[00:00] <yahyaa> does anyone know how to set your default browser in kubuntu so it will stop looking for rekonq, I removed it and installed firefox!!!
[00:00] <hitsujiTMO> firmware92: soryu forgot thew +. you should specify the full path to date for scripts
[00:00] <hitsujiTMO> firmware92: /bin/date
[00:01] <LvMises> What's a good movie soundtrack to listen to?
[00:01] <firmware92> hitsujiTMO: im kinda a derpy new nooby user, what dose it mean for full path?
[00:01] <ikonia> LvMises: not an ubuntu issue
[00:01] <LvMises> What's a good movie soundtrack to listen to on Rhythembox, in Ubuntu?
[00:01] <LvMises> :P
[00:01] <ikonia> LvMises: not an ubuntu issue
[00:02] <bpds> Hello everyone!
[00:02] <LvMises> o/
[00:02] <AvengerLives> Hello
[00:02] <hitsujiTMO> firmware92: depending on how the script is being called, there may not be a $PATH set. so the system may not know to look in /bin for the date command. same with avconv. you can find the full path by typing: which avconv
[00:03] <hitsujiTMO> firmware92: as in the full path for the date command is: /bin/date
[00:03] <Gelos> is it possible to connect multiplay vlans by trunk to ubuntu and create virtual nics ?
[00:03] <firmware92> hitsujiTMO: my gosh, i may give up on useing the cli to convert my media files, any gui apps that can do what my script is doing?
[00:03] <ikonia> Gelos: yes, bonding and tun or bridge devices
[00:04] <bpds> Anyone know how to get an Ralink rt3090 card working with kernel 3.11.0-14-generic?
[00:04] <hitsujiTMO> firmware92: its not a difficult thing to do at all. If you're calling the scripts yourself then there is going to be a $PATH set.
[00:05] <firmware92> hitsujiTMO: i was exec them via thunar
[00:05] <onetinsoldier> anyone recommend a good image upload site?
[00:05] <TJ-> Gelos: yes, you can use 802.11ad
[00:05] <firmware92> hitsujiTMO: should i call it from bash?
[00:05] <hitsujiTMO> firmware92: then you're fine. It's just if you want to start automating it then you might want to fix such issues/
[00:05] <Gelos> @ikonia what packages would i have to use? vlan ?
[00:06] <ikonia> Gelos: package ? it's part of the kernel
[00:06] <hitsujiTMO> firmware92: just start the script with: #!/bin/bash and it will always be called with bash. In userspace the default shell is bash anyhow
[00:06] <Gelos> to associate each vlan to each virtual nic?
[00:06] <induz> I m using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS-Lucid ... how can I add Lexmark x4550 printer to it as lexmark does not have Linux dri
[00:06] <ikonia> Gelos: correct
[00:07] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, is there any issue with using 5500mb Ext4 partition for /, 315mb Swap, and the rest in Ext4 for /home/?
[00:07] <firmware92> hitsujiTMO: so your saying that  my   `date %T`  sould be  `date+%T`
[00:07] <Gelos> so using this (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/vlan#Installation) is not needed?
[00:07] <hitsujiTMO> LordNed: no, but I'd wouldn't seperate /home for such a small install
[00:07] <ikonia> Gelos: no idea what that is
[00:08] <ubuntunoob> hello all i have a question
[00:08] <hitsujiTMO> firmware92: `date +%T`
[00:08] <nagerst> Hi
[00:08] <firmware92> hitsujiTMO:  kk thx
[00:08] <ubuntunoob> how do i change into a different folder in termail
[00:08] <TJ-> Gelos: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding
[00:08] <Gelos> @TJ- thank you!
[00:08] <nagerst> I have some problems with the kms driver. How do i set terminal resolution to 1920x1080@60hz as it should be.
[00:08] <k1l_> ubuntulog: "cd /new/path/"
[00:09] <hitsujiTMO> !manual | ubuntulog you kinda need this
[00:09] <ubuntunoob> what you mean /new/path??
[00:09] <davek> hi
[00:09] <k1l_> ubuntunoob: it could be /home/user/Desktop
[00:09] <nagerst> ubuntunoob: likely /%makeupyourown%/
[00:10] <ubuntunoob> ok i want to go to my  downloads folder how do i do that
[00:10] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, thanks. Also I unplugged the network cable since XUbuntu installer ignores the unchecking of "install updates" lol
[00:11] <k1l_> ubuntunoob: "cd Downloads"
[00:11] <ubuntunoob> it sayes bash: cd : downloads: no such file or directory
[00:11] <hitsujiTMO> :P
[00:11] <k1l_> and keep in mind, that its case sensitive and you can use the "tab" key to let the name complete. just make a "cd Down" and hit tab 2 times
[00:12] <ubuntunoob> so i open up a terminal and type what sudo su
[00:12] <k1l_> ubuntunoob: no, never
[00:12] <ubuntunoob> then... what
[00:13] <Gelos> @TJ- I'm trying to connect couple of vlans by trunk to a single NIC (eth0)
[00:13] <k1l_> ubuntunoob: you never need sudo su.  that is the beginning to most problem situations.
[00:13] <induz>  I m using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS-Lucid. How can I add Lexmark x4550 printer to it as lexmark does not have Linux driver for it??
[00:13] <firmware92> thanks for the help guys
[00:13] <k1l_> ubuntunoob: just type "cd Down" and hit tab 2 times. that will complete the name and then hit enter
[00:13] <ctracey> hey folks...question about package verification.  I am using my own PPA, but one of the packages is not verifying ...anyone think of a reason that may be?
[00:14] <yahyaa> some of my gui's look strange, like wierd colors, can anyone help???
[00:14] <ctracey> these were all built via launchpad obviously
[00:14] <Gelos> @ikonia in my case I have few vlans that needs to be connected to a single NIC
[00:14] <Physicist> yahyaa: Weird collor? Can you be a lil' more specific?
[00:14] <ubuntunoob> no such file or directy
[00:15] <ubuntunoob> i just need to get into my downloads folder how do i do that?????????????//
[00:16] <k1l_> ubuntunoob: "ls" shows all possible folders
[00:16] <funky> guys where I can find pcre.h or the Perl Compatible Regular Expressions library?
[00:16] <Physicist> ubuntunoob: Bash is used to run executables files.
[00:16] <funky> I tried apt-get install pcre its yet to woek
[00:16] <k1l_> ubuntunoob: important is, that you dont do stuff with sudo. that will change the user and you will not see the stuff you downloaded as your user
[00:16] <funky> work
[00:16] <AvengerLives> in terminal type: cd ~/Downloads
[00:17] <Physicist> AvengerLives: Exactely..
[00:17] <ubuntunoob> ahhhhhhh it sayes no such file or directy wtf
[00:17] <AvengerLives> ok
[00:18] <AvengerLives> what is the output of these commands: cd /home; ls -al
[00:18] <k1l_> ubuntunoob: what does "pwd"  give you?
[00:18] <Physicist> or /Home - cd ~/
[00:18] <AvengerLives> even cd ~
[00:18] <glitsj16> funky: you can search where that is located and which packages has it through: sudo dpkg -S pcre.h
[00:19] <AvengerLives> ubuntunoob: please open a fresh terminal and type the command: ls -al
[00:19] <mustafa_> Hi
[00:20] <Gelos> Thanks everyone problem solved
[00:20] <turtle> hey guys
[00:20] <onetinsoldier> hello
[00:20] <ubuntunoob> ok now what:
[00:20] <AvengerLives> ubuntunoob: this will list everything in your user directory
[00:20] <turtle> i have a problem
[00:20] <funky> glitsj16: dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern *pcre.h*.
[00:20] <AvengerLives> do you see the list?
[00:20] <ubuntunoob> yes
[00:20] <mustafa_> Hello turtle
[00:20] <funky> its required to install vanity address generator
[00:20] <funky> hehe
[00:20] <pkloho> how do I check the chipset for my pcmcia card in my laptop? LSPCI does not display information on the card
[00:20] <AvengerLives> ubuntunoob: is Downloads one of the items?
[00:20] <turtle> how can i remove the skype notification icon from the panel
[00:20] <turtle> ?
[00:20] <ubuntunoob> yes
[00:20] <AvengerLives> excellent
[00:21] <trism> funky: libpcre3-dev
[00:21] <AvengerLives> ubuntunoob: now type cd "Downloads"
[00:21] <turtle> its really messing the fung shuei of my whole appearance
[00:21] <trism> funky: you could use apt-file if you wanted to search packages in the repo, dpkg -S only searches installed packages
[00:21] <AvengerLives> ubuntunoob: so long as "Downloads is exactly as it appeared on the list (caps etc
[00:22] <AvengerLives> ubuntunoob: once you have done that you should once again issue the : ls -al command
[00:22] <AvengerLives> that will list your Downloads
[00:22] <ubuntunoob> omg!!!! i didnt do the capital D
[00:22] <ubuntunoob> really
[00:22] <ubuntunoob> lol it worked
[00:23] <AvengerLives> ubuntunoob: I'm very glad
[00:23] <AvengerLives> ubuntunoob: Remember, Unix Systems care about capitalization, unlike Windows
[00:23] <Physicist> Effective..
[00:24] <AvengerLives> Which is far superior if you ask me due to the robust possibilities....
[00:24] <omigasun> ubuntunoob: unix is case sensitive
[00:24] <AvengerLives> ubuntunoob: I hope you enjoy Linux as much as we do.
[00:24] <ubuntunoob> thanks everybody
[00:24] <AvengerLives> ubuntunoob: NP
[00:25] <resizt0r> when i start the ubuntu livecd it tries to connect many times claiming it is "assigning ip address" but then eventually it just quits trying
[00:25] <MarGul> I am reinstalling my OS and I have ssh-key set up with my webserver. Is it the id_rsa or id_rsa.pub that I should backup and put in to my new OS?
[00:26] <funky> trism cheers! :D
[00:26] <resizt0r> ubuntu has worked on this machine in the past with no special configurations
[00:26] <nocterna1> MarGul: You will need both, I believe.
[00:26] <hitsujiTMO> MarGul: both, but mainly id_rsa ... you can regen a .pub from the private key
[00:27] <AvengerLives> Both
[00:28] <AvengerLives> resizt0r: sounds like a dhcp issue
[00:28] <nocterna1> MarGul: the .pub file goes in your servers ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file... and your ssh client will use the private portion - id_rsa.
[00:29] <resizt0r> in my router i have dhcp setup to assign this machine the same IP at all times
[00:29] <MarGul> nocterna1: Thanks, I will backup both of them but that was what I figured. Thanks :)
[00:30] <nocterna1> resizt0r: do you have multiple NIC's on this PC. maybe 'eth0' is no longer the same?
[00:31] <zingchan> anyone have an idea why I cannot get access via any service from outside my network? firewall is disabled for testing. ports fowarded. ontop of that, my centOS servers work just fine
[00:31] <zingchan> anything I am missing?
[00:31] <AvengerLives> resizt0r: the static ip that you are hoping to achieve should be setup on the machine itself rather than the router
[00:32] <AvengerLives> resizt0r: by this i mean you should modify the Network Settings either through the GUI or by modifying the /etc/network/interfaces file
[00:32] <AirstrikeIvanov> Hey guys - i just got ubuntu 13 installed finally and trying to set up 32bit libraries, specifically "ia32-libs" and "ia32-libs-gtk" but apt-get is giving me a major runaround on it about other packages instead, what do i do?
[00:33] <karstensrage> where is the proper place to add a mime type
[00:33] <karstensrage> do you edit /etc/apache2/conf.d/mods-available/mime.conf?
[00:34] <resizt0r> No it only has the onboard NIC built into the motherboard
[00:34] <Physicist> AirstrikeIvanov: Can you paste the output?
[00:34] <resizt0r> http://oi40.tinypic.com/25slzbt.jpg
[00:34] <resizt0r> this is a pic of my dhcp setup
[00:34] <TheLordOfTime> karstensrage, depends on the package, are you talking about Apache's mime types?
[00:34] <nocterna1> resizt0r: if it worked before... then make sure your MAC address is still the same (not that it should change...)
[00:35] <resizt0r> how would i know if it changed
[00:35] <nocterna1> resizt0r: but any reason for using DHCP reservation instead of using static IP addresses?
[00:35] <AvengerLives> Static Ip makes more sense
[00:36] <resizt0r> well last time i had linux installed it was a hassle with changing ip's
[00:36] <AvengerLives> # The loopback network interface
[00:36] <karstensrage> TheLordOfTime, yes
[00:36] <AvengerLives> auto lo
[00:36] <AvengerLives> iface lo inet loopback
[00:36] <AvengerLives> #The primary network interface
[00:36] <AvengerLives> auto eth0
[00:36] <AvengerLives> iface eth0 inet static
[00:36] <FloodBot1> AvengerLives: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:36] <resizt0r> since the other pc's in the house access files off this pc regularly
[00:36] <nocterna1> resizt0r: your router DHCP reservation will have the MAC address, on your new livecd boot, type '/sbin/ifconfig' and compare the two entries
[00:37] <AvengerLives> That output was an example /etc/network/interfaces file
[00:37] <resizt0r> i cant do that when i boot ubuntu
[00:37] <resizt0r> because it wont connect to the router
[00:37] <resizt0r> i could copy it down first i guess
[00:37] <kenetik> Hello, I've got a Dedicated Server running Ubuntu 13.04 with Remote KVM capability. I'm currently trying to access it and receiving a rather nasty message. Screen Shot: http://i.imgur.com/XglbhaG.png | Quoting the error: "fsck from util-linux 2.20.1 /dev/cciss/c0d0p1: clean, 235410/36618420 files, 6034011,146467854 blocks Skipping adding existing rule The disk drive for /tmp is not ready yet or not present. keys: Continue to wait, or
[00:37] <kenetik> Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery. | (Apologies for typos in that.) | I have attempted 'waiting' for hours, with no progress, I've also skipped, and am unable to do anything really. // Any advice on a resolution for this?
[00:37] <karstensrage> TheLordOfTime, so is that where i add a type for apache mime types?
[00:37] <TheLordOfTime> karstensrage, give me a moment, I think i read somewhere it uses its own mime.types thing, as well as another mime.types thing in the system...
[00:37] <karstensrage> oh ok
[00:37] <nocterna1> resizt0r: ah, only one computer available.  That'd make things a little more difficult.  Go old school - paper and pencil as you mentioned.
[00:38] <karstensrage> there is /etc/mime.types
[00:38] <resizt0r> i have more pc's
[00:38] <zingchan> anyone have an idea why I cannot get access via any service from outside my network? firewall is disabled for testing. ports fowarded. ontop of that, my centOS servers work just fine
[00:38] <resizt0r> i can go get a laptop
[00:39] <kenetik> zingchan: Can you access outside from the computers? Just not outside to the computers?
[00:39] <LordNed> Gah
[00:39] <LordNed> This probably explains why the XUbuntu install takes so long
[00:39] <nocterna1> zingchan: default gateway set correctly?
[00:39] <LordNed> "xubuntu kernal: [18000.971213] Write-error on swap-device (8:16:1056)
[00:39] <zingchan> default gateway is set. it's a minecraft server thats being setup. centOS currently runs mine and it works fine with the same ports fowarded
[00:40] <zingchan> I shall double check real quick, I cannot even get SSH access from another network
[00:40] <nocterna1> zingchan: that's usually a default-route/gateway issue: not being able to access host from other networks.
[00:40] <resizt0r> im currently downloading Ubuntu 13.10 for this testing, does standard ubuntu with unity have better multi-display options than kubuntu/xubuntu?
[00:42] <zingchan> does some sort of default route need to be set in the OS
[00:42] <zingchan> can't imagine why there would need to be
[00:42] <zingchan> everything works fine on my LAN
[00:42] <nocterna1> zingchan: only if youre using static IP addresses, otherwise your dhcp server will assign it (if you DHCP server is configured correctly).
[00:43] <zingchan> I have a static IP setup and my ports fowarded to that IP
[00:43] <zingchan> set the ip, netmask and gateway in /etc/network/interfaces
[00:43] <nocterna1> zingchan: then yes, you have to set a gateway.
[00:44] <nocterna1> try 'netstat -rn'... you should have one line with a destination of 0.0.0.0
[00:44] <zingchan> yeah, destination 0.0.0.0 to my 10.0.1.1 router IP
[00:45] <nocterna1> zingchan: and you can ping 10.0.1.1 from this machine?
[00:45] <zingchan> yep
[00:45] <nocterna1> can you ping 8.8.8.8 :)
[00:45] <zingchan> everything works fine internally. the minecraft server I can access on the LAN, ssh on the LAN
[00:45] <zingchan> pings 8.8.8.8 just fine too
[00:45] <TheLordOfTime> karstensrage, yeah, I think you might try editing /etc/mime.types first... if that fails, then either mod_mime, or define the mimetype in the site's .htaccess
[00:46] <nocterna1> zingchan: ok, so routing is good.  How did you disable your firewall?
[00:46] <zingchan> I shall check my 2811 router configuration for the ports foward and I am not derping up the access list
[00:46] <zingchan> sudo dfw disable
[00:46] <TheLordOfTime> karstensrage, AFAICT it *is* possible to define the mime-type for a specific site alone, and not Apache-wide, by using the .htaccess, with the syntax formatting of: "AddType MIMETYPE .extension"
[00:46] <zingchan> sorry, ufw
[00:46] <TheLordOfTime> karstensrage, (for example: AddType video/quicktime .qt .mov )
[00:47] <zingchan> dunno if this is related, but everytime the server reboots, I need to set a nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf.
[00:48] <nocterna1> zingchan: I haven't using linux firewall in 6+ yrs, but what does 'iptables -L -v -n' show
[00:48] <nocterna1> zingchan: there should be three default chains, all set to policy ACCEPT.
[00:49] <nocterna1> zingchan: INPORT,FORWARD,OUTPUT I think
[00:49] <zingchan> all are set to accept
[00:49] <AvengerLives> zingchan: based on your need to reset a nameserver, i believe you have a conflicting process and interfaces file; i.e. your Network Manager might be trying to manage your network and overriding your interfaces and resolv.conf files
[00:50] <nocterna1> what port is your minecraft running on?
[00:50] <AvengerLives> There are a few articles concerning this resolv issue on Google
[00:50] <nocterna1> zingchan: do a 'netstat -nat | grep <minecraft-port>'
[00:50] <zingchan> usually I have 3 running, ports 25535, 25575, and 25585.
[00:50] <nocterna1> zingchan: pick on of them, or check all three.
[00:51] <zingchan> starting a server now
[00:51] <Zorin> copied "Documents" folder to desktop via "home" > "right click folder" > "copy to" > " desktop"    but new documents only show in home folder "but not in the copied folder now on the desktop"
[00:51] <Zorin> please help
[00:51] <zingchan> set to listen
[00:52] <zingchan> tcp6?
[00:52] <zingchan> :::25535
[00:52] <AvengerLives> Zorin: are you familiar with symbolic links?
[00:53] <nocterna1> zingchan: should be ok, that means it's listening on all interfaces on the machine.  Sometimes some services start on localhost/::1 only.
[00:53] <nocterna1> Zorin: AvengerLives stole my line! :}
[00:53] <AvengerLives> you could try this with the terminal:
[00:53] <Zorin> no I have wondered the diference between "make link" and "copy"
[00:53] <induz>  lexmark x4550 on Lucid ??
[00:54] <induz> is there a driver for it
[00:54] <nocterna1> zingchan: I need to step away for about an hour.  Not sure what the issue is... nothing simple or anything I can think of now! :)
[00:54] <zingchan> all good, thank you very much for your help
[00:54] <induz> dont know how to add this printer
[00:54] <zingchan> I'll keep looking into it
[00:54] <AvengerLives> Zorin: ln -s ~/Documents ~/Desktop/Documents_Shortcut
[00:54] <induz> anyone could help
[00:54] <nocterna1> zingchan: you said other boxes work fine... are they using the same ip address and ports?
[00:55] <Zorin> do I need to link them instead of copy them to the desktop?
[00:55] <AvengerLives> Zorin: this creates a symbolic link to your desktop
[00:55] <AvengerLives> Zorin: yes
[00:55] <nocterna1> zingchan: you an only forward a port to one addresses ata time.
[00:55] <AvengerLives> Zorin: linking is like a redirect
[00:55] <om> hi)
[00:55] <AvengerLives> Zorin: copying to the desktop is a mistake due to ram limitations
[00:55] <zingchan> different IPs, same ports but I only have one port forwarded to the IP
[00:55] <AvengerLives> Zorin: Make sense?
[00:56] <Zorin> Thank you that makes sense.
[00:56] <AvengerLives> Zorin:  NO glad to help
[00:56] <AvengerLives> Zorin: NP*
[00:56] <nocterna1> Zorin: a symbolic link is to files what a hyperlink is to the web
[00:56] <Zorin> Awesome! :)  ttyl
[00:57] <pkloho> does ubuntu read pcmcia?
[00:57] <zingchan> I am a CCNP, so I am sure my actual network of routers/switches is setup as it should be
[00:57] <ClientAlive> I accidentally deleted the entire contents of /var on my ubuntu 13.10. Please, can someone tell me is there a way to replace the default content?
[00:57] <zingchan> and if not, I am a complete idiot :P but I did check that first
[00:58] <ClientAlive> Question... Is the content of /var in the 13.10 iso the same as that in the final installation?
[00:58] <LordNed> Stiiilll waiting on this install :(
[00:59] <ClientAlive> Or... would the contents of /var be regenerated upon a reboot?
[00:59] <ClientAlive> Or could my system be unbootable now bc of the missing content?
[01:01] <LordNed> I think "Copying Files..." has frozen :/
[01:01] <AvengerLives> ClientAlive: does you system run apache2 or other services that employ the /var directory?
[01:02] <AvengerLives> ClientAlive: more to the point; are you aware of the previous contents of your /var directory?
[01:03] <AvengerLives> In terms of bootability - I don't know, but I would consider backup of my /home directory before giving that a go
[01:04] <otak_> ClientAlive: /var contains all logs, some configuration, all package management, I think you need it
[01:05] <ClientAlive> AvengerLives: It does run apache2, but the way I found out about the problem was by trying to install something. And, no, not sure what it's content exactly. I have mysql, apache2, was trying to install redmine the other day but ran into a prob with it. I do recall that the contents of /var were only about 7 or 8 dirs and maybe a couple hidden dirs.
[01:06] <otak_> it also contains some lock files and your crontabs
[01:07] <AvengerLives> ClientAlive: otak is correct about the logs being located there by default.
[01:07] <ClientAlive> AvengerLives: If I could get my hands on the default content and dump it back in there I think I would at least hava an opperational system. If thinkgs like apache or mysql, konversation, whatever - didn't regenerate, I could deal with that later
[01:07] <michagogo|cloud> ClientAlive: I suspect you'll find apt-get et al are unhappy
[01:08] <AvengerLives> well the default folder structure is thus: drwxr-xr-x 1 root root  140 Jun 21 08:05 .
[01:08] <AvengerLives> drwxr-xr-x 1 root root  320 Dec 16 07:59 ..
[01:08] <AvengerLives> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root    3 Jun 21 08:12 backups
[01:08] <AvengerLives> drwxr-xr-x 1 root root  260 May  4  2013 cache
[01:08] <AvengerLives> drwxr-xr-x 1 root root  540 Dec 16 07:59 lib
[01:08] <AvengerLives> drwxrwsr-x 2 root staff   3 Apr 19  2012 local
[01:08] <FloodBot1> AvengerLives: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:08] <ClientAlive> michagogo|cloud: Yes. Cannot run software center or do apt-get install * from command line
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[01:10] <AirstrikeIvanov> does anyone know how to get i386 apps to work on amd64 installations of ubuntu?
[01:10] <HeathHayle> Could I install pear os via apt get?
[01:11] <nocterna1> zingchan: I'm back for a bit... still no luck? :)
[01:12] <otak_> LordNed: packages.ubuntu.com is down for me
[01:12] <LordNed> otak_, wrong ping I think ;)
[01:12] <HeathHayle> Does anyone know?
[01:13] <otak_> http too
[01:13] <Beldar> HeathHayle, It is a whole OS you have to install it from an iso
[01:14] <HeathHayle> Oh ok thanks is it any good do you know?
[01:14] <AirstrikeIvanov> does anyone know if dpkg --add-architecture i386 is wise on my 64bit system to install 32bit packages?
[01:14] <Beldar> HeathHayle, Never tried it, I would be most concerned for support if that was a general need is all.
[01:15] <zingchan> nocterna1: still no luck indeed
[01:15] <HeathHayle> Oh I am just trung to get a mac look on linux
[01:15] <resizt0r> ok
[01:16] <resizt0r> i have the pc that wont assign ip address booted on the ubuntu 13.10 livecd
[01:16] <zingchan> I've been double checking that my network is fine, as I thought it's setup as it should be
[01:16] <resizt0r> the mac address matches the mac address my router shows
[01:16] <HeathHayle> How do I strip back a ubuntu distro to minimal?
[01:16] <nocterna1> zingchan: so you mentioned centos working fine (first off, nothing wrong using that... :)
[01:16] <nocterna1> zingchan: Is that centos machine using the same ports for its MC?
[01:17] <nocterna1> zingchan: same IP address as well?
[01:17] <zingchan> yeah I know, but ubuntu is a lot more efficient for MC
[01:17] <Beldar> HeathHayle, the desktop looks basically like the fallback and a cairo-dock in ubuntu
[01:17] <zingchan> different IP, centos is .146, ubuntu is .96
[01:17] <zingchan> centOS machine is shutdown while I am trying to do this
[01:18] <nocterna1> zingchan: no worries  - just a thought.  Besdies this is #ubuntu instead of #centos :)
[01:18] <HeathHayle> Oh does it not worth it then I am trying to get macbuntu to work but having problems
[01:18] <zingchan> yep, I've heard from a bunch of my buddies to switch over as it's more efficient
[01:20] <nocterna1> zingchan: hehe, I don't really care either.  I'm more of a gentoo person on 'server' type setups.  Never played MC myself anyways!
[01:21] <nocterna1> zingchan: So the centos install was using the same IP address and ports as this ubuntu install?
[01:21] <zingchan> different IPs, same ports but centOS is shutdown
[01:21] <sn33zy> i have ubuntu 12.04 with a broken ethernet card.  i am trying to set up my hotspot and i know how to set it up on the host... but I am having trouble connecting a guest ubuntu 12.04 to the ad-hoc providing computer
[01:21] <zingchan> while I am trying to connect outside the network. so there are no port conflicts
[01:22] <zingchan> both are forwarded, but only one server is running using those ports. never seen this be an issue before
[01:23] <Beldar> HeathHayle, If you want support here, you might consider what's in the ubuntu repos is all, in general linux offers a wider app base and is free and mostly open source, much cooler than apple in my opinion
[01:23] <nocterna1> zingchan: I don't think your router can send the -same- port to two computers inside your network.
[01:23] <HeathHayle> Lol fair enough how to I make my linux verson a miniumal version?
[01:24] <dunpeal> How come does Ubuntu 12.04 not have $XDG_CONFIG_HOME defined?
[01:24] <zingchan> hmm let me test this out by using 25595
[01:24] <Beldar> HeathHayle, making it from what you have not sure, but you can do a net install and add just what you want on top- of the base.
[01:25] <nocterna1> zingchan: what kind of router are you using, anyways?  dd-wrt, openwrt?
[01:25] <zingchan> hehe, cisco 2811
[01:25] <zingchan> cisco IOS
[01:25] <nocterna1> zingchan: nice:  ZBF or CBAC?
[01:25] <sn33zy> i click the adhoc network on the guest and it doesnt do anything
[01:26] <Beldar> HeathHayle, what release do you have as of now?
[01:26] <zingchan> good ole access lists
[01:26] <zingchan> CBAC
[01:26] <nocterna1> zingchan: I used to have 2811, but with ZBF it could only ~16mbps.  I bought a 3825 cheap on eBay last year!
[01:26] <HeathHayle> 12.04 LTS
[01:26] <zingchan> I'd love to switch to my 3825, I have it in my CCNP lab setup
[01:26] <zingchan> frame relay switch
[01:26] <zingchan> they sure are cheap now
[01:27] <resizt0r> i'd just love if ubuntu would connect
[01:27] <resizt0r> at all
[01:27] <resizt0r> :(
[01:27] <nocterna1> zingchan: all G1 stuff is pretty much EoSS now, so flood of hardware coming out on eBay.
[01:27] <pandabear> Hi, I just updated and my firefox is no longer working
[01:28] <nocterna1> zingchan: have you looked at 'sh ip nat tran' while trying to connect from 'outside'?
[01:28] <Beldar> HeathHayle, on this site lower left panel is playing around, there are full meta package desktop lists if needed. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[01:28] <HeathHayle> Beldar: 12.04 LTS
[01:29] <resizt0r> is there another ubuntu channel someone can recommend
[01:29] <zingchan> I have not yet
[01:30] <zingchan> trying a different port
[01:30] <pandabear> I changed my /var/www/html to be owned by firefox
[01:30] <zingchan> and I'll do a debug while I'm at it on the router
[01:30] <pandabear> and I can't stilll access it
[01:30] <fishscene> resizt0r: For what? There's #ubuntu-server and that's about it.
[01:30] <Beldar> HeathHayle, The lists are for removing the desktops and installing another, if you look closely the new desktop install is at the end of the list. One could put whatever they want there within reason.
[01:30] <resizt0r> for assistance
[01:30] <nocterna1> zingchan: yeah, 'debug ip pack det <acl>' with acl having your port in it should work
[01:30] <fishscene> This is the channel you are looking for
[01:31] <resizt0r> i've asked my questions here, on several occasions
[01:31] <HeathHayle> Beldar: No i want to strip back my install to miniualm
[01:31] <resizt0r> i cant be the only person on the internet who has had a problem with ubuntu not assigning ip address
[01:31] <resizt0r> somebody has to know what the problem is
[01:31] <resizt0r> and how to fix it
[01:31] <fishscene> resizt0r: This is a 100% volunteer channel. If there's someone who is knowledgable and willing, they'll respond. In the meantime, there's not much you can do besides google.
[01:31] <Beldar> HeathHayle, miniualm?
[01:32] <resizt0r> i've googled for the last 2 weeks
[01:32] <HeathHayle> Minimum
[01:32] <Beldar> HeathHayle, and minimum means?
[01:32] <fishscene> resizt0r: Is Ubuntu running as your DHCP server?
[01:32] <pandabear> doesnt the government assign internet ip address?
[01:32] <HeathHayle> Not much stuff installed
[01:32] <resizt0r> no, im just trying to get it to work on my desktop
[01:32] <fishscene> pandabear: Nope
[01:33] <resizt0r> on a standard home network
[01:33] <resizt0r> nothing special
[01:33] <pandabear> i thought the us government assigns the ip address
[01:33] <HeathHayle> Like the stuff you get when you use the mini.iso
[01:33] <nocterna1> zingchan: btw, we ditched last of FR about a year ago here.  Sometimes I miss it still.  MPLS is nice too, but...
[01:33] <resizt0r> on a pc that used to be running xubuntu 12.04 with no special configurations
[01:33] <fishscene> resizt0r: Is this a fresh install? upgrade? Was it ever working before?
[01:33] <Beldar> HeathHayle, Still not really a definitive answer is all. If you want gui's you need some sort of X.
[01:33] <tankerkiller125> Can I get help with my ubuntu install I lost the menu icon in the very top right hand side of the screen and I don't know why and even after a syastem restart uit won't come back
[01:33] <resizt0r> fresh install, has run xubuntu in the past, most recently win7
[01:33] <pandabear> Do i need to reinstall to get firefox working?
[01:34] <HeathHayle> But but obvs I have got packages I dont want etc
[01:34] <nbros652> Is it possible to take A/V codecs from windows (.ax & .dll fles) and use them in Linux? I would like to play back videos from a security camera system, but the videos do not use a common encoding.
[01:34] <fishscene> pandabear: http://www.icann.org/en/node/1145082
[01:35] <fishscene> nbros652: The only method I know would somehow be through WINE. Other than that, I'd wager "no".
[01:35] <ClientAlive> is there a channel for ubuntu develpers?
[01:35] <fishscene> You can try installing the proprietary program through WINE to try to play back the videos
[01:35] <nocterna1> nbros652: I'm no sure about the .ax/.dll part... but there are many windows codecs available until linux.
[01:35] <nbros652> fishscene: Thanks, I tried that... so far no luck.
[01:35] <zingchan> nocterna1: MPLS is great. I only use FR for the cisco courses. not until the CCIE level do you really get a full lesson on MPLS
[01:35] <nocterna1> nbros652: chances are it may 'just work' unless it's really way out there in left field :)
[01:35] <fishscene> nbros652: Name of the program?
[01:35] <nbros652> nocterna1: Not part of the normal windows codecs
[01:35] <fishscene> or codec?
[01:36] <tankerkiller125> Linux has one of the largest codec supports I know try searching the codecs online and the appstore
[01:36] <nbros652> fishscene: It's some Chinese system... I can't remember the name.
[01:36] <nocterna1> nbros652: trying mediainfo 'filename' and see what is spits out :)
[01:36] <Beldar> HeathHayle, Did you see the macbuntu iso download?
[01:37] <nbros652> tankerkiller125: The codecs were quite difficult to find for Windows. I've not had any luck with Linux.
[01:37] <fishscene> nbros652: You'll probably need to examine the video file to figure out what codec it is reporting it uses.
[01:37] <HeathHayle> Yer but thats a unsupported distro now though isn't it?
[01:37] <tankerkiller125> nbros652: what were the codecs called
[01:37] <nocterna1> zingchan: like many things, the cisco courses/exams are aways behind the real world.  I believe they will drop some of the older technologies soon or later :)
[01:37] <ClientAlive> me
[01:38] <pandabear> I want to be linux certified.  I have a MCSE.
[01:38] <zingchan> CCENT is now covering more advanced things like OSPF. so they are now catching up, at least a little bit. pretty awesome
[01:38] <tankerkiller125> cisco has a new program I'll be using next year at my career center. Yah computer tech class
[01:38] <HeathHayle> Beldar Yer but thats a unsupported distro now though isn't it?
[01:38] <otak_> HeathHayle: did you know you can install different window managers and try them, without changing what you have now
[01:38] <zingchan> CCNA goes into the very basics of BGP now
[01:39] <nbros652> tankerkiller125: G722ACEC.dll, H264VDEC.dll, HikDataDump.ax, HikFileSource.ax, and a bunch of other Hik* files, some .ax some .dll
[01:39] <nocterna1> zingchan: I took CCNA a few years ago... now I don't have time for CCNP or one of the myriad of CCIE certs one can get.
[01:39] <Beldar> HeathHayle, unsupported here, but would be on the ubuntu forums and the ##linux channel. You might if you don't mind doing config hacks remove the desktop you have with that site and install lxde and tweak from there or another even lighter desktop.
[01:39] <HeathHayle> Otak_ what do you mean
[01:39] <nocterna1> I took the CCIE challenge exame @ Cisco Live this year (Orlando) and passed... so that was a pleasant suprise!
