| ibeardslee | morning | 18:20 |
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| olly | morning | 18:40 |
| ajmitch | morning | 19:28 |
| chilts | morning | 20:26 |
| mwhudson | so part of the reason i thought a recent kernel upgrade made my system screwy | 20:39 |
| mwhudson | is that the trackpad got reenabled somehow | 20:40 |
| mwhudson | it's a thinkpad and i only use the nipple | 20:40 |
| mwhudson | so i clip the trackpad when typing and odd things happen | 20:40 |
| hads-test | Yeah I turn mine off too | 21:05 |
| chilts | I just switched my Fn and Ctrl keys on my Thinkpad ... I'm much happier as a result | 21:27 |
| chilts | I don't use the nipple or the buttons above the trackpad | 21:27 |
| mwhudson | hads-test: can you remember how? :) | 21:27 |
| mwhudson | oh there's a button for it :) | 21:28 |
| mwhudson | chilts: weirdo | 21:28 |
| chilts | wut! | 21:28 |
| mwhudson | chilts: why have a thinkpad if you don't use the nipple? :) | 21:28 |
| chilts | 'coz work paid for it :D | 21:28 |
| mwhudson | though tbh i use an external keyboard & mouse almost all the time | 21:28 |
| chilts | though I do like it | 21:28 |
| chilts | me too | 21:29 |
| chilts | it's only when I'm out and about I use the trackpad anyway | 21:29 |
| mwhudson | chilts: which do you have? | 21:29 |
| chilts | W530 | 21:29 |
| mwhudson | the trackpad is pretty rubbish on my x220 | 21:29 |
| mwhudson | even more so in ubuntu than windows iirc | 21:29 |
| chilts | there are a few things I don't like, but it seems pretty sturdy | 21:29 |
| chilts | in some ways I wish I'd gone for a lighter model, but tbh it's mostly on my desk | 21:30 |
| chilts | and 16GB RAM is nice | 21:30 |
| chilts | so that I can have a hundred or so tabs open in Firefox (and no idea what is there) | 21:30 |
| mwhudson | i'm pretty happy with mine, more ram and more pixels would be nice, but it's not at all bad for 2.5 yrs old | 21:31 |
| chilts | ah, I remember, this one is 1920x1080 which is probably why I got it | 21:32 |
| chilts | I suspect in 2.5 years time I'll still be happy with it too, so that's good to know | 21:33 |
| hads-test | mwhudson: Yeah, the button :) | 21:33 |
| hads-test | I've got a T400 which is getting on a bit, I'm impatiently waiting on my Christmas present which is a T440s, the power adapter has arrived so far. | 21:34 |
| chilts | oh, that's the other thing I hate, the power brick really is a brick | 21:35 |
| chilts | I don't know how they get away with it | 21:35 |
| hads-test | The new one is a slimmer wider brick. | 21:36 |
| hads-test | With a square jack instead of round. | 21:37 |
| hads-test | I've been waiting ages for a 14" Thinkpad with more screen real estate. Quite exciting. | 21:37 |
| mwhudson | chilts: that's what you get for buying a big thinkpad :) | 21:38 |
| mwhudson | the 60w supplies are much smaller | 21:38 |
| chilts | :/ | 21:39 |
| chilts | I'll note that for next time | 21:39 |
| chilts | I think I might try and find a replacement which is a bit more manageable | 21:39 |
| ibeardslee | we are getting the Lenovo X1 Carbons as a standard laptop for staff at the moment, getting them without Windows. | 21:46 |
| * ibeardslee has a bit of adjustment with the trackpad and buttons etc | 21:47 | |
| mwhudson | ibeardslee: was just looking at them, they seem nice | 21:47 |
| mwhudson | ibeardslee: can only be configured with 8gb ram though? | 21:47 |
| ibeardslee | down side is the 8GB fixed | 21:47 |
| hads-test | Yeah not bad but a bit limited. No built in Ethernet etc. | 21:47 |
| ibeardslee | I have heard (not confirmed) that the next iteration will have able to have 16GB. | 21:47 |
| hads-test | The T440s is a good alternative | 21:48 |
| ibeardslee | for a lot of people the wireless is good enough, and with a USB ethernet adapter they behave pretty good. | 21:48 |
| hads-test | Yeah for most people it would be fine. | 21:48 |
| G | ibeardslee: I recall (second hand) that circa 12 months ago, PXE booting was neigh-on-impossible with those USB adapters | 21:50 |
| ibeardslee | if you ask Silicon nicely you can get the Lenovos without Windows | 21:50 |
| ibeardslee | G: The only problem I had with the PXE boot while installing one yesterday was the firmware missing from the 12.04 (not 12.04.3) netboot we have setup. | 21:51 |
| ibeardslee | ended up doing a USB stick boot | 21:52 |
| ibeardslee | /install | 21:52 |
| G | ibeardslee: I think from the bug I recall seeing ended up getting fixed in the kernel, but for the life of me I can't remember when | 21:52 |
| hads-test | This is the 440 series slim brick; http://imgur.com/l8MaXN7 | 21:52 |
| G | ibeardslee: ahh good, they must've fixed it, just thought I'd mention it anyway | 21:53 |
| ibeardslee | it did the pxeboot fine, but failed with the install because of the missing firmware. | 21:54 |
| ibeardslee | BUT different usb adapter may also behave differently. | 21:54 |
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