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skaetslangasek, ping?00:10
cjwatsonlamont: FYI - the trigger's in lp:ubuntu-archive-publishing, and deployed in some path on pepo that "locate ubuntu-archive-publishing" should readily find00:22
cjwatsonanyone in ~ubuntu-archive should be able to merge stuff for you, and anyone with lp_archive@pepo can deploy00:23
cjwatsonby whichever of "bzr pull" and "bzr up" does something00:24
skaetcjwatson, hiya, would you mind turning on the freeze for alpha 1?  not seeing response from slangasek.00:31
skaetinfinity, ^ you able to help?00:33
cjwatsonsorry, about to go to bed, seriously tired.00:33
skaetunderstand,  very late there.00:33
cjwatsonnot competent to operate non-trivial machinery :)00:33
skaethopefully slangasek will pop back on soon, or inifinity can help then.    sleep well. :-)00:34
skaetstgraber, you able to help out?00:35
slangasekskaet: hi, looking now00:54
skaetthanks slangasek00:54
slangasekhmm, if someone has a tool for collating the list of packages to block in proposed-migration, I'm not finding it01:04
cjwatsonLaney and ScottK are the people to ask IME01:05
* cjwatson really falls over01:05
slangasekScottK: ^^ do you have a standard tool I can use for setting the freeze block?01:05
slangasekok, think I managed to figure something out based on the task fields; committed01:18
slangasekthis unfortunately doesn't grab kylin, since it doesn't use seeds... will grab a package list from the latest image and merge01:19
skaetJackYu, ^ check the backscroll.    Let slangasek know if you spot issues.01:42
Laneyslangasek: I have a script based on the seeded-in-ubuntu data, which comes from manifests09:04
Laneywill update the block09:04
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Laneydone09:26
xnoxLaney: commit it to ~ubuntu-release owned branches? =)09:28
Laneyoh man09:28
LaneyI'd have to give it things like help and options09:28
Laneyyou just edit the script to specify which flavours are participating now ... :(09:28
xnoxit's best to spend minutes improving something out there, then to re-invent the wheel each time =)09:29
Laneyyou've inspired me09:30
LaneyI'll do it09:30
sil2100Hello guys09:37
sil2100We wanted to release a new ubuntu-ui-toolkit for Ubuntu Touch yesterday, but it got blocked in -proposed due to the freeze09:58
sil2100Is any of the flavours using it in the Alpha? It's a Ubuntu Touch critical component and we would need to be able to land it09:59
Laneysil2100: qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin (from ubuntu-ui-toolkit) is seeded in: edubuntu: dvd ubuntu-touch: daily-preinstalled ubuntu: daily-live ubuntukylin: daily-live10:01
Laneyhttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/edubuntu.trusty/rdepends/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin10:02
highvoltageubuntu-touch stuff love creeping into edubuntu :)10:02
Laneythey deliberately got the webbrowser-app into desktop10:03
highvoltageah10:03
* sil2100 sighs10:06
sil2100I would prefer Ubuntu Touch development not being slowed down, so that we can release our stuff normally when needed10:07
sil2100Laney: is there anything that can be done in this case?10:07
LaneyYou can argue that things aren't risky for the alpha on a case-by-case basis10:11
LaneyWe made the freezes last only two days to try to get out of the way of everybody else, btw10:14
xnoxsil2100: one can spare between 24h  and 48h of freeze. And the release schedule was published long time ago, with milestone weeks in them. One doesn't get to converge (e.g. webbrowser-app in ubuntu touch, desktop, edubuntu, kylin) without co-ordinating landing.10:17
xnoxsil2100: during milestones it needs to be co-ordinated with all flavours, which is done via ubuntu release team.10:18
xnoxsil2100: as has always been the case in ubuntu.10:18
LaneyArguing case-by-case is something that everyone else has to do --- which is fair enough IMO as we have taken the first small steps towards convergance by putting webbrowser-app on desktop.10:19
LaneySo, feel free to do that. :-)10:19
xnoxsil2100: $core  gets blocked pretty much all the time by everything =) work / test against -proposed and stage more things there.10:19
xnox(granted the usual disclaimers and possible transient non-installabilities)10:20
sil2100I didn't hear anything about UITK being converged already between desktop and touch10:23
sil2100But maybe Didier did know about this10:23
Laneyhttps://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.trusty/revision/217910:25
sil2100...and so he did10:25
sil2100;)10:25
infinitysil2100: I wish people would stop propagating this myth that blocking proposed migration slows down development or prevents people from working.10:27
infinitysil2100: If it's that hard to develop or test against proposed, perhaps some processes need to be reexamined.10:27
apwif it did touch stopping libc migrating for 14 _days_ would have stopped all development for that long10:28
sil2100infinity: I think used a wrong set of words when saying this - it's not such a big deal, we can surely live without it for now, we're just eager to release a new image with the fixes included there10:29
infinitysil2100: Sure, and we made the freezes super short so these minimal inconveniences are even more minimal and less inconvenient than before.10:30
infinitysil2100: In some cases, mind you, we can unblock some stuff if the people whose images it'll land on say they don't mind.10:30
sil2100Thanks, I guess we'll just be patient10:31
sil2100The new UITK should be safe, as we tested it on desktops (automated tests through cu2d) and on touch images (manual testing + automated testing made by humans) - but as I said, it's not so urgent so that it *requires* an exception10:32
sil2100It was more like frustration regarding my lack of knowledge of this happening10:33
stgraberskaet_: just saw your ping now. I just got off a very unpleasant 6 hours turned into 10 hours flight to Europe and am off today, so if you still need me, wait till tomorrow ;)11:35
plarscjwatson, infinity: wanted to make sure you saw bug #162205314:32
plarssorry, bug #126205314:33
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1262053 in Ubuntu CD Images "Precise d-i daily installations fail with kernel version mismatch" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/126205314:33
cjwatsonnot going to have time to look today, remind me tomorrow if it isn't magically fixed14:33
plarscjwatson: np14:33
xnoxinfinity: cjwatson: doko: boost uploaded with python-paste split into a separate package, targetted at universe. please new it into universe & gccxml can go into universe then as well.15:10
infinityxnox: You might want to fix that upload.15:13
xnoxinfinity: yeah =/15:13
xnoxnoticed.15:13
xnoxinfinity: didn't do matching mpi upload at all....15:14
infinityxnox: Well, you failed to split it. :P15:14
infinityxnox: Anyhow, no need to ping people about stuff like this, component-mismatches will tell us the good news.15:15
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argeshi. can I have a package rejected please? iproute for R/P/Q, I found a _very_ minor regression and I'm working on a proper fix for it.21:04
slangasekarges: done21:28
argesslangasek: thanks21:30

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