=== Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [00:57] hey can anyone help me? [00:57] !ask | Mydim3 [00:57] Mydim3: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [00:58] .in 5 minutes [00:59] anyone [01:01] i want to install steam os and i don't know how help [01:33] lol [01:33] not that damn kid again [01:38] the one trying to put it on an old p4? [01:39] yeah :D [01:39] with i865 graphics no less [01:42] with a high chance it's not 64bit :/ [07:05] morning all [07:32] moo-rning ;) [07:36] :D [07:38] morning everyon e [07:39] morning knightwi1e === knightwi1e is now known as knightwise [07:43] hmm.. looking for some nice ways to spice up my command line [07:44] http://www.geocities.com/spunk1111/xmas.htm [07:44] * knightwise ** eyes ** bleeding *** [07:44] was thinking more along the line of a cool color sceme [07:45] not too much fluf [07:45] lol [07:53] I have to say, Ubuntu 13.10 screams on my Lenovo twist. [07:53] the 120 gig SSD does help so I can only imagine what an 8 gig memory upgrade would add [08:10] hiya [08:10] hello [08:42] bonjour [08:42] avec vu un cuppa ;) [08:42] do i have anyone awake today who feels like collaborating on a project? [08:48] i have successful booting of ye olde steamose as a bios dvd, bios usb stick, uefi dvd, and uefi usb stick [08:48] well, in qemu anyway [08:48] directhex: how's it working for you? [08:49] MooDoo, dunno. that was step 1. step 2 is making the disk partition requirements more relaxed [08:49] (and non-gpt on bios systems) [08:56] I thought geocities was excised from the internet? [08:56] yes it's closed [08:56] unless ou're in japan [08:57] so how is that link still serving evil asciiart? [08:58] oh yeah didn't notice that [08:59] with sed, what's the syntax for taking somthing in brackets from the source and placing it in the destination text? I thought it was (some text) and $1, but that seems now to work. [08:59] \1 [08:59] $1 is perl [09:00] I have great trouble getting sed to work with anything complex - it complains about invalid escape sequences left-right-and-center [09:01] hmmm, I tried that but it failed, possibly because the source has a single quote... http://hastebin.com/wisasuwuho.txt [09:14] Good morning all; happy Maple Syrup Day! :-D [09:14] JamesTait: what kind of calendar are you using? [09:15] lol [09:16] MartijnVdS, I don't know, but any calendar that gives me a reason to consume maple syrup is good in my book. :) [09:16] When : Always December 17 [09:16] National Maple Syrup Day provides us with the opportunity to enjoy and appreciate this delicious American treat. This sweet and unique flavor originated in America. Native American Indians were the first to harvest and boil the sap of the maple tree into a thick syrup. [09:17] ...and there was me thinking it was Canadian ;) [09:19] Where did you get that from, dwatkins? [09:20] JamesTait: http://www.holidayinsights.com/moreholidays/December/maplesyrupday.htm [09:20] Ooh, I may have a new source! Thanks, dwatkins! :) [09:21] Good morning peeps :) [09:21] morning bigcalm [09:21] JamesTait: a new sauce? ;) [09:21] hmmmm maple syrup and bacon lol [09:22] MooDoo, no! [09:22] Hi msm, aquarius. :-D === msm is now known as Guest31555 [09:22] dutchie: what is the \1 syntax called, so I can look it up in the sed documentation, please? [09:22] dwatkins: those are capture groups, I think [09:23] dwatkins: "capture" being the search term [09:23] thanks MartijnVdS [09:23] dwatkins: that's waht Perl calls them anyway :) [09:23] dwatkins, maybe also back-references, but that might be a term I've made up myself. :-P [09:23] JamesTait: heard that too [09:23] JamesTait: but that might be only if you use it in the first part of s/// [09:24] http://www.gnu.org/software/sed/manual/html_node/Regular-Expressions.html -> back reference [09:25] Oh good, I didn't make it up, at least! :) [09:25] JamesTait: no but you use the same words as those FSF/GNU people [09:26] bingo! Looks like I need to include the '-r' option to sed to use extended regular expressions, thanks folks! [09:26] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13128955/sed-using-extended-regexp-and-capture-groups for reference === Guest31555 is now known as msm_ [09:27] Morning JamesTait :) [09:27] dwatkins: why not use perl -n ;) [09:27] output full of win: http://hastebin.com/pitoweyume.txt [09:27] MartijnVdS: because perl gives me the willies ;) [09:27] it makes Perl work like sed and/or awk, giving you *Perl* regexes, with named capture groups (?blah) -> $+{foo} instaed of $1 [09:37] Weee, OCZ have got around to dealing with my dead SSD [09:37] Received Date: 2013-11-28 [09:37] Replaced Date: 2013-12-17 [09:38] didn't ocz go out of business? [09:38] Current location: TAOYUAN CITY TW [09:39] Oh dear [09:44] I'm glad that my warranty was honoured then [09:46] Maybe I should get back into reading tech news [09:46] What's a good source? [09:47] g+ [09:47] arstechnica [09:48] mashable [09:49] Is Thunderbird any good with RSS? [09:49] verge (except the their love of apple) [09:49] yc [09:49] lwn [09:49] wht [09:49] reddit.com/linux [09:50] slashdot for old news [09:50] https://news.ycombinator.com/news [09:50] http://lwn.net/ [09:51] ycombinator is full of "My way = best" types though [09:51] I see [09:51] (even when it isn't) [09:55] * bigcalm pats Thunderbird - good job on being simple to use [09:56] check your RAM [09:57] MartijnVdS: looks like the Toshiba deal is going ahead: http://ir.ocz.com/news/detail/3014/ocz-reaches-agreement-with-toshiba-corporation-to-acquire-solid-state-drive-business [09:57] bigcalm: ah! hadn't seen that yet [09:59] MartijnVdS: http://ir.ocz.com/news/detail/3014/lemmings-lemmings-lemmings [09:59] It's one of those silly URLs [09:59] "Let's put the title in, then ignore it" [09:59] Amazon does those too sometimes [10:12] amazon are really bad at hijacking the back button too [10:12] You have to hit back multiple times really quickly [10:13] Stops the in page refresh [10:13] foobarry: are they? it's worked fine/as expected for me [10:13] morning all [10:13] yeah, sucks [10:14] put in a 12hr shift today, hope today is not a repeat [10:14] ^today^yesterday [10:14] got indoors and climbed into bed [10:15] faulty sun kit [10:16] what would cause Unity 13.04 to run with the POSIX locale? In /etc/environment LC_ALL is en_GB.utf8, ~/.bash* and ~/.profile have been removed, and when I log in to a VT the locale is set correctly [10:16] language and keyboard system tool says that everything is set correctly [10:18] chalcedony: ! [10:19] * bagpuss_thecat starts up Gnome instead, gets the correct locale, and decides to live with it for the day [10:20] bagpuss_thecat: I had that yesterday, removed US from locales in settings and it went back to normal [10:21] cool, I'll try that later. thanks [10:29] good morning eveyrone. [10:29] \o brobostigon [10:30] morning MartijnVdS [10:33] yo! [10:35] morning MooDoo [10:38] :source /home/andy/.byobu/profile [10:38] . /usr/bin/byobu-reconnect-sockets [10:38] :/ === xnox_ is now known as xnox === map is now known as Guest327 [11:57] success [11:57] Success? [11:59] its sunny, :) [12:04] * popey has the blind shut [12:04] cloudy here [12:04] :( [12:07] Anyone got any suggestions, very intermittently we get a 403 on our web page, sites worked fine for months.. nothings changed in the htaccess [12:07] Web host saying nothing is wrong, I can't recreate locally EVER [12:07] popey, did an install in virt-manager on a bios-based vm, from my steamos .iso [12:08] I was a little perplexed why it wasn't released as an iso in the first place [12:09] SuperMat1, reduce the target area === SuperMat1 is now known as SuperMatt [12:09] directhex: how so? [12:10] SuperMat1, BIOS DVD boot, BIOS USB boot, UEFI DVD boot and UEFI USB boot are all different & need subtle tweaking [12:10] ah right [12:12] though dd/cdrecord'ing the Ubuntu ISO to an USB stick or CD/DVD works great for all of those cases [12:13] well [12:13] except maybe bios usb boot? not sure about that one [12:15] MartijnVdS, that's through a bunch of extra work [12:15] directhex: yes, but it's all been done, so you don't have to twiddle bits yourself [12:15] MartijnVdS, unless you modify anything [12:16] directhex: aren't there scripts to re-fix it? [12:16] MartijnVdS, not particularly documented. mostly you just need a giant xorriso command-line, assuming you don't touch the package manifest [12:17] what a beautiful name for a tool though ;) [12:25] I have totally failed to