[00:15] asac: and uploading LXC now === chriadam|away is now known as chriadam [02:05] ... === smilejay is now known as mirach [02:06] ... === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === vying is now known as Guest82832 [03:58] I lost keyboard in ubuntu touch Samsaung maguro . how can i fix ? [03:59] right now , i update and upgrade via adb shell === ricardodrosales is now known as ricdros [05:00] msg NickServ help === cul- is now known as cul === Namidairo`bnc is now known as Namidairo === tvoss is now known as tvoss|test === tvoss|test is now known as tvoss [06:09] hi did any one started porting ubuntu touch on any evaluation boards [06:15] i am trying to port ubuntu-touch on a evaluation board and i stucked at "Enabling a new device" column in the porting guide plz suggest me [08:33] goody [08:33] does touch have an apt-store? (pun intended :)) [08:37] Yes; the click packages. === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away === schmidtm_ is now known as schmidtm === oSoMoN_ is now known as oSoMoN [10:36] daker, ping === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [10:47] alex-abreu: pong [10:51] daker, about the tabs, ... implementing the carousel in the tabs in tricky ... tried a few approaches w/o success, it quickly becomes messy and not easily controlable (unless we put constraints) [10:51] daker, have you thought about it ? [10:51] alex-abreu: you mean the infinite loop ? [10:52] daker, yeah, ... [10:52] daker, it is tricky to get right [10:56] alex-abreu: no but i'll try [10:57] alex-abreu: one thing i just notice [10:57] daker, I'll see on my side too [10:57] yup [10:57] Uncaught TypeError: Cannot call method 'querySelectorAll' of undefined tabs.js:372 [10:57] daker, on which example? [10:57] alex-abreu: rss-reader [10:57] trunk [10:57] daker, ok, I'll have a look today [10:57] ok [10:59] alex-abreu: do you want me to file a bug? [10:59] daker, sure if you can [10:59] thx === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [11:14] alex-abreu: for some unkown reason i am not getting it now :( (Heisenbug) [11:15] daker, :) [11:15] alex-abreu: we are also missing one part listview -> tabs sync [11:16] we do have tabs -> listview sync, listview -> footer(via tabs) sync [11:32] if anyone cares for our tests succeeding: autopilot-gtk currently fails; review/approval of https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/autopilot-gtk/gtk-3.10/+merge/199437 appreciated === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk === alan_g|afk is now known as alan_g === dpm_ is now known as dpm === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [12:19] anyone around that can confirm that in img 73 in th nexus 7 you cannot install click packages? [12:25] ricmm: not that I want to annoy you, but do you think you'll have some time for https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/platform-api/test-backend/+merge/198098 this week still? [12:27] ricmm: it implements pretty much what we discussed, and tvoss already pointed out my bad C++ (and it's fixed) [12:27] mardy, ping [12:28] ricmm: so hopefully not much actual effort [12:28] Am I correct in saying Wifi does not work currently on mako on r70? Got it working on grouper with r70. [12:28] gatox: hi! I'm on holiday, but if it's a quick thing I might still help :-) [12:29] mardy, ohh no, no problem then, it's now quick, i'll ping someone else, thx anyway [12:29] fresh install on mako today and no SSIDs visible. [12:35] Anything I can do to make wifi work on mako? I'd be grateful for any tips or leads. [12:58] asac: green is *such* a wonderful color! === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:03] pitti, +1 === Namidairo is now known as Namidairo`bnc === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [14:09] pitti: :) [14:09] all that matters [14:12] asac: ♩ Gruen, ja gruen sind alle meine test cases ♪ ♫ [14:12] please record that with your guitar :) [14:28] pitti, WE'LL ALL BE JOBLESS !!! === rachelliu_ is now known as rachelliu [14:48] jhodapp, :P [14:48] ogra_, hehe [14:48] :) === dandrader is now known as dandrader|lunch === ricardodrosales is now known as ricdros === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [15:59] mandel: hey, any chance an initial