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Kilosmorning superfly and others06:09
superflyhi Kilos06:12
ThatGraemeGuymorning all06:16
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy 06:16
superflyyo ThatGraemeGuy06:30
ThatGraemeGuy'lo fly06:36
Kilosno fair. xchat only shows graphical smileys in winsucks07:06
Kilosi like to see who sticks tongue out at me07:06
ThatGraemeGuyits called windows, don't sink to that level07:13
Kilossorry 07:14
Squirmmorning07:26
Kiloshi there Squirm bored already?07:26
Squirmit's been ok07:28
Squirmbeen keeping myself busy07:29
Kilosgood07:29
Kiloshi Vince-0 07:59
Vince-0Hi!08:01
charlgood morning all08:48
charlMaaz_: coffee on08:48
* Maaz_ flips the salt-timer08:48
charlhi Kilos, Vince-0, Squirm, ThatGraemeGuy 08:48
charland superfly 08:48
ThatGraemeGuyhi :)08:50
Maaz_Coffee's ready for charl!08:52
Vince-0!08:52
charlgot (one of) our outbound links updated this morning to 40gbps08:53
charli don't notice much of a difference though08:53
charlMaaz_: thanks08:53
Maaz_charl: Sure08:53
KilosMaaz_, hi08:56
* Maaz_ waves to Kilos08:56
Kiloshi charl 08:57
Kilosthats fast that08:57
oupateddieMorning great world09:08
* oupateddie Waves09:08
Kiloshi oupateddie 09:10
oupateddiehowzit09:11
Kiloslekker and you?09:12
oupateddietrying to play with kubuntu 13.1009:12
oupateddieInstalled in clean on the lappie09:12
oupateddiebut some small things I am not sure of yet09:13
Kilosfast hey09:13
Kilosor do you update same time09:13
Kilosok lemme reboot to kde09:13
oupateddiewell I got it installed and yes it is quite fast. Tell me how the hell do I arrange the icons on the desktop?09:14
superflyoupateddie: you don't, the "desktop" is not a place to store your icons09:18
oupateddieOK kindly enlighten me09:19
superflyyou can change it if you want, but there really isn't a reason to09:19
superflyoupateddie: if you want access to your often used programs, you can right-click on them in the menu and say "add to favourites"09:19
oupateddiewell then help. As I am an OLD gnome user09:19
superflythat'll add them to the front page of the menu09:19
oupateddieok09:19
superflyyou can also right-click on the item in the task bar and select "show a launcher when not running" and it'll leave the icon there when the app is not running (like on Windows 7)09:20
oupateddieok let me start from one point. I have no remoived the icons on the desktop asw ell as a second desktop I had09:21
oupateddieright now I want to add icons to some place where I can access them easily. I thus right-click and ad to favourites09:22
Kilosyip09:22
superflythen when you open the menu, they're there09:22
superflyor, start your app, and then right-click on its entry in the task bar and click on "show a launcher when not running" and it'll be on the task bar all the time09:23
Kilosalso if you want to run something you tick the blue launcher bottom left and type in the program you want to run and it will show09:25
Kilosoupateddie: superfly is the kde master here, him and inetpro 09:25
superflyI don't actually use the normal menu any more, I use something similar to Unity's dash called Homerun09:26
superflybut I prefer using my keyboard to my mouse :-)09:26
Kiloslol we arent all at your level superfly 09:26
oupateddieI also prefer keaboard09:26
oupateddieso where I get this Homerun09:27
KilosMaaz_: google Homerun for 13.10 kubuntu09:27
Maaz_Kilos: "How To Install Homerun Kicker 1.1.0 On Kubuntu 13.10/13.04/12.10 ..." http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-homerun-kicker-1-1-0-on-kubuntu-13-1013-0412-10-and-linux-mint-161514-using-kde/ :: "Kubuntu 13.10 Quick Look « openDarkwing" http://opendarkwing.com/kubuntu-13-10-quick-look/ :: "Kubuntu 13.04 Personal Setup, (+Homerun Launcher Re-Ordering ..."09:27