get SteamOS to boot. VBox get stuck on UEFI and refuses to do anything. No big loss really, was just curious about it. [12:29] TwistedLucidity, boots fine for me now. next step: enable emulated 3d support [12:30] directhex: I got no idea what's wrong. I get to the UFEI prompt, try to launch the steam64.efi thing and....nothing happens. [12:31] Never used UEFI before, so I might be getting something wrong [12:31] directhex: what did you do to get it to boot? [12:31] gordonjcp, which bit? [12:32] directhex: SteamOS [12:32] gordonjcp, i've injected modified BIOS GRUB packages into the package tree & rebuilt all required manifests, and i've created a bootable el torito isohybrid disc by transplanting various isolinux files from wheezy's installer [12:32] sweet [12:33] I tried netbooting it to fake EFI but I got nowhere :-) === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:09] * foobarry needs a hug [13:09] * popey hugs foobarry [13:09] * popey tickles foobarry while hugging [13:09] important storage cluster been down since 00:12 on friday morning [13:10] D: [13:10] got home last niht and cralwed into bed straight away [13:10] sort of promised wifey wouldn't do that today [13:10] missed a roast dinner too [13:12] I got home at midnight last night, after an hour at the gym and four hours dancing... then I just couldn't sleep [13:12] not surprised [13:12] I'm so far beyond exhausted right now [13:12] surely gym and dancing are kind of duplicating the exercise [13:14] I had 2 hours to kill before dancing [13:14] so I went to the gym [13:14] you could have snoozed [13:14] or had a sauna at the gym [13:15] doesn't have a sauna [13:15] i've never been to a gym [13:15] i don't know what happens there [13:15] you pick up heavy things [13:15] mostly you feel inadequate compared to everyone else [13:15] and you pick up heavy things [13:15] I mostly do running and stuff [13:15] sometimes you pretend to run/cycle/row place [13:15] lol [13:15] s [13:16] you could run to the gym [13:16] I've got two speeds, slow and stop [13:16] then run home without going in [13:16] cheaper and less self loathing [13:16] although i'd like a running machine to tie doggy onto [13:16] sure, but when it's wet and dark out, like it is at the moment, it's just nice to be able to do your running indoors [13:17] treadmill [13:18] stairs [13:18] I don't have room for a treadmill and I don't have stairs ;) [13:19] stand in a machien room for 12 hours like i did yesterday [13:19] !sauna [13:23] mmmmm topic bar [13:48] facebook are doing auto playing video ads? [13:48] FAIL [13:49] NOOOO [13:49] I hate autoplaying video ads.. [13:49] time to move to G+ :) === msm is now known as Guest45580 [13:53] i dont want my family on g+ [13:53] keep my family pics and tech news separate! [13:54] autoplaying ads - how wonderful [13:54] that's why you have different circles [13:54] foobarry: ^ [13:56] dropbox down? [13:56] my icon has gone grey [13:56] on both computers [13:56] popey: maybe it's in the new block lists used by ISPs? [13:57] because it could be used for terrorism/child abuse/etc. [13:57] Mine has gone grey as well popey [13:57] ok. 3d enabled in the vmware driver on the dvd [13:57] hah [13:58] directhex: you should rename yourself to directh4x ;) [13:59] wonder which package provides virtualbox's 3d driver [13:59] directhex: is there one?! [14:00] it's probably part of the "guest additions"? [14:02] has anyone seen a bug/issue in android where you send a text to a number and they reply back and you cannot reply to them because 1 digit gets removed each time? [14:02] foobarry: never experienced that [14:03] me neither, the only bug I've seen that's even vaguely related is that my phone puts SMS messages out of order because the network fails to account for the timezone for received messages [14:03] dwatkins: at least that's not as buggy as one of my previous phones (a Palm with GSM features :) [14:04] dwatkins: With a SIM from country A, receiving an SMS country B while roaming in country C made the phone wipe itself [14:04] dwatkins: reproducibly [14:04] oh my [14:04] (at least with A=Vodafone-NL, B=Czech Republic, C=Germany) [14:05] me and my wife have it with certain numbers [14:05] that sounds like technological