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Mydim3hey can anyone help me?00:57
Azelphur!ask | Mydim300:57
lubotu3Mydim3: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience00:57
antichatter.in 5 minutes00:58
Mydim3anyone00:59
Mydim3i want to install steam os and i don't know how help01:01
daftykinslol01:33
daftykinsnot that damn kid again01:33
shaunothe one trying to put it on an old p4?01:38
daftykinsyeah :D01:39
daftykinswith i865 graphics no less01:39
shaunowith a high chance it's not 64bit :/01:42
MooDoomorning all07:05
MartijnVdSmoo-rning ;)07:32
MooDoo:D07:36
knightwi1emorning everyon e07:38
MooDoomorning knightwi1e07:39
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knightwisehmm.. looking for some nice ways to spice up my command line07:43
MooDoohttp://www.geocities.com/spunk1111/xmas.htm07:44
* knightwise ** eyes ** bleeding ***07:44
knightwisewas thinking more along the line of a cool color sceme07:44
knightwisenot too much fluf07:45
MooDoolol07:45
knightwiseI have to say, Ubuntu 13.10 screams on my Lenovo twist.07:53
knightwisethe 120 gig SSD does help so I can only imagine what an 8 gig memory upgrade would add07:53
dwatkinshiya08:10
MooDoohello08:10
directhexbonjour08:42
MooDooavec vu un cuppa ;)08:42
directhexdo i have anyone awake today who feels like collaborating on a project?08:42
directhexi have successful booting of ye olde steamose as a bios dvd, bios usb stick, uefi dvd, and uefi usb stick08:48
directhexwell, in qemu anyway08:48
MooDoodirecthex: how's it working for you?08:48
directhexMooDoo, dunno. that was step 1. step 2 is making the disk partition requirements more relaxed08:49
directhex(and non-gpt on bios systems)08:49
diddledan__I thought geocities was excised from the internet?08:56
MooDooyes it's closed08:56
MooDoounless ou're in japan08:56
diddledan__so how is that link still serving evil asciiart?08:57
MooDoooh yeah didn't notice that08:58
dwatkinswith sed, what's the syntax for taking somthing in brackets from the source and placing it in the destination text? I thought it was (some text) and $1, but that seems now to work.08:59
dutchie\108:59
dutchie$1 is perl08:59
diddledan__I have great trouble getting sed to work with anything complex - it complains about invalid escape sequences left-right-and-center09:00
dwatkinshmmm, I tried that but it failed, possibly because the source has a single quote... http://hastebin.com/wisasuwuho.txt09:01
JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Maple Syrup Day! :-D09:14
MartijnVdSJamesTait: what kind of calendar are you using?09:14
diddledan__lol09:15
JamesTaitMartijnVdS, I don't know, but any calendar that gives me a reason to consume maple syrup is good in my book. :)09:16
dwatkinsWhen : Always December 1709:16
dwatkinsNational Maple Syrup Day provides us with the opportunity to enjoy and appreciate this delicious American treat. This sweet and unique flavor originated in America. Native American Indians were the first to harvest and boil the sap of the maple tree into a thick syrup.09:16
dwatkins...and there was me thinking it was Canadian ;)09:17
JamesTaitWhere did you get that from, dwatkins?09:19
dwatkinsJamesTait: http://www.holidayinsights.com/moreholidays/December/maplesyrupday.htm09:20
JamesTaitOoh, I may have a new source! Thanks, dwatkins! :)09:20
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)09:21
MooDoomorning bigcalm09:21
dwatkinsJamesTait: a new sauce? ;)09:21
MooDoohmmmm maple syrup and bacon lol09:21
JamesTaitMooDoo, no!09:22
JamesTaitHi msm, aquarius. :-D09:22
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dwatkinsdutchie: what is the \1 syntax called, so I can look it up in the sed documentation, please?09:22
MartijnVdSdwatkins: those are capture groups, I think09:22
MartijnVdSdwatkins: "capture" being the search term09:23
dwatkinsthanks MartijnVdS09:23
