=== GTB3NW is now known as GTB3NW_AWAY [00:19] thank you all for creating ubuntu! [00:20] xubuntu i mean [00:20] it's perfect [00:20] thanks xubuntu656 [00:20] almost done installing [00:20] enjoy! [00:21] took me 5 minutes === phenom__ is now known as phenom === phenom is now known as Guest65734 === Guest65734 is now known as phenom [01:02] I'm getting Write-error on swap-device while installing and I think the progress bar has stopped [01:03] Has my install died and am I in trouble? :v [01:24] LordNed: you are not in trouble in any way from what you are doing if this is a fresh install. i konw, when i see errors like that i want to test the hard drive [01:25] holstein, yeah I'm installing to a jump drive and I think the drive is pretty crummy [01:25] Don't look like I have much choice [01:26] i would just not have a swap partition in that case.. [01:26] but, if the drive is bad, it'll just be bad.. not much you can do in software to deal with it [01:27] Wish I was doing an install on an actual hard drive, would have gone a lot better I imagine :p [01:28] LordNed: a jump drive *is* a drive.. you can install to those, and SD cards [01:28] i used to run from usb sticks and sd cards often.. its handy [01:29] holstein, yeah, but hard disks are much better more reliable/better off than cheap jump drives :p [01:29] LordNed: not necessarily [01:36] LordNed: read/write speed would be the concern for using a usb stick as a hard drive.. not reliablilty [01:36] holstein, I'm just bouncing from one wonderful issue to another today [01:37] Was having issues earlier with grub(?) timing out waiting for root and not being able to boot after finishing an install [01:37] Now my install is telling me it's unable to create director '/root/.cache/dconf': Permissiond enied [01:37] LordNed: if that drive is bad/failing, then you will have those issues.. [01:38] Though google suggests it's not an issue and that nothing actually crashes/bursts into flames from dconf.. [01:38] LordNed: correct.. i have not had that issue.. though i have seen similar errors when dealing with bad drives [01:39] The good news is, if the drive goes toast after I get the install done at a later date, no big loss. THe bad news is I just don't have another drive right now [01:39] LordNed: i would wipe that entire drive.. format it (even though its a usb stick) and maybe even try a test on it if possible.. then, i would try to install without creating a swap partition [01:39] i would use... [01:39] !minimal | LordNed [01:39] LordNed: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want. The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [01:39] could someone help me with a fresh install not able to assign an ip address? [01:40] or, the alternate.. which would allow me to manually choose where and how grub gets installed [01:40] resizt0r: your router is not set to do that automatically? if not, you'll just do static ip's like you do for the rest of the network [01:41] holstein, can the Mini CD be booted from a USB drive to install to another USB drive? [01:41] i dont do static ip's [01:41] the computer in question is setup to have an ip assigned to it [01:41] LordNed: correct.. [01:41] specifically [01:41] which works fine in windows [01:42] and also has worked fine on linux in the past [01:42] resizt0r: then, it should be working.. in order for me to troubleshoot, i will need more information. the windows performance is really irrelevant, except to prove that the hardware is functional [01:42] resizt0r: how do you know the device is working? and not getting an IP? [01:43] well, it tries to connect about 50 times [01:43] before it gives up [01:43] resizt0r: what does? [01:43] just says "obtaining ip address" [01:44] ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, mint 13 14 15 [01:44] resizt0r: mint is not supported here [01:44] i didnt ask any questions about mint [01:44] did i? [01:44] resizt0r: what are you running right now? and how are you running it? xubuntu 13.10? [01:44] currently it has ubuntu 13.10 running [01:45] resizt0r: and, what networking device? [01:45] built in lan on an Asus M5A99FX [01:45] a realtek device i believe [01:45] resizt0r: confirm what it is, and let us know.. you can use lspci in a terminal [01:46] Realtek Semiconductor co. [01:46] resizt0r: when are you getting what error message exactly? [01:47] RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller rev 09 [01:47] i dont get an error message [01:47] it just tries to connect over and over until it quits trying [01:47] resizt0r: the message about 'trying to connect', or 'getting an ip address' 50 times, as you said [01:47] resizt0r: when does what exactly happen? [01:47] it does it when i boot up [01:47] automatically [01:48] im not sure what scientific answer you're looking for, it tries to connect to the internet and cant [01:48] im not an expert, that's all i really know other than what it says during connecting [01:48] 'obtaining ip address' [01:49] resizt0r: http://askubuntu.com/questions/361029/wifi-not-working-after-upgrading-from-12-04-to-13-10 [01:49] also i know that the mac address matches that shown in my router config [01:49] its not wifi [01:49] its wired [01:49] resizt0r: correct.. but, does that look like your issue? [01:49] also, i've tried from version 11.04 up [01:49] let me look [01:50] resizt0r: tried what? [01:50] ubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu 11.04, 12.04, 12.10, 13.10 [01:50] resizt0r: sure.. tried what in all those? this wired device? and it doesnt work? [01:51] resizt0r: all the *buntus are the same.. for hardware support.. they all use the same kernels and the same repos [01:51] resizt0r: the releases, such as 12.04 vs 13.10, that can matter a lot [01:52] well, at least that person has the same wired network adapter as i do [01:52] but mine just says wired network [01:52] resizt0r: ok.. so, thats *not* the issue, then, correct? [01:52] and i dont have any wireless [01:52] im going to see if any wireless is enabled [01:53] nevermind, it doesnt even show up in my network settings [01:53] resizt0r: correct.. you dont have wireless.. i didnt mean to imply that i thought you did.. but, that link for the issue i linked is not good for you, correct? since its not referencing the ethernet? [01:53] the pc in question used to have xubuntu 12.04 on it, running fantastically [01:54] resizt0r: 12.04 is still supported [01:54] yeah i loved 12.04 [01:54] resizt0r: could be that support for that device has been dropped from the kernel, though, it should be able to be added back [01:54] but when i put in the livecd it just says the same crap [01:54] 'obtaining ip address' [01:55] resizt0r: then, that supports a hardware issue.. and i know you say it works in windows [01:55] resizt0r: if 12.04 used to work, you could try getting a 12.04 *older* iso.. the same one you had before.. [01:55] original 12.04 [01:55] rather than 12.04.2 [01:56] i should have one on the backup drive [01:56] resizt0r: sure, and you probably got a newer one just now and tested.. not the *exact* *same* one [01:56] resizt0r: the derivitives dont matter.. you dont need to test kubuntu 13.10 vs xubuntu 13.10, also, mint will be the same, since they use the same kernels as well [01:57] i have them all from version 9 [01:57] resizt0r: then, try the one that worked live.. if it doenst work, then you need to entertain the idea that its hardware related [01:58] guess i'll just keep windows :( [01:58] thx [01:58] resizt0r: i never suggested removing it [01:59] resizt0r: i suggested trying the *exact* live cd that worked in the past [02:00] sorry im just frustrated with it, ive been trying distros and googling about this for 2 weeks [02:01] not to mention the countless irc hours in linux chat rooms [02:01] resizt0r: and, im afraid to say, it looks hardware related.. though, i know you say it works in windows [02:02] resizt0r: i dont find anything searching either, and thats usually because folks arent having issues with it.. === Resinator is now known as resizt0r [02:04] i'll have to create another liveusb to test any more [02:04] this is the machine that i would prefer to run linux on [02:04] Connection: Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller @ 1000.0 Mbps (Rec: 1.64MB Sent: 2.25MB) [02:05] resizt0r: i understand... but i think you should entertain something set in the bios, or something going on from windows.. [02:06] resizt0r: i used to have a wubi install.. i would boot ubuntu in wubi, then, if i restarted the machine into *any* other os, the wired NIC was dead [02:06] what is a wubi install [02:06] resizt0r: i had to unplug the machine.. phyisically disconnect the machine from the wall to get it to work again [02:06] !wubi [02:06] Wubi allows you to install or uninstall Ubuntu 12.04 LTS from within Windows ( version 7 or earlier ) in a simple and safe way. Wubi is INCOMPATIBLE with UEFI, Windows 8 Certified computers, and Windows RAID arrays. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for more information. File wubi bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug [02:07] oh, i dont do that [02:07] resizt0r: not important.. im just saying, i think you are assuming a bit, and looking for an answer based on an assumption [02:07] resizt0r: im not saying you do or did that [02:07] i just want to replace windows [02:07] :/ [02:07] resizt0r: what im saying is.. i had to physically remove the power cord to get my wired NIC to come back up [02:07] hmm [02:07] resizt0r: wired NIC's are cheap, friend [02:08] resizt0r: all im saying is, you might have to think outside the box a bit here [02:08] well this board never fully powers down even rebooting [02:08] either [02:08] so that could be an idea [02:08] resizt0r: its a plausible issue that happens to wired NIC's [02:09] resizt0r: but, im not saying that is the issue.. im just saying, there can be other possibilities than "linux doesent support my NIC" [02:09] well i know it supports it [02:09] i've seen it work fine with