warfare ;) [14:05] a number starting 0781 becomes 081... [14:06] My mobile number used to start 0370, now it's 07770, but that's all due to the big number change of about 14 years ago [14:07] dwatkins: mine was a Palm Tungsten W.. late 2003 early 04 [14:07] dwatkins: I've had my number since around 2001 [14:08] oh wow http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/palm-tungsten-w/4505-6452_7-20897089.html [14:09] virtualbox-guest-x11 [14:09] after that, I got a Motorola E1000. Before that, a few Nokia phones [14:11] * MartijnVdS had a 3650 (with the circular keypad) [14:13] anyone recommend a decent low cost server for about 3/400 quids? I know about the microserver, just for running linux /web/mail/playing about ? [14:14] AWS :P [14:15] i want a physical box for my garage [14:15] * MartijnVdS thinks AlanBell and TheOpenSourcerer can help you for realz though [14:15] maybe even popey [14:15] Alan *, really 8_) [14:15] MooDoo: I've been running a VIA C700 Jetway mobo for about 4/5 years now. Has a 3TB hdd connected and 1GB ram. [14:15] TheOpenSourcerer: self build? [14:15] MooDoo: get a free poweredge 2950 from a friendly local [14:16] yep [14:16] V. low power [14:16] ~20 - 30W total [14:17] It runs a dlna server, samba file server, has run web and even Java apps too ;-) [14:17] foobarry: you mean like this one - r, samba file server, has run web and even Java app [14:17] MooDoo: definitely think about power uasage for something that'll be on all the time, 1W is about £1/year [14:17] http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dell-PowerEdge-2950-III-2X-2-00GHZ-QUAD-CORE-16GB-RAM-2-X-73GB-3-X-750-GB-PERC-/221337291352 [14:18] lots of people been giving stuff like that away [14:18] out of support contract, ripping them out of racks [14:18] not low power though ;) [14:18] this was/is it: http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2007/09/untangle-asterisk-pbx-and-file-server-all-in-one/ === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [14:22] that looks noisy [14:22] just from the picture [14:22] MooDoo: I have an old 1st Gen microserver and love it [14:22] it's done well [14:22] That dell server will SCREEAAMMM [14:23] i have a 2U server in my garage which i never turn on [14:23] (the old lug.org.uk box) [14:23] And EAT electricity [14:23] yeah [14:23] good for running esxi [14:24] foobarry: that's what I'm looking at :) [14:25] popey: can't you get them direct from HP? [14:26] if i was still in my old role i'd give you one for free [14:26] kinda outside my jursdiction now [14:26] ok seen them on amazon [14:27] we've had between 6-8 disks go bad on an array :-| [14:27] in a couple of days [14:27] what the heck is happening [14:27] cosmic rays. [14:28] yeah baby [14:28] We used to run the 2950's at work, about 50= of them [14:29] 50+ * [14:29] reliable machines [14:29] MooDoo: or maybe a 1950 [14:29] if you don't need loads of disks [14:31] MartijnVdS: there are DNA scanners in the same room... [14:31] foobarry: radiation leaks? [14:33] MooDoo: yeah, think so [14:42] They're very very noisy though! [14:43] hmmm might just even upgrade my nas from netgear to synology [14:48] ok, tested: out of the box 3d support on virtualbox, big picture runs [14:49] * foobarry hasn't won any toys on the advent calendar comps yet [15:02] tested: out of the box 3d support on vmware, gnome shell runs but haven't tried BP yet [15:08] MooDoo: the 2U server will be a bit noisy, but it is the 1U boxes that are the real screamers. Personally I would go for something sold as a desktop if the rack mount fixings are not the reason you are buying it [15:08] servers are rubbish - unless you need them, in which case they are OK [15:09] AlanBell: yeah I was thinking of a desktop might just simpler [15:09] servers take *ages* to boot up, are noisy and power hungry [15:09] I used a a old Optiplex as my server at work [15:10] dead quiet [15:11] diplo: I'm using an optiplex now, can get them cheap from mcscom.co.uk [15:11] optiplexi are nice [15:11] I'm trying to turn an old Mac Pro into a vmware server. [15:12] I got mine from my old work, they were chucking it out, bought some more ram and it's as ogood as newish [15:12] Would like an SS D in it but really can't afford one