[14:56] afternoon [14:56] wishing you all an enjoyable festive season! [14:59] hi [14:59] all crimbo shopping sorted? [15:01] just about [15:02] what about yourself zmoylan-len [15:02] being athiest means i save a fortune on crimbo pressies :-) [15:03] forgot about that [15:03] lucky you [15:03] though i am checking to see if my nephew would be interested in a rasp pi [15:04] Santa is bringing one to oisin. Orla gets a laptop [15:04] oisin is getting a nexus 7 also [15:05] odd, my nephew is also called oisin [15:05] ha ha [15:05] popular name [15:05] oisin and owen. pretty sure it's oisin that's the geeky one [15:06] you better get that right [15:06] ;-) [15:06] ah, i'll just tell my brother to hand it to the geeky one. :-) [15:07] :-) [15:08] tell me how easy/hard will it be to dual boot a new dell laptop with win8 on it? [15:08] I never understood that secure boot stuff. [15:09] * zmoylan-len is currently rebuilding my main media drive after accidently erasing it making dual boot work 'properly' [15:09] oh dear [15:10] :-( [15:10] i finally got linux installed on lenovo win 8 afflicted computer. but it was awkward [15:11] when i used bios it booted linux and when i used uefi it booted windows. i followed instructions to make uefi, win8 and linux to all get along and it never booted again and erased media drive [15:11] hmmmm [15:12] i saw it as natures way of saying stop using windows. which i only used for itunes anyway. so have ditched windows and am now 100% linux [15:12] even my mac has been cleared off to keep me away from itunes [15:12] :-) [15:12] itunes has a hold on me also [15:13] linux has no substitute, nor android. writing a partial replacement for own use in perl at mo. [15:13] the file shuffling part that allows you to watch a tv show on an idevice [15:14] I probably won't be messing with my daughters laptop for a while so as all you have said demonstrates that dual booting is way above my skill level on newer hardware [15:14] http://www.dell.com/ie/p/inspiron-15-3521/pd [15:15] that one with the core i3 processor [15:15] i intend to get an oxfam laptop with win7 to dual boot. http://www.oxfamireland.org/computers/laptop-plus [15:16] win8 is deliberatly knobbled to make dual boot with linux horrible. [15:16] hey airurando [15:16] nice zmoylan-len [15:17] zmoylan-len: that happen to me [15:17] hi tdr112 [15:17] cheap, high end business laptops in decent nick. i've seen 2 so far. very nice [15:17] wasted a day on it trying to get it to work , just got rid of win 8 and runing stuff in a vm [15:18] can't create a vm without an install disk though [15:18] hey airurando, kids going mad yet [15:18] on a laptop [15:18] zmoylan-len: i have a vm of vista [15:18] tdr112: yip [15:18] * zmoylan-len is not sure if that's better or worse than win8 :-D [15:20] zmoylan-len: have not used it for 20 days, just using wine more and more [15:20] itunes doesn't work in wine [15:20] airurando: how goes the dojo [15:20] or rather it loads, but it doesn't actually work [15:21] tdr112: great. on Christmas break at the moment. Orla has taken to scratch really well. Oisin still a bit young. [15:22] airurando: Do you help out, when your off ? [15:27] tdr112: as much as i can. They are getting to a point beyond my current abilities [15:28] Orla is on her own. [15:28] I can help the newer folks a bit [15:33] airurando: but its not chlid care, parents do hang around ? [15:34] yes they do [15:34] it is real good here in athy but it is early days yet [15:35] from the parents I get the impression that they are very greatful to the mentors for providing their kids with the opportunity [15:36] it clashes with alot of things on a sat morning but kids and parents are picking the coder dojo over those other activities [15:36] again though it is early days [15:37] as long as my kids want to go I'll support and encourage them but I won't force them [15:44] crikey it is pouring rain here. [15:45] train station down south closed https://twitter.com/cybernoelie/statuses/413325728038805504 [16:04] aye the mother in law is trapped on the train from cobh [16:55] pics of the train from cobh with debris on roof. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bbx9oSnIMAE3WEL.jpg