API for udm will be available by mid-January? We're going to have another appdev contest, and it would be nice to encourage devs to use it [16:01] mhall119, I'm saying feb because I want to be conservative, but by goal is to have it asap, there is a lot done already here => lp:~mandel/ubuntu-download-manager/add-general-methods [16:01] mhall119, I need to implement two more objects in C++ and will move to the SDK, so in theory I'm not far away [16:04] mhall119, another contest? :p [16:04] randomcpp: yup :) [16:05] too bad I have exams from mid-jan to march D: [16:05] mandel: that sounds great, let me know when you've got docs and I'll get them on developer.u.c/api/ [16:05] a 6 week exam period? [16:05] that's pretty brutal [16:05] randomcpp: 2.5 months of exams? [16:05] end-feb actually xD [16:06] 1.5 [16:06] 1.5 month [16:06] * mhall119 was counting all of March [16:06] mhall119, will do asap, and will consider dos a priority [16:14] hello there === Johnny is now known as Guest71107 [16:15] can somebody help me [16:16] !ask [16:16] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [16:18] i want to flash my asus memo pad hd 7 but this is not listed in the "working on this devices" feed of the page, so my question is: can someone tell me if this device will be get an image for ubuntu touch for flashing my tablet? [16:19] !patience [16:19] Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/ [16:20] i want to flash my asus memo pad hd 7 but this is not listed in the "working on this devices" feed of the page, so my question is: can someone tell me if this device will be get an image for ubuntu touch for flashing my tablet? [16:21] Chipaca: ping [16:21] mhall119: in a hangout, but pong [16:21] Chipaca: I just have questions about the status of push notifications dev, if you have a few minutes after your hangout ping me back [16:21] mhall119: hangout is about push notifications :) [16:22] then I'll get up-to-date answers :) [16:23] Guest71107, your device is not listed on the Touch/Devices page, which means that unless you know how to port the device yourself, it won't work. [16:23] but there is no way t change this, to get my device at this list? [16:24] Guest71107, I don't know how you can find somebody with the right knowledge to port the device for you. [16:25] Guest71107, xda developers maybe. [16:26] for example: if i can ask the developers of touch ubuntu if they can work oon this too how can i do ths? [16:27] Guest71107, the "developers of ubuntu touch" only work on the nexus and emulator images ... you would have to find someone from the community to do a port [16:28] (the developers then can merge the changes he/she sends, but will not actively work on other arches than the nexus ones) [16:28] ok do you know someone ? [16:28] as diwic said, try the xda forums [16:29] porting to a new device usually requires the developer to actually have the device since you need to do a bunch of trial and error debugging while doing the port [16:31] ok thx bye:) [16:37] mhall119: at your service [16:42] mhall119: or not, as you wish [16:42] * Chipaca poddles off [16:42] Chipaca: now I'm on a hangout :) [16:42] will ping you in about 15 minutes [16:43] * Chipaca sees a problem with this plan [16:49] mhr3_, Looking at this with pete-woods http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/dee/trunk/view/head:/src/dee-peer.c#L1013 [16:49] mhr3_, Could we put a free function that added the g_ptr_array_unref in the idle? [16:51] tedg, no it's used in a different thread [16:51] Ah, bummer. [16:52] tedg, but the leak is micro, why do you care? [16:52] mhr3_, It happens once per search on HUD... [16:52] you create new model with each search? [16:52] Each search session. So when you start a new search. === dandrader|lunch is now known as dandrader [16:53] Not each character [16:57] tedg, well, just bug desrt to fix it :) [16:57] desrt, FIX ALL THE BUGS! [16:57] :-) [17:05] dpm_: where do I report bugs about the online documentation? [17:06] dpm_: images are missing in the layouts tutorial, for example http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/qml/sdk-1.0/UbuntuUserInterfaceToolkit.ubuntu-layouts3/ [17:06] dpm_: there are statements in there like "The layout after resizing