[00:00] <Ice_Strike> ickalott Its Ubuntu Server.. Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS
[00:00] <Ice_Strike> lickalott
[00:00] <resc_user_3019> yes. at last i have partioned usnig gparted live cd . yet unsuccessful
[00:01] <lickalott> did you verify the partition before you install ubuntu?
[00:01] <resc_user_3019> yessss
[00:01] <lickalott> do you have another computer available?
[00:02] <resc_user_3019> yes
[00:02] <lickalott> can you slave in the drive (or put it in an external enclosure) to see if your windows is still there?
[00:02] <lickalott> Ice_Strike, what have you done so far?  just apt-get install?
[00:02] <salo> lickalott can't i just choose legacy mode from now on and zero my HD to install ubuntu?
[00:03] <lickalott> think so.  but I think you'll have issues trying to install windows 7 later unless you do the manual setup via ubuntu and leave some space for an ntfs partition
[00:03] <lickalott> Ice_Strike https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/avahi/0.6.30-5ubuntu2.1
[00:04] <lickalott> try the .gz
[00:04] <resc_user_3019> can i install windows 7 after ubuntu installation
[00:05] <lickalott> i'm sure, but i've never done it. again you'd have to leave some paritioned space out for ntfs for windows during install
[00:05] <Fou> shit thank you lickalott
[00:05] <resc_user_3019> i have tried it legacy mode but unsuccessful
[00:06] <salo> lickalott so you have any idea why, running on legacy, i could't get 13.10 usb to install?
[00:07] <lickalott> my wife wanted to buy me a new laptop for xmas and I told her no, because I want NOTHING to do with windows 8.  I did have a buddy that converted a laptop for a friend from 8 - 7 and it took him 4 days.  This guy is my go to guy when i don't know something, so I'm not prepared to spend that much time on a garbage OS and messed up bios
[00:07] <resc_user_3019> ok  thanks for your support
[00:07] <JonR> good evening everyone :)
[00:07] <lickalott> salo no sir
[00:07] <lickalott> worth a shot
[00:08]  * lickalott waves at JonR
[00:08] <salo> lickalott i'm in the dark here, any hints?
[00:09] <lickalott> I would just try it homey.   Is this a partitioned drive or 2 hdd's
[00:09] <JonR> I was wondering if someone might answer an easy question for you ubuntu  users? I setup a LAMP server and all it points to is the IT WORKS page. I have a user and have given permission to user and have uploaded site to user folder. However Apache (I belive it is) is not pointing to my home/username directory to pull site :)
[00:09] <memand> what seems to be the source of darkness lickalott & salo ?
[00:09] <lickalott> salo you're up
[00:10] <salo> (a sec to type)
[00:10] <JonR> I have read forums and guides but everything just says to setup permissions correctly which i think i did
[00:11] <Fou> is there another app that does mapping or shared folders ?
[00:11]  * lickalott steps to the side as he's never messed with LAMP
[00:11] <lickalott> Fou whats your end game?
[00:11] <memand> Fou: NFS?
[00:11] <JonR> lol Lickalott
[00:11] <Fou> ext3 i beleive
[00:11] <Fou> i mean right now im am using fstab right now
[00:12] <Fou> to mount everything
[00:12] <Jeruvy> JonR its probably in /var/www
[00:12] <lickalott> no no...what is you master plan with the folder sharing?  internal network only, external user access, windows - linux shares?
[00:12] <Fou> i can see it but for some reason having my torrents defaul located in that directory its gives me permission error
[00:12] <memand> JonR: I say this with all respect, but you need to go find a very basic tutorial on Apache web server :)
[00:13] <Fou> i have not issue with say plex locating  the files or directory
[00:13] <lickalott> pastebin your fstab
[00:13] <salo> memand - My goal is to end with a 13.10 / Win7 dual boot.  Current status is a newly bought pc with some sort of DEMO of Win 8.1, which i want to erradicate and replace with ubuntu. 2nd phase would be to add win7 (or 8 if 7 is impossible) as dual boot . Legacy mode won't recognize USB made with win7.iso, and 13.10 flicks to a black screen after the
[00:13] <salo>  purple logo (altough computer is still computing) - it's an MSI 1492 (GE-40) i7-4700MQ with nvidia gtx 650m. ANY help would be very appreciated
[00:13] <JonR> trust me your not hurting my feelings, i have setup and managed Centos LAMP servers no problem and your not hurting my feelings by telling me that memand.
[00:13] <Fou> it streams fine and eveything but when i have the transmission having that isuse
[00:14] <JonR> just tyring to learn here
[00:14] <JonR> :)
[00:14] <JonR> ill do some more research
[00:14] <Fou> right now its like this //192.168.1.20/hd3 /mnt/serverx cifs credentials=/root/smb/david.cred,username=david 0 0
[00:15] <lickalott> think you need a : after the ip address Fou
[00:15] <lickalott> not 100% on that though
[00:15] <Kamuela> I'm trying to get RTL8188E Wireless to work on Ubuntu 13.04. It works out of the box with 13.10
[00:15] <lickalott> and should there be a space between hd3 and /mnt?
[00:16] <Fou> that mounding it to the location /mnt/hd3 folder
[00:16] <Fou> wait i think i found out something
[00:16] <Fou> fstab mounting to ext3
[00:16] <lickalott> oh this was from your fstab
[00:16] <lickalott> gotcha
[00:16] <Fou> does it use cifs?
[00:16] <Fou> thats nire for windows
[00:16] <lickalott> should be nfs no?
[00:17] <Fou> yes ... that tells fstab to access //192.168.1.20/Tor shared folder
[00:17] <Fou> mount to
[00:17] <Fou> /mnt/hd3
[00:17] <Fou> protical cifs
[00:17] <memand> salo: Well, I have good news and bad news... Good news is that I've had that EXACT problem (I have an MSI ge-somethingother(probably a bit older)) and I found a solution... Bad news is that my solution was to not use Ubuntu.... :/
[00:17] <Fou> use password in the file location /root/smb/david.cred
[00:17] <Fou> user name david
[00:18] <lickalott> Fou you're tyring to mount a network path to /mnt/serverx right?
[00:18] <Fou> yes
[00:19] <Fou> sorry /mnt/serverx
[00:19] <Fou> I can mount it
[00:19] <Fou> it shows up on df
[00:19] <lickalott> can you manually mount it and have it show up?  i.e. sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.20/hd3 /mnt/serverx
[00:19] <memand> JonR: Fair enough, basically you have to set up apache to point to certain places on you system when it gets a request for some URL I'm not very addept in Apache and have only set it up a handfull of times, so I do not remember everything of the top of my head :)
[00:20] <lickalott> oh okay
[00:20] <lickalott> what are you trying to access it from
[00:20] <Fou> how does ubuntu mount a ext3 is that a samba protacal or something eles
[00:20] <Fou> ?
[00:20] <JonR> beleive it or not your answer helped me, im in the correct apache file i belive to edit :0
[00:20] <JonR> ill let you know
[00:20] <Fou> like insted of cifs use ext3?
[00:21] <lickalott> ext3 is the partition/FS  vs ntfs or fat
[00:21] <lickalott> looks like you need cifs for a network path
[00:21] <bekks> Fou: natively, ubuntu mounts ext3 as ext3. When mounting a samba share, the filesystem underneath doesnt matter.
[00:21] <Fou> i know its a partiont but maybe the protacal is differnet between windows and linux ?
[00:21] <Fou> ok that makes sence so then what could be the issue ?
[00:21] <memand> salo: I ended up using Arch linux wich works flawlessly... I never found out how to fix it in ubuntu, I did manage to find out that it had something to do with the graphics card though
[00:21] <lickalott> thats why i was asking.  What are you trying to access this from (or rather where is the network path coming from)
[00:22] <memand> salo: It's a laptop right?
[00:22] <salo> memand so what did you do? I'm having too much trouble understanding this BIOS / UEFI bullcrap, and how is it supposed to make things easier... isn't selecting LEGACY like choosing the "old ways"? And if so, shouldn't these hardware specs allow to make a simple ubuntu installation? Cause i'm guessing it may be a conflit with graphics or CPU (gettin
[00:22] <salo> g to the purple screen install logo, but then flicking the screen to black?)
[00:22] <Fou> u nean I can read and wrte small files
[00:22] <salo> right!
[00:22] <DarkAceZ> something is taking up all of my CPU, and my wireless is not working
[00:22] <DarkAceZ> "top" shows the command that's taking up all the CPU is "kworker/3:0" or something
[00:22] <Fou> but anything bigger then that like say i was going to DL 256 gb of data to that location is like permision error
[00:22] <lickalott> if it's windows you'll need to share out the drive/folder and possibly turn on the samba service within the OS (windows)
[00:22] <DarkAceZ> what is this? kworker is not a command according to bash
[00:22] <Kamuela> I'm using this right now http://askubuntu.com/questions/337785/wireless-not-working-on-toshiba-satellite-c55-a5281
[00:23] <lickalott> Fou are you telling or asking that?
[00:23] <Fou> asking
[00:23] <lickalott> no.
[00:23] <lickalott> a permissions issue is a permissions issue
[00:24] <Fou> ooo maybe i have to change transmission permision ?
[00:24] <lickalott> try taking the credentials line off and see if the problem persists
[00:24] <Fou> but sometime it saves and sometimes it does not
[00:24] <Fou> ok cool
[00:24] <Fou> let me do that right now
[00:25] <lickalott> i'm gonna set something up real fast to test Fou
[00:25] <_davide> Hi. Does anyone know why pprof is not part of google-perftool package in 13.10?
[00:25] <Fou> thank you so much
[00:26] <somsip> !find pprof
[00:27] <somsip> _davide: does that help in any way?
[00:27] <Fou> should i tell you the hole setip
[00:27] <_davide> apparently it's renamed to 'google-pprof'.
[00:27] <Fou> setup
[00:28] <lickalott> Fou, are the users the same on both machines?
[00:28] <memand> salo: You are having "discreete" graphics chip whitch means that it can be turned off (and hand over the everyday graphics processing to the intel integrated graphics chip) when not used to conserve power... Linux does not have native support for this so stuff can go haywhire when it's not dealt with propperly, luckily this can be done with a package/project called bumblebee by not installing any drivers for
[00:28] <memand> the nvidia chip at initial boot (so there will be no confusion as to what chip to use) and then installing bumblebee and then the nvidia drivers... Unluckily, I have no idea how to do that on ubuntu
[00:28] <Fou> oooo ... yes
[00:28] <lickalott> try this Fou - smbclient -L //192.168.1.120
[00:28] <lickalott> can you log in that way?
[00:29] <Fou> but one has a root accound on it
[00:29] <lickalott> meaning?
[00:29] <Fou> the one that is trying to mount the shared folder is a debian box
[00:30] <lickalott> but your mounting it as root?
[00:30] <Fou> give me a sec
[00:30] <Fou> yes !
[00:31] <Fou> its saying failed
[00:31] <Fou> wait 120
[00:31] <Fou> i need to change that ip lol didn't relize that
[00:31] <lickalott> mine just worked like a champ
[00:31]  * lickalott facepamls
[00:32] <Fou> it worked
[00:32] <Fou> showed me whats shared on the box
[00:32] <salo> memand - reading about it... can only find about installing bumblebee to an ALREADY installed ubuntu...
[00:32] <Fou> lickalott so after putting that command i am connected
[00:33] <Fou> or shows what is shared
[00:33] <Fou> know what ?
[00:33] <lickalott> right
[00:33] <memand> salo: If you can you should probably try booting into a shell instead of the gui environmet and from there you should uninstall the nvidia package and continue into the gui environment and continue install from there
[00:33] <lickalott> sudo mount -a
[00:33] <lickalott> Fou ^^
[00:33] <lickalott> wait...where did you change the IP?  in the fstab or on the commandline when you were running the smbclient command?
[00:34] <memand> Someone more versed in the innerworkings of the ubuntu installer can maybe tell you how to do that
[00:34] <Fou> you had a 192.168.1.120 the ip was just .20
[00:34] <Fou> but right now i did mount -a and still telling me there is an issue with the user name david
[00:34] <Fou> should i setup another user for that box ?
[00:35] <salo> memand - i'm a noob here, that sounds like a very long shot for me... big question for me is. If it doesn't work, how easily can i get back to the UEFI crap (cause unfortunately, windows 8.1 is the only thing working so far)?
[00:35] <lickalott> is the windows user and pass the same as the david user and pass on the ubuntu box?
[00:36] <Fou> well same user name differnet password for david
[00:36] <Fou> but the root has the same password
[00:36] <bekks> root is a different username...
[00:36] <lickalott> UID's are different
[00:36] <Fou> yeah i have david as a normal user and have root and another
[00:37] <lickalott> change your credentials line to show david vs root and try again
[00:37] <Fou> i was thinking maybe changing the group poicy or something
[00:37] <Fou> good idea
[00:37] <Fou> i think i may create another user ...
[00:37] <Fou> fuck it
[00:37] <IdleOne> !language | Fou
[00:37] <memand> salo: I have no idea to be honest...
[00:38] <Fou> sorry
[00:38] <Fou> wow
[00:38] <lickalott> here's a little tidbit too...  edit /etc/passwd for your user and make the group 0.  that will throw you in the root group and give you access to stuff that a normal user wouldn't
[00:38] <memand> salo: I've never dealt with UEFI before
[00:38] <lickalott> salo, I will have my buddy here tomorrow.  I can ask him if you still want help (and can wait that long)
[00:39] <Fou> what if the user is 1000?
[00:39] <lickalott> If you run an ubuntu thumbdrive with persistence you can copy over anything that you do/make when we get ubuntu working
[00:39] <lickalott> Fou, doesn't matter
[00:39] <lickalott> UID != GID
[00:39] <lickalott> if you already have david on the machine just use that
[00:40] <lickalott> KISS it
[00:40] <Fou> ok
[00:40] <lickalott> :p
[00:40] <Fou> is there a command to reload the user settings ?
[00:40] <lickalott> reload?
[00:40] <Fou> lol ok
[00:40] <ejv_> is it permissible to adjust the /etc/php.ini permissions?
[00:40] <lickalott> yes?
[00:41] <bekks> ejv_: Adjust to which permissions?
[00:41] <awambawamb> hi, where i can find help?
[00:41] <lickalott> awambawamb !ask
[00:41] <ejv_> bekks: ownership, so an unprivileged user can make changes
[00:41] <awambawamb> !ask
[00:41] <bekks> ejv_: Dont ever even think about that.
[00:41] <lickalott> lol bekks
[00:41] <ejv_> is there a "best practices" with regards to adjusting php.ini, like root:webgroup, instead of root:root
[00:42] <memand> salo: lickalott just gave an idea... If you have another computer nearby you could make a persistent thumb drive and uninstall the nvidia stuff from the gui on the machine that does not bork and then stick it in the new machine and see what happens...
[00:42] <jimi_> I can hear audio through youtube and other apps, but not skype. I've tried changing the hardware device, but none produce noise in skype. Thoughts?
[00:42] <awambawamb> sorry, it's my first time in this channel and I don't know  the rules.
[00:42] <bekks> ejv_: Best practice: ask root to adjust it for you, or you will allow everyone hacking into your webserver turning your box into a zombie node.
[00:42] <lickalott> jimi_ it's a skype thing
[00:43] <Beldar> jimi_, Are you using skype from the ubuntu repos?
[00:43] <ejv> bekks: is there any documentation available about the topic of changing php.ini, so i can read more about the pitfalls?
[00:43] <lickalott> awambawamb just ask your question homey
[00:43] <jimi_> Beldar, no, from the deb pkg on their site.
[00:43] <bekks> ejv: the point is: why dont you use your root account once to adjust it?
[00:43] <lickalott> ejv http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=853642
[00:43] <Beldar> jimi_, The repos version is better I would remove it and install from the repo and see if this fixes this.
[00:44] <ejv> root remote logins are disabled; i don't want to open root remote authentication up
[00:44] <bekks> ejv: Why would it ever be necessary to allow random users to change settings for php?
[00:44] <jimi_> Beldar, thanks
[00:44] <ejv> it wouldn't be a random group of users, a specific group
[00:44] <lickalott> Fou whats happening?
[00:44] <bekks> ejv: then how would changing the php.ini help you?
[00:44] <ejv> thank you for the link
[00:44] <Fou> sorry still messing aorund
[00:44] <bekks> ejv: sudo is your friend.
[00:44] <Fou> have to restart transmission so see if it will work
[00:44] <bekks> !sudo | ejv
[00:45] <lickalott> sudo -i ejv
[00:45] <jimi_> Beldar, I don't have it in my repos. WHat repo should I use? i have pidgin skype, and similar.. but no app skype
[00:45] <ejv> my thoughts: please don't spam me, not nice lol; my thoughts: unprivileged user logs in over SFTP using filezilla (sudo is irrelevant); downloads php.ini; makes change; uploads.
[00:45] <awambawamb> thanks. I'll be as precise as I can: I've just installed and updated ubuntu studio 13.10 and I've noticed that I can't connect to my home wifi: it keeps asking for a password. the strange thing I've noticed are: 1) all of my pc can connect to wifi, even the xubuntu netbook; 2) i don't have a wlan0 but a eth1 instead.
[00:45] <salo> memand - sounds like good advice, but that's out my league... (don't even know what persistence means). Gonna go read about it! Thx lickalott
[00:46] <Beldar> jimi_, what release and do you have, and are the partners open in software sources?
[00:46] <Beldar> hehe a very bad sentence sorry
[00:46] <lickalott> persistence is basically memory on the usb drive that allows you to write to it.  Think of it like a live cd with the ability to save your settings/data etc...
[00:47] <jimi_> Beldar, 13.10, not sure what the las tpart means
[00:47] <memand> salo: a persistant thumb drive basically installs on the usb drive using it as the main hard drive, for that reason what ever system you build up on the drive stays there across reboots (which it will not do with a normal live usb)
[00:47] <hitsujiTMO> jimi_: might be easier to just pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:48] <Beldar> jimi_, in the terminal run software-properties-gtk   2nd tab canonical partners should be checked I assume it is in that repo, if closed check it than run a update.
[00:49] <jimi_> Beldar, perfect, it was unchecked.
[00:49] <Fou> lickalott its strange ... still the same issue
[00:50] <Fou> let me go home before my phone does
[00:50] <Fou> dies
[00:50] <Beldar> jimi_, cool check it and the independent run a update and try a install again.
[00:50] <jimi_> Beldar, running install now, ty for the help
[00:50] <lickalott> take out that credentials line next time Fou.  troubleshoot in baby steps
[00:50] <Beldar> jimi_, No problem, when you open or add a repo just run a update to sync the repos.
[00:51] <Fou> well my setup is funny but im looking in to the pernision issue and look what i found
[00:51] <Fou> https://forum.transmissionbt.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4745
[00:52] <Fou> im chatting and walking home
[00:52]  * Beldar just had a tooth extracted, more fun than you should be allowed to have at the dentist.
[00:52] <jimi_> Beldar, sound works :)
[00:53] <Beldar> jimi_, cool, enjoy.
[00:53] <Fou> lickalott what do you tink
[00:54] <lickalott> reading now
[00:54] <Fou> just got hoe
[00:55] <Fou> home
[00:55] <chansia> hi
[00:55] <lickalott> hrrmmmm  maybe once mounted the permissions are being jacked due to the fstab
[00:55] <Fou> brb changing networks
[00:56] <awambawamb> also: wicd and rutilt didn't solved the problem. I wonder what it can be.
[00:56] <Fou> really
[00:56] <Turingi> I'm having some issues with crontab, detailed here: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=wZMSU1jx
[00:57] <lickalott> lemme find your fstab line again
[00:57] <hitsujiTMO> Turingi: why is there a '.' at the beginning of the paths?
[00:57] <Turingi> hitsujiTMO they're scripts
[00:57] <hitsujiTMO> and?
[00:57] <Turingi> oh, the ./ is not required inside crontab?
[00:57] <memand> awambawamb: You have to close all other network deamons (like dhcpcd etc.) for wicd to work
[00:58] <hitsujiTMO> a dot signifies the current directory.
[00:58] <jimi_> Beldar, awesome. So what is the big diff between this version and the one on their site? Like their site listed "Generic hd-.." billions of devices.... this version only listed like pulse audio
[00:58] <Beldar> jimi_, Not sure really, for a while the sites version was better.
[00:58] <hitsujiTMO> Turingi: as a user you can type /home/eric/recordings/script01 and they will run
[00:58] <Fou_> lickalott
[00:58] <Turingi> ls
[00:58] <gbear14275> Hello, I'm trying to setup a fortinet SSL VPN client and I seem to be connecting to the gateway but the sent/recieved bytes counters always remain on 0.  I'm wondering if I don't know how to route traffic through the VPN correctly but I'm not familiar with routing to know what I'm doing.  Any chance someone might be able to recommend some actions to take to test the connection.
[00:58] <Fou_> im back
[00:59] <bekks> Turingi: Inside the crontab, a full path is required due to the fact that there is no shell environment available when executing cron jobs.
[00:59] <Fou_> its only started when i setup a mapped drive
[00:59] <Turingi> hitsujiTMO oh, thanks for spotting that, now waiting a minute for cron to run again
[00:59] <lickalott> fou
[00:59] <Fou_> yes
[00:59] <awambawamb> memand thanks but it still doesn't work :\
[00:59] <lickalott> just for s's and g's replace your credentials line with defaults and see what happens
[00:59] <hitsujiTMO> Turingi: secondly. Non users don't have $PATH variables set. so they have no idea where those executables in the scripts are. you need to specify the full path for them
[00:59] <Fou_> sorry had to reconnect the vpn
[01:00] <memand> Try wicd-curses in the terminal
[01:00] <Fou_> ok cool
[01:00] <Fou_> so put nothing
[01:00] <memand> awambawamb: Try wicd-curses in the terminal
[01:00] <lickalott> no actually put "defaults"
[01:00] <Fou_> ok
[01:00] <Fou_> give me one sec ... sshing right now
[01:00] <awambawamb> memand there's something strange.... I am currently trying with wifi radar, but it keeps saying "connect" and doesn't go further. the bar is moving.... moving.... moving...
[01:00] <lickalott> so it would read //192.168.1.20/hd3 /mnt/serverx cifs default 0 0
[01:01] <Fou_> got it
[01:01] <Fou_> let me try now
[01:01] <gbear14275> I'm also not seeing the VPN when running ifconfig... should it be showing up?
[01:01] <memand> awambawamb: Try wicd-curses in the terminal
[01:01] <hitsujiTMO> Turingi: third thing is that cronjobs will be run with /bin/sh not /bin/bash so you must ensure that they are dash safe. For that the best thing to do its plonk #!/bin/sh  at the start of the scripts
[01:02] <Fou_> Permission denied
[01:02] <lickalott> that's different than what you got previously or the same?
[01:02] <Fou_> let me try to make a second .cred file hold up
[01:03] <Beldar> awambawamb, Have you named the wifi chip yet?
[01:03] <awambawamb> Beldar: 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 06)
[01:04] <Fou_> lickalott do i have the change permission on the file its self meaning the .cred file ?
[01:04] <lickalott> prob so that it can be read.
[01:05] <lickalott> make it 777 and if it works, trickle back slowly (i.e. 770, 700, 500, etc...)
[01:05] <drizzle> does anyone know a good asm tutorial
[01:05] <Beldar> awambawamb, might look here, might need a wrapper as well. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=RTL8111%2F8168%2F8411
[01:05] <lickalott> drizzle asm?
