| wrst | howdy howdy netritious | 00:08 |
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| Unit193 | netritious: Oh, right. Not doing a ton right now. | 00:08 |
| netritious | good morning locotn | 14:35 |
| netritious | howdy wrst :) | 14:35 |
| wrst | hey hey netritious | 14:38 |
| wrst | how are things going? | 14:38 |
| netritious | same old, same old. you? | 14:38 |
| wrst | about the same trying to get things folded up to roll a new year over | 14:39 |
| netritious | sounds like a lot of fun ;) | 14:40 |
| netritious | recently got aquainted with btrfs via some news feeds. | 15:11 |
| netritious | sounds promising | 15:12 |
| wrst | netritious: yes it does, its just way behind ZFS on BSD if you are needing a file server I see no real compelling reason to use Linux over BSD | 15:20 |
| cyberanger | I see two compelling reasons, what one knows, and oracle | 18:09 |
| wrst | cyberanger: oracle? | 18:10 |
| cyberanger | I don't like getting too close to oracle's code | 18:11 |
| wrst | the bsd and linux implementations of zfs are comletely seperate from oracle | 18:11 |
| wrst | even to the point of making the version numbers so they will never intersect | 18:11 |
| cyberanger | true, and there is now a new native version released in 2013, developed by lawrence livermore | 18:13 |
| cyberanger | I've been using ZFS on /mirror | 18:13 |
| wrst | cyberanger: under linux? | 18:13 |
| cyberanger | btrfs for / | 18:13 |
| cyberanger | and ext2 for /boot | 18:13 |
| wrst | ahh | 18:13 |
| cyberanger | yep | 18:14 |
| wrst | my thing is freenas makes it so easy for me to have a great file server without much hassle at all | 18:14 |
| cyberanger | and no-exec set in fstab | 18:15 |
| cyberanger | and with lvm2 I can expand it easily, and I can expand zfs while mounted | 18:16 |
| wrst | nice | 18:16 |
| cyberanger | but I find btrfs' force-compress to be nicer than what I've seen in zfs so far | 18:20 |
| cyberanger | netritious: did I tell you about dm-crypt and btrfs with force-compress? | 18:22 |
| wrst | I haven't used that but most of what I'm using zfs for is media files so its already compressed not a lot of use | 18:22 |
| wrst | compressed somewhat | 18:22 |
| cyberanger | there's additional benifits with crypto involved | 18:30 |
| wrst | of that I'm sure, on my home freenas box that's just not really necessary especially for family photos/videos etc | 18:45 |
| * cyberanger wonders if wrst is really sure, or just taking my word for it ;-) | 18:47 | |
| wrst | no actually have heard that | 18:47 |
| wrst | really :) | 18:47 |
| wrst | but did a lot of homework on zfs/freenas etc and still have a very limited knowledge of it | 18:47 |
| * cyberanger likes this | 18:48 | |
| cyberanger | wrst: learning crypto or just curious | 18:50 |
| wrst | curious | 18:52 |
| wrst | don't have the need... yet, or do we all have the need? | 18:52 |
| cyberanger | need or desire | 18:53 |
| wrst | considering the times we may all have the need | 18:56 |
| cyberanger | yeah, trying times, but the law itself is fighting back too now | 19:09 |
| cyberanger | gotta love case law > https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/12/historic-ruling-federal-judge-declares-nsa-mass-phone-surveillance-likely | 19:10 |
| wrst | cyberanger: that requires you to have people in power that acknowledge the constitution in the first place | 19:11 |
| cyberanger | yeah, and this means we have one more than last week | 19:11 |
| wrst | true but when many/most/all of our elected officials on use it when handy for their purposes and we keep electing them... | 19:13 |
| cyberanger | Lord Acton said it best, "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men." | 19:18 |
| cyberanger | William Pitt the Elder is a close second with "Unlimited power is apt to corrupt the minds of those who possess it" | 19:19 |
| cyberanger | I've been increasing my encryption usage, the strength of my ciphers, improving the way it's setup to minimize attack vectors | 19:25 |
| cyberanger | most are just normal for me, I can only think of two setup changes I did due to the NSA mess | 19:28 |
| wrst | well you are pretty observant of the need for that anyway | 19:34 |
| * cyberanger adjusts his tin foil hat to that compliment | 19:37 | |
| cyberanger | I try | 19:40 |
| cyberanger | it helps to have an incentive, and I have a huge one | 19:42 |
| wrst | Unit193: looks like the gnome team is making nautiuls even more useless! | 20:41 |
| Unit193 | Very likely, what now? | 20:42 |
| wrst | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/12/first-look-new-nautilus-designs | 20:43 |
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