[01:05] <dbc254_> in kmail I have folders with items I can't see. What changed?
[01:06] <dbc254_> One folder has 24 items in it, but I can only see 2!?!?!
[01:31] <jarkko_> i am using kubuntu and kde, anyone noticed desktop crashing that you lost the taskbar?
[01:37] <snath> After a failed upgrade of kubuntu, I did a reinstall with 13.10.  Now KDE seems to be working very differently.  How can I go back to the functionality that I am comfortable with?
[01:38] <unicodesnowman> snath: what do you mean by "working very differently"?
[01:39] <snath> windows no longer have minimize, maximize and close buttons.
[01:39] <snath> There's a wierd sort of landing screen.  The taskbar is radically different
[01:40] <snath> There's no tabs on the taskbar for running programs
[01:41] <snath> Iwould like to go back to the old style interface of a few years ago
[02:58] <valorie> snath: I think you have a kwin problem perhaps
[02:59] <valorie> my windows all have min/max/close buttons
[02:59] <valorie> not sure what you mean by landing screen, but the changes have been incremental over the years
[02:59] <valorie> nothing radically different
[03:01] <snath> It's radically different
[03:01] <snath> I wound up going from 11.10 to 13.10
[03:02] <Walzmyn> snath did you keep your /home directory when you upgraded or did you wipe you drive?
[03:02] <snath> I copied it off and restored it
[03:03] <valorie> did you rename your .kde folder?
[03:03] <valorie> always a good idea to do that, at least
[03:03] <valorie> and move back in stuff you do still want
[03:04] <Walzmyn> if your ~/.kde folder was kept intact, there shouldn't be much different
[03:04] <snath> It was.  Things are really whacked now
[03:05] <snath> I don't know a lot about configuring KDE, just that it's very configurable
[03:06] <snath> Is there a cookbook somewhere for going back to the look of KDE 3?
[03:06] <Walzmyn> snath: try renaming your .kde directory and then logout/ back in. That'll put you on the default. See how that works for you
[03:06] <valorie> keeping the same .kde folder over that big of upgrade is pretty chancy though
[03:07] <valorie> better to just move in what you might want, one thing at a time
[03:07] <Walzmyn> right. I had to do that one time because I could never find what was broken on my system
[03:12] <snath> ok, I'll give that a try
[03:21] <chris______> Hi, I am trying to add /usr/local/lib to the ld,  I added the line /usr/local/lib to the ld.so.conf, then called sudo ldconfig and there was no output, however when compiling my project it still can't find the libraries in /usr/local/lib ?
[03:24] <chris______> sudo ldconfig -v actually lists my folder and the libraries in it.  Why would it say cannot be found when compiling?
[03:59] <sakang> when will see 4.11.4 ?
[04:02] <sakang> or are they waiting for 4.11.5?  But why 4.12RC in precise?
[04:16] <snath> ok, tried moving .kde out of the way.  This desktop is still screwed
[04:24] <snath> I think it's about time to bail on Ubuntu and install Fedora. or even CentOS
[04:24] <teacher1> Hello, first time using IRC ..
[04:33] <snath> you're here that's a start
[04:38] <James0r> installed qtcurve and trying to apply a theme but the window decoration for the theme won't show up. instead it looks like a default windows dec is used.
[04:38] <James0r> but the correct windows dec is previewed under QtCurve in the windows dec screen
[04:47] <frank1_> who knows how to get wifi working   for hp f4500 series printer?
[04:48] <frank1_> have installed hplip  aready
[06:30] <cazub> helloooo
[06:30] <cazub> hello?
[06:31] <cazub> can anyone help with wifi out of the box issues. I have no internet connection on that PC which means no ndiswrapper, no gcc, no make
[06:35] <cazub> well this worked about as well as wifi in 13.10
[06:35] <jarkko_> lol
[06:35] <jarkko_> what about wifi on kubuntu?
[06:35] <jarkko_> i have a card that has better driver in 3.8 series than newer
[06:35] <jarkko_> is it normal that you see usb things disconnect on dmesg?
[06:58] <rendstar> Hi. How do I change the default plasma theme in 13.10?
[08:26] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:11] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[10:26] <sledge> hey
[10:26] <sledge> you guys know how to safely erase an SD card
[12:13] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[12:50] <alvin> sledge: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb where sdb is your SD card. Run as root and quit after a while, or give a 'count' argument the size of the drive. It might shorten the lifespan, because you're writing to it (but not too much)
[12:51] <alvin> about shortening the lifespan. In essence, you just flip all the bits to zero. No recovery possible after that.