[01:05] <awambawamb> memand , wicd-curses just shut down the wireless of ubuntu studio and messe up the icon in the taskbar - probably killing the previous daemon
[01:07] <Turingi> hitsujiTMO: alright, I put absolute paths but cron is not picking them up either
[01:07] <Turingi> hitsujiTMO: also with #!/bin/sh at the top
[01:08] <hitsujiTMO> Turingi: and the script works for you with #!/bin/sh ?
[01:09] <awambawamb> Beldar , bcmwl-kernel-source is already the newest version.
[01:09] <Turingi> hitsujiTMO: yes
[01:10] <bekks> Turingi: the script itself has to use full paths too.
[01:10] <hitsujiTMO> Turingi: can you open a fresh terminal terminal
[01:10] <Turingi> bekks, hitsujiTMO: rebooting
[01:11] <bekks> Turingi: Why?!
[01:11] <gbear14275> Anyone able to spare a few pointers for configuring a VPN?  The client indicates its connected but the traffic counts remain at 0.
[01:12] <hitsujiTMO> Turingi: In a fresh Terminal type: OLD_PATH=$PATH; $PATH="";          then try running your scripts
[01:12] <bekks> hitsujiTMO: thats a neat idea for testing. noted.
[01:12] <KI7MT> because there's no porfile in play, s cron doesn't' use a shell, no profile, no env vars
[01:14] <Turingi> hitsujiTMO: did that and they still work
[01:15] <hitsujiTMO> Turingi: can you pastebin the current contents of script01
[01:17] <gbear14275> Do I have to specify routing information after establishing an SSL VPN?
[01:17] <KI7MT> A simple solution to the cron env var deal, write a simple script that you can source form your main script, and set the enbv vars that way, then . /home/cron-vat or whatever.
[01:18] <KI7MT> then your not harassed by absolute paths.
[01:18] <Turingi> hitsujiTMO, bekks: http://pastebin.com/vzHpLsZW
[01:19] <hitsujiTMO> Turingi: echo does not have an absoulte path, wget does not have an absolute path. cam01 directory does not have an absolute path
[01:19] <Turingi> a, I see
[01:20] <hitsujiTMO> date command does not have an absolute path
[01:20] <bekks> echo is a shell alias, no pathe is necessary.
[01:20] <bekks> using echo, without a redirection, is useless in crontab.
[01:20] <awambawamb> brb.
[01:21] <bekks> Turingi: date and wget need absolute paths, and echo requires a redirection in the crontab.
[01:23] <Clucker> im installing ubuntu to a seperate external hard drive-- what device do a choose for the boot loader, the external or my main drive with windows?
[01:24] <KI7MT> You could also just export path vars for wget / date etc at the top of the script for whatever apps ya need.
[01:24] <bekks> exporting vars for executables is a bad habit.
[01:24] <bekks> those paths will not change, so use full paths, instead vars.
[01:24] <hitsujiTMO> Clucker: if you want to boot it by choosing the external drive in your bios boot menu, then install it to the external drive. Installing it to the internal drive will require that drive to be connected any time you want to boot windows
[01:25] <KI7MT> ehy
[01:25] <KI7MT> why
[01:25] <bekks> KI7MT: I just explained it. :)
[01:25] <KI7MT> for may apps yes, not for files etc.
[01:25] <bekks> KI7MT: How many different implementation of "date" do you have on your system? How many different "wget" applications do you have?
[01:26] <bekks> KI7MT: for all executables, use full paths if you rely on them.
[01:26] <KI7MT> In any case, there's losts of way around the cron absolute path need
[01:26] <Clucker> hitsujiTMO: thanks, so installing it to the external would make me have to boot it from the bios every time? Is there a quicker way?
[01:26] <bekks> KI7MT: Wokarounds for the simpliest approach, agreed.
[01:27] <hitsujiTMO> Clucker: not from the bios, but from the bios boot menu. There should be a quick menu for that. so you don't have to go into the bios itself
[01:28] <Clucker> hitsujiTMO: Ok great, I imagine it will do that by itself
[01:29] <kriskropd> i need some help with pulseaduio/alsa when using .xinitrc and startx - can anyone in here help? I don't know what all is necesary in order to start the pulseaudio daemon. I though this would be enough but apparently I'm wrong '/usr/bin/start-pulseaudio-x11 & /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog &'
[01:29] <bekks> KI7MT: high class scripting: http://bnsmb.de/solaris/scriptt.html
[01:30] <chad_> anyone know why when i boot up my 2nd internal hard drive would not mount but i can mount it in gparted
[01:31] <KI7MT> bekks, :-) I didn't say I would write it that way, only that is can be easily done .. I'd source an env script, but then again, I have allot of long complex scripts that run on servers, abs paths are a nightmare when you have 100's of them.
[01:32] <bekks> KI7MT: thats the reason for using a script template. write a function testing the existance of needed binaries once, use it a hundred times.
[01:32] <hitsujiTMO> chad_: what filesystem?
[01:32] <hitsujiTMO> chad_ have you added it to fstab?
[01:33] <chad_> im in ubuntu
[01:33] <chad_> im quite new
[01:33] <chad_> i dont think so. It worked for awhile then after awhile it stoped
[01:33] <hitsujiTMO> chad_: if you want a drive to be mounted on boot, you must add an entry for it ot the /etc/fstab file
[01:34] <chad_> ahh
[01:34] <AngryNinja>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY AngryNinja Ninja_26
[01:34] <chad_> thats a great start! I should look that up
[01:34] <hitsujiTMO> chad_: can you install pastebinit so we can have a look. sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /etc/fstab
[01:35] <chad_> thats not going to give out any personal info is it?
[01:35] <hitsujiTMO> chad_: no its not
[01:35] <hitsujiTMO> chad_: that will post the fstab file, which does not contain any personal info
[01:36] <chad_> ok
[01:36] <chad_> im running it
[01:36] <hitsujiTMO> chad_: that will generate a url, can you paste that url here
[01:36] <chad_> sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /etc/fstab
[01:36] <Turingi> hitsujiTMO, bekks: thanks it works now!
[01:37] <Turingi> another sysadmin superpower gained
[01:37] <chad_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6592021/
[01:37] <bekks> Turingi: you're still learning, young padavan ;)
[01:37] <hitsujiTMO> chad_: is /dev/sdb1 the drive that is not mounting for you?
[01:38] <chad_> yes it is!
[01:38] <chad_> i had to double check lol. Coming from windows used to C: D: ect
[01:39] <hitsujiTMO> chad_: can you run this please: ls -l /mnt | pastebinit
[01:41] <chad_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6592029/
[01:41] <chad_> what are you looking for particularly?
[01:41] <hitsujiTMO> chad_ i was looking to see if the mount point exisited
[01:42] <chad_> it all worked fine till i used Gparted to split the partition. Then it would boot the 2nd part. Now i have that formated aswell with nothing on it
[01:42] <chad_> I mean it works but i get that error at startup and have to manually add it
[01:42] <hitsujiTMO> chad_: next to see if there are files in the mount point preventing you from mounting. ls -l /mnt/media_sdb1 | pastebinit
[01:43] <chad_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6592033/
[01:44] <chad_> i see that one shows whats on the drive.
[01:44] <hitsujiTMO> chad_: so the drive is mounted now?
[01:44] <chad_> it is cause i mounted it manually earlier on gparted
[01:44] <chad_> but when i restart it gives mount error
[01:45] <hitsujiTMO> chad_: ahh kk. can you run this: dmesg | pastebinit
[01:45] <chad_> should i come back after reboot when its not mounted?
[01:46] <hitsujiTMO> chad_: no, i'll look at the exact error in dmesg
[01:46] <chad_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6592039/
[01:47] <chad_> wow i wish i knew how todo this stuff
[01:47] <chad_> i am pretty good on windows been using since 95 but never knew the fine tunings
[01:47] <hitsujiTMO> chad_ you have have marked it with the wrong filessytem in fstab. can you run: sudo blkid | pastebinit
[01:48] <chad_> now why would this one want my password
[01:49] <chad_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6592060/
[01:49] <hitsujiTMO> chad_: because its running with sudo. blkid requires elevated permissions
[01:49] <chad_> ok
[01:50] <dBee_Cooper> so Ubuntu is a new world order conspiracy or what becuase freenode is zionist agenda clearly and Ubuntu uses freenode.
[01:50] <rcw2> with skype on saucy, i can make voip calls fine, but when someone types in chat, skype crashes.  is this a known bug?
[01:50] <dBee_Cooper> aye hate this world and want to jump of a cliff every day
[01:50] <hitsujiTMO> chad_: yup. yuo need to edit fstab and change the filesystem entry for /dev/sdb1 from ext4 to ntfs
[01:51] <chad_> how would i go about doing that
[01:52] <dBee_Cooper> aye need to go get drunk so aye dont jump off a cliff since clearly the agenda runs this world and ayem just a little no one and everyone of oyu either doesnt care or is with THEm.
[01:52] <dBee_Cooper> either way eyem all alone
[01:52] <hitsujiTMO> chad_: sudo sed -i 's/media_sdb1 ext4/media_sdb1 ntfs/' /etc/fstab
[01:52] <dBee_Cooper> good bye cruel world
[01:52] <chad_> later bdbee
[01:52] <onetinsoldier> dBee_Cooper: join me in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:52] <onetinsoldier> or not
[01:52] <rcw2> skype is having some conflict with vlc.  i close vlc and skype is fine.  how do i troubleshoot this
[01:53] <hitsujiTMO> rcw2: launch skype from the terminal. it should dump a trace when it crashes
[01:54] <chad_> thanks hitsuji
[01:54] <hitsujiTMO> chad_: reboot and it should auto mount again
[01:54] <SunMoonStar1> What're my options with encrypting a spreadsheet where I hold some bank information?
[01:55] <chad_> how do i know if it worked without rebooting?
[01:55] <jdownie> Can I use rdesktop to start a windows session if I don't have an X environment? I don't actually want to log in, I just want rdesktop to ensure that I have an active session so that a scheduled task runs. I kind of want to pipe the X11 stuff to /dev/null.
[01:55] <chad_> ok i'll do that in a sec
[01:55] <rcw2> hitsujiTMO, k
[01:55] <hitsujiTMO> chad_: you could try: sudo mount -a
[01:55] <chad_> whats the a stand for?
[01:56] <Bray90820> I can't seem to get my bash script running at startup
[01:56] <narothepharoh> ut jpeg imiges on a cd?
[01:56] <chad_> doesnt come up under devices in the unity folder
[01:56] <narothepharoh> whats the best program to put pictures on a cd?
[01:57] <hitsujiTMO> chad_ -a will remount any drive mentioned in fstab (unless marked as noauto)
[01:57] <chad_> ahh ok
[01:57] <chad_> i just picked up linux in easy steps today. I havnt read it yet. but i hope this chat and that book will help me
[01:57] <narothepharoh> whats the best program to put pictures on a cd?
[01:58] <chad_> ill reboot and be right back
[01:58] <steph_> anyone knows how to install a wireless driver for a Acer aspire laptop?
[01:58] <narothepharoh> whats the best program to put pictures on a cd?
[01:59] <hitsujiTMO> steph_: can you pastebin the output of lspci
[02:01] <chad_> Hey it worked!
[02:02] <chad_> thanks hitsuji
[02:02] <KI7MT> narothepharoh,  best is the one you like to use most, here's a few in a  list, it's a bit old but most are still in play: http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/03/9-good-cd-and-dvd-burning-tools-for.html
[02:02] <Bray90820> How would i get a bsh script to run at startup
[02:03] <cyberputz> i drew a blank, i havent burned a CD in 10 years. :)
[02:03] <KI7MT> Bray90820, init.d or rc.local
[02:03] <KI7MT> rc.local will only run when you log into that particular account
[02:04] <steph_> hitsujiTMO : 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Core Processor DRAM Controller (rev 02) 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) 00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset HECI Controller (rev 06) 00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset USB2 Enhanced Host Controller (rev 05) 00:1b.0 Audio device:
[02:04] <narothepharoh> whats the best program to put pictures on a cd?
[02:04] <Bray90820> KI7MT: where is rc.local located ]
[02:05] <somsip> Bray90820: /etc
[02:05] <hitsujiTMO> speph_ can you use paste.ubuntu.com to pastebin it please
[02:05] <Bray90820> Thank you
[02:05] <KI7MT> Bray90820, sri was in another channel  /etc/rc.local
[02:06] <chad_> how can i post my drive so it shows up in the devices tab?
[02:07] <steph_> hitsujiTMO ok i pasted it in pastebin
[02:07] <chad_> hey steph
[02:07] <hitsujiTMO> steph_: can you give me the link to that pastebin please
[02:07] <chad_> hitsuji just helped me with a huge problem he's awesome!
[02:08] <KI7MT> Bray90820, This has some good info on upstart: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpstartHowto
[02:08] <steph_> sorry! here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/6592105/
[02:08] <steph_> hey chad
[02:09] <chad_> got another question for anyone who understands plex
[02:09] <red_racer12> gentlemen, i have messed up? i installed ubuntu from live usb and rebooted however i dont see a grub, it just takes me back into windows
[02:10] <chad_> i have a bunch of videos that wont play on plex because not supported. Was planning on using handbreak to convert to mp4 is this my best idea?
[02:10] <hitsujiTMO> steph_: can you paste the result of: lspci -nn | grep BCM43225
[02:11] <narothepharoh> you guys all suck. i remember a time when this channel was helpful. the last three times ive been on here i cant even get a fucking answer.
[02:11] <Hassen> narothepharoh, what
[02:11] <Pici> narothepharoh: Please mind your language... there are many programs to do what you want, there is no single best one.
[02:12] <somsip> !attitude | narothepharoh
[02:12] <IdleOne> narothepharoh: Do you recall ever reading the channel guidelines?
[02:12] <varunendra> not he got plenty of answers ;P
[02:12] <chad_> i never read the guidlines but i figured it was conduct yourself without being a A$$
[02:13] <chad_> is my user name giving out any personal info?
[02:13] <Hassen> man chad_
[02:13] <Hassen> ummm...yep
[02:13] <narothepharoh> well i cant burn a jpeg image with brasero, and i cant see what im putting on cd with k3b! what does any suggest? hey at least I got a response out of u guys
[02:13] <chad_> how do i fix that
[02:14] <Pici> chad_: huh? personal info?
[02:14] <Pici> 70
[02:14] <steph_> hitsujiTMO : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6592120/
[02:14] <chad_> like some people have a email instead of ther eipaddress
[02:14] <Pici> chad_: its just an IP. Theres nothing personal about it.
[02:15] <hitsujiTMO> steph_: try: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[02:15] <Bray90820> So using rc.local didn't seem to work
[02:16] <varunendra> hitsujiTMO, has steph_ also installed the sta driver in parallel? If yes, it must be purged first.
[02:16] <chad_> ok
[02:16] <KI7MT> Bray90820, what you trying to fo?
[02:16] <KI7MT> to do ?
[02:16] <hitsujiTMO> varunendra: i dont think steph_ has install any driver
[02:17] <Bray90820> what i am trying to do is run a bash script when i login so i can slow the acceleration of my mouse pointer
[02:17] <steph_> hitsujiTMO : it doesn't find the package firmawareb43 installer
[02:17] <narothepharoh> once again thanks for nothing people, the big deal out.
[02:17] <Bray90820> I would use system setting but that doesn't go slow enough
[02:18] <munz> lol
[02:18] <hitsujiTMO> steph_: did you run that command exactly (with the '-'s)
[02:18] <steph_> yes
[02:19] <Buuyo> How can I force remove samba4 from my saucy 13.10? When I apt-get remove --purge samba4 I get an uncaught exception because I think the initial install borked all of the python scripts because my admin password was too weak. :x
[02:19] <KI7MT> Bray90820, have you tried goting through Dash >> Mouse & Touchpad and setting the sliders to slow?
[02:19] <hitsujiTMO> steph_: whats the output of: cat /etc/issue
[02:20] <Bray90820> KI7MT: that doesn't go slow enough
[02:20] <glitsj16> Bray90820: tried adding it to 'Startup Applications' ?
[02:20] <Bray90820> I tried that as well
[02:20] <varunendra> steph_, hitsujiTMO, alternatively you can install linux-firmware-nonfree (sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree). And are you connected to internet via cable or other means?
[02:20] <Buuyo> never mind that. It worked with dpkg -r. :X
[02:21] <glitsj16> Bray90820: does your script work in terminal?
[02:21] <Bray90820> when i crag it into the termianla nd hit enter it works
[02:21] <Bray90820> drag
[02:21] <steph_> hitsujiTMO Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[02:22] <KI7MT> Bray90820, ok .. I saw a post / script on this a while back let me see if I can find it again.
[02:22] <questr> One of our CMS designers just chmod'ed 777 /var and I need to repair it. unfortunately, i don't have a snapshot/backup of /var prior to the change. Anyone have any tips or tools for fixing this kind of mistake? Running ubuntu 12.04LTS.
[02:22] <somsip> Bray90820: if this is the script you're running oin rc.local, you need to be careful not to use ENVs or relative paths. Can you pastebin your script?
[02:23] <hitsujiTMO> steph_: as varunendra suggested: sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree
[02:23] <Bray90820> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ddmtUpET
[02:23] <Bray90820> somsip: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ddmtUpET
[02:23] <somsip> Bray90820: or, you could run it from .bash_login or similar
[02:23] <steph_> hitsujiTMO same thing asbefore, it is impossible to find the package
[02:23] <somsip> Bray90820: so maybe xinput needs X to be running before you can set properties on it?
[02:24] <varunendra> questr, my /var has permission 755. You may try that if it wasn't run recursively.
[02:24] <hitsujiTMO> steph_: pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:24] <Bray90820> somsip: so what should i do about that
[02:24] <hitsujiTMO> steph_: sorry, pastebin the contents of the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:24] <questr> varunendra, thanks. unfortunately he changed permissions recursively for all of /var :(
[02:25] <KI7MT> Bray90820, Here's the script, bare in mind, rc.local execution of scripts is pretty simple, but it doesn't handle errors well, so make sure the script runs properly beforehand: https://github.com/rubo77/mouse-speed
[02:25] <somsip> Bray90820: look into when xinput can be run, and find the best place to run it. Possibly .xinitrc (or whatever is used in place of that nowadays)
[02:25] <macs> hello has anybody here used a general purpose text alias creator such as Autokey on Ubuntu
[02:25] <varunendra> steph_, is your laptop in question connected to internet by any means.
[02:25] <steph_> no i<m chatting form an other laptop
[02:26] <KI7MT> xinput is in the user space, so it should run from rc.local or in xterm etc etc ..
[02:26] <hitsujiTMO> steph_: ahh no internet at all would explain it
[02:26] <Bray90820> So how should i run it
[02:26] <AirstrikeIvanov> How do I force Empathy chat client to not show groups? I want my contacts in a single unified list. (Ubuntu 12.04)
[02:27] <macs> hello has anybody here used a general purpose text alias creator such as Autokey on Ubuntu
[02:27] <questr> varunendra: one thing I've thought of is to bring up another 12.04 box and slog through fixing permissions by matching permissions on the new box. That is pretty time consuming though and I'm wondering if there might be a script out there that someone is aware of that could walk through /var and fix the perms for me.
[02:27] <hitsujiTMO> steph_: can you download this file: http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/l/linux-firmware-nonfree/linux-firmware-nonfree_1.11ubuntu2_all.deb     then copy it to the laptop and run it
[02:28] <steph_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6592164/
[02:28] <varunendra> questr, I believe there is no other way to fix it except manually changing permissions. You may use "find....-type.... -exec" command to automate some of it though.
[02:29] <glitsj16> Bray90820: in my opinion there's no need to put this kind of functionality in a system-wide loaction .. if your script has execute permissions there's no reason why it shouldn't work adding it to your 'Startup Applications'
[02:29] <questr> varunendra: sure, that's a good idea. I might try to document / script my solution so others could use it...
[02:30] <varunendra> steph_, manually downloading the linux-firmware-nonfree package as hitsujiTMO suggested should do. It has no dependencies, so should be smooth. Official link : http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/all/linux-firmware-nonfree/download
[02:30] <Bray90820> glitsj16: well why didn't it work
[02:30] <Bray90820> what kind of permissions should i put on it
[02:30] <glitsj16> Bray90820: simple chmod +x would suffice
[02:31] <Bray90820> chmod +x name of file?
[02:31] <glitsj16> Bray90820: correct, make sure you feed the chmod command the correct path to the file
[02:31] <Bray90820> yea
[02:32] <steph_> hitsujiTMO i have downlaoded it and copy it in thedesktop
[02:33] <hitsujiTMO> steph_: if you double click it, the grpahical package mananager should try to install it
[02:33] <glitsj16> Bray90820: if it's in your $PATH, you can just refer to the name when adding it to 'Startup Applications' .. or use the 'browse' function offered there
[02:33] <varunendra> steph_, just double-click to install it (or "sudo dpkg -i Desktop/linux-firmware-nonfree.....")
[02:33] <Bray90820> glitsj16: what would happen if i did "name of file chmod +x"?
[02:34] <glitsj16> Bray90820: you would get an error .. look at man chmod, it expects the proper syntax i guess
[02:34] <Bray90820> alright
[02:34] <Bray90820> anyways i will be right back
[02:35] <anternat> hi. if i run a python script(like python testscript.py) within a bash script will the codes after py script be evaluated after py script finishes its job
[02:35] <glitsj16> Bray90820: add it, logout/login and you should see if it worked
[02:36] <hitsujiTMO> anternat: of course
[02:37] <Bray90820_> I So chmod +x doesn't seem to work
[02:37] <anternat> hitsujiTMO>> i was trying to make sure if the code coming after the script would be rendered simultaneously
[02:37] <Bray90820_> or somthing is not working
[02:37] <anternat> so per your answer the answer is no...
[02:37] <glitsj16> Bray90820_: what exact command did you enter?
[02:38] <hitsujiTMO> anternat: no, it will wait for the python script to finish before continuing. you can fork it by adding a & after the command
[02:38] <anternat> thank you very muck hitsujiTMO
[02:38] <Bray90820_> chmod +x /home/aaron/Scripts/Mouse.sh
[02:39] <Bray90820_> Should i have does sudo
[02:39] <glitsj16> Bray90820_: and did that throw an error ? command looks okay if that's where it resides
[02:39] <Bray90820_> done
[02:39] <Bray90820_> There were no errors
[02:39] <glitsj16> Bray90820_: no, it's in your /home, no need for sudo
[02:40] <Bray90820_> That gave me no errors as well
[02:40] <varunendra> glitsj16, I think he does, if the script was owned by root
[02:40] <glitsj16> Bray90820_: you can check the permissions it has currently by entering 'ls -l /home/aaron/Scripts/Mouse.sh'
[02:41] <steph_> hitsujiTMo
[02:41] <glitsj16> varunendra: good point,k educational thanks
[02:41] <steph_> hitsujiTMo,
[02:41] <varunendra> glitsj16, learnt by trial & error ;P
[02:41] <steph_> i have tried it, itdoen<st work
[02:41] <Bray90820_> -rwxrwxrwx
[02:41] <glitsj16> varunendra: heh, always nice to have extra eyes in here
[02:42] <Bray90820_> glitsj16: -rwxrwxrwx
[02:42] <hitsujiTMO> steph_: can you pastebin the output of: lspci -knn
[02:43] <glitsj16> Bray90820_: yes, but that's not the full output i take it .. script has execute permissions, but as varunendra said you need to check who owns it
[02:43] <varunendra> steph_, could you follow this post and give us the link of the whole report it suggests to generate? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385
[02:43] <Bray90820_> glitsj16: -rwxrwxrwx 1 aaron aaron 157 Dec 17 20:10 /home/aaron/Scripts/Mouse.sh
[02:44] <varunendra> Bray90820_, how do you know it didn't work? Isn't it doing what it is supposed to do?