[01:39] <ClientAlive> Is there a channel for ubuntu developers
[01:40] <fishscene> A google search for "G722ACEC.dll" yields absolutely *nothing*. I think I discovered the end of the Internet
[01:40] <tankerkiller125> try in the serminal mediainfo <filenamehere>
[01:40] <zingchan> wow that is impressive. I am slowly studying for CCIE now
[01:40] <zingchan> although I've been a bit lazy
[01:40] <HeathHayle> What install lxde on my distro at the mo?
[01:40] <AdamBInfinity> Does .Xresources do anything in 13.10? I have tried setting my *background: #FFFFFFF and it doesn't recognize
[01:40] <nbros652> nocterna1: mediainfo simply gives the complete name and file size... nothing more.
[01:41] <nocterna1> nbros652: whoa!  Never run across that before! ;/
[01:41] <nbros652> fishscene: like I said, it was hard getting it to play in Windows.
[01:41] <Beldar> HeathHayle, wipe the desktop you have with the package list at the site I gave you then install lxde and tweak away.
[01:41] <fishscene> nbros652: Did you try what tankerkiller125 said?
[01:41] <nbros652> nocterna1: yeah, I'm banging my head on this one. To make matters worse, the player that I found to work listed nothing for the codecs either.
[01:41] <nocterna1> nbros652: most of the time, things 'just work' under linux when you install the 3rd-port codecs... they don't ship with ubuntu due to licensing.
[01:42] <HeathHayle> And do you think lxde with work with macbuntu?
[01:42] <tankerkiller125> Have you tried vlc
[01:42] <Beldar> HeathHayle, No idea.
[01:42] <otak_> ClientAlive: you can msg alis list *ubuntu*
[01:43] <nbros652> nocterna1: you refering to trying wine?
[01:43] <AdamBInfinity> Does .Xresources do anything in 13.10? I have tried setting my *background: #FFFFFFF and it doesn't recognize
[01:43] <nocterna1> nbros652: any chance you can drop a file on dropbox somewhere for me to grab and have a crack at?
[01:43] <tankerkiller125> try downloading VLC
[01:43] <HeathHayle> Lol I think its to do with the qtk version is the problem
[01:43] <fishscene> I'd be interested in examining this file too
[01:44] <nbros652> tankerkiller125: vlc wouldn't even play it in windows
[01:44] <nocterna1> nbros652: nope. no wine/emulation involved in what I was thinking about.
[01:44] <Beldar> HeathHayle, Personally I don't bother much with a customized desktop, I do use the gnome shell with the cairo dock and synapse though, so I use not all the options on it.
[01:44] <nbros652> tankerkiller125: didn't work in linux either.
[01:44] <alfonsovz> ALGUIEN HABLA ESPAÑOL
[01:44] <alfonsovz> ???
[01:44] <Beldar> !es | alfonsovz
[01:44] <fishscene> !es > alfonsovz
[01:44] <nocterna1> nbros652: I forgot what the ubuntu package is called.  But on install I check the box 'install 3rd party files during install'.  This grabs several things I believe.
[01:44] <nbros652> nocterna1: give me a sec.
[01:44] <tankerkiller125> nbros652, mmm sounds interesting did the system have an installation disk
[01:45] <nbros652> nocterna1: I'll upload to skydrive and put link here.
[01:45] <tankerkiller125> How do I take a screenshot
[01:45] <otak_> HeathHayle: otoh i love openbox, but Beldar has advised me in the past so i repect his opinion
[01:45] <nbros652> tankerkiller125: I wouldn't know. It was installed long before I started working here.
[01:45] <HeathHayle> What is openbox
[01:45] <tankerkiller125> nbros652, Ah ok
[01:46] <DWTaylor_> AdamBInfinity: Is it just the background that is not set or does your .Xresources not work at all?  Also, what program are you trying to affect with it:  urxvt or xterm?
[01:46] <fishscene> HeathHayle: http://openbox.org/
[01:46] <AdamBInfinity> DWTaylor_: I imagine that it is my entire .Xresources as that is the only thing in it at the moment. I'm trying to affect gnome-terminal.... so xterm
[01:47] <AdamBInfinity> DWTaylor_: and I've also done the whole xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources
[01:47] <tankerkiller125> can someone help me with this https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B94YIwPEFnAkcjE0eVBfd0V4RGs/edit?usp=sharing
[01:47] <HeathHayle> Ok cool all I was is a mac os x style desktop for linux
[01:48] <tankerkiller125> Top Right corner no dropdown menu
[01:48] <DWTaylor_> AdamBInfinity: I'm not sure the gnome terminal will obey Xresources.  It has its own config.  You set the colors withing gnome terminal.
[01:48] <nbros652> tankerkiller125, nocterna1, fishscene: Here's the link to the codecs I have: https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=FE14EC11850C49E3!117&authkey=!AFEmslxinrok9rM&ithint=folder%2c.ax
[01:49] <tankerkiller125> nbros652, I almost wanna say it's a H264 codec but if VLC can't play it then it can't be
[01:49] <fishscene> nbros652: What about the video file itself? (Note: DO NOT SHARE if it is sensitive)
[01:49] <nocterna1> nbros652: is this is the codecs or a sample of the video?
[01:49] <DWTaylor_> AdamBInfinity: Not in a gnome environment right now. But I know there is a place where you go in gnome terminal to set all 16 colors.
[01:50] <nocterna1> nbros652: what fishscene said - only if it's possible.
[01:50] <nbros652> tankerkiller125: I'm wondering if its a customized variation of a h264 codec.
[01:50] <AdamBInfinity> DWTaylor_: I'm using gnome-terminal but my $TERM is xterm? I figured that means I'm just on top of an xterm emulator
[01:50] <tankerkiller125> nbros652,  I'll take a look
[01:51] <AdamBInfinity> DWTaylor_: but either way, if I open an xterm terminal.... the background is not white as expected
[01:51] <nocterna1> nbros652: do these files contain audio?  g722 is an audio codec.
[01:51] <nbros652> nocterna1, fishscene: Let me see if I can find a video that wouldn't be a problem. brb
[01:52] <tankerkiller125> mm accoring to a colleague on skype it may be a mpeg 2 encoding
[01:52] <tankerkiller125> Old School
[01:53] <DWTaylor_> AdamBInfinity: Not sure on that but since gnome terminal has its own configuration I would be pretty sure it won't obey .Xresources.  So you have to use its own config tool.
[01:53] <AdamBInfinity> DWTaylor_: trying to get Solarized in gnome-terminal/Vim is becoming a nightmare! Thank you anyway
[01:53] <tankerkiller125> gtg really quick
[01:54] <sn33zy> i click the adhoc network on the guest and it doesnt do anything
[01:54] <sn33zy> i have ubuntu 12.04 with a broken ethernet card.  i am trying to set up my hotspot and i know how to set it up on the host... but I am having trouble connecting a guest ubuntu 12.04 to the ad-hoc providing computer
[01:54] <fishscene> mpeg2 is easily handled by just about every media player out there. I'm assuming you've installed gstreamer codecs?
[01:54] <DWTaylor_> AdamBInfinity: Funny you mentioned solarized and vim.  I tried installing the same thing this very day.
[01:54] <DWTaylor_> AdamBInfinity: And yes...its a nightmare
[01:55] <AdamBInfinity> DWTaylor_: I'm starting to think it's impossible. I can get the colors matching except my bolds aren't correct. This makes my *.html look all grey because they utilize bolds
[01:55] <AdamBInfinity> DWTaylor_: I can remove bold and it works perfect.... but I am persistent and want it EXACTLY how they have it on the site haha
[01:56] <DWTaylor_> AdamBInfinity: I spent about half an hour playing with it, and it wasn't quite right.
[01:56] <AdamBInfinity> DWTaylor_: I've been trying since Friday. Losing my mind over here.
[01:56] <DWTaylor_> AdamBInfinity: Agreed, it never looks like the pics on the website.  LOL.
[01:56] <tankerkiller125> fishscene, Can you help me out a little
[01:57] <fishscene> Installing gstreamer codecs?
[01:57] <sn33zy> has anyone seen my question?
[01:58] <tankerkiller125> fishscene, LOL no diffrent guy  um the top right menu on the bar ontop in't thier anymore how would I fix
[01:58] <fishscene> sn33zy: No IP address at all? Not even something like: 169.254.x.x?
[01:58] <sn33zy> when i click on an adhoc network nothing happens
[01:58] <sn33zy> ubuntu doesnt event try to connect (12.04) fresh install fishscene
[01:58] <nbros652> nocterna1: I was able to get these videos to play in Windows on qqplayer (a chinese video player). QQPlayer automatically downloaded the codecs, and these are the files it downloaded. I'm looking for a video to put in the folder as well.
[02:00] <nbros652> nocterna1: I just asked ... the files do not have audio.
[02:00] <fishscene> sn33zy: Just out of curiosity, have you tried rebooting the computer? If so, perhaps check to see if there are any proprietary drivers you can use (I've found sometimes those work a LOT better when it comes to wireless cards)
[02:00] <nocterna1> nbros652: Only heard of QQ itself - the chinese-version of MSN messanger/ICQ/AIM :)
[02:00] <sn33zy> fishscene, already rebooted multiple times
[02:00] <^guapo^> 8] sn33zy: when i click on an adhoc network nothing happens
[02:00] <^guapo^> [02:58] ••› embed-ns [~phil@blk-89-229-172.eastlink.ca] entra
[02:00] <^guapo^> [02:58] ••› renebarbosa [~rene@unaffiliated/renebarbosa] entra
[02:00] <^guapo^> [02:58] ·•• embed-ns es ahora phil-ns
[02:00] <^guapo^> [02:58] sn33zy: ubuntu doesnt event try to connect (12.04) fresh install fishscene
[02:00] <FloodBot1> ^guapo^: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:00] <^guapo^> [02:58] nbros652: nocterna1: I was able to get these videos to play in Windows on qqplayer (a chinese video player). QQPlayer automatically downloaded the codecs, and these are the files it downloaded. I'm looking for a video to put in the folder as well.
[02:00] <^guapo^> [02:58] ••› jmgk [~jmgk@pool-71-120-31-50.washdc.fios.verizon.net] entra
[02:00] <jmgk> huh
[02:01] <jmgk> ^guapo^: ?
[02:01] <jmgk> !ops
[02:01] <^guapo^> [jmgk]
[02:01] <^guapo^> [jmgk]
[02:01] <jmgk> ^guapo^: stop doing that for everyone
[02:01] <^guapo^> [jmgk]
[02:01] <jmgk> stop it
[02:01] <fishscene> jmgk: Guap is a bot
[02:01] <jmgk> oh
[02:01] <^guapo^> [jmgk]
[02:01] <jmgk> ...
[02:01] <^guapo^> [os dire algo]
[02:01] <fishscene> !ops | ^guapo^
[02:01] <jmgk> he's not a bot
[02:01] <^guapo^> [vayanse al carajo]
[02:01] <nbros652> nocterna1: that's right. They have a whole slew of applications. Another big one is wechat for mobile devices, but I digress...
[02:01] <jmgk> ~ops
[02:02] <jmgk> ~ops
[02:02] <FloodBot1> jmgk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:02] <^guapo^> [entiendame]
[02:02] <^guapo^> [ hagan algo por sus vidas]
[02:02] <jmgk> !ops
[02:02] <jmgk> ^guapo^:  stop sending me messages
[02:02] <^guapo^> [ no me toques mis cosas]
[02:02] <sn33zy> is there a way to download all of the recent updates for a computer that has a broken ethernet card?
[02:03] <^guapo^> [vayanse con el diablo]
[02:03] <^guapo^> [gentuza]
[02:03] <tankerkiller125> what was with ubotto
[02:03] <jmgk> tankerkiller125:  its still here I think
[02:03] <jmgk> not sure who ^guapo^ is
[02:03] <^guapo^> [soy ^guapo^]
[02:04] <tankerkiller125> what the hell was it though talk about spam
[02:04] <^guapo^> [y tu eres mi criado]
[02:04] <nbros652> tankerkiller125, fishscene, nocterna1: I dumped a video (.mp4) in the folder as well. Here's a direct link: https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=FE14EC11850C49E3!126&authkey=!ACM5ZNWRRW-nkPE&ithint=file%2c.mp4
[02:04] <jmgk> tankerkiller125:  beats me
[02:04] <tankerkiller125> nbros652, ok
[02:04] <fishscene> nbros652: Thanks, we'll take a look
[02:05] <^guapo^> 8] sn33zy: when i click on an adhoc network nothing happens
[02:05] <^guapo^> [02:58] ••› embed-ns [~phil@blk-89-229-172.eastlink.ca] entra
[02:05] <^guapo^> [02:58] ••› renebarbosa [~rene@unaffiliated/renebarbosa] entra
[02:05] <^guapo^> [02:58] ·•• embed-ns es ahora phil-ns
[02:05] <^guapo^> [02:58] sn33zy: ubuntu doesnt event try to connect (12.04) fresh install fishscene
[02:05] <^guapo^> [02:58] nbros652: nocterna1: I was able to get these videos to play in Windows on qqplayer (a chinese video player). QQPlayer automatically downloaded the codecs, and these are the files it downloaded. I'm looking for a video to put in the folder as well.
[02:05] <FloodBot1> ^guapo^: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:05] <^guapo^> [02:58] ••› jmgk [~jmgk@pool-71-120-31-50.washdc.fios.verizon.net] entra
[02:05] <^guapo^> [02:58] ‹•• jmgk [~jmgk@pool-71-120-31-50.washdc.fios.verizon.net] cierra [Changing host ]
[02:05] <nbros652> tankerkiller125, fishscene, nocterna1: I have also tried QQPlayer in wine with no luck.
[02:05] <jmgk> ^guapo^: stop it
[02:05] <dbb> hi all - I tried adding a line for precise-backports  but there are only a half dozen packages there?
[02:05] <jmgk> can someone get rid of this guy?
[02:05] <^guapo^> [nu]
[02:06]  * fishscene stabs VLC. Who's bright idea was it to hide codec info when VLC isn't highlighted??
[02:06] <^guapo^> [vete a hacer cosas utiles]
[02:06] <^guapo^> [eres un payaso]
[02:06] <^guapo^> [mediocre]
[02:06] <^guapo^> [quiero romper este server]
[02:06] <jmgk> ^guapo^:  knock it off
[02:06] <^guapo^> [^^]
[02:06] <sn33zy> fishscene, can you tell me the all the packages that i need to update that are related to networking in ubuntu?
[02:06] <nbros652> fishscene: Codec info seems to be hidden on any program I use when examining these vids.
[02:06] <^guapo^> [sereis humillados]
[02:07] <^guapo^> [publicamente]
[02:07] <sn33zy> fishscene, b/c i can tether but it is slow as molasses
[02:07] <^guapo^> [sin piedad]
[02:07] <dbb> eg  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[02:07] <fishscene> nbros652: Looks like VLC only sees MPG1/2/3 audio on that file. My guess is it's highly proprietary or encrypted. It's going to be hard to figure this out without knowing the name of the program/device that made this.
[02:07] <dbb> my first try was  http://ubuntu.osuosl.org/ubuntu precise-backports main
[02:07] <tankerkiller125> gtg
[02:07] <^guapo^> [sois payasos]
[02:08] <^guapo^> [sin vida]
[02:08] <jmgk> tankerkiller125:  who is Guapo?
[02:08] <dbb> .. but that didnt work at all.. complained about duplicates in i386 vs amd64
[02:08] <^guapo^> [autenticos lameculos de los jefes]
[02:08] <fishscene> sn33zy: standby. Internet is stupid slow right now
[02:08] <fishscene> !en > ^guapo^
[02:09] <nocterna1> nbros652: yeah, the header looks different then other mp4 I have :|
[02:09] <^guapo^> [os voy a decir una cosa]
[02:09] <^guapo^> [y si no sabeis español]
[02:09] <^guapo^> [os jodeis]
[02:09] <^guapo^> [eso era]
[02:09] <fishscene> ^guapo^: Language?
[02:09] <nbros652> fishscene: the company name listed on the files is HangZhou Hikvision Digital Technology Co. Ltd.
[02:09] <^guapo^> [español]
[02:10] <^guapo^> [dicho de otro modo tu eres un chupatintas fishscene]
[02:10] <^guapo^> [igual que los monguis que alberga esta red]
[02:10] <jinppk> i have two questions, first is there any way to find out when kernel 3.12 will be released for ubuntu 13.10? Second, in 13.10 when i try and connect to a vpn it says the connectino failed because the vpn service failed to start, any ideas as to how to fix that?
[02:10] <fishscene> nbros652: http://www.hikvision.com/en/download.asp  I take it you've found this already.
[02:11] <dbb> How ouwld anyone even discover what is in a precise-backports PPA ?  I am so lost on launchpad
[02:11] <^guapo^> [sois autenticos deprimentes]
[02:11] <dbb> are there different precise-backports ?   is it possible that there are only a few packages in one over another ?
[02:11] <^guapo^> [vidas deprimentes monitor enfrente]
[02:11] <^guapo^> [deberiais hacer cosas utiles]
[02:11] <^guapo^> [reflexionad en ellas]
[02:12] <fishscene> Sn33zy: For some reason, I can't load any official webpages related to networking packages for Ubuntu.
[02:12] <^guapo^> [en vez de estar aqui como monguis]
[02:12] <nbros652> fishscene: How did I miss that one. I'll putz around there and see if I can find anything.
[02:12] <^guapo^> [sois unos chupaculos]
[02:12] <^guapo^> [os van a dar por atras]
[02:13] <^guapo^> [ humillaos]
[02:13] <^guapo^> [vuestras vidas son deprimentes]
[02:13] <fishscene> nbros652: There's some mention of capture cards made by that company. Is it possible we are looking at raw capture files? If so, you'll need to convert them out of that format somehow.
[02:14] <locoloco> evenin' y'all!  trying to get Unity to talk emacs/bash key commands... Backspace with Ctrl + h, anyone?
[02:14] <nbros652> fishscene: that may be my problem. If worst comes to worst, QQPlayer will transcode.
[02:14] <nbros652> fishscene: that's just a lot of trancoding.
[02:14] <nocterna1> nbros652: no luck on my part, yet :|  I need to leave soon too.
[02:14] <^guapo^> 3:05] @FloodBot1: ^guapo^: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:14] <^guapo^> [03:05] ·•• FloodBot1 pone modo [+zq ^guapo^!*@* ]
[02:14] <^guapo^> [03:05] nbros652: tankerkiller125, fishscene, nocterna1: I have also tried QQPlayer in wine with no luck.
[02:14] <^guapo^> [03:05] ‹•• philipballew [~philip@ubuntu/member/philipballew] cierra [Ping timeout: 260 seconds ]
[02:14] <^guapo^> [03:05] ••› Onixs [~Onixs@112.204.192.81] entra
[02:14] <^guapo^> [03:05] ••› dbb [~chatzilla@c-98-248-250-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] entra
[02:14] <FloodBot1> ^guapo^: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:15] <nbros652> nocterna1: Thanks for the help.
[02:15] <fishscene> ^guapo^: le recuerda la conversación en-asunto sobre Ubuntu Ayuda. Se trata de un único canal Inglés. Para Español, intente # ubuntu-es
[02:15] <dbb> (I /ignore 'd that nick when I signed on.. )
[02:16] <^guapo^> 3:05] @FloodBot1: ^guapo^: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:16] <^guapo^> [03:05] ·•• FloodBot1 pone modo [+zq ^guapo^!*@* ]
[02:16] <^guapo^> [03:05] nbros652: tankerkiller125, fishscene, nocterna1: I have also tried QQPlayer in wine with no luck.
[02:16] <^guapo^> [03:05] ‹•• philipballew [~philip@ubuntu/member/philipballew] cierra [Ping timeout: 260 seconds ]
[02:16] <^guapo^> [03:05] ••› Onixs [~Onixs@112.204.192.81] entra
[02:16] <^guapo^> [03:05] ••› dbb [~chatzilla@c-98-248-250-141.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] entra
[02:16] <FloodBot1> ^guapo^: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:16] <^guapo^> [03:05] ••› kaxing [~kaxing@175.41.48.77] entra
[02:16] <^guapo^> [03:05] ·•• Clones [bafu kaxing] 175.41.48.77 [2]
[02:16] <fishscene> dbb: Good idea. Thanks for the tip. I had forgotton about that.
[02:16] <WOODMAN> hello
[02:16] <^guapo^> [humillaos]
[02:17] <^guapo^> [humillaos]
[02:17] <^guapo^> [humillaos]
[02:17] <FloodBot1> ^guapo^: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:17] <somsip> !ops | guapo
[02:17] <^guapo^> 03:17] ubottu: guapo: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, jpds, gnomefreak, bazhang, Flannel, ikonia, maco, h00k, IdleOne, bkerensa, nhandler, Jordan_U, DJones or k1l!
[02:17] <WOODMAN> i have a question if i may ask....i have a linux system....i have a thumbdrive file and im trying to burn it to a backup disc.....but its like when i right click on the thumbdrive file.....and normally (move to disc or copy to disc...from my former microsoft days....) i am noticing that move to disc is not an option
[02:18] <WOODMAN> and also when i play around with it...as i can open it with kate editor....but if i play around kate crashes....but that still doesnt solve my problem that there is no burn to disc option.....
[02:18] <WOODMAN> i take it i have to do something in software manager and get a program to do this? can i get advice please
[02:20] <locoloco> jono: great seeing everyone's favorite community manager in the forum!
[02:23] <nocterna1> nbros652: dod you assgin the .mp4 extension or is that how the system creates them?
[02:23] <nbros652> nocterna1: that's how the system creates them.
[02:25] <fishscene> I have a hardware video capture device that creates what looks like a standard video file, but it is not. I have to export it or open it with special extensions for certain video editors. It whomps, but it works.
[02:25] <fishscene> nbros652: This looks a lot like what I deal with.
[02:26] <nbros652> fishscene: the system is a multi-camera system that records to a central location. I know there is channel information and probably some other information embedded as well.
[02:28] <nbros652> fishscene: It looks like their page has players for windows and mac as well as filters for windows media player.
[02:28] <nbros652> So far nothing I can get to work on linux.
[02:29] <fishscene> nbros652: My friend, you have run into the great proprietary problem.
[02:29] <locoloco> fishscene: no luck with http://libav.org/avconv.html ?
[02:29] <nbros652> fishscene: That's what I was afraid of.
[02:30] <fishscene> locoloco: Are you referring to my video capture device or nbros652's video file?
[02:31] <nbros652> fishscene: libav.org may be a bit beyond me. I'll check it out.
[02:31] <nocterna1> nbros652: I just tried that mp4 and manually specified all each codec (using a FOR loop).  No joy :|
[02:31] <locoloco> fishscene: pardon, nbros652's video file.
[02:31] <nocterna1> nbros652: using avconv
[02:32] <nbros652> nocterna1: Thanks
[02:32] <nocterna1> nbros652: what I find odd is that this QQplayer was able to find the right codecs and someone devypher the header in that file!
[02:33] <nocterna1> nbros652: what kind of systems is this from anyways, if it's ok to share?
[02:33] <fishscene> locoloco: No worries. Just clarifying. :)  That looks pretty complex, and we're dealing with a lot of unknowns about the video file. (we don't even know the codec).
[02:34] <v1c3> Hello!  Would please anybody have a lookat this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-datetime/+bug/1251222 It slows down ubuntu and leads sooner or later to a systemcrash because the log is getting bigger than 18 Gigabytes!!! This is a major Bug. Please have a look at it! Thats why ubuntu is slow!
[02:34] <nocterna1> locoloco: I tried a manual '-codec:v <codev>' and passed each codec available to me... not made a hit.
[02:34] <fishscene> QQplayer may have a deal with the company, or may have grabbed the stuff needed to play it back on Windows and made it easy for everyone to use.
[02:34] <nbros652> nocterna1: all I know about the system is that it's a multi-cam ip based system. It's a Chinese install and Chinese hardware from the Hikvision company.
[02:34] <nocterna1> nbros652: there ya go... Chinese government is in on it!
[02:35] <nbros652> nocterna1: when aren't they? ;)
[02:35] <nocterna1> nbros652: ...my point exactly... :|
[02:35] <fishscene> lol. Due to restrictions the Chinese government has placed, I've seen a LOT of companies "home brew" their own solutions, completely incompatible with industry-standards.
[02:36] <locoloco> fishscene: nbros652: had success using avconv to deal with the troublesome avchd; it was a long-shot suggestion... :)
[02:36] <nocterna1> fishscene, nbros652: yeah, and maybe be a simple matter of creating an offset - but enough changes to make it non-standards...
[02:36] <nbros652> nocterna1, fishscene: And that's what my fear was from the beginning
[02:36] <nocterna1> nbros652, fishscene: based on the filenames in the DLL's it seems as if it's using h.264 atleast (in one form or another).
[02:36] <fishscene> ohok. I must've missed something somewhere.
[02:40] <nbros652> fishscene, nocterna1, tankerkiller125: It appears the windows player from the company runs in wine. I get a horrible flicker, but it's a start.
[02:41] <nocterna1> nbros652: did a quick google on the company name... and looks like they do 'hardware 264 encoding'... but obviously not using an open standard.
[02:42] <nbros652> nocterna1: Thanks.
[02:42] <nocterna1> nbros652: they have SDK's for linux 32/64-bit on their site though... :)
[02:43] <Jayho> hey could someone tell me how i would delete and add entries to my sources.list file through terminal?
[02:43] <nbros652> nocterna1: I'll check that out.
[02:44] <fishscene> nbros652: Not sure if my memory serves correctly, but in WINE, there may be an option to substitute or use native Windows dll's. Might try plugging in those DLL's you have and see what happens. o_o
[02:44] <nocterna1> nbros652: they also offer a format coverter under their 'tools' section.  It's an EXE though... so obviously Windows-based.
[02:45] <scuba323> hello everyone! I have an Ubuntu VPS. I had it on for the last two weeks and I was using  Google two step for ssh logins. Now after a quick reboot PuttY is no longer asking for the code and my password is wrong. Could someone help me. I am locked out :/
[02:46] <cge> Does anyone know who I should contact to get the wiki to stop continually spamming me with change notifications I can't unsubscribe from?
[02:46] <nbros652> nocterna1: Yeah, and QQPlayer will already do the conversions for me if I have to go that route..
[02:46] <cge> In bug 1130352 someone said to contact "IS" but I'm not sure who or what that is.
[02:47] <fishscene> cge: dang that's an old bug. Never dealt with. :(
[02:48] <scuba323> nevermind, rebooted :P
[02:49] <cge> fishscene: yes, getting back into things has been a mess for me; the SSO and wiki changes really weren't done with much thought toward older accounts.
[02:50] <we6jbo> Is there a way to read an external harddrive's serial number in Ubuntu?
[02:52] <Jayho> Coulod anyone tell me how i would add and delete entries from sources.list file through terminal?
[02:52] <nocterna1> nbros652: have to go now.  ttyl (if you're around).
[02:52] <Stanley00> Jayho: you can use nano, an editor
[02:52] <fishscene> o/
[02:52] <nocterna1> nbros652: Good luck... and happy transocding!
[02:53] <Jayho> Stanley00: awesome thank you so much
[02:53] <nbros652> nocterna1: thanks
[02:53] <somsip> we6jbo: sudo lshw -c disk | grep serial (but you'll have to fine tune from there)
[02:54] <nocterna1> nbros652: http://roundup.libav.org/issue895  :D
[02:55] <locoloco> somsip: we6bo:  or try  hdparm -i /dev/sd*
[02:56] <we6jbo> Thanks somsip
[02:57] <we6jbo> I dont know if I typed that twice
[03:00] <troop> hi,
[03:00] <troop> can i see which charset does system use from terminal
[03:01] <casperfoo> troop: I believe UTF-8 normally
[03:02] <troop> okay, then do you know changing xchats charset setting? because i cant see my language's chars
[03:02] <PJUST> hey, i need some help with ubuntu reapir or something on my laptop
[03:03] <PJUST> can someone pm me? its with the "GNU grub version 2.00-13ubuntu"
[03:03] <somsip> PJUST: just give details here and if someone can help you they will
[03:03] <casperfoo> troop: not sure but try http://xchat.org/encoding/
[03:03] <PJUST> ok well, i had ubuntu dual booted on my laptop for a while, didnt use it too much but opened once in a while to update.
[03:04] <PJUST> recently tried, i got a screen reading this:
[03:04] <somsip> !pastebin | PJUST
[03:05] <PJUST> GNU grub version 2.00-13ubuntu   Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. Anywhere else Tab lists possible device or file completions    grub>
[03:05] <PJUST> and thats all i know
[03:05] <troop> thanks
[03:06] <somsip> PJUST: this is the grub prompt. A similar issue is reported here. I'm no expert on grub, so you might need to research more around this: http://is.gd/HhtT2Y
[03:07] <PJUST> ok
[03:07] <PJUST> thanks
[03:07] <somsip> PJUST: eg: a search for 'ubuntu grub prompt on boot' gives loads of possibles, but like I say, I wouldn't want to suggest something without really knowing more myself
[03:08] <PJUST> yea, this guy is basically getting what i had. mine worked longer though. guess im learning tonight :) thanks for the recomendations, i couldnt find that page with google. its a start
[03:08] <cge> PJUST, check the fedoraproject link from there. That's a recoverable problem, usually, it's just annoying.
[03:10] <somsip> PJUST: yeah - it seems to be solvable like cge says, but dig around and see what you find, and try asking again later as its not very busy here at this time so you might get better advice later
[03:11] <profligacy> hey
[03:11] <mnemon> hello
[03:11] <profligacy> Is this an official channel?
[03:11] <PJUST> i havent troubleshooted in depth in a while, so ill have fun lol :I
[03:11] <cge> PJUST, essentially, grub, which manages the initial kernel and initramfs loading, has lost/messed up its configuration. That could be indicative of all sorts of problems, from a simple configuration error to the partitions having major problems.
[03:11] <somsip> profligacy: yes
[03:13] <cge> PJUST: those commands list how to set up the boot manually.
[03:13] <nearst> hello beloved ubuntu's
[03:13] <PJUST> the problem is the disk managment in W7 doesnt even show the partition i had made, now it only shows the 900 some gigs
[03:13] <PJUST> i think ill chkdisk and go from there
[03:14] <AlecTaylor> hi
[03:14] <Meiko> Hi
[03:14] <jblack> I'm attempting to install ubuntu on a macbook pro 11,2.  The screen, though, is corrupt. Plugged in monitors work, though. Any advice?
[03:14] <nearst> hi AlecTaylor Meiko
[03:14] <AlecTaylor> Meiko: How's it going?
[03:15] <AlecTaylor> +nearst :P
[03:15] <fishscene> jblack: Is that with retina?
[03:15] <jblack> yes, it is
[03:15] <nearst> AlecTaylor, nothin much. just try to help some ppl who asking :D
[03:16] <fishscene> I remember a while ago phoronix.com mentioning that drivers for retina display were in deplorable condition. I don't know anything further than this.
[03:16] <Sebastien> i love the translucid terminal on ubuntu, is there a way to have a similar one on windows ?
[03:16] <AlecTaylor> nearst: All good :P
[03:16] <jblack> Ok. Do you think forcing a lower resolution might help, and if so, how can I get the install to do so?
[03:16] <somsip> Sebastien: that's one to ask in ##windows
[03:16] <nearst> Sebastien, stick to ubuntu :P
[03:17] <Sebastien> nearst, i cant.
[03:17] <Sebastien> nothing is compatible.
[03:17] <fishscene> jblack: nvm. That article is over a year old.
[03:17] <AlecTaylor> How do I add a wildcard directory to my PATH? - I want `/opt/tested/*/bin/` in my path.
[03:18] <nearst> AlecTaylor, add wildcard? use softlink ?
[03:19] <jblack> fishscene:  ok
[03:19] <fishscene> AlecTaylor: It appears you can't directly use a wildcard like that. I found some information here: http://www.unix.com/unix-dummies-questions-answers/38031-copying-multiple-directories-using-wildcard.html
[03:19] <somsip> AlecTaylor: this might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1572734
[03:20] <jblack> I'm trying out an install anyway. I'm hoping there's a fresher xserver in the repo than the iso. =)
[03:20] <nearst> :)
[03:22] <dbb> hi all - I tried adding a line for precise-backports  but there are only a half dozen packages there?
[03:22] <dbb> eg  deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[03:23] <dbb> are there different precise-backports ?   is it possible that there are only a few packages in one over another ?
[03:24] <forehand> I'm having trouble understanding what or how to set the gateway for a dhcp server.   Should the gateway be set to the ip address of the dhcp server?
[03:24] <nearst> is it safe to upgrade from precise to raring ?
[03:25] <somsip> forehand: it depends on your network topology. Is the DHCP server a router or something?
[03:25] <somsip> nearst: some people always reinstall, other upgrade with varying degrees of success
[03:26] <motherbrain>  sudo apt-get install libtotem-dev
[03:26] <motherbrain> Reading package lists... Done
[03:26] <motherbrain> Building dependency tree
[03:26] <motherbrain> Reading state information... Done
[03:26] <motherbrain> E: Couldn't find package libtotem-dev
[03:26] <FloodBot1> motherbrain: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:26] <somsip> !find libtotem-dev
[03:26] <somsip> !info libtotem-dev
[03:26] <forehand> Yes, I am trying to setup an ubuntu server that has two network cards.  Cable modem into one, wireless roter into the other.  i want that box to be the dhcp server for any other computers connecting via wifi and I want that server also routing their internet traffic.
[03:27] <somsip> forehand: with my limited knowledge of these things, it seems like that server is the gateway then
[03:27] <levi-worley> forehand so you want a firewall kind of
[03:27] <nearst> somsip, yea. i still got karmic and precise. intel graphic work best at raring atm :s
[03:27] <fishscene> forehand: Set the gateway to the LAN (non-router) NIC IP address
[03:28] <somsip> nearst: I tend to follow reports of issues just after a release and got the impression that some drivers were more stable under precise. But I don't recall specifics
[03:28] <forehand> fish:  I am not sure what the LAN NIC is.  Is that the ubuntu box I described above?
[03:28] <fishscene> Gateway = The device seperating your network from an external network (your ISP). This is a generalization of course, but for this scenario, this works.
[03:28] <motherbrain> Ok so when compiling rythmbox I get this  ./.libs/librhythmbox-core.so: undefined reference to `totem_pl_parser_write_with_title'
[03:28] <motherbrain> now configure has a few settings for totem but I don't know how to resolve this issue with them
[03:28] <forehand> somsip: so if I want to make  that the gateway I am not sure what to set the gateway IP to since the ip of that box is dhcp'd from my cable provider.
[03:28] <somsip> motherbrain: compiling packages is not really supported here. You might need to contact rhythmbox authors direct
[03:29] <motherbrain> or turn off useing totem
[03:29] <somsip> forehand: 'dhcp auto' will automatically set the gateway if it's provided by the DHCP server IIRC?
[03:30] <forehand> fishscene: Ah, thanks.
[03:30] <nearst> somsip, yea. that one is from x-swat.