MartijnVdSdwatkins: that's waht Perl calls them anyway :)09:23
JamesTaitdwatkins, maybe also back-references, but that might be a term I've made up myself. :-P09:23
MartijnVdSJamesTait: heard that too09:23
MartijnVdSJamesTait: but that might be only if you use it in the first part of s///09:23
MartijnVdShttp://www.gnu.org/software/sed/manual/html_node/Regular-Expressions.html -> back reference09:24
JamesTaitOh good, I didn't make it up, at least! :)09:25
MartijnVdSJamesTait: no but you use the same words as those FSF/GNU people09:25
dwatkinsbingo! Looks like I need to include the '-r' option to sed to use extended regular expressions, thanks folks!09:26
dwatkinshttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/13128955/sed-using-extended-regexp-and-capture-groups for reference09:26
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msm_Morning JamesTait :)09:27
MartijnVdSdwatkins: why not use perl -n ;)09:27
dwatkinsoutput full of win: http://hastebin.com/pitoweyume.txt09:27
dwatkinsMartijnVdS: because perl gives me the willies ;)09:27
MartijnVdSit makes Perl work like sed and/or awk, giving you *Perl* regexes, with named capture groups (?<foo>blah) -> $+{foo} instaed of $109:27
bigcalmWeee, OCZ have got around to dealing with my dead SSD09:37
bigcalmReceived Date:2013-11-2809:37
bigcalmReplaced Date:2013-12-1709:37
MartijnVdSdidn't ocz go out of business?09:38
bigcalmCurrent location: TAOYUAN CITY TW09:38
bigcalmOh dear09:39
bigcalmI'm glad that my warranty was honoured then09:44
bigcalmMaybe I should get back into reading tech news09:46
bigcalmWhat's a good source?09:46
foobarryg+09:47
MartijnVdSarstechnica09:47
MooDoomashable09:48
bigcalmIs Thunderbird any good with RSS?09:49
foobarryverge (except the their love of apple)09:49
popeyyc09:49
popeylwn09:49
bigcalmwht09:49
foobarryreddit.com/linux09:49
foobarryslashdot for old news09:50
popeyhttps://news.ycombinator.com/news09:50
popeyhttp://lwn.net/09:50
MartijnVdSycombinator is full of "My way = best" types though09:51
bigcalmI see09:51
MartijnVdS(even when it isn't)09:51
* bigcalm pats Thunderbird - good job on being simple to use09:55
foobarrycheck your RAM09:56
bigcalmMartijnVdS: looks like the Toshiba deal is going ahead: http://ir.ocz.com/news/detail/3014/ocz-reaches-agreement-with-toshiba-corporation-to-acquire-solid-state-drive-business09:57
MartijnVdSbigcalm: ah! hadn't seen that yet09:57
bigcalmMartijnVdS: http://ir.ocz.com/news/detail/3014/lemmings-lemmings-lemmings09:59
bigcalmIt's one of those silly URLs09:59
MartijnVdS"Let's put the title in, then ignore it"09:59
MartijnVdSAmazon does those too sometimes09:59
foobarryamazon are really bad at hijacking the back button too10:12
bigcalmYou have to hit back multiple times really quickly10:12
bigcalmStops the in page refresh10:13
MartijnVdSfoobarry: are they? it's worked fine/as expected for me10:13
bagpuss_thecatmorning all10:13
foobarryyeah, sucks10:13
foobarryput in a 12hr shift today, hope today is not a repeat10:14
foobarry^today^yesterday10:14
foobarrygot indoors and climbed into bed10:14
foobarryfaulty sun kit10:15
bagpuss_thecatwhat would cause Unity 13.04 to run with the POSIX locale? In /etc/environment LC_ALL is en_GB.utf8, ~/.bash* and ~/.profile have been removed, and when I log in to a VT the locale is set correctly10:16
bagpuss_thecatlanguage and keyboard system tool says that everything is set correctly10:16
bagpuss_thecatchalcedony: !10:18
* bagpuss_thecat starts up Gnome instead, gets the correct locale, and decides to live with it for the day10:19
diplobagpuss_thecat: I had that yesterday, removed US from locales in settings and it went back to normal10:20
bagpuss_thecatcool, I'll try that later. thanks10:21
brobostigongood morning eveyrone.10:29
MartijnVdS\o brobostigon10:29
brobostigonmorning MartijnVdS10:30
MooDooyo!10:33
brobostigonmorning MooDoo10:35
diplo:source /home/andy/.byobu/profile10:38