[02:44] <glitsj16> Bray90820_: looks okay to me, your user owns the file and is executable without sudo
[02:44] <steph_> hitsujiTMO http://paste.ubuntu.com/6592225/
[02:45] <Bray90820_> Well if i run it after i login it works fine but when i set it to run at statup it doesn't work
[02:45] <KI7MT> Yes, but did the script actually change the behavior of the mouse?
[02:45] <Bray90820_> KI7MT: it did
[02:45] <Bray90820_> It does everything i want
[02:45] <Bray90820_> but i just cant exacute it at statup
[02:46] <varunendra> Bray90820_, are you using /etc/rc.local? That method may sometimes fail if the operation needs to be run after a particular point of booting process.
[02:46] <Bray90820_> I tried that but it didn't work so then i set it as a normal startup program
[02:46] <jinppk> Is it possible to find out when i can expect the 3.12 kernel to be released on ubuntu 13:10?
[02:46] <KI7MT> Bray90820_, how many lines of code are in the script? It may be easier to jsut add them to your .bash_profile
[02:47] <Bray90820_> KI7MT: this is the script
[02:47] <Bray90820_> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ddmtUpET
[02:47] <KI7MT> Bray90820_, for just two lines, Id' add them to my log in profile.
[02:48] <jessica_> I need help setting up my wireless adapter
[02:48] <hitsujiTMO> steph_: you seem to have the correct driver loaded. is there still no wireless networks coming up in network manager?
[02:48] <Bray90820_> I might only end up needed the first like anyways
[02:48] <Bray90820_> line
[02:48] <KI7MT> Bray90820_, then you cna test changes easily bu just sourcing .bash_profile
[02:49] <Bray90820_> so how would i do that
[02:49] <jessica_> I've added the drivers but I keep getting ndiswrapper not found
[02:50] <KI7MT> cd ~ and edit .bash_profile .. then add the two lines to the end, save & exit, then source ~/.bash_profile
[02:50] <varunendra> hitsujiTMO, looks like steph_ couldn' install the firmware ("No such file or directory" error by dpkg)
[02:51] <KI7MT> Bray90820_, or instaed of sourcing it, just logout and log back in does the same thing.
[02:51] <glitsj16> Bray90820_: KI7MT: bray seems to need it before login .. correct? if so you could look at adding it to lightdm (or whichever login manager you use)
[02:52] <hitsujiTMO> varunendra: rereading it seems the firmware is included in the kernel
[02:52] <Bray90820_> glitsj16: atlogin
[02:52] <Bray90820_> at login
[02:53] <Bray90820_> KI7MT: where is .bash_profile located
[02:53] <varunendra> jessica_, could you please follow this post and give us the pastebin link of the report? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385
[02:54] <KI7MT> Bray90820_, in you home directory
[02:55] <Bray90820_> ok
[02:55] <varunendra> hitsujiTMO, I couldn't understand the non-English part of the paste. Does it say that it is already installed? The driver bcma would be loaded anyway, with or without the firmware.
[02:55] <Bray90820_> KI7MT: it doesn't seem to be there
[02:55] <varunendra> hitsujiTMO, and the firmware required by b43 is never included in kernel. At least not in Ubuntu.
[02:56] <glitsj16> Bray90820_: if you reference it in .bash_profile, don't forget to remove the entry you may still have in 'Startup Applications'
[02:56] <jessica_> http://pastebin.com/3uth37wX
[02:56] <hitsujiTMO> varunendra: i see
[02:56] <KI7MT> Bray90820_, /home/username/.bash_profile  .... where username is the user you want to change the profile of.   Dont forget the [.] periof infront of .bash_profile
[02:56] <Bray90820_> like i said it's not in there
[02:57] <Bray90820_> wait
[02:57] <Bray90820_> hang on
[02:57] <hitsujiTMO> steph_: did you copy the .deb file to the desktop?
[02:58] <KI7MT> Bray90820_, My bad, .bashrc .. not .bash_prifile
[02:59] <Bray90820_> There we go
[02:59] <Bray90820_> Thank you
[02:59] <steph_> varunendra ifollowed yourlink, here is the result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6592264/
[02:59] <tim`> are there recommended ways to verify the integrity of /boot/ when using LUKS root ?
[02:59] <varunendra> jessica_, how did you install the ndiswrapper driver? Link to the guide/post please ?
[02:59] <Bray90820_> KI7MT: dumb question but just add it to the bottom of the file?
[02:59] <KI7MT> Bray90820_, been working in other distro's too much sri ..
[02:59] <steph_> hitsujiTMO: i did copy the deb file on thedesktop
[03:00] <KI7MT> Bray90820_, yes, and a comment like # Options For Mouse Control  .. then add the two lines
[03:00] <Bray90820_> alright
[03:00] <Bray90820_> Is the commwent required?
[03:00] <Bray90820_> comment
[03:00] <hitsujiTMO> steph_: it lists the device as soft blocked. is there a keyboard combination to unlock it? like fn + f2?
[03:00] <KI7MT> DOnt forget the # sig in from of the comment, but do not comment out the two lines of code.
[03:01] <Bray90820_> KI7MT: yes but is the comment required
[03:01] <varunendra> hitsujiTMO, more importantly, the required drivers are all blacklisted. Looks like done by the sta driver.
[03:01] <Bray90820_> just for future reference
[03:01] <Bray90820_> i will put it in this one
[03:01] <KI7MT> Bray90820_, No, not required.
[03:01] <Bray90820_> ok
[03:01] <jessica_> i don't have the link anymore, i've been trying a lot of different things
[03:02] <scipy53> I opened my root crontab file (i.e. sudo crontab -e) and inserted "0 22 * * * pm-suspend" with a new line at the end. But it just does not execute. The command works fine normally. Any help please?
[03:02] <jessica_> varunendra_  i don't have the link anymore, i've been trying a lot of different things
[03:03] <KI7MT> Bray90820_, after saving the file, in a terminal type: source ~/.bashrc
[03:03] <varunendra> jessica_, have you also tried posting your problem on ubuntuforums? If yes, please give me the link, I'm not sure if I can solve this quickly (unless someone more experienced with ndiswrapper can help us out)
[03:03] <mechtn> hey guys
[03:03] <KI7MT> Bray90820_, you should also log out and log in to test it that well as well.
[03:04] <steph_> hitsujiTMO i had a function with windows of Fn+ F3, but it doesn<t change anything
[03:04] <mechtn> got a new dedicated server running ubuntu desktop .. only have ssh access atm.. installed xrdp via ssh but not sure how to get a gui desktop started so it shows up when i rdp to xrdp
[03:04] <glitsj16> scipy53: you need the full path to the pm-suspend command in cron, use: which pm-suspend   to get that
[03:05] <jessica_> varunendra, no I haven't posted it on ubuntuforums
[03:06] <varunendra> steph_, what does this tell us - "dpkg -l | grep bcmwl"
[03:07] <Bray90820> That didn't seem to work ether
[03:08] <KI7MT> Bray90820, I am not certain, but maybe it has to be ran after login in, and the desktop renders.
[03:08] <Bray90820> I wated till it loged in and nothing
[03:08] <KI7MT> in which case the adding to .bashrc wont do what you need either.
[03:08] <Bray90820> I want it to be run after login
[03:08] <varunendra> jessica_, I suggest you search the ubuntuforums (or the net) with keyword "ndiswrapper". I would do the same, since I am not very well versed with ndiswrapper installation. User "chili555" on ubuntuforums is very helpful with that, so I'd particularly follow his posts, and shall redo the installation if required.
[03:09] <SonikkuAmerica> jessica_, varunendra: Do we have an output of [ lspci -vnn ] that we can use to determine WHAT device is in question?
[03:09] <tim`> are there recommended ways to secure the /boot/ partition on a machine with an encrypted root filesystem?
[03:09] <SonikkuAmerica> jessica_, varunendra: By "Device" I mean "wireless adapter"
[03:09] <varunendra> SonikkuAmerica, everything useful so far is here : http://pastebin.com/3uth37wX
[03:10] <KI7MT> Bray90820, so, it would appear you that you will have to run the script after you log in.
[03:10] <steph_> varunendra http://paste.ubuntu.com/6592283/
[03:10] <scipy53> glitsj16, thanks a lot, trying now'
[03:10] <Bray90820> So running it automaticly won't work?
[03:10] <glitsj16> Bray90820: there seems to be some confusion about when you want it .. does your mouse ponter's sensitivity is too high when you are at the login screen but not yet logged in ?
[03:10] <glitsj16> scipy53: you're welcome
[03:11] <varunendra> SonikkuAmerica, jessica_ looks like a d-link adapter that is not yet natively supported.
[03:11] <Bray90820> It is to high at the login screen yes but i am trying to have it run after i log in
[03:11] <Bray90820> since i have auto login turned on
[03:11] <jessica_> SonikkuAmerica, it's a D-Link DWA-140 USB Wireless Adapter
[03:11] <Mongo44> winehq
[03:12] <jessica_> varunendra, I have done a lot of googling and I haven't been too succesful, i'm just back to where i started
[03:12] <KI7MT> Bray90820, there's one other option, you could add the GNOME's Startup Applications -- gnome-session-properties, or System -> Preferences -> Startup Applications, or the gear in the upper-right corner -> Startup Applications in Ubuntu's Unity.
[03:12] <SonikkuAmerica> jessica_: Run and pastebin [ lsmod | grep ^rt ] for me...
[03:12] <scipy53> glitsj16, yay it woked! thank you!
[03:12] <Bray90820> KI7MT: that's what i tried first
[03:13] <varunendra> steph_, you have the sta driver installed. You should purge it first (sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source). Then you may have to reboot as the sta driver doesn't get easily unloaded sometimes. See if the wifi works on next boot. If not, report back please.
[03:13] <KI7MT> Bray90820, Ahh, ok, Im 0 for 3 ... sorry mate, Im out of ideas here.
[03:13] <wad> Hi guys. If I suddenly drop off, it's because I'm having trouble with my wireless network connection.
[03:13] <Bray90820> KI7MT: hey at least you tried
[03:13] <glitsj16> scipy53: sweet, enjoy the suspending
[03:13] <SonikkuAmerica> wad: Is that what you're trying to fix?
[03:14] <varunendra> yay ! 3rd client in a row :D
[03:14] <wad> Any of you guys have any idea why one laptop would connect to a wireless network just fine, while the next one drops constantly?
[03:14] <Bray90820> if anyone else has any ideas please let me know
[03:14] <scipy53> glitsj16, yup, trying to force myself to get off the pc before midnight by suspending XD
[03:14] <wad> The Dell laptop (Ubuntu 12.10) works great. But the new Lenovo IdeaPad y510p just *hates*it.
[03:14] <wad> It's running 13.10
[03:14] <varunendra> wad, for a detailed diagnostics report : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385
[03:15] <wad> 08:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7260 (rev 73)
[03:15]  * wad clicked that link
[03:15] <sovern> I have an ASROck Z68 Extreme 3 Gen 3 with two ATI R9-270X's installed.
[03:15] <sovern> TO boot the installer I need to pass nomodeset, and it boots fine.
[03:17] <steph_> varunendra: IT WORKED! thanks alot! and to hitsujiTMO too~
[03:18] <varunendra> steph_, welcome :D. Be sure NOT to install the proprietary sta driver again :)
[03:18] <wad> varunendra, awesome script! Here's the result: http://wadhome.org/~wad/wireless-info.txt
[03:18] <SonikkuAmerica> jessica_: You still there?
[03:18] <jessica_> yes
[03:18] <jessica_> SonikkuAmerica, yes
[03:18] <varunendra> wad, thanks to "Wild Man" (ubuntuforums mod). Taking a look...
[03:18] <wad> Great!
[03:18] <SonikkuAmerica> jessica_: Run and pastebin the following in a terminal: [ lsmod | grep ^rt [
[03:19]  * wad looks at it too
[03:19] <steph_> varunendra: ok no more sta driver! good night
[03:19] <SonikkuAmerica> *]
[03:19] <tgm4883> If I need to file a bug against the Ubuntu kernel, where is the latest kernel I can install to verify it's broken?
[03:19] <jessica_> SonikkuAmerica, it didn't return anything
[03:19] <r0039> Hi Friends,
[03:20] <r0039> My name is Tien
[03:20] <r0039> Im come from Viet Nam
[03:20] <jeffrey_f> wad: are both computers in the same place?
[03:20] <wad> yes, physically next to each other.
[03:20] <SonikkuAmerica> jessica_: OK, that means we don't have to "unload" anything. Now, run [ sudo modprobe rt2800usb ]. If an error message occurs, tell me.
[03:20] <KI7MT> tgm4883, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[03:20] <wad> I do mtr on both of them, to the same server, and one works great, the other loses 90% of the packets
[03:20] <r0039> I have a issues with PAM authentication after apt-get upgrade yesterday
[03:20] <wad> Right now I'm actually on the flakey laptop, but it's not dying on me.
[03:21] <tgm4883> KI7MT, thank you, I for some reason fail at searching tonight
[03:21] <wad> (My wife is using the other one.)
[03:21] <jessica_> SonikkuAmerica, I ran it and there was no output
[03:21] <SonikkuAmerica> Good. Now reboot and give your wireless a try.
[03:21] <wad> I just asked my wife to start using her connection, so maybe that will kill mine off (as it usually does)
[03:21] <SonikkuAmerica> jessica_: ^
[03:22] <jeffrey_f> wad: separate the computers by at least 6 feet.  you may be getting signal splash.  See if that works.
[03:22] <wad> Ah, interesting!
[03:23] <wad> Okay, my wife and I are now separated.
[03:23] <KI7MT> lol
[03:23] <wad> Well, we're still together, but you know what I mean.
[03:23] <jeffrey_f> also, keep cell and cordless phones at least 6 feet from your laptops....I've had similar issues with my cell being next to the computer
[03:23] <KI7MT> Don tell her that :-)
[03:23] <mechtn> got a new dedicated server running ubuntu desktop .. only have ssh access atm.. installed xrdp via ssh but not sure how to get a gui desktop started so it shows up when i rdp to xrdp
[03:24] <wad> Okay. Yeah, our cellphones are off. (We're in mexico for our anniversary)
[03:24] <r0039> When I login ubuntu 12.04, login okie. After I run command: su root, it alert: tienphan@November-ain:~$ su root
[03:24] <r0039> Password:
[03:24] <r0039> su: Authentication failure
[03:24] <r0039> tienphan@November-ain:~$ sudo -s
[03:24] <r0039> sudo: must be setuid root
[03:24] <wad> The vacation would be better if both of our laptops could reliably access the internet. :)
[03:24] <SonikkuAmerica> r0039: Ummm... that isn't how sudo is run.
[03:24] <SonikkuAmerica> !sudo | r0039
[03:25] <tgm4883> wad, your vacation would be better if you could both access the internet? We have a very different view of vacations with our wives
[03:25] <wad> varunendra, wow, that script is seriously amazing! Go WildMan.
[03:25] <r0039> /var/log/auth: pam_winbind [su:auth] request_wbcLogon User failed: WBC_ERR_AUTH_ERROR, PAM error PAM_USER_UNKNOWN (10)
[03:25] <varunendra> wad, the signal quality on your intel card seems too weak (25/70). Is it same (or almost same) on the other one?
[03:26] <wad> Well, after a day of snorkeling and stuff, we like to play minecraft together. Can I just say my wife is awesome?
[03:26] <wad> varunendra, I'll check. Is there a handy command to do that on her laptop?
[03:26] <KI7MT> mechtn, You proceed with RDP liek you would normally, I would however, caution against using 3D, as it's bandwidth heavy and often yields bad results, instead set: gnome-session --session=ubuntu-2d or gnome-session --session=gnome-classic if installed.
[03:26] <varunendra> wad, "iwconfig"
[03:26] <wad> ok
[03:26] <SonikkuAmerica> tgm4883: A vacation with a spouse or significant other should only be Net-ized if you want to share any ONE awesome photo of the two of you IMO... but I'm veering !ot here.
[03:27] <r0039> uhm, I'm investigating this problem. Please kindly help me.
[03:27] <wad> She has link quality of 40/70
[03:27] <wad> mine is 30/70
[03:27] <varunendra> heh, IMO, "internet" kills the advantage of being together ;)
[03:27] <KI7MT> mechtn, also here's a simple how-to: http://askubuntu.com/questions/320964/remotely-connecting-to-a-raring-ringtail-desktop-from-windows-8
[03:27] <SonikkuAmerica> r0039: Gladly. So try running another command with sudo, e.g. [ sudo apt-get update ]
[03:28] <SonikkuAmerica> r0039: What happens?
[03:28] <jessica_> SonikkuAmerica, I have rebooted and I still can not connect to wifi
[03:28] <SonikkuAmerica> jessica_: Still can't connect, hmmm?
[03:28] <varunendra> wad, that isn't very good either. But which driver is that one using? (just curious) That can be determined by "lspci -nnk | grep -A2 0280"
[03:28] <KI7MT> mechtn, it's for ringtail, but should work for 12.04 or 13.10 as well.
[03:28] <wad> ok
[03:29] <wad> (Hey, this is our 20 year anniversary! It works.)
[03:29] <jeffrey_f> jessica_: are you wired while trying to get on wireless?
[03:29]  * varunendra goes afk for a min
[03:29] <jessica_> jeffrey_f, yes
[03:30] <jeffrey_f> jessica_: have you tried disconnecting the wire and trying to connect?
[03:30] <SonikkuAmerica> jessica_: Well first disconnect from your wired link and give completely wireless a shot.
[03:30] <SonikkuAmerica> jessica_: You may need to run [ sudo modprobe rt2800usb ] again.
[03:30] <jessica_> jeffrey_f, SonikkuAmerica: I will try that
[03:31] <wad> Am I back?
[03:31]  * wad requests presence check
[03:32] <jessica_> jeffrey_f, SonikkuAmerica: I still don't get an option to connect to a wireless network
[03:32] <KI7MT> check
 tienphan@November-ain:~$ sudo apt-get install
[03:32] <r0039> sudo: must be setuid root
[03:32] <varunendra> wad, yup, and so am I
[03:32] <jeffrey_f> wad: I see ya
[03:32] <r0039> I think that the pam authenticate module having issues.
[03:32] <wad> Ah, okay. Yeah, the wireless dropped me again.
[03:32] <KI7MT> r0039, is the user you using in the sudo group ?
[03:33] <wad> She is also using iwlwifi driver.
[03:33] <r0039> yup, sudo group
[03:33] <r0039> Before I use good
[03:33] <r0039> Yesterday, I updated via command apt-get upgrade.
[03:33] <KI7MT> r0039, with you current user, try to switch users to sudo: su    .. then your pw.
[03:34] <KI7MT> r0039, if you can switch, authentication is ok.
[03:35] <jeffrey_f> I've seen jessica's issue:  Does she need the wrapper for wifi????  I don't remember the specifics  to find out IF or HOW to get it
[03:35] <r0039> KI7MT: okay, I trying
[03:35] <SonikkuAmerica> jeffrey_f: In this case it's probably just a matter of "get ndisgtk, install Windows driver."
[03:35] <varunendra> wad, do you ever get N-speeds? (higher than 54Mb/s speeds).
[03:36] <wad> Hmm
[03:37] <wad> This is my new laptop, I've spent most of my time wires, before we left on vacation, trying to get any video driver to work under Ubuntu. Haven't spent any time at all on wireless, until I get here, where all there is is wireless, and this thing has been giving lots of trouble. In short: dunno.
[03:37] <gvikaskc> it was suggested to me to use ccpd start command after reboot
[03:37] <wad> s/wires/wired/
[03:37] <schlathe> I was told by an ASUS rep that Linux is unsupported (on a laptop that ships with Ubuntu) anyone know who I should contact at Canonical about this?
[03:37] <gvikaskc> my printer now works fine...but i have to give the command every time i restart the system
[03:37] <jeffrey_f> SonikkuAmerica: I've solved this a few times, don't recall any of it
[03:37] <wad> Link Quality=23/70  Signal level=-87 dBm
[03:37] <jessica_> jeffrey_f: when i type the command [ ndiswrapper -l ] my driver is listed as installed and I have it plugged in so it's listed as present
[03:38] <gvikaskc> any suggestions where to put this command >> sudo /etc/init.d/ccpd start << so that it automatically get executed every time the system starts
[03:38] <Beldar> schlathe, Asus does not support it maybe, and no one at canonical.
[03:38] <wad> Maybe this new laptop just has a horrible antenna.
[03:38] <jeffrey_f> jessica_: by any chance, do you have a hardware switch to turn off your wireless (aka airplane switch)?
[03:38] <KI7MT> schlathe, who did you by the box from ? that's who you should contact first Id think.
[03:39] <wad> I was thinking it must be something with the driver.
[03:39] <jessica_> jeffrey_f: but when i type [ sudo modprobe ndiswrapper ] it returns "FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found."
[03:39] <jessica_> jeffrey_f: where would that switch be?
[03:39] <r0039> KI7MT: the same error
[03:39] <varunendra> wad, what is the output of - "grep -R [[:alnum:]] /sys/module/{iwlmvm,iwlwifi}/parameters" (pastebin link of course)
[03:39] <wad> Right now it's actually working okay.
[03:39] <hitsujiTMO> schlathe: whats the exact laptop?
[03:39] <schlathe> this is the laptop: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00COQK8QY/
[03:39] <KI7MT> r0039, Reboot the computer,choose recovery console and type the following commands: chown root:root /usr/bin/sudo
[03:39] <mechtn> when i tried to start a gnome session from ssh i got this - ** (gnome-session:9437): WARNING **: Cannot open display:
[03:40] <KI7MT> r0039, chmod 4755 /usr/bin/sudo
[03:40] <jeffrey_f> jessica_: Assuming a laptop, correct?  IF you have one, it should be on the case somewhere or a special function key
[03:40] <jessica_> jeffrey_f: no i'm using a desktop
[03:40] <wad> varunendra, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6592381/
[03:40] <KI7MT> r0039, Reboot the machine .. then try to update again, sudo apt-get update
[03:40] <SonikkuAmerica> mechtn: Did you enable X11 forwarding with the -X or -Y switch when you invoked [ ssh ]?
[03:40] <gvikaskc> any suggestions where to put this command >> sudo /etc/init.d/ccpd start << so that it automatically get executed every time the system starts
[03:41] <KI7MT> r0039, here's a good link to assist in fixing a broken sudo: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo#recoverymode
[03:41] <schlathe> Beldar: I get that, but ASUS is listed as an official Ubuntu partner, this laptop ships with Ubuntu, and the ASUS 1015 is certified, I feel like ASUS ought to be jeapordizing their partner status if they claim to not support Linux on this laptop
[03:41] <mechtn> no idea.
[03:41] <r0039> KI7MT: still error, I try those solution.
[03:42] <r0039> But it can not resolve the problem.