the window width to exceed 50 GU will look as follows:" but there are no images [17:07] mhall119: ahem [17:07] timp: i think here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-api-website/ [17:09] daker: ok, thanks [17:10] dpm_, daker I reported https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-api-website/+bug/1262289 [17:10] Ubuntu bug 1262289 in Ubuntu API Website "Images are missing in Layouts API docs" [Undecided,New] [17:11] Chipaca: running lage [17:11] late [17:12] timp, sorry, just got off the phone. The best thing is to file a bug and to ping mhall119 [17:13] dpm_: ok. [17:13] mhall119: I just reported this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-api-website/+bug/1262289 [17:13] Ubuntu bug 1262289 in Ubuntu API Website "Images are missing in Layouts API docs" [Undecided,New] [17:13] dpm_: thanks [17:17] timp: thanks, known issue [17:17] Chipaca: I'm off now, if you have a minute [17:18] mhall119: i do [17:18] Chipaca: it's less important now, I was going to use it in the engineering update broadcast, but that's canceled now [17:19] Chipaca: I was mostly wondering when some initial client APIs will be available for the push notifications, so I can A) Get documentation online and B) promote it's use during the app showdown starting in January [17:19] mhall119: fwiw push server side is reaching mvp_dev, and we're working to have a dummy ping-pong on the image middle of january [17:19] mhall119: user-usable push notifications was descoped for 14.04 [17:19] mhall119: that is, for 14.04, it's only system updates that get to use it [17:20] :/ [17:20] mhall119: yes [17:20] Chipaca: what as the major concern for that? [17:22] mhall119: lack of confidence in our ability to deliver anything more given the other projects draining our time [17:22] but if it exists for system updates, what would be missing to make it unusable for apps? [17:23] mhall119: well, for one, system updates are broadcast, so they're a special use case [17:23] mhall119: also system updates don't need an appdev-facing server api [17:24] ah, ok, so it'll be a different API [17:24] mhall119: and the client-side api is much reduced, too [17:25] it'll be a subset of the api [17:25] ok, makes sense [17:25] mhall119: we're not implementing the minimum service we need to get system updates notifications pushed to the phone; we're implementing the minimum of the generic push notifications service to implement system updates [17:26] ok, so kind of line ubuntu-download-manager, system is the first use-case, then other apps [17:26] kind of *like* [17:27] yaaarp [17:27] mhall119: in any case: we want it on the image by the middle of january :) [17:29] Chipaca: well, that won't help me for the app showdown, but I understand the need for it being de-scoped [17:29] thanks for the update Chipaca === Zic is now known as Guest7180 === Guest7180 is now known as Zic [18:07] jdstrand, Updated the branch to protect against dirs with colons in them. [18:07] thanks [18:07] tedg: I'll ask sarnold to look at your merge proposal too [18:08] Cool [18:22] sil2100: once https://code.launchpad.net/~pitti/autopilot-gtk/test-improvements/+merge/199510 lands (should be every minute now), I'll need to land autopilot-gtk in trusty, it fixes the installer test crashes for jibel and also fixes the tests to run again (they are currently failing in trusty since the gtk 3.10 update) [18:23] sil2100: I understand ap-gtk was taken out of auto-landing, although it's not used on the phone? [18:23] ogra_, how do you feel about me seeding ubuntu-wallpapers for touch? [18:23] the ubuntu-art browser in system-settings isn't very useful without them [18:23] but i dont' want to add a depends, since eventually we'll have a different set of wallpapers for the devices [18:24] pitti: hello! I can land it now, let me see what happened to ap-gtk - I'm not aware of it being removed from cu2d, we also handle non-touch releases as well [18:24] sil2100: hang on, I'd like to land this remaining MP in trunk first [18:26] pitti: sure, just give me a sign once it's all ready and I'll push it :) [18:26] sil2100: I just can't edit the google docs to add it there [18:26] sil2100: sweet, thanks! [18:26] sil2100: btw, you did a really nice job this week, thank