Maaz_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEJm7yI_u30 :: "homerun + kicker : “Blue-Shell” team - Launchp…09:27
* Kilos looks too09:28
oupateddieOK I'll get there in time. I have right clicked on the FireFox and aade09:30
oupateddieOK I see it on the taslbaar09:30
superflyoupateddie: I right-click on the icon and then set the keyboard shortcut to Windows+F109:33
superflythen I can press Meta+F1 and start typing my app name09:33
oupateddieOk I'm trying to install the homerun widget09:36
Kilossuperfly: did you have homerun on 12.04 too09:36
Kiloshi psyatw 09:45
Symmetriaholy crap there are some stupid people in this world09:46
psyatwhi Symmetria09:47
psyatwof course there are09:47
Symmetriasteers afrovan seriously just asked me if Kenya was an international destination while I was trying to get moving quotes09:48
* Symmetria double facepalms09:48
oupateddiewhat is an activity?09:50
superflyoupateddie: it's like a different style of interacting with your desktop (I think)10:05
oupateddieWas on the phone, thanks 10:12
Kilossjoe10:13
Squirminternet10:31
Squirmis painfully slow10:31
SquirmI miss my internet10:31
Kilosdont rush man you on holiday10:37
Squirmso when I'm stuck at my parents house and have nothing to do but sit and watch a painfully slow download of the latest How I met your Mother...11:09
SquirmI musn't rush ?11:09
Squirm:/11:09
SquirmI can't rush11:09
Squirmsadly, I think I'm going to cut my losses and download the lower quality version :(11:10
Squirmnon-HD quality on an HD TV, when you're used to watching HD, looks shocking 11:11
charltaking a look at pycharm now11:20
charlit's a proprietary product although it does seem to have a dumbed-down open source version11:20
charlbut for a python ide, that looks really grown up11:21
Kiloshaha11:23
Symmetriaheh everyone ready for a very dark day on the internet?12:12
Squirmno :/12:13
Squirmmy internet is pretty dead anyway12:13
Symmetriaheh, the routing table just got 2 large for a large number of deployed routers on the internet to handle12:15
Symmetriawe're on the verge of a pretty catastrophic event that people are gonna have to run around fixing ;p12:15
Squirmlol12:15
Squirmwow12:15
charllol12:24
charlit's about time we hit some hurdles again... it was going far too well for my taste12:24
Symmetriacharl lol, its a minature y2k bug of ciscos creation 12:25
charli'm sure they will fix it shortly with an ios update, if they haven't already12:25
Symmetriacant be fixed with an ios update 12:25
Symmetriaits a setting that has to be done outside of ios 12:25
Symmetriaand haha no one updates ios unless there is a problem12:26
Symmetriaso whats gonna happen is, half the internet is gonna screw out, and THEN people are gonna start fixing12:26
Symmetriaand you're looking at a day or 2 of chaos12:26
Symmetriaat least12:26
charlsounds like fun12:26
charlserves people right for using cisco :P12:27
Symmetriayes cisco can die in a fire12:29
Symmetriagimme juniper kthx12:29
charli was looking at metafabric just now12:30
Symmetriaheh in the routing world you really have 4 choices on the higher end12:30
Symmetriacisco12:30
Symmetriajuniper12:30
Symmetriahuawei12:30
Symmetriaand alcatel12:30
Symmetriaalcatel will make baby Jesus weep 12:30
Symmetriahuawei you need to hire a translator if you want any support12:30
charlyeah i was about to say... alcatel... really?12:30
Symmetriacisco, well, cisco is just... cisco ;p12:31
Symmetriacharl heh, ALU stuff works, its just horrific to configure12:31
Symmetriashockingly, they actually hold a HUGE percentage of the market12:31
Symmetriathey have a 25% market share in the high end routing market 12:31
Symmetriabut I hate their stuff12:31
charlbah12:32
charlat home i have a ubee cpe device but it's a complete piece of carp12:43