[03:42] <SonikkuAmerica> mechtn: Quit your SSH session, then try [ ssh -X user@hostname ]
[03:42] <mechtn> SonikkuAmerica - i need help getting it to start so i can xRDP into it.  when I do now all i get is a wierd looking background
[03:42] <varunendra> wad, your driver has some parameters that you may try to improve stability, although the poor signal strength is no good and "tx power = 0" is unexplained.
[03:42] <Beldar> schlathe, Sure, however it's you against a multi national corporation. I would check what ubuntu release first.
[03:42] <wad> ok
[03:42] <gvikaskc> \exit
[03:43] <wad> Hmm, tx power = 0 seems kinda wrong.
[03:43] <mechtn> now i got this when i logged in with x11 forwarding on /usr/bin/xauth:  file /home/desktop/.Xauthority does not exist
[03:43] <hitsujiTMO> schlathe: how did you contact this rep? might just be an idiot that you were dealing with
[03:43] <wad> varunendra, yea, in wlconfig, I get: Bit Rate=11 Mb/s   Tx-Power=0 dBm
[03:43] <schlathe> hitsujiTMO: probably. I contacted via the official ASUS support thingy
[03:43] <SonikkuAmerica> mechtn: You're looking to RDP? Look into Remmina. (It's installed in the default set of programs in Ubuntu (Unity).)
[03:44] <varunendra> wad, for example, try this - "sudo modprobe -rv iwlmvm" .... then "sudo modprobe -v iwlwifi bt_coex_active=N".... then "sudo modprobe -v iwlmvm"
[03:44] <wad> Wow, I just wish that solving a video driver issue was as straitforward as a networking issue. -_-
[03:44] <hitsujiTMO> schlathe: can you try again. Also I'd bring up an issue on the asus support forums. What is the issue that you were contacting them about?
[03:44] <wad> ok
[03:44] <KI7MT> r0039, did yuo boot into recovery mode?
[03:44] <mechtn> from Windows to the Ubuntu desktop
[03:44] <schlathe> hitsujiTMO: I reinstalled Ubuntu and wireless randomly doesn't work
[03:44] <mechtn> I just dont know how to get the ubuntu desktop gui started from SSH so that I can remote into it
[03:44] <jeffrey_f> jessica_:  ???
[03:45] <schlathe> hitsujiTMO: wifi claims to be disabled by hardware switch, there is no hardware switch
[03:45] <jessica_> jeffrey_f: i'm using a destop not a laptop, no, i don't think i have a switch
[03:45] <hitsujiTMO> schlathe: what version if ubuntu did you install? 12.04?
[03:45] <jeffrey_f> schlathe:  special FN key??
[03:46] <hitsujiTMO> schlathe: can you pastebin the output of: rfkill list
[03:46] <schlathe> jeffrey_f: I'm pretty sure the FN key is software
[03:46] <jeffrey_f> jessica_: no, you wouldn't....
[03:46] <varunendra> wad, other parameters that are frequently helpful are "11n_disable=1" and "swcrypto=1" with iwlwifi driver. The method I suggested above (with modprobe) loads these temporarily, means it will be reset at next boot. If any of these (or a combination of them) helps, it can be made permanent.
[03:46] <wad> right
[03:46] <schlathe> hitsujiTMO: it's working right now... let me reboot and see if it stops working
[03:46] <wad> I'll mess with them now. Thanks!
[03:46] <SonikkuAmerica> mechtn: Are you in a desktop environment now?
[03:47] <r0039> yesterday, I did it the following that guide.
[03:47] <jeffrey_f> schlathe:  It is, but it turns off the card and to the OS, it would look like it was turned off by hardware switch
[03:47] <wad> varunendra, what does bt_coex_active do?
[03:47] <mechtn> SonikkuAmerica - I have access to the ubuntu box only via SSH at the moment. I installed xRDP on it it fails to load a desktop when I connect.
[03:47] <varunendra> wad, most of the wifi cards are in a user-accessible area of a notebook. See if you can reach it and make sure the antenna wires are properly connected.
[03:48] <r0039> <KI7MT I use shift key to log into recovery mode and run those commands. But it still error.
[03:48] <wad> varunendra, that's a great idea!
[03:48] <r0039> humnnnn.....
[03:48] <SonikkuAmerica> mechtn: What are you using to SSH into the Ubuntu box?
[03:48] <mechtn> SonikkuAmerica - I'm assuming you must first start a desktop somehow through SSH so that I can connect to it with RDP to xRDP
[03:48] <mechtn> Putty
[03:48] <r0039> Now i'm analizing pam authenticate module. Common_auth.
[03:48] <SonikkuAmerica> mechtn: With PuTTY you have to configure X11 inside the configuration GUI when you first start the program.
[03:48] <jeffrey_f> SonikkuAmerica: what was the wrapper command?
[03:49] <varunendra> wad, it just disables a particular 'feature' of the driver that allows for co-existence of bluetooth and wifi signals. It is meant for good, but sometimes doesn't work as expected, causing trouble instead.
[03:49] <r0039> I see that the authentication of application/service authenticate it.
[03:49] <wad> Ah, got it.
[03:49] <mechtn> I did that but get an error when connecting
[03:49] <wad> I think I'll just turn off bluetooth in the BIOS anywasy.
[03:49] <wad> I don't use it.
[03:49] <mechtn> I got this error - /usr/bin/xauth:  file /home/desktop/.Xauthority does not exist
[03:49] <wad> I just turn it off on the system, too.
[03:50] <wad> Okay, gonna do these modprobe commands. Might drop me.....
[03:50] <varunendra> wad, that won't matter. It is the 'unusual' algorithm to send signals that would be implemented anyway with default parameters.
[03:50] <SonikkuAmerica> jeffrey_f: [ sudo ndiswrapper -i /path/to/windows/driver.inf [
[03:50]  * wad nods
[03:51] <mechtn> how do i even check to see which desktop i have.. gnome/unity?  can i search the packages somehow to see whats installed
[03:51] <KI7MT> mechtn, log ingot the remote box with ssh -X username@hostname/ipaddress you'll get the error, but it should create the .Xauthority file for you.
[03:51] <mechtn> k, then after that i RDP to xRDP ?
[03:51] <benthemachine> how can i get netflix working on ubuntu 12.04
[03:52] <mechtn> im getting failed to load session "ubuntu-2d" when i try to RDP into it now.
[03:53] <wad> varunendra, hey, thanks so much. I'm going to try some of these, and see how it goes.
[03:53] <SonikkuAmerica> mechtn: ?? Why are you trying to RDP with PuTTY?
[03:53] <wad> But for now, I must sleep. Goodnight, #ubuntu.
[03:54] <KI7MT> r0039, Im unsure where to take this one. If your not in the sudo group you'd get that error, but Im not familiar wiht PAM authentication modules, so can't help much there.
[03:54] <benthemachine> how can I get netflix to work on ubuntu
[03:54] <benthemachine> ?
[03:54] <mechtn> I'm using Windows RDP to RDP
[03:54] <mechtn> i'm using Putty to SSH
[03:54] <ejv> I RDP through putty all the time ^_^
[03:54] <ejv> quite common
[03:54] <schlathe> hitsujiTMO: jeffrey_f: http://pastebin.com/Hwhf9Say
[03:54] <mechtn> is x11 supposed to work over SSH? becuase if it is then its not for me
[03:54] <SonikkuAmerica> ejv: I concede.
[03:54] <ejv> SonikkuAmerica: ssh tunneling! :)
[03:54] <grendal_prime> sounds like a lot of encryption.
[03:55] <KI7MT> schlathe, no
[03:55] <SonikkuAmerica> mechtn: Yes, but not in the way you'd expect... what I think you want is this: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/05/connect-to-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin-via-windows-remote-desktop/
[03:55] <grendal_prime> rdp encription is actually not that bad from what i understand.
[03:55] <grendal_prime> rdp via ssh seems ...it would be rather slow.
[03:55] <Beldar> benthemachine, There is a ppa, what release you running?
[03:55] <AirstrikeIvanov> hey guys, how do i add custom menu icons/items to the unity dash?
[03:55] <ObrienDave> benthemachine, there is a PPA for netflix
[03:55] <mechtn> woot i got in
[03:55] <mechtn> echo gnome-session --session=gnome-fallback > ~/.xsession
[03:55] <mechtn> did that then tried to RDP again
[03:55] <jeffrey_f> jessica_: what wireless hardware do you have???
[03:56] <jessica_> jeffrey_f: D-Link DWA-140
[03:56] <benthemachine> xubuntu 12.04 i think how do I check?
[03:56] <varunendra> schlathe, please see this bug report : https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173681
[03:56] <KI7MT> mechtn, cool .. you definately do not want the 3d setup, way to heavy for RDP
[03:56] <varunendra> schlathe, and this workaround : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2181558
[03:56] <hitsujiTMO> schlathe: can you pastebin the output of lspci -knn
[03:57] <mechtn> sweet. thx for help.  was googling too
[03:57] <mechtn> so if i do the x11 over putty
[03:57] <jeffrey_f> jessica_:http://greweb.me/2011/01/how-to-make-dlink-dwa-140-perfectly-work-on-linux/
[03:57] <mechtn> is that supposed to show the graphic interafce over putty or just start up a session?
[03:57] <KI7MT> mechtn, pass, I dont see the point in that really.
[03:58] <SonikkuAmerica> mechtn: It'll start a terminal session. You run whatever X11-powered apps you want by invoking them via CLI.
[03:58] <KI7MT> mechtn, if you really need a secure graphical setup, consier a NPN tunnel.
[03:58] <Beldar> benthemachine, this ppa and install the netfix-desktop  https://launchpad.net/~ehoover/+archive/compholio
[03:58] <varunendra> schlathe, hitsujiTMO it's a known issue now with Asus notebooks now, too bad it's still not fixed (although the workaround works always)
[03:58] <KI7MT> whoops VPN
[04:00] <Beldar> benthemachine, little older wiki but the info is the same I believe. http://www.iheartubuntu.com/2012/11/ppa-for-netflix-desktop-app.html
[04:00] <kc__> Question: My steam won't open using wine, and I can't find a way to update wine :/
[04:00] <hitsujiTMO> varunendra: thats for a specific set eifi adapter family. I've 3 asus notebooks, none of which have that issue. It would be a good idea to verify that he indeed has the hardware that has the problem. Considering its a certified device, this should not be happening
[04:00] <schlathe> I'm on 12.04, need to do a little more digging. Still want to see about escalating with Canonical; people shouldn't be shipping systems with Ubuntu that have broken wireless and then claiming they don't support the products they sell.
[04:01] <varunendra> hitsujiTMO, the workaround post I linked to offers the method to verify that. The fact that a sleep-resume cycle makes it work is most powerful indication that it is indeed the same bug
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> im working an a laptop that doesnt wanna shutdown on both 12.04 and 13.10, it freezes on 'modem-manager caught signal 15 FAIL'
 big thanks :).
[04:02] <KI7MT> r0039, You get it working?
[04:02] <varunendra> hitsujiTMO, and yes, I agree that the "atheros driver" name in the bug report makes it somewhat a particular hardware specific, which I don't like too.
[04:02] <r0039> no, it still not working :D
[04:02] <westcoast79> Hi, I am trying to install 13.10 on my desktop have never had a problem with 12.04 or older however, when I boot the install cd it stops on black and white bars after the ubuntu screen loads?  any ideas?
[04:03] <schlathe`> lscpci -knn: http://pastebin.com/D7hhG1GY
[04:04] <varunendra> !bootoptions | westcoast79
[04:05] <mechtn> whats a good way to transfer files to my ubuntu server
[04:06] <westcoast79> thank you! ubottu & varunendra
[04:06] <jeffrey_f> mechtn:  filezilla.  Connect via ssh
[04:06] <jeffrey_f> mechtn: aka  sFTP
[04:07] <varunendra> schlathe`, did you see this post : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2181558 ??
[04:07] <hitsujiTMO> schlathe: can you also pastebin the output of: lsmod | grep -e asus
[04:08] <KI7MT> r0039, what errors you getting now?
[04:09] <schlathe`> varunendra: hitsujiTMO: yeah: http://pastebin.com/u1WmvBsW I don't see any atheros drivers
[04:10] <varunendra> schlathe`, the bug is not atheros specific, but "asus_nb_wmi" specific. I'm sure you have it loaded.
[04:10] <schlathe`> yeah I do, that's obvious
[04:10] <grendal_prime> god i hate windows
[04:11] <schlathe`> looks like I'm on broadcom though
[04:11] <hitsujiTMO> schlathe: you care using the asus_nb_wmi
[04:11] <hitsujiTMO> are*
[04:11] <schlathe`> hitsujiTMO: yes
[04:11] <grendal_prime> you know i just dont deal with it that often ..then when i do something simple is such a wreck
[04:11] <ObrienDave> grendal_prime, most of us do ;P
[04:11] <KI7MT> Indeed !
[04:11] <grendal_prime> this whole termial server bs is making me crazy
[04:11] <Beldar> westcoast79, try the nomodeset option in the f6 menu.
[04:11] <grendal_prime> like..you cant log in more than one user at a time..
[04:12] <varunendra> schlathe`, the only workaround I could find so far is the one I linked to. I'd love to see another one, and have it posted in that thread as well as the bug report page. If you are convinced, I also encourage you to submit a separate bug report with your hardware details.
[04:13] <grendal_prime> is there like a way to do that with like nx for windows..or...will vnc on win allow multiple connections?
[04:13] <grendal_prime> i guess this is not the place to ask.
[04:13] <grendal_prime> thing is if i ask somewhhere eles they wont know what the heck im taling about
[04:14] <KI7MT> grendal_prime, definitely not a Windows room fer sure.
[04:15] <grendal_prime> i know..but i cant go to #windows, nobody there will understand what im trying to do
[04:15] <grendal_prime> hehehe
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> im working an a laptop that doesnt wanna shutdown on both 12.04 and 13.10, it freezes on 'modem-manager caught signal 15 FAIL' any clue?
[04:15] <KI7MT> grendal_prime, but, look into the different PuTTY managers available, there's a couple that allow what your looking for.
[04:15] <grendal_prime> putty managers?
[04:15] <grendal_prime> i dont see how that would work but ok
[04:16] <KI7MT> grendal_prime, look into it. I cant recall the nmes of them off top of my head, Like super_putty and the like, they allot multi-user connect.
[04:17] <KI7MT> allow
[04:18] <varunendra> schlathe`, one (not important) thing - the bcma-pci-bridge is not a module that is listed in lsmod. It usually means <something>+bcma driver
[04:19] <killer> hey whenever i try to install a software i get, "http://pastebin.com/LTLL3SBR"
[04:20] <schlathe`> varunendra: oh good looks like brcmsmac
[04:20] <hitsujiTMO> killer: medibuntu is no more for one thing
[04:20] <KI7MT> killer, you spedded it wrong .. try   apt-get install  not pt-get
[04:20] <varunendra> schlathe`, yup usually that :)
[04:20] <grendal_prime> oh christ (that was a prayer)
[04:21] <killer> i wrote apt-get only , but copied it wrongl on pastebin
[04:21] <schlathe`> varunendra: what do the columns meed in lsmod? manpage is light on details
[04:21] <grendal_prime> vd is bigger than the physical. thats gonna hurt
[04:22] <varunendra> schlathe`, the header line tells what they mean (module name, size (in bytes), how many drivers it is used by, and which ones it is used by)
[04:22] <schlathe`> oh I see, what I get for just grepping
[04:23] <grendal_prime> ya you need to reel a little more aggress
[04:23] <grendal_prime> grep...reel...reel...grep
[04:23] <grendal_prime> thats the rythm i keep..
[04:23] <KI7MT> killer, instead og using apt-get, try using the software manager, and changing your download mirror.
[04:24] <varunendra> schlathe`, probably the "how many drivers it is used by" part needs more explanation, which I am not sure about myself ;)
[04:26] <varunendra> killer, why are you using a non-default repo for something like firefox ?
[04:27] <guest___________> [ QUESTION ] If I install a certain PPA, does this install ALL of the software in the PPA?
[04:27] <hitsujiTMO> [ ANSWER ] No
[04:27] <KI7MT> guest___________, no
[04:27] <KI7MT> :-) Im too slow
[04:28] <varunendra> and I even gave up :P
[04:28] <knfbny> lol hitsujiTMO
[04:28] <guest___________> <--- N00B.  What does installing a certain PPA do?
[04:28] <KI7MT> guest___________, It merely enables you to install the packages associated with that particular PPA
[04:28] <guest___________> Okay.
[04:29] <guest___________> It kind of creates a link for my computer to install packages from a desired PPA.  Correct?
[04:31] <KI7MT> guest___________, It's a user repository of software, of which you can choose packages to install from, in't not really a link..
[04:31] <guest___________> After installing a certain PPA, will the Ubuntu Software Center update the software that I have downloaded from a certain PPA?
[04:32] <Beldar> !ppa| guest___________ pertinent info
[04:32] <KI7MT> guest___________, No, all updates and new revisions are the responsibilty of the PPA owner, however, onece you add the PPA to your list, apt-get will maintain service updates as released form the PPA owner.
[04:35] <KI7MT> I forgot how to do it, but how di send a Ubottu  info to myself?
[04:35] <KI7MT> how do I ..
[04:35] <somsip> KI7MT:  !info > KI7MT
[04:35] <KI7MT> rr thanks.
[04:36] <somsip> KI7MT: or msg it privately
[04:36] <guest___________> What is Ubottu info?
[04:36] <KI7MT> that wont post it in the channel though, the Info > KI7MT ?
[04:36] <somsip> !brain | guest___________
[04:37] <somsip> KI7MT: it will show the request in channel but not the reponse. Do it privately if you dont want to spam the channel
[04:37] <KI7MT> How do I do that privately?
[04:37] <somsip> KI7MT: msg it with /msg
[04:37] <KI7MT> thanks
[04:38] <Logan_> somsip: *her
[04:38] <ejv> ugh that nick makes me cringe lol
[04:38] <zarkos> can you host a webserver on ubuntu or debian with vmware and access it locally ?
[04:38] <ejv> zarkos: yes
[04:38] <Logan_> !gender | somsip
[04:38] <somsip> Logan_: you're quite right :)
[04:38] <zarkos> ejv,  thanks
[04:40] <guest___________> !info > guest___________
[04:40] <KI7MT> !ppa-purge > KI7MT
[04:41] <KI7MT> lolo
[04:42] <KI7MT> that didn't work
[04:42] <somsip> KI7MT: so how do you want it to work?
[04:43] <KI7MT> I thought there was a way I could just send like !ppa-info to myself without spammign the channel like you said.
[04:43] <somsip> KI7MT: message her privately, like I've said
[04:43] <KI7MT> I tried that, Im probabyl sending the input wrong.
[04:44] <somsip> !msgthebot | KI7MT
[04:45] <varunendra> KI7MT, if you are using a GUI IRC client like xChat, just right-click "ubottu" > Open a Dialogue Window.
[04:45] <KI7MT> Yes, im using Xchat, that will work well thanks.
[04:46] <varunendra> np :)
[05:06] <julie101010> I have partial progessive black screen problems since upgrade to 13.10, can anyone help me?
[05:06] <Rayhai> Hey, I need a little help. I installed KDE on Ubuntu 13.10, but I didn't like it, so I tried to uninstall it, but I can't get rid of it completely. Now, when I update, it wants me to install a ton of things for KDE and the Plasma workspace. Plus my log-in is the Plasma log-in. How do I just completely remove it?
[05:07] <shafox> hi, i just compiled vim from source , but after compiling , when i try to do which vim it outputs nothing ,.. here is the whole procedure how i done it.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6592588/
[05:08] <Rayhai> @julie101010 - did you try to install some nvidia drivers?
[05:08] <julie101010> Rayhai, my laptop has an Intel adapter
[05:09] <KI7MT> julie101010, Check the top instruction: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu
[05:09] <KI7MT> julie101010, sri that was for Rayhai
[05:10] <somsip> shafox: compiling from source is not something that can be supported in detail here. Why are you not using a package?
[05:10] <julie101010> Ubuntu says my driver is: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.3, 128 bits)
[05:11] <MrJerome> i can't stop hiccupping what shoud i do?
[05:11] <somsip> MrJerome: hold your breath for a couple of days
[05:11] <MrJerome> somsip: i tried that =P
[05:11] <somsip> MrJerome: okay, so do you have a ubuntu support question?
[05:12] <shafox> somsip, some plugins use the latest vim which is not in the ubuntu ppa or in the ubuntu repos.
[05:12] <Rayhai> @ KI7MT - I've tried all of those already.
[05:12] <julie101010> in any case, it's something that should be checked in the vim instructions
[05:12] <Rayhai> It just says that they're either not installed or unable to locate
[05:13] <somsip> shafox: then you'll be very lucky if you get help here. Vim support is much more likely here http://www.vim.org/community.php
[05:14] <KI7MT> Rayhai, did you do the final item, by reinstallgin the ub-desktop ? you could also remove  --purge
[05:14] <julie101010> what do you guys suggest?  should I stop using Ubuntu as it causes major problems every two upgrades or could anyone point me in the right direction?
[05:14] <shafox> ok
[05:15] <Rayhai> I tried to reconfigure with "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm" but I get:
[05:15] <Rayhai> dpkg-query: package 'kdm' is not installed and no information is available
[05:15] <Rayhai> Use dpkg --info (= dpkg-deb --info) to examine archive files,
[05:15] <Rayhai> and dpkg --contents (= dpkg-deb --contents) to list their contents.
[05:17] <KI7MT> Rayhai, why would you wnat to reconfigure kdm is your removing it?
[05:18] <Rayhai> KI7MT, I'm just trying to find ways to disable the start screen, as even though I've already tried to remove it, I still get the KDE Plasma start screen
[05:19] <KI7MT> you could grep for the qt/kde packages installed and manually remove them somehting like: dpkg --get-selections | grep kde and remove them manuallt, same for qt
[05:22] <KI7MT> Rayhai, then I would use deborphan, autoremove, aptitude purge, then an autoclean
[05:22] <xzynth> hi guys
[05:22] <Rayhai> Okay when I use dpkg --get-selections, I get a bunch of packages I have installed. I see the KDE and Plasma stuff, but how do I remove them?
[05:23] <KI7MT> Rayhai, if you want the Gnome Diplay Manager, as apposed to KDM, sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[05:24] <Rayhai> I don't really use gnome. I use Unity as my daily driver and cinnamon for work
[05:25] <Mike_H> hello
[05:25] <KLVTZ> Hello!
[05:25] <Rayhai> I was looking to use KDE for work, but I found it too bloated for my tastes
[05:28] <KI7MT> Rayhai, to remove them, same as any other package, apt-get remove <package-name>
[05:29] <Rayhai> Oh well. Thanks for your help. I was hoping there would be a faster way
[05:30] <Rayhai> can I remove multiple packages at a time by putting a space between each package?
[05:30] <JoshDreamland> Could anyone help me install the nvidia-cuda-dev package?
[05:30] <Beldar> Rayhai, Did you get that psychocats link?
[05:30] <KI7MT> Rayhai, one would think, but it doesn't always work out as planned.
[05:30] <Rayhai> Doesn't work for me
[05:30] <JoshDreamland> it fails because I can't install libcuda-5.0-1
[05:30] <Beldar> Rayhai, always use nicks here.
[05:31] <julie101010> how do I reinstall the video driver on Ubuntu 13.10?