you! [18:26] sil2100: nice to see everything come together so nicely in the last week of this year [18:26] pitti: ah, right... sorry for that, but actually I guess this we can do without the spreadsheet as it's desktop-specific [18:27] pitti: thanks! I'm also really happy that we don't have any serious fire-fighting this week ;) [18:27] sil2100: right; I'd actually like it in autolanding again, if possible [18:38] sil2100: ah, it landed; so, everythign ready from my side [18:39] \o/ [18:39] Ok, spinning [18:40] sil2100: OOI, "spinning" is "run the landing scripts which create a changelog, build the source, and upload"? (just curious) [18:41] pitti: yes, it's running the cu2d build for the given component, making sure the check job passes and then confirming the changes and pressing the publish button if all is ok === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk [18:57] Does anyone know what to do when you get the executable missing dialog when trying to build the "QML Extension Library + Tabbed Touch UI" Google does not seem to know? === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [19:15] pitti: damn, it's waiting on a powerpc builder in our daily-build PPA [19:19] pitti: ok, it started now ;) [19:19] \o/ [19:36] pitti: ok, now time to press the button! Since only you made packaging changes, our policy says: "pitti's changes don't require core-dev ACKing" ;) So published! [19:36] pitti: it should appear in -proposed soon ;) [19:37] * sil2100 needs to go away now [19:37] See you around! === JamesTait is now known as Guest8956 [21:33] Hi all [21:34] I'm installing Ubuntu on my Nexus 4 using http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/install manual [21:35] Ten minuts ago I have launched `phablet-flash ubuntu-system --no-backup` and now I'm seeing the screen with Robot and question at the top: [21:35] "ROM may flash stock recovery on boot. Fix?" [21:35] What do I do? [21:37] Come on :) I'm impatient! [21:37] Show should I say No to one of many No's, or "Yes - Disable recovery flash"? [21:37] s/Show/So [21:37] sergiusens, ^ [21:42] well, I've pressed Yes [21:42] In looking at the milestone timeline, how does this work exactly? https://launchpad.net/mir/+series Are these milestones reached "when it's ready" or is it by date? (In which case, there would be a milestone released ~24th of this month) ? [21:42] OnkelTem, i think you should be using -b instead of --no-backup [21:42] cwayne: I just used what that article said [21:43] OnkelTem, yeah, i think it may be out of date since recently [21:43] I updated phablet tools today and saw this message: "WARNING:phablet-flash:--no-backup is deprecated, use --bootstrap instead" [21:43] yeah, -b and --bootstrap are the same :) [21:44] oh. gotchya :) [21:44] OnkelTem, you missed the step of unlocking your phone [21:44] sergiusens: nah, I did it [21:44] sergiusens: at least I have been doing that :) [21:44] I have Ubuntu running!!!! [21:44] Ыыыыыы [21:52] popey you there? [21:54] Wi-Fi doesn't work on Nexus 4? [21:54] I don't see networks [21:56] According to 2 days ago, it works: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArLs7UPtu-hJdDZDNWliMmV1YUJ3Zk1pQlpDdGp4VFE&usp=sharing#gid=0 [21:57] strange. When I visit Settings > WiFi I see only "Auto-join previous networks" checkbox [21:57] Also sound doesn't work [21:57] and I can't call [21:57] when I dial, I hear no sound [21:57] OnkelTem: What channel did you use to flash? [21:57] wifi works, are their any results in the indicator pulldown? [21:58] fishscene: I used this command: phablet-flash ubuntu-system --no-backup [21:58] fishscene: from this page http://www.ubuntu.com/phone/install [21:58] Can I reflash with another version? Or rather - how can I do this? [21:58] OnkelTem, thats the best version to get [21:59] wifi and sound should be working for you [21:59] can ask something, does Ubuntu Touch completely replace Android on the device or does it run on top of Android? [21:59] pmcgowan: ok, then probably I do something wrong. But I see almost nothing what I can do here [21:59] cos I am seriously considering buying a Nexus 4 and giving it a go if it removes android completely [22:00] Paladine, it does replace android, but its possible to dual boot [22:00] Paladine: As long as you understand that it is a work in progress and is seriously hampered for day-to-day use. [22:00] pmcgowan: when I drop down top bar and scroll to Network tab I see only one line: "Cellular settings...". No WiFi at all [22:00] well first of all I wouldn't want to dual boot, I would want to completely remove android [22:00] err… hampered = not fully functional as a consumer-usable OS. [22:01] secondly, so long as it can connect to wifi and make calls to start with ttya is all good for me [22:01] the same when I visit System Settings. Wifi icon leads to empty screen with that one checkbox [22:01] although I would love to customise it to make it a secure/privacy enhancing experience [22:01] OnkelTem, check this page for better instructions https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install [22:02] you should go to a trusty channel [22:02] I nearly picked up an iPhone 5S today but stopped myself at the last minute [22:02] pmcgowan: ok thank you! [22:02] sorry that other page needs updating [22:02] I need to start looking at how I can get a privacy featured device which means android/wp and iOS are all a total no [22:03] I presume things like iptables, openssl, openvpn etc can all be compiled into the rom? [22:04] Paladine: I don't think any of those are available yet for Ubuntu-Touch. [22:07] Paladine, well, by default we create a RO image, but it is possible to enable write and install any ubuntu package, you just need to be careful with updates as they use an image diff, not apt [22:08] so technically it would be feasible to install things like full disk encryption (or at least userspace encryption), iptables, openvpn etc. [22:09] pmcgowan, my thoughts are to create a fully functional device but without having to worry about 3rd party vendors (Apple, MS, Google) or Carriers (mobile and wifi) from "observing" one's activities [22:10] throw NSA in there at any point [22:10] right, much discussion on that of late [22:10] Is there a way to get an md5 sum for the different channel images? As it stand right now, I am re-pulling images whether or not I need to because I have no way of checking if the image has changed or not. [22:11] new images 99% of the time have changes - but cant you just use the system updater? [22:12] pmcgowan: I'm working on a device flashing script. One where you can easily change channels, create device backups, etc.. [22:13] I see [22:13] there is an md5sum for the image [22:13] fishscene, http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/ [22:14] Checking it out now.. [22:16] you can see how phablet-flash does it I would suspect [22:17] I should double-check that. Last time I checked, if it detects files are already downloaded, it skipped them instead of checking to see if they were updated. [22:24] fishscene, files don't get updated; they are unique [22:25] fishscene, and the hash is taken from the channel info [22:25] fishscene, you can also check udbflash == go get launchpad.net/phablet-tools/udbflash [22:25] sergiusens: Channel info? [22:26] fishscene, https://system-image.ubuntu.com/devel-proposed/maguro/index.json [22:26] fishscene, unless you mean cdimage builds [22:26] oh nice. [22:27] which should be unique as well per path === jhodapp is now known as jhodapp|afk [22:28] fishscene, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/phablet-tools/ubuntuimage/view/head:/images.go#L119 and [22:28] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/phablet-tools/ubuntuimage/view/head:/types.go [22:28] Well, here was my problem: A while back (September-ish), I was flashing my N7 once a week to get changes that were being described in notes, but I just wasn't seeing any changes. Eventually I discovered that the phablet tools saw I had downloaded an image and would keep flashing that instead of grabbing the updated image. So I worked my script to delete the local files so it would re-download, but that's not very efficient at all. [22:29] fishscene, you were probably not using image based updates? Or perhaps on the stable channel [22:29] I was using the "devel" channel I believe. [22:30] fishscene, back in september I don't think that channel existed yet :-) [22:30] fishscene, http://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/phablet-flash-in-golang/1297 