it before [02:09] resizt0r: well, you know it did, at least [02:09] about 6 months ago [02:10] resizt0r: and, i think it is safe-ish to assume that it is functional if its working in windows [02:10] the only thing i can think of that i have done [02:10] resizt0r: the only issue is, i dont see any issues online about it, and it should just be working.. [02:10] network-related [02:10] is i tried out a bunch of those IP mask/changing softwares [02:11] resizt0r: i would be connecting this unit to a known good, and simple connection that is not expectin the machine to do anything [02:12] well, to my router [02:12] which is a cisco e3200 [02:12] plug in another router thats not online and see if it gets an IP.. remove the router from the equation by trying another one [02:13] i'll just remove the router [02:13] how about that [02:13] modem > pc [02:13] resizt0r: i dont know your modem.. my modem wouldnt workk like that with linux [02:14] it's also a cisco [02:14] resizt0r: the brand is not the issue [02:14] well the only other router i had i gave away last week [02:14] resizt0r: if i had another machine there to test with, i might go that way [02:14] i've connected many pc's to my modem without the router [02:14] resizt0r: then, just know that whatever IP masking services you have setup or configured in whatever way on teh router *could* be causing an issue [02:15] when i first moved here and didnt have any equipment [02:15] resizt0r: i have too, and sometimes, it doesnt work [02:15] i dont have any masking services or anything running atm [02:15] im gonna reboot into a liveusb and test it out with no router [02:16] after pulling the power cord [02:16] yes [02:16] full power down [02:16] pull power cord [02:16] direct connection [02:16] brb [02:27] so the liveusb is working great without the router attached [02:27] i also unplugged fully [02:28] which means the root of this problem must be the router [02:39] well [02:40] not sure what happened [02:40] but it works [02:40] i did a hard reset on my router [04:56] hi [04:57] hi [04:57] anyone there [05:00] im here [05:00] hi [05:01] I wanted to connect my xubuntu to internet using pppoe [05:01] how can i do it? [05:02] yikes I have yet to use ppoe however i assume the settings would be in the "Network Manager" in the top right hand side near the clock. [05:03] ok it lookes like they are not [05:03] yeah i found it but it dooes not connect to internet [05:03] does clone mac address in DSL change my mac add [05:04] http://askubuntu.com/questions/83869/setting-up-a-pppoe-connection-in-ubuntu [05:04] thanks for that ! [05:19] hi, does anyone know how to modify the auto-shutoff settings for when a computer gets too hot? [05:35] hi, does anyone know how to modify the auto-shutoff settings for when a computer gets too hot? [05:49] I didn't even know such a setting was available. [07:06] ASDFGHJKL;' [07:06] + [07:07] oops, sorry about that [07:11] Hello all, whenever I maximize a window it does not maximize al the way [07:11] I believe am using 13.10 [07:11] It is rather unusual [07:13] I suppose 1 in the morning is not the time to ask this question? [07:16] Monkeytoe: Are you a xubuntu dev? [07:20] lol, you can ask at anytime. someone may not be awake to answer ;) === Guest40081 is now known as ponbiki [08:28] hello there!! [08:31] greetings [08:40] I have this problem ! someone can help me? http://oi41.tinypic.com/2z3td76.jpg === Guest57295 is now known as koegs === koegs is now known as Guest62042 [08:50] nait: looks like you need to install boot repair [08:51] nait: http://www.howtogeek.com/114884/ [08:58] nyRednek ok :) [08:58] nait: that might fix your issue [08:58] nait: but no guarantees === Guest62042 is now known as koegs [08:59] nyRednek I'll try :s [08:59] nait: if not you should be able to do so from the live dvd/usb you used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_the_LiveCD_terminal [09:04] elfy, can i run xubuntu-live cd 12.04 via terminal?? [09:05] no - you need to boot with it [09:21] nait: I'd go with boot repair first - you can install that via the livecd - if that doesn't work for you - and it might, do it the old way in the wiki [09:28] nait: what elfy said [11:00] sup people === map is now known as Guest327 [12:24] Hi, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2194128 thoughts? [14:48] I installed Xubuntu desktop over Lubuntu, but I couldn't find a way to remove lubuntu [14:53] xubuntu460 there is no easy way of doing that, the easiest way to have a clean system is to do a clean install, else you can browse http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/lubuntu-desktop and compare it agains http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/xubuntu-desktop then remove the parts that only concern to lubuntu, this a fine work that can take a whole lot of time [15:02] lubuntu uses lxde components. [15:02] Maybe that'll help with the package search [15:02] Oh, and openbox for the Window Manager. === Guest46896 is now known as Duderino222 [16:16] anyone know off hand how to change your ip ? [16:16] internal or external? [16:17] what ever the router see's [16:18] external: just disconnect/reconnect if you dont have a fixed IP [16:19] im not sure what this hotspot uses [16:20] they offer 30 mins of free internet and then cut you off. so i change my mac adress every 30 mins to get an extra 30 ... but it goes alot slower than the intial connection [16:20] so its not your IP you want to change but MAC.... [16:21] IP is something they give you.... you dont HAVE it [16:21] well i change the mac with macchanger and its fine. i just think im getting slower speeds cause of the previous IP i used is the same im using with the different mac [16:21] oh [16:21] sorry networking isn't my thing :P [16:22] np [16:22] i'd love to learn it but don't know where to start. [16:22] are u using ubuntu? [16:22] xubuntu [16:23] but yeah :p [16:23] well.... then check wikis in ubuntu webspace or more general, go to tldp.org [16:23] youll find everything you need there [16:25] yeah i think i have their pdf. its the linux handbook that they offer for free. same title [16:25] they have a couple of these "books". they are pretty good at giving overview and detailed knowledge [16:26] !rute [16:26] documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com [16:26] Has anyone had issues with kworker wrecking havoc on their mouse/touchpad functionality? [16:27] awesome documentation there, bookmarked! === GTB3NW_AWAY is now known as GTB3NW === GTB3NW is now known as GTB3NW_AWAY [18:13] hi guys. i put my livecd on xubuntu in order to install the os on my computer but it freeezes on loading. its version 12.04 and it says xubuntu and the logo and underneath that there is a scroll going left and right.. but now it froze on the middle and nothing happens [18:13] any idea? [18:17] !md5 [18:17] To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [18:17] SocialEvil: you can verify the sum.. i would try the media on another machine if you have one handy.. then, assuming the machine can boot media, and the media is "good", move on to.. [18:17] !nomodeset [18:17] A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [18:20] is X server suppose to use like 550MB of RAM? [18:21] Pwnna: doesnt on my machine, with the drivers in use for my particular hardware.. have you looked for and applied upgrades? [18:22] intel [18:22] mesa 10git [18:22] Pwnna: an upgrade could provide a "fix".. try that first [18:22] i have the latest version.. [18:22] i have a bunch of graphics intensive applications open (2 instances of the document reader with big pdfs, 2 instances of xournal with big notes) [18:24] http://imgur.com/RRz6iiv [18:26] holstein, i wanted to reinstal it cause i get the black screen that the article sais about.. then i do what they say for the nomodeset .. but i get an error hub_port_status failed err= -71 any idea ? [18:27] SocialEvil: i would test the media on another machine.. i would test other media on the machine [18:27] holstein, no other machine :( my father is doing this in another country [18:27] SocialEvil: then, confirm the md5, and recreate the media. try another iso.. 13.10 for example [18:37] holstein, thanks [18:45] Hi all! I would like to access my desktop from another device. I would also like to be able to choose the resolution at connection like RDP. Also I would like to be able to connect with different users. Do you have any Idea? VNC doesn't seems fit my need! [18:47] teamvewier or splashtop are easy [20:05] hi I'm new to using xubuntu 13.10, my computer goes to black screen and completely freezes. ctl-alt-F1 does not bring up terminal. only way to recover is to power down and power up again. I feel like I'm using Windows again!! [20:05] xubuntu346: you are using windows? [20:06] oh.. nm.. i see.. xubuntu346, what caused this? [20:07] I don't know. it runs fine for a couple hours, then I walk away and the screen goes black and I cannot get back into my computer. I thought maybe it was my screen, but I can't ssh in either. it likes the whole operating system freezes [20:07] xubuntu346: are you up to date with upgrades? [20:08] i'm not sure. I only installed it a week ago [20:08] xubuntu346: in a terminal.. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and reboot and see if you see the issue [20:09] okay i will try. is this a known issue? [20:09] xubuntu346: no.. its not a global "everyone is experiencing this" bug, if thats what you are asking [20:09] xubuntu346: many things can be causing *just* you to be experiencing this.. [20:09] i'm using Xubuntu 13.10 [20:10] xubuntu346: lets start with the upgrades and proceed from there [20:10] xubuntu346: on any version of any os that the vendor of your hardware has not expressedly encouraged you to run on that hardware, you could run into issues [20:18] it is booting to my desktop, but the desktop is completely unresponsive [20:19] xubuntu346: after upgrading? and rebooting? [20:19] i couldn't do that yet [20:19] xubuntu346: it