diplo. /usr/bin/byobu-reconnect-sockets10:38
diplo:/10:38
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directhexsuccess11:57
popeySuccess?11:57
brobostigonits sunny, :)11:59
* popey has the blind shut12:04
popeycloudy here12:04
brobostigon:(12:04
diploAnyone got any suggestions, very intermittently we get a 403 on our web page, sites worked fine for months.. nothings changed in the htaccess12:07
diploWeb host saying nothing is wrong, I can't recreate locally EVER12:07
directhexpopey, did an install in virt-manager on a bios-based vm, from my steamos .iso12:07
SuperMat1I was a little perplexed why it wasn't released as an iso in the first place12:08
directhexSuperMat1, reduce the target area12:09
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SuperMattdirecthex: how so?12:09
directhexSuperMat1, BIOS DVD boot, BIOS USB boot, UEFI DVD boot and UEFI USB boot are all different & need subtle tweaking12:10
SuperMattah right12:10
MartijnVdSthough dd/cdrecord'ing the Ubuntu ISO to an USB stick or CD/DVD works great for all of those cases12:12
MartijnVdSwell12:13
MartijnVdSexcept maybe bios usb boot? not sure about that one12:13
directhexMartijnVdS, that's through a bunch of extra work12:15
MartijnVdSdirecthex: yes, but it's all been done, so you don't have to twiddle bits yourself12:15
directhexMartijnVdS, unless you modify anything12:15
MartijnVdSdirecthex: aren't there scripts to re-fix it?12:16
directhexMartijnVdS, not particularly documented. mostly you just need a giant xorriso command-line, assuming you don't touch the package manifest12:16
MartijnVdSwhat a beautiful name for a tool though ;)12:17
TwistedLucidityI have totally failed to get SteamOS to boot. VBox get stuck on UEFI and refuses to do anything. No big loss really, was just curious about it.12:25
directhexTwistedLucidity, boots fine for me now. next step: enable emulated 3d support12:29
TwistedLuciditydirecthex: I got no idea what's wrong. I get to the UFEI prompt, try to launch the steam64.efi thing and....nothing happens.12:30
TwistedLucidityNever used UEFI before, so I might be getting something wrong12:31
gordonjcpdirecthex: what did you do to get it to boot?12:31
directhexgordonjcp, which bit?12:31
gordonjcpdirecthex: SteamOS12:32
directhexgordonjcp, i've injected modified BIOS GRUB packages into the package tree & rebuilt all required manifests, and i've created a bootable el torito isohybrid disc by transplanting various isolinux files from wheezy's installer12:32
gordonjcpsweet12:32
gordonjcpI tried netbooting it to fake EFI but I got nowhere :-)12:33
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* foobarry needs a hug13:09
* popey hugs foobarry 13:09
* popey tickles foobarry while hugging13:09
foobarryimportant storage cluster been down since 00:12 on friday morning13:09
SuperMattD:13:10
foobarrygot home last niht and cralwed into bed straight away13:10
foobarrysort of promised wifey wouldn't do that today13:10
foobarrymissed a roast dinner too13:10
SuperMattI got home at midnight last night, after an hour at the gym and four hours dancing... then I just couldn't sleep13:12
foobarrynot surprised13:12
SuperMattI'm so far beyond exhausted right now13:12
foobarrysurely gym and dancing are kind of duplicating the exercise13:12
SuperMattI had 2 hours to kill before dancing13:14
SuperMattso I went to the gym13:14
foobarryyou could have snoozed13:14
foobarryor had a sauna at the gym13:14
SuperMattdoesn't have a sauna13:15
foobarryi've never been to a gym13:15
foobarryi don't know what happens there13:15
MooDooyou pick up heavy things13:15
SuperMattmostly you feel inadequate compared to everyone else13:15
SuperMattand you pick up heavy things13:15
SuperMattI mostly do running and stuff13:15
dutchie sometimes you pretend to run/cycle/row place13:15
foobarrylol13:15
dutchies13:15
foobarryyou could run to the gym13:16
MooDooI've got two speeds, slow and stop13:16
