skaet | slangasek, ping? | 00:10 |
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cjwatson | lamont: FYI - the trigger's in lp:ubuntu-archive-publishing, and deployed in some path on pepo that "locate ubuntu-archive-publishing" should readily find | 00:22 |
cjwatson | anyone in ~ubuntu-archive should be able to merge stuff for you, and anyone with lp_archive@pepo can deploy | 00:23 |
cjwatson | by whichever of "bzr pull" and "bzr up" does something | 00:24 |
skaet | cjwatson, hiya, would you mind turning on the freeze for alpha 1? not seeing response from slangasek. | 00:31 |
skaet | infinity, ^ you able to help? | 00:33 |
cjwatson | sorry, about to go to bed, seriously tired. | 00:33 |
skaet | understand, very late there. | 00:33 |
cjwatson | not competent to operate non-trivial machinery :) | 00:33 |
skaet | hopefully slangasek will pop back on soon, or inifinity can help then. sleep well. :-) | 00:34 |
skaet | stgraber, you able to help out? | 00:35 |
slangasek | skaet: hi, looking now | 00:54 |
skaet | thanks slangasek | 00:54 |
slangasek | hmm, if someone has a tool for collating the list of packages to block in proposed-migration, I'm not finding it | 01:04 |
cjwatson | Laney and ScottK are the people to ask IME | 01:05 |
* cjwatson really falls over | 01:05 | |
slangasek | ScottK: ^^ do you have a standard tool I can use for setting the freeze block? | 01:05 |
slangasek | ok, think I managed to figure something out based on the task fields; committed | 01:18 |
slangasek | this unfortunately doesn't grab kylin, since it doesn't use seeds... will grab a package list from the latest image and merge | 01:19 |
skaet | JackYu, ^ check the backscroll. Let slangasek know if you spot issues. | 01:42 |
Laney | slangasek: I have a script based on the seeded-in-ubuntu data, which comes from manifests | 09:04 |
Laney | will update the block | 09:04 |
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Laney | done | 09:26 |
xnox | Laney: commit it to ~ubuntu-release owned branches? =) | 09:28 |
Laney | oh man | 09:28 |
Laney | I'd have to give it things like help and options | 09:28 |
Laney | you just edit the script to specify which flavours are participating now ... :( | 09:28 |
xnox | it's best to spend minutes improving something out there, then to re-invent the wheel each time =) | 09:29 |
Laney | you've inspired me | 09:30 |
Laney | I'll do it | 09:30 |
sil2100 | Hello guys | 09:37 |
sil2100 | We wanted to release a new ubuntu-ui-toolkit for Ubuntu Touch yesterday, but it got blocked in -proposed due to the freeze | 09:58 |
sil2100 | Is any of the flavours using it in the Alpha? It's a Ubuntu Touch critical component and we would need to be able to land it | 09:59 |
Laney | sil2100: qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin (from ubuntu-ui-toolkit) is seeded in: edubuntu: dvd ubuntu-touch: daily-preinstalled ubuntu: daily-live ubuntukylin: daily-live | 10:01 |
Laney | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/edubuntu.trusty/rdepends/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin | 10:02 |
highvoltage | ubuntu-touch stuff love creeping into edubuntu :) | 10:02 |
Laney | they deliberately got the webbrowser-app into desktop | 10:03 |
highvoltage | ah | 10:03 |
* sil2100 sighs | 10:06 | |
sil2100 | I would prefer Ubuntu Touch development not being slowed down, so that we can release our stuff normally when needed | 10:07 |
sil2100 | Laney: is there anything that can be done in this case? | 10:07 |
Laney | You can argue that things aren't risky for the alpha on a case-by-case basis | 10:11 |
Laney | We made the freezes last only two days to try to get out of the way of everybody else, btw | 10:14 |
xnox | sil2100: one can spare between 24h and 48h of freeze. And the release schedule was published long time ago, with milestone weeks in them. One doesn't get to converge (e.g. webbrowser-app in ubuntu touch, desktop, edubuntu, kylin) without co-ordinating landing. | 10:17 |
xnox | sil2100: during milestones it needs to be co-ordinated with all flavours, which is done via ubuntu release team. | 10:18 |
xnox | sil2100: as has always been the case in ubuntu. | 10:18 |
Laney | Arguing case-by-case is something that everyone else has to do --- which is fair enough IMO as we have taken the first small steps towards convergance by putting webbrowser-app on desktop. | 10:19 |
Laney | So, feel free to do that. :-) | 10:19 |
xnox | sil2100: $core gets blocked pretty much all the time by everything =) work / test against -proposed and stage more things there. | 10:19 |
xnox | (granted the usual disclaimers and possible transient non-installabilities) | 10:20 |
sil2100 | I didn't hear anything about UITK being converged already between desktop and touch | 10:23 |
sil2100 | But maybe Didier did know about this | 10:23 |
Laney | https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.trusty/revision/2179 | 10:25 |
sil2100 | ...and so he did | 10:25 |
sil2100 | ;) | 10:25 |
infinity | sil2100: I wish people would stop propagating this myth that blocking proposed migration slows down development or prevents people from working. | 10:27 |
infinity | sil2100: If it's that hard to develop or test against proposed, perhaps some processes need to be reexamined. | 10:27 |
apw | if it did touch stopping libc migrating for 14 _days_ would have stopped all development for that long | 10:28 |
sil2100 | infinity: I think used a wrong set of words when saying this - it's not such a big deal, we can surely live without it for now, we're just eager to release a new image with the fixes included there | 10:29 |
infinity | sil2100: Sure, and we made the freezes super short so these minimal inconveniences are even more minimal and less inconvenient than before. | 10:30 |
infinity | sil2100: In some cases, mind you, we can unblock some stuff if the people whose images it'll land on say they don't mind. | 10:30 |
sil2100 | Thanks, I guess we'll just be patient | 10:31 |
sil2100 | The new UITK should be safe, as we tested it on desktops (automated tests through cu2d) and on touch images (manual testing + automated testing made by humans) - but as I said, it's not so urgent so that it *requires* an exception | 10:32 |
sil2100 | It was more like frustration regarding my lack of knowledge of this happening | 10:33 |
stgraber | skaet_: just saw your ping now. I just got off a very unpleasant 6 hours turned into 10 hours flight to Europe and am off today, so if you still need me, wait till tomorrow ;) | 11:35 |
plars | cjwatson, infinity: wanted to make sure you saw bug #1622053 | 14:32 |
plars | sorry, bug #1262053 | 14:33 |
ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1262053 in Ubuntu CD Images "Precise d-i daily installations fail with kernel version mismatch" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1262053 | 14:33 |
cjwatson | not going to have time to look today, remind me tomorrow if it isn't magically fixed | 14:33 |
plars | cjwatson: np | 14:33 |
xnox | infinity: cjwatson: doko: boost uploaded with python-paste split into a separate package, targetted at universe. please new it into universe & gccxml can go into universe then as well. | 15:10 |
infinity | xnox: You might want to fix that upload. | 15:13 |
xnox | infinity: yeah =/ | 15:13 |
xnox | noticed. | 15:13 |
xnox | infinity: didn't do matching mpi upload at all.... | 15:14 |
infinity | xnox: Well, you failed to split it. :P | 15:14 |
infinity | xnox: Anyhow, no need to ping people about stuff like this, component-mismatches will tell us the good news. | 15:15 |
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arges | hi. can I have a package rejected please? iproute for R/P/Q, I found a _very_ minor regression and I'm working on a proper fix for it. | 21:04 |
slangasek | arges: done | 21:28 |
arges | slangasek: thanks | 21:30 |
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