[13:08] <yossarianuk> hi - why does dd'ing the iso to USB not work for UEFI?
[13:11] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk, do you have usb boot enabled in uefi /
[13:19] <yossarianuk> BluesKaj: yes
[13:19] <yossarianuk> if I use the usb creator app it works
[13:19] <yossarianuk> just dd it doesn;t
[13:26] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk, usb creator probly creates a boot image , dd just copies it as is , afaik
[13:33] <yossarianuk> ok cheers
[17:19] <dario_> list!
[17:19] <dario_> list
[17:19] <dario_> \list
[17:57] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[18:30] <marcellux> hi. is it a known issue that KDE IM Contacts does not support video nor calls?
[19:33] <xerox_alto> hello community how do i set up a dualboot with 2 kubuntu distros and LVM with encryption for each? what grub config do i need?
[20:20] <Doki_Doki> Hello dudes
[20:20] <Doki_Doki> Any one using a wii mote?
[20:34] <Doki_Doki> hello?
[20:34] <genii> Doki_Doki: My guess is that probably no one is, that's why there's no response :)
[20:35] <Doki_Doki> genii: ahh ok
[20:35] <Doki_Doki> genii: do you know how to see if a key is recognized?
[20:37] <lordievader> Doki_Doki: You can use xev for that.
[20:38] <Doki_Doki> it only shows the mouse movement :S
[20:38] <Doki_Doki> maybe I don't know how to use it..
[20:40] <lordievader> Doki_Doki: Put your mouse in the little window and type something on the keyboard, you should see stuff fly by in the terminal.
[20:41] <Doki_Doki> I see..
[20:41] <Doki_Doki> thanks lordievader
[20:42] <lordievader> Doki_Doki: ;)
[20:44] <Doki_Doki> No luck...
[20:44] <Doki_Doki> http://i.imgur.com/u6ErUFN.png
[20:44] <Doki_Doki> wmgui recognizes what I type
[20:44] <Doki_Doki> but not ''kubuntu''
[20:44] <Doki_Doki> don't know why
[20:44] <Doki_Doki> :/
[20:45] <lordievader> Doki_Doki: The wii mote probably doesn't speak to X.
[20:48] <Doki_Doki> lordievader: :(
[20:48] <lordievader> Doki_Doki: Note: ^ is just a guess.
[20:52] <MangaKaDenza> question
[20:52] <MangaKaDenza> why doesn't ubuntu use 3.12.* kernels yet?
[20:52] <genii> MangaKaDenza: Trusty will come with 3.12
[20:52] <MangaKaDenza> Ah...
[20:53] <lordievader> MangaKaDenza: I'm running 3.12: Linux ebon-hawk 3.12.0-7-generic #15-Ubuntu SMP Sun Dec 8 23:39:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:53] <MangaKaDenza> I mean by default
[20:53] <lordievader> MangaKaDenza: And yes, I'm running Trusty ;)
[20:53] <MangaKaDenza> because I for one run 3.13rc
[20:53] <MangaKaDenza> because I like disregarding cautions and such
[20:53] <MangaKaDenza> :P
[20:54] <lordievader> MangaKaDenza: Like genii, Trusty will come with 3.12.x per default.
[20:54] <MangaKaDenza> ah
[20:54] <MangaKaDenza> so is it just that the 3.11's have been tested by Canonical or something a bit?
[21:06] <prx> Hi, Recently installed KDE, my headphone jack isnt working... any ideas?
[21:12] <marcellux> prx, try to open Kmix and select another master channel
[21:12] <prx> only have one
[21:12] <prx> Built-in Audio
[21:13] <prx> also i connected an HDMI cable to my TV, and sound doesn't go through, only video
[21:13] <prx> i know that sound doesnt go through HDMI because when i take speakers out of the jack, i can hear my laptop's speakers
[21:16] <qdata> you might try systemsettings -> multimedia -> audio and video settings -> audio hardware setup and choose the hardware, but under the device config tab under the second 'Device Configuration' pick playback
[21:17] <qdata> then in the drop down is a choice between analog and headphone output
[21:17] <qdata> don't know if that will work for you or not
[22:33] <Jota-MCR> Boa noite!
[23:09] <Riddell> 4.12 is out! kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.12