[03:30] <somsip> nearst: then you might need to investigate elsewhere as xswat PPA is not supoted here
[03:31] <somsip> *supported
[03:31] <motherbrain> does anybody know how to resolve this issue .  I am currently on  2.6.32-21-generic #32-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 16 08:10:02 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:31] <forehand> somsip:  I am talking about my dhcp server configs gateway setting.  My gateway has it's gateway set automatically from my isps dhcp.   I am trying to figure what gateway my other pcs should be.  I understand it should be the ip of my gateway, but since that IP changes I am not sure what to set it to.
[03:31] <forehand> *should use
[03:32] <nearst> somsip, indeed. :)
[03:32] <somsip> forehand: youir other PCs see the wifi NIC on a different network from the cable modem IP. If your other PCs get their DHCP info from the new server you are setting up, it will broadcast the IP for the WiFi NIC and all should be good
[03:33] <motherbrain> Description:	Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS
[03:33] <motherbrain> Release:	10.04
[03:33] <motherbrain> Codename:	lucid
[03:37] <kenetik> anyone got a good tutorial for booting from an iso file with grub?
[03:39] <xangua> motherbrain: 10.04 desktop is not longer supported, only the server
[03:39] <nearst> kenetik, try this. upubuntu.com/2012/11/how-to-boot-iso-file-from-your-hard.html
[03:39] <kenetik> nearst: ty
[03:40] <motherbrain> damn this software is changing so quick that I cann't even compile a project without having to up grade the whole system every 3 months
[03:40] <SystemR> hi guys, quick question, so i have 2 motherboard, same model, i'm thinking of installing ubuntu onto usb on one of the motherboard, and then clone it to another usb and plug it in to the 2nd motherboard
[03:40] <SystemR> would that work?
[03:41] <SystemR> i'm cloning using dd
[03:41] <somsip> SystemR: linux is usually pretty good with this sort of thing - swapping hardware around. Difficult to say for sure until you try it
[03:41] <xangua> motherbrain: 10.04 was released almost four years ago
[03:42] <motherbrain> totem 2.30.2
[03:42] <SystemR> somsip, i'm wondering about the uefi, gpt, and certificate issue when cloning an installation
[03:42] <SystemR> long time ago it works with hard drive
[03:42] <SystemR> but i don't know about usb'
[03:43] <somsip> SystemR: no idea about uefi or gpt to be honest
[03:43] <SystemR> i'm giving it a try now, see if it works
[03:43] <SystemR> will post back here
[03:46] <motherbrain> how would one tell with configure not to uses the reference totem_pl_parser_write_with_title
[03:46] <somsip> motherbrain: you really would be better off contacting the authors direct...
[03:46] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, i-don't-know-how-many-hours-later, I've got XUbuntu reinstalled, it seems to boot past where it was last time (I see the Xubuntu logo and the loading bar ping-pongs back and forth for a while) and then... black screen with no output :-/
[03:47] <xangua> motherbrain: for your own good upgrade to a supported ubuntu release
[03:47] <xangua> for your sake*
[03:47] <somsip> motherbrain: if you insist on trying to build it, there is an IRC channel for #rhythmbox on irc.gnome.org
[03:48] <motherbrain> is there an simply apt-get way for that since I don't want to go to distro watch and burn an iso and install it
[03:49] <motherbrain> to get a new version /upgrade my linux version. I just want a gnu project that I can build with out issues so I can test debugging it in emacs
[03:50] <LordNed> hitsujiTMO, correction... it stays at a black screen for about ~4 minutes and then it logs in and I have a desktop now ^o^
[03:53] <RoadKoan> geez did I hit list or join a chyaan
[04:00] <owl> hi
[04:01] <onetinsoldier> hi
[04:01] <owl> https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/BuildingASourcePackage
[04:01] <locoloco> how can I get Ctrl+h to act like the Backspace key system-wide? Works as expected in Terminal but nowhere else (HUD, web browser etc.)
[04:01] <owl> http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html
[04:01] <somsip> owl: do you have a support question?
[04:02] <SystemR> does anyone know how to re-add uefi boot entry?
[04:02] <owl> sorry
[04:03] <owl> i just learning about packaging for deb
[04:03] <owl> but when i try
[04:03] <owl> this part -> 6.2. Starting a Package
[04:03] <owl> at bzr dh-make hello 2.7 hello-2.7.tar.gz
[04:03] <owl> command
[04:03] <owl> bzr: ERROR: command 'dh-make' requires argument TARBALL
[04:03] <owl> it shows that error
[04:03] <owl> anyone can help?
[04:05] <somsip> owl: that's not really something that's supported here, but if you search for that error message (ERROR: command 'dh-make'...etc) there might be something that will help you in the results
[04:05] <RoadKoan> owl: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-packaging-guide/+bug/976748
[04:05] <RoadKoan> ubotta got it
[04:06] <RoadKoan> terr ubottu
[04:08] <onetinsoldier> owl: there's  also an ubuntu-dev channel
[04:11] <SonikkuAmerica> onetinsoldier, owl: #ubuntu-devel
[04:12] <onetinsoldier> uhhhm
[04:12] <onetinsoldier> yeah
[04:12] <owl> ok, thanks
[04:12] <onetinsoldier> kinda what i said
[04:15] <motherbrain> curious what is the difference between .lo and .a (achived with .o files)
[04:15] <motherbrain> is .lo just the name given to archived object files
[04:15] <motherbrain> no a days
[04:16] <motherbrain> no = now
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> motherbrain: where did you find those files?
[04:17] <motherbrain> when I am compiling an version of rythmbox 0.12.8 with success finally
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> motherbrain: maybe here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5895649/difference-between-a-o-and-lo-file
[04:19] <onetinsoldier> dlocate -S /usr/lib/libbfd.a; binutils-dev: /usr/lib/libbfd.a
[04:19] <onetinsoldier> there's a good number of .a files installed on my sys
[04:21] <sjd_zeus> #join #ubuntu-cn
[04:25] <motherbrain> that link actually does not explain the difference between .a and .lo but I think I can guess when .a are full of .o files then it would be safe to rename them to .lo files
[04:25] <onetinsoldier> motherbrain: have you tried the 'file' command on  a .lo file?
[04:29] <onetinsoldier> motherbrain: have you tried the 'file' command on a .lo file?
[04:30] <jblack> fishscene:  Trusty handles macbook pros, 11,2. =)
[04:31] <forehand> how do I PM someone?
[04:31] <forehand> is it /m nick msg?
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> forehand: /query nickname
[04:31] <forehand> thanks lotuspsblabla
[04:32] <Guest44381> hey quick question here i got ubuntu 32 running through virtual box and i got it on the iso.  Its now on the welcome screen where i can either try it or install it but I cant see the mouse when its directed on the pop out welcome screen. What am I doing wrong?
[04:32] <jinppk> Can i find out when the 3.12 kernel will be released for ubuntu 13.10? it contains better suppoert for my hardware so i am eager to get it...
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> !tab | forehand
[04:32] <forehand> guest: unplug mouse, plug it in again?
[04:32] <forehand> thanks again lotuspsychje
[04:32] <forehand> ;)
[04:32] <Guest44381> i am using a labtop so mouse is on my comp
[04:33] <Guest44381> and it wont let me disable mouse integration for some reason
[04:33] <forehand> I am trying to setup a box as my router and dhcp server.  In the dhcp config I am not sure what ip address to set the gateway to.
[04:33] <forehand> guest: can't you get along without a mouse.  tab?
[04:34] <nearst> forehand, well... class C should be ok im guess ;)
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> !dhcp | forehand
[04:34] <Guest44381> i dont see why i shouldnt be able to use it without a mouse
[04:34] <Guest44381> im using a mousepad on my laptop but my cursor is not shown on the screen and im not sure why
[04:37] <forehand> guest: I'd try to get installed and then find the right driver for your touchpad.
[04:38] <forehand> nearst: are you messin with me?
[04:39] <forehand> guest: did you try using the tab key to highlight whatever button or textbox you needed?
[04:40] <Guest44381> forehand: i got it i just had to reboot must of been a bug
[04:40] <Guest44381> thanks though
[04:41] <forehand> Guest44381: :)
[04:42] <forehand> I am trying to setup a box (BOX) as a router and dhcp server.  I am not sure what ip address to use for the gateway in the dhcp server config.  I think it's supposed to be the ip of BOX.  Right?
[04:43] <somsip> forehand: if you set the clients as 'dhcp auto' they should set the gateway automatically
[04:48] <Guest44381> forehand: I got it up and running, is there any way to access my documents from my host computer?
[04:50] <forehand> somsip- so I can skip specifying the gateway in the dhcp config altogether?
[04:50] <somsip> what dhcp config are you referring to?
[04:51] <forehand> somsip: /etc/dhcp3/*.config
[04:51] <forehand> somsip: er  .config
[04:51] <forehand> somsip: I MEANT .conf
[04:51] <somsip> forehand: and what tutorial or guidance notes are you following for this?
[04:52] <Abhijit> hi. i assigned a password to root user. but still for many actions where root user authorization is required the system only accepts the original non root sudo user account password and not the root password.
[04:53] <forehand> somsip: looking for it...
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> !sudo | Abhijit
[04:54] <forehand> somsip: can't find it.  Know of a good one for a basic home network?
[04:54] <somsip> forehand: the first two tutorials I get for this make no mention of having to set a gateway in dhcp3.conf http://is.gd/JUhVU5 http://is.gd/5xgi6i
[04:54] <Abhijit> lotuspsychje, i do not want the sudo. hence i assigned seperate password to root.
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> !root | Abhijit
[04:55] <Abhijit> :-(
[04:55] <Abhijit> lotuspsychje, nvm.
[04:57] <forehand> somsip: I'll follow it.  Thanks.
[05:01] <forehand> somsip: Do I have to "specify a WINS server" if I am going to have windows clients?
[05:03] <somsip> forehand: I'd suggest you get dhcp working one step at a time and then figure out your netbios entries later
[05:13] <babinlonston> Any one there to help me ? facing issue with  vsftpd using ssl  , Error:	GnuTLS error -12: A TLS fatal alert has been received. ,Error:	Could not connect to server, This is the Error I'm Facing
[05:15] <kenetik> babinlonston: Are you connecting from an ubuntu computer? Or trying to connect to an ubuntu server?
[05:16] <somsip> babinlonston: two different sources confirm this is worth looking at http://is.gd/TXhrOt
[05:16] <babinlonston> Connecting from a Ubuntu 12.04 Using filezilla, to a Ubuntu Server 12.04
[05:16] <Iriez> Hello all! Could anyone assist with a boot issue? My ubuntu is not running the crypt to load my encrypted LVM at boot....it gets stuck
[05:16] <babinlonston> Even Tried in Centos 6.4 Server too same issue facing
[05:18] <Iriez> to clarify, grub correctly has selected the OS but its not prompting me to enter my pass for the encrypted lvm
[05:19] <babinlonston> somsip: i have Configured for local user , so i can't Use ssl_ciphers=HIGH
[05:20] <babinlonston> somsip:  And now im getting GnuTLS error -15: An unexpected TLS packet was received
[05:20] <somsip> babinlonston: this looks similar and is solved http://is.gd/SpDAIR (have you tried searching for any of this yourself?)
[05:20] <locoloco> how do I map Ctrl+h act like Backspace in Unity HUD?
[05:21] <babinlonston> somsip: from yesterday morning I'm Facing this issue and struggling at last I'm here now
[05:22] <somsip> babinlonston: well if you've searched thoroughly, I'll stop searching for you then
[05:22] <troop> hi, i copy my developing folder to /home/username/here  but i give this error
[05:22] <troop> .htaccess pcfg_openfile: unable to check htaccess file, ensure it is readable
[05:22] <Scrill> need help...i installed ubuntu on my new dell laptop and now i'm having issues with the windows side and intel rapid tech
[05:23] <troop> i tried this:  chmod 755 /home/username/here  nothing changed
[05:24] <Scrill> need help...i installed ubuntu on my new dell laptop and now i'm having issues with the windows side and intel rapid tech
[05:25] <somsip> !patience | Scrill
[05:25] <Scrill> thanks
[05:26] <kenetik> somsip: Good call.
[05:26] <somsip> troop: you need to change the permissions on the *content* of /home/username/here. That would be chmod -R 755 /home/username/here
[05:27] <LordNed> Black screen while booting up, yaaaay....
[05:27] <somsip> troop: but it's possible the ownership migth need changing too
[05:27] <kenetik> LordNed: What kind of computer? What vid card? What version of Ubuntu
[05:27] <LordNed> kenetik, sorry, I'm just griping cause I've been at this for 12 hours now :)
[05:28] <somsip> Scrill: these are tricky as people here might point you to ##windows, and people there might point you here. Persoally, I have no idea...
[05:28] <troop> somsip, i changed, but my webpage comes empty :/
[05:28] <somsip> troop: check your apache error log
[05:28] <Scrill> k..where can i learn about using linux?
[05:29] <somsip> !manual | Scrill
[05:29] <LordNed> Running Xubuntu 12.10, got it installed and it booted once, then I installed the amd drivers (fglrx-updates, fglrx-amdcccle-updates, fglrx-updates-dev... booting just takes forever I guess
[05:29] <LordNed> Because now I have a black screen with a cursor
[05:29] <Scrill> !manual
[05:29] <LordNed> Like a mouse cursor, not a flashing _
[05:29] <somsip> Scrill: the idea being, you follow the link and read it
[05:29] <Scrill> thanks
[05:30] <troop> ok
[05:31] <kenetik> Ah, let me know when boot up is complete. If your speaking to me say name: LordNed: I often go AFK and come back, that way I'll know I was called.
[05:31] <LordNed> kenetik: Okay that booted up with no desktop drawing (black screen), and then the "Information avaible" popups.
[05:31] <troop> somsip, http://pastebin.ca/2508872
[05:31] <LordNed> kenetik, I can ssh into the machine so all is not lost!
[05:32] <stalkedbyex> need help removing smbios and getting clean boot
[05:33] <somsip> troop: the cache directory is not writeable to www-data user. You need to read about moving apache webroot to a home directory and make sure you understand what permissions changes are involved
[05:33] <somsip> troop: starter http://is.gd/6VWTt8
[05:34] <ObrienDave> !nomodeset
[05:34] <ObrienDave> drat, what is that GRUB setting?
[05:35] <somsip> ObrienDave: to do what?
[05:35] <troop> somsip, thanks im reading
[05:36] <ObrienDave> LordNed, you need something like nomodeset in GRUB. can't remember the command right now. (lack of coffee)
[05:36] <LordNed> ObrienDave, It appears that X no longer starts on boot after installing the AMD Catalyst Drivers
[05:38] <stalkedbyex> I have an HP ENVY and cant do anything with it everything is blocked, and i have isolinux with com.32 boot and everytime I get almost fixed someone changes config so I cant do anything any help would be GREATLY appreciated 11 months of this
[05:40] <kenetik> LordNed: sweet, so what are you trying now?
[05:41] <LordNed> kenetik, considering if I should run sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:41] <kenetik> both
[05:42] <LordNed> k, I'll let you know how it goes. So glad I installed ssh.
[05:42] <kenetik> yup
[05:44] <terrasapien> i'd rather run: sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[05:44] <Iriez> If my ubuntu gets stuck at initramfs when trying to load, how can i tell it to run the unlock crypt/password prompt?
[05:56] <LordNed> kenetik, I assume after sudo apt-get upgrade I should reboot?
[05:58] <root> hey
[06:04] <kenetik> LordNed: Yah, to see if you have the same issues after booting, hah.
[06:04] <LordNed> kenetik, ok cool. Waiting on a really slow package for Firefox at the moment, 13 minute eta alone on that >__>
[06:05] <kenetik> cool lemme know results
[06:10] <kenetik> I'm trying to catch Grub in a ~1 second window from a remote kvm, fml.
[06:11] <BAMbanda> how can I place a directory "install/bin" into my $PATH variable
[06:11] <BAMbanda> (I know the full path to the "install/bin")
[06:15] <terrasapien> BAMbanda, PATH="$PATH:/install/bin"
[06:15] <somsip> BAMbanda: in one of your startup files (~/.bashrc for example) put "PATH=$PATH:install/bin"
[06:17] <jefersen> greetings fellow ubuntuners
[06:17] <DeadLegion> Anyone know of an offline site archiving app that will archive EVERYTHING on the site?
[06:18] <jefersen> anybody familiar with django?
[06:18] <jefersen> looking for an eclipse equivalent for python on ubuntu
[06:18] <somsip> DeadLegion: wget will do a simple recursive scrape
[06:18] <somsip> jefersen: pycharm maybe
[06:18] <DeadLegion> somsip, yeah but it does not get everything.
[06:18] <Iriez> If my ubuntu gets stuck at initramfs when trying to load, how can i tell it to run the unlock crypt/password prompt for my encrypted LVM?
[06:18] <somsip> DeadLegion: what specifically do you want that it doesnt get?
[06:19] <jefersen> somsip: i'm a beginner, is that recommended?
[06:19] <somsip> jefersen: I use it, but do very little python
[06:19] <DeadLegion> for one thing embedded youtube videos
[06:19] <somsip> DeadLegion: youtube-dl
[06:19] <jefersen> somsip: hmm
[06:19] <DeadLegion> I want a backup of irongeek.com
[06:19] <somsip> DeadLegion: are you the copyright owner?
[06:19] <DeadLegion> Somsip the site is massive
[06:19] <DeadLegion> copyright owner of what?
[06:20] <somsip> DeadLegion: or irongeek.com content?
[06:20] <somsip> *of
[06:20] <shafox> i am having some issues regarding the while opening chrome after some time the system freezes and also getting this [  681.362431] [drm:gen6_sanitize_pm] *ERROR* Power management discrepancy: GEN6_RP_INTERRUPT_LIMITS expected 16070000, was 16000000 error on dmesg . Does upgrading the kernel to the latest stable will fix this ?
[06:20] <jefersen> somsip: the professional edition which includes web development isn't free
[06:20] <DeadLegion> No I'm not, I don't need to be to download for personal use.
[06:20] <somsip> jefersen: that's right
[06:20] <jefersen> somsip: do you use professional?
[06:21] <Jordan_U> jefersen: What features do you want in an IDE?
[06:21] <jefersen> Jordan_U: not sure but i want to develop a full fledged website that runs using python
[06:21] <somsip> DeadLegion: well, there is a big copyright notice on that, but maybe if you contact teh site owner and it is okay for personal use, they'll zip it all up for you
[06:22] <somsip> jefersen: ah - free, not 'without cost'. Yes, pycharm is not open-source.
[06:22] <DeadLegion> somsip, if you can browse the site it's for public use, if I were downloading content and somehow profiting from it in a commercial way that's when copyrights would come into it, otherwise it's no different from browsing the site.
[06:23] <somsip> DeadLegion: the owner of the site is the best person to make that call. Anyway, I've tried to help with recommendations but this chat is veering OT now
[06:23] <DeadLegion> Also I don't think they can zip up externel youtube videos
[06:24] <DeadLegion> somsip, my question was whether you knew of a app that can do this, you told me what I already know, obviously you can ask the owner.
[06:24] <memand> jefersen:  I'd recommend looking at virtualenv, virtualenvwrapper and some of the great python/django plugins that are out there for vim
[06:24] <nik_> is there a gui for changing keyboard layout? my esc key is dead but i wanna rebind kpenter to work as escape key
[06:25] <jefersen> memand: is that recommended for beginners?
[06:25] <somsip> nik_: in GUI or in terminal?
[06:25] <nik_> i prefer gui, somsip , but if i must i will use terminal
[06:26] <somsip> nik_: xmodmap will map it for use in terminal. Not sure what Unity is using nowadays for a GUI remapper so maybe someone else can chime in
[06:27] <nik_> there is app called something like sharpkeys that i used in windows7 partition for rebinding and i did it in 10 seconds
[06:27] <jsuarez> Alo
[06:29] <memand> jefersen:  you can use any editor you'd like but if you are going to spend significant time coding (and you will, if you are just starting out) I very much recommend learning vim. As for virtualenv(wrapper), yes. That is the way to go
[06:29] <jefersen> how do you "manually remove a package"?
[06:29] <jefersen> memand: ok, i'll have a look
[06:31] <somsip> jefersen: sudo apt-get remove {packagename}. Sometimes 'purge' is more tidy than 'remove'
[06:31] <somsip> jefersen: well, always more tidy I think
[06:31] <memand> jefersen:  http://vimeo.com/m/6999927
[06:32] <EminentDomain> fascinating... utorrent for ubuntu is missing some very crucial features
[06:32] <EminentDomain> very disappointed
[06:32] <jefersen> somsip and memand: cheers guys!
[06:33] <somsip> jefersen: np
[06:33] <memand> ^
[06:33] <Beldar> EminentDomain, I happen to have the worlds smallest violin what would you like to here?
[06:33] <Beldar> hear*
[06:34] <memand> EminentDomain: ?
[06:34] <jefersen> somsip: E: Unable to locate package django
[06:35] <EminentDomain> memand, the ability to add rss filters
[06:35] <somsip> !info python-django | jefersen (though it may not be as up to date as installing from the site)
[06:35] <EminentDomain> obviously not the place for it
[06:35] <eimis> hi. anyone here to help? I've got an asus n56vz lappie. 1) when I disable my discrete graphics with vgaswitcheroo, kernel panics after a few minutes. 2) when I download a (zip) file with chromium and click to open it, it always opens through chromium. Distro: ubuntu 13.10 x86_x64
[06:36] <EminentDomain> just did all this switching my server over to ubuntu server and then disovered what i wanted to do wasnt gonna work
[06:36] <EminentDomain> trying out qbitorrent right now to use if thats better
[06:36] <jefersen> somsip and ubottu: bash: !info: event not found
[06:37] <somsip> jefersen: I don't know what you;re doing now
[06:38] <jefersen> somsip: i just entered that in the terminal lol
[06:38] <jefersen> !info jefersen
[06:38] <shafox> reposting :: i am having some issues regarding the while opening chrome after some time the system freezes and also getting this [  681.362431] [drm:gen6_sanitize_pm] *ERROR* Power management discrepancy: GEN6_RP_INTERRUPT_LIMITS expected 16070000, was 16000000 error on dmesg . Does upgrading the kernel to the latest stable will fix this ?
[06:41] <jefersen> !info somsip
[06:41] <jefersen> !info python-django
[06:42] <memand> jefersen:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT1A1KKf0SI
[06:46] <KI7MT> shafox, you could try disabling APCI check at boot, use cat /proc/cmdline to see if ACPI is set to off, if not add it to grub config, then update grub and reboot.
[06:46] <KI7MT> ACIP not APCI .. sri
[06:47] <shafox> KI7MT, this is what i get BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-57-generic root=UUID=fe4efee2-1bb4-42df-bad4-95344ce75e49 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[06:48] <KI7MT> add acip=off after splash, then update grub.
[06:48] <nik_> how can i test if remapped Escape key is working? :D
[06:49] <memand> nik_:  press it?
[06:49] <shafox> KI7MT, the grub is at /etc/default/grub ??
[06:49] <KI7MT> /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[06:49] <KI7MT> make a backup first.
[06:50] <thief_and_a_liar> scrolling facebook, I get "borders don't fit within the image" all the time, and firefox crashes
[06:51] <shafox> KI7MT, there is whole lotta lines . where should i add
[06:51] <KI7MT> on the line you posted above, right after splash
[06:52] <nik_> memand, but where would Escape key effect be clearly visible?
[06:53] <somsip> nik_: run 'xev' in a terminal
[06:53] <memand> nik_:  a maximized YouTube video. Or if you have no DE then vi
[06:53] <KI7MT> shafox, before you reboot, and after sudo update-grub, check the cmdline again to make sure you have it correct.
[06:54] <somsip> memand: vi, vi! Always with the vi ;-)
[06:55] <memand> somsip:  well I can't think of many things that vim does not make bettet
[06:55] <memand> Kinda like Bacon
[06:56] <somsip> memand: I use it too. It's not a criticism :)
[06:56] <nik_> memand, DE then vi?
[06:56] <nik_> you mean the text editor?
[06:58] <nik_> well it seems it works.
[06:59] <memand> nik_:  if you don't have a DE (Desktop Environment) i.e. you can not check it on YouTube or something similar, you could test it in VI yes
[06:59] <nik_> i have full unity destop
[06:59] <KI7MT> shafox, just fyi, I'm not running  the 57 kernel, using 43 here, but I remember a bug in .40 that caused this error, and the later upgraded kernel fixed it.
[07:00] <nik_> state 0x10, keycode 104 (keysym 0xff1b, Escape), same_screen YES,
[07:00] <nik_>     XKeysymToKeycode returns keycode: 9
[07:00] <memand> Gotta go wake up (read: annoy) my roommate now
[07:00] <memand> Have fun
[07:00] <shafox> KI7MT, it wont break or anything right ??
[07:00] <cyberputz> you cant even use ascii youtube ? O.o
[07:00] <jefersen> memand: thanks, that helped!
[07:01] <nik_> keycode 9 is my normal ESC key that doesnt work. reported dead. but i guess i dont need to rebind escape key now when it is binded to kpenter?
[07:01] <KI7MT> shafox, it shouldn't break anything, but that's why you make a backup first.
[07:02] <KI7MT> shafox, you could do a dist-upgrade, and that will also put you on the latest kernel as well, but updates everything.
[07:02] <shafox> KI7MT, it didnt work. the cmdline shows the same output
[07:02] <KI7MT> you update grub ?
[07:02] <shafox> yes
[07:02] <shafox> update-grub update-grub2 both
[07:03] <KI7MT> daft question but, did you sudo edit the .cfg ?
[07:04] <shafox> yeah obv
[07:04] <shafox> :P
[07:04] <yohanes> hai
[07:07] <KI7MT> shafox, chk grub.cfg and make sure it's on the default kernel, not recovery, /proc may get updated after the reboot. then reboot the box.
[07:08] <KI7MT> shafox, if all else fails, do the dist-upgrade to get the latest kernel.
[07:08] <shafox> KI7MT, every time i change and do a sudo update-grub it reverts back to defaul
[07:09] <KI7MT> shafox, hold on one.
[07:10] <somsip> shafox: what file exactly are you editing?
[07:10] <shafox> /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[07:11] <shafox> somsip, ^^
[07:11] <somsip> shafox: try /etc/defaults/grub.cfg
[07:11] <KI7MT> that may be wrong
[07:11] <KI7MT> rr. may have to do the defaults, my bad.
[07:11] <shafox> somsip, there is no grub.cfg file in etc/default/ only grub file there
[07:12] <KI7MT> shafox, that's what UB help says too, /etc/defaults
[07:12] <Pilot_aus> Hi all. Can someone with a bit on hardware knowledge help me pic a cpu?
[07:12] <somsip> shafox: that's the one. I didn't check before suggesting it. No .cfg ont he end
[07:13] <kenetik> $ locate grub
[07:13] <shafox> somsip, still didnt get the result same as previous one
[07:13] <somsip> shafox: I don't understand what that means. I came in halfway through without knowing what you're trying to do, but suspected you were using the wrong file
[07:14] <KI7MT> shafox, in /etc/defaults/grub .. then GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acip=off"
[07:14] <shafox> reposting :: i am having some issues regarding the while opening chrome after some time the system freezes and also getting this [  681.362431] [drm:gen6_sanitize_pm] *ERROR* Power management discrepancy: GEN6_RP_INTERRUPT_LIMITS expected 16070000, was 16000000 error on dmesg . Does upgrading the kernel to the latest stable will fix this ?
[07:14] <Pilot_aus> Not sure if i should be looking at amd fm2 or am3 or intel. I need it to be budget :) and run virtualization
[07:14] <shafox> KI7MT, i did that only.
[07:14] <KI7MT> then sudo update-grub
[07:15] <shafox> yes
[07:15] <KI7MT> then check the cmdline agian and it's still not there?
[07:15] <shafox> nopes. it still shows the default one that the one i started with
[07:15] <somsip> shafox: how are you editing the file?
[07:16] <shafox> somsip, sudo vim grub
[07:16] <somsip> shafox: k. Seems fair
[07:16] <Zorin> need help with two issues im having. 1. qjackctl picks up xruns every few seconds with no aplications running. purging and reinstalling seems to fix this for a short period of time, "min-hrs" but then the issue is back. this is with realtime checked, 3 periods/buffer, 512Frames/period 48000 sample rate on a hp pavilion DV6 laptop 2. how do I get GTK-recorsmydesktop to like jack?
[07:16] <KI7MT> yeah, but we're pulling the cmdline from /proc which may get updated at boot.
[07:17] <shafox> will give a try hang on
[07:17] <KI7MT> shafox, if yoru sure the /default.grub is ok, then rboot the box.
[07:18] <linuxlite1969> hi guys i cannot install mysql in my linux can anyone help me please
[07:18] <KI7MT> ... sri .. /etc/default.grub
[07:18] <somsip> linuxlite1969: what have you done so far?
[07:18] <shafox> KI7MT, that one i have to change ??? i thought /etc/default/grub
[07:19] <KI7MT> why is this thing putting a period where I put a slash .. think my KB is hosed up.
[07:19] <shafox> ok ok
[07:19] <linuxlite1969> somsip> hmmm i download sudo apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client then it says Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:19] <KI7MT> yes, /etc/defaults/grub .. add the acip=off, save, sudo update-grub ..reboot. then check cmdline again
[07:20] <somsip> linuxlite1969: just sudo apt-get install mysql-server and it should pull in all other dependencies
[07:21] <scheuri> hi everyone...I have a little issue with the latest patch for linux-headers 3.2.0-57...I can not install them, because I supposedly have no space left on device (tells me apt-get -f install), tons of kerlnels in /boot, can not delete them, becaus the headers-dependency failed....anyone an idea what I can do (and no, I have about 2 GB space left on / and no seperate /boot partition)
[07:21] <shafox> KI7MT, rebooted. How do i know the issue is fixed ??
[07:22] <KI7MT> dmesg -k |grep GEN6_RP
[07:23] <KI7MT> if your still getting the error, bet option is to upgrade the kernel unless your well versed in hackign on kernels.
[07:23] <shafox> KI7MT, the cmdline again shows the same shafox@archon:~$ cat /proc/cmdline
[07:23] <shafox> BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-57-generic root=UUID=fe4efee2-1bb4-42df-bad4-95344ce75e49 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[07:24] <KI7MT> Thats really odd, editing the defaults should have placed acip=off in the /boot/grub.cfg .. not sure why that is not happening corrctly.
[07:26] <KI7MT> shafox, see para: 8 on this link, unless I've steered you wrong, that should have worked: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Setup
[07:26] <shafox> KI7MT, [   19.062517] [drm:gen6_sanitize_pm] *ERROR* Power management discrepancy: GEN6_RP_INTERRUPT_LIMITS expected 16000000, was 12060000
[07:26] <shafox> [   24.949823] [drm:gen6_sanitize_pm] *ERROR* Power management discrepancy: GEN6_RP_INTERRUPT_LIMITS expected 16070000, was 16000000
[07:26] <KI7MT> then para 9. sasy acip=off should appear.
[07:28] <KI7MT> shafox, that makes sense, as acip=off is not actually off, so it's had no affect on the kernel boot, thus your still getting the error. I dont know why grub is not getting updated.
[07:28] <shafox> well it aint happening in my case
[07:29] <shafox> can i compile the latest stable kernel from kernel.org in my ubuntu 12.04 ?
[07:30] <KI7MT> shafox, personally, I wouldnt' recommend that unless your well versed in custom compiling, best approach is sudo dist-upgrade
[07:32] <shafox> KI7MT, i did a sudo dist-upgrade .
[07:32] <shafox> there is nothing to update
[07:32] <shafox> or upgrade :)
[07:33] <KI7MT> shafox, well, that' means there's an issue with the .57 kernl itself.
[07:33] <KI7MT> kernel
[07:34] <KI7MT> in which case, you can live with it until the next patch comes out, or install a previous kernel.
[07:39] <TuxBlackEdo> Why is it that I can boot from my 16gb usb flash drive no problem but I can't off my 4tb seagate hdd?
[07:41] <cfhowlett> TuxBlackEdo, that's a perfect question with no answer because you've provided none of the details needed for analysis
[07:41] <cfhowlett> !details
[07:41] <Zorin> qjackctl picks up xruns without any applications running. purge and reinstall helps for a few hr. but then xruns.... cant get more than mid 20-30ms of latency . my DV6 laptop should do way better than that. should I revert from lowlatency kernel to regular kernel?
[07:41] <LordNed> kenetik, finally done with sudo apt-get upgrade. Time to restart and see what happens!
[07:42] <kenetik> LordNed: Good luck, seemed like more than 13 min
[07:43] <LordNed> kenetik, yeah that took me an hour to actually install the updates after downloading them. The write speeds on this USB drive are abysmal. Boots take 5+ minutes too
[07:44] <LordNed> Also it hangs on shutdowns - is it safe to hard-crash it after running sudo apt-get upgrade?
[07:44] <LordNed> Oh, didn't hang that time. Cool.
[07:45] <mike-irssi> shafox: you said grub reverts? i had that problem too, i used grub-customizer and it just worked
[07:46] <KI7MT> Im still baffled on why it's reverting in the first place, though I must admit, I dont do allot of custom edits to the grub.cfg
[07:49] <KI7MT> In his case, the real solution to the problem is probably beyond the scope of the this channel, more suited to the kernel Guru's and probably a bug report.
[07:52] <LordNed> Okay same issue kenetik - Xubuntu boots (see the bar that goes back and forth) and black screen for a long time and then I get a login screen, but it looks like X isn't running as I can't run "sudo aticonfig --adapter=all --odgt"
[07:52] <siwica> I have downloaded and unziped Aptana so that the directory now includes an excecutable binary and other stuff. Where am I supposed to move the whole stuff?
[07:53] <siwica> (in the file system hierarchy of linux?)
[07:53] <TuxBlackEdo> Okay so I install ubuntu on my 16gb flash drive and it gets detected and boots off the usb when I select it to boot from the bios. However when I have ubuntu installed onto my external 4tb drive and I try to boot off of it, the bios doesnt even see the drive...
[07:53] <somsip> siwica: if you've done it that way, wherever you want. Convention would suggest /opt with symlinks to the binaries in /usr/local/bin
[07:54] <kenetik> LordNed: ps aux | grep x
[07:55] <TuxBlackEdo> and I am beginning to suspect this may not be an ubuntu related error. I may as well have windows installed on the external drive, computers just don't want to boot from this external drive I have (I have verified this across multiple computers)
[07:55] <LordNed> kenetik, http://hastebin.com/hifupocije.m
[07:56] <kenetik> yah x isnt running
[07:56] <KI7MT> somsip, siwica this is a little dated but /opt is what the guys over at stack say too: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14484057/how-do-you-install-aptana-on-ubuntu-12-04-1
[07:56] <LordNed> I assume X is crashing (or having issues booting) kenetik - ever since I installed the amd catalyst drivers (which has a line about modifying the x config
[07:56] <LordNed> Is there a place I can find out why
[07:56] <kenetik> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf >> paste it
[07:57] <somsip> !fsh | KI7MT siwica
[07:57] <LordNed> kenetik, give me a couple mins, rebooting again (re-ran the setup for the Catalyst drivers to see if that'd help, don't think it will)
[07:58] <Purvesh0268> +
[07:59] <TuxBlackEdo> screw it
[07:59] <TuxBlackEdo> i give up
[07:59] <KI7MT> I have things like Intel / Portland compilers / MXE etc in /opt but also use /home/username/bin .. far to many ways to skin that cat :-)
[07:59] <ObrienDave> TuxBlackEdo, I have several external USB drives, never could get one to boot Linux. USB stick, no problem
[08:01] <KI7MT> What's TuxBlackEdo trying to do that's not working?
