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airurandoafternoon14:56
airurandowishing you all an enjoyable festive season!14:56
zmoylan-lenhi14:59
zmoylan-lenall crimbo shopping sorted?14:59
airurandojust about15:01
airurandowhat about yourself zmoylan-len15:02
zmoylan-lenbeing athiest means i save a fortune on crimbo pressies :-)15:02
airurandoforgot about that15:03
airurandolucky you15:03
zmoylan-lenthough i am checking to see if my nephew would be interested in a rasp pi15:03
airurandoSanta is bringing one to oisin. Orla gets a laptop15:04
airurandooisin is getting a nexus 7 also15:04
zmoylan-lenodd, my nephew is also called oisin15:05
airurandoha ha15:05
airurandopopular name15:05
zmoylan-lenoisin and owen.  pretty sure it's oisin that's the geeky one15:05
airurandoyou better get that right15:06
airurando;-)15:06
zmoylan-lenah, i'll just tell my brother to hand it to the geeky one. :-)15:06
airurando:-)15:07
airurandotell me how easy/hard will it be to dual boot a new dell laptop with win8 on it?15:08
airurandoI never understood that secure boot stuff.15:08
* zmoylan-len is currently rebuilding my main media drive after accidently erasing it making dual boot work 'properly'15:09
airurandooh dear15:09
airurando:-(15:10
zmoylan-leni finally got linux installed on lenovo win 8 afflicted computer.  but it was awkward15:10
zmoylan-lenwhen i used bios it booted linux and when i used uefi it booted windows.  i followed instructions to make uefi, win8 and linux to all get along and it never booted again and erased media drive15:11
airurandohmmmm15:11
zmoylan-leni saw it as natures way of saying stop using windows.  which i only used for itunes anyway.  so have ditched windows and am now 100% linux15:12
zmoylan-leneven my mac has been cleared off to keep me away from itunes15:12
airurando:-)15:12
airurandoitunes has a hold on me also15:12
zmoylan-lenlinux has no substitute, nor android.  writing a partial replacement for own use in perl at mo.15:13
zmoylan-lenthe file shuffling part that allows you to watch a tv show on an idevice15:13
airurandoI probably won't be messing with my daughters laptop for a while so as all you have said demonstrates that dual booting is way above my skill level on newer hardware15:14
airurandohttp://www.dell.com/ie/p/inspiron-15-3521/pd15:14
airurandothat one with the core i3 processor15:15
zmoylan-leni intend to get an oxfam laptop with win7 to dual boot.   http://www.oxfamireland.org/computers/laptop-plus15:15
zmoylan-lenwin8 is deliberatly knobbled to make dual boot with linux horrible.15:16
tdr112hey airurando15:16
airurandonice zmoylan-len15:16
tdr112zmoylan-len: that happen to me15:17
airurandohi tdr11215:17
zmoylan-lencheap, high end business laptops in decent nick.  i've seen 2 so far. very nice15:17
tdr112wasted a day on it trying to get it to work , just got rid of win 8 and runing stuff in a vm15:17
zmoylan-lencan't create a vm without an install disk though15:18
tdr112hey airurando, kids going mad yet15:18
zmoylan-lenon a laptop15:18
tdr112zmoylan-len: i have a vm of vista15:18
airurandotdr112:  yip15:18
* zmoylan-len is not sure if that's better or worse than win8 :-D15:18
tdr112zmoylan-len: have not used it for 20 days, just using wine more and more15:20
zmoylan-lenitunes doesn't work in wine15:20
tdr112airurando: how goes the dojo15:20
zmoylan-lenor rather it loads, but it doesn't actually work15:20
airurandotdr112: great. on Christmas break at the moment.  Orla has taken to scratch really well.  Oisin still a bit young.15:21
tdr112airurando: Do you help out, when your off ?15:22
airurandotdr112:  as much as i can.  They are getting to a point beyond my current abilities15:27
airurandoOrla is on her own.15:28
airurandoI can help the newer folks a bit15:28
tdr112airurando: but its not chlid care, parents do hang around ?15:33
airurandoyes they do15:34
airurandoit is real good here in athy but it is early days yet15:34
airurandofrom the parents I get the impression that they are very greatful to the mentors for providing their kids with the opportunity15:35
airurandoit clashes with alot of things on a sat morning but kids and parents are picking the coder dojo over those other activities15:36
airurandoagain though it is early days15:36
airurandoas long as my kids want to go I'll support and encourage them but I won't force them15:37
airurandocrikey it is pouring rain here.15:44
zmoylan-lentrain station down south closed https://twitter.com/cybernoelie/statuses/41332572803880550415:45
airurandoaye the mother in law is trapped on the train from cobh16:04
zmoylan-lenpics of the train from cobh with debris on roof.  https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bbx9oSnIMAE3WEL.jpg16:55

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