[01:03] <Gaming4JC> Hello, I got the idea that my webhost Ubuntu Server doesn't have enough space for e.g. the uploads folder. Is it possible to have a folder accessible to the main server while actually uploading to the second server? If so what program/method would you guys suggest?
[01:12] <jrwren> Gaming4JC: are you looking for a network filesystem?  NFS?
[01:13] <sarnold> nfs? cifs? ceph? nbd? iscsi? s3 or similar "object" storage?
[01:13] <Gaming4JC> jrwren: perhaps. My idea is to have a website to provide package files for a distro, however I can't mirror them all on one server since the HDD is too small.
[01:13] <Gaming4JC> so I wanted to break it up by having one of the biggest folders on another server, while still acessible for anyone downloading
[01:13] <Gaming4JC> from the main url.
[01:13] <jrwren> Gaming4JC: if it is just web, use a CDN
[01:14] <Gaming4JC> right but I'm too cheap for paying for a CDN, I'd rather make my own :D
[01:28] <Gaming4JC> sarnold: jrwren: NFS + remote mounting should do the trick, thanks for the tip guys :)
[01:29] <sarnold> Gaming4JC: cool :) have fun!
[07:53] <mattcen> Hi all. I'm trying to debug a running cupsd instance with gdb (I want to check it's calling a specific function). I've tried installing cups-dbg, followed by cups-dbgsym (from ddebs.ubuntu.com), but no matter how invoke gdb, It says it can't find debugging symbols for /usr/sbin/cupsd. Any ideas?
[07:53] <sarnold> does it need to be gdb? ltrace or latrace may be easier
[07:54] <mattcen> I've never heard of either of them
[07:55] <mattcen> They appear not to be available on Lucid (yes, I realise I'm dealing with a really old OS, please don't judge; it'll be going away in a couple of months)
[07:55] <mattcen> Oh nevermind, I wasn't looking hard enough
[07:56] <sarnold> mattcen: latrace perhaps not, I only found out about it a few weeks back; but ltrace is as old as the hills..
[07:57] <mattcen> Doesn't look like it's giving my anything useful
[07:58] <mattcen> "unexpected breakpoint" followed by "Child exited"
[07:58] <sarnold> !
[07:58] <sarnold> well that's strange
[07:58] <mattcen> Either way, in order to inspect the contents of the binaries I need to be able to load the symbols, and that's what appears to be failing
[07:59] <mattcen> Keep in mind this is a running instance; it may behave differently if I started a new instance
[08:00] <sarnold> right :/
[08:01] <mattcen> Oh dear. Cups forks into the background, and it's not letting me follow the process (if I start a new cups instance that is)
[08:02] <mattcen> So yeah, new ideas appreciated...
[09:51] <pjetr> Hi, a bit of a noob question. I've removed ruby 1.8 and installed 2.0 by compiling it from sources. The command ruby still points to the old /usr/bin/ruby instead of /usr/local/bin/ruby
[09:51] <pjetr> how do I update this?
[10:04] <pjetr> okay, and could anybody help me rephrase that so that I get results when I google?
[10:20] <jamespage> zul, need a +1 for backporting psutil - need >= 0.6.1 for neutron in icehouse
[10:20] <jamespage> zul, raising a MP to version on the package right now
[10:38] <yolanda> jamespage, is rabbitmq-server for grizzly working for you?
[10:38] <jamespage> yolanda, yes
[10:38] <yolanda> i used cloud:precise-grizzly as source, but i get this error
[10:39] <yolanda> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6593527/
[10:39] <jamespage> yolanda, why are you using that on the source for rabbitmq-server? its not  in the cloud archive
[10:41] <yolanda> did you ouse same source?
[10:41] <yolanda> oh, just set that setting generally in the deployment
[10:41] <yolanda> not specially for rabbitmq, sorry
[10:41] <yolanda> rabbit version is Installed: 2.7.1-0ubuntu4
[10:53] <jamespage> zul, https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/ceilometer/fixups-december-master/+merge/199438
[10:53] <jamespage> yolanda, I suspect that is some sort of other problem - where are you testing?
[10:54] <jamespage> yolanda, rabbitmq does funny things when dns/ip's don't resolve correctly
[10:54] <yolanda>  jamespage, just trying to setup an openstack environment to test active-active
[10:54] <yolanda> but zone 2 stopped working today, switched to zone 1 and saw these errors
[10:54] <jamespage> yolanda, where not what :-)
[12:02] <zetheroo> !webmin
[12:03] <zetheroo> I am wondering if there is any more specifics relating to this issue with webmin from the Official Ubuntu camp .. !?
[12:16] <rbasak> zetheroo: I'm not sure that anybody in the "Ubuntu camp" actually uses or develops webmin.
