheLordOfTime> i'm not certain you *can* submit a replacement package for 13.04 and 13.19
[21:20] <TheLordOfTime> 13.10*
[21:20]  * TheLordOfTime isn't a MOTU, but i think there's regulations around how things're updated for 13.04 and 13.10
[21:20] <Noskcaj10> josePHPagoda, Is this just an update or a complete new package?
[21:20] <TheLordOfTime> i know that if Trusty is sane, they've got the latest thing from Debian
[21:21] <josePHPagoda> it's an update
[21:21] <Noskcaj10> If it's minor we could SRU it, but either way it needs to be working in trusty first
[21:21] <josePHPagoda> there was a PPA, but it looks like 13.10 doesn't see any benefit
[21:21] <Noskcaj10> what's the package name?
[21:21] <TheLordOfTime> josePHPagoda, what's the actual package name(s), and have you tested Trusty to see if it works?
[21:21] <TheLordOfTime> whoopsies, Noskcaj10 said that xD
[21:21]  * TheLordOfTime slaps self
[21:21] <josePHPagoda> I haven't tested in trusty
[21:21] <josePHPagoda> i only have a single production machine
[21:21] <josePHPagoda> can't sacrifice the other
[21:22] <josePHPagoda> err
[21:22] <josePHPagoda> can't sacrifice it to run the other version of Ubuntu
[21:22] <josePHPagoda> let me see if I can find the package name
[21:22] <TheLordOfTime> Noskcaj, couldn't he in theory test from the live environment to see if it works?
[21:22] <TheLordOfTime> (for trusty)
[21:22] <Noskcaj> TheLordOfTime, I assume so
[21:22] <TheLordOfTime> ... oh that reminds me I'm missing a Trusty environment to test.
[21:23]  * TheLordOfTime grabs a copy of latest
[21:23] <josePHPagoda> xf86-input-wacom
[21:23] <TheLordOfTime> josePHPagoda, you could in theory boot to a LiveUSB or LiveCD and see if it works.
[21:23] <josePHPagoda> I _think_
[21:23] <TheLordOfTime> X.Org X Server -- Wacom Input Driver
[21:23] <TheLordOfTime> (from Debian packages.qa - http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xf86-input-wacom.html)
[21:23] <josePHPagoda> TheLordOfTime: yeah
[21:23] <josePHPagoda> would that help at all if I did that?
[21:24] <TheLordOfTime> looks like there were updates in the past couple months in Debian
[21:24] <josePHPagoda> so this could be a case of debian just being a little slow to pull from upstream?
[21:24] <TheLordOfTime> trusty looks like it has that
[21:24] <TheLordOfTime> josePHPagoda, or, a case of Debian being slow, but yes, it looks to be in Trusty
[21:25] <josePHPagoda> i hope it's fixed
[21:25] <josePHPagoda> i haven't been able to use the mouse on my tablet for over a year :(
[21:25] <TheLordOfTime> josePHPagoda, as i said, test Trusty, boot to a LiveUSB/LiveCD and test it
[21:25] <TheLordOfTime> that *may* be able ot be used for testing purposes
[21:26] <josePHPagoda> it'd be suitable for limited testing
[21:26] <Noskcaj> Does http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=721916 or http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=675802 sound like your issue?
[21:26] <josePHPagoda> i coul dsee if the total breakage is usable
[21:26] <josePHPagoda> Noskcaj: no
[21:26] <josePHPagoda> it's a diff issue
[21:26] <josePHPagoda> similar, but diff
[21:27] <josePHPagoda> anyways, it looks like trusty will have the fix
[21:27] <josePHPagoda> i'll fetch and burn a livecd and test it out when I get a chance
[21:27] <josePHPagoda> :)
[21:27] <TheLordOfTime> s/will/might/
[21:28] <josePHPagoda> TheLordOfTime: doesn't ubuntu source off of debian testing?
[21:28] <TheLordOfTime> there's no guarantee there's a fix in Trusty or Debian
[21:28] <Noskcaj> For this particular package, we don't
[21:28] <josePHPagoda> oh?
[21:28] <josePHPagoda> is there any particular reason why?
[21:28] <TheLordOfTime> indeed, just saw that myself
[21:28] <Noskcaj> if the issue is fixed in the list at bug 1235615 , we fixed this in trusty
[21:29] <Noskcaj> And someone one #ubuntu-x will know
[21:29] <Noskcaj> *on
[21:31] <josePHPagoda> 7a1aadb24b65738 Resume button events for pucks
[21:31] <josePHPagoda> that looks like the issue I was having
[21:32] <josePHPagoda> but I'm not 100% sure
[21:32] <josePHPagoda> how can i get the link for the original bug report?
[21:32] <Noskcaj> The install the relevant .deb  from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+package/xserver-xorg-input-wacom and see if it works
[21:33] <josePHPagoda> can I just install that in 13.10?
[21:33] <TheLordOfTime> you could do that, too... maybe if you install by hand, unless it has a specific kernel requirement
[21:34] <josePHPagoda> i just don't want to bork my current environment
[21:34] <josePHPagoda> kind of important for work :)
[21:34] <TheLordOfTime> you're kinda limited on your testing options then
[21:34] <TheLordOfTime> limited testing perhaps in a Live environment, but without a trusty environment to fully test in...
[21:35] <josePHPagoda> yeah
[21:36] <Noskcaj> There's very little that can go wrong just by installing that .deb. No new dependencies were added
[21:36] <josePHPagoda> ok
[21:36] <josePHPagoda> i'll try it, and if it doesn't work, how's the best way to roll back to the current version?
[21:37] <Noskcaj> Just uninstall it, then install from the software center
[21:37] <Unit193> sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-wacom=1:0.20.0-0ubuntu1
[21:38] <josePHPagoda> brb
[21:38] <TheLordOfTime> or Unit193's statement :)
[21:38] <TheLordOfTime> that works too
[21:38] <TheLordOfTime> bleh, speaking of production environments, SSL died on my server >.<  (gotta fix it... back in a bit)
[21:50] <Logan_> Holy transition. http://cl.ly/image/0C3u0c2Z2y0R
[21:52] <TheLordOfTime> o.O
[22:35] <josePHPagoda> yay! so now the tablet seems to be working perfectly
[22:35] <josePHPagoda> so that's excellent
[22:35] <josePHPagoda> thanks for your help everyone