charli just connect myself directly to the damn thing with an ethernet cable12:43
charlthe wifi is so bad it doesn't stretch for more than 5 metre i think12:44
charlwb Kilos 12:47
Kilosty12:47
Kilosno idea what happened but anyway12:47
Kiloshi cmsch 12:48
cmschhi Kilos.  I'm just lurking12:51
Kilosthats fine cmsch 12:53
charlthis is quite interesting12:53
charlearlier this year, google decided to move away from xmpp12:53
Kiloswhat can you teach us. lurking is boring12:53
charlmicrosoft, on the other hand, is moving towards xmpp http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Lync_Server#XMPP12:53
charl"Lync Server has an XMPP gateway server to federate with external XMPP servers."12:54
charl"With Lync Server 2013 - XMPP is natively part of the product"12:54
charlso much for google...12:54
Kiloscharl: you on kde?12:54
charlKilos: no on i312:55
Kiloseish12:55
charli do have kde running in a VM though12:55
charlyou need something?12:55
Kilosi did a kde upgrade on 12.04 and now the bottom panel is black so i cant see my 10 workspaces12:56
charlno idea, i'm running 13.10 here in the vm12:57
charlwhich theme are you using? oxygen?12:57
Kilosyeah 12:57
charlmaybe it might help moving back to air12:57
charloxygen just seems to be borked12:57
charloxygen is known to be buggy in any case12:58
Kilosok ty lemme try that12:58
Kilosdoesnt change anything13:02
Kiloseverything on air now13:02
Kilosi dunno if it would need a reboot to show13:03
charlseems like you hit a weird bug there13:04
Kiloshttp://askubuntu.com/questions/70694/how-to-change-color-transparency-of-all-desktop-panels13:04
Kilosfollowed that but no change13:04
Kilosgrrr13:04
Kiloshmm...15:00
Kilosdu8e to incomplete upgrade charl 15:01
Kilosdue as well15:01
Kilosfixed now but in my morning fiddles i ticked number workspaces and now cant find that to switch it off15:02
Kilosdomdonner15:02
Kilosoh my, lightning hit tower, so signal but irc working17:41
KilosMaaz_, coffee on17:41
* Maaz_ flips the salt-timer17:41
KilosMaaz_, quck17:42
Maaz_Kilos: Sorry...17:42
KilosMaaz_, quick17:42
Maaz_Kilos: What?17:42
Kilosai!17:42
KilosMaaz_, quickly17:42
Maaz_Kilos: What?17:42
KilosMaaz_, hurry17:42
Maaz_Making decent coffee is an art Kilos and should never be rushed17:42
Kilosinetpro, kry jy darem bietjie reen?17:43
Maaz_Coffee's ready for Kilos!17:45
KilosMaaz_, thanks17:46
Maaz_Kilos: Okay :-)17:46
Kiloshi psychicist 17:49
psychicisthi Kilos 17:49
Kilospsychicist, i see maverick.com is an entertainment company18:07
Kiloswhat you doing there18:08
Kilosyou gonna sing and dance for us18:08
inetprogood evening18:08
inetproKilos: ja dankie18:08
Kiloshi inetpro 18:08
inetprobaie lekker gereen hier18:08
Kilosmooi dit reen nog hier maar nie hard nie18:09
inetproselle hier18:09
Kiloslisten to the falling rain, listen to it fall18:09
psychicistKilos, is it?18:10
inetprowhat does it tell you Kilos?18:10
psychicistgoedenavond inetpro 18:10
inetpropsychicist: hi18:11
Kilosthe rain inetpro ?18:11
Kilostells me grass will grow and sheep will vreet dik18:11
Kilospsychicist,  "Maverick - An Entertainment Company" http://www.maverick.com/18:12
Kilosand heres what i see for you18:13
Kilos(~psychicis@nat-192-168-32-0-rw3.maverick.com.pl18:13
psychicistKilos, you see, I'm a fervent supporter of entertainment for the masses18:14
Kiloslol18:14
psychicisteven here in Poland18:14
psychiciston television, on the radio, on the internet18:15
psychicistyou name it18:15
psychicisthttp://www.maverick.com.pl/18:15
Kilosgood man18:15
Kiloswhew18:16
SymmetriaI prefer mwww.mavericks.co.za ;p18:20
* Symmetria grins18:20
Symmetriaooops18:20
Symmetriawww.mavericks.co.za I mean 18:20
Kilosnight all. sleep tight19:26
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