[05:31] <KI7MT> Rayhai, you should be able to .. as long as you ahve the package name straight.
[05:31] <Guest19292> just thought id monitor
[05:31] <varunendra> Rayhai, you could create a script yourself (grepping and using 'dependencies' of KDE metapackage), but I wouldn't rely on a script for a destructive action.
[05:32] <julie101010> is there another support channel for Ubuntu?
[05:32] <varunendra> julie101010, depends on what you want the help with
[05:32] <KI7MT> Rayhai, if your up on your bash scripting, you can quickly generate a file sith the package names, then a simple bash loop to remove them.
[05:33] <julie101010> with serious display problems after last system upgrade
[05:34] <Beldar> julie101010, Are you using a proprietary driver?
[05:34] <julie101010> beldar, never selected any driver
[05:34] <varunendra> julie101010, there is #ubuntu-beginners , but it is (generally) not better than this one.
[05:34] <julie101010> I have 15 years of Unix system experience
[05:35] <julie101010> I just want a simple suggestion to start the resolution
[05:35] <Beldar> julie101010, What is the graphic hardware?
[05:35] <zarkos> where can i find a good hosting forum to find reviews about offshore hosting ?
[05:36] <ghalsk> I am trying to make a unix socket that I can connect to with "redis.Redis(unix_socket_path='/tmp/redis.sock')"
[05:36] <ghalsk> but the closest im getting is using "socket -sl 6478 &> /dev/null&" with the socket package, but this does not leave any socket file as far as I can tell.
[05:36] <julie101010> Beldar: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev
[05:36] <KI7MT> zarkos, not here, I'd try google first :-)
[05:36] <ghalsk> does any one have some direction for me?
[05:36] <zarkos> KI7MT, yes google is my friend :-D
[05:36] <zarkos> thanks
[05:37] <varunendra> julie101010 , have you tried some of the available boot options temporarily ? Especially 'nomodeset' and acpi related ones.
[05:37] <julie101010> no change
[05:37] <julie101010> it's really weird, sections of the applications become black
[05:38] <julie101010> it doesn't seem to be in the driver
[05:38] <varunendra> julie101010, which options have you tried so far?
[05:39] <julie101010> searching for such a weird issue on Google lead nowhere so after very basic troubleshooting I came here for direction
[05:39] <WorldEmperor> hi
[05:39] <varunendra> !bootoptions | julie101010
[05:40] <WorldEmperor> julie101010, what r u googling
[05:40] <WorldEmperor> j
[05:40] <WorldEmperor> i will gooogle for u
[05:40] <Beldar> julie101010, Is this an aceraspire, if so what model?
[05:41] <julie101010> Aspire One (can't check the exact model)
[05:41] <WorldEmperor> julianwa,
[05:41] <WorldEmperor> wot r u google
[05:42] <WorldEmperor> julilikkille
[05:43] <somsip> WorldEmperor: do you have a support question?
[05:44] <Beldar> julie101010, I have a acer aspire d250, there is a tag on the bottom side that tells you the model.
[05:44] <Beldar> an aspire one
[05:45] <julie101010> Beldar: I just can not check it at the moment, but I have the chip information from lspci so I doubt I'm missing much....  How would someone go about on updating display drivers on Ubuntu 13.10?
[05:46] <Beldar> julie101010, I suspect you don't have to, what I wonder is what you have modified on it, IE themes, compiz...etc?
[05:47] <julie101010> Beldar: I have modified some compiz options in the past, that's a very good point!  How would I reset it?
[05:47] <Beldar> julie101010, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/08/reset-unity-and-compiz-in-ubuntu-13-10/
[05:48] <julie101010> tyvm
[05:48] <Beldar> julie101010, generally reboot is needed afterwards
[05:49] <KI7MT> julie101010, The Intel drivers are part of the kernel,  if you you have a problem with the 13.10 Kernel, you do a mainline kernel, or regress to an earlier working version.
[05:49] <KI7MT> you can do ..
[05:51] <KI7MT> julie101010, there are many posted "solutions" but the real fix will be via a Kernel patch at some point, I had the same issues on my D400 G95 laptop.
[05:53] <KI7MT> julie101010, having said that, there is an open source Intel graphics driver installer, I tried it worked, bu I can't guarantee your situation: https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2013/intelr-graphics-installer-1.0.2-linux
[05:53] <julie101010> I think the problem is resolved
[05:54] <julie101010> tyvm Beldar!
[05:54] <Beldar> julie101010, Cool, no problem, just keep an eye on it.
[05:55] <KI7MT> Well done Beldar
[05:55] <Beldar> lucky guess
[05:56] <KI7MT> I wish mine were that easy, well not easily found, but resolved anyway.
[05:59] <LordNed> So I upgraded from Xubuntu 12.20 to 13.04 and now when I get to the desktop it's black with a mouse cursor and nothing else, and when I left click I get random multicolor garbage squares
[05:59] <LordNed> Where do I uh, go from here :p
[06:00] <Beldar> LordNed, you tried a nomodeset boot?
[06:00] <LordNed> Beldar, I have not, is that just adding nomodeset to the GRUB boot line?
[06:00] <Beldar> !nomodeset | LordNed yeah look here.
[06:01] <Beldar> LordNed, If you are using the proprietary graphics they will not follow a upgrade, or a ppas drivers.
[06:01] <mayo> register mayo mygreymatter@gmail.com
[06:02] <LordNed> Beldar, I was not using propietary graphics. Last time I tried those they broke X, so I was going to try to get fully updated before installing them
[06:02] <Beldar> LordNed, any PPA's?
[06:02] <LordNed> Don't know what a PPA is
[06:02] <somsip> !PPA | LordNed
[06:02] <Beldar> !ppa | LordNed
[06:02] <LordNed> going to guess no...
[06:03] <Beldar> LordNed, xswat sound familiar
[06:03] <Beldar> LordNed, we don't guess here if possible especially in graphics. ;)
[06:04] <LordNed> Beldar, xswat does not sound familiar either. I understand the not guessing
[06:04] <KI7MT> lol that leaves me out then :-)
[06:05] <LordNed> I can't get it to boot into Grub, where is the grub config located so I can modify it via tty1?
[06:06] <Beldar> LordNed, tap the shift keey when powering on for the grub menu.
[06:06] <LordNed> Beldar, yeah it's ignoring that (though I was holding it)
[06:07] <Beldar> LordNed, have you modified the time out?
[06:07] <LordNed> I have not, it's an untouched Xubuntu 12.20 install with do-release-upgrade run on it
[06:07] <LordNed> + updates
[06:08] <Beldar> LordNed, are you hitting the shift key after the power on or before?
[06:08] <LordNed> Beldar, right after the BIOS splash goes away
[06:08] <Beldar> LordNed, hit the power key then the shift do it sooner
[06:09] <ObrienDave> tap shift continuously
[06:09] <LordNed> Is the fact I'm doing sudo reboot to cause it to reboot going to make a difference?
[06:10] <tsimpson> LordNed: make sure you hold down the right shift key, or try escape if that fails
[06:10] <edmon> or tab key
[06:13] <Beldar> LordNed, If your having to reboot hit that shift as soon as you see the bios, on that bios screen is usually info for f keys
[06:13] <LordNed> ok, still trying here
[06:13] <LordNed> got it.
[06:13] <Beldar> bios splash that is
[06:13] <Beldar> cool
[06:13] <LordNed> Modified /etc/default/grub to have a 10s countdown and then just hit escape
[06:14] <Beldar> you want to insert nomodeset like the link shows
[06:15] <Beldar> LordHavoc, There is a failsafe x in  the recovery as well.
[06:15] <LordNed> Okay, can see my desktop again. Get "System program problem detected. Do you want to report the problem now?" popup.
[06:16] <LordNed> Looks like xserver-xorg-core reported a Crash
[06:16] <helheim> <-- chatting in PEAR LINUX
[06:17] <helheim> this system is fucking cool
[06:17] <helheim> ubuntu based mac ripoff
[06:17] <Ububegin> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AGt8cdHQ_Y-zf9HqKi3ducfFnop9ZWqUT_l9U-4aK2w/edit?usp=sharing
[06:18] <Ububegin> Hi, I am having some network issues while trying to configure a vm .. I download Cloudera's Hadoop VM which can connect to the Internet. And made some changes as highlighted in the above text, Now I cant connect to the Internet.. Any helps, thanks
[06:18] <LordNed> Beldar, do you think it's worth trying to install the Propeitary drivers (amd) now? I need them installed in the long run anyways
[06:20] <Beldar> LordNed, In general proprietary drivers are not suggested, however sometimes they are in the additional drivers area, if you do, you have to know how to deal with the problems that can create.
[06:20] <Beldar> helheim, This is a no swear channel.
[06:21] <LordNed> Beldar, unfortuntaely, I (afaik) need them, unfortunately I don't know how to deal with the problems that they create (which is a lot apparently)
[06:21] <muchdoge> Hey guys, I really need some help. before I get started, I am very good with windows, but have only been using ubuntu for about 3 days. The computer that is having the issue is a 3 year old E-machine. Xubuntu 13.10 I have changed nearly every piece on it, except for the motherboard. Power supply is a 550w thermalake, CPU: amd athalon dule. Motherboard: ? Graphics: One onboard NVIDIA 8500 (piece of crap), PCI-Ex: ASUS AMD HD 6770 D1.
[06:21] <muchdoge> OK so here is the problem. The AMD does not show up. In fact, the pci slot is not detecting it at all. I am not getting video out of that card ether. I have reset the cmos, and have set the bios to use the PCI-Ex slot first, but still nothing. I have been agonizing over this for a few days now, and I need an answer......I will pay you in ether BTC, LTC, or DogeCoin for help on this one, if you can fix it. If you have any other questions
[06:22] <Beldar> LordNed, Graphics are not really an area I'm totally up on all my computers have been intel graphics.
[06:23] <Beldar> and I'm not a gamr so I have not had to mess with them.
[06:23]  * LordNed holds his breath and installs fglrx
[06:24] <Beldar> muchdoge, You can pay canonical, we don't do bribes here. ;)
[06:24] <ObrienDave> i can be bribed ;P
[06:24] <hitsujiTMO> muchdoge: can you pastebin the output of lspci
[06:25] <Beldar> except for ObrienDave lol
[06:25] <ObrienDave> ;P
[06:25]  * ObrienDave is not proud
[06:25] <muchdoge> hitsujiTMO: Im still learning how to talk to the terminal. Can you please post the right command so that it gives me the pastebin link?
[06:26] <Beldar> I will for mass consumables of on occasion
[06:26] <hje841> how do I run Ubuntu in Qemu?
[06:26] <ObrienDave> muchdoge, lspci | pastebinit
[06:26] <hitsujiTMO> muchdoge: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && lspci | pastebinit
[06:27] <Ububegin> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AGt8cdHQ_Y-zf9HqKi3ducfFnop9ZWqUT_l9U-4aK2w/edit?usp=sharing
[06:27] <Ububegin> Hi, I am having some network issues while trying to configure a vm .. I download Cloudera's Hadoop VM which can connect to the Internet. And made some changes as highlighted in the above text, Now I cant connect to the Internet.. Any helps, thanks
[06:27] <hje841> 13.10 64 bit
[06:27] <muchdoge> hitsujiTMO: Sorry, I just dont know how to make the vertical slash. Thanks for the paist. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6592793/
[06:27] <KI7MT> hje841, I'd start here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/QemuEmulator
[06:28] <hje841> KI7MT, thanks
[06:28] <whoever> Ububegin: is your network set as NAT or bridge
[06:29] <KI7MT> hje841, additional resources: http://wiki.qemu.org/Manual
[06:29] <hitsujiTMO> muchdoge: no amd card is showing up so either its completely disabled in the bios, it's not seated correctly, or its dead
[06:29] <hitsujiTMO> I'd put my money on it being dead
[06:29] <Ububegin> whoever: My Gray one was NAT.. but I using bridge for the non-gray one
[06:29] <LordNed> Success, fglrx drivers installed almost-without-issue! I no longer have the task bar at the top, but I boot to desktop. :V
[06:29] <KI7MT> Check the power cable too
[06:30] <muchdoge> hitsujiTMO, Im going to go for the not seated correctly....This case is a very slim case, and I had to take it apart to make the card fit. Would you say that moving the whole system to a bigger case is a good move then?
[06:30] <hitsujiTMO> muchdoge: what amd card is it?
[06:31] <KI7MT> GPU, Heat, small case, never a good plan
[06:31] <whoever> Ububegin: is it a wired or wireless connection
[06:31] <muchdoge> hitsujiTMO ASUS AMD HD 6770 d1, if your looking at pictures its the one with the fan instead of the liquid cooler
[06:31] <Ububegin> whoever: wired
[06:32] <hitsujiTMO> muchdoge: its only 108w tdp, so shouldn't get that hot.
[06:33] <whoever> Ububegin: so you can't connect to the internet at all, even from the host or just the vm
[06:33] <Ububegin> whoever: i cant connect from my host.. Even for the TWO VMS, the Gray one connects but the non-gray one fails
[06:34] <KI7MT> hitsujiTMO, depends on what he's doing with it, gaming, number crunching, OC'd, it can get hot.
[06:34] <muchdoge> hitsujiTMO: When I say this case is slim, I mean you cannot fit any pci card in with the case closed.....Makes me wonder why the included the pcie slot in the first place, but the gear was free.
[06:34] <muchdoge> ki7mt, great point, I will be scrypt mining with it.
[06:34] <whoever> Ububegin: what is hadoops vm
[06:35] <hitsujiTMO> KI7MT: yes but max 108tdp ... thats ok for a decent mini itx case even
[06:35] <whoever> is it linux win or mac
[06:35] <Ububegin> whoever: the original vm was downloaded from Cloudera.. it is a linux
[06:35] <hitsujiTMO> muchdoge: if you physically can't close the case then yeah, get a new case
[06:36] <muchdoge> ok....im going to move the whole machine to the new case, and hope that the card seats right......Wish me luck, Ill be back as soon as the transplant is done.
[06:36] <whoever> Ububegin: there could be a problem with the vm, you may want to insall the linux version yourself as a vm instead of using someone elses vm image
[06:37] <Ububegin> whoever: I mean the original vm worked nice.. But I was trying to modify as per the youtube video to create a cluster
[06:37] <Ububegin> of vms
[06:37] <whoever> Ububegin: are you using vmware, vbox or something else
[06:37] <Ububegin> whoever: vmware
[06:37] <hitsujiTMO> whoever: hadoop vms are typically images
[06:38] <whoever> hitsujiTMO: thx didn't know that
[06:38] <hje841> KI7MT, hmm.. the first link needs an update... it still refers to ubuntu 6.10, but with no luck. only black screen
[06:38] <whoever> Ububegin: the few times i have done clusters i have installed my own, sorry, i don't know more here
[06:39] <KI7MT> hje841, yes, was background information on what it is, how it works etc. When you say black screen, is this when your trying to boot the image?
[06:39] <mhahe> hello, I'm getting 'enter passphrase for "**some remote machine's private key**" '. how do i reproduce this on another machine? if this is a security risk ( since i generated the private key with this password ), how do i enforce a policy where only people with public keys can proceed to enter some password to continue login through ssh
[06:39] <hitsujiTMO> whoever: hadoop setups are usually done as a SaaS style to its almost all images
[06:40] <Ububegin> whoever: ah thanks nyways.. But the question, I was primaily asking was what was wrong with the ipadress settings.
[06:40] <hje841> KI7MT, yes. I get past the 'try ubuntu' menu and the window resizes, but then nothing
[06:41] <KI7MT> hje841, ok .. and are you following a guide or how-to ro something?
[06:41] <whoever> Ububegin:  can you ping out from your guest
[06:42] <whoever> Ububegin: if so then look at your reslv.conf if not then look at your net mask and broadcast
[06:42] <hje841> KI7MT, I've tried this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/QEMU from the section 'installing an operating system'
[06:43] <KI7MT> hje841, what is the Host OS you installed Qemu on ?
[06:43] <hje841> ubuntu 13.10 with Gnome Shell
[06:44] <is2b007> how do I go about mounting a hdd on startup
[06:44] <KI7MT> hje841, so to make sure we understand, you have a machine with the Host OD 13.10 and you want to run Qemu and install and Guest OS  of 13.10 also ?
[06:45] <Fou> hello im having an issue with wanting to only use the network resorsed from 1 network on eth1 and have the loop back ip as 127.0.0.1 and eth0 have auto dhcp. how to i configure that. I know the resolv.conf file and interface but is that all i need to do
[06:46] <hje841> KI7MT, yes, I want a version with proprietary packages and one without
[06:46] <KI7MT> is2b007, start here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingANewHardDrive
[06:47] <KI7MT> is2b007, if you dont need to re-mormat / partition it, skip that part.
[06:47] <Moseco> I am having a problem booting into ubuntu 13.04 after a clean install. When the computer starts up it says no bootable disk found. I have tried using boot-repair through a ubuntu installation disk, but i get the same result
[06:47] <is2b007> KI7MT: thanks
[06:47] <hje841> KI7MT, and I wanted some practice using qemu
[06:48] <KI7MT> hje841, Im looking for a resent verwion of Qemu install docs, but for private, daily use development, Virtual-Box is hard to beat, it's powerfull adn fairly straight forward.
[06:49] <hitsujiTMO> KI7MT: if you want to beat virtualbox there's vmware workstation. too bad its not free :(
[06:49] <hje841> KI7MT, I just read a review comparison, and QEMU and VB was the top scores
[06:49] <KI7MT> hitsujiTMO, used Vmware for years, but that costs $$
[06:50] <hje841> KI7MT, I like the CLI interface
[06:50] <KI7MT> We use it at work for modeling clusters, but for home use, I use VB
[06:51] <is2b007> KI7MT, "/dev/sdb1    /media/mynewdrive   ext3    defaults     0        2" what does the 2 mean
[06:51] <lickalott> Fou i'm back
[06:51] <lickalott> tried to hit you up before but it was Fou_ and it said no channel or nick
[06:52] <hje841> KI7MT, we've used qemu for class and it seems straight forward
[06:53] <KI7MT> hje841, this looks to be from 12.04 or there abouts, not found a 13.10 how-too yet: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/qemu-machine-emulator-and-virtualizer-setup-in-ubuntu.html
[06:53] <hje841> KI7MT, thanks
[06:54] <KI7MT> is2b007, in simple terms, controls the order in which fsck checks the device/partition for errors at boot time.
[06:54] <KI7MT> If you dont want disk/error checking on that disk, set it to 0
[06:58] <Fou> nice
[06:58] <Fou> lickalott
[06:58] <lickalott> sup
[06:58] <Fou> im just installed 2 new HD's and sofware raided them together and installed something new
[07:00] <lickalott> something new as in?  fedora, debian, mint, unraid?
[07:00] <Fou> i for got how i did it lol but i need to have on eth1 to only stay on 1 network lol and the other have internet access
[07:01] <Fou> giving debian 7 a try
[07:01] <lickalott> isn't that how you had it?
[07:01] <redGod> does anyone know how to about adding touch screen support to 13.10 ? Everything I have found so far has been useless. all I can do right now is click on thing but no scrolling or multi point gestures
[07:02] <lickalott> you want it the same way right?
[07:02] <Fou> yes
[07:02] <Fou> but
[07:02] <Fou> i have more space so i may not need the same setup
[07:02] <Fou> to have the torrent mapped to the other computer
[07:03] <lickalott> i meant the network set up.  eth0 = 192.168.13.20 eth1 = 192.168.1.whatever
[07:05] <hje841> KI7MT, the link you found refers to qemulator, but that is not in the repos.
[07:05] <KI7MT> redGod, have you checked that your device if fully supported? : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[07:06] <hitsujiTMO> KI7MT: I think he means touch support in ubuntu desktop not unbutu touch :P
[07:06] <KI7MT> hje841, you may want install qemu-system package that's the full system emulation binaries.
[07:07] <lickalott> Fou above
[07:07] <redGod> Sorry shouldhave mentioned this but I am on a laptop lenovo u530
[07:07] <redGod> KI7MT ^
[07:07] <KI7MT> hitsujiTMO, Ahh .. that wont work for sure then :-)
[07:07] <hitsujiTMO> KI7MT: actually it does :P
[07:08] <hje841> KI7MT, that followed with the 'qemu' package
[07:08] <Fou> yes
[07:08] <KI7MT> hitsujiTMO, Ok, I'll let you run with that one then, I got really wound up getting mine to work :-)
[07:08] <Fou> but i want the dns on eth1 to be 127.0.0.1
[07:08] <hitsujiTMO> redGod: touch support is still quite lacking in ubuntu. It's not really an issue of the OS, but an issue of the software itself. where apps like chrome on windows has nice touch support, they have failed to carry over any touch support into chrome for linux
[07:08] <Fou> i think i got it
[07:10] <KI7MT> hje841, and qemu emulator package by itself is package qemulator
[07:10] <KI7MT> hje841, ins a terminal, type apt-cache search qemu .. you cna see all the packages.
[07:10] <hje841> KI7MT, the command I'm trying is: qemu-system-x84_64 -cdrom <ubuntu-iso> -boot order=d <qemu_image>.qcow2 -m 4G
[07:11] <hje841> and that works with the arch.iso
[07:12] <redGod> hitsujiTMD: I thought touch screen would fall under an input device like a touchpad which would then make it fall into ubuntu's domain. Correctme if I am wrong
[07:13] <hitsujiTMO> redGod: Yes, the ability to interface with the OS is there in Ubuntu for touch devices. The issue is that apps have to utilise that interface. And they don't
[07:14] <forehand> I am setting up a dhcp server/router.  I will be having windows clients.  Does this mean that I need to get WINS?
[07:14] <hitsujiTMO> forehand: wins has nothing to do with dhcp
[07:15] <forehand> According to this http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch08_:_Configuring_the_DHCP_Server#.Uq_hV6F38Yx there is a setting in the dhcp conf for wins though?
[07:16] <hitsujiTMO> forehand: yes a dhcp server can assign a wins server. But its not needed. Its not part of dhcp at all
[07:16] <Fou> lickalott have you messed around with having 2 nics and juts have one localy?
[07:17] <forehand> Good to hear.  Thanks hitsujiTMO.  I got an IP on a client from my dhcp server, but after I changed the dhcp servers default gateway and domain, did a renew on the client, the client still shows the previous info.  What am I missing?
[07:17] <hitsujiTMO> forehand: if you wish, you can install a wins server for name lookups, but I prefer dns for that
[07:17] <lickalott> should just be an adjustment to the /etc/network/interfaces file Fou
[07:17] <forehand> hitsujiTMO: I was planning on doing a DNS in pretty short order.
[07:18] <hitsujiTMO> forehand: dis you reload the service on the server?
[07:18] <Someus> Hi. I just installed Ubuntu 12.04 on my old Laptop HP Compaq 6715s with AMD Sempron mobile processor and 1GB ram. Ubuntu works better than Wn
[07:18] <Someus> Can you give me tips to make my machine faster?
[07:19] <forehand> hitsujiTMO: yeah I /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:19] <hitsujiTMO> forehand: networking restart wont restart the dhcp server.
[07:19] <forehand> what is the command for that?
[07:19] <hitsujiTMO> forehand: what dhcp server are you using?
[07:19] <forehand> dhcp3
[07:19] <Someus> Can anyone tell me tips how to make Ubuntu 12.04 faster on slower laptops?