[12:17] <rbasak> zetheroo: so if you use webmin, you quite severely limit the number of people who might understand the situation and be able to help you if you get stuck.
[12:18] <rbasak> zetheroo: however, it's all free software, right? So there's nothing to stop you from using it.
[12:19] <jamespage> zul, golly the neutron unit test suite takes along time to run!
[12:19] <rbasak> Or if there's a separate group who can help you with Ubuntu Server and webmin, then that works, too. I'm not just sure that group exists; they're certainly not here.
[12:22] <cfhowlett> webmin is no longer recommended.  consider you options.
[12:29] <zul> jamespage:  more tests more awesomeness
[12:30] <jamespage> zul, I'm trying to get the test suite to a point where we can gate on it again
[12:31] <zul> jamespage:  ack
[12:31] <jamespage> zul, almost have the ml2 stuff working - that's my pre-christmas objective
[12:34] <zetheroo>  rbasak: I do use it .. but I am using it very carefully because I am wary of what Ubuntu is talking about when it says the above ..
[12:36] <rbasak> zetheroo: you can use it, but just be aware that there are not many people who can help you if you turn out to need help, and nobody knows how well it works. Also, if you do ask for help, please be sure to let people know that you're using webmin, so you don't waste their time, since they're just going to get confused about the state of your system and misadvise you on that basis anyway.
[12:37] <jamespage> zul, why would the waitress unit tests not run in a package build?
[12:38] <zul> jamespage:  i dont remember right now still waking up :)
[12:38] <zetheroo> rbasak: sure, of course. Just to be clear though, I am not asking for help so much as I am asking if anyone knows the details behind the message above ...
[12:38] <zul> jamespage:  i think it tries to access a webpage to scrape it
[12:40] <yolanda> jamespage, at the moment, send the MP for charmhelpers: https://code.launchpad.net/~yolanda.robla/charm-helpers/rabbitmq_ha/+merge/199453
[13:32] <bgardner> zetheroo: The last time I investigated this, the major difference was where webmin expects to find config files & what the correct methods to read or update them are vs where Ubuntu places them.
[13:33] <bgardner> zetheroo: My conclusion was to listen to ubottu and walk away from webmin.  :P  I liked webmin, but the risk is not worth the reward.
[14:33] <zetheroo> bgardner: ok, tks
[14:47] <zetheroo> is there a GUI for mdadm ?
[14:55] <pablo_> Is there anyone with knowledge of Ubuntu AMI for Amazon?
[15:03] <Shockwave> hi people!
[15:03] <Shockwave> help me with install openaudit please
[15:03] <Shockwave> iḿ downlod in the server but I canot install in server ubuntu
[15:03] <Shockwave> is very complicated for me
[15:11] <hallyn_> zul: so what is the status of libvirt 1.2.0 for trusty?
[15:12] <zul> hallyn_:  im going to pound it out today
[15:14] <hallyn_> zul: oh, and the commit manoj wanted is in 1.2.0, so no extra work actually needed there.
[15:14] <hallyn_> cool, thanks
[15:17] <zul> jamespage:  ping got a second?
[15:17] <jamespage> zul, not right now
[15:17] <zul> jamespage:  ok ill wait
[15:19] <Shockwave> do you have tutorial for install open-audit=?
[15:29] <jamespage> zul, https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/neutron/test-fixes/+merge/199479
[15:32] <zul> jamespage:  can you send a merge request for psutil
[15:32] <zul> upstream
[15:37] <zul> hallyn_/jamespage: does this look sane to you? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6594812/
[15:39] <hallyn_> zul: no, doesn't python-libvirt need to depend on libvirt-python?
[15:40] <hallyn_> or does libvirt-bin do that? no, it can't, or at least didn't in your last version
[15:40] <zul> hallyn_:  i fixed it locally, im more worried about the conflict line
[15:40] <zul> i mean replaces line
[15:41] <zul> hallyn_:  the new libvirt-python source package, the binary package will be called python-libvirt
[15:41] <zul> so that should be ok
[15:42] <hallyn_> oh, then hold on,
[15:42] <hallyn_> i got mixed up :)
[15:43] <hallyn_> so what is going to force uers with libvirt-python installed to get upgraded to python-libvirt?
[15:43] <hallyn_> you still ned a libvirt-python package in there, empty, depending on python-libvirt, dn't you?
[15:43] <hallyn_> i'm sorry.
[15:43] <hallyn_> now i see.
[15:44] <hallyn_> zul: for the Replaces - does it actually replace some files from older libvirt-bin?
[15:44] <zul> hallyn_:  i belive so
[15:44] <hallyn_> dpkg -x and make sure :)  if not, then drop the REplaces...
