| ubottu | jmgk called the ops in #ubuntu () | 02:01 |
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| ubottu | fishscene called the ops in #ubuntu (^guapo^) | 02:01 |
| ubottu | jmgk called the ops in #ubuntu () | 02:02 |
| xangua | no ops arount to calm #ubuntu ¿ | 02:13 |
| ubottu | somsip called the ops in #ubuntu (guapo) | 02:17 |
| IdleOne | speaks Spanish, why didn't he speak to him | 02:26 |
| LjL | i can read Spanish, too... and i can tell you he wouldn't have listened | 02:35 |
| IdleOne | I know he wouldn't have listened, but he didn't even try. | 02:38 |
| ubottu | LjL called the ops in #ubuntu (alumno_) | 12:50 |
| k1l | !guidelines > alumno_ | 12:51 |
| muchdoge | How do I get help? | 13:03 |
| LjL | wish i knew | 13:04 |
| h00k | 11:47 ::: netjoin/#ubuntu-offtopic cyberputz (~rg@fredphelps.jesusfucked.me) | 17:53 |
| h00k | ... | 17:53 |
| IdleOne | phunyguy: his vanity host is ugly, but he hasn't been an issue otherwise that I know of. If it offends you that much...seems h00k is bothered by it also. | 17:53 |
| IdleOne | personally don't think it is the worst host we have seen. | 17:54 |
| h00k | I don't care about the jesus part, just the f-bomb. | 17:54 |
| h00k | I'm going to look past it, I think. | 17:54 |
| h00k | meh. | 17:54 |
| phunyguy | it's just.... WHY? | 17:55 |
| h00k | successful troll is successful :( | 17:56 |
| IdleOne | because not everybody thinks that the combination of the F bomb and the name Jesus is a bad thing. | 17:56 |
| k1l | you dont have that host by accident | 17:56 |
| LjL | so i guess it's only right since we have some rules in our channels that aren't even so clearly well defined, to force everyone to adapt network-wide | 17:58 |
| IdleOne | +1, and we should all wear the same uniform too | 17:59 |
| k1l | network-wide? is anyone talking about users in #otherchannel than #ubuntu* | 17:59 |
| IdleOne | forcing a user to change his cloak so they can use #ubuntu* would be a network wide change for them | 18:00 |
| LjL | i think some people choose to misinterpret what other people say in a similar vein to how some people choose their hostnames | 18:00 |
| jbroome | that's not a cloak, that's reverse DNS | 18:00 |
| IdleOne | jbroome: for simplicity I used cloak, should have said host perhaps? | 18:00 |
| jbroome | cloak implies that we set it | 18:00 |
| LjL | host makes more sense | 18:01 |
| k1l | innapropriate behaviour, nicks or hosts need to stay out. thats it | 18:01 |
| IdleOne | jbroome: true, sorry. | 18:02 |
| k1l | if he wants to troll in #ubuntu-offtopic and is not allowed because of his inapproriate host, i can live with that | 18:02 |
| IdleOne | he wasn't trolling | 18:02 |
| k1l | he is actually trolling with that host | 18:02 |
| IdleOne | all he did was join the channel, for all we know he was going to just idle there and not say a word for the next year. | 18:03 |
| k1l | you even told he wanted attention. | 18:03 |
| jbroome | np | 18:03 |
| k1l | so that is what a troll does. put something into the channel that starts some trouble. if its some words, a nick or a host. | 18:04 |
| IdleOne | choosing that host to me implies that he wanted attention, much like ubuntu members who ask for the @ubuntu/member cloak. | 18:04 |
| jussi | Huomio!!! :D | 18:04 |
| k1l | so we are discussing how offensive a ubuntu/member cloak is? really? | 18:04 |
| IdleOne | no what we are discussing is why are we freaking out over something that wasn't an issue until it was made an issue by us | 18:05 |
| h00k | I'm over it, I don't care about the host :( | 18:05 |
| h00k | It's a network wide change we'd enforce to get them to comply with our channel | 18:05 |
| h00k | but maybe I'm just getting lazy in my ops | 18:05 |
| h00k | no, I brought it up, mostly as a question | 18:05 |
| h00k | I didn't know if it had been seen before, much like the other nick in question the other week (LjL, remember? [lol]). Where...really...not a big deal and don't make it one... | 18:06 |
| h00k | what was it, niggerish or something? | 18:06 |
| h00k | anyway. | 18:06 |
| IdleOne | niggardly | 18:07 |
| h00k | That's just my $0.02. | 18:07 |
| k1l | ok. so when a user is allowed the nick "ubuntu_is_teh_sux" in #fedora he is allowed that nick in our channel? | 18:07 |
| k1l | or "k1l_is_an_asshole". | 18:08 |
| k1l | because it would be a network wide change to change a nick, too. | 18:08 |
| IdleOne | yes, as long as he doesn't say anything to disrupt the channel. As for the asshole nick, no. | 18:08 |
| h00k | rhetorical: is asshole then allowed as a host/mask? | 18:09 |
| jussi | k1l: I can be in my channel with as nasty nicks as you want. but if someone wants to participate in #ubuntu channels, the nick must comply with the CoC | 18:09 |
| k1l | jussi: so goes for the host | 18:09 |
| h00k | since normally, hosts/masks are only seen upon entrance and exit, and nicknames are for whenever they speak | 18:09 |
| h00k | so visibility is different, do different "rules" apply? | 18:09 |
| h00k | s/rules/guidelines/ | 18:09 |
| IdleOne | h00k: common sense applies | 18:10 |
| jussi | and lets face it, most users are not having joins/parts... | 18:10 |
| IdleOne | and the ones who do see the join/parts aren't really paying attention to them most of the time | 18:10 |
| jussi | I think leaving it until there is a complaint - if no one notices/has an issue, why botther the person? | 18:10 |
| k1l | jussi: i do see a intention in that host. you talk about that as if that is accidently missunderstandable | 18:10 |
| jussi | k1l: does it bother you? if so, ask him as a user to change it. if he wont, then its the ops turn | 18:11 |
| k1l | i see we have a problem with the big censor elephant. | 18:14 |
| h00k | hm? | 18:14 |
| IdleOne | I believe in censorship actually. I just don't think we need to censor everything. | 18:15 |
| k1l | i dont get where the network-wide is a factor to judging what is not appropriate in ubuntu channels | 18:15 |
| k1l | a nick is also network-wide and that is considered to be changeable to suit the channel guidelines. but when i intentionally take a host that can be offensive to others that is fine since it would apply to have been changed network-wide | 18:17 |
| h00k | I can see your point | 18:23 |
| h00k | I don't know what the 'answer' is | 18:29 |
| k1l | imho, if something is not appropriate (like against the CoC) it doesnt matter if its words, nick or host. you choose a nick the same way you choose the words you write or the host in that case. | 18:31 |
| ikonia | hello zernia | 21:43 |
| ikonia | ? | 21:45 |
| k1l | seems like bad karma :) | 21:45 |
| ikonia | I wonder if he was someone we know under a differnt nick | 21:45 |
| ikonia | I don't see anything similar in BT | 21:46 |
| k1l | is see other 91.210. receiving k-lines. | 21:47 |
| ikonia | k1l: some bot net apparantly | 21:53 |
| ikonia | seems staff are on it | 21:53 |
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