[07:20] <hitsujiTMO> forehand: try: sudo service dhcp3-server reload
[07:20] <KI7MT> Someus, Lubuntu or Xubuntu for lower resource machines may yield better performance that 2d/3d Ubuntu.
[07:21] <aeon-ltd> Someus: are you using gnome?, well if you are gnome is pretty heavy
[07:21] <vegardx> Does Ubuntu do something funny with ACPI support? I install the packages but it wont respond.
[07:22] <hje841> Someus, what KI7MT  said. all the fancy graphics is tasking. Lubuntu and Xubuntu is less demanding
[07:22] <Someus> yes Gnome
[07:22] <KI7MT> Someus, Lubuntu uses LXDE Desktop, and Xubuntu uses Xfce .. both are allot ligher weight in terms of of resource requirements and they are targets at lowe resource machines.
[07:22] <forehand> hitsujiTMO: Weird I got "dhcp3-server: unrecognized service" but when I just ran "apt-get install dhcp3-server" now it said it was already installed.
[07:22] <Someus> But i really like Ubuntu
[07:22] <hitsujiTMO> forehand: try: sudo service dhcp3 reload
[07:22] <aeon-ltd> Someus: you can continually cut stuff you don't need to essentials and alternatives to reallocate ram for more important tasks, also increasing availability of ram might decrease swap usage(writing to a file on a hdd in place of ram) which causes the majority of 'hangs' other than cpu and gpu being maxed out
[07:23] <forehand> hitsujiTMO: "dhcp3: unrecognized service"
[07:23] <KI7MT> Someus, case in point, my Dell D400 1.3Ghz 756MB of RAM I run Lubuntu and it runs very nice.
[07:23] <hitsujiTMO> forehand: can you pastebin: ls -l /etc/init.d/
[07:24] <forehand> hitsujiTMO: "sudo service --status-all" doesn't list it either.  I sure can.
[07:24] <Someus> What about application support on Lubuntu?
[07:24] <Fou> lickalott have you messed around with having 2 nics and juts have one localy?
[07:24] <Someus> Steam, Skype?
[07:24] <forehand> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/8QSvWqcU
[07:25] <KI7MT> hje841, I can't find a reason why the command your using is not working, it looks right to me, but Im certainly not a Qemu expert.
[07:25] <aeon-ltd> Someus: application support is the same
[07:25] <hje841> KI7MT, okay, thanks anyway. I think I'll call it a night. maybe I'll try VB another day
[07:25] <Someus> Can i install  LXDE, XFCE on Ubuntu?
[07:25] <hitsujiTMO> forehand: no sign there, can you pastebin: ls -l /etc/init/
[07:25] <aeon-ltd> yes
[07:26] <Futhorc> apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[07:26] <Futhorc> then log out, click the little circle, select Lubuntu
[07:26] <KI7MT> hje841, ok sri we could not get that sorted out.
[07:26] <hje841> KI7MT, np
[07:27] <Someus> Thanks Futhorc, aeon-ltd, KI7MT
[07:27] <aeon-ltd> Someus: i'm assuming you are running intel or amd, those processors are x86_64 it supports everything that is x86_64 which is everything a standard user would use
[07:27] <Someus> Yes i use AMD Sempron Mobile
[07:28] <Someus> I dont want to reinstall OS :)
[07:28] <aeon-ltd> Someus: you don't have to
[07:28] <Someus> Good
[07:28] <forehand> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/4rP9qFC0
[07:28] <hitsujiTMO> forehand: ahh, i see it. sudo service isc-dhcp-server reload && sudo service isc-dhcp-server6 reload
[07:28] <hitsujiTMO> forehand: if it doesn't respond to a reload, try a restart
[07:29] <Someus> What about Ubuntu 13.10? Can i install and tweak it fast?
[07:29] <aeon-ltd> Someus: lubuntu-desktop is a collection of packages called a meta-package, it gives you everything the default install of lubuntu does. installing it just like you use software centre/apt-get/synaptics
[07:29] <Someus> ah okey
[07:30] <aeon-ltd> Someus: i think 12.04 is no longer supported, so a more up to date version may be better for security and support
[07:30] <hateball> !lts
[07:30] <forehand> hitsujiTMO: Both those commands completed succesfully.  Still not getting updated info on my client.
[07:30] <KI7MT> Someus, also, you can install both adn test them from the log in screen, sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop or xubuntu-desktop and see how they perform for you.
[07:30] <Fou> lickalott you there
[07:30] <aeon-ltd> hateball: thanks
[07:31] <Someus> What's the differene between those desktops?
[07:31] <aeon-ltd> Someus: looks like you'll be good til 2016/17
[07:31] <Someus> :) yes
[07:31] <hitsujiTMO> forehand: sudo service isc-dhcp-server restart && sudo service isc-dhcp-server6 restart      then force a renew on the client
[07:31] <aeon-ltd> Someus: difference between 12.04 and 13.10?
[07:32] <Someus> Xubuntu and Lubuntu
[07:32] <KI7MT> Someus, like said earlier, one uses LDXE and one uses Xfce  .. with Xfce being the lightest.
[07:32] <jefersen> how do you install any tar.gz file?
[07:32] <Futhorc> 12.04 is supported for 5 years, interim releases like 13.10 last for 9 months
[07:32] <KI7MT> jefersen, you dont, you extract it.
[07:32] <ObrienDave> LDXE is lightest
[07:33] <jefersen> i did
[07:33] <forehand> hitsujiTMO: isc-dhcp-server6 restart returned "stop: Unknown instance:  isc-dhcp-server6 stop/waiting"
[07:33] <jefersen> now?
[07:33] <hitsujiTMO> forehand: have you ipv6 configured?
[07:33] <Someus> It was so hard for me to get WiFi working on this PC. It has Broadcom wifi adapter
[07:33] <KI7MT> ObrienDave, resource wise, Xubuntu uses the least amount of resources, of the ubuntu flavors at least.
[07:33] <muindor> hey all. having some kind weird error on a machine. im making a backup via cron to a rdx cartridge. the backup usually runs fine, but as soon as there has been one day pause (weekend for example or forgot to put in cartridge one day) he wont be able to mount the cartridge with the error "special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist". but this error only occurs, when there has been a pause between the days. if it runs on monday it will run tue, we
[07:33] <forehand> hitsujiTMO: don't think so.  Don't care about it at this point.
[07:34] <hitsujiTMO> KI7MT: actually thats lubuntu
[07:34] <Someus> Thanks a lot everyone!
[07:34] <ObrienDave> Someus, I prefer XFCE (Xubuntu). it's light, fast and just plain works well
[07:34] <hitsujiTMO> forehand: then you can ignore that
[07:34] <Futhorc> LXDE uses less
[07:34] <Someus> ObrienDav thanks.
[07:34] <muindor> i then will have to log on manually, mount / umount the device manually and then it will run again next time
[07:34] <aeon-ltd> Someus: xubuntu uses the xfce desktop environment, lubuntu uses openbox and lxpanel (in a way it is less 'whole', unlike gnome/xfce it's more of a collection of individual packages used together for a desktop environment)
[07:34] <forehand> after I do a renew on the client I still see stail info.  I am thinking this may be a problem with the client?
[07:34] <Someus> yeah ok
[07:35] <KI7MT> ObrienDave, Someus  this is 12.10, but close enough: http://mylinuxexplore.blogspot.com/2012/04/ubuntu-1204-vs-xubuntu-1204-vs-kubuntu.html
[07:35] <Futhorc> Plus it looks more like XP, which is a bonus
[07:35] <Fou> is there a way to have 1 of my 2 nic cards to boot up first ?
[07:35] <Futhorc> Xfce still has the oldgnome two panel up/down look
[07:35] <hitsujiTMO> forehand: yes its a client issue most likely. can you reboot the client to scheck?
[07:35] <Futhorc> (i think?)
[07:35] <Someus> Why Gnome is so heavy?
[07:35] <Someus> I like it actually
[07:35] <forehand> hitsujiTMO: It's already been initiated
[07:35] <KI7MT> Ask Gnome Project :-)
[07:36] <forehand> hitsujiTMO: Still shows the same info o_o
[07:36] <saty999> Hi, I have Installed Nvidia FX 5500 card drivers ..the latest one NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-173.14.39-pkg2.run. However, after rebooting The 12.04 Unity desktop still remains as normal 2D
[07:36] <aeon-ltd> Someus: are you currently using effects? windows vista like animations?
[07:36]  * ObrienDave will NOT start a DE war with unarmed people ;P
[07:36] <hitsujiTMO> forehand: then its an issue wuth the server. can you check the configs again
[07:37] <Someus> aeon-ltd yes
[07:37] <saty999> Could some one help me with this?
[07:37] <forehand> hitsujiTMO: /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf = http://pastebin.com/bik7MadH
[07:37] <aeon-ltd> Someus: from something called compiz?
[07:37] <Someus> I dont know
[07:37] <forehand> hitsujiTMO: on The_Pugilist client I am seeing the domain name as "mydomain.example".
[07:37] <Someus> I have clean 12.04 install
[07:37] <Someus> Gnome fading effects
[07:38] <Someus> etc.
[07:38] <Someus> It boots up fast but browsing is laggy
[07:38] <Someus> Video watching is laggy sometimes
[07:38] <aeon-ltd> Someus: when you browse, try to monitor what's maxing out
[07:38] <Futhorc> Xubuntu it is with a Nvidia FX then with 12.04
[07:38] <Someus> How can i monitor?
[07:39] <aeon-ltd> there's an activity monitor application somewhere in the default install
[07:39] <Futhorc> Or you can try turning off Visual Effects
[07:39] <Someus> yes found System monitor
[07:39] <forehand> That is the right conf file I believe.
[07:39] <isosceles> So unity is all messed up, as usual. Do other people have a constant ebb and flow of sever window management bugs? i don't mean annoying bugs, but hindering bugs, e.g. the close, minimize and maximize buttons disappear (no, they're not at the top panel either). but that is one of a hundred examples. unity is miles from the goal post, correct?
[07:40] <Someus> How com i have only 875mb ram
[07:40] <Someus> :)
[07:40] <aeon-ltd> how much should you have?
[07:40] <Someus> 1gb
[07:40] <aeon-ltd> your graphics card may be sharing ram
[07:41] <aeon-ltd> what is it?
[07:41] <Someus> Actually.. ATI i think
[07:41] <Someus> AMD one
[07:42] <ObrienDave> amd is shared
[07:42] <hitsujiTMO> forehand: all seems ok there. cant think of what it could be. maybe a cache issue on the server. I would expect the cache to be dropped on a restart but that might not be happening
[07:42] <aeon-ltd> Someus: well if you get the exact model you can google whether if it shares ram with the main system
[07:42] <forehand> hitsujiTMO: "sudo grep "mydomain.example" */*.*" found no results.
[07:42] <forehand> I could reboot the server.
[07:42] <KI7MT> Switching to an HTML5 browser can help with on-line Vids too, also DL speeds can affect streaming .. it's not always the OS causing the issue.
[07:43] <isosceles> what's the best room to get real help in? i don't want to give up but i'm not able to function efficiently with an unstable OS. is it ubuntu? is it other software i install?
[07:43] <hitsujiTMO> Someus: every device you have on your laptop reserves an amount of ram that gets taken from the system total size
[07:43] <Someus> http://i43.tinypic.com/2i2ahe9.png
[07:43] <Someus> And almost all ram is busy already
[07:44] <Someus> :(
[07:44] <aeon-ltd> isosceles: i have no idea how to diagnose that, besides updating gpu drivers using alternative drivers and updating unity.
[07:44] <hitsujiTMO> isosceles: to be honest, i've never heard of such an issue. Are you using any particular themes?
[07:44] <KI7MT> isosceles, you've not really stated a specific problem, rather, you've made a generalization or stated observations, if you have specifics on a problem, state them and folks can help, There's allot of knowledgeable folks in this room.
[07:44] <aeon-ltd> Someus: could you take a shot of the processes?
[07:45] <Someus> ok
[07:45] <isosceles> i use unity tweak to make minor adjustments, like fonts.
[07:45] <ObrienDave> isosceles, and trying to fix "one of a hundred examples" would take at least, all night :)
[07:46] <Someus> http://i39.tinypic.com/2zno58x.png
[07:46] <forehand> hitsujiTMO: restarting now
[07:46] <KI7MT> Someus, also in the monitor, under processes, click on the memory column, twice, to get the highest uage to the top.
[07:46] <hitsujiTMO> isosceles: what version of unbuntu is this btw?
[07:47] <isosceles> KI7MT: okay, but hard to know where to begin. every week it's something new. lately, my close, min and max buttons will disappear on me.
[07:47] <isosceles> 13.10
[07:47] <hitsujiTMO> isosceles: are you using any ppas?
[07:48] <isosceles> also, suddenly programs are freezing. not one program, but many, very recently
[07:48] <Someus> http://i43.tinypic.com/21lpuzn.png
[07:48] <isosceles> remind me what a ppa is?
[07:48] <hawa> is there a pdf reader that can hightlight lines
[07:48] <hitsujiTMO> isosceles: can you give us an idea of the make up of the system. how much ram, what cpu, etc
[07:49] <hitsujiTMO> isosceles: if you don't know what a ppa is, then you're most likely not using one. its a way of adding additional small repos to gain extra software. Some of them can contain unstable extras
[07:49] <aeon-ltd> isosceles: like unofficial repositories of softare
[07:49] <aeon-ltd> *software
[07:49] <isosceles> 8GM RAM, i5-3210M @ 2.50GHz x 4
[07:50] <isosceles> i may have added repos in the past, but it has been a while and i may have done a clean install since.
[07:50] <hitsujiTMO> isosceles: can you pastebin the output of: free -m         and df -h
[07:50] <aeon-ltd> Someus: heh there's ~90mb of ram to be freed if you don't run steam :)
[07:51] <Wiz_KeeD> Hey guys, can someone help me with an expression in english that says "You cannot rush things or...if you rush you will do more harm than good" something like he who pays cheap pays twice
[07:51] <celroc> Wiz_KeeD: I'm sorry, but I think this may not be the proper channel for that category of question
[07:52] <isosceles> Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[07:52] <isosceles> /dev/sda6        34G  7.5G   25G  24% /
[07:52] <isosceles> none            4.0K     0  4.0K   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
[07:52] <isosceles> udev            3.9G  4.0K  3.9G   1% /dev
[07:52] <isosceles> tmpfs           789M  1.2M  788M   1% /run
[07:52] <FloodBot1> isosceles: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:52] <isosceles> none            5.0M     0  5.0M   0% /run/lock
[07:52] <Wiz_KeeD> I know I just tried maybe anybody knew, everone here is very helpful thought some might know
[07:52] <Wiz_KeeD> ouch...banned
[07:52] <aeon-ltd> Wiz_KeeD: they have a word for that, prudent
[07:52] <Wiz_KeeD> hehe :D
[07:52] <celroc> Wiz_KeeD: Ah, right, gotcha ;-)
[07:53] <Futhorc> Sensitive channel admins ;)
[07:55] <isosceles> hitsujiTMO: pardon the flood. i used pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6592995/
[07:56] <KI7MT> hawa, have a look into Okular and Inkscape ..
[07:56] <hitsujiTMO> isosceles: nothing out of the ordinary there. can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:57] <forehand> hitsujiTMO: No dice.  Trying another client
[07:59] <isosceles> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6593013/
[07:59] <forehand> hitsujiTMO: Tried another client that has never been connected.  See same stail info.  What could this be?
[08:00] <celroc> Wiz_KeeD: How about "Time gained through rushing is lost in repairing" meaning that the time you save in a rush is often lost trying to repair what went wrong?
[08:00] <KI7MT> Is this like a home work assignment or something?
[08:00] <Wiz_KeeD> celroc, that's perfect! thanks man :D
[08:01] <hitsujiTMO> isosceles: ok, seeing something VERY bizarre there.
[08:01] <Wiz_KeeD> I also got another funny suggestion "If you rush a miracle man, you get rotten miracles"
[08:01] <celroc> Wiz_KeeD: Certainly, glad you liked it.
[08:01] <isosceles> all ears
[08:01] <hitsujiTMO> isosceles: what way exactly did you upgrade from 13.04?
[08:01] <isosceles> clean install on top of windows 7
[08:02] <forehand> hitsujiTMO: hey I found the "old" settings in  /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf  Why do I have two dhcp confs?
[08:02] <hitsujiTMO> forehand: hmm, that i'm not sure
[08:03] <hitsujiTMO> isosceles: but when you upgraded from 13.04, how exactly did you do it?
[08:03] <imghost> Wiz_KeeD, celroc, do you have any ubuntu related questions? if no then join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:04] <hitsujiTMO> isosceles: did you just change the instances of raring to saucy in the sources.list?
[08:05] <isosceles> hitsujiTMO: i backed up everything, formatted and partitioned my hard drive, installed windows 7... after that the details are fuzzy, but it seemed like a clear process of installing grub and doing a basic dual boot installation. i had everything on cds.
[08:05] <celroc> imghost: Thanks for reminding me about that channel.  I guess I did make some off-topic posts, didn't I?  I guess I do actually have an ubuntu question, though...  I might as well post it
[08:05] <isosceles> hitsujiTMO: i don't know anything about that
[08:06] <hitsujiTMO> isosceles: your sources.list says otherwise it seems. first line is from the raring cd: # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 13.04 _Raring Ringtail_ - Release amd64 (20130424)]/ raring main restricted
[08:06] <imghost> celroc, whats your bug?
[08:06] <forehand> hitsujiTMO: Either way I got the info updated.  On my client I get no response to 8.8.8.8.
[08:06] <KI7MT> isosceles, This may not be relevant to a specific problem, but if your looking for max stability and consistent performance,  12.04 is where you should be, all the 13 series releases are EOL by APR-2014 .. there step stones to the next LTS.
[08:06] <celroc> Does anyone here know if there is a way to set up Samba access to a folder so that anyone on the network can get to it with no username or password?  Specifically, I'm trying to use Ubuntu to host a bunch of music files that would be picked up by a Grace Digital Internet Radio....
[08:06] <isosceles> hitsujiTMO: ok, i do remember now... installed 13.04 on top of windows, later upgraded
[08:07] <KI7MT> I take that bake, 13.10 is JUL-2014  .. but still.
[08:07] <imghost> celroc, https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/samba-fileserver.html
[08:08] <isosceles> KI7MT: good to know. i think i'd like to stick it out, but had i known, i would have stayed with 12.04. All advice seemed to point to using the latest.
[08:08] <hitsujiTMO> isosceles: the issue might be a botched upgrade. If you had used any dodgy ppas or added odd repos then that could have caused some problems in your system with the upgrade. it would explain the instability
[08:08] <hitsujiTMO> isosceles: for such an issue a clean install of 13.10 would be recommended
[08:09] <celroc> imghost: Thank you, appreciate that.  I've got a fresh Ubuntu install going right now, hopefully I'll be able to try that out in just a minute.
[08:09] <JoshDreamland> Hi; on a brand new Saucy installation, with universe and multiverse enabled, I encounter the following error when running sudo apt-get install nvidia-cuda-toolkit: The following packages have unmet dependencies: nvidia-cuda-toolkit : Depends: nvidia-profiler (= 5.0.35-7ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed
[08:09] <isosceles> hitsujiTMO: i was hoping for a tweak that would make it all better. are you sure that a reinstall is the best course of action?
[08:09] <KI7MT> isosceles, Also, LTS to LTS upgrade well tested and supported, 2nd level upg's re generally not recommended, like 12.03 up to 13.10 or the like, 2 levels is asking for troubles on the interim LTS releases.
[08:10] <hitsujiTMO> isosceles: when thes issues with an upgrade then the only course of action is a reainstall i'm afraid
[08:10] <isosceles> KI7MT: point taken. i have not skipped releases in upgrading.
[08:10] <imghost> celroc, sure first read it from the site and if you encounter any problem then feel free to ask, fyi when you create workgroup there you can set the user settings like which user can get access etc
[08:10] <JoshDreamland> Same for the nvidia-cuda-dev dependency; they can't be met for some reason. Brand new installation. Only thing I did was sudo -e /etc/apt/sources.list, uncomment the multiverse sources, and then apt-get update.
[08:11] <isosceles> hitsujiTMO: ok, i appreciate the advice. can i stick it out until April, or will it get worse?
[08:11] <hitsujiTMO> isosceles: I don't see it getting worse. it's just unpredictable to be honest
[08:12] <KI7MT> JoshDreamland, when I install CUDA stuff for number crunching on my GPU farm, it's done withe the source binaries from Nvidia.
[08:12] <celroc> imghost: Thanks.  I had some troubles getting it set up with another distro, but then again I didn't really know what I was doing.  I think this article might explain it a little better
[08:12] <hitsujiTMO> JoshDreamland: can you pastebin your current current sources.list
[08:13] <imghost> celroc, no problem :)
[08:14] <JoshDreamland> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/sDWtRet1
[08:15] <Wiz_KeeD> I did not know this about ubuntu...https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/995011_697361476952700_1592811254_n.jpg
[08:16] <JoshDreamland> I thought Ubuntu meant "I can't configure Debian" :P
[08:16] <forehand> I have a dhcp server setup.  I connect a client to it.  The client can ping the server, but the server can not ping the client.  I see the client in dhcpd.leases.  Any idea on why the client can't ping the server?
[08:16] <oversize> msg nickserv identify 5tg68hc
[08:16] <Wiz_KeeD> hahaha nice on JoshDreamland
[08:16] <aeon-ltd> uhhh change that password
[08:17] <forehand> I meant, does anyone have an idea why the server can't ping the client.
[08:17] <aeon-ltd> oversize: ...
[08:17] <celroc> forehand: Sometimes clients may have ICMP disabled... do you know if the client has any iptables rules or anything that would block a ping set up?
[08:18] <hitsujiTMO> JoshDreamland: can you pastebin the output of: apt-cache policy nvidia-profiler
[08:19] <forehand> celroc: The client is a windows 8.1 tablet.  I can try an ubuntu client.
[08:19] <JoshDreamland> sure; just a sec. I told it to run a dist-upgrade just in case.
[08:20] <JoshDreamland> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/qL2H4CPm
[08:20] <imghost> forehand, are you able to ping servers static ip?
[08:20] <celroc> forehand: Ah.  I don't know much about tablets, sorry.  I'm not sure that they would block pinging by default or not.  Usually it's not blocked unless explicitly told to
[08:21] <forehand> celroc, imghost Just tried an ubuntu laptop.  When it tries to ping it gets "operation not permitted".  When the servers tried to ping it, it returns nothing.
[08:21] <hitsujiTMO> JoshDreamland: whats the output of: sudo apt-get install nvidia-profiler
[08:22] <JoshDreamland>  nvidia-profiler : Depends: libcuda-5.0-1 but it is not installable
[08:22] <imghost> forehand, whats the output of ping 8.8.8.8
[08:22] <Ben64> woot
[08:22] <Ben64> i'm #1 on dogepool.pw
[08:22] <hitsujiTMO> JoshDreamland: apt-cache policy libcuda-5.0-1
[08:22] <Ben64> go go collection of crappy computers
[08:22] <forehand> same response, "not allowed"
[08:23] <KI7MT> celroc, check to see if the firewall is enabled on your tablet, normall is by defualt, and there's an ICMP settign that is also enabled by default to not allow this.