[15:44] <hallyn_> and if so, don't you also need Breaks or Conflics?
[15:46] <hallyn_> i'm no expert, that's just based on my painful qemu experience :)
[15:49] <zul> hallyn_:  im not sure thats why i want jamespage's opinon as well
[15:49] <jamespage> zul, google renaming a debian package
[15:49] <jamespage> its the same principle
[15:49] <jamespage> hallyn is right
[15:51] <zul> jamespage:  but the binary package name is the same as the old one
[15:51] <jamespage> zul, one second
[15:51] <zul> jamespage: k
[15:54] <Shockwave> lokooo lokooo lokoo
[15:57] <zul> jamespage:  https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/cinder/taskflow/+merge/199488 as well
[16:00] <jamespage> zul, hows the versioning?
[16:01] <jamespage> zul, looks OK
[16:01] <jamespage> I don't think you even need the breaks bit
[16:01] <jamespage> as its not a rename; so long as libvirt has stopped outputting python-libvirt its all good
[16:02] <zul> ok cool thanks
[16:02] <jamespage> sorry - Repalces
[16:02] <jamespage> not breaks
[16:33] <zul> hallyn_:  ok i have python-libvirt buidilng fine now
[16:35] <hallyn_> and upgrading?
[16:37] <zul> yeah
[16:37] <zul> hallyn_: http://people.canonical.com/~chucks/libvirt
[16:46] <zetheroo> what will be the qemu version in 14.04?
[16:59] <hallyn_> zetheroo: probably 1.7
[16:59] <zetheroo> nice
[16:59] <hallyn_> zetheroo: that's in trusty now
[16:59] <zetheroo> ok
[17:07] <imMute> so my kernel options include "console=ttyS0,115200n8" and even though I run "dmesg -n 7", KERN_DEBUG messages aren't printed to the console - I have to run dmesg to see them.  This is not the case on my other Linux machine - what is different about Ubuntu?
[17:07] <jamespage> zul: did you ping me with a merge-proposal? I can't find it
[17:08] <jamespage> zul, also if you could review and merge https://code.launchpad.net/~james-page/ceilometer/fixups-december-master/+merge/199438 and kickoff the lab jobs that would be appreicated :-)
 jamespage:  https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/cinder/taskflow/+merge/199488 as well
[17:08] <jamespage> zul, thats it
[17:09] <jamespage> zul, approved with requirement for minor typo fix in changelog
[17:09] <zul> jamespage:  okies
[17:11] <rbasak> imMute: you're looking on your serial port, right? #ubuntu-kernel might be able to help you.
[17:50] <adam_g> jamespage, just looked at the ceilometer branches. +1
[18:02] <K4k> Hey, what's the best way to account for different hard disk naming schemes in different system manufacturers in preseed files?
[18:02] <K4k> I currently have it set "d-i partman-auto/disk string /dev/sda" but I just ran into an issue where the drives in a server a named "sdaa, sdab, sdac, etc"
[19:37] <TitoN> hi. i just got a dell r320 server and wanted to install ubuntu on it. I tried to setup a raid1 but it didnt seem to work when i did a raid1 with discs in raid mode as opposed to ahci mode and then do a software raid..... with software raid the os installs but after reboot it stops att looking for devices......anyone know what that can be?
[20:13] <TitoN> anyone here?
[20:19] <manjo> zul, will the final version of libvirt for trusty be 1.1.3++ ?
[20:20] <manjo> zul, there are a few projects that depend it being > 1.1.3
[20:21] <zul> 1.2
[20:21] <zul> mango: so yes if my math is right ;)
[20:21] <manjo> zul, can we bump that version to 1.1.3++ ?
[20:21] <manjo> ah you said 1.2
[20:22] <manjo> I kept reading it as 1.1.2 ...
[20:22] <manjo> zul thanks
[20:23] <binaryhat> i have port forwarding set on my router for ssh but i cant ssh from the outside to the server.
[20:34] <K4k> Is anyone else having trouble with the install mirrors right now?
[20:35] <K4k> I'm having a hard time believing that a netboot mirror would just up and break on a product as large as Ubuntu and I'm convinced it's my config but have no way to confirm this.
[21:25] <metasansana> How do I skip the first screen for a new install using kickstart or preseedin?
[21:25] <metasansana> The screen with the logo and the install options
[21:26] <Jinxed-> Any ideas of software that could be used a VTC conferencing node supporting multi-user VTC?
[21:29] <hallyn_> zul: ok, pkg build took forever, but python-libvirt upgrades finally worked right (how could they not with the rename :)
[21:29] <hallyn_> starting qrtn ow
[21:37] <adam_g> zul, any idea why we skip so many of these tests? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/keystone/trusty/view/head:/debian/patches/fix-ubuntu-tests.patch