was like this with windows? .. are you sure its not a hardware problem? [20:19] xubuntu346: you will want to do that first.. upgrade [20:20] yeah i can't get to terminal [20:20] i would boot up and try a TTY right off [20:20] i wouldnt even login in the gui [20:21] I'm not sure what you mean, recovery mode? [20:23] so how do i just boot right to a shell without gui? [20:24] i would like to try this to rule out the desktop as the source of the problem [20:25] xubuntu346: i would just not login in teh GUI and try a TTY [20:25] !tty [20:25] To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login). To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution [20:25] xubuntu346: then, i would try tapping shift at boot and go for older kernels if they are present or the recovery mode [20:26] xubuntu346: i would also load up a live CD and test the hardware.. i would test the hard drive and memory [20:26] xubuntu346: if the live enviroment works fine, and the hard drive shows errors, you will not "Fix" that with software [20:30] gotcha i will try live cd [21:01] this is probably off topice, but has anyone ever had or does have the razer kraken 7.1 USB headset? if so, or not, does anyone know if you can get them working on ubuntu ? [21:03] or is there a generic set of instructions to get a usb audio device to play sound ? I was wondering if I would have to write any programs which I wouldnt mind if i had to and someone could point me in the right direction === Noskcaj10 is now known as Noskcaj === GTB3NW_AWAY is now known as GTB3NW [22:11] Hi Everyone, Can somebody tell me how to use KWin on Xubuntu? [22:12] linux, that doesn't make sense; if you want to run kwin, you probably want to go ahead and simply use kde [22:13] I just wanted to know if it's possible. [22:14] it should be possible to get it running under xubuntu. [22:14] Because KDE doesn't have that quality themes then other enviroments [22:39] Can anyone advise me whether running do-release-upgrade to go up from Xubuntu 12.20 to 13.04 is a good idea or not? I'm having a bunch of issues with 12.20 (X being unable to start on its own, etc.) [22:40] you must be talking about 12.10 [22:40] well generally speaking it should be fine, but upgrades are never risk-free [22:40] Oops, yeah sorry [22:41] do a backup before you do it [22:41] ochosi, It's the tossup between "maybe it'll fix my problems" and "maybe it'll make them worse" :/ [22:41] have you tried a live-session from a usb stick in 13.04? [22:41] and anyway, why not directly go to 13.10 which is the latest release? [22:41] Right now I have to run "sudo chmod ug-s /tmp/.X11-unix" and then "startx", because currently the machine just boots to TTY1 and can't startX without the chmod [22:41] ochosi, I tried to boot a 13.10 live-session from USB and had no luck getting that to actually boot. [22:42] so what's the matter with your computer? :p [22:42] ochosi, it's falling apart apparently! [22:42] hehe [22:42] ...it's taken me almost two days to get Xubuntu installed and running :-/ [22:42] yeah, but have you figured out what's the culprit? [22:43] for why X doesn't start? [22:43] yeah [22:44] Nope! It worked on first boot, installed proprietary AMD drivers, and it hasn't worked normally since then [22:45] switch back to the open drivers then? [22:46] tried that and it didn't let X boot again. I've clearly got some issue, but I don't know what it is :/ [22:48] LordNed: you can start to look at logs [22:49] e.g. /var/log/Xorg.0.log [22:52] ochosi, I will give that a shot as soon as I have it powered up again, thanks [22:52] np [22:52] and good luck [22:55] does anybody know how to change to auto-login through the command prompt [22:56] xubuntu346: you have to go and edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf with superuser/admin rights (e.g. "sudo nano...") [22:58] [SeatDefaults] autologin-guest=false autologin-user=frank autologin-user-timeout=0 autologin-session=lightdm-autologin greeter-session=lightdm-gtk-greeter user-session=xubuntu [22:59] so it looks like i'm already setup for it, but it keeps asking for a password [23:02] user frank is already setup for autologin [23:02] but it keeps asking me for a password, and then on top of that when I do type it in it doesn't log me in [23:03] ochosi, is there a reason I have Xorg.1.log and Xorg.0.log? (I have two GPU's in the machine) [23:03] LordNed, the logs just rotate in that way; bigger number is older log [23:03] LordNed, so basically you can have even more, and that's normal [23:05] knome, thanks! [23:06] http://hastebin.com/vuficadoti.vhdl anyone see anything out of the unusual in my Xorg log that would cause it to not boot unless I chmod ug-s /tmp/.X11-unix each boot? [23:09] LordNed: no, to be frank i can't [23:10] i also don't know what /tmp/.X11-unix does [23:10] One google post suggests "Re-emerging gnome-power-manager and hal with the acpi and laptop USE flags enabled seems to have solved this problem..." [23:11] Should I fiddle with noacpi / nolapic?