[08:23] <JoshDreamland> installed: none, candidate: none, version table: <empty>
[08:23] <JoshDreamland> it's a virtual package
[08:23] <cristian_c> Hi
[08:23] <cristian_c> I've tried bustle-dbus-monitor and bustle
[08:24] <hitsujiTMO> JoshDreamland: do you actually have the nvidia drivers installed?
[08:24] <imghost> forehand, paste the output of /etc/network/interfaces
[08:25] <JoshDreamland> I'm making sure of that now, hitsujiTMO
[08:25] <cristian_c> In the various tests I've done, I have not seen activity about mouse and keyboard connected
[08:25] <KI7MT> celroc, not a UB topic but here's a quick check fer win8: http://www.briangirton.org/2013/03/windows-8-enable-ping/
[08:25] <forehand> imghost: command not found
[08:26] <imghost> forehand, you are not using ubuntu server?
[08:26] <cristian_c> devices work but are not announced in bustle
[08:26] <forehand> imghost: No, it's edubuntu
[08:27] <cristian_c> at the same time, the only information shown by bustle are those related to applications
[08:27] <hitsujiTMO> JoshDreamland: also can you pastebin the output of: lspci
[08:28] <cristian_c> may be bustle is not the right program to detect the activity of the devices?
[08:28] <forehand> imghost: Found it: http://pastebin.com/03z2tJXv
[08:28] <cristian_c> and if so, what is the right program to monitor this activity?
[08:28] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[08:29] <JoshDreamland> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/7VE5bSrk - line 15 is probably what you're looking for
[08:30] <celroc> KI7MT: Thanks, sorry, had to step away for a moment.  I think it was forehand that had the tablet; I was just trying to help troubleshoot
[08:30] <hitsujiTMO> JoshDreamland: nvidia-319 ftw :P
[08:30] <JoshDreamland> er, my bad; I ran that last command on the wrong machine, hitsujiTMO. This is it: http://pastebin.com/JYyzVLTn
[08:31] <KI7MT> celroc, oh ok.
[08:31] <forehand> celroc, KI7MT:  I swapped the tablet out for another ubuntu client.  Now having trouble pinging either direction, but the client is getting correct dhcp set.
[08:31] <celroc> forehand: Sorry, stepped away for a moment.  I'm not sure what an "Operation not permitted" means.  I'll try to research it
[08:31] <imghost> forehand, there is no broadcast, network and gateway only your local servers address
[08:32] <imghost> forehand, try to reconfigure your dhcp
[08:32] <celroc> forehand: Is the error message that you got "Ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted"?
[08:32] <JoshDreamland> bleh, I'm going to give it a rest, hitsujiTMO. Thanks for your help!
[08:33] <forehand> imghost: I'll set tjhose,
[08:33] <forehand> celroc: not it was ping: sendmsg
[08:34] <imghost> forehand, ok :)
[08:34] <helmut_> hi
[08:35] <forehand> imghost: What should I set gateway to?
[08:35] <celroc> forehand: According to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=812644 it may be a firewall/IPtables thing.  Apparently that message comes up when a machine can't send an ping outbound
[08:35] <mick__> witam wszystkich.Pierwszy raz więc sprawdzam jak to działa i o co chodzi .czyli jak bedę potrzebował np pomocy , a ktoś bedzie wiedział co i jak to mogę liczyć ?? Pozdrawiam
[08:38] <imghost> forehand, first read the link that celroc gave you i think he his right your machine is not allowed to send the pings
[08:39] <KI7MT> celroc, forehand for this to working properly, dont have to setup up a subnet to issue IP addy's withing that range?
[08:42] <celroc> forehand: You may want to run "sudo iptables -L" on your Ubuntu laptop and see if there are lines with icmp listed
[08:42] <cristian_c> Another question
[08:43] <celroc> KI7MT: Such a thing goes over my head, I'm afraid.  Networking isn't really my  forte
[08:44] <cristian_c> I've launched a script with: su - $USER -c
[08:44] <KI7MT> celroc, forehand he has 2 nics, one is for the gateway, the 2nd for the DHCP server to listen on, and that's has to have a subnet range I'm pretty sure, I can go dig it out.
[08:44] <cristian_c> How can I redirect an echo command to a file?
[08:45] <falematte> Guys, I have Ubuntu 12.04. If I open empathy account to add my facebook one it crashes. What can I do?
[08:45] <cristian_c> echo "hi" > filename
[08:45] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[08:45] <falematte> cristian_c, echo WHATUWANT >filename
[08:45] <cristian_c> fale, I get error
[08:46] <celroc> cristian_c: What error does it give you?
[08:46] <cristian_c> falematte, file is not created
[08:46] <cristian_c> celroc, stdin: is not a tty
[08:47] <cristian_c> celroc, tee is not working also
[08:47] <mhahe> is it normal for openssh-server to as for privatekey passphrase on login? is this insecure?
[08:47] <KI7MT> celroc, , forehand also, if a DCHP already exists on the LAN, like a home router or whatever, going to have collisions.
[08:47] <falematte> cristian_c, echo "ciao" > prova creates a file for me
[08:47] <falematte> Guys, I have Ubuntu 12.04. If I open empathy account to add my facebook one it crashes. What can I do?
[08:48] <cristian_c> fale, but if I launch a script in that way, it's not created
[08:48] <celroc> cristian_c: I'm not sure, but I usually run commands like: su -c 'command' $USER
[08:48] <cristian_c> falematte, but if I launch a script in that way, it's not created
[08:48] <hitsujiTMO> mhahano thats secure. thats the ssh agent asking you to unlock your local private key. that info has nothing to do with the server
[08:48] <cristian_c> celroc, ok, I'll try
[08:48] <cristian_c> thanks
[08:48] <hitsujiTMO> mhahe^
[08:48] <cristian_c> :)
[08:48] <falematte> cristian_c, try to execute "echo "ciao"" It works?
[08:48] <falematte> cristian_c, explain better
[08:49] <cristian_c> falematte, yes
[08:50] <falematte> Guys, I have Ubuntu 12.04. If I open empathy account to add my facebook one it crashes. What can I do?
[08:51] <celroc> KI7MT: Thanks for helping us, by the way!  These things go a bit out of my area of expertise
[08:51] <KI7MT> forehand, do you need a DHCP server (for multiple boxes) or just INET connectivity to a second box from the first?
[08:54] <celroc> cristian_c: After the -c option, is the command you are trying to run inside quotes?
[08:55] <cristian_c> celroc, yes, double quotes
[08:56] <celroc> cristian_c: By the way, I stand corrected, your original su command appears to work.
[08:58] <celroc> cristian_c: su - $USER -c "echo "statement" > Test_statement.txt " works for me.  Does it give an error on your machine?
[08:59] <cristian_c> celroc, ok, echo "hi" | tee filename prints 'hi' but it doesn't create filename. Instead, echo "hi' > filename does nothing
[08:59] <cristian_c> celroc, no, i'm using: su - $USER -c "sh /usr/local/sbin/script.sh"
[09:00] <celroc> cristian_c: Oh, I see, thanks.  Let me whip up a script and try it
[09:00] <jnhghy> cristian_c: do you have correct rights on the folder where you do "echo 'hi' > filename" ?
[09:01] <cristian_c> jnhghy, It's my home directory
[09:03] <jnhghy> cristian_c: try with full path "echo 'hi' > /home/..."
[09:04] <cristian_c> jnhghy, ok
[09:08] <Someus> Hi. I have problem. I have Ubuntu 12.04 and my mouse is lagging and seems like whole PC is freezing in Login screen
[09:08] <Someus> But when i login PC works well.
[09:08] <celroc> cristian_c: I tried making a simple script with an echo command and it seems to work for me.  Perhaps there is an error in the script itself?
[09:08] <Someus> Like every few seconds mouse is freezing in login screen
[09:08] <Someus> But in desktop it works perfect
[09:09] <falematte> Guys, I have Ubuntu 12.04. If I open empathy account to add my facebook one it crashes. What can I do?
[09:10] <cristian_c> celroc, the script is: echo "hi" > filename
[09:10] <jefersen> does anyone know if there is a way to get additional touch features on ubuntu 13.10 on the pc
[09:11] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[09:11] <xpirator> Hi, there~
[09:11] <KI7MT> celroc, that statement was nice, got a Mark Twain Quote :-)
[09:11] <celroc> cristian_c: Oh, okay, we can rule out that, then.  Hmm...
[09:11] <Someus> Hello my mouse is jerky in Ubuntu login screen but not in desktop screen. ANyone knows why?
[09:12] <xpirator> I have a question. Is there a way to authenticate a user in linux machine remotely?
[09:12] <celroc> KI7MT: Beg pardon?  What statement?
[09:12] <xpirator> for examples, expiring a user at some day.
[09:13] <KI7MT> celroc, su - $USER -c "echo "statement" > Test_statement.txt "
[09:13] <KI7MT> I get some quote of the day or somethign when I ran it
[09:14] <finkel> Guys, do you know if language switching is fixed in Ubuntu? I used to Shift+Caps to switch language and right Alt for typographic symbols. Is it possible now?
[09:14] <celroc> KI7MT: Hmm?  That's.... really not supposed to happen O.O  You shouldn't get any output back out of that statement
[09:14] <Jordan_U> KI7MT: I assume that was your machine's message of the day which someone has configured to print interesting quotes.
[09:15] <KI7MT> Hmm interesting .. it's giving me QOTD stuff different each time.
[09:15] <Jordan_U> celroc: You did start a login shell.
[09:15] <celroc> KI7MT: Oh...  Jordan_U got it, I think.  That command will log you in again and will print any pre-defined login messages
[09:15] <Jordan_U> KI7MT: Tell you sysadmin that their MOTD script should check for an interactive terminal.
[09:15] <Jordan_U> s/you/your/
[09:16] <airking> Anyone know how to put Gnome 3 on 13.10?
[09:16] <hitsujiTMO> KI7MT: whats the name of the user?
[09:16] <KI7MT> Jordan_U, celroc  yes, I'm getting Shakespeare and Twain all sorts :-)
[09:16] <KI7MT> Im the user
[09:17] <hitsujiTMO> KI7MT: whats the actual name tho? is it the same as an app that gives quotes by any chanve?
[09:17] <celroc> cristian_c: Hi, sorry, are you still here?  It looks like a lot of people got disconnected
[09:18] <cristian_c> celroc, I'm here
[09:18] <asm0dey> Guys, do you know if language switching is fixed in Ubuntu? I used to Shift+Caps to switch language and right Alt for typographic symbols. Is it possible now?
[09:18] <Beldar> airking, install the gnome-shell
[09:18] <celroc> cristian_c: Ah, good
[09:18] <KI7MT> hitsujiTMO, may be, it's the only account on this box, my sudo account.
[09:18] <airking> Beldar: If it was that simple I wouldn't be here
[09:19] <Beldar> airking, gnome 3 in ubuntu is the gnome shell, can you be more clear?
[09:20] <hitsujiTMO> KI7MT: sudo apt-get remove fortune
[09:20] <celroc> cristian_c: I'm not sure why it's giving you that error.  I can't seem to reproduce it on my machine
[09:21] <KI7MT> hitsujiTMO, I know why, in Guake term I ahd the user switched, to su .. now with my normal user, not getting MOTD
[09:21] <anternat> wowwwwwwwwwzeRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRr
[09:22] <anternat> what was that
[09:22] <anternat> bott-net
[09:22] <k1l_> !netsplit | anternat
[09:22] <anternat> yeah i know
[09:22] <k1l_> freenode is very famous for that
[09:22] <anternat> ty anyway k1l_
[09:22] <anternat> but that really smelled like bots :)
[09:24] <hitsujiTMO> cristian_c: is it anything to do with not having permissions to write the file?
[09:24] <DasEi> ^ ^ relax and enjoy the show, hahaha
[09:24] <IntheJar> :)
[09:25] <emx> where do mails sent by sendmail go in a default desktop installation?
[09:27] <llutz> emx: /var/mail/$USER
[09:28] <emx> llutz, the folder is empty :-/
[09:29] <stefanoschy> salve
[09:31] <GabrieleV> Hello, I have the software updater window unresizable and unusable, like this: http://images.inside-irc.net/image/window-ersuw1iofqt.png Someone has a tip on how to reset it ? Thank you !
[09:31] <llutz> emx: but your sendmail works? check logs
[09:32] <emx> llutz, i just realise that postfix is installed. let's see what it does.
[09:33] <celroc> GabrieleV: If you hover the mouse over any of the corners, does it change to the resize cursor?
[09:33] <zeorin> Hello, I have some questions about installing ubuntu to the tf201 tablet. I'm currently able to install Ubuntu 12.04 using instructions from http://lifeinarootshell.blogspot.it/ But I'm not completely satisfied with the result
[09:33] <GabrieleV> celroc, No, unfortunately mouse pointer does not change to let resize the window :-(
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> zeorin: can you expand on the question please
[09:34] <mikodo> I want to install a Xfce DE from Ubuntu server. Do I need to install the graphics server (xserver-xorg) manually along with this < sudo apt-get install xfce4 lightdm-gtk-greeter >
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> GabrieleV: in a terminal, run:  cat /etc/issue     what is output please?
[09:35] <zeorin> When I try to upgrade the distro version I run into errors, the wifi is intermittent. I can get around the distro install errors by prefixing LC_ALL=C.UTF-8 in front of do-release-upgrade, but there are problems with the result, it complains about the kernel packages, because the kernel is actually separate from the root fs
[09:35] <llutz> emx: you may check /var/spool/mail/ too
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> mikodo: why didnt you just instal Xubuntu?
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> zeorin: can you please pastebin the full output of:  sudo apt-get update
[09:35] <GabrieleV> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[09:35] <celroc> GabrieleV: According to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyboardShortcuts there may be a few key combos that might help.  With it being the active window, try Alt+F8 (don't hold down Ctrl, though)
[09:35] <emx> llutz, it's a symlink to /var/mail ^^ but i noticed there is a var/spool/postfix
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> GabrieleV: try:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get --reinstall install software-center
[09:35] <mikodo> ActionParsnip, I have Xubuntu many different versions. I want a 5 year supported Xfce LTS
[09:36] <geirha> GabrieleV: Did you get a popup about a crash report earlier? it looks a bit like the software updater has crashed
[09:36] <GabrieleV> celroc, I'll try now
[09:36] <emx> llutz, but there is nothing usable inside.
[09:36] <GabrieleV> ActionParsnip, will try if former fails
[09:37] <GabrieleV> geirha, no, only power failure
[09:37] <zeorin> I also want to use the nvidia-tegra3 package because it's a tegra3 SoC. I've installed the nvidia tegra 3 drivers from nvidia's site itself but I'd rather have it done through apt-get, which requires that I am at least on 12.10, not 12.04 (I reverted back).
[09:37] <emx> then i have to rephrase: how do i store mails in files that are supposed to go outbound?
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> mikodo: Xubuntu 12.04 is LTS and supported 5 yers
[09:37] <mikodo> ActionParsnip, NO it is supported 3 years
[09:38] <asm0dey> Guys, do you know if language switching is fixed in Ubuntu? I used to Shift+Caps to switch language and right Alt for typographic symbols. Is it possible now?
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> mikodo: so it is, but installing XFCE on Server will not give you 5 years support, it will be 3 years as you are using a desktop OS
[09:39] <GabrieleV> celroc, alt-f8 does nothing ont this window. On other it works.
[09:39] <jefersen> how can i edit a .py file from the terminal?
[09:39] <mikodo> ActionParsnip, Thanks. I will have to think about this. Good evening
[09:39] <zeorin> Ideally I'd like to be on the most current release. I think the best thing to do might be to 'roll my own' starting version of ubuntu and use the arm tree from there. How would I go about doing that? Or does anyone known another way to have a proper (not broken packages version) of ubuntu on the tf201 (ASUS EeePad Transformer Prime). I'm very willing to learn and quite capable with Linux, Ubuntu, and even programming. I'm just quite lost at the moment. Any
[09:39] <zeorin>  help would be *most* welcome.
[09:40] <celroc> GabrieleV: Hmm, okay, it looks like there is another one we could try:  Alt+F5 might help
[09:40] <k1l_> zeorin: there is #ubuntu-arm for arm specific questions
[09:40] <GabrieleV> celroc, alt-f5 does nothing at all
[09:41] <zeorin> Sorry guys... I'm in the wrong channel... Thanks
[09:41] <mikodo> ActionParsnip, If Xfce DE is in the repos, it should be supported for as long as the LTS is supported which would be five years
[09:42] <celroc> GabrieleV: If you have a three-button mouse, it looks like holding down ALT then middle-clicking the window can let you resize a window if you have Desktop Effects enabled
[09:42] <mikodo> ActionParsnip, Supported 5 years with Server install
[09:44] <k1l_> mikodo: ubuntu and server packages are supported 5 years. lubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu and gnome ubuntu choose their own support windows
[09:44] <GabrieleV> celroc, nothing to do. Question: can you resize this window ?
[09:44] <GabrieleV> ActionParsnip, nothing to do neither reinstalling
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> mikodo: but when you install XFCE, you will have a desktop OS, so 3 years
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> mikodo: you could install Saucy, then in April upgrade directly to Trusty which is LTS (Even Lubuntu is LTS in 14.04)
[09:46] <ObrienDave> Xubuntu also
[09:46] <celroc> GabrieleV: I'll try to check.  I have Ubuntu in a VM at the moment, and I don't think I have the latest version
[09:46] <GabrieleV> celroc, I think it's not resizable
[09:47] <KI7MT> ActionParsnip, I thought starting with 12.04,  desktop LTS and server were both 5 support now has that changed?
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> KI7MT: Xubuntu 12.04 is not fll LTS, Nor is Lubuntu 12.04
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> KI7MT: http://xubuntu.org/news/12-04-release/
[09:48] <KI7MT> ActionParsnip, Ahh I see, just the officual Ubuntu is 5 then, got it.
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> KI7MT: Xubuntu is official, just not full LTS
[09:49] <KI7MT> Ok thanks.
[09:50] <celroc> GabrieleV: Hmm, the window where it's actually checking for updates doesn't seem resizable for me on 13.04, but the one it should bring up after that that lists the specific packages should be
[09:51] <mikodo> K1L_, Xfce packages are not Xubuntu though, just packages that can be installed in Ubuntu Server repos so, should give someone 5 years bug and security updates
[09:51] <k1l_> mikodo: i am sure you are mixing a lot of stuff here
[09:52] <mikodo> Trying to
[09:52] <k1l_> mikodo: see the link from ActionParsnip
[09:52] <mikodo> Sorry, didn't see it.
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> mikodo: 12.04 can also be upgraded direct to 14.04 in April next year as LTS to LTS upgrades are supported
[09:53] <mikodo> Oh, that is Xubuntu, not Xfce
[09:53] <mikodo> ActionParsnip, Yes thx.
[09:57] <mikodo> Thanks guy, Much Food for thought, but to my original question:   With a Ubuntu server install, to install a GUI, do I need to install the graphics server (xserver-xorg) manually along with this < sudo apt-get install xfce4 lightdm-gtk-greeter >
[09:57] <mikodo> *guys
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> mikodo: yes, xorg will need installing
[09:58] <mikodo> ActionParsnip, Thank you. You and the others have been patient. Thanks.
[09:58] <hN1337> what's better? win8 or ubuntu ?
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> hN1337: both, depends on the need of the system
[09:59] <k1l_> hN1337: of course ubuntu (if you ask in a ubuntu channel )
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> hN1337: which colour is better, red or blue?
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> hN1337: your win8 vs ubuntu question is as intelligent as that
[10:03] <hN1337> Which for windows uses less resources
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> hN1337: which what for windows?
[10:05] <llutz> ot
[10:06] <hN1337> I need just for browse internet , use irc , films
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> hN1337: i'd use Ubuntu then. It will do all that stuff and is free :)
[10:06] <pulsar78> how do i remove i8042 loading during boot ?
[10:07] <hN1337> ActionParsnip thank you :)
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> pulsar78: add the boot option i8042.blacklist=1
[10:10] <pulsar78> ActionParsnip: grub_cmdline_linux_default ?
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> pulsar78: or run:   echo "blacklist i8042" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf > /dev/null
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> pulsar78: whichever line has "quiet splash"
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> pulsar78: add it in the quotes to make "quiet splash i8024.blacklist=1"
[10:10] <pulsar78> ActionParsnip: k
[10:11] <pulsar78> here we go
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> pulsar78: remember to run:  sudo update-grub   to apply
[10:13] <pulsar78> Nope, still present:
[10:13] <pulsar78> [    2.691481] i8042: PNP: No PS/2 controller found. Probing ports directly.
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> pulsar78: did you try the blackilst.conf file too?
[10:14] <pulsar78> ActionParsnip: rebooting as we speak =)
[10:15] <pulsar78> ActionParsnip: yeah, still there
[10:16] <pulsar78> seems that: FATAL: Module i8042 is builtin
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> pulsar78: could be, not all things are modular, some are hard built into the kernel.
[10:22] <pulsar78> ActionParsnip: i dont feel like rebuilding a kernel, cause i dont know how, and probably takes a lot of time to remove a bootdelay of 1.1s
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> pulsar78: then don't sweat it :)
[10:23] <pulsar78> ActionParsnip: thanks for the help
[10:25] <Peace-> can someone tell me why when i start the fist time this command Xephyr :1 -screen 640x480 & sleep 3 && export DISPLAY=:1 && plasma-desktop and then i close it just it doesn't work anymore ?
[10:25] <Peace-> telling that
[10:25] <Peace-> Xephyr cannot open host display. Is DISPLAY set?
[10:34] <jnhghy> cristian_c: any luck with full path?
[10:35] <chansia_> exit
[10:35] <chansia_> exit
[10:35] <chansia_> exit
[10:35] <FloodBot1> chansia_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:46] <N3sh108> hello
[10:46] <N3sh108> I am trying to execute commands from PHP in my Ubuntu (ARM) 12.04
[10:46] <N3sh108> I have tried several ways: modifying sudoers and both adding the needed scripts or no password at all or even piping the password when I execute the function
[10:46] <N3sh108> I checked that the user www-data owns apache2 and that's the case
[10:47] <N3sh108> any ideas? I am honestly out of them.
[10:50] <brontosaurusrex> N3sh108, what is your question?
[10:50] <N3sh108> I am trying to execute commands from PHP in my Ubuntu (ARM) 12.04
[10:50] <N3sh108> I have tried several ways: modifying sudoers and both adding the needed scripts or no password at all or even piping the password when I execute the function
[10:50] <N3sh108> but Im not able
[10:50] <N3sh108> to run any sudo comman
[10:50] <N3sh108> command}
[10:51] <brontosaurusrex> check how the shell behaves, is sudo itself even available in that case, ect and you will get somewhere
[10:51] <brontosaurusrex> any errors?
[10:53] <N3sh108> how do I do that?
[10:53] <N3sh108> I mean, from php I am both using exec or exec_shell
[10:53] <N3sh108> if I use echo xxxx
[10:54] <N3sh108> it works
[10:54] <N3sh108> but if I use sudo echo xxxx it doesnt
[10:54] <N3sh108> I tried even
[10:54] <brontosaurusrex> don't recall, maybe ask in #php or #ubuntu-server
[10:54] <N3sh108> echo <password> | sudo -S echo xxxx
[10:54] <N3sh108> but nothng
[10:54] <N3sh108> I tried in php
[10:56] <brontosaurusrex> and you can confirm that www-data is in sudoers and working corectly from cli?
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> N3sh108: echo text | sudo tee -a /path/to/file      will add to the file... is that what you need?