foobarrythen run home without going in13:16
foobarrycheaper and less self loathing13:16
foobarryalthough i'd like a running machine to tie doggy onto13:16
SuperMattsure, but when it's wet and dark out, like it is at the moment, it's just nice to be able to do your running indoors13:16
foobarrytreadmill13:17
foobarrystairs13:18
SuperMattI don't have room for a treadmill and I don't have stairs ;)13:18
foobarrystand in a machien room for 12 hours like i did yesterday13:19
foobarry!sauna13:19
foobarrymmmmm topic bar13:23
foobarryfacebook are doing auto playing video ads?13:48
foobarryFAIL13:48
jussiNOOOO13:49
jussiI hate autoplaying video ads..13:49
MartijnVdStime to move to G+ :)13:49
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foobarryi dont want my family on g+13:53
foobarrykeep my family pics and tech news separate!13:53
bashrcautoplaying ads - how wonderful13:54
MartijnVdSthat's why you have different circles13:54
MartijnVdSfoobarry: ^13:54
popeydropbox down?13:56
popeymy icon has gone grey13:56
popeyon both computers13:56
MartijnVdSpopey: maybe it's in the new block lists used by ISPs?13:56
MartijnVdSbecause it could be used for terrorism/child abuse/etc.13:57
diploMine has gone grey as well popey13:57
directhexok. 3d enabled in the vmware driver on the dvd13:57
popeyhah13:57
MartijnVdSdirecthex: you should rename yourself to directh4x ;)13:58
directhexwonder which package provides virtualbox's 3d driver13:59
MartijnVdSdirecthex: is there one?!13:59
MartijnVdSit's probably part of the "guest additions"?14:00
foobarryhas anyone seen a bug/issue in android where you send a text to a number and they reply back and you cannot reply to them because 1 digit gets removed each time?14:02
MartijnVdSfoobarry: never experienced that14:02
dwatkinsme neither, the only bug I've seen that's even vaguely related is that my phone puts SMS messages out of order because the network fails to account for the timezone for received messages14:03
MartijnVdSdwatkins: at least that's not as buggy as one of my previous phones (a Palm with GSM features :)14:03
MartijnVdSdwatkins: With a SIM from country A, receiving an SMS country B while roaming in country C made the phone wipe itself14:04
MartijnVdSdwatkins: reproducibly14:04
dwatkinsoh my14:04
MartijnVdS(at least with A=Vodafone-NL, B=Czech Republic, C=Germany)14:04
foobarryme and my wife have it with certain numbers14:05
dwatkinsthat sounds like technological warfare ;)14:05
foobarrya number starting 0781 becomes 081...14:05
dwatkinsMy mobile number used to start 0370, now it's 07770, but that's all due to the big number change of about 14 years ago14:06
MartijnVdSdwatkins: mine was a Palm Tungsten W.. late 2003 early 0414:07
MartijnVdSdwatkins: I've had my number since around 200114:07
MartijnVdSoh wow http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/palm-tungsten-w/4505-6452_7-20897089.html14:08
directhexvirtualbox-guest-x1114:09
MartijnVdSafter that, I got a Motorola E1000. Before that, a few Nokia phones14:09
* MartijnVdS had a 3650 (with the circular keypad)14:11
MooDooanyone recommend a decent low cost server for about 3/400 quids?  I know about the microserver, just for running linux /web/mail/playing about ?14:13
MartijnVdSAWS :P14:14
MooDooi want a physical box for my garage14:15
* MartijnVdS thinks AlanBell and TheOpenSourcerer can help you for realz though14:15
MartijnVdSmaybe even popey14:15
MartijnVdSAlan *, really 8_)14:15
TheOpenSourcererMooDoo: I've been running a VIA C700 Jetway mobo for about 4/5 years now. Has a 3TB hdd connected and 1GB ram.14:15
MooDooTheOpenSourcerer: self build?14:15
foobarryMooDoo: get a free poweredge 2950 from a friendly local14:15
TheOpenSourcereryep14:16
TheOpenSourcererV. low power14:16
TheOpenSourcerer~20 - 30W total14:16
TheOpenSourcererIt runs a dlna server, samba file server,  has run web and even Java apps too ;-)14:17