[08:01] <ObrienDave> use an external USB drive to boot a distro
[08:01] <LordNed> Doesn't matter, he left :p
[08:01] <ObrienDave> yup
[08:02] <ola2> what does upgrade grub do
[08:02] <ola2> means what does it change in grub
[08:02] <KI7MT> Hmm, that should work, it's tested like gozilian times in the Ubuntu QA group
[08:03] <edmon> test
[08:03] <edmon> ami connected
[08:03] <KI7MT> yes
[08:04] <edmon> at&t just had a 3 minutes outage, thankfully freenode has high ping threshold
[08:04] <KI7MT> ola2, it updates any changed made to your boot parameters, like, a new kernel or splash screen edits etc.
[08:04] <KI7MT> changes ..
[08:04] <ola2> kernel module or kernel algorithms
[08:05] <ola2> means way of functioning or increase functionality
[08:05] <ola2> what does it changes
[08:05] <KI7MT> don't know about algorithms but different kernel options yes.
[08:05] <ola2> ok
[08:05] <ola2> than you
[08:05] <ola2> k
[08:06] <LordNed> kenetik, contents of xorg.conf: http://hastebin.com/gatagipixu.cmake
[08:06] <TuxBlackEdo> wait this may help
[08:06] <TuxBlackEdo> what does it mean when gparted says "Partitions have beeen written but we have been unable to inform the kernel, probably because it is in use, as a result old partitons will remain in use. you should reboot now" weird thing is i can reboot however many times i want and it will always say this dumb error whenever i launch gparted
[08:06] <logical_> hi ppl, is there a way i can set somehow when i right click on desktop or in folder and go create new document that it shows me the ability to create an libre office writer or spreadsheet, i dont want always to go menu->libre writer then save as and then choose the place where to save  ??
[08:07] <KI7MT> TuxBlackEdo, measn your volume is mounted, to write partitions changes ot a volume, it must first be unmounted
[08:07] <KI7MT> means
[08:07] <cfhowlett> logical_, can need to set the save locations in writer settings
[08:07] <kenetik> what kind of vid card?
[08:08] <LordNed> kenetik, two Radeon 7950's ATI
[08:08] <logical_> i dont understand?
[08:08] <kenetik> eek
[08:08] <TuxBlackEdo> KI7MT, I am not operating on the partitions
[08:08] <KI7MT> sri abt the typos, my KB is not doign what I tell it :-)
[08:08] <TuxBlackEdo> gparted says it on launch ALL THE TIME
[08:09] <LordNed> if I run "sudo aticonfig --lsa" it reports "0. 04:00.0 AMD Radeon HD 7900 Series" (and the second one), so it's seeing them.
[08:09] <KI7MT> TuxBlackEdo, you can make changes to a mounted partition, if you need to do that, boot from a LiveCD, run gparted from the CD then make your changes.
[08:09] <KI7MT> you can't make .. ..
[08:09] <kenetik> Lord gimme output from startx
[08:09] <cfhowlett> logical_, tools > options > libreoffice > paths > edit ...
[08:09] <TuxBlackEdo> KI7MT, I have restarted my computer many times, gparted ALWAYS says that error
[08:10] <LordNed> kenetik, it's thinking - while it does that, the screen is actually displaying a login screen (which is odd because I set auto-login to true on install) - I assume this is a not-x fallback?
[08:10] <kenetik> si
[08:10] <KI7MT> TuxBlackEdo, lets start from the beginning .. what are you trying to partition / re-partition ?
[08:10] <LordNed> "xauth:  timeout in locking authority file /home/mewtin/.Xauthority
[08:10] <LordNed> " is the return from startx kenetik
[08:10] <LordNed> "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting" - sudo startx?
[08:10] <kenetik> are u root?
[08:11] <LordNed> I don't think so
[08:11] <kenetik> sudo rm -Rf /home/mewtin/.Xauthority
[08:12] <TuxBlackEdo> KI7MT, because I formatted a usb flash drive, and installed ubuntu on it, my computer recognizes that and boots right up. I do the same with my external usb hard drive and BIOS doesnt recognize it as a startup device
[08:12] <LordNed> kenetik, ran that then tried to startx again, same issue.
[08:12] <TuxBlackEdo> s/because//
[08:12] <kenetik> hmmm im stumped bud
[08:13] <LordNed> kenetik, is there any sort of error log for X?
[08:13] <KI7MT> TuxBlackEdo,  ... ok .. when you boot up do you have both the USB flash drive and the external USB drive connected?
[08:14] <kenetik> cd /var/log should be X.*.log
[08:14] <LordNed> Oh wait here's X trying to boot now that I ran it as root
[08:15] <TuxBlackEdo> KI7MT, no sir, i do one at a time
[08:15] <logical_> cfhowlett I am there but what should i edit?, i am new to linux
[08:15] <LordNed> http://hastebin.com/fujodiriyu.coffee kenetik - it's just looping "No protocol specified" now
[08:16] <KI7MT> TuxBlackEdo, this may not be UB related at all then, but when  you boot wiht jsut the external USB HD, as you said the BIOS does not identify the drive at all ?
[08:16] <kenetik> Dunno pimp.
[08:16] <LordNed> kenetik, well thanks for the help anyways, I guess I'll just bash around things until I hit something that works ;)
[08:16] <LordNed> Might try reinstalling X
[08:17] <siwica> somsip: KI7MT: thanks! this helps!
[08:17] <TuxBlackEdo> KI7MT, what I meant was the BIOS doesn't identify it as a boot device
[08:17] <TuxBlackEdo> but I have used other external drives before and they boot just fine
[08:18] <ObrienDave> TuxBlackEdo, did you set the partition as bootable?
[08:18] <TuxBlackEdo> ObrienDave, the installer did it, i confirmed it with gparted
[08:18] <ObrienDave> k
[08:18] <KI7MT> TuxBlackEdo, Ok, one other quesiton, if you boot from the USB (key) flash drive and you plug in the external USB Hard Drive, does Ubuntu see the drive?
[08:18] <somsip> siwica: np
[08:18] <TuxBlackEdo> KI7MT, yes ubuntu will see the drive
[08:19] <admin1> YYYY
[08:19] <admin1> cze
[08:20] <TuxBlackEdo> I know what the solution is... get a new external hard drive, this brand may just have some kind of flag which makes it impossible to boot off of?
[08:20] <ObrienDave> seriously doubt that. I have all WD and they wont work either
[08:21] <somsip> TuxBlackEdo: are you trying to boot from one big 4TB partition?
[08:21] <TuxBlackEdo> yes
[08:21] <TuxBlackEdo> 1 big ext4
[08:21] <KI7MT> TuxBlackEdo, sounds liek a BIOS issue to me, but, when booted from the USB Key, you could then use gparted to partition the drive, and further install from a LiveCD, making sure of two things, one the UDB HD is unmounted first, then install grub to the USB HD mbr.
[08:21] <hidden> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6587775/ anyone know whats wrong with my ubuntu?
[08:21] <somsip> TuxBlackEdo: then you need to use GPT or make smaller partitions
[08:22] <logical_> hi ppl, is there a way i can set somehow when i right click on desktop or in folder and go create new document that it shows me the ability to create an libre office writer or spreadsheet, i dont want always to go menu->libre writer then save as and then choose the place where to save  ??
[08:22] <KI7MT> somsip, just curious, why smaller?
[08:23] <ObrienDave> TuxBlackEdo, MBR doesn't support larger than 2TB
[08:23] <somsip> KI7MT: split into 2TB for home, 100MB for /boot, rest for / (whatever) then the MBR limit is worked around
[08:23] <somsip> TuxBlackEdo: http://is.gd/DKr0Mw
[08:23] <TuxBlackEdo> ookay thanks guys i think this is what I needed
[08:24] <TuxBlackEdo> <3 somsip ObrienDave KI7MT
[08:24] <somsip> TuxBlackEdo: but short answer (given I know nothing about GPT) is to partition in a structure that will help you later when something dies. One big partition is the most brittle style of partitioning
[08:24] <admin1_> dupa dupa
[08:24] <admin1_> świgut dupa
[08:24] <somsip> admin1_: do you have a support question?
[08:25] <RoChiMi> Muhahahahha
[08:25] <KI7MT> somsip, Ahh ok .. love this place learn something every time I drop in. I didn't know there was an MBR limit, I alway either use auto sizing or 100MB for /boot
[08:25] <TuxBlackEdo> why doesn't the installer stop me from creating a 4tb single boot partition
[08:26] <somsip> KI7MT: yeah - technology has just overtaken old standards, that's all. I don't know why the installer is dumb
[08:26] <TuxBlackEdo> hehe
[08:26] <KI7MT> TuxBlackEdo, I dont know, I need to look into that myself.
[08:26] <TuxBlackEdo> thanks again
[08:26] <lostsoul8898> s/join #windows
[08:28] <hidden> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6587775/ anyone know whats wrong with my ubuntu?
[08:28] <hidden> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6587775/ anyone know whats wrong with my ubuntu?
[08:28] <hidden> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6587775/ anyone know whats wrong with my ubuntu?
[08:28] <FloodBot1> hidden: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:29] <hidden> can anyone help plz i can't install anything i get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6587775/
[08:29] <hidden> trying to install libboost 1.48 all dev
[08:29] <LordNed> hidden, jesus christ stop asking, if someone knows they'll reply.
[08:30] <LordNed> kenetik, going with plan B: Reinstall X, purge AMD Catalyst drivers, reboot,t hen reinstall Catalyst drivers
[08:30] <KI7MT> TuxBlackEdo, One other thing, what are you using to do the installation, a LiveCD / ISO CD?
[08:31] <kenetik> kk
[08:31] <Zorin> is my internet (wifi) interfering with qjackctl causing xruns? I get xruns about every 30 sec. for seemingly no reason at all.  why I ask --->   http://www.linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=7104
[08:31] <TuxBlackEdo> I actually used VMWare to load the iso to install it to the HDD
[08:32] <ObrienDave> have you installed it that way before?
[08:32] <TuxBlackEdo> yeah
[08:32] <ObrienDave> k
[08:34] <hidden> i'm having the EXACT same problem as this guy https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+question/218608 if you check his last messagge you would know, it hasn't been resolved
[08:37] <teju> hi gavin : Can't open /dev/sdb1 exclusively.  Mounted filesystem?  ...i got this error when i executed pvcreate /dev/sdb1 ...do u know how to fix this?
[08:39] <ObrienDave> hidden, it seems to be solved: http://www.linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=7104#p20550
[08:39] <ObrienDave> hidden, sorry
[08:39] <ObrienDave> Zorin ^^^^
[08:40] <ObrienDave> Zorin, it seems to be solved: http://www.linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=7104#p20550
[08:40] <teju> ObrienDave: i got this error when i executed pvcreate /dev/sdb1 ...do u know how to fix this?  Error: Can't open /dev/sdb1 exclusively.  Mounted filesystem?
[08:40] <ObrienDave> teju, sorry, no clue on that one
[08:40] <teju> ok
[08:41] <KI7MT> TuxBlackEdo, ok, so this is a VM install, not a native install to the USB HD
[08:42] <nait> hello there ! i have this problem http://oi41.tinypic.com/2z3td76.jpg can someone help me?
[08:45] <TuxBlackEdo> wait no, actually I dd'ed the iso to a flash drive and installed from there to the HDD
[08:45] <teju> nait: do u have a LIVE CD?
[08:45] <ObrienDave> that should work
[08:47] <KI7MT> TuxBlackEdo, Ok, so you source install device is the USB key and the destination is then USB HD .. I would try, if you can, just a CD ISO / LiveCD form your CDROM and only the USB HD connected to the machine, assuming you do not have an internal HD installed . connected, and select use the whole drive (USB HD that is)
[08:48] <nait> teju, doesn't run on this machine...
[08:50] <ObrienDave> what doesn't run?
[08:50] <KI7MT> hidden, I've seen problem wiht lib6 and old kernels form multiple distro upgrades, I don't know is that's what you've done or not, but  form one LTS to the next is ok, but once your past that, things get really complicated.
[08:51] <nait> the live cd
[08:51] <nait> no sorry now is working O.o
[08:51] <hidden> i think i got my sources et bad KI7MT
[08:51] <hidden> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise main restricted universe
[08:51] <hidden> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise-updates main restricted univer$
[08:51] <hidden> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise-security main restricted unive$
[08:53] <cfhowlett> s = $ ????
[08:53] <nait> i have to use grub-install?
[08:53] <teju> nait: i got this error when i executed pvcreate /dev/sdb1 ...do u know how to fix this?  Error: Can't open /dev/sdb1 exclusively.  Mounted filesystem?
[08:53] <KI7MT> hidden, that would do it, but figuring out what sources you need is no easy task. That's a bit beyond my abilty.
[08:53] <hidden> 12.04 precise
[08:54] <KI7MT> hidden, did you have 10.04 installed previously?
[08:54] <hidden> yeah
[08:54] <KI7MT> hidden, somethignwent wrong in the distro upgrade it seems.
[08:54] <hidden> probably
[08:55] <hidden> not sure what to do
[08:55] <hidden> second vps i ordered with this shit problem
[08:55] <hidden> and timing is essential i'ma end up ordering another one :/
[08:56] <hidden> wasting too much time trying to fix it
[08:56] <KI7MT> hidden, how did you upgrade form 10.04 to 12.04?
[08:56] <hidden> well the usual way, to 11.x and then 11.x again i think andf then 12.04
[08:57] <jefersen> what is wing at 9:09? - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5VlpgEVVg4
[08:57] <cfhowlett> hidden, you know you could also download 12.04 and do a clean install  bypassing all those 11.x ...
[08:57] <snyp> Why does ubuntu come with the syslinux package installed? can i just remove it?
[08:57]  * snyp is trimming ubuntu up a bit
[08:57] <KI7MT> hidden, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade & sudo apt-get autoremove  .. then sudo do-release-upgrade ?
[08:58] <KI7MT> hidden, cfhowlett  .. if it's a remote VPS, could be tough.
[08:58] <hidden> i just did do-release-upgrade
[08:58] <snyp> i used uefi+gpt, so i can remove the syslinux package right?
[08:58] <hidden> cfhowlett, hows that?
[08:59] <cfhowlett> KI7MT, d'oh!  right.  didn't see that part
[08:59] <cfhowlett> hidden, ignore.  I didnt' know you were doing a remote vps
[08:59] <snyp> (actually, leave that, i should just remove other stuff and not deal with syslinux package. let it stay)
[09:01] <KI7MT> hidden, for servers, I dont like doign re-lease-upgrades, but that's just.  You could ask you host to install 12-04 server for you unless you ahve some way of accessing the container without going through the server OS
[09:06] <owl> hi,
[09:07] <owl> how to solve, package-contains-info-dir-file usr/share/info/dir.gz
[09:07] <owl> lintian error
[09:07] <Rory> owl: Can you please provide more details: what did you do to produce that error, what ubuntu version are you running?
[09:08] <owl> 12.04
[09:08] <Rory> owl: Where are you seeing that error?
[09:08] <owl> i'm building a package
[09:08] <owl> http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html
[09:09] <Rory> Please paste the command you ran, along with the full output onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and share the URL in this channel
[09:09] <owl> part 6.4. Next Steps
[09:09] <owl> bzr builddeb -- -us -uc
[09:10] <strit> owl, he means you should paste it into paste.ubuntu.com. Not in the chat. :)
[09:10] <owl> Now running lintian...
[09:10] <owl> W: hello source: bad-homepage dwiprabowo.com
[09:10] <owl> W: hello source: missing-license-paragraph-in-dep5-copyright open source (paragraph at line 5)
[09:10] <owl> W: hello source: out-of-date-standards-version 3.9.2 (current is 3.9.3)
[09:10] <owl> W: hello: wrong-name-for-upstream-changelog usr/share/doc/hello/ChangeLog.O.gz
[09:10] <owl> W: hello: wrong-bug-number-in-closes l3:#nnnn
[09:10] <owl> W: hello: readme-debian-contains-debmake-template
[09:10] <owl> W: hello: description-contains-duplicated-word asdf asdf asdf asdf
[09:10] <FloodBot1> owl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:10] <owl> W: hello: description-starts-with-leading-spaces
[09:10] <owl> W: hello: unknown-section jos
[09:10] <strit> awww, too late.
[09:11] <somsip> strit: he was on earlier too. I think he's new  to all this :)
[09:11] <strit> somsip, probably. That's why I tried to tell him before ho flooded. :)
[09:11] <owl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6587962/
[09:12] <somsip> owl: yay :)
[09:12] <rmichnik> Som
[09:12] <Rory> I did say, use paste.ubuntu.com I have little sympathy really
[09:13] <Rory> Please paste the command you ran, along with the full output onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and share the URL in this channel
[09:13] <Rory> owl: I can't see an error there
[09:13] <owl> is E: means error and W: means warning?
[09:14] <strit> owl, yeah, I should think so
[09:14] <Rory> Oh yes sorry I missed that
[09:15] <Rory> owl: Does your package contain a file which will be extracted to /usr/share/info/dir.gz?
[09:16] <owl> i'm not sure
[09:16] <Rory> owl: Is this software you wrote, and are trying to create a deb package for?
[09:17] <owl> yes,
[09:17] <owl> i just follow the step at http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html
[09:18] <Rory> owl: see the big yellow box here http://lintian.debian.org/tags/package-contains-info-dir-file.html
[09:18] <owl> already saw it
[09:19] <owl> but don't really understand
[09:20] <Rory> owl: It means somewhere in your package there is a file (probably in the usr/share/info) directory called dir or dir.gz, you need to remove it
[09:20] <KI7MT> It would appear the compressed file is generated automatilly, and is present already, so you need to get rid of it first.
[09:21] <owl> yes, i already remove it and execute the command again, but shows the same output
[09:21] <owl> btw, this the complete output http://paste.ubuntu.com/6587986/
[09:21] <KI7MT> :-) yeah, what Rory said :-)
[09:23] <Rory> owl: When you say you remove it and execute "the command" again, which command? just the lintian one?
[09:24] <owl> no,
[09:24] <owl> i execute "bzr builddeb -- -us -uc" every try to fix the "E:"
[09:26] <Rory> owl: I'm not sure then, can you try joining the channel #ubuntu-appdev
[09:26] <Rory> err not that channel, wait
[09:26] <KI7MT> may want to ask in ubuntu-app-devel ... they probably the best channel for that one.
[09:26] <Rory> owl: /join #ubuntu-app-devel
[09:27] <iulhk> anybody know about mondo disaster recovery, if i have backup of complete linux server iso saved then how can i use this iso image at new server ?
[09:27] <owl> ok thanks :)
[09:27] <KI7MT> :-) your too fast for me Rory .. Im on a slow Inet connection :-)
[09:28] <andyfied> iulhk: you might need to mount it as a VM, let me see what i can find out
[09:30] <shah0516> hello, I am facing mouse cursor freeze issue with my ubuntu 13.10 unity, it freezes at random time and mousebuttons and touchpad on my lappy doesnot work! previously I used to go into mouse settings and disabled/enabled touchpad to make it work. Now, restarting system only makes it work..
[09:30] <andyfied> iulhk: i found this: https://fuerstnet.de/en/using-mondorescue-restore-server-image-vmware
[09:31] <cfhowlett> iulhk, also see the #ubuntu-server channel
[09:31] <andyfied> iulhk: "allows to boot from its corresponding floppy disk image and to restore the ISO image to another machine"
[09:31] <shah0516> can anyone please help me on this? i tried switching to xfce but I had no luck.. it freezes at random times
[09:32] <strit> shah0516, maybe your hardware is failing? My touchpad goes in and out at random times because it's an old laptop. :)
[09:32] <andyfied> iulhk: Mondo has a few mailing lists for support, but i realise that may be a bit slow for anyone mid disaster...
[09:34] <shah0516> strit: may be :) I did not face this issue in windows7 (on dual boot) is there any way to check any log file/something to see if something triggers this?
[09:35] <strit> shah0516, /var/log/syslog might show something, if you can find your way around in it all. :)
[09:36] <KI7MT> shah0516, did you install xface on it's own or use the install Xubuntu-Desktop ?
[09:37] <shah0516> thanks strit! will check on next freeze... @KI7MT: I installed using "sudo apt-get install xfce4"
[09:38] <strit> shah0516, np, hope you solve it. I gotta log off now, my train is at my station any minute now. :)
[09:39] <KI7MT> shah0516, may want to try the full xubuntu-desktop and also ask the folks in Xubuntu, as they know Xface inside and out.
[09:40] <shah0516> thanks.. will try that!
[09:45] <Silmarilion> Hi, is it possible to install ubuntu on already created luks partition?
[09:48] <KI7MT> Silmarilion, yes, you can do a side by side (dual boot) or boostrap in a chroot and install that way, easiest way is using the LiveCD and install side-by-side
[09:49] <Silmarilion> ok
[09:49] <Silmarilion> tnx
[09:52] <koya> taybi
[09:54] <the_drow> Hi guys I have a three monitors setup (one laptop screen and two monitors) and the mouse isn't being transfered from one screen to another correctly. I'm running 13.10.
[09:56] <the_drow> It's something with the sticky edges.
[10:00] <the_drow> Wait, no it isn't.
[10:00] <KI7MT> the_drow, have you tuned of the sticky option?
[10:00] <the_drow> KI7MT: yup it still doesn't help. I can't move my mouse between the screens.
[10:01] <the_drow> KI7MT: and when I can the pointer moves to the wrong screen
[10:01] <KI7MT> There's a couple bugs written up on this, not sure which is the most current one yet.
[10:03] <the_drow> Should I try to upgrade to xorg edgers and see if it's resolved?
[10:03] <KI7MT> the_drow, there's some settings in Compizconfig Ssettings Manager > Ubuntu Unity Plugin >> Experimental Tab
[10:03] <KI7MT> I dont have multiple monitors to test with.
[10:04] <the_drow> KI7MT: I can't find it.
[10:06] <KI7MT> It's in the Software Center, CompizConfig Settings Manager
[10:09] <the_drow> KI7MT: I don't see the experimental tab
[10:11] <KI7MT> It's the third TAB on mine, but I only have the laptop monitor listed.
[10:12] <the_drow> the third tab is menus on Ubuntu Unity Plugin
[10:16] <Rory> Why does middle-click change the webpage in Firefox to a previous page (it's not the Back behaviour, as I have to click Back to go to the page I want to be on) and how can I stop it?
[10:16] <Rory> I'd rather use midle-click and drag to scroll
[10:16] <Rory> I believe this was the behaviour in older versions
[10:19] <afidegnum> hello, pls how do I create an ISO (CD image) file via SSH ?
[10:20] <KI7MT> the_drow, you may also need the compiz-plugin-extra package
[10:21] <the_drow> KI7MT: I can't find it
[10:22] <Rory> afidegnum: What do you mean? What are you trying to do?
[10:22] <ola2> pppl this is urgent
[10:22] <ola2> plz tell me how to disable usb storage on ubuntu
[10:22] <ola2> means for all users even root
[10:23] <ola2> disable system so that no pendrive is detected
[10:23] <ola2> and used
[10:23] <Rory> ola2: You won't be able to stop root from enabling it again
[10:23] <ola2> thats ok
[10:23] <ola2> tell me
[10:23] <hidden> whats the easiest way of making ssh key for vps
[10:23] <Rory> hidden: ssh-keygen
[10:24] <Rory> ola2: I googled "Ubuntu disable usb storage"
[10:24] <ola2> i google too found the not working solutions
[10:24] <hidden> thanks
[10:24] <Rory> ola2: echo "blacklist usb-storage" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[10:24] <ola2> Rory: solutions didnot work for me like blacklist.conf
[10:25] <Rory> ola2: What is the output of "lsmod | grep usb-storage" ?
[10:26] <ola2> Rory: there is no utput
[10:26] <ola2> but in ui it is showing pendrive and i can copy/paste data
[10:27] <Rory> ola2: Have you rebooted after performing that action?
[10:27] <ola2> ya
[10:27] <ola2> thats why im asking for help
[10:27] <KI7MT> the_drow, when you open CSSM, in the Filter box enter "Unity", then under Desktop select Ubuntu Unity Plugin
[10:28] <Rory> ola2: Can you please let me know the output of the command "cat /etc/issue" ?
[10:28] <the_drow> KI7MT: Got it, there's no experimental tab
[10:28] <KI7MT> dod you install the extra package ?
[10:28] <ola2> Rory : it shows Ubuntu 12.04 LTS /n /l
[10:29] <the_drow> KI7MT: As I said, I can't find it.
[10:29] <KI7MT> the_drow, sudo apt-get install compiz-plugins-extra
[10:29] <the_drow> KI7MT: I know... Ubuntu says it's not there
[10:30] <the_drow> KI7MT: Yes, I did apt-get update
[10:30] <ola2> Rory : Ubuntu 12.04 LTS /n /l
[10:31] <the_drow> KI7MT: It should be sudo apt-get install compiz-plugins
[10:31] <KI7MT> the_drow, not sure why it's not there, I just installed CSSM then the plugin extras and the Exp TAB is under Unity plugins.
[10:31] <snadge> this is totally the wrong place to be asking this.. but i think i may be having an issue with libc in saucy
[10:32] <snadge> hexchat, firefox and chrome seem to randomly trigger it
[10:32] <Rory> ola2: Can you please edit the file /etc/rc.local [ gksudo gedit /etc/rc.local ] and add the line "modprobe -r usb_storage" without the quotes, before the "exit 0" line
[10:32] <Rory> snadge: Do you get an error?
[10:32] <the_drow> KI7MT: sudo apt-get install compiz-plugin*s*-extra
[10:32] <ola2> Rory : Sir ,i did that too
[10:33] <KI7MT> the_drow, there's several plugings, compiz-plugins and compiz-plugins-extra
[10:33] <KI7MT> several plugins .. ..
[10:33] <the_drow> KI7MT: Still no experimental tap
[10:34] <the_drow> KI7MT: brb
[10:34] <KI7MT> ok
[10:34] <Rory> ola2: Can you please show me the output of the "lsmod" command?
[10:34] <Rory> Please paste the full output onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and share the URL in this channel
[10:35] <ola2> Rory : just wat a sec
[10:36] <ola2> Rory : pastebin.com/qHNFB8wS
[10:37] <Rory> ola2: OK I can see the usb_storage module is loaded - can you edit your blacklist.conf file again, but change "usb-storage" into "usb_storage"
[10:37] <ola2> Rory : ok
[10:38] <Gr1m> my wallpaper suddenly changed black and white in xfce.I found that that I should reset my  background settings in dconf but where would I find this ?
[10:40] <Rory> Gr1m: Go into Desktop settings (where you set your wallpaper) and make sure the Saturation slider is set to 1, not 0
[10:41] <oaulakh> i recently install windows 8 on diffrent partition but now my ubuntu is not booting up
[10:41] <Gr1m> Rory: It worked I thought it was the setting in dconf. Thanks
[10:41] <the_drow> KI7MT: back
[10:41] <oaulakh> what should i do?
[10:41] <Rory> !grub | oaulakh first link here
[10:42] <Rory> np Gr1m
[10:43] <oaulakh> how i recover it?
[10:43] <ola2> Rory: doesnot works
[10:43] <the_drow> All I need is that the pointer will move the second screen when it's on the left side of the screen and the laptop screen when the pointer is on the right side of the main screen
[10:43] <snadge> rory yes i do: [ 5719.809049] traps: hexchat[3980] general protection ip:7fb148cf391c sp:7fff0ac716e8 error:0 in libc-2.17.so[7fb148c70000+1bd000]
[10:44] <ola2> Rory : any idea
[10:44] <KI7MT> the_drow, Im not sure why your not seeing the exp-tab .. that's all I installed was those three packages and the Unity Plugins is under Desktop
[10:44] <Rory> ola2: Can you please pastebin your output of "lsmod" again, (after you have rebooted of course)
[10:44] <KI7MT> The the 3rd tab os the exp-tab
[10:44] <KI7MT> is
[10:44] <Rory> ola2: Can you also please pastebin the contents of your blacklist.conf file
[10:44] <Wubix> hello everyone. could somebody tell me how i fix the empty repo list in yum when installed via apt-get on ubuntu?
[10:44] <ola2> Rory:ok
[10:45] <Rory> Wubix: Why are you installing yum?
[10:45] <Wubix> because i need it
[10:45] <Rory> Wubix: on Ubuntu?
[10:45] <Wubix> can we please focus on my problem?
[10:46] <OerHeks> Wubix, ubuntu uses apt-get, yum is not supported.
[10:46] <Rory> Why do you need it?
[10:46] <ola2> Rory : pastebin.com/nKmfaFuD
[10:46] <ola2> i need it to make device control
[10:46] <Wubix> i installed yum from the ubuntu repository so when its in there i suppose its supported
[10:46] <Rory> not you ola2 lol
[10:46] <imghost> !info yum
[10:46] <Rory> ola2: The usb_storage module is still loaded, you need to add "blacklist usb_storage" to your /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf file
[10:47] <Rory> ola2: That is the answer, until you do that it won't work
[10:47] <Wubix> ok, this is chicken shit
[10:47] <Rory> troll or idiot?
[10:47] <KI7MT> thats' a good way to brick you system, as the dep versions different in yum and apt
[10:47] <OerHeks> Wubix indeed, yum is in the repo's, i wonder what fool did that.
[10:47] <imghost> Wubix, why are you trying to install .rpm on ubuntu?
[10:48] <Rory> He's gone
[10:48] <KI7MT> installing an RPM is not a problem, version control and deps are the problem.
[10:49] <imghost> agreed
[10:49] <ola2> Rory:any idea
[10:49] <Rory> ola2: Can you please put the contents of your /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf file on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[10:49] <Rory> ola2: I've repeatedly told you exactly how to fix it
[10:49] <ola2> ok Rory : im doing that now
[10:51] <ola2> Rory : www.pastebin.com/5ZTnZMXg
[10:51] <the_drow_> KI7MT: I just switched the cables and the HDMI screen is now the main screen. The order is now correct and the mouse travels between screens correctly. I have no idea why is that
[10:52] <Rory> ola2: OK you can reboot, or you can run "sudo modprobe -r usb_storage"
[10:53] <KI7MT> the_drow_, pass, I dont either, I know there were several bugs written on it, and the solutions all pointed compiz fix.
[10:54] <KI7MT> the_drow_, maybe you should submit a bug on launchpad, just to document the fix.
[10:57] <collo_kg> Hello,
[10:57] <Rory> Hello collo_kg
[10:57] <collo_kg> I try to install chrome on ubuntu 12.04 for one day and I get the following error:
[10:57] <collo_kg> google-chrome-Stable: Depends: libnss3 (> = 3.14.3) but 3.14.1-0ckbi1.93ubuntu.0.12.04.1 must be installed
[10:57] <Rory> collo_kg: Can you please open your Software Properties or Software Sources program, and ensure the Universe repository is enabled
[10:58] <Rory> collo_kg: then run the command: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install
[10:58] <KI7MT> You need sudo apt-get install libnss3-1d
[10:59] <Rory> apt-get -f install should do that
[10:59] <Rory> if not, then yes install that manually
[10:59] <collo_kg> I tried this command, but I always have an error
[10:59] <Rory> Please paste the full output onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and share the URL in this channel
[11:00] <KI7MT> Agreed, but using -f is generally not a good ideas if you can avoid it.
[11:00] <collo_kg> I also tried manually, I downloaded the package
[11:01] <Rory> collo_kg: I mean, please can you enable the Universe repository, then run the commands "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install" - if you still get errors please put them on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[11:01] <Rory> If I can see the full output (including apt-get update so I can see what repos you're using) I can definitely fix it
[11:02] <KI7MT> he may also need:  libgconf2-4 libxss1  .. build-dep is a good good option.
[11:03] <collo_kg> thank's Rory , I'll try
[11:04] <Rory> installing a downloaded deb doesn't bring in the dependencies. that's what apt-get is for. if you attempt to install a deb manually that has dependencies which aren't installed, it will remain in an inconsistent state. apt-get -f install will fix this by pulling in dependencies (that's what apt-get is for)
[11:05] <collo_kg> OK
[11:05] <KI7MT> Hmm I guess the quesiton would be, why install the .deb insted of using the repo version?
[11:06] <Rory> Because there isn't a repo version
[11:06] <Rory> not of google-chrome-stable, only chromium-browser
[11:07] <KI7MT> Could he not just sudo apt-get build-dep chromium-browser .. ?
[11:07] <KI7MT> Ahh . ok, got it.
[11:07] <Rory> build-dep pulls in the dependencies required to build the source package
[11:07] <Rory> it's only for compiling software
[11:07] <KI7MT> rr
[11:08] <collo_kg> good
[11:10] <Abhijit> hi. i set aliases in "terminator". when i restart system then the alias do not exist. help please. 12.04 ubuntu
[11:10] <Pessimist> Abhijit, set aliases in ~/.bashrc
[11:10] <Abhijit> ok
[11:11] <Abhijit> Pessimist, what is the root- home folder? i mean where is bashrc of root?
[11:11] <Pessimist> Abhijit, root account is disabled in ubuntu as far as I know
[11:11] <Abhijit> :-(
[11:12] <Abhijit> Pessimist, I know. I enabled it.
[11:12] <KI7MT> Rory, wow, I been under the impression, why I do not know, that -f == --force the install, not solve deps, my bad, sri for confusing things.
[11:14] <Pessimist> Abhijit, login to root and cd $HOME
[11:14] <Abhijit> Pessimist, got it. its on /root
[11:15] <Rory> KI7MT: By itsself with no arguments, it will forcibly install packages from the repositories which are needed, and that you didn't actually specify
[11:15] <Rory> KI7MT: So you aren't wrong
[11:15] <neko> hi everybody
[11:15] <Rory> collo_kg: Status?
[11:16] <neko> is it normal that running something like 1000 simple update query take like 10 sec.  ?
[11:17] <collo_kg> I always have an error, I give you a sign when I finish. thank you
[11:17] <Pessimist> neko, this is ubuntu support not whatever sql server you're running
[11:17] <neko> ah oups
[11:17] <neko> lol
[11:17] <neko> sorry thought i was on #mysql
[11:20] <Rory> collo_kg: OK but you could show me the error
[11:21] <imkunal> Howdy buntu's ??
[11:21] <Rory> imkunal: Was that a support question? :S
[11:22] <imkunal> whatever
[11:22] <imkunal> Rory: maybe ;)
[11:23] <rpi84> hi, could someone help me please, http://pastebin.com/YWHb7KSX, it is impossible for  me mount SATA cd-rom in Ubuntu 12.04, already tried some forums but no succes
[11:24] <imkunal> rpi84 : whats' the problem ??