and http://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/emulator-setup/1350 might interest you [22:31] I'm going to call you "Mr. Resource" [22:32] glad to help [22:34] Ok, I've just Re-flashed my Nexus 4 with `phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel trusty` command. Everything went fine but nothing really works: still No Wi-Fi, no sound, no ability to make a call. [22:34] Any ideas? [22:35] popey : Hey :) [22:38] OnkelTem, not really, pull down the network icon and ensure wifi is enabled, make sure you SIM is inserted properly, etc - everything should be working fine [22:39] pmcgowan: I don't see icon to enable/disable WiFi [22:39] Looks like now it is disabled [22:39] as it has a white cross over it's icon [22:39] enable it and it should scan some aps [22:40] pmcgowan: I do not know how to do this [22:40] Where it is done? [22:41] ok so it is decided am gonna buy a nexus 4 later this week, if I am not happy with ubuntu touch I can always run Guardian ROM until touch is a little more established [22:41] OnkelTem, you see the icons along the top of the phone, pull down from the top over the netowrk icon [22:42] you said it has a white cross? [22:42] that seems wrong [22:42] pmcgowan: ok. Now I see two icons joint - cellular and disabled wifi, big word "Network" on the next line, and "Cellular settings..." on the last line. The rest of the screen is empty [22:43] yes, small white cross to the down-right of the icon [22:43] OnkelTem, do you have a line with WiFi and a check box? [22:43] no [22:44] hmm [22:44] OnkelTem, you said this is a nexus 4? did you just purchase it? [22:44] pmcgowan, is there a working email client in the current build or would I have to add it myself and recompile? [22:44] Paladine, no email client [22:45] pmcgowan: yes, LG Nexus 4, puchased in a local store, Russia. I always get latest Google firmwares, never rooted my device and had no problems with it :) [22:45] OnkelTem, sounds like its not detecting wifi at all [22:45] yep, maybe. How to get into logs? I suspect I can use adb for that [22:45] yes [22:46] to do dmesg or something [22:46] you can look at the syslog [22:46] yep [22:46] if awe_ is still around he could advise [22:46] I'm there in the shell :) How easy [22:49] ok gnite, but will be back pmcgowan :) will be back.... dun dun duuuuun [22:50] hah great [22:50] might pick up n4 tomorrow the store up the road has some in stock according to their web site [22:50] which means I can flash it and have a play immediately :) [22:51] gnite [22:57] pmcgowan: heh, I have only 'lo' iface according to ifconfig [22:58] also, a lot of disabled ifaces: rmnet[0-7], rmnet_smix0, rmnet_usb[0-3] and sit0 [22:59] Erm.. I tried to install a package using 'apt-get install' but it failed with error: E: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/ [23:00] Why it is read-only? [23:00] pmcgowan, what's the question? [23:00] awe_: hi! It was mine [23:01] awe_: I just installed ubuntu-touch on my Nexus 4, but WiFi doesn't work. Also I can't call (I don't see anything). [23:01] I used --channel trusty [23:02] OnkelTem, did it have KitKat (4.4) installed? [23:02] 4.4.2 [23:02] if so, the problem is the new firmware and radio software are not yet compatible with Ubuntu Touch [23:02] oh [23:02] we haven't yet modified Touch to support 4.4 [23:03] I know it's possible to flash the older software to get it working... let me see if I still have the post bookmarked [23:05] awe_: if I do this, will the software be automatically upgraded when I rollback to 4.4.2? [23:05] OnkelTem, http://askubuntu.com/questions/380435/wifi-issue-on-nexus-4-16gb [23:06] OnkelTem, I don't think so...but I'm not the right person to ask. I've personally never done this [23:07] Well, anyway, I'm glad I finally tried Ubuntu Touch. [23:07] I believe 4.4.x will be supported soon [23:07] correct [23:07] then I'll retry again [23:08] thank everybody! now I'm gonna downgrade to Android :) [23:08] that's probably the easiest/safest approach === Guest8956 is now known as JamesTait === JamesTait is now known as Guest73921 === Guest73921 is now known as JamesTait [23:24] OnkelTem: you need to flash android 4.3, then flash Ubuntu Touch