atm [15:13] diplo: I hear OCZs are going cheap 8-) [15:15] Wrong time of year for me unfortunatley with two young kids and a single dad :/ [15:15] See how I'm doing in Jan sales :) [15:17] diplo: I see how that would decrease the "computer toys" budget [16:46] mmm, got some limoncello in town as a christmas present to self === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [17:47] Laney: you must hate yourself 8-) [17:47] i loooooooooooooooooooooooove it === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD === Hornet- is now known as Hornet [18:54] Azelphur, iirc you have capacity to help seed linuxy torrents? [18:55] directhex: what are you after? [18:59] Azelphur, i'm putting together a steamos remix [19:00] daftykins: if you can talk me through the seeding process on a server, I should be able to help [19:08] if you send me the torrent file i'll seed it on my server [19:57] Evening all === joshmyers is now known as bubu [22:14] can someone try downloading magnet:?xt=urn:btih:b1efce9ea21632084db51c6e5fe922ce0849b17c&dn=yeoldesteamos-1.0beta1alpha1.iso ? [22:15] hey how do i install age of empires 2 on ubuntu 12.04 [22:17] arc__, um... i guess with wine [22:18] do i mount the iso and go ? [22:18] ok with the sarcasm [22:18] maybe? i think #winehq might be more help [22:18] kk [22:21] directhex: Works [22:21] Want me to keep it running, or just a test ? [22:23] diplo, well, this is my first release, so if you want to help share it, keep running :D [22:23] Will do, running/dling on my home server so will leave it on for a few days [22:23] Running from your home ? [22:26] yes [22:26] let's see if i can hammer through the router for more speed [22:27] hm, should be UPnP'd [22:28] Getting about 105 on average, 2 1/2 hours till completion [22:29] i have 16mbit up... [22:29] Oh.... :/ [22:29] and transmission says it's opened a upnp port [22:30] * popey suspects directhex is the 31.x address [22:30] :P [22:34] i'll see if wife's pc does better w/ a different client [22:37] directhex: do you have a torrent file? [22:37] not a magnet link [22:38] popey, um... yes. hang on [22:39] retro.apebox.org/yeoldesteamos-1.0beta1alpha1.iso.torrent [22:40] ta [22:40] away she goes [22:41] hmm [22:41] zero bytes transferring, seems to be trying to get to a tracker [22:42] Took a good minute or more for mine to start [22:48] hm. can we try again? i'll try making a new torrent w/ better trackers listed [22:51] Sure [22:58] evening all [22:59] http://directhex.github.io/steamos-installer/ [23:02] Going again now [23:03] seriously? workstation is 190gbp? [23:07] directhex: 200MB or so on each torrent [23:10] mine seems happy enough, it's just held back because there's only one complete copy so far [23:13] wish i knew how to improve that :/ [23:13] bt throttling? [23:13] okay, I'll admit android land is just confusing me; does nexus 4 get kitkat? [23:14] I'm only getting 50K/s down [23:14] wavers around [23:14] yeah same [23:14] you're around 25%? [23:14] Should be done by morning though [23:15] Not now, transmission-daemon got confused, so killed it and it broke so had to start a fresh :/ [23:16] I'm guessing 26% maybe popey on his VPS? looks like a bitfolk IP range :) [23:17] ya [23:17] other one is home [23:22] hm, 31. is now claiming it has 0% [23:22] restarted the torrent on my desktop, has helped a lot [23:25] 0 here [23:25] hang on... [23:25] not moving [23:25] grr, torrents /o\ [23:26] oh this is priceless. Porsche are offering 3d models of the Cayman S. Because it turns out people *do* want to download a car; http://www.porsche.com/international/cayman_3d/ [23:27] directhex: just blipped up to 300K/s [23:27] now back to 0 [23:28] keeps flipping up/down [23:30] lots of torrent clients don't support magnet or udp [23:30] 295.0 / 989.0 MB Rate: 160.4 / 86.9 KB Uploaded: 402.8 MB [29%] 0d 2:16 [ R: 1.36] [23:33] it doesn't seem broken, just slow. I'm just gonna ignore it and see what it looks like in the morning (I'm the 144. on a hetzner box) [23:38] i see only two peers [23:39] one is my vps, and we all have 34% [23:40] 11% here [23:40] I see 7. and only one's ipv6 :( [23:41] 7 peers in total over two trackers [23:43] desktop is finally seeding a little, slowly. wife's desktop is ~10x faster