[11:25] <k1l> rpi84: put a disc in it
[11:25] <k1l> status=nodisc
[11:25] <Rory> rpi84: You're trying to mount /dev/scd0 also, whereas your device is /dev/sg1
[11:26] <rpi84> disc is in, if i try mount dev/sr0 mnt/cdrom i get: no medium found
[11:27] <rpi84> there was win xp on pc, cdrom was ok, but no with ubuntu doesn't work
[11:29] <rpi84> status= nodisc i see, but disc is in, ubuntu found cdrom, so it is possible that optical device is broken? or shoud be possible bad bios setting ect..?
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> rpi84: if you run:  sudo lshw -C disk; sudo lshw -C drive      do you see the drive
[11:30] <VitoCorleone> Hello.
[11:32] <KI7MT> You could also sudo lshw -short | grep /dev/
[11:33] <rpi84> disk is ok, drive any list http://pastebin.com/4TJGxhug
[11:35] <imkunal> anyone tried fifa 13 on ubuntu 13.10 via playonlinux/wine ??
[11:35] <k1l> !wine | imkunal better ask the wine specialists
[11:36] <imkunal> thanks
[11:37] <framac> Hi guys I'm thinking to upgrade to trusty but I need to disable the extras repositories, what are the implications of that action?
[11:38] <OerHeks> framac, do you mean restricted-extra's metapackage?
[11:39] <framac> OerHeks: no, I mean the Independent repository
[11:40] <k1l> framac: trusty is not final until april 2014. support in #ubuntu+1 for that until then
[11:40] <OerHeks> framac, upgrade will disable ppa's AFAIK
[11:40] <k1l> yes, all 3rd party repos
[11:41] <framac> @kll thank you
[11:41] <framac> OerHeks: yes, but the extras repository is not a ppa
[11:42] <rpi84> KI7MT: lshw -short | grep /dev/ nothing on list
[11:43] <KI7MT> Trusty is changing by the minute, you probably better off installing it in a VirtualMachine or something and playing around that way v.s. upgrading.
[11:45] <KI7MT> rpi84, what aboutL ls -l /dev/{cd,dvd}*
[11:46] <rpi84> pastebin.com
[11:47] <rpi84> KI7MT:  i get his: http://pastebin.com/6zR5jSS9
[11:49] <KI7MT> rpi84, that looks to me that the device is present, but doesn't have a mount point.
[11:50] <KI7MT> rpi84, mount  /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom-trst -t iso9660
[11:51] <k1l> please try another disc
[11:51] <k1l> and make sure its not empty
[11:51] <KI7MT> .. sri .. /media/cdrpm-test -t iso9660
[11:51] <venkat> Hello i have installed Ubuntu 12.04 successfully. Before removing installation media power failure. After that i can not BIOS and boot also. please some one help me...
[11:51] <Rory> venkat: That isn't related to Ubuntu, if you cannot even access the BIOS
[11:52] <ola2> Rory: problem solved
[11:52] <ola2> plz can anyone help me
[11:52] <ola2> where is root password stored in ubuntu
[11:52] <ola2> means in which file
[11:52] <Rory> !root
[11:52] <k1l> ola2: there is no root pw. and the pw is not stored in plain text
[11:52] <LjL> ola2: passwords aren't really "stored" anywhere, their hashes are
[11:52] <venkat> How can I get Boot
[11:53] <framac> How can I tell wich packages are in a repository of ubuntu?
[11:53] <menace> framac: "apt-cache policy"
[11:53] <ola2> ok so iwll convewrt hash to password
[11:53] <ola2> could i
[11:53] <Rory> framac: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[11:53] <Rory> ola2: /etc/shadow
[11:53] <rpi84> KI7MT:  i get> connect only for reading ...> no medium found in /dev/sr0 , is this way right /dev/sr0?
[11:53] <ola2> when i type sudo it asks for password then howcome password doesnot have value
[11:54] <framac> menace: if I want to know what packages are in the independent repository
[11:54] <Rory> ola2: That is *your* password, not roots
[11:54] <ola2> Rory:its in hash
[11:54] <menace> packages.ubuntu.com
[11:54] <ola2> is there way to conert it
[11:54] <Rory> ola2: Correct, obviously!
[11:54] <Rory> ola2: No
[11:54] <Rory> ola2: There is no root password
[11:54] <menace> or you debmirror the complete repository
[11:54] <Rory> ola2: This isn't something you can argue about, it is just true
[11:54] <ola2> ya i know thats my password
[11:54] <framac> Rory: what about the independent repository
[11:54] <ola2> but can i convert this password
[11:54] <venkat> Rory please help me
[11:54] <ola2> i want to know this password
[11:54] <Rory> framac: You can use "apt-cache search packagename" on your pc
[11:54] <Rory> ola2: You can't see user passwords in plain text
[11:55] <Rory> ola2: You can change your password with the "passwd" command
[11:55] <ola2> ya ya where
[11:55] <LjL> ola2: the entire *point* of having it hashed is so that it can *not* be converted back
[11:55] <KI7MT> rpi84, sr0 is the device, but maybe the rom itself is not working properly.
[11:55] <ola2> LjL : i want to retrieve this password
[11:55] <Rory> ola2: You have forgotten your password?
[11:55] <LjL> ola2: you can keep saying that and ignoring what you're being told, or you can listen
[11:55] <venkat> Rory : where can i get help?
[11:55] <ola2> suppose i have root access then how can i know this password
[11:55] <ola2> no
[11:55] <ola2> i have a parental lock app
[11:56] <framac> Rory: the thing is, I'm planning to upgrade to trusty, but because I need to disable the extras repository I need to check if I have something installed from that repository, but I dont know how to do that, any thoughts? thks
[11:56] <ola2> i want to know users password
[11:56] <k1l> just set a new pw in recovery
[11:56] <LjL> ola2: i'm not really sure we want to help you bypass parental lock
[11:56] <LjL> ola2: but even if we wanted to, really, this is intended so that you cannot reverse the hash
[11:56] <Rory> ola2: You can set a new password with "sudo passwd username" - replace username with the username of the account you want to change their password
[11:56] <ola2> so that i can control device access of child
[11:56] <Rory> ola2: for example "sudo passwd fred"
[11:56] <ola2> Rory : i dont want to set password
[11:56] <Rory> ola2: You cannot see what the password is, of course
[11:56] <rpi84> KI7MT: ok, thanks lot for helping i will  try another CDROM if i will find some
[11:56] <KI7MT> rpi84, the hardware being identified or listed is one thing, being able to read / write is another, it may not be working properly.
[11:56] <Rory> ola2: That would be ridiculous
[11:57] <ola2> i just need to know it
[11:57] <LjL> you can't.
[11:57] <Rory> ola2: What is the name of the account you want to know the password for?
[11:57] <ola2> sid
[11:57] <Rory> ola2: type in "sudo passwd sid" and then set a new password. then you will know what it is
[11:57] <Rory> ola2: problem solved
[11:57] <ola2> lol
[11:58] <ola2> Rory : suppopse if child changes password then
[11:58] <Rory> ola2: You can prevent individual users from running sudo
[11:58] <ola2> Rory : i just have an app to run on ubuntu and have acces root
[11:58] <ola2> i will  make a payload type app
[11:58] <ola2> which will control childern
[11:59] <Rory> ola2: You cannot see users passwords
[11:59] <Rory> ola2: Obviously
[11:59] <Rory> ola2: This discussion is over
[11:59] <ola2> suppose im root then how to know password
[11:59] <LjL> ola2: you can't. stop asking.
[11:59] <k1l> ola2: stop it
[11:59] <ola2> if im root then can i know passwd of a user
[11:59] <ola2> ok
[12:00] <k1l> the answer is not changing just because you ask 100times
[12:01] <oquidave> hello
[12:02] <rpi84> KI7MT: it's possible it was broken during short trip, but computer works ok, anyway it's curious. because in windows xp works before one week now it isn't
[12:02] <oquidave> how do i control the numbering of usb devices? my ubuntu 12.04 has inconsistent numbering. http://pastebin.com/P6UnMPsR it gives /dev/ttyUSB0, /dev/ttyUSB1, /dev/ttyUSB3 instead of /dev/ttyUSB0, /dev/ttyUSB1, /dev/ttyUSB2
[12:04] <rpi84> KI7MT: if i have no chance try if cd rom is ok, anyway thanks, looks for HW error
[12:04] <MegaCat> .
[12:05] <KI7MT> rpi84, could be the disk media try different disk as k1l suggested, but the device looks like it's identified correctly..
[12:06] <KI7MT> oquidave, create persistant udev rules for the devices.
[12:06] <rpi84> KI7MI: already try cd, dvd and disk with ubuntu installation, what i used for thic pc ...always the same .. no disk
[12:07] <KI7MT> rpi84, from wehat you've show us, it looks to be configured and mounted correctly.
[12:07] <brodul> Is there an option to start ssh on the server iso and then isnstall ubuntu  via ssh.
[12:07] <brodul> ?
[12:08] <adsc> why do you want an ubuntu server in the first place?
[12:10] <rpi84> KI7MT: i was changing discs ongoing, almost everytime when i get NO DISC message .. really i try more variations
[12:11] <adsc> brodul: this might be relevant: http://askubuntu.com/questions/155847/how-to-install-ubuntu-12-04-via-ssh
[12:12] <brodul> adsc tnx
[12:13] <KI7MT> brodul, It's not simple, but I do it for several USB devices. They are called persistent udev-rules .. you can find examples in /etc/udev/rules.d
[12:15] <brodul> All I have is a NIC
[12:15] <KI7MT> brodul, Example: KERNEL=="ttyUSB*",ATTRS{modalias}=="usb:v0403pB810d0500dc00dsc00dp00icFFiscFFipFF”,
[12:15] <KI7MT> ATTRS{bInterfaceNumber}=="00",SYMLINK+="USB-Mouse"
[12:15] <brodul> so I can run the image in my VirtualBox to "blindly" move along and start ssh and ipv6 link local
[12:16] <KI7MT> brodul, SRI i been sending infor to you by mistake, appologies.
[12:19] <neuro_sys> http://www.cykurtz.org/spare/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/field/image/ubuntu.png?itok=K6vI8dHZ
[12:23] <mayo> hello
[12:23] <mayo> Is there android development channel?
[12:26] <adsc> yep, #android-dev
[12:29] <xevwork> I'm creating a preseed file for Ubuntu Server. When it runs my preseed/late-command, the UI shows a progress bar at 21% with the message "Running preseed..." - is there any way to affect the percentage shown there so that users don't think the preseed has frozen?
[12:31] <JuJuBee> Anybody willing to help me with a find command using sed?  http://pastebin.com/6uxTi0G7
[12:31] <krypto> hi how can i install 32 bit packages in 64bit ubuntu 12.04
[12:31] <JuJuBee> The command is not working and I cannot figure out what is missing argument for -exec...
[12:32] <JuJuBee> krypto: need to install ia32-libs
[12:32] <node111> who knows any tools in linux like wirelessmon in Windows?
[12:33] <MoonUnit`> aircrack-ng?
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> krypto: just install them as usual, the multiarch ability in your OS will pull in the deps (may be a lot)
[12:33] <KI7MT> xevwork, I don't think so, unless you write your own wrapper script with a progress indicator, but you could ask the ubuntu-server folks, they may have better guidance.
[12:33] <HiddenKnowledge> Hi! Does anyone here know where to get 'apt' in ubuntu? (Not apt-get)
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> JuJuBee: whereare you getting ia32-libs from?
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> !info apt
[12:34] <JuJuBee> ActionParsnip: repo
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> HiddenKnowledge: its in the replos
[12:34] <HiddenKnowledge> That's apt-get..
[12:34] <HiddenKnowledge> I mean the java one.
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> !info ia32-libs | JuJuBee
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> !info ia32-libs raring | JuJuBee
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> !info ia32-libs precise | JuJuBee
[12:34] <node111> aircrack-ng cant show signal's quality, i want to know dbM etc.
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> JuJuBee: where are you getting ia32-libs from?
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> node111: iwlist does, if memory serves
[12:35] <MoonUnit`> node111, kismet is the only other tool i know of
[12:36] <qumquot> What's a good DNS I can run on a linux virtual machine?
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> qumquot: dnsmasq
[12:36] <JuJuBee> ActionParsnip: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs (ubuntu 12.10)
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> qumquot: bind
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> JuJuBee: ubottu showed its not in the repos anymore
[12:37] <JuJuBee> ActionParsnip: ->  ia32-libs is already the newest version.
[12:37] <qumquot> cheers
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> JuJuBee: strange, its showing in packages.ubuntu.com
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> JuJuBee: my mistake
[12:37] <JuJuBee> ActionParsnip: no worries
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> JuJuBee: maybe ubottu needs to run:  sudo apt-get update ;)
[12:38] <JuJuBee> lol
[12:38] <HiddenKnowledge> !info apt eclipse
[12:38] <HiddenKnowledge> Woops
[12:38] <HiddenKnowledge> !info apt precise
[12:38] <HiddenKnowledge> No, not that one >__<
[12:40] <star_prone> for the unity environment, ubuntu is using unity3d, as in http://unity3d.com/
[12:40] <star_prone> ?
[12:40] <Pessimist> star_prone, lol, no
[12:41] <node111> i have tried # iwlist wlan0 scan, but i dont know why all ssid's quality are same.
[12:42] <the_drow_> Does anyone know a nice tool that sets my wallpapers to a random one from the web?
[12:43] <jellow> node111: I presume you've tried airodump-ng
[12:43] <xevwork> In the Ubuntu Server installer, is dialog or whiptail drawing the windows?
[12:44] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:44] <qumquot> What format is a network adapter ID in?
[12:44] <charisma> hey guys
[12:44] <charisma> new user here
[12:45] <KI7MT> xevwork, some of both, whiptail is Debian mostly, Dialog is for things like Tasksel
[12:45] <KI7MT> They both do the same thing, ncurses gui's in xterm.
[12:46] <xevwork> KI7MT: I see. I'm trying to provide feedback during my preseed/late_command script so the user doesn't think it's frozen. Is there a wrapper for the curses GUI like the in-target and apt-install wrappers?
[12:47] <alumno_> llvv
[12:47] <alumno_> dknfkdv
[12:47] <alumno_> you will die
[12:47] <MegaCat> Hi there, just testing my IRC client. Can someone just answer this message?
[12:48] <MegaCat> no?
[12:48] <KI7MT> xevwork, the progress indicator in both are really useless, unless you code (wrap) it properly, most likely a simple Bash or Perl script.
[12:48] <xevwork> :D Hi there, MegaCat
[12:48] <xevwork> KI7MT: That's my plan. I just can't find a whiptail or dialog binary in the installer.
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> MegaCat: yes we see you
[12:49] <AndreasL> Hey guys. How can I force a specific LightDM session from the command-line (ssh session)? I tried dm-tool, but it complained that it wasn't running within a desktop manager
[12:49] <MegaCat> Hi! I'm using X-chat. How do I answer you xevwork?
[12:49] <alumno_> PUTA
[12:49] <MegaCat> So that you understand that I'm talking to you.
[12:49] <LjL> alumno_: please stop
[12:49] <KI7MT> xevwork, cant find it in the installer code or cant fine the packages?
[12:50] <alumno_> NO
[12:50] <alumno_> SHUT THE FUCK UP
[12:50] <LjL> !ops | alumno_
[12:50] <alumno_> !
[12:50] <xevwork> MegaCat: You just did, but it can help to start a line by typing a few characters of the user you want to talk to and hit tab. Most clients will highlight lines starting with your own nick, so it makes it easier for people to notice that you're speaking to them.
[12:51] <MegaCat> xevwork, So this is an answer to you then?
[12:51] <Malsasa> Hello, is asking about Qt packaging problem in Ubuntu polite here?
[12:51] <KI7MT> xevwork, if your referrign to the Alt-Installer, that't Whiptail until yo get to the additional options,  then that is Dialog.
[12:52] <gordonjcp> KI7MT: 73 de MM0YEQ
[12:52] <alumno_> putaputaputaputaputa
[12:52] <MegaCat> xevwork,  When answer me it's like MegaCat:
[12:52] <n1ckn4m3> I'm face dwith some hurdles getting my Surface Pro 2 work well with Ubuntu
[12:52] <n1ckn4m3> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64811‎
[12:52] <xevwork> MegaCat: That's just because my IRC client does it differently. The colon vs the comma doesn't make a difference.
[12:52] <dscastro> hi guys
[12:52] <n1ckn4m3> problem is with the type cover 2, works fine during install but not at all on first boot
[12:52] <MegaCat> xevwork, Okey, thanks! :D
[12:53] <n1ckn4m3> any way to make ubuntu use the reduced HID drivers that it uses during install?
[12:53] <star_prone> I have a problem with vmware on ubuntu 13.10
[12:53] <xevwork> MegaCat: You may have to configure Xchat to automatically highlight. I use Quassel, so I'm not sure about Xchat.
[12:53] <dscastro> i'm facing ubuntu crashes on xenserver
[12:53] <ubunbo> hello
[12:53] <ubunbo> 有人在么
[12:53] <dscastro> it's about spinlock.c, do you know what is it?
[12:54] <glitsj16> Malsasa: sure you can ask here, but #ubuntu-packaging has people who deal with that on a daily basis
[12:54] <lenovo> hi
[12:54] <xevwork> KI7MT: Yeah the part I'm looking at now seems to be a dialog window. However, there's no dialog binary in the installer environment. It must all be done with libraries?
[12:54] <star_prone> when I open it, it says that some modules have to be installed in the kernel, and then when it starts, it doesn't list the virtual machines anymore
[12:54] <Malsasa> glitsj16: oh, thank you for pointing me.
[12:54] <k1l> !cn | ubunbo
[12:54] <dscastro> glitsj16: thaknks
[12:54] <dscastro> *thanks
[12:54] <MegaCat> xevwork, When we are talking our conversion is highlighter automatically (red). BTW why are you using Quassel, I mean like features and stuff?
[12:55] <KI7MT> xevwork, I'm not sure. I have it installed on my laptop let me look.
[12:55] <xevwork> MegaCat: I use Quassel because it's QT-based and I use KDE, so it integrates a bit better with my desktop environment.
[12:56] <MegaCat> xevwork, Okey, thanks! :D
[12:56] <MegaCat> xevwork,  BB
[12:56] <KI7MT> xevwork, it's a binary, /usr/bin/dialog .. maybe Whiptail is used throughout and they just used the dialig.rc for coloring, but there almost identical in coding.
[12:57] <xevwork> KI7MT: That's not present in the install environment for me. I'm booted in the Ubuntu Server (12.04.3) installer on the second terminal.
[12:58] <KI7MT> xevwork, Whiptail is also installed in Ubuntu by default, so if you want Dialog specifically, have to install it after.
[12:58] <Wise> using lubuntu lxkeymap gives me index out of range error how do I change to swedish keyboard in the OS from terminal?
[12:58] <teju> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6588719/
[13:01] <xevwork> KI7MT: Thanks. I was looking for it in the install image, but just realized that if I'm running a late_command during a preseed, I'll have the in-target command available and I can run whiptail that way. Thanks a lot!
[13:02] <KI7MT> xevwork, I dont have a server-install CD handy, but Im pretty sure the install uses Whiptail for all the user interaction / input items.
[13:03] <xevwork> KI7MT: It does, which is why I'm perplexed. 'find -name whiptail' turns up nothing.
[13:03] <Rory> KI7MT: isn't it /bin/whiptail ?
[13:03] <muchdoge> how do I get hlep?
[13:03] <muchdoge> help
[13:03] <muchdoge> ?
[13:03] <xevwork> Rory: Nope.
[13:04] <KI7MT> xevwork, I think so on the install CD that would make sense.
[13:04] <Ben64> muchdoge: you'd need to ask
[13:04] <Rory> !ask | muchdoge
[13:04] <Rory> !details | muchdoge
[13:04] <xevwork> KI7MT, Rory: Boot the Ubuntu Server ISO in a VM, got to the second terminal and start searching. If you can find it, I'll totally high-five you.
[13:04] <Silmarilion> when I install a program wich has installer.run will I be able later to remove it with apt?
[13:04] <xevwork> s/got/go/
[13:04] <Rory> xevwork: cannot find it with "find / -name whiptail" ?
[13:05] <Rory> Silmarilion: No
[13:05] <xevwork> Rory: Only the files that have been installed in /target
[13:05] <lutfi> how to install photoshop in ubuntu 12.04?
[13:05] <Rory> !wine | lutfi
[13:06] <Silmarilion> I thought so.. This is bad because most of the packages in comunnity are out of date...
[13:06] <muchdoge> Just installed Ubuntu 13.10, first time using ubuntu. My tower has a Nvidia card on the board, and I have a AMD HD6770 plugged into the pci-e slot. Ubuntu doesn't seem to be able to see the AMD card, and when I try to install drivers they don't detect it. What do I do?
[13:06] <Rory> Silmarilion: what app are you trying to install
[13:07] <Madkiss> I am trying to install Ubuntu 13.10 on a Lenovo X121e. TTBOMK, that notebook doesn't support EFI or UEFI.
[13:07] <Ben64> !away > Thor|Away
[13:07] <Madkiss> Yet, the installer tries to create an "EFI BOOT" partition and tries to mount something to /boot/efi afterwards
[13:07] <xevwork> Hm. All the whiptail output I try to create in a late_command is probably going to be captured to the log instead of displayed on the terminal.
[13:07] <Silmarilion> the usual for programming netbeans, eclipse, lampp (xampp) etc...
[13:07] <KI7MT> xevwork, binarys are probably in the compressed image, and you'd have to extract it to see what all is there, not on the CD wehre the apps are housed.
[13:08] <Rory> Silmarilion: The repositories are there for a reason. You might find Ubuntu 13.10 has newer versions than 12.04
[13:08] <Rory> muchdoge: Can you see possible drivers to install in the Additional Drivers tab of the Software Sources program?
[13:08] <muchdoge> Rory: only for the Nvidia
[13:08] <xevwork> KI7MT: I'm in the terminal during install, which means I'm inside that compressed image.
[13:08] <sda> hi all, I would like to be able to connect to my desktop with another device (another desktop, laptop, tablet) and be able to choose what resolution use, and be able to connect multiple user at the same time. VNC is not good for do that, any idea?
[13:08] <Rory> muchdoge: Can you show me the output of the command: lspci -v
[13:09] <Rory> Please paste the full output onto http://paste.ubuntu.com and share the URL in this channel
[13:09] <xevwork> KI7MT: Booted into it. Not just mounting the ISO...
[13:09] <VillainZz> hi
[13:09] <muchdoge> yes....hold on....I just type that exactly into terminal right?
[13:09] <VillainZz> test
[13:09] <KI7MT> xevwork, I'll have to dig on that one a bit. Maybe in the ramfs or something ?
[13:09] <xevwork> KI7MT: This is all moot anyway, since I realized that all late_command output gets captured to the install log. So, whiptail won't display on the screen.
[13:10] <Rory> muchdoge: you can do this to make it easier: "sudo apt-get -y install pastebinit; lspci -v | pastebinit"
[13:10] <Rory> muchdoge: that will give you a URL to give me
[13:10] <Malsasa> Hello, I am packaging my Qt app on Precise. I create the single executable with Qt Creator and package it using dpkg --build. But lintian says just single error: unstripped-binary-or-object. I have ggogling for that and read Debian Packaging Guide, but I can't figure out how to solve this. It seems .deb packages on many KDE packages (yes, Qt too) doesn't have this type of error. Any suggestion for me? Thank you.
[13:11] <KI7MT> xevwork, ok .. yeah, you'd have to be able to redirect IO for the progress indicator to work.
[13:12] <muchdoge> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6588749/
[13:12] <Rory> !who | muchdoge in future
[13:12] <muchdoge> ah, sorry rory! how do you do that vertical slash?
[13:12] <Rory> muchdoge: the same way you did it to get that URL
[13:13] <muchdoge> er Rory:how do you do that vertical slash.
[13:13] <KI7MT> Ok, time to cash out,  catch u later
[13:13] <muchdoge> I just did a copy paste
[13:13] <Rory> muchdoge: it's pipe, shift + the-key-to-the-left-of-z
[13:13] <xevwork> KI7MT: Thanks for brainstorming with me.
[13:13] <Romance> i have installed JRE 1.7 but my firefox say no JRE is found, how do i fix this?
[13:13] <muchdoge> Rory: Thanks! I hope you can help me!
[13:13] <Rory> muchdoge: Is the PCI slot enabled in your BIOS?
[13:13] <Malsasa> Romance: sure, have you installed icedtea plugin?
[13:14] <muchdoge> Rory: I dont know how to find out on this OS.
[13:14] <Rory> muchdoge: It's not an OS thing, it's in your BIOS
[13:14] <Rory> muchdoge: I ask because Ubuntu does not see it at all
[13:14] <Romance> Malsasa: icedtea is bundled with openJDK right? i uninstalled openJDK
[13:14] <Rory> muchdoge: So it either isn't plugged in or it's disabled in the BIOS somehow
[13:14] <muchdoge> well....lets say its not...how do I turn it on?
[13:14] <Romance> eh
[13:14] <muchdoge> its deffenitely plugged in...I get video thru it.
[13:15] <KI7MT> short answer, ldconfig
[13:15] <Malsasa> Romance: install it separately. Search by Synaptic.
[13:15] <Rory> muchdoge: You plug your monitor into the graphics card, or the port on the motherboard?
[13:15] <muchdoge> Rory:its def plugged in, so I know its working.
[13:15] <Romance> Malsasa: ok thanks i will check on it
[13:15] <muchdoge> Rory: I can plug into ether, and both work.
[13:16] <Rory> muchdoge: Do you know the model of your motherboard?
[13:16] <muchdoge> :Rory er.....negative Capitan.
[13:17] <Rory> muchdoge: Did you build the PC yourself? Or is it pre-built, if so what's the model of the PC?
[13:18] <Rory> muchdoge: Is Ubuntu the first OS you've ever had on this PC, or do you also have Windows?
[13:19] <muchdoge> Rory: I had windows before
[13:19] <muchdoge> Rory: also, most of it is an 2 year old E-machine....im trying to find the original case to tell you what model.
[13:19] <Rory> muchdoge: What did you say the AMD pci-e card was?
[13:20] <muchdoge> Hd 6770
[13:20] <VillainZz1> "/join#ubuntu"
[13:20] <muchdoge> :Rory HD 6770
[13:22] <Rory> I mean... I don't know what to say. It's not a driver thing, ubuntu simply does not see that device at all, exactly as if it wasn't plugged in. is your monitor connected to the video output on the graphics card, or the video output on the motherboard?
[13:22] <muchdoge> Right now, mother board. I can restart it and use the AMD if you think that will make a difference.
[13:23] <Rory> Yes, and while you're restarting, go into your BIOS and double-check the PCI-E slots are enabled and at 16x speed
[13:23] <muchdoge> how do I do that with Ubuntu?
[13:23] <Rory> muchdoge: it's not an Ubuntu thing
[13:23] <muchdoge> windows is no longer installed
[13:23] <Rory> muchdoge: it's before any OS boots, you press a hotkey to access a menu
[13:23] <Rory> It's not a Windows thing
[13:23] <Malsasa> My problem (Qt packaging) just SOLVED by using command: strip --strip-unneeded EXECUTABLENAME. Lintian says no error. Thank you.
[13:23] <muchdoge> Rory, ah, what key would that be?
[13:23] <Rory> muchdoge: I don't know what it will be on your system, but it's usually F2 or Del
[13:24] <muchdoge> got ya.
[13:24] <muchdoge> ok ill be back!
[13:24] <Rory> OK gl
[13:24] <muchdoge> ty so much!
[13:24] <muchdoge> I do you use BTC?
[13:24] <Rory> LTC
[13:42] <chverma79> !hh
[13:42] <chverma79> can anybody read me
[13:42] <chverma79> hello
[13:42] <Pici> yes, hello
[13:43] <Rory> muchdoge never came back. Some say he's trying to find his BIOS hotkey to this day
[13:44] <zomGreg-m> The legend grows
[13:46] <Abhijit> how to install rails 4 on ubuntu 12.04
[13:47] <gordonjcp> Abhijit: have you tried typing that phrase verbatim into Google?
[13:47] <snql> http://google.com/?q=how to install rails 4 on ubuntu 12.04
[13:48] <Rory> Abhijit: https://www.google.co.uk/#q=how+to+install+rails+4+on+ubuntu+12.04
[13:49] <Rory> I know "google it" isn't really recommended but...
[13:51] <iptable> Abhijit tried this PPA? Not sure which v it will give you. https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-on-rails/+archive/ppa
[13:54] <Abhijit> gordonjcp, snq Rory i tried searching. but i ddnt use googe. so the another search engine ddnt gave me all those results. and the one with rvm was ignored by me. actually i was in the shock on not having rails 4 in default repo. but thanks anyway. iptable i wil look into it.
[13:54] <Wise> using lubuntu lxkeymap gives me index out of range error how do I change to swedish keyboard in the OS from terminal?
[13:57] <imghost> !rails
[13:57] <paws> what is a good tool to track network traffic in an organization?
[13:58] <Abhijit> paws, netstat and vnstat
[13:59] <paws> Abhijit: i am looking for something like mrtg but that can track all the computers in my network
[13:59] <Rory> paws: It needs to be something you install on the gateway
[14:00] <paws> agh there is no tool that i can install on everyone's computer and send the stats to my server?
[14:00] <Rory> paws: Oh I see
[14:01] <Rory> paws: Yes you can use something like Nagios
[14:01] <paws> okay
[14:01] <paws> i will look into it
[14:04] <Abhijit> paws, search for "auditd" and "monit"
[14:07] <kenetik> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20636282/stuck-at-grub-rescue-after-trying-to-install-centos
[14:07] <Rory> kenetik: you accidentally joined #ubuntu, this is the Ubuntu support channel
[14:08] <kenetik> Rory: Did you happened to read the post? The server is running Ubuntu.
[14:09] <Rory> kenetik: Not any more, you installed Centos instead
[14:09] <Rory> kenetik: Yes I read the post: "After successfully initiating the CentOS installation..."
[14:09] <kenetik> I run Ubuntu on my home computer, laptop and most of my servers. I've helped people in this channel before, wasn't expecting to have to deal with a smart ass. If you don't want to help, don't.
[14:09] <Rory> kenetik: You have 50% of a centos install, and 0% of an ubuntu install
[14:10] <Rory> kenetik: It's nto that I dont want to help, it's that #centos is the right place to get it
[14:10] <kenetik> Rory: Great, preciate the assistance. You've been so much help.
[14:10] <Rory> !attitude
[14:10] <kenetik> Ok
[14:10] <Rory> ignored
[14:14] <paws> Rory: does nagios have to sit on the gateway?
[14:16] <Rory> paws: No, nagios server can sit on any server
[14:16] <Rory> It is possibly overkill, take a look at Abhijit's suggestion above. Nagios is a complete monitoring tool, bandwidth is just a part of it
[14:16] <paws> this is kind of what i am looking for
[14:17] <paws> i looked up Abhijit's tools too.. but nagios is kind of what i was looking for, except i dont understand how it will pull stats from other computers
[14:17] <Pici> nagios/icinga doesn't have any sort of computer detection mechanisms built in either.  You would need to define each computer manually.
[14:18] <Rory> correct paws. if you want it to just automatically monitor traffic on the network without ant client-side configuration you will need to look into something for the gateway
[14:18] <paws> okay
[14:18] <paws> let me read over their manuals
[14:19] <paws> thanx a lot Rory & Pici :)
[14:19] <Rory> paws: you will need to install an nrpe client on each machine and configure it with a plugin to report bandwidth. that's why I mentioned it might be overkill
[14:19] <Rory> paws: It's sort of enterprise-level
[14:22] <Pbwizkid> Hello all
[14:23] <flavienn> Hello there
[14:50] <Aikar> Hi - I just got a SLI setup, trying to run triple head (Friend sold me his build really cheap, couldnt pass it up). I'm having trouble enabling xinerama. I can get the login screen fine, but logging in hangs with black screen and mouse cursor. Starting X from TTY does same and last line printed is loading extension NV-CONTROL. Ive even tried using the nvidia-331 drivers, and modified Xorg.conf to have SLI=On and MultiGPU=On too, same problem
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> Aikar  in ubuntu?
[15:01] <Aikar> MonkeyDust: yes.
[15:03] <Aikar> MonkeyDust: have you seen this problem before?
[15:04] <MonkeyDust> Aikar  no, i had to look up what sli is
[15:05] <coolmouse> i can't open i cann't open http://wiki.meego.com/ARM#OMAP4
[15:05] <coolmouse> why?
[15:05] <coolmouse> i am in china
[15:05] <helmut_> hi
[15:06] <compdoc> coolmouse:   The requested URL could not be retrieved
[15:07] <compdoc> http://wiki.meego.com/ is not a working website
[15:07] <coolmouse> thank you
[15:07] <imghost> coolmouse, may be its busy right now try reloading
[15:07] <geirha> coolmouse: wiki.meego.com doesn't exist, perhaps you typoed it?
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> coolmouse  try meego.wikia.com
[15:08] <imghost> coolmouse, try https://meego.com/community/wiki-0
[15:09] <frog_> http://imgur.com/pB2HLhV: this message i get when i try to open a big (17000x1912pixels) jpg panorama made with hugin. What am i doing wrong?
[15:10] <peyam> The user bar i ubuntu is way to big
[15:10] <le_neko> i supposed it doesn't fit in ram
[15:11] <peyam> where the close, minimize buttob is
[15:11] <frog_> le_neko: ive got 16GB
[15:12] <peyam> frog_, what is the issue?
[15:13] <frog_> peyam: http://imgur.com/pB2HLhV: this message i get when i try to open a big (17000x1912pixels) jpg panorama made with hugin. What am i doing wrong?
[15:13] <Aikar> though I am currently running ubuntu 13.04 because I cant upgrade :/ I get a "could not calculate upgrade" error. would 13.10 have any real chance at improving xinerama?
[15:14] <peyam> frog_, i suck at this
[15:14] <peyam> Aikar, you have recently install a program?
[15:15] <Aikar> peyam: no, my issue is that i have a new system, but Xinerama fails. I was running twinview before, but now that wont work since each monitor is on a different GPU
[15:16] <flavienn> peyem: right click your desktop and select change desktop background and select the behaviour tab and it has options to auto hide the launcher and to scale it if thats what you were talking about.
[15:16] <Aikar> and twinview only works on same GPU
[15:16] <dondopa> Does anyone uses Google calendar? how do I make an event repeat every two months on any day?
[15:16] <dondopa> It is currently set to"Every 2 months on the fourth Sunday"
[15:17] <dondopa> Couldnt it fall ona day like monday,tuesday etc.