MooDoofoobarry: you mean like this one - r, samba file server,  has run web and even Java app14:17
ormiretMooDoo: definitely think about power uasage for something that'll be on all the time, 1W is about £1/year14:17
MooDoohttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dell-PowerEdge-2950-III-2X-2-00GHZ-QUAD-CORE-16GB-RAM-2-X-73GB-3-X-750-GB-PERC-/22133729135214:17
foobarrylots of people been giving stuff like that away14:18
foobarryout of support contract, ripping them out of racks14:18
foobarrynot low power though ;)14:18
TheOpenSourcererthis was/is it: http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2007/09/untangle-asterisk-pbx-and-file-server-all-in-one/14:18
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popeythat looks noisy14:22
popeyjust from the picture14:22
popeyMooDoo: I have an old 1st Gen microserver and love it14:22
popeyit's done well14:22
TheOpenSourcererThat dell server will SCREEAAMMM14:22
popeyi have a 2U server in my garage which i never turn on14:23
popey(the old lug.org.uk box)14:23
TheOpenSourcererAnd EAT electricity14:23
popeyyeah14:23
foobarrygood for running esxi14:23
MooDoofoobarry: that's what I'm looking at :)14:24
MooDoopopey: can't you get them direct from HP?14:25
foobarryif i was still in my old role i'd give you one for free14:26
foobarrykinda outside my jursdiction now14:26
MooDoook seen them on amazon14:26
foobarrywe've had between 6-8 disks go bad on an array :-|14:27
foobarryin a couple of days14:27
foobarrywhat the heck is happening14:27
MartijnVdScosmic rays.14:27
foobarryyeah baby14:28
diploWe used to run the 2950's at work, about 50= of them14:28
diplo50+ *14:29
foobarryreliable machines14:29
foobarryMooDoo: or maybe a 195014:29
foobarryif you don't need loads of disks14:29
foobarryMartijnVdS: there are DNA scanners in the same room...14:31
MartijnVdSfoobarry: radiation leaks?14:31
popeyMooDoo: yeah, think so14:33
diploThey're very very noisy though!14:42
MooDoohmmm might just even upgrade my nas from netgear to synology14:43
directhexok, tested: out of the box 3d support on virtualbox, big picture runs14:48
* foobarry hasn't won any toys on the advent calendar comps yet14:49
directhextested: out of the box 3d support on vmware, gnome shell runs but haven't tried BP yet15:02
AlanBellMooDoo: the 2U server will be a bit noisy, but it is the 1U boxes that are the real screamers. Personally I would go for something sold as a desktop if the rack mount fixings are not the reason you are buying it15:08
AlanBellservers are rubbish - unless you need them, in which case they are OK15:08
MooDooAlanBell: yeah I was thinking of a desktop might just simpler15:09
AlanBellservers take *ages* to boot up, are noisy and power hungry15:09
diploI used a a old Optiplex as my server at work15:09
diplodead quiet15:10
MooDoodiplo: I'm using an optiplex now, can get them cheap from mcscom.co.uk15:11
Myrttioptiplexi are nice15:11
dwatkinsI'm trying to turn an old Mac Pro into a vmware server.15:11
diploI got mine from my old work, they were chucking it out, bought some more ram and it's as ogood as newish15:12
diploWould like an SS D in it but really can't afford one atm15:12
MartijnVdSdiplo: I hear OCZs are going cheap 8-)15:13
diploWrong time of year for me unfortunatley with two young kids and a single dad :/15:15
diploSee how I'm doing in Jan sales :)15:15
MartijnVdSdiplo: I see how that would decrease the "computer toys" budget15:17
Laneymmm, got some limoncello in town as a christmas present to self16:46
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MartijnVdSLaney: you must hate yourself 8-)17:47
Laneyi loooooooooooooooooooooooove it17:47
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directhexAzelphur, iirc you have capacity to help seed linuxy torrents?18:54
Azelphurdirecthex: what are you after?18:55
directhexAzelphur, i'm putting together a steamos remix18:59