[15:17] <Aikar> really wondering if i should just try to disable 2 of the cards and try to use the one card only that has 2 dvi and 1 hdmi, but i dunno if all 3 cables will fit
[15:17] <dondopa> Why does it repeat on every sunday
[15:17] <Aikar> but then id have 2 beastly cards unused
[15:18] <flavienn> How many displays? my video card only does 2 at once :( lol
[15:18] <Aikar> 3, maybe more later >_>
[15:18] <Aikar> the fact I can run like 8 is interesting haha
[15:18] <JStalin> I must admit that 13.10 is giving me serious headaches. I'm using it on three machines (home, work, and my wifes computer) but its definitely less stable that 13.04 was. Often freezes, errors during startup, things not working. Thankfully I haven't updated my mothers machine to 13.10 yet, and I guess I won't until 14.04..., just wanted to share :P
[15:18] <flavienn> what kind of cards?
[15:19] <Aikar> .. lemme preface that I bought this from a friend, and he used the oddball as a dedicated physx card, but 2x 595 GTX and 1x 480 GTX
[15:19] <peyam> JStalin, welcome to the club. that's why im waiting for 14.04 why sont u use debian
[15:19] <Aikar> so, 5 GPU's
[15:19] <Aikar> this system def qualifies for "Gibson" title
[15:20] <Aikar> he spent 6k building it
[15:20] <Aikar> (and I told him not to)
[15:20] <JStalin> and another error :P
[15:21] <phunyguy> JStalin, you may lost updates for a few months if you wait.  IIRC support for 13.04 is only 9 months.
[15:21] <phunyguy> lose*
[15:21] <flavienn> Ahh lol ya makes sense now i have a measly gtx 570.
[15:21] <JStalin> phunyguy: but I still will be able to upgrade to 14.04 later, right?
[15:22] <phunyguy> JStalin, I doubt it
[15:22] <phunyguy> although I have been wrong before
[15:23] <phunyguy> JStalin, you may be able to upgrade to 14.04 early... but the path would be 13.04 -> 13.10 -> 14.04 I think
[15:23] <phunyguy> I am not sure how long it will take then to cut off the upgrade path
[15:23] <JStalin> payam: and debian, well I got used to stable systems (since winXP) , I don't like the idea of moving everything all the time, and even if I could do it for my machines, I don't want to reinstall everything for my women :P
[15:24] <JStalin> phunyguy: so I guess my mother will receive another Christmas gift :P
[15:24] <phunyguy> JStalin, 12.04 works well if you want stability, and that has 5 years
[15:24] <MonkeyDust> 12.04 <3
[15:24] <JStalin> phunyguy: thats why I'm waiting 14.04
[15:25] <JStalin> its also LTR afaik
[15:25] <phunyguy> LTS*, and yes
[15:25] <JStalin> right
[15:25] <phunyguy> regular releases aren't designed to skip releases anymore
[15:25] <phunyguy> They give you a few months to upgrade, and that's it.
[15:27] <JStalin> anyway its still more stable than windows7 on similar machine, I mean friend at work, have to restart his system few times a week, whole system crashing on my ubuntu is extremely rare
[15:28] <phunyguy> I have a super stable Xubuntu 13.10 laptop, and Ubuntu 12.04 desktop.  No complaints here.
[15:28] <phunyguy> 12.04 server is rock solid and never dies.
[15:28]  * kenetik agrees with phunyguy 
[15:30] <codepython777> does anyone know of a good web based ssh shell? I am looking for putty's web dual?
[15:30] <Aikar> so does anyone have any ideas about Xinerama being enabled in nvidia driver (304, 313, 331 all the same), freezing on loading NV-CONTROL ?
[15:31] <codepython777> I'd like to ssh from the browser to my ubuntu box
[15:31] <Aikar> codepython777: why web?
[15:31] <codepython777> Aikar: I can use it from my tablets? I can use the same look and feel from anywhere? I want it html5/css based.
[15:32] <Vi|lan> Im trying to run ubuntun on my sony laptop it has 8400 GS gpu and it installs fine boots to login screen/ welcome screen looks great but when i login scren starts flickeriing and its not readable
[15:34] <jhutchins> codepython777: There are ssh clients available for Android.
[15:34] <jhutchins> codepython777: I have juiceSSH on my phone.
[15:35] <kenetik> juiceSSH is awesome <3
[15:35] <Superdawg> +1 for juiceSSH
[15:35] <kenetik> I've got a 'widget' on my homescreen for my dedicated servers, direct access, boom. <3
[15:36] <AlecTaylor> hi
[15:36] <kenetik> AlecTaylor: HI!
[15:36] <mike-irssi> jhutchins: terminal emulator too right?
[15:36] <AlecTaylor> I installed some KDE stuff by mistake, so I removed it. Now my login screen is all white (but still functional). How do I revert back to the Ubuntu one?
[15:38] <ariel_17> AlecTaylor: try to reset lightdm as default window manager. Check this http://askubuntu.com/questions/58023/how-can-i-make-lightdm-the-default-display-manager
[15:41] <AlecTaylor> Thanks ariel_17
[15:50] <Moore> hi
[15:51] <Moore> hello floodbot3
[16:08] <Anarhist> why is 13.10 the most unstable version so far? my computer cannot boot with less than 2 errors, and thunderbird just starts crashing every so often (something with libxul library)
[16:08] <Guest46896> ll
[16:08] <Anarhist> does reporting bugs actually help? mine normally get unanswered for a few years, and then closed as 'won't fix'
[16:09] <lirakis> hey all
[16:09] <lirakis> I know that the keybinding changed in 13.10 for vertical window movment, and i have changed my keyboard shortcuts to be the same as they used to be
[16:09] <lirakis> however I am also experiencing a strange issue in terminal
[16:10] <lirakis> the default shortcut for new tab (ctrl+shift+t) works intermittently
[16:10] <lirakis> so much so that I have changed it to ctrl+t
[16:10] <lirakis> which seems to have no issue
[16:10] <lirakis> i would prefer it be the standard ctrl+shift+t
[16:10] <imghost> Anarhist, unstable word is not good, i think 13.10 comes with latest kernel and latest kernel means better hardware support
[16:11] <lirakis> does any one have any information on why this keybinding is having issues ?
[16:11] <imghost> lirakis, !pastebinit | lirakis
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> lirakis  ctrl alt t works fine here
[16:11] <imghost>  !pastebinit | lirakis
[16:11] <lirakis> no no - not control alt t
[16:12] <lirakis> MonkeyDust, once I am in the terminal, ctrl + shift + t intermitantly works to create a new tab
[16:12] <lirakis> imghost, ... im confused, what am I supposed to pastebin?
[16:12] <Anarhist> imghost, but should i continue reporting bugs? is it even relevant any longer?
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> lirakis  works fine here
[16:13] <imghost> Anarhist, you should report the bugs :)
[16:13] <lirakis> MonkeyDust, like i said, it works intermittently for me, some times it works great, then it will just stop and not start working again
[16:13] <imghost> lirakis, now its working? ctrl + alt+t?
[16:14] <lirakis> imghost, that was never the issue
[16:14] <Anarhist> imghost, i'll keep bombarding the void wit them then
[16:14] <lirakis> imghost, i can open a terminal with ctrl+alt+t
[16:14] <lirakis> imghost, creating a new tab within a terminal is flakey
[16:14] <imghost> lirakis, under terminal
[16:14] <lirakis> imghost, aka  ctrl+shift+t  seems to work fine for a while, then it will just stop working
[16:16] <imghost> lirakis, ok, Anarhist, good luck and if the bug is realy serious then most probably it will get fixed, just report it at luanchpad.net
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> lirakis  i think it will not have a high priority
[16:18] <imghost> MonkeyDust, agreed seems like no one will even try to solve it :D
[16:18] <lirakis> im just wondering if anyone else has experienced this on 13.10 because i know there have been other keybinding issues such as the vertical window movement
[16:19] <lirakis> i wasnt sure if there were some other gnome changes that made things behave strangely
[16:20] <mabvuto> whoop
[16:25] <Gr1m> Does anyone know how to copy python modules/packages installed using apt ?
[16:25]  * Nohboard is now in ubuntu installation screen.
[16:25] <lirakis> ok then ...
[16:25] <lirakis> not very helpful
[16:27] <Nohboard> the Screen reader dude is reading everything without stopping o_o',how to shut him up?i'm in ubuntu installation screen
[16:27] <Nohboard> even repushing on 'Screen Reader' can't make it
[16:29] <MonkeyDust> Nohboard  ctrl alt F1 > ps x orca > kill pid
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> Nohboard  or use a terminal, enter 'ps x orca' (without quotes), then kill the pid
[16:34] <gvikaskc> can any one help here on installing printers?
[16:36] <holyguyver> Could someone please tell me if there is a libre font similar to diploma or olde english? I already checked on google with no luck in getting an answer.
[16:38] <asshat> @gvikaskc what is the problem installing printers?
[16:39] <holyguyver> Are there any libre fonts similar to these http://www.dafont.com/theme.php?cat=401 ?
[16:39] <gvikaskc> @asshat i successfully installed canon lbp2900B..but everytime i restart the pc, i have to remove and register the printer
[16:40] <asshat> @gvikaskc are you using default drivers?
[16:41] <gvikaskc> yes downloaded from canon website
[16:41] <holyguyver> Where can I find a list of the fonts included by default in Ubuntu?
[16:41] <asshat> @gvikasck try this guide and get back to us
[16:41] <asshat> http://askubuntu.com/questions/232645/how-to-install-canon-lbp2900-printer-in-ubuntu-12-10
[16:41] <gvikaskc> @asshat: followed the procedure mentioned on ubuntu forum...i.e. installed both the packages and registered the printer...printer works fine
[16:42] <holyguyver> !Ubottu, you are my only hope
[16:42] <asshat> @gvikasck but it does nto stay registered on reboot?
[16:42] <gvikaskc> @asshat: problem arises when i restart the system..it shows two printers and none prints...i have to remove printers from system settings
[16:42] <holyguyver> !fonts
[16:43] <gvikaskc> @asshat: it stays there...but doesnt print... i have to remove and add
[16:43] <holyguyver> Am I invisible?
[16:43] <asshat> @gvikasck try reboting then do the ccpd start command
[16:43] <Aikar> Hi - I just got a SLI setup, trying to run triple head (Friend sold me his build really cheap, couldnt pass it up). I'm having trouble enabling xinerama. I can get the login screen fine, but logging in hangs with black screen and mouse cursor. Starting X from TTY does same and last line printed is loading extension NV-CONTROL. Ive even tried using the nvidia-331 drivers, and modified Xorg.conf to have SLI=On and MultiGPU=On too, same problem
[16:44] <gvikaskc> ok
[16:44] <asshat> @gvikasck if that works then add it on startup
[16:44] <holyguyver> Apparently everyone in here is an asshat
[16:44] <asshat> asshat is a helpful guy
[16:44] <holyguyver> asshat: You haven't helped me yet ;)
[16:45] <asshat> holyguyver: what's your problem?
[16:45] <xevwork> Does preseeding RAID work? It seems like I've tried a dozen suggestions from the web, but nothing works. It keeps making swap partitions that I'm not asking it to make!
[16:45] <holyguyver> Where can I find a list of the fonts included by default in Ubuntu?
[16:45] <holyguyver> Are there any libre fonts similar to these http://www.dafont.com/theme.php?cat=401 ?
[16:45] <holyguyver> Could someone please tell me if there is a libre font similar to diploma or olde english? I already checked on google with no luck in getting an answer.
[16:45] <OerHeks> holyguyver, ubottu gave you an url to the ubuntu fonts
[16:45] <Rory> !patience | holyguyver
[16:46] <holyguyver> OerHeks: No ubottu gave me a link to the official ubuntu font
[16:46] <asshat> holyguyver: i'm not sure what fonts there are exactally but you can add fonts to libre office pretty easily
[16:46] <Rory> holyguyver: The Google Web Fonts perhaps
[16:47] <asshat> holyguyver: add fonts from any font website to /user/share/fonts
[16:47] <JoshuaP> is there something i can do to blacklist tor connections?
[16:47] <asshat> holyguyver: restart libreoffice and they will show up
[16:47] <holyguyver> asshat: Rory : I am not looking for fonts for me, I am looking for what fonts I can use in css that everyone will be able to see on their systems
[16:47] <Rory> holyguyver: Then use Google Web Fonts that's exactly what they're for
[16:47] <Rory> holyguyver: http://www.google.com/fonts
[16:48] <asshat> holyguyver: then you're looking in the wrong place, you're looking for general css fonts not ubuntu fonts
[16:48] <Rory> holyguyver: Were you aware this is the Ubuntu support channel?
[16:48] <asshat> joshuap: are you trying to blacklist all tor connections or just some/a specific ones?
[16:48] <JoshuaP> all, please
[16:48] <holyguyver> asshat: Rory : I figure libre fonts would be on all systems
[16:49] <Rory> holyguyver: People can only see fonts they have installed, or that you embed. The Google Fonts site allows you to embed the fonts and they are licensed for that
[16:49] <holyguyver> asshat: Rory : also I wanted to make sure ubuntu users could see my website as I intended it to look
[16:49] <asshat> joshuap: you can use ufw to do it
[16:49] <asshat> holyguyver: fonts wont be an issue
[16:50] <holyguyver> Rory: Thank you
[16:50] <JoshuaP> asshat: sorry for asking this, but could you explain it as if i was a noob?
[16:51] <Rory> JoshuaP: Are you running a server?
[16:51] <JoshuaP> Rory: yes
[16:51] <MonkeyDust> JoshuaP  #ubuntu-server
[16:52] <JoshuaP> ...
[16:52] <Rory> JoshuaP: You need to find a list of TOR exit nodes, and add firewall rules to block these IPs
[16:52] <Rory> With respect, you ought to know how to do that if you are considering running a server
[16:53] <JoshuaP> Rory: you're probably right, but yolo :P
[16:53] <Rory> JoshuaP: Why do you want to blck all tor connections? what sort of server is it?
[16:54] <JoshuaP> Rory: eh, whatever me and my partner decide to run on it :P
[16:54] <JoshuaP> primarily we have an irc server right now, but im picky about the proxy connections
[16:55] <cortexA9> hello
[16:55] <cortexA9> i need support
[16:55] <cortexA9> for install ubuntu
[16:55] <nxfrx> hi im new to ubuntu
[16:55] <k1l> !details | cortexA9
[16:55] <fwl731> how to use fcrackzip to crack zip file with brute force attack
[16:55] <fwl731> any help
[16:55] <fwl731> ???
[16:55] <nxfrx> how can i change the locale to english
[16:56] <nxfrx> ??
[16:56] <cortexA9> how to install in dual boot with windows ?
[16:56] <bazhang> !locale | nxfrx
[16:57] <k1l> !dualboot  | cortexA9
[16:57] <bazhang> cortexA9, uefi system?
[16:57] <cortexA9> bazhang no
[16:57] <nxfrx> ok it dint work
[16:57] <bazhang> nxfrx, what "didn't work"
[16:57] <k1l> cortexA9: as sum up: shrink the windows with the windows disk utility and choose the free space in the ubuntu installer
[16:57] <nxfrx> how else can i change system language via console
[16:58] <bazhang> nxfrx, did you read the link
[16:58] <cortexA9> k1l can i use wubi ?
[16:58] <nxfrx> yes i did
[16:58] <AndChat399636> Does the server iso have unity gui?
[16:58] <bazhang> !work | nxfrx
[16:58] <nxfrx> i read alot of websites
[16:58] <bazhang> AndChat399636, no gui with server
[16:58] <xevwork> AndChat399636: Ubuntu server does not have a GUI by default. You can install any GUI that you want, though.
[16:59] <dtcrshr> cortexA9: I wouldnt go on wubi if I were you
[16:59] <cortexA9> because i tried with wubi
[16:59] <nxfrx> well ill get back with details
[16:59] <brendan`> anyone know if its possible to install 13.04's imagemagick on 12.04?
[16:59] <cortexA9> and doesnt work.
[16:59] <nxfrx> maybe pastebin them
[16:59] <k1l> not with wubi :/
[16:59] <nxfrx> k baz
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> AndChat399636: the server install is pure CLI. If you want a desktop OS, Install the desktop ISO
[16:59] <nxfrx> thnkz
[16:59] <AndChat399636> Thank you
[16:59] <AndChat399636> I actually don't want gui
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> AndChat399636: or if you dislike Unity, install Xubuntu, Kubuntu or Lubuntu and you will get a different default sessioj
[17:00] <cortexA9> so there is not a good installer for windows ?
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> AndChat399636: then server is great, or ubuntu minimal
[17:01] <DLC> brendan`: You can compile imagemagick from source. This is useful in case you need support for 16-bit images for example
[17:01] <k1l> cortexA9: what is wrong with the way i explained?
[17:01] <Agent86> Hi all
[17:01] <cortexA9> k1l: because i dont know if i can shrink..
[17:01] <AndChat399636> Thank you action
[17:01] <brendan`> DLC, but the package install won't work?
[17:01] <dtcrshr> AndChat399636: and if you pretend to run any games at all, ditch unity
[17:01] <otak> Is icedtea the recommended java plugin?
[17:01] <k1l> cortexA9: if you cant shrink you cant install. thats it. you need at least one partition
[17:02] <DLC> brendan`: sorry, i mixed it up with libgraphicsmagic
[17:02] <AndChat399636> I don't use unity
[17:02] <brendan`> np, im inquiring about imagemagick package
[17:04] <jhutchins> brendan`: Generally it's a bad idea to mix releases.  You get into problems with different versions of dependencies being required, and if package names change between releases you can end up with a real mess.
[17:04] <xevwork> cortexA9: It is possible to shrink your Windows partition with tools like Parted Magic. Judging by your questions, it seems like you're at risk of breaking your Windows installation by attempting to install a dual-boot setup. I suggest you install VirtualBox and create a Linux virtual machine in order to get started learning Linux.
[17:04] <cortexA9> ok k1l done
[17:04] <cortexA9> 500 GB k1l
[17:04] <cortexA9> for ubuntu
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> xevwork  yes, always backup first, if you start changing partitions
[17:05] <cortexA9> i don't shrink a windows partition.
[17:05] <cortexA9> but another..
[17:05] <MonkeyDust> i use windows in vbox
[17:05] <brendan`> yeah, im not in favor of it
[17:05] <jhutchins> cortexA9: Linux installers have supported shrinking a Windows partition and installing to a new partition on the same drive with dual-boot since the 1990s.
[17:06] <k1l> cortexA9: choose that for ubuntu (best is to make on extended partition and put one partition for / one for /home and one swap if you want swap, into that.)
[17:07] <jhutchins> k1l: There is no reason to prefer an extended partition, and for a new user it's usually best to have a single linux partition so you don't run out of space where you actually need it.
[17:07] <imghost> cortexA9, always keep a live cd or usb as a backup on physical device:)
[17:07] <fwl731> guys how to use fcrackzip to crack password protected zip file with brute-force method
[17:07] <fwl731> need help
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> cortexA9: or resize in Windows, which I find favourable.
[17:07] <cortexA9> so there is not a good win installer right ?
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> cortexA9: wubi is a try before you buy, not a long term solution
[17:08] <k1l> jhutchins: you never know how much primary he already got there.
[17:08] <OerHeks> fwl731, this channel does not support cracking, thanks.
[17:08] <k1l> cortexA9: there is a excellent installer. just like you would install windows.
[17:08] <jhutchins> cortexA9: The Linux installers have worked well enough that there has been little reason to develop an installer that runs under windows.  Just boot to the installer instaed.
[17:08] <fwl731> okk
[17:09] <jhutchins> cortexA9: Installing to a windows filesystem has some serious compromises and is usually not a good solution.
[17:09] <cortexA9> so
[17:09] <cortexA9> better to do a DVD right ?
[17:09] <k1l> cortexA9: take a usb-stick
[17:09] <jhutchins> cortexA9: A CD with netinstall is a good way to go, that way you only download what you actually use.
[17:10] <jhutchins> cortexA9: usb works well too.
[17:10] <imghost> cortexA9,just fyi linux use ext4, windows ntfs so keep that in mind when ever you doing partition
[17:11] <cortexA9> ok thanks
[17:11] <cortexA9> downloading ubuntu right now
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> cortexA9: either is fine, the DVD just hasd more apps available on the install media
[17:13] <imghost> cortexA9, read the installing instructions from the ubuntu website and then proceed :)
[17:14] <Aikar> has nouveau gotten to the point of direct rendering yet?
[17:17] <csst0111> a few days ago wireless zyxel G-202 was working. I just changed to wired connection the last days and now I'm trying to connect wireless but doesn't seems to work. Can't find the adapter.
[17:18] <csst0111> I'm using 12.04
[17:18] <LiENUS> anyone use the hangouts plugin with chromium on ubuntu?
[17:18] <Rory> LiENUS: Ask your real question
[17:19] <LiENUS> ok
[17:19] <LiENUS> how do i get the hangouts window to appear?
[17:19] <LiENUS> Rory, its quite vague unless you use a specific combination
[17:19] <Rory> Did you install the plugin deb?
[17:19] <LiENUS> if you alt+tab to the desktop
[17:19] <LiENUS> the hangouts window disappears
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> csst0111: what wifi chip does it use?
[17:21] <csst0111> ActionParsnip, how can I check it ?
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> csst0111: sudo lshw -C network
[17:23] <csst0111> ActionParsnip, I just got the Ethernet interface :(
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> csst0111: is it a USB device?
[17:24] <csst0111> yes
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> csst0111: then run:  lsusb   and use the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[17:25] <csst0111> doesn't appears with lsusb ...
[17:25] <deletedsteve> Does anyone know much about EXT2/3/4 and UNDELETEing files? I have some questions about what is possible and what is not.
[17:26] <bazhang> !undelete | deletedsteve
[17:27] <pepper_chico> hello guys, anyone has a link for how to build mesa and load it instead of the system default? I'm running ubuntu 13.10 (just upgraded from 13.04), I'm also using xorg-edgers PPA, I'm trying to run Metro Last Light on my macbook pro with an intel hd 3000, I've seen this game runs on this graphics, but on windows, and by now, even with the current xorg-edgers I was unable to make it run, so, I'd like to try building my on mesa and
[17:27] <pepper_chico>  see
[17:27] <pepper_chico> never done that, but I
[17:27] <pepper_chico> know git and stuff, programmer here
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> csst0111: is it plugged in?
[17:27] <csst0111> yes it is
[17:28] <jhutchins> csst0111: If lsusb doesn't see it it's probably a hardware problem.  It should at least see an unidentified device.
[17:29] <jhutchins> csst0111: Try different ports, check dmesg after every plug/unplug event.
[17:30] <csst0111> jhutchins, dmesg gives me "hub 1-1:1.0: unable to enumerate usb device on port 1"
[17:32] <pepper_chico> hello guys, anyone has a link for how to build mesa and load it instead of the system default? I'm running ubuntu 13.10 (just upgraded from 13.04), I'm also using xorg-edgers PPA, I'm trying to run Metro Last Light on my macbook pro with an intel hd 3000, I've seen this game runs on this graphics, but on windows, and by now, even with the current xorg-edgers I was unable to make it run, so, I'd like to try building my on mesa
[17:32] <pepper_chico> and see
[17:32] <pepper_chico> never done that, but I know git and stuff
[17:32] <pepper_chico> s/on mesa/own mesa/
[17:35] <Ubuntu_Problem> hello i dont know if im correct here but i have  a big problem with ubuntu 13.10
[17:35] <DLC> Hello mr Ballmer
[17:35] <Ubuntu_Problem> ubunti have started to delete programms and libs self and i dont know why, after 2 reboots i have now a complete black screen with mouse only
[17:36] <Ubuntu_Problem> *ubuntu
[17:38] <Shadowslasher> Any on here successfully add wicd tray icon in Ubuntu 13.10?
[17:39] <Ubuntu_Problem> i want know why my ubuntu started to delete libs and programms self up to blackscreen and mouse only
[17:39] <Shadowslasher> Any here use wicd network manager?
[17:40] <notebook> hello
[17:40] <AvengerLives> hello
[17:40] <k1l> Ubuntu_Problem: ubuntu will not destroy itself.
[17:40] <notebook> was just trying the connection through proxy
[17:40] <notebook> i have a question
[17:41] <AvengerLives> Ubuntu_Problem: care to be more specific? What was the last user action?
[17:41] <Shadowslasher> Me too
[17:41] <Shadowslasher> Installed wicd on Ubuntu 13.10 unity 7.1.2
[17:41] <notebook> how to start torrent downloading in ubuntu under any torrent client via proxy connection
[17:41] <Shadowslasher> Tray icon missing
[17:42] <notebook> the port 6881 seems to be blocked by our college admins
[17:42] <AvengerLives> Shadowslasher: did you manually edit <Desktop> entry?
[17:42] <notebook> while in windows it works fine
[17:42] <Nohboard> doh..i got a sys errors in ubuntu when updating the software
[17:42] <Shadowslasher> You mean gsettings desktop?
[17:43] <Nohboard> may changing the updating server, e.g USA's solve it?
[17:43] <imghost> notebook, thats depends on the  torrent client configurations only
[17:43] <Shadowslasher> Avengerlives: gsettings?
[17:43] <Nohboard> and omg..I'm getting 100% cpu usage i guess
[17:43] <AvengerLives> Shadowslasher: no i mean the config file
[17:44] <Shadowslasher> Hmm no where is it usually located?
[17:44] <Ubuntu_Problem> i have install only a music station and had also problems before with the new nvidia grafic driver 331 and have blacklistet nou...(i dont know the compete name). but the last action was the music station (like fl studio and called audore ore something)
[17:44] <AvengerLives> Shadowslasher: yeah, gimme a sec
[17:44] <Shadowslasher> No problem thanks
[17:44] <pepper_chico> Shadowslasher, have you tried this app? https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/saucy/alacarte/
[17:45] <pepper_chico> I've used it to remove icons from top bar successfully
[17:45] <imghost> !alacarte
[17:45] <Shadowslasher> Nope
[17:45] <pepper_chico> you can edit and stuff
[17:45] <pepper_chico> too
[17:45] <Shadowslasher> Hmm let me check it out
[17:45] <imghost> !info alacarte
[17:46] <Ubuntu_Problem> first the softwarecenter was deleted, than rhythmbox, than gskg (i tthink thats thename and beeso ?) and than after restart the complete desktop and after 2. reboot black screen and mouse only
[17:46] <AvengerLives> Shadowslasher: /usr/share/applications
[17:46] <deletedsteve> Ok, so.... I know Undelete on EXT3/4 does work... sort of. My question is is it possible to recover files without the journal?
[17:46] <xtriz> anyone has any idea, that i have an wireless mouse but i don't have bluetooth for it, can any bluetooth device i buy from the market will support that mouse /
[17:46] <xtriz> ?
[17:46] <asshat> xtriz: what's the mouse?
[17:46] <AvengerLives> create a .desktop file there, set proper permissions, search for the app in unity and drag to your unity bar
[17:46] <xtriz> it's an wireless mouse
[17:47] <AvengerLives> Shadowslasher: explanation here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[17:47] <xtriz> but i have lost it's bluetooth device that came along with it
[17:47] <asshat> xtriz: then probably not, but what is the model of the mouse
[17:47] <imghost> !testdisk | deletedsteve
[17:47] <deletedsteve> ok.... how about this.... Where is the journal actually stored? (part of the hdd, i had a drive with 3 partitions, grub/user/swap)
[17:48] <imghost> !info testdisk
[17:48] <xtriz> it's amkette optimum wireless mouse that's what written on it
[17:48] <Shadowslasher> Thanks avenger
[17:49] <AvengerLives> np man
[17:49] <asshat> xtriz: no, you will have to buy a replacement reciever, reprogram a different reciever, or a new mouse
[17:49] <pepper_chico> hello guys, anyone has a link for how to build mesa and load it instead of the system default? I'm running ubuntu 13.10 (just upgraded from 13.04), I'm also using xorg-edgers PPA, I'm trying to run Metro Last Light on my macbook pro with an intel hd 3000, I've seen this game runs on this graphics, but on windows, and by now, even with the current xorg-edgers I was unable to make it run, so, I'd like to try building my own mesa
[17:49] <pepper_chico> third call, and last
[17:49] <deletedsteve> ok... so.... no one seems to know where the journal is stored, how about how "deep" it goes before being over-written? Months? Days? 100 file entries?
[17:50] <pepper_chico> then I'll close this damned xchat
[17:50] <xtriz> asshat, ok thakns for the info
[17:50] <Ubuntu_Problem> give it a way to recover any? i dont want make ll new because i use also windows encrypted and have ubuntu encrypted and than i need to decrypt windows, make all manuual again etc
[17:51] <deletedsteve> now I remember why I hate IRC so much
[17:51] <imghost> deletedsteve, did you try to recover the data with "testdisk"
[17:51] <deletedsteve> img: I don't have the drive anymore. I'm asking for theory
[17:52] <k1l> deletedsteve: your issue is not in any way trivial
[17:52] <deletedsteve> ak1l: I don't want a solution per se, I want to know how possible it COULD be to recover my data
[17:52] <deletedsteve> I want to take zero action.
[17:53] <k1l> deletedsteve: so i would recomment to make zero drama out of it
[17:53] <deletedsteve> I had files on that my ubuntu PC, i deleted them, then for 3 years ONLY booted up to run XBMC off of my network... how possible could it be to receover those files?
[17:53] <mike-irssi> deletedsteve: i dumped 1tb accidentally and recovered all but probably 10gb
[17:53] <imghost> deletedsteve, theory says that whenever you run a live cd or usb then you can use preinstalled parted so first you have to check whether your all hard drives are mounted or not? if mounted then unmount first then mount that hdd  from which you want to recover files
[17:54] <deletedsteve> mike: but that was quickly recovered right?
[17:54] <mike-irssi> deletedsteve: within minutes
[17:55] <jhutchins> deletedsteve: Are you trying to find out how to recover files, or to find out if someone else could recover them from your drive?
[17:55] <deletedsteve> jhutchins: exactly
[17:55] <jhutchins> deletedsteve: Exactly what?
[17:55] <mike-irssi> deletedsteve: it will kind of toss the scraps in a pile and then you can look at it and figure out you need to dump the programs or hat have you from that
[17:56] <mike-irssi> *what
[17:56] <deletedsteve> I'm trying to figure out if someone could recover my files, I sold that PC and didn't get a chance to wipe it entirely, only go to wipe 150gb off the top of the drive
[17:56] <jhutchins> deletedsteve: Given sufficient motivation, yes they could be recoverd.
[17:57] <imghost> deletedsteve, recovery of files can be possible to some extent when there is no over write
[17:57] <mike-irssi> deletedsteve: truecrypt
[17:57] <k1l> deletedsteve: i suggest you better talk about that in the offtopic channel #ubuntu-offtopic since we dont have an actual support issue with it.
[17:57] <jhutchins> deletedsteve: Even a DOD wipe is not 100% guaranteed to make them unrecoverable.  We generally require a DOD wipe plus physical destruction.
[17:57] <deletedsteve> img: that's what I'm wondering about. If the journal is equired or not to receover
[17:58] <deletedsteve> jhutch: yea, I'll need to look someday how a  drive that's been wiped could still be recoverable, never understood that. like the bits could have a memory
[18:00] <jhutchins> deletedsteve: See PM for some references, this is not on topic for this channel.
[18:00] <deletedsteve> Ok... so I put 100gb on my ubuntu box. Deleted it. Spent 3 years running XBMC off of network files. Fsck ran every 2-3 months, I did one big update once, formated the drive to NTFS and wiped 150gb off the top...... Chance of someone recovering my files (work and taxes).... seems pretty minimal
[18:01] <gordonjcp> deletedsteve: testdisk/photorec maybe
[18:01] <asshat> deletedsteeve: just do dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX a couple of times and unless they are ridiculously determined they can't get anying off of it
[18:01] <urielvigilant> What it is the easyest way to install Lubuntu on Asus eepc and wich version ?
[18:02] <asshat> urielvigilant: use a usb stick
[18:02] <deletedsteve> drive is gone, I can do no more wiping. If that weren't the case I'd take a 12ga slug to the drive.
[18:02] <gordonjcp> deletedsteve: seems excessive
[18:03] <gordonjcp> deletedsteve: a single pass of /dev/zero is enough to utterly destroy the data on any drive beyond all hope of recovery
[18:03] <urielvigilant> asshat :  some people say i will find problems installing lubuntu 12.04 in machines with less the 4 gb or with 4gb ram
[18:03] <asshat> deletedsteeve: it was in ext3 or 4 as i understand it and then you formatted it to ntfs and wiped some
[18:03] <urielvigilant> ops 4 gb harddrive like eepc
[18:03] <asshat> deletedsteeve: you're good
[18:03] <cyberputz> i sledged a hard drive once.
[18:03] <cyberputz> it wasnt my drive.
[18:03] <deletedsteve> asshat: you think?
[18:03] <asshat> urielvigilant: you can install with even 2gb of ram and have a decent install, are you talking about hdd space?
[18:04] <deletedsteve> I'd really like to be able to logically reduce my axiety about this'
[18:04] <cyberputz> we had a big degaussing coil at a hospital where i worked.
[18:04] <asshat> deletedsteve: yeah, someone is more likley to dig through your trash and piece together bits of paper to get info
[18:04] <cyberputz> that sure nuked the everliving daylights out of them.
[18:04] <deletedsteve> asshat: sold the whole PC after partially wiping to a kid who said he'd try and make it a hackintosh
[18:05] <cyberputz> iirc the drives werent ever even usable again
[18:05] <gordonjcp> deletedsteve: I don't even bother wiping drives any more
[18:05] <cyberputz> :D
[18:05] <asshat> deletedsteeve: it's probably gone but even if it's not people looking for that sort of info will see that it's an ntfs drive and look for something with that fieltype, if your data was in ext3/4 the they wont know to look there
[18:05] <gordonjcp> deletedsteve: I just chuck 'em in the mixed metals pile at work
[18:05] <deletedsteve> gave me concern that he's not dummy. I never told him it even had EXT3/Linux so he's have to be REALLY good
[18:05] <asshat> deletedsteve: you're good
[18:06] <deletedsteve> I just seem to have worked myyslef up into a mess thinking about the extreme tiny possibility of this kid getting my work files
[18:06] <deletedsteve> Asshat: thanks, that helps
[18:06] <asshat> deletedsteve: np, next time use lvm disk encyption
[18:07] <deletedsteve> next time..... No joke. 12ga slugs.
[18:07] <deletedsteve> I'll never sell a hdd again
[18:07] <asshat> use disk encryption anyway just in case it gets stolen or broken into
[18:08] <ClientAlive> I need to know the dpkg command to get redmine/debconf configuration launched again. I thought I had copied it to the clipboard but it wasn't there when I went to the command line.
[18:09] <asshat> dpkg --reconfigure
[18:10] <Aikar> Hi - I just got a SLI setup, trying to run triple head (Friend sold me his build really cheap, couldnt pass it up). I'm having trouble enabling xinerama. I can get the login screen fine, but logging in hangs with black screen and mouse cursor. Starting X from TTY does same and last line printed is loading extension NV-CONTROL. Ive even tried using the nvidia-331 drivers, and modified Xorg.conf to have SLI=On and MultiGPU=On too, same problem
[18:10] <gordonjcp> deletedsteve: handy hint - no-one except you gives the tiniest amount of a toss about your work files
[18:10] <gordonjcp> deletedsteve: I'm sure this is a crushing blow to your ego, but I hope it sets your sense of paranoia at rest
[18:11] <asshat> gordonjcp: but i'd be looking for all sorts of funny pictures in there
[18:11] <ClientAlive> asshat:
[18:11] <ClientAlive>  dpkg --reconfigure
[18:11] <ClientAlive> dpkg: error: unknown option --reconfigure
[18:11] <mike-irssi> first thing they're going to do is wipe it to reclaim the maximum ammount of space
[18:11] <cyberputz> speak for yourself, i photorec all hard drives and flash media i find in the garbage :)
[18:11] <asshat> cleintalive: you have to specify a package
[18:11] <cyberputz> love people's nude tumblr selfies
[18:12] <cyberputz> O.o
[18:12] <asshat> well this support chat turned weird real quick
[18:12] <cyberputz> oh, errr.
[18:12]  * cyberputz behaves.
[18:12] <Madkiss> that escalated quickly.
[18:13] <cyberputz> sorry, thought i was chatting in ##systemadmins, its a little looser.
[18:13] <cyberputz> heh
[18:13] <asshat> madkiss: your mom escalated quickly! I'll kill you in your sleep
[18:13] <hawa> can sbd figure out wat this error is caused by??? i tried to install redshift and compile from tar.bz2... it gives error: \n "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" the config.log file is here: http://pastebin.com/L8BDfjdC
[18:13] <shmup> trying to recall what may have changed from this morning, when i first booted up at work, till now. 13.10, Gnome 3.10, boots to login. after i log in, screen goes black with blinking orange cursor.
[18:14] <asshat> shmup what does the console show?
[18:14] <Madkiss> asshat: I can live with that.
[18:14] <asshat> madkiss: i'm sorry, that was uncalled for
[18:14] <kcj> Hello. I'm having trouble updating. Even if I try to select another download server it just tells me to check my internet connection. Could anyone help me with this?
[18:15] <shmup> asshat: console as in the console with blinking cursor? or a TTY i switch to?
[18:15] <ClientAlive> asshat:
[18:15] <ClientAlive> ~$ sudo dpkg --reconfigure redmine
[18:15] <ClientAlive> dpkg: error: unknown option --reconfigure
[18:15] <Madkiss> asshat: haha. I mastered OpenStack, and you're trying to make me afraid? Srsly? ;)
[18:15] <asshat> shmup: ctrl+alt+f6 i believe
[18:15] <Beldar> shmup, Try a nomodeset boot or a failsafe x from grub recovery and check the graphic drivers, are you using proprietary graphics?
[18:16] <shmup> yes, i am using the 319 nvidia proprietary drivers, Beldar
[18:16] <asshat> clientalive: sudo dpkg --purge redmine
[18:16] <asshat> clienalive: then install again
[18:16] <shmup> i've had issues with switching ttys on this os x keyboard.
[18:16] <shmup> Beldar: i will try that, one moment
[18:17] <Beldar> shmup, From the ubuntu repos or nvidia, or a ppa, sometimes a kernel upgrade will cause this problem, you can try an earlier kernel from the grub boot.
[18:18] <mike-irssi> shmup: function key
[18:19] <ClientAlive> I may not be asking for the right thing or was unclear. I was in the process of a redmine install from the official ubuntu repo. I was in the second step where you are to select which database to use. I selected mysql, was told (by debconf I think) that it is not installed and to install redmine-mysql. I want to use mysql not sqlite. I saw there was the command I am to use to relaunch the setup/configuration listed at the bottom of the screen,
[18:19] <ClientAlive> tried to copy it to the clipboard but it didn't, closed the window, ran sudo apt-get install redmine-mysql. Now I don't know what command that was to get the thing launched again.
[18:20] <hawa> can sbd help me install redshift from tarball???
[18:20] <ClientAlive> asshat: "--purge"  <-  I think not
[18:21] <Beldar> !find redshift
[18:21] <Beldar> hawa, Hace you looked in the repos?
[18:21] <bazhang> hawa, redshift is in the repos, isntall from there
[18:21] <Beldar> have*
[18:21] <bazhang> install
[18:22] <urielvigilant> i dont want to install that DEbian because i have zero experience on it, then my friend wil come to me to ask for help to handle it on begining. Please tell me can i follow exactly this instructions for Ubuntu same has on Lubuntu ? http://gobitech.blogspot.pt/2011/06/install-ubuntu-1104-on-asus-eee-pc-701.html
[18:22] <hawa> Beldar, for some reason the update from repo doesnt work... i mean i cannot update from apt-get...
[18:22] <Beldar> hawa, Update meaning a specific release?
[18:23] <hawa> Beldar, "W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/jonls/redshift-ppa/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[18:23] <hawa> "
[18:24] <asshat> clientalive: you don't want to edit the config files manually? have you tried sudo dpkg redmine --reconfigure?
[18:24] <Beldar> hawa,  that is a ppa, it is in the regular repos, and you did not answer the question.
[18:25] <asshat> or it might be redmine-mysql --reconfigure
[18:25] <OerHeks> hawa, that ppa is old, up to Natty. , use ppa purge to remove it and use redshift from the repos
[18:25] <shmup> now, hm. booting with nomodeset doesn't seem to matter. i add it, ctrl+x, goes to gnome login (like always), and after logging in: black screen, orange blinking cursor
[18:25] <ClientAlive> asshat: same output from that command
[18:26] <hawa> OerHeks, sure...
[18:26] <asshat> did you get the mysql clinet package?
[18:26] <hawa> Beldar, i dint get the question... sorry..
[18:27] <jil> hello
[18:27] <Beldar> hawa, that ppa stops at natty always check the ppa for releases covered and recognize ppa's are not supported or generally suggested here. https://launchpad.net/~jonls/+archive/redshift-ppa
[18:27] <jil> I'm using Ubuntu LTS.  How can I remove a half install package?
[18:27] <asshat> clientalive: sorry, real job calls
[18:28] <jil> I tryed dpkg -P php5-xcache but I get an error #127..
[18:28] <Beldar> jil, This a broken package situation?
[18:28] <hawa> Beldar, tnx...
[18:28] <jil> I tryed installing the dependencies but same.
[18:28] <Beldar> !ppa-purge | hawa best way to remove a ppa
[18:29] <jil> I tryed resintalling the package but cry about a depency..
[18:29] <ST0RMHAWK> Could anybody give me a command that would remove all "-" and "_" from all filenames in all subdirectories in 1 specific directory?
[18:29] <jil> yep, that sounds clear.. thanks
[18:29] <Beldar> shmup, You try a previous kernel from grub?
[18:29] <Beldar> shmup, Use nicks here if you are addressing another.
[18:30] <jil> stormy98_:  how about rename 's/-//' * ; and $rename 's/_//' *;
[18:30] <shmup> Beldar: you know what, i did not. i do have two versions, and i should hilight nicks. sorry. trying older kernel now.
[18:30] <jil> sory that message for ST0RMHAWK
[18:30] <ClientAlive> asshat: np
[18:30] <Beldar> shmup, Cool, I suspect that kernel will work, proprietaries generally don't follow a kernel upgrade.
[18:31] <ST0RMHAWK> would that work for all subdirectories though?
[18:31] <mike-irssi> ClientAlive: what about sudo dpkg-reconfigure redmine
[18:34] <mike-irssi> or is that just the same command
[18:34] <shmup> Beldar: okay so here's all i know: two diff kernals, and i've tried both with and without nomodeset, and it always results in Gnome login, logging in, black screen with blinking cursor.
[18:34] <killer> hi
[18:35] <D3M0NCR0W> hi killer
[18:35] <killer> hey
[18:36] <Beldar> shmup, Not sure than my self you might look up a a compiz unity reset for your exact release if you are running unity and have tweaked the desktop.
[18:36] <Nohboard> doh..couldn't finish the software update however i retried that
[18:36] <Beldar> shmup, You using the gnome shell? Is it a ppa version if so?
[18:37] <shmup> Beldar: yeah, using ppa gnome shell
[18:37] <ClientAlive> mike-irssi: brings up a gui but I've gotten that before and it isn't the one. What I had was not a terminal based window but a window of it's own with the system theme. It was a a step to configure the database for use with redmine; and, from past experience, it would have then asked for the admin database password, then created a redmine database for redmine with that database program (mysql in my case). From there idk, never gotten past that
[18:37] <Beldar> shmup, Probably the problem, you can ppa-purge it.
[18:37] <shmup> Beldar: oh wait no i am using official gnome-shell, so when i said 3.10 did i lie?
[18:37] <shmup> Beldar: not sure what gnome official repos are using
[18:37] <ClientAlive> point.
[18:37] <ClientAlive> brb
[18:38] <Beldar> shmup, what ubuntu release are you running?
[18:39] <shmup> Beldar: 13.10  i was using 12.04 at work and almost wish i still was, hah
[18:41] <Beldar> shmup, gnome shell 3.10 has to be a ppa , I'm in 14.04 right now and the stock shel is 3.8
[18:42] <Clucker> im installing ubuntu on an external drive for the first time-- how should I format the drive if I want one partition ubuntu and one partition shared files with windows?
[18:42] <Beldar> shmup, I use the shell and honestly have found the ppa versions problematic, but that is only my experience.
[18:42] <Beldar> Clucker, gonna run slow on an external at best.
[18:42] <shmup> Beldar: okay so lets say i'm in a root shell, and wanted to purge the gnome3 team's ppa
[18:43] <Clucker> why is that?
[18:43] <shmup> Beldar: looking in sources.list.d i see gnome3-team-gnome3-saucy
[18:43] <Beldar> !ppa-purge | shmup
[18:44] <Beldar> shmup, use the purge follow the instructions.
[18:44] <pgar231> hello all, I am trying to install an older version (12.04) of ubuntu because the version installed (13.10) apparently does not support my wifi card. Ubuntu 13.10 is already installed, but now my laptop will not boot from the usb that has the live cd on it...any suggestions?
[18:45] <ezra-s> pgar231, do you get any errors or it simply starts ubuntu from the hdd right away?
[18:45] <Beldar> pgar231, You aware of the per-session boot menu outside the bios? You have checked the sum of the ISO, and know the usb boots?
[18:45] <sda> \Hi all! I would like to access my desktop from another device. I would also like to be able to choose the resolution at connection like RDP. Also I would like to be able to connect with different users. Do you have any Idea? VNC doesn't seems fit my need!
[18:46] <shmup> Beldar: after purging this, i'm not entirely sure if i'm thinking correctly: do i have to install gnome again?
[18:46] <pgar231> ezra-s:  no errors, just a blank black screen
[18:46] <pgar231> like it does not even try to read from usb drive
[18:46] <Beldar> shmup, Nope the stock shell should be there.
[18:46] <pgar231> but it prompts me do i want to install or try ubuntu w/o install
[18:47] <Beldar> !nomodeset | pgar231
[18:47] <pgar231> Beldar: where do I put that in? I tried entering that as per suggested by some1 previously but no luck
[18:47] <pgar231> I am entering it in....
[18:47] <Beldar> pgar231, The link shows you.
[18:48] <pgar231> doesnt tell you where
[18:48] <pgar231> I just checked it
[18:48] <Beldar> pgar231, Note I asked you two questions as well.
[18:48] <Beldar> pgar231, Yes it does look closer.
[18:48] <shmup> Beldar: well that was less than satisfying, hah. rebooted and same results.
[18:48] <Clucker> beldar, why would an external HD run ubuntu slow? It's just a 5400 rpm drive, usb 3
[18:48] <pgar231> Beldar:  you r not being helpful
[18:48] <pgar231> i said it does not give any error. blank black screen
[18:48] <pgar231> doesnt boot from the hdd
[18:49] <Beldar> shmup, Try the original options, I have to assume you ran the purge correctly, have you tried any other desktops installed if there are any?
[18:50] <Beldar> Clucker, usb 3 will run faster than usb 2 however not like an internal, and you did not mention usb 3 till now.
[18:50] <shmup> Beldar: yeah purge seemed to run correctly: ppa-purge ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3
[18:50] <shmup> Beldar: all right, i'll go over the original thoughts
[18:52] <Beldar> shmup, The older kernel may work now, you want the stock desktop anyway, and graphic drovers from the repos in general, others here are more up on what appears to be a graphic problem.
[18:53] <Beldar> pgar231, Really, I asked two pertinant questions you have not answered and gave you a standard response to a black screen.
[18:53] <pgar231> Beldar: So I have tried this usb on another laptop and it prompts me to install ubuntu and goes through the processes. So i know it is a working usb. When I try it on my laptop, it does not install ubuntu >> once I choose install it is a blank black screen. I tried entering "nomodeset" after "set gfxpayload=keep"
[18:54] <pgar231> Beldar: what are your two pertinant questions again, my apologies/
[18:54] <Beldar> pgar231, on a live setting it is f6 at the gui that says try, install or check memory then choose nomodeset.
[18:54] <pgar231> it does not even get that far
[18:54] <pgar231> i dont get the GUI annd opt to hit f6
[18:54] <pgar231> that is my point
[18:55] <Beldar> pgar231, How did you load the usb?
[18:55] <pgar231> unetbootin
[18:55] <pgar231> also downloaded the Live x64 iso from ubuntu
[18:55] <pgar231> no success on both
[18:55] <pgar231> but again, when I plug it into another laptop it loads and boots it from usb
[18:56] <pgar231> I used this same usb to install the 13.10 version
[18:56] <Beldar> pgar231, Ah, unetbootin skips that gui, you might try another loader, or find the tweak that gets it shown, and we are assuming still a nomodeset boot will get you in.
[18:56] <pgar231> gotcha
[18:56] <pgar231> thx man
[18:56] <pgar231> do you have a suggestion for another loader?
[18:57] <Beldar> pgar231, YOu in ubuntu to load it?
[18:57] <pgar231> Beldar: I can be in ubuntu if necessary, but I have my win8 up now
[18:58] <Beldar> pgar231, Use ubuntu and this multiloader. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[18:59] <Beldar> pgar231, There are usb loaders that work from windows that will show that first gui, I have W8 as well but this loader works well.
[18:59] <pgar231> Beldar: thx again
[18:59] <Beldar> no prob
[19:00] <shmup> Beldar: yeah i've tried ubuntu-desktop and same results, on both new/old kernel, both tried with nomodeset. curious, though.. if it was a graphics issue, driver issue, wouldn't nomodeset still get around that?
[19:00] <mike-irssi> i'm still wondering about "it gets to try or install" and then "it doesn't even get that far"
[19:01] <Beldar> shmup, Generally I would think so, have you done any tweaking to the desktop in general, themes, any other ppa's?
[19:01] <shmup> Beldar: numix theme and thats it i guess
[19:02] <pgar231> it got to try or install part, then when I choose either it is just a black screen...like it does not proceed to the GUI option to hit F6
[19:02] <pgar231> but I will try Beldar's suggested loader
[19:02] <shmup> Beldar: i wonder, when its just blinking on a black screen, is there an error being output somewhere, logged, something, that i can maybe read into?
[19:02] <mike-irssi> but what Beldar said was that before you choose either of those two options press f6
[19:02] <Beldar> shmup, Might be a problem, I don't really know, graphic stuff I have not had to really deal with, I have been just following channel norms on this.
[19:03] <Beldar> mike-irssi, unetbootin skips that first gui and goes to a secondary install gui.
[19:04] <jhutchins> shmup: Can you boot into rescue/single user mode?
[19:04] <shmup> jhutchins: yeah i can
[19:04] <jhutchins> shmup: nomodeset addresses one specific video problem, it's not a universal fix.
[19:04] <shmup> jhutchins: all right, yeah, i can boot into recovery and get into a root shell if you have any suggestions
[19:05] <Beldar> jhutchins, Thanks for looking at this.
[19:05] <jhutchins> shmup: /var/log/Xorg.0.log has a lot of "noise" in it, but you might find something there.
[19:05] <Clucker> so i'm installing 13.10 on an 1 TB external drive-- half will be NTFS and the other EXT4, does this sound right and how much space should I allocate to swap partition?
[19:05] <jhutchins> shmup: Can you just switch to a console with Ctrl-Alt-F1
[19:05] <koell> does someone work with shotwell? i have some problems importing my photos from a different folder on my desktop. shotwell always freezes on import so i've to kill it via terminal. got these error on terminal ""** (shotwell:14310): WARNING **: Couldn't connect to accessibility bus: Failed to connect to socket /tmp/dbus-VzAbRRQiEw""
[19:06] <Beldar> Clucker, For hibernate equal slightly larger than the ram for swap.
[19:06] <jhutchins> Clucker: 2x RAM up to 2G, 1X to 4G, stop at 4.
[19:06] <mike-irssi> Beldar: gotcha
[19:06] <jhutchins> Clucker: Unless you need suspend-to-ram, in which case you need at least 1x.
[19:06] <Clucker> I have 8
[19:06] <shmup> jhutchins: see no i can't and i was wondering why. i've always been able to at other workstations. this one has an osx keyboard, and i've tried ctrl+alt+f1, but then ctrl+alt+cmd+f1. nothing. not sure?
[19:07] <shmup> jhutchins: also Xorg.0.log is empty
[19:07] <Clucker> jhutchings: so if I have 8, go with 4?
[19:07] <jhutchins> shmup: Ok, it might be frozen at a different level.
[19:07] <jhutchins> shmup: Are there any other Xorg.* logs?
[19:07] <Clucker> jhutchins: so if I have 8, go with 4?
[19:07] <shmup> jhutchins: yes a .old one
[19:07] <jhutchins> Clucker: Yes, that should be plenty.
[19:08] <Clucker> thanks
[19:08] <jhutchins> shmup: Suggests that X is starting to load, writing a new file, then failing.
[19:09] <shmup> jhutchins: ah all right, i'm parsing log. lots of lines about contradicting itself at some resolution mode, then moving on, says it again at another resolution
[19:09] <shmup> jhutchins: i'll keep parsing
[19:09] <pgar231> Clucker: I would dedicate about 2 GB to swap
[19:10] <Clucker> pgar231: not 4? I'll be doing graphical stuff mostly, not sure how that relates
[19:11] <pgar231> Clucker:  you have a ton of space, so go ahead and make it 4 GB...but that partition can always be resized later too
[19:12] <jhutchins> Clucker: The theory is that managing more than 2G of swap space makes a system so unwieldy that it might as well just run out.
[19:12] <jhutchins> Clucker: Having a larger swap will also help with things that use tempfs.
[19:13] <Clucker> Ok 4 it is
[19:15] <shmup> jhutchins: all i'm seeing are issue related to EDID and resolution contradictions then log ends with a pile of reuse xkmfile lines
[19:15] <shmup> jhutchins: i wish i actually had something useful to say heh
[19:17] <shmup> jhutchins: i made a new user and it works
[19:17] <shmup> jhutchins: wtf does that mean, should i just deleted my Xorg config?
[19:18] <shmup> s/deleted/delete
[19:19] <mechtn> heya
[19:21] <LordNed> I installed the AMD Catalyst drivers and now when my Xubuntu machine boots, I get nothing but a black screen. I can SSH into the machine so I can do things to it, but I can't get any display. It looks like X doesn't start, and running "startx" returns: "xauth: timeout in locking authority file /home/mewtin/.XAuthority; X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting."
[19:22] <sabayonuser> shmup: that means 'sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf' dont worry, X11 has abilities to autoconfige if there is no xorg.conf :)
[19:23] <sabayonuser> LordNed: are you sure, your card is still supported?
[19:23] <LordNed> sabayonuser, It's a Radeon 7950, and I installed fglrx-updates fglrx-amdcccle-updates fglrx-updates-dev and rebooted and now I get no display :(
[19:24] <NuSuey>  how do I know that with the radeon drm I have the power management enabled correctly? in a previous distro, with the same kernel, I didnt hear the fans so loud. here they are constantly on full yet I have [    0.975962] [drm] radeon: power management initialized .. but why are the fans so loud :X
[19:26] <shmup> sabayonuser: and to not have a xorg.conf would mean?
[19:26] <sabayonuser> LordNed: have you tried to reconfigre your X-server?
[19:27] <hassen> Does the used software for making a ubuntu bootable usb stick affect the ubuntu OS after beeing installed? The thing here is that I installed before Ubuntu with LiveLinux app, but later had to remove the ubuntu partition,then i made a bootable ubuntu usb stick using YUMI,and after running the OS,i mentioned that many pieces of softwares were missing so i had to install them manually(this is the case of YUMI)
[19:27] <LordNed> sabayonuser, I've re-installed it, as well as run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. I looked in the X log, and there odesn't looke like anything wrong, it says it shut down succesfully
[19:27] <hassen> but with LiveLinux app,The OS was full with its features once i ran it
[19:27] <sabayonuser> NuSue: on what kernel are you now and what kernel did you have when your fan was quiet?
[19:28] <hassen> features like Launchpad/MPEG mp3 layer/etc were missing with the installed ubuntu via YUMI
[19:29] <shmup> sabayonuser: i only asked because i was missing one, so i ran nvidia-xconfig but i still don't understand how i didn't have one :P
[19:29] <sabayonuser> hassen: in theory that only effects the boot-up of the ubuntu stick. missing software is either intended by ubuntu or a bug...
[19:30] <sabayonuser> hassen: maybe its caused by the stick?
[19:30] <hassen> sabayonuser, it's the same stick used for both of the cases:YUMI and LiveLinux
[19:30] <ice9> odesk team application crashes when I start the minicam
[19:31] <sabayonuser> shmup: as i know nvidia is not using the xorg.conf, but the xong.conf.d
[19:31] <shmup> sabayonuser: heh :x thanks
[19:31] <lotuspsychje> im working on a 12.04 laptop that doesnt wanna shutdown, says failed to shutdown services
[19:31] <Calinou> sudo shutdown -h now?
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> Calinou: shutdown: time expected
[19:34] <shmup> i need an understanding in something, i suppose, because i fixed my problem and....
[19:34] <shmup> earlier today at work when booting up and typing "plank" to start it, i decided to add . plank to .profile
[19:35] <shmup> i guess i'm surprised that a mistake like that can't offer any output, but i bet there is a logical reason
[19:35] <shmup> not sure why i tried sourcing that heh :x
[19:36] <sabayonuser> hassen: to be honest i would suggest using pendrivelinux's UUI. but YUMI should be OK too. but MP3 is not installed by default due to its license as i know
[19:36] <wallzero> Greetings. I am trying to install the nvidia-cuda-toolkit. I am having a dependency issue with nvidia-opencl-dev and nvidia-libopencl1-331. How can I install nvidia-cuda-toolkit with the 331 drivers?
[19:36] <sabayonuser> shmup: congrats, that its working, always ask if you have questions ^_^
[19:38] <hassen> sabayonuser, anyway everything was incredibly perfect when installed the ubuntu from that LiveLinux app,
[19:38] <hassen> forgot wheter it's LiveLinux or LinuxLive
[19:38] <hassen> the name
[19:39] <mon> hi all. any way to check my system for hardware errors? i'm thinking something storage or network related is causing hickups and changing OS didn't seem to help
[19:39] <kdz> lo
[19:39] <kdz> can i ask a question ?
[19:39] <sw_> hi. how can I set up on my Ubuntu install that whenever some user logs in via SSH the history is cleared when they exit SSH? I want it to be for all users
[19:40] <HellTiger> hello. is there a software to turn a sim card reader into a fully working phone, or even a virutal android device?
[19:40] <sabayonuser> hassen: thats strange... but you should use what works for you i guess ^_^
[19:40] <kdz> so i loaded ubuntu from usb and chose the "try" option, if i update and upgrade and power down pc will it revert back to original ubuntu when i power up and choose try again ?
[19:41] <hassen> sabayonuser, that's too late,,just knew the difference after installed ubuntu :p
[19:41] <HellTiger> i think "try" means simply the live cd functionalty, all stuff is loaded into memory then, harddrive isnt changed or even needed kdz
[19:41] <kdz> HellTiger ah ok
[19:41] <kdz> damn,
[19:41] <kdz> wasted bandwidth
[19:41] <sabayonuser> mon: you may try iotop and nmon to look for the causes
[19:41] <HellTiger> anyway if any serious changes would be made, you will get a explicit warning message before, kdz
[19:42] <kdz> ok so i have to install it onto a hdd
[19:42] <mon> sabayonuser: i did. nothing sprang out but maybe i cant properly read it
[19:42] <kdz> hmmm
[19:42] <kdz> now to figure out how to dual boot, openelc and ubuntu
[19:42] <mon> sabayonuser: user added precesses are: sabnzbd, sickbeard, couchpotato and transmission
[19:42] <sn33zy__> is it just me or are we having server problems today?
[19:42] <mon> so a couple of python scripts mostly idling
[19:43] <k1l> sn33zy__:  freenode is very unstable last days
[19:43] <sabayonuser> kdz: that depends: if you enabled persistance, changes remain. if not, they dont
[19:44] <kdz> sabayonuser where can i enable persistance?
[19:44] <hassen> Is chromium the know google chrome,but rebuilt for linux/ubuntu or what? I didn't find google chrome in the software center,nor could I install it with terminal after downloading its .deb package
[19:45] <sabayonuser> mon: i would love to find what causes your hickups, but i pitty you cant tell in general...
[19:45] <k1l> hassen: chromium is the free part of chrome.
[19:45] <k1l> !chromium | hassen
[19:45] <mon> sabayonuser: no measury-kind of app which could stress-test or something?
[19:46] <mon> sabayonuser: i'd even consider a login for you if you'd like. i'm desparate :)
[19:46] <hassen> was confused about both of them
[19:46] <lotuspsychje> im working on a 12.04 laptop that doesnt wanna shutdown properly, any hints to force it? says failed to kill processes
[19:46] <sabayonuser> kdz: there are multiple ways to do this, depending on the OS in which you create the stick...
[19:47] <kdz> sabayonuser windows 7 and i used a program
[19:47] <xavierio07> short of compiling each component seperately, is there a way to get a more up to date LAMP package installed in 12.04 than the one currently available through apt-get
[19:47] <kdz> Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.5.1
[19:48] <sabayonuser> mon: never give your login away in an IRC ;P nmon and iotop pretty good monitors if you ask me ^_^ you might consider them...
[19:48] <sarsaeol> lotuspsychje: 'shutdown -h 0' doesnt work?
[19:48] <mllie> Hello
[19:48] <mllie> what is the best to be able to send mail from php? Which mailserver is easiest to install and configure?
[19:48] <xavierio07> I was considering XAMPP which seems to have more up to date versions of apache, mysql and php
[19:48] <k1l> !xampp | xavierio07
[19:49] <sabayonuser> kdz: when you use UUI from pendrivelinux.com you are able to enable persistence with a single klick. but keep in mind, that it really is for testing and uncomparable to a real installation ;)
[19:49] <xavierio07> so the short answer is nothing available other than whats in the repo... ok thanks
[19:49] <k1l> xavierio07: if you need some newer version of one file i would look out for a PPA
[19:49] <kdz> sabayonuser thanks!
[19:50] <lotuspsychje> sarsaeol: holdon lemme try
[19:50] <xavierio07> k1l: thanks I'll look into PPA's
[19:51] <mon> sabayonuser: i'll try that thanks
[19:51] <sabayonuser> kdz: not a problem ^_^ keep asking :)
[19:52] <sabayonuser> mon: i wish you good luck finding the misbehaving process ^_^
[19:52] <lotuspsychje> sarsaeol: same issue, FAIL in red (killing all remaining processes) and freezes
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> i tryed with acpi=off but same result
[19:55] <Clucker> I'm about to install 13.10 on my external HD, I have a primary drive and swap partition, what mount point do I use for the primary?
[19:57] <h00k> Clucker: probably '/'
[19:57] <sarsaeol> lotuspsychje: can you log out of your account, then access a terminal window with ctrl+alt+f1 and then issue 'init 0' a little harsher but may do the trick
[19:57] <h00k> Clucker: unless you have a separate /home, in which case mount / where you want the OS, and /home where you want your separate 'home' (user) data
[19:58] <lotuspsychje> sarsaeol: lemme try holdon
[20:00] <iri--> I've just booted an Ubuntu 13.10 usb-stick, and it doesn't see my LVM partitions. They show up as "unknown partition". vgscan finds no volume groups. Nothing interesting in dmesg. Any advice?  They were showing up before I installed a couple of disks (and possibly reordered them so they appear as /dev/sd{a->b}, for example)
[20:00] <iri--> (did I exceed the line length limit there?)
[20:00] <iri--> (I finished with "example)")
[20:00] <lotuspsychje> sarsaeol: ctrl alt f1 seems not to work
[20:01] <sarsaeol> lotuspsychje: have you tried… a hammer?
[20:01] <lotuspsychje> sarsaeol: lol
[20:01] <sarsaeol> srry out of ideas, good luck though =/
[20:02] <lotuspsychje> sarsaeol: tnx
[20:03] <iri--> So the partitions are showing up as "Linux" rather than "Linux LVM". Why might that happen?
[20:05] <tankerkiller125> Helo
[20:05] <hassen> strange..now i'm getting a very low download speed,while others around in the house's LAN are getting good bandwidths
[20:05] <Clucker> h00k still there? got disconnected
[20:05] <tankerkiller125> Cna any one help me with my problem of my top most right menu (the logout and shutfown menu)
[20:06] <tankerkiller125> has dissapeared
[20:06] <h00k> Clucker: yep, in and out occasionally
[20:07] <Clucker> h00k, alright so / for primary partition, is this ok if I'll be dual booting with windows? Windows is on my SSD and ubuntu will be on the external
[20:08] <h00k> Clucker: that should work, yep. Consider putting the bootloader on your internal drive, then, so you can boot Windows nicely without the external plugged in
[20:09] <grendal_prime>  /join #eclipse
[20:14] <SJr> At 2:47:05 this morning my laptop syslog spit out this message:  usb 4-2: device not accepting address 22, error -62 . It then spammed xhci_hcd 0000:00:14.0: Timeout while waiting for a slot. When I got in this morning my USB 3.0 ports are dead. I'm pretty sure a reboot will fix this, but I was wondering what else I should do.
[20:16] <SJr> Actually it is spamming this until this morning when I disconnected everyhing:  http://www.pastebin.ca/2510969
[20:17] <fortinux> hi
[20:19] <wallzero> I can't install the Cuda toolkit in Trusty. The nvidia-cuda-toolkit relies on nvidia-opencl-dev, which conflicts with nvidia-libopencl1-331 from the nvidia-331 drivers. Please advise.
[20:22] <OerHeks> wallzero, join #ubuntu+1 for trusty 14.04 support until release
[20:23] <fortinux> hi
[20:24] <wallzero> DerHeks: Thank you.
[20:25] <aca20031> Trying to setup a samba domain to test something. Its a VM. My windows client can access the samba share at \\servername but when I try to add it to the domain it says "Windows cannot find an account for your computer in the DOMAINNAME domain". If I try to continue anyway it says it cant find or contact the domain. There are no samba logs showing the connection that i can see
[20:26] <MonkeyDust> aca20031  i have a samba share with XP in virtualbox, lemme try
[20:27] <aca20031> another fun note, the ubuntu VM cant ping the windows VM
[20:27] <aca20031> but the windows VM can ping the ubuntu VM
[20:27] <gordonjcp> aca20031: can anything ping the windows VM>
[20:27] <bekks> aca20031: are you using NAT for your vm?
[20:27] <fortinux> could it be your firewall?
[20:28] <aca20031> the host cant ping the windows VM either, but it can resolve its hostname
[20:28] <aca20031> and theres no NAT on the VM no, the 2 are connected to a virtual switch
[20:28] <guest4545> exit
[20:28] <Agent86> I am certain that you can't have more then one return statement in the function but want to confirm ?
[20:29] <aca20031> windows firewall disabled, i can ping it now
[20:29] <aca20031> Agent86 you can have more than one return statement, e.g. if (something) { return a; } else { return b; }
[20:30] <MonkeyDust> aca20031  first thing on my mind: is the vm set to NAT or to bridged mode?
[20:30] <Agent86> aca20031: oh right that, but what about just straight return x, return b, return c or something
[20:30] <aca20031> yeah so i can ping it now. same issue though.
[20:30] <Agent86> I mean you can't just have new lines with return, the print something then return and print some other stuff right. once it returns once it's done isn't it ?
[20:30] <aca20031> Agent86 no you cant do that
[20:31] <Agent86> ok I thought so just wanted to confirm that thanks
[20:31] <MonkeyDust> aca20031  same here, can't ping the VM
[20:31] <aca20031> MonkeyDust the VMs are connected to the same virtual switch and connected to the host in bridged mode
[20:31] <aca20031> i can ping it now, killed windows firewall
[20:32] <josePHPagoda> anyone know how to fix the wacom intuos 4 puck mouse buttons?
[20:32] <josePHPagoda> it worked in 12.10, but broke in anything more recent than that
[20:33] <MonkeyDust> aca20031  ok, can you rdesktop to the VM ? or you don't know what that is?
[20:33] <aca20031> MonkeyDust the windows VM? uhh maybe, probably
[20:33] <aca20031> meh sec
[20:34] <reconmaster> im having trouble with my gnome terminal and nvidia drivers, found a few bug reports on it but I'm not sure what I need to do (change my drivers or mess with the xorg configuration files?), possibly a sync rate issue?
[20:35] <reconmaster> anyone have any experience with this issue?
[20:35] <MonkeyDust> aca20031  i can rdesktop to the VM, but not ping, it's odd
[20:35] <reconmaster> text in terminal disappears at random intervals
[20:35] <aca20031> MonkeyDust yes, the host can RDP to the windows VM and ping it.
[20:35] <aca20031> and the ubuntu server and windows VM can ping eachother now
[20:36] <aca20031> but the windows VM still complains when trying to join the servers domain
[20:37] <aca20031> only thing in the logs is "Samba name server is now a local master browser for workgroup DOMAINNAME on subnet LOCALIP"
[20:42] <osbin> good ewening got laptop Compaq Presario CQ71-401SA Notebook anfd cant find video dirver any help lads?
[20:43] <osbin> im new in ubuntu please hellp someone
[20:44] <lickalott> whats the video card model?
 mate i dont know :) i mean intel graphic or some things like that
[20:45] <lickalott> you've installed ubuntu over windows or are you dual booting?
[20:45] <d0n> sall
[20:46] <Pbwizkid> exit
[20:46] <osbin> i will try find the name one moment
[20:46] <d0n> whi?
[20:47] <lickalott> if you're dual booting, just go back into windows and see what it's titled.  If you only have ubuntu type lspci and find the make/model of the video card
[20:48] <osbin> here is Mobile Intel 4 Series Express Chipset Family Driver
 im not dualbooting at mom
[20:48] <lickalott> k
[20:51] <mathsz> hello! looking for some help on ubuntu and virtualbox
[20:52] <Barack_Obama> hello
[20:52] <Barack_Obama> I have questions
[20:52] <josePHPagoda> hi Barack_Obama
[20:52] <lickalott> !ask
[20:53] <mathsz> Allright; Question : Running ubuntu 12.04 LTS on virtualbox. After installing guest additions and restarting the computer, I cannot boot into the VM.