Azelphurdaftykins: if you can talk me through the seeding process on a server, I should be able to help19:00
ali1234if you send me the torrent file i'll seed it on my server19:08
diploEvening all19:57
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directhexcan someone try downloading magnet:?xt=urn:btih:b1efce9ea21632084db51c6e5fe922ce0849b17c&dn=yeoldesteamos-1.0beta1alpha1.iso ?22:14
arc__hey how do i install age of empires 2 on ubuntu 12.0422:15
directhexarc__, um... i guess with wine22:17
arc__do i mount the iso and go ?22:18
arc__ok with the sarcasm22:18
directhexmaybe? i think #winehq might be more help22:18
arc__kk22:18
diplodirecthex: Works22:21
diploWant me to keep it running, or just a test ?22:21
directhexdiplo, well, this is my first release, so if you want to help share it, keep running :D22:23
diploWill do, running/dling on my home server so will leave it on for a few days22:23
diploRunning from your home ?22:23
directhexyes22:26
directhexlet's see if i can hammer through the router for more speed22:26
directhexhm, should be UPnP'd22:27
diploGetting about 105 on average, 2 1/2 hours till completion22:28
directhexi have 16mbit up...22:29
diploOh.... :/22:29
directhexand transmission says it's opened a upnp port22:29
* popey suspects directhex is the 31.x address22:30
diplo:P22:30
directhexi'll see if wife's pc does better w/ a different client22:34
popeydirecthex: do you have a torrent file?22:37
popeynot a magnet link22:37
directhexpopey, um... yes. hang on22:38
directhexretro.apebox.org/yeoldesteamos-1.0beta1alpha1.iso.torrent22:39
popeyta22:40
popeyaway she goes22:40
popeyhmm22:41
popeyzero bytes transferring, seems to be trying to get to a tracker22:41
diploTook a good minute or more for mine to start22:42
directhexhm. can we try again? i'll try making a new torrent w/ better trackers listed22:48
diploSure22:51
x70evening all22:58
directhexhttp://directhex.github.io/steamos-installer/22:59
diploGoing again now23:02
shaunoseriously?  workstation is 190gbp?23:03
popeydirecthex: 200MB or so on each torrent23:07
shaunomine seems happy enough, it's just held back because there's only one complete copy so far23:10
directhexwish i knew how to improve that :/23:13
directhexbt throttling?23:13
shaunookay, I'll admit android land is just confusing me; does nexus 4 get kitkat?23:13
popeyI'm only getting 50K/s down23:14
popeywavers around23:14
diployeah same23:14
shaunoyou're around 25%?23:14
diploShould be done by morning though23:14
diploNot now, transmission-daemon got confused, so killed it and it broke so had to start a fresh :/23:15
diploI'm guessing 26% maybe popey on his VPS? looks like a bitfolk IP range :)23:16
popeyya23:17
popeyother one is home23:17
shaunohm, 31. is now claiming it has 0%23:22
directhexrestarted the torrent on my desktop, has helped a lot23:22
popey0 here23:25
directhexhang on...23:25
popeynot moving23:25
directhexgrr, torrents /o\23:25
shaunooh this is priceless.  Porsche are offering 3d models of the Cayman S.  Because it turns out people *do* want to download a car; http://www.porsche.com/international/cayman_3d/23:26
popeydirecthex: just blipped up to 300K/s23:27
popeynow back to 023:27
popeykeeps flipping up/down23:28
directhexlots of torrent clients don't support magnet or udp23:30
popey             295.0 /  989.0 MB Rate: 160.4 /  86.9 KB Uploaded:   402.8 MB [29%]  0d  2:16 [   R: 1.36]23:30
shaunoit doesn't seem broken, just slow.  I'm just gonna ignore it and see what it looks like in the morning  (I'm the 144. on a hetzner box)23:33
popeyi see only two peers23:38
popeyone is my vps, and we all have 34%23:39
diplo11% here23:40
shaunoI see 7.  and only one's ipv6 :(23:40
diplo7 peers in total over two trackers23:41
directhexdesktop is finally seeding a little, slowly. wife's desktop is ~10x faster23:43

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