[20:56] <Kamuela> I'm running 13.10 and I have a display issue. What are my troubleshooting steps?
[21:03] <moondoggy> Can someone give me a hand burning an iso image onto a USB stick?
[21:03] <moondoggy> I'm getting "800MB copied", but the stick still just has the files on it that it had before.
[21:04] <jhutchins> moondoggy: How are you attempting to do this?
[21:04] <moondoggy> I'm trying to burn a bootable linux image onto it with my Ubuntu machine.
[21:04] <moondoggy> here's the dd commmand I'm using:
[21:05] <josePHPagoda> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom/LatestDriver <-- I see that, but the PPA doesn't appear to be updated for 13.10.  Am I understanding that properly?
[21:05] <moondoggy> sudo dd if=blahblah.iso of=/dev/sdb1 bs=16M
[21:05] <jhutchins> moondoggy: Ah, of=/dev/sdb
[21:05] <jhutchins> No need for blocksize, let dd figure it out.
[21:05] <moondoggy> I tried dumping to /dev/sdb, but that did the same thing--nothing, apparently.
[21:06] <jhutchins> moondoggy: Are you positive that sdb is the right device?  It's not mounted anywhere, is it?
[21:06] <moondoggy> Oh, it's still mounted!
[21:06] <moondoggy> I have to "umount" it first?
[21:06] <zzxc_afk> moondoggy: Yes
[21:06] <jhutchins> moondoggy: That'll make a bit of a mess.  Yes, unmount.
[21:06] <moondoggy> Eureka!
[21:07] <moondoggy> Thanks, jhutchins, zzxc_afk.
[21:08] <jhutchins> moondoggy: Did you check the md5sum of the iso?
[21:08] <sharperguy> Anyone know if theres a way i can slow down a video in vlc but resample the audio so it doesn't sound lower pitch?
[21:10] <lickalott> anyone here have any experience with rsnapshot?
[21:10] <lickalott> it gives me the finger when i try to backup /boot /sbin and /bin
[21:13] <moondoggy> jhutchins: no, but verified the signature key.
[21:13] <ab2qik_> Precise pangolin needs network-manager. Cannot get online with it. Any ideas
[21:13] <moondoggy> Still not doing anything except changing th volume name.
[21:14] <Agent86> http://bpaste.net/show/MDAkzj0amhaTtlArmEnb/   row 2 gives me binding errors says i'm only giving one, but that return is 5
[21:16] <ab2qik_> can a package be downloaded and installed on a ubuntu
[21:16] <Agent86> incorrect number of bindings supplied, current statemetn uses 5, and there are 1 supplied,
[21:17] <Agent86> oops wrong channel sorry
[21:17] <BluesKaj_> !apt | ab2qik_
[21:18] <SteveBell> hey all. anybody some experience with plex on ubuntu? I'm trying to access movies on an ex hdd connected to ubuntu for access in the plex media server. not sure about what drive permissions should be used for that to work
[21:21] <salo> hi everybody, i need help with an ubuntu install, having trouble with UEFI, can anyone give a hand?
[21:21] <Bray90820> How would I run a terminal command at startup
[21:23] <salo> help?
[21:23] <BluesKaj_> SteveBell, how are you running plex with xbmc ?
[21:24] <SteveBell> BluesKaj_: did I say anything about xbmc?
[21:25] <Bray90820> BluesKaj_: there is a plugin for xbmc called plexbmc which allows the plex media server to be used with xbmc
[21:25] <salo> "The best place to start for general help with Ubuntu or just to meet other Ubuntu users is #ubuntu or one of the many local language channels"  - Can someone PM me to help me out with an issue?
[21:25] <BluesKaj_> ok ,nm SteveBell , i don't need attitude
[21:25] <Pessimist> !ask
[21:25] <Pessimist> !ask | salo
[21:25] <SteveBell> maybe I'm doing something stupid but was going to try setup plex to get access from outside wlan networks to my media files. and since xbmc can't do that was going to try with plex. BluesKaj_ not sure what you mean
[21:26] <vlad_starkov> Question: Is it fine choice for os SSD: http://ark.intel.com/products/74949/Intel-SSD-DC-S3500-Series-80GB-2_5in-SATA-6Gbs-20nm-MLC ?
[21:26] <Bray90820> salo: you will prob get more help if you don't pm
[21:26] <BluesKaj_> Bray90820, ok fine that's sort of what I asked
[21:26] <Bray90820> more users will be able to help
[21:26] <SteveBell> I heard of Plexbmc but am unsure how to use taht
[21:26] <Bray90820> BluesKaj_: i am a long time plex user so ask me any questiosn you ask
[21:27] <Aikar> Hi - I just got a SLI setup, trying to run triple head (Friend sold me his build really cheap, couldnt pass it up). I'm having trouble enabling xinerama. I can get the login screen fine, but logging in hangs with black screen and mouse cursor. Starting X from TTY does same and last line printed is loading extension NV-CONTROL. Ive even tried using the nvidia-331 drivers, and modified Xorg.conf to have SLI=On and MultiGPU=On too, same problem
[21:27] <SteveBell> Bray90820: so what would you recommend if I want to access my music / videos from an outside wlan? plex or xbmc (which I have already setup) with plexbmc?
[21:27] <BluesKaj_> it's not me , Bray90820 , it's SteveBell who needs help , i just use VLC
[21:30] <jpedroza2k> In 13.10 there is an icon in the menu that allows you to switch between performance and powersave, is that actually functional? I am not seeing a difference in battery usage or screen brightness when I switch.
[21:30] <Bray90820> SteveBell: plex has a really nice service called myplex witch can also be used with plexbmc
[21:30] <MrSandwich3z> º_º
[21:31] <Bray90820> or a web player if you can't install any apps
[21:32] <Bray90820> SteveBell: myplex intagrates with the plex media server just like you were local
[21:32] <salo> Thx! Sorry! First time here... My knowlegde is limited on this, so here it goes. I just bought a new laptop asking no OS, but it comes with a crapy Win8.1 Pro asking for activation. It has this UEFI thing, that i’m totally new to, meaning it comes with 1 partition for OEM, one for EFI, one C: for the OS and one other for something else. I got to ma
[21:32] <salo> ke it to BIOS and set legacy mode, making it run USB with 13.10. Question is: If i want to make a Ubuntu installation (and possibly a win7 dual boot in the future) can i simply wipe this EFI and other  partitions, and part the drive from the start, and make a normal BIOS to OS installation like my previous laptop?
[21:35] <Bray90820> How would i run a termial command on statup
[21:38] <BluesKaj> salo , go into the bios/uefi and setup the uefi to legacy , and choose the boot legacy first option . I used gparted to setup the / and /home partitons , and make a ntfs for W7 at the begining of the hdd, the ext4 for/ and /home for ubuntu
[21:39] <MonkeyDust> Bray90820  in a terminal, type    man screen    then scoll down to '-d -m'
[21:39] <salo> bluesKaj , so this whole UEFI stuff is "optional" as long as i keep it in legacy?
[21:39] <BluesKaj> salo, then ext4 for/ and /home for ubuntu on the remainder of the drive
[21:39] <BluesKaj> yup , you got it , salo
[21:40] <Cawa_> hi, maybe someone can help me http://askubuntu.com/questions/392279/kernel-panic-not-syncing-attempted-to-kill-init
[21:41] <Guest6412> Anyone know how to fix issues with Sources.list?
[21:42] <BluesKaj> Guest6412, what are your issues with it ?
[21:42] <Bray90820> MonkeyDust: No manual entry for screen
[21:43] <salo> BluesKaj thx a lot! Cheers!
[21:43] <Guest6412> I manually removed some entries in sources.list.d Which corrected sudo apt-get update issues.  But now when I use the command Sudo apt-get upgrade i'm left with 30 that wont upgrade
[21:44] <BluesKaj> salo, good luck ..hope it works out for you ;)
[21:45] <k1l> Guest6412: please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update&&sudo apt-get upgrade"  and "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d"
[21:45] <Guest6412> just a sec
[21:46] <BluesKaj> Guest6412, you probly need to remove them from the software center sources as well
[21:46] <Pessimist> Guest6412, next time you add ppa I suggest you remove them with ppa-purge ;)
[21:47] <BluesKaj> ppas tend to hang around , Guest6412
[21:47] <Guest6412> yes I forgot
[21:48] <Guest6412> yes they do just a matter of where they hand around lol
[21:49] <Guest6412> So the sources.list file isnt the only file used/referenced when making an apt-get update/upgrade call?
[21:51] <jhutchins> Guest6412: No, anything in the sources.list.d/ directory.
[21:51] <jhutchins> Guest6412: plus sources.list itself.
[21:51] <Guest6412> so only those two ok
[21:52] <BluesKaj> Guest6412, package managers like synaptic need to be edited too
[21:52] <k1l> Guest6412: are you gonna show that error messages?
[21:53] <Guest6412> Apt-get update reports all ok but apt-get upgrade reports 30 failed attempts to connect to the PPA url
[21:54] <k1l> !paste | Guest6412
[21:55] <Guest6412> thnx
[21:58] <mechtn> hey guys
[21:59] <mechtn> i just got a dedicated server running ubuntu desktop
[21:59] <jhutchins> Guest6412: Find something unique about the ppa, grep -r <unique string> /etc/apt/*
[21:59] <mechtn> i can ssh into it and install xrdp but when I RDP i get a blank screen
[21:59] <jhutchins> mechtn: Did you configure and start the rdp server?
[22:00] <sda> Hi all! I would like to create a remote session on my desktop from another device. I would also like to be able to choose the resolution reconnect. And be able to connect multiple different users.
[22:01] <Guest6412> Actually I dont think there is anything wrong with my sources.list file I think its just a connection issues i'm having here
[22:02] <Guest6412> Yes i'm right it was just a connection issue
[22:03] <Guest6412> didnt make sense for the apt-get update to report correctly but apt-get upgrade not about to establish a handshake with the resource...unless of course there was a connection issue
[22:03] <mechtn> jhutchins - yes.  it's like there is no desktop running
[22:03] <jhutchins> sda: There are several ways to do that, vnc, rdp, xdmcp.
[22:04] <jhutchins> mechtn: Some configurations of rdp require that a session exist and be logged in to connect.
[22:04] <Guest6412> Thnx for the help anyway : )
[22:05] <Bray90820> How would i run a terminal command at startup
[22:05] <sda> jhutchins, xrdp i have problem with reconnection, vnc i cannot chose the resolution before connect, now i'm checking xdmcp
[22:06] <asdf32432> Hi, I just installed 13.04 but am not sure whether I did it in UEFI mode. How would I know? My system boots straight into UEFI Windows 8 atm
[22:06] <Guest6412> Deleting the resource within the sources.list.d was ok but required an apt-get update -f to correct the failed reports
[22:06] <Pessimist> Bray90820, search for 'startup applications' in unity
[22:06] <mechtn> jhutchins - if i only have ssh access how would i start a session?
[22:07] <Bray90820> Pessimist: i was not thinking at all
[22:08] <asdf32432> Anyone know? Or could anyone run me through doing a an update-grub from a live install CD?
[22:09] <mike-irssi> Bray90820: somebody mentioned putting them in "profile"
[22:10] <rizqibintang> ada yang bisa bantu saya
[22:10] <Bray90820> mike-irssi: i think statup programs will work for me
[22:11] <k1l> !id | rizqibintang
[22:12] <jhutchins> sda: Remember there are three or four different vnc clients and several different servers.
[22:13] <jhutchins> mechtn: You can forward GUI programs over ssh with ssh -X
[22:13] <rizqibintang> okay gyus,, thank
[22:13] <jhutchins> mechtn: That's often faster than loading a whole desktop session and forwarding that.
[22:14] <jhutchins> mechtn: There is also nomachine's nx, that's supposed to be faster than VNC.
[22:14] <gordonjcp> mechtn: what are you trying to run remotely?
[22:19] <rizqibintang> all,, can you help me,,,, please
[22:20] <rizqibintang> help me please
[22:21] <mike-irssi> asdf32432: well if you have grub installed at for example sda1 instead of sda--just for example, i think updating is gonna repeat your problem
[22:22] <mike-irssi> although tbph UEFI, i've never heard of it
[22:22] <jmgk> rizqibintang:  quit spamming
[22:22] <jmgk> you've spammed n Mintchat I think
[22:22] <MonkeyDust> Bray90820  install screen first, then read the man page
[22:22] <jmgk> hi there mike-irssi
[22:22] <jmgk> :)
[22:22] <LordNed> kenetik, got X to work finally. Had to run some command to change the user group on uh, /tmp/.X11-unix
[22:23] <k1l> rizqibintang: "/join  #ubuntu-id"
[22:24] <lar4> How can I copy a folder excluding one subfolder with its subfolders?
[22:26] <kenetik> You got the command saved?
[22:27] <lickalott> guys whats the command to show installed packages?
[22:27] <MonkeyDust> lar4  rsync --exclude
[22:27] <lar4> MonkeyDust, ty
[22:28] <kenetik> lickalott: dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall
[22:28] <lickalott> tks!
[22:29] <Bray90820> MonkeyDust: I found a different way of doing it
[22:29] <rizqibintang> ar......... i have problem ,, my system setting no sign / in sonal and hardware, which makes it able to connect the internet
[22:30] <lar4> MonkeyDust, all I get is "skipping directory ."
[22:33] <rizqibintang> ar......... i have problem ,, my system setting no sign / in sonal and hardware, which makes it able to connect the internet,,, kenetik, help me please
[22:33] <kenetik> Why are you calling me out? Why did you repeat yourself with shitty grammar?
[22:34] <Pessimist> !grammar
[22:34] <Bray90820> So now I need help with silincing the fans on my MacPro tower
[22:34] <TuxBlackEdo> When I make a UEFI disk, the EFI partition has to be formatted with fat32, do I need to put something into the efi partition?
[22:34] <mike-irssi> i think he means he's got a no smoking sign where his internet usually is
[22:35] <mike-irssi> he's foriegn
[22:35] <rizqibintang> hehehee,,, sorry
[22:36] <theotherguy6> does anybody know how to run backtrack 5 r3 ?
[22:36] <k1l> rizqibintang: was told quite often, that in #ubuntu-id he can get help in his native language
[22:36] <k1l> !backtrack | theotherguy6
[22:37] <k1l> besides that backtrack is deprecated and not based on ubuntu anymore
[22:38] <lar4> I do a  rsync /dirA/  /dirB/  exclude=/dirA/sds/  and I get a "skipping directory ."  output instead of anything copying
[22:38] <Pessimist> TuxBlackEdo, bootloader goes there. Ubuntu installer takes care of that for you
[22:38] <TuxBlackEdo> ok good
[22:38] <Pessimist> TuxBlackEdo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[22:39] <rizqibintang>  I find it difficult to use bugtraq,,, then I want to ask her
[22:40] <jmgk> rizqibintang:  stop it
[22:40] <jmgk> eh
[22:41] <rizqibintang> sorry if my language is very annoying,, bye
[22:42] <aca20031> why is aptitude refusing to install dependencies... aptitude install sernet-samba-ad -- The following packages have unmet dependencies...the following actions will resolve these: Keep these 3 uninstalled packages at their current state. Accept? Y - 0 packages installed
[22:42] <aca20031> makes no sense to me, why isnt it trying to install the dependencies
[22:42] <theotherguy6> Okay I got the gnome back track 64 bit I booted it with VMware and it looked like it was working and it said boot at end of the end and just set there and did nothing
[22:43] <k1l> theotherguy6: no backtrack support in here. see the bots message
[22:43] <k1l> !backtrack > theotherguy6
[22:44] <lar4> I do a  rsync --exclude '/dirA/sds/' /dirA/  /dirB/   and I get a "skipping directory ."  output instead of anything copying
[22:46] <muchdoge1> Hey everybody! I could use some help, ill post my question below
[22:46] <Pessimist> !ask | muchdoge1
[22:47] <aca20031> so no thoughts on how to slap aptitude into installing the dependencies?
[22:47] <rizqibintang> hello,,,,,,thank
[22:47] <DLC> aca20031: i usually do apt-get dist-upgrade when I run into similar problems
[22:48] <aca20031> seems broken but ok :P
[22:51] <berardino> ciao
[22:51] <berardino> !list
[22:51] <muchdoge1> So I just installed Xbuntu 13.10 yesterday, and have no exp with it at all, so any instructions will need to be pretty basic. I have a NVIDIA graphics chip built into my mother board, and a AMD HD 6770 plugged into the pci slot. The computer dosn't see it at all. I thought the pci-e slot might be disabled, but The BIOS does not allow me to mess with PCI settings at all, nor dose it give me options about graphics. So, here is what im th
[22:52] <ikonia> muchdoge1: use one or the mother
[22:52] <ikonia> muchdoge1: you're going ot have problems missing those cards with good results wihtout effort
[22:52] <muchdoge1> ikonia: er, what do you mean one or the other?
[22:52] <ikonia> muchdoge1: either the nvidia or the amd
[22:53] <FormatCompletely> Is it possible to format the disk ubuntu is on while running ubuntu? without a live usb
[22:53] <muchdoge1> ikonia, I would love to tun off the NVIDIA, but the problem is it wont recognize the AMD.
[22:53] <muchdoge1> so if I do, I have no graphics, also I dont know how.
[22:53] <ikonia> muchdoge1: so run off the nvidia.
[22:53] <ikonia> muchdoge1: what's stopping you using the nvidia ?
[22:53] <muchdoge1> ikonia, the nvidia is a piece of crap. The amd is a very nice card.
[22:54] <ikonia> muchdoge1: ok, so disable the nvidia, and you'll probably find the amd will come to life, you will probably need to configure it better than default
[22:54] <muchdoge1> ok, how would one disable a chip that is intigrated into the motherboard?
[22:54] <ikonia> muchdoge1: in the bios ?
[22:55] <lar4> I do a  rsync --exclude '/dirA/sds/' /dirA/  /dirB/   but nothing is copied. I get a "skipping directory ."  output
[22:55] <muchdoge1> no options for it.
[22:55] <ikonia> muchdoge1: seems unlikley
[22:55] <muchdoge1> ikonia: I know, but I ran around the bios for 4 hours last night, checking every option
[22:56] <ikonia> muchdoge1: check the manual
[22:56] <muchdoge1> rgr
[22:56] <lickalott> lar4 what are we talking about?
[22:56] <lickalott> just a straight rsync?
[22:57] <ikonia> lar4: man rsync - LEARN how to use it
[22:57] <lar4> lickalott, it's an rsync command, it's supposed to copy a folder excluding a subfolder
[22:57] <ikonia> lar4: instead of guessing
[22:59] <jhutchins> muchmoist: No option to turn off the graphics in the BIOS?
[22:59] <jhutchins> muchmoist: Sorry, I guess he gave up.
[23:03] <aca20031> really, I have to do a dist-upgrade to get aptitude to install samba4? lol well thanks.
[23:03] <aca20031> seemed to work
[23:03] <ch1pasa> asdasjkda
[23:03] <ch1pasa> dasda
[23:04] <lar4> OK now I did  rsync /dirA  /dirB  and I get "skiping directory dirA". I don't get it
[23:04] <ikonia> lar4: READ the man page
[23:05] <ch1pasa> hey all
[23:05] <ch1pasa> anyone familiar with vnc
[23:05] <lickalott> !ask ch1pasa
[23:05] <ch1pasa> anyone familiar with vnc
[23:05] <ch1pasa> okay
[23:05] <ch1pasa> i activated vnc with ubuntu
[23:05] <ch1pasa> how do i find out the ip that i need to connect with it
[23:06] <lickalott> huh?
[23:06] <ch1pasa> um
[23:06] <ch1pasa> when you activate a vnc server
[23:06] <ch1pasa> you connect to an ip correct?
[23:06] <lickalott> you have vnc running on your ubuntu rig, and you want to know which IP to connect to from another system?  (non ubuntu)
[23:06] <ch1pasa> yes
[23:06] <ikonia> ch1pasa: you can connect to an IP or FQDN - it's up to you
[23:07] <lickalott> whats does ifconfig give you
[23:07] <lickalott> you should have another interface name now.  or...just try the ip of the system + port# that you are using
[23:07] <ch1pasa> it gives me a lot
[23:07] <lickalott> OR.... use openvpn <--- much better imo
[23:07] <ch1pasa> ifconfig doesnt give me a port nor does the remote viewer
[23:08] <lickalott> lar4 are you just trying to back stuff up?
[23:08] <lar4> lickalott, yeah
[23:08] <ch1pasa> why does it not give me the option?
[23:09] <lickalott> ifconfig won't give you a port.  the port, unless you changed it, stays standard with vnc.  so if you don't see a specific interface in ifconfig for your vnc then try the main IP (prob eth0) + the default vnc port (i.e. 192.168.1.1:943)
[23:09] <ch1pasa> 192.168.1.130:943 doesnt work
[23:10] <lickalott> lar4 - two options: Rsnapshot (https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-install-rsnapshot-on-ubuntu-12-04) or a script (https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/serverguide.pdf  Pg 294)
[23:10] <lickalott> pastebin your ifconfig ch1pasa
[23:11] <ch1pasa> it worked
[23:11] <ch1pasa> now how do i find out my external ip?
[23:11] <lickalott> my stuff always works sometimes
[23:11] <ch1pasa> for remote desktop viewer
[23:11] <lickalott> is it windows or *nix?
[23:11] <ch1pasa> ubuntu
[23:11] <lickalott> open a terminal and do ifconfig
[23:12] <lickalott> am I missing something there?
[23:12] <ch1pasa> http://pastebin.com/T0KKQ5vs
[23:13] <lickalott> are you good now ch1pasa?
[23:13] <ch1pasa> no
 it worked <------??
[23:13] <ch1pasa> i pasted my pastebin
[23:14] <ch1pasa> no external ip?
[23:14] <DLC> ch1pasa: are you connecting through a wireless router?
[23:14] <ch1pasa> yeah and i selected forward ports automatically
[23:14] <lickalott> yeah, but you pasted that after you said it worked.
[23:15] <lickalott> is this all on an internal network?
[23:15] <ch1pasa> oh oops
[23:15] <ch1pasa> yes
[23:15] <ch1pasa> the desktop is not on a wifi router
[23:15] <lickalott> shouldn't matter
[23:15] <ch1pasa> its direct connection
[23:15] <lickalott> network is network
[23:15] <ch1pasa> okay
[23:15] <lickalott> so desktop is vnc server and <?> is the client
[23:16] <lickalott> just so I can paint the picture in my head
[23:16] <ch1pasa> i want to use my iphone to see my ubuntu desktop computer
[23:16] <jhutchins> lickalott: Whatever vnc client your phone supports.
[23:17] <lickalott> I meant which machine jhutchins
[23:17] <ch1pasa> iphone wont connect
[23:17] <lickalott> ch1pasa, your phone has the vnc client software on it.
[23:17] <ch1pasa> yes
[23:17] <ch1pasa> mocha vnc lite
[23:18] <ch1pasa> i entered my external ip and i dont know what the port to remote desktop viewew is
[23:18] <lickalott> are you using wifi vs CDMA?
[23:18] <chris125> #kaas
[23:18] <ch1pasa> gsm
[23:18] <DLC> ch1pasa: try pointing your browser to 192.168.0.1 to find out the external ip
[23:18] <lickalott> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Network_Computing
[23:19] <ch1pasa> browser keeps loading with that ip
[23:19] <lickalott> okay, so its NOT internal network.  Then you will need to forward the ports on your router to allow outside connections
[23:20] <Ice_Strike> I am getting error when I do: sudo apt-get install avahi-daemon
[23:20] <Ice_Strike> see http://pastebin.com/PN79Crjc
[23:20] <lickalott> connect to your wireless network and try your internal IP to see if it works.  If that is successful, you need to forward the ports in your router and you'll be putting the ISP given IP address not the internal IP
[23:21] <ch1pasa> okay
[23:21] <ch1pasa> now i am forwarding the port
[23:21] <ch1pasa> what port should i forward
[23:21] <lickalott> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Network_Computing
[23:22] <ch1pasa> okay so its 5900
[23:22] <lickalott> just an opinion....teamviewer is a pretty stout program for what you're doing
[23:22] <lickalott> but...handle yo bidness
[23:22] <ch1pasa> yeah but everytime i install something through terminal it doesnt work
[23:23] <ch1pasa> like for example i cant even install tor
[23:23] <lickalott> ssh enabled on the ubuntu machine and connectbot on your phone
[23:23] <lickalott> anyway...sidetrack
[23:23] <lickalott> do you man....do you
[23:26] <WikiWill> Hello
[23:27] <WikiWill> Anyone here not too tired to help me with installation issues?
[23:27] <lickalott> !ask
[23:30] <DLC> Ice_Strike: it seems there is a problem with your sources. You can try setting a different server through synaptic
[23:30] <WikiWill> My mistake. I installed Ubuntu "alongside windows", and it seems to have written ubuntu over it , improperly installed grub, and while i did fix grub, I cannot access my windows files from ubuntu, nor can I detect my windows partition with anything, and the windows recovery CD says "wrong version of windows", and reboots.
[23:31] <hitsujiTMO> WikiWill: can you pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l
[23:32] <WikiWill> hitsujiTMO: here you go: http://pastebin.com/fHXdumbQ
[23:32] <ch1pasa> i forwarded 5900 and it says timed out
[23:33] <resc_user_3019> hi
[23:33] <ch1pasa> any ideas?
[23:33] <resc_user_3019> is ther anybody to help me ?
[23:33] <lickalott> WikiWill looks like sdb isn't formatted.
[23:33] <lickalott> no parition table
[23:34] <somsip> !anyone | resc_user_3019
[23:34] <lickalott> sda = your stroage drive?
[23:34] <WikiWill> I believe it is a storage drive
[23:34] <lickalott> resc_user_3019 ask your question!
[23:34] <WikiWill> I'll remove and re-paste
[23:34] <resc_user_3019> i have ubuntu dual boot installation problems with my new laptop
[23:34] <lickalott> that's fine WikiWill.  you can leave it.
[23:35] <WikiWill> yes it is a storage drive. weird, because I'm booting on sda and it says only one partition
[23:35] <lickalott> my opinion - launch the live cd and once you're in open a terminal and run gparted.  Format /dev/sdb and try the install again
[23:35] <lickalott> need to be more specific resc_user_3019
[23:36] <lickalott> ch1pasa are you sure it should be 5900?
[23:36] <lickalott> i didn't read up on it
[23:36] <resc_user_3019> while installing ubuntu it my acer e1 530 laptop, it can not recognise my windows 7 and partitions
[23:37] <lickalott> ch1pasa looks like you need 5500 forwarded from 1.130 and 5900 as well
[23:37] <WikiWill> lickalott, I'm actually running ubuntu right now off of my hard drive.  there are multiple partitions as there is another copy of ubuntu installed that i can boot into as well. But, my problem is that ubuntu seems to have over-written my windows partition.
[23:37] <lickalott> well....that stinks
[23:37] <resc_user_3019> if i try to install it will earase all the hdd and there will be anly linux after that
[23:37] <WikiWill> And i clicked "install alongside windows", is there any chance it is still there?
[23:38] <Bray90820> what is the owner where no one is the owner
[23:38] <resc_user_3019> i have searched the net and was not able to find a suitable solution and still in truuble
[23:38] <Bray90820> if that makes any sense
[23:39] <lickalott> prob not.  (based on that fdisk output)  You can try a program called photorec to retrieve your stuff
[23:39] <lickalott> WikiWill ^^
[23:39] <lickalott> Bray90820 nobody
[23:40] <Bray90820> Thank you
[23:40] <resc_user_3019> i think it might be caused by uefi bios
[23:40] <lickalott> could be resc_user_3019
[23:40] <WikiWill> Alright, I left a post on the ubuntu forums to see if anyone could help, but in the meantime i will try photorec. thanks for your time
[23:40] <lickalott> WikiWill photorec will run on ubuntu
[23:40] <kandinski> I want to sync dropbox-like betwen a local directory and a smb share
[23:40] <kandinski> it's so I can work from home, then sync to the work directory automagically when I come in to work
[23:41] <salo> trying to install 13.10 on a i7-4700MG, nvidia gtx 650m. Have set legacy mode (to bypass the win 8.1 demo UEFI crap), and got to the purple screen with orange dots going on. After a while screen flicks to black (pc doesn't go off). Any help?
[23:41] <kandinski> which is the recommended option these days?
[23:41] <somsip> kandinski: what sort of work are you doing?
[23:41] <kandinski> all and any
[23:41] <kandinski> from programming to writing openoffice documents
[23:41] <somsip> kandinski: then I'd suggest git
[23:41] <lickalott> salo - dual boot or single install?
[23:42] <kandinski> I just want it to be automated, not have to think about it
[23:42] <lickalott> I think you can choose your destination for the dropbox folder locally kandinski
[23:42] <somsip> kandinski: then you are walking a line of balance between control and functionality. Dropbox is simpler. Git offers more
[23:42] <lickalott> you can with winblows installs
[23:43] <kandinski> yep, but $company, while happy for me to take work home in a laptop, absolutely forbids using dropbox
[23:43] <lickalott> ch1pasa where you at homey?
[23:43] <DLC> kandinski: git / svn is pretty neat
[23:43] <kandinski> hence the "dropbox clone"
[23:43] <somsip> kandinski: IIRC dropbox is built on something git-like
[23:43] <DLC> kandinski: there is also google drive and ubuntu one
[23:43] <kandinski> yeah, I use git all the time
[23:43] <salo> lickalott - My goal is to end with a 13.10 / Win7 dual boot.  Current status is a newly bought pc with some sort of DEMO of Win 8.1, which i want to erradicate and replace with ubuntu. 2nd phase would be to add win7 as dual boot
[23:43] <lickalott> kandinski can you run openvpn from work so you can have direct access to the files from home?
[23:43] <kandinski> DLC, and by extension, any storage of data outside company property
[23:44] <somsip> kandinski: so you sell the benefits of version control to your company
[23:44] <resc_user_3019> hope you got it.
[23:44] <kandinski> somsip: yeah, we have git repos too, what are we, peasants?
[23:44] <lickalott> I would add win7 first salo, then install easyBCD, then install ubuntu
[23:44] <Fou> hello ... i have a question about permission when using fstab mounting or mapping a drive. I have the .cred file but its still giving me issues with permissions. What I am trying to do is mad a drive on another computer and have my downloads go there. It works and sometimes does not work
[23:44] <DLC> kandinski: even encrypted?
[23:44] <resc_user_3019> do you need anyhthing more regarding my issue
[23:44] <lickalott> resc_user_3019?
[23:44] <Fou> do i have th chmod the cred file ?
[23:44] <somsip> kandinski: nah, just sarcastic to the point of rudeness. EOT for me
[23:44] <resc_user_3019> yes
[23:45] <lickalott> who was that for?  <resc_user_3019> hope you got it.
[23:45] <kandinski> DLC: regulatory constraints affect us. Anyway, sparkleshare is hmm
[23:46] <resc_user_3019> somebody ask to post my problem. i have typed it and waiting for a solution
[23:46] <salo> lickalott - Made a USB with win7 but can't get it to boot... (i'm kinda of inexperienced with this EFI, UEFI, BIOS, bootable stuff, etc.)
[23:46] <salo> only the Ubuntu usb boots
[23:46] <ch1pasa> okay
[23:46] <glitsj16> kandinski: what about btsync? nothing gets stored, machine to machine
[23:46] <ch1pasa> lickalott
[23:46] <ch1pasa> i installed teamviewer
[23:46] <lickalott> its a bear salo.  iirc ubuntu then windows is a lot harder than windows then ubuntu
[23:46] <kandinski> glitsj16: in this case, it would even be in-machine (as far as the smb share is mounted locally)
[23:47] <lickalott> you want me to look at it ch1pasa? or are you just gonna go with TV?
[23:47] <lickalott> resc_user_3019 - repost your issue pls
[23:47] <ch1pasa> try and connect to me it doesnt work
[23:47] <lickalott> on tv?
[23:47] <ch1pasa> 641-112-198
[23:47] <ch1pasa> it says unable to cionnect could not be established
[23:48] <lickalott> wait 1.  need to update
[23:48] <salo> lickalott - what do you mean a "bear"? I trust you being easier with the first install of win 7, but i can't get to boot it...
[23:48] <lickalott> do you have ssh enabled on your ubuntu rig?
[23:48] <resc_user_3019> while i am trying to install ubuntu on my new acer laptop having windows 7, ubuntu cant recognise win7 and other partitions
[23:48] <lickalott> bear - getting win7 to boot with a win8 designed laptop
[23:48] <Bray90820> How would i find the current owner of a directory
[23:48] <lickalott> ls -lrt
[23:49] <lickalott> Bray90820 ^^
[23:49] <Bray90820> Thank you
[23:49] <lickalott> Bray90820 are you on EFnet?
[23:49] <ch1pasa> lickalot did it work?
[23:49] <resc_user_3019> am newby to this chat.and dont know your rules and regulations. sorry
[23:50] <Fou> am i doing something wrong with fstab
[23:50] <lickalott> ch1pasa pm me the pass
[23:50] <salo> lickalott - so bear is good thing or a bad one? i mean, isn't it as easy as building the usb from iso from within windows (with one of those googled apps) and boot with it? Am I missing something?
[23:50] <lickalott> bad salo
[23:51] <lickalott> no....there is much more to it.  You're dealing with effed up bios issues going from 8 - 7
[23:51] <lickalott> ch1pasa
[23:52] <lickalott> resc_user_3019 how far do you get into the install process?
[23:53] <salo> jesus lickalott. you got me scared with the 8 - 7 .... =)  so what are my options? Can I get a win 8.1 FULL version on top of the current DEMO one, and add Ubuntu on dual boot with this UEFI thing?
[23:54] <Ice_Strike> I am trying to install avahi-utils and it keep failing
[23:54] <lickalott> it's not impossible salo, just not easy.  windows 8 is a big fail imho.  So i think it's worth the research.
[23:54] <Ice_Strike> see http://pastebin.com/wXMTrs9m
[23:54] <resc_user_3019> i can install linux completely. but it will erase the entire hdd.
[23:55] <lickalott> but yes, to your question.  You can install ubunut side by side with winblows
[23:55] <Fou> hahaha winblows
[23:55] <lickalott> your drive it partitioned resc_user_3019?
[23:55] <resc_user_3019> it will give a messgae. no operating systems is found in your comp
[23:55] <Fou> does any one know if i can install quickbooks on ubuntu and do they have drivers for some of the devices that i have ?
[23:55] <lickalott> what ver of ubuntu Ice_Strike?
[23:56] <lickalott> after bios post resc_user_3019?
[23:56] <lickalott> no clue here Fou
[23:56] <lickalott> here meaning me
[23:56] <resc_user_3019> linux installation starts
[23:56] <lickalott> did you already install resc_user_3019
[23:58] <resc_user_3019> i have installed win7 and softwares to c drive and there i kept free space for ubuntu
[23:58] <resc_user_3019>  but when ubuntu installs it is showing that no operating system or partions
[23:59] <lickalott> did you partition the drive?