[10:57] <N3sh108> I am just trying to fix this
[10:57] <N3sh108> I still don't have the actual command I want to run
[10:57] <N3sh108> I tried with touch /var/www/test.html
[10:57] <N3sh108> and nothing was created
[10:58] <N3sh108> I'll try yours ActionParsnip
[10:58] <N3sh108> and by text you mean the password?
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> N3sh108: no, 'txt' is the text to add to the file
[10:58] <N3sh108> ops :P
[10:59] <N3sh108> ActionParnship: should I add the user back to sudoers?
[10:59] <N3sh108> and use no password at all for all the commands?
[11:00] <N3sh108> pff
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> you will need to type your password, yes
[11:02] <N3sh108> that worked
[11:02] <N3sh108> but for example
[11:02] <N3sh108> I tried to run
[11:02] <N3sh108> sudo vncserver
[11:02] <FloodBot1> N3sh108: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:02] <N3sh108> and the server is not up
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> N3sh108: running vncserver as root is a really bad idea
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> N3sh108: what are you using VNC to achieve?
[11:04] <N3sh108> I just would like to be able to turn it off or on from a page
[11:04] <N3sh108> that's a test anyway
[11:04] <N3sh108> the webserver is accessible only trough internal network and I will use this command from a page on another server which is accessible from the Internet
[11:04] <N3sh108> so it's quite safe
[11:05] <qpan321> Hi, who knows virtualization? How do you compare virtualbox to vmware?
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> qpan321: I'd ask in #vmware or similar
[11:06] <N3sh108> qpan321: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=virtualbox+vs+vmware ?
[11:06] <cfhowlett> qpan321, or in #vbox
[11:06] <N3sh108> or in #google :P
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> qpan321: or in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:07] <qpan321> ok, thanks
[11:07] <N3sh108> qpan321: or using /msg ActionParnship
[11:07]  * cfhowlett thinks he sees a common theme developing here ...
[11:07] <N3sh108> :P
[11:10] <N3sh108> anyway ActionParsnip: it seems that the problem is running vncserver, other commands work now. Weird. Thanks though
[11:11] <ObrienDave> lmgtfy?
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> N3sh108: why do you need VNC?
[11:13] <N3sh108> ActionParsnip: just for debugging purposes. The board will be on a moving robot with wifi capabilities, having the ability to turn on and off the vncserver whenever it is needed would have been a cool feature
[11:14] <mikodo> ActionParsnip, Hi again, I have always done *fresh* installs with distribution upgrades, due to horror stories with dist-upgrades breaking, but with your experience, are they becoming less buggy and breaking less?
[11:16] <cristian_c> jnhghy, I must try :)
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> mikodo: no idea, i clean install the latest LTS each time, not done an upgrade install since Jaunty
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> mikodo: i find it quicker and easier
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> N3sh108: but what would you do on the VNC server session?
[11:19] <mikodo> ActionParsnip, Thanks. Plus, I am going to use the semi-rolling Debian Tesing from now on too! Thanks
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> mikodo: well remember, debian is not supported here
[11:20] <mikodo> ActionParsnip, My apologies
[11:22] <N3sh108> ActionParsnip: I would just start the server, then using a VNC viewer I would start it. And, eventually, stop the server as well. Nothing 'admin-ish'. Just wanted to start/stop it.
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> N3sh108: i see
[11:24] <plusEV> Hi, I am having problems updating from Lubuntu 13.04 to 13.10. I have asked in #lubuntu without any answer. My problem is generic so I ask here. My boot partitiondoes not have enugh free space to make the updgrade. What can I delete to free up around 100mb without breaking my system? http://i.imgur.com/VayVKLj.jpg
[11:24] <cfhowlett> plusEV, wait, what?  is that abi word in your /boot?
[11:25] <plusEV> yea.
[11:25] <maxvi> hi everyone! I connect to server (sftp) via remmina but I can't see any dir names!
[11:26] <plusEV> I dont think I can delete anything here. Can I expand the partition maybe?
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> plusEV: what is the output of:  uname -a; dpkg -l | grep linux-image; lsb_release -a
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> plusEV: please us a pastebin to host the output
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> maxvi: sftp will surely be connected via nautilus etc. Remmina is a remote desktop client
[11:35] <plusEV> ActionParsnip: http://bpaste.net/show/159732/
[11:37] <ObrienDave> removing the 3 oldest kernels should do nicely
[11:38] <plusEV> ObrienDave: So 19, 31 and 32 for both the extras too?
[11:39] <ObrienDave> yup, that's about 100MB
[11:39] <plusEV> ok ill try that
[11:40] <trijntje> is it possible to install 12.04 on a system with EUFI?
[11:42] <SamGoody> Hello all. Am having issues with apt-get - its getting stuck while looking for a pgp key for medibuntu
[11:42] <ObrienDave> trijntje, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[11:42] <SamGoody> Couple of questions, if anyone around could please help. 1. Is there some way I can just delete my sources.list and get a fresh new sources.lists file from Ubuntu?
[11:43] <ObrienDave> SamGoody, medibuntu does NOT exist anymore
[11:43] <SamGoody> I know, figured that out after hours oftrying to get past this issue
[11:44] <SamGoody> Ive apt-get purged everything that smelles like medibuntu
[11:44] <SamGoody> And used grep to find any files with medibuntu in them, removed them from apt/lists
[11:45] <ObrienDave> not sure how to get rid of the key, sorry
[11:45] <SamGoody> And also opened dpkg available and status and apt-get purged anything that had medibuntu in the description
[11:45] <SamGoody> But when I run apt-get update, or aptitude update, or use synaptic, it crashes a few lines in, after throwing an error about medibuntu
[11:46] <patxi> ahi niggas que pasa payo
[11:46] <SamGoody> Which means I have no way of ever updating ubuntu, which seems to me to be less than ideal
[11:46] <ObrienDave> software & updates, should be able to delete the key from there
[11:46] <SamGoody> how?
[11:47] <patxi> ubuntu sucks i prefer using smoke for comunicating
[11:47] <kc9iid> go to software and updates and settings and see if it's listed under other software i think it says
[11:48] <ObrienDave> patxi, at least you should be smarter than smoke to use it
[11:48] <SamGoody> Medibuntu is already uninstalled. Not sure where the key is. But its an issue I have spent hours and hours on, really needs help
[11:48] <ObrienDave> SamGoody, what kc9iid said
[11:48] <kc9iid> SamGoody,  go to software and updates and settings and see if it's listed under other software i think it says
[11:49] <patxi> seriously have you got social life or you fap yourself watching the linux penguin
[11:49] <SamGoody> Just did that. Not listed
[11:49] <cfhowlett> SamGoody, have you run apt-get update to reset your source list?
[11:49] <SamGoody> of course
[11:49] <SamGoody> Thats where it is getting stuck
[11:49] <kc9iid> oh ok I don't know another way, sorry and good luck
[11:49] <SamGoody> Runs a a lines and then borks: GPG error
[11:50] <SamGoody> There is no "fresh" place I can download the apt/lists?
[11:50] <SamGoody> Isnt that part of the ubuntu trunk somewhere, I can get it from git or something?
[11:51] <kc9iid> not that i know of but I'm still kind of new
[11:51] <SamGoody> I will then delete all of my own lists, and everything aught to be dandy
[11:51] <cfhowlett> SamGoody, there is a tool for that.  wait one
[11:51] <ObrienDave> SamGoody, http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/index.php
[11:51] <cfhowlett> SamGoody, see http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/index.php
[11:51] <SamGoody> That is so cool
[11:51] <SamGoody> Where did you find that?
[11:51] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, dern it, Dave.  Yer stealing my thunderz!
[11:52] <SamGoody> I had googled with no luck. OK< thats great!
[11:52] <ObrienDave> oh.... just fumbling about.... cfhowlett ;P
[11:52] <SamGoody> Is there something similar to reset the dpkg files?
[11:52] <cfhowlett> SamGoody, don't remember where I first saw it, but it went into my xmarks so I could "whip it out" for just this occasion!
[11:52] <ObrienDave> TMI ;P
[11:55] <SamGoody> Cinnamon is part of Ubuntu? I see its on that list
[11:55] <SamGoody> I thought that was part of Mint, but maybe am getting mixed up with Mate
[11:55] <ObrienDave> it works, not "official"
[11:56] <cfhowlett> SamGoody, it's available.  I wouldn't call it "part of" ...
[11:56] <SamGoody> Is it recommended to get Universe and Multiverse?
[11:57] <SamGoody> Also, why does each have a "sources Repository", how will that help?
[11:58] <ObrienDave> sometimes you need both. dunno why
[12:00] <SamGoody> OK, other question, if anyone can help.
[12:01] <SamGoody> Thumbdrives are not recognized
[12:01] <SamGoody> When I plugin a thumdrive and do ls /dev/
[12:01] <sjuxax> Anyone know where I can get curl packages for 12.04 compiled against c-ares?
[12:01] <SamGoody> it shows as sdc, and as sg1 and I can mount it, but it doesnt show up by itself
[12:02] <sjuxax> Or an easy way to tell Ubuntu to change a flag or two and rebuild all libcurl-* packages?
[12:04] <jefersen> how can i install these 2 packages? distribute & nose
[12:07] <Guest56648> I installed 12.04 the other day. Everything was working okay... then Chrome really started having severe lag.. freezing/locking up. Tabs stopped loading.. I read some pages, that said perhaps my graphics drivers were outdated. So I sudo apt-get install nvidia-current nvidia-319-updates
[12:07] <Guest56648> Just restarted my system, now graphics drivers fails to loads.
[12:07] <Guest56648> And I can't get unity to start. Just loads straight to a terminal.
[12:08] <kc9iid> Guest I had the same problem yesterday with manjarobox, now I'm back to ubuntu 12.04
[12:13] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[12:13] <ObrienDave> howdy
[12:14] <the-nightphoenix> #ubuntu-eg
[12:14] <glambert> i want to configure my host without a public ip but allow virtual machines on the host to have public ips, how do i do this via the interfaces file?
[12:14] <SamGoody> Good morning BluesKaj, and welcome to the Ubuntu and the Linux list
[12:15] <xperiaS> Guys my laptop burning now 103degree celcius i5 processor
[12:15] <BluesKaj> Hi amortimer
[12:15] <SamGoody> Will you be writing everything in duplicate, or are you just broadcasting to to lists in tandem
[12:15] <BluesKaj> hi SamGoody , thanks :)
[12:16] <ObrienDave> xperiaS, that seems a bit excessive. fan working?
[12:17] <xperiaS> Obriendave, not working but I cleaned the fan
[12:17] <fidel__> is it possible to create bash script which works as droplet? (as in: i drag&drop files on that script and those files are handled via $1 in my script)? or should i head over to #bash?
[12:18] <ObrienDave> xperiaS, i would try to fix the fan asap
[12:18] <xperiaS> Obriendave,or thermal paste on heat synk
[12:19] <ObrienDave> both asap
[12:19] <BluesKaj> xperiaS, shut it down altho the the temp sensor might be wrong , the thermal sensors on the cpu should have shut it down
[12:20] <xperiaS> Ok shutting down exit
[12:20] <Laykee> What nvidia package should I install? I can't get ubuntu to boot to GUI
[12:20] <Laykee> Before things broke, it was running 319.xx
[12:20] <Laykee> Do I just install nvidia-current ?
[12:21] <Laykee> I'm not sure how to fix where I can't boot to GUI.
[12:21] <ObrienDave> what does it boot into?
[12:21] <BluesKaj> Laykee, nvidia graphics ? , if so install nvidia-current at the virtual terminal /tty
[12:21] <Laykee> ObrienDave, Boots to root shell
[12:22] <ObrienDave> k
[12:22] <Laykee> Actually, that's a lie. First it booted to root shell, then the second restart it stopped.. I justgeta  flashing caret.. unrespsnvie.
[12:22] <Laykee> Then I restarted again, and goot shell. Seems to be inconsistent.
[12:22] <ObrienDave> !nomodeset
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Laykee, cyl+alt+F1-F6 will open the virtual terminal
[12:22] <Laykee> I'm back in root shell though.
[12:22] <Laykee> Thanks.
[12:23] <Laykee> Okay.. so I'll install nvidia-current, then boot to grub and modifier the loader to use nomodeset.
[12:23] <Laykee> Will report back :)
[12:24] <ObrienDave> one at a time
[12:24] <Laykee> Can I modify the loader while I'm in shell now?
[12:25] <ObrienDave> dunno
[12:25] <BluesKaj> nomodeset can prevent some desktop effects like opengl dri and 3d on some gpus
[12:27] <BluesKaj> Laykee, try nomodeset if the nvidia driver doesn't work for you
[12:28] <Laykee> Okay.. soo this is strange now
[12:28] <is2b007> what is the "uid=1000" in fstab when mounting a hdd
[12:28] <Laykee> I installed nvidia-current, rebooted, now I got taken to the log in screen.. it's graphical this time.
[12:28] <goncaloss> hello
[12:28] <Laykee> However, if I enter my pasword, the screen attempts to load and log me in.
[12:29] <Laykee> But it actually returns meback to the login again
[12:29] <Laykee> It's defintely the correct password. It's like it attempts to log me in, something fails.. (perhaps graphicall?) and chucks me back to the login.
[12:29] <crazyhorse18> what program can i use to test a webcam?
[12:30] <Sebastien> crazyhorse18, test it how?
[12:30] <Sebastien> like, to see if it works?
[12:30] <BluesKaj> Laykee, what about the username, make sure thast's correct
[12:30] <crazyhorse18> Sebastien: see some video coming out of it
[12:30] <Laykee> Well if I button bash random keys it says "password error" or something..
[12:30] <crazyhorse18> skype seems to think i don't have one
[12:31] <Laykee> If I type the correct.. it goes to black screen as if it was about to log in. Then returns me back. It's a loop of sorts..
[12:31] <Laykee> Could it be that previously I had dual monitor?
[12:31] <Laykee> Now I'm trying to boot with single monitor? Maybe I need to do a reconfigure of something?
[12:31] <Sebastien> crazyhorse18, you could try it online? like chatroulette or something. or even tinychat. just create a room and join yourself see if you cam streams.
[12:33] <glambert> anyone?
[12:34] <glambert> i want to configure my host without a public ip but allow virtual machines on the host to have public ips, how do i do this via the interfaces file?
[12:35] <Sebastien> glambert, i am sure someone will be with you with an answer soon. hang tight :)
[12:35] <glambert> ok thanks
[12:37] <clarezoe> hi, I have ubuntu 13.10, kernal 3.11.0-15-generic. My sound just became suddenly distorted, I have been searching for solutions but no success. Can anyone help? thanks
[12:37] <ObrienDave> clarezoe, what app?
[12:39] <clarezoe> ObrienDave, no app, it just has the cracked sound, I have to mute the computer to make it quiet
[12:39] <ObrienDave> not sure on that
[12:39] <clarezoe> I'm not running anything that has sound
[12:40] <clarezoe> all I got from google is Skype VLC sound problem, but it's not my case
[12:41] <BluesKaj> clarezoe, checked your volume levels in alsamixer ?
[12:41] <JanC_UEFI_test> clarezoe: did you try muting all microphones, line-ins, etc.?
[12:49] <rath> "lsof" shows me files with FD "DEL". Does anyone know what that means?
[12:51] <clarezoe> BluesKaj, JanC_UEFI_test, yes, I checked volume levels, only Speaker is 0 but I cannot increase it. nothing happen when I muted the micro
[13:11] <linuxearth> hello everyone
[13:12] <somsip> !info cheese | crazyhorse18
[13:12] <linuxearth> ubuntu is nice but it hangs a lot......>>!
[13:12] <linuxearth> what could be the reason?
[13:14] <ObrienDave> linuxearth, define "hangs"
[13:14] <linuxearth> anyone is there...? or all are bisy?
[13:14] <linuxearth> busy**
[13:14] <wookienz_> gidday. If i have a NFS server sharing a folder as a NFS Server user. What is the best way for the client machine that is a different uid an gid to get access to the folder without having to use 777 on it.
[13:25] <mathsz> hello
[13:26] <mathsz> Question : I'm stuck at boot splash screen. what are the steps to resolve?
[13:29] <kofm> Hi everybody! Does anybody knows how to disable the SHUTDOWN menu item for GUEST ACCOUNT on Ubuntu 12.04? Tyvm!
[13:29] <BluesKaj> mathsz, ctrl+alt+F1-F6, login , then, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:29] <cfhowlett> mathsz, greetings
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> mathsz: is this an installed OS or are you installing?
[13:32] <mathsz> Installed, on a VM
[13:32] <compdoc> which VM?
[13:32] <mathsz> at splash screen, ctrl alt f1 won't do anything... Should start grub??
[13:33] <mathsz> Oracle Vm virtualbox
[13:33] <Gr1m> In virtualbox I tried cloning 2 VMs and when they use bridged adapter they get the same IP. How can I fix this ?
[13:33] <mathsz> I can get in recovery menu
[13:34] <mathsz> doing sudo apt-get update
[13:34] <BluesKaj> mathsz, upgrade as well
[13:34] <mathsz> BluesKaj, ok
[13:34] <kofm> i tried with the "gsettings set com.canonical.indicator.session suppress-shutdown-menuitem true" command
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> mathsz: add the boot option:  nomodeset
[13:35] <kofm> but it lasts only until guest user log outs
[13:35] <mathsz> ok, apt-get update and upgrade gave a lot of Failed to fetch, not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> kofm: http://embraceubuntu.com/2006/03/20/disable-shutdown-for-normal-users/   may help, make copies and / or notes of files before you edit
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> mathsz: which release did you install?
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> kofm: use lightdm.conf as ubuntu now uses that
[13:37] <kofm> ActionParsnip: instead of gdm.conf?
[13:37] <mathsz> anction parsnip : 12.04 LTS on windows host.
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> mathsz: does the VM have web access?
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> mathsz: what are you using to virtualize?
[13:38] <ggz> plop
[13:38] <mathsz> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. sorry, forgot ubuntu , no coffee. as far as I can tell, it's got network... any way to verify?
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> mathsz: what are you using to virtualize?
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> mathsz: cdan you ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[13:39] <Guest97137> oi
[13:39] <mathsz> OH, sorry, oracle virtualbox manager, version : 4.3.4
[13:39] <starbuck33> d
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> mathsz: have you tried a different video setting? disable hw accelleration
[13:40] <mathsz> ActionParsnip : can't ping.
[13:40] <mathsz> damn
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> mathsz: then check network config in the vbox settings
[13:41] <mathsz> trying to get network. . . . .
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> mathsz: does the host have web access:
[13:42] <mathsz> actionparsnip: yeah, sure does. I'm typing on it now
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> mathsz: sounds like a question for #vbox to get the system actually on the web
[13:42] <mathsz> ok, I'm trying various setting, then will try sudo apt get update, upgrade
[13:43] <mathsz> network is on
[13:43] <mathsz> in recovery mode, I had to choose "network on"...
[13:44] <mathsz> update done
[13:44] <mathsz> upgrade ongoing
[13:46] <kofm> ActionParsnip: sudo chgrp admin /sbin/halt /sbin/shutdown didn't work. It says: chgrp: gruppo non valido: "admin" - that means: group not valid
[13:47] <kofm> ActionParsnip: but i think this solution is too much for me. I only want to remove the item from the menu, not preventing shutdown from normal users
[13:48] <kofm> ActionParsnip: " gsettings set com.canonical.indicator.session suppress-shutdown-menuitem true " do the trick, but when i logout the menu returns normal
[13:48] <kofm> is there a way to stick gsettings changes into guest account?
[13:50] <mathsz> actionparsnip : ok, reboot now? update, upgrade went through
[13:52] <BluesKaj> mathsz, no need , just run , sudo service lightdm start
[13:52] <mathsz> ok.
[13:53] <mathsz> still stuck at splash screen
[13:53] <amortimer> Hi BluesKaj
[13:53] <BluesKaj> then reboot
[13:53] <BluesKaj> amortimer, hi
[13:54] <mathsz> reboot --> gets stuck at splash screen again. I get a "upgrade bios or force... something" just before splash screen
[13:54] <mathsz> makes sense?
[13:55] <mike-irssi> mathsz: remove "quiet" from the boot settings if it's there
[13:55] <mathsz> mike-irssi : how would I do that?...
[13:55] <mike-irssi> mathsz: won't fix it but you might be able to see a reason why it won't get over the hump so to speak
[13:56] <mike-irssi> mathsz: "e" in grub--i think
[13:57] <mathsz> ok, trying
[14:01] <eden__> How can i remove the launcher in ubuntu 13.10?
[14:03] <miusang> Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_nvidia.so      I'm AMD platform.  Why does the phenomenon happen?
[14:06] <mike-irssi> miusang: perhaps the path for .so needs to be specified?
[14:06] <mike-irssi> or symbolically linked
[14:07] <miusang> symbolically linked? But the computer is AMD graphic processor.
[14:07] <mike-irssi> incidentally you could set variables in bash.bashrc i believe
[14:09] <miusang> but how to do it? I mean libvdpau_nvidia.so the file seems that it should not exist in the AMD graphic processor.
[14:09] <miusang> Isn't it?
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> miusang: a default ubuntu install has nvidia-common
[14:10] <mike-irssi> good point
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> !find libvdpau_nvidia.so
[14:11] <miusang> include AMD?: ActionParsnip: miusang: a default ubuntu install has nvidia-common
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> miusang: yes, any install with any video cards will install nvidia-common
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> miusang: my nvidia pc also has radeon-tools which is default, yet I never by ATI graphics cards
[14:12] <Noobwe> hello
[14:13] <onetinsoldier> hi
[14:13] <Noobwe> can some one tell my a good C++ programing program
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> Noobwe: g++
[14:14] <Noobwe> where can i find it from google
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> Noobwe: why do you need google?
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> Noobwe: just install build-essential and you will get an ANSI standard C and C++ compiler
[14:15] <cfhowlett> http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=g%2B%2B+ubuntu
[14:15] <Noobwe> aaaaa ok
[14:15] <Pici> cfhowlett: don't do that.
[14:15] <mike-irssi> Noobwe: the thing is most of that is done by text editing--i think
[14:16] <mike-irssi> therefore, notepad or nano
[14:16] <Noobwe> thx for your help
[14:17] <Toyraztory> anyone know good youtube for learning move from windows to ubuntu
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> !manual | Toyraztory
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> Toyraztory: how did you learn Windows?
[14:17] <Toyraztory> ty action
[14:17] <Toyraztory> i used windows vista up till windows 8.1
[14:17] <mathsz> actionParsnip : no luck. blank black screen
[14:17] <mathsz> :O
[14:18] <Toyraztory> then i got fed up with it
[14:18] <mike-irssi> my understanding freebsd has one of the most advanced manuals there is
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> Toyraztory: but how did you learn how to use it?
[14:18] <mike-irssi> but i dont recommend it
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> miusang: all linux distros and BSD are heavily documented online, most commands are common too...
[14:19] <Toyraztory> I learnt at school first. but ive had alot of windows machines
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> Toyraztory: then learn ubuntu the same. Get down and dirty and use it. You will learn
[14:19] <Toyraztory> i just want to get into my hard drive and access etc
[14:19] <Overlordz> arch linux has excellent documentation
[14:19] <Toyraztory> Kewl thats good goal for me
[14:20] <Toyraztory> im too new for arch doe
[14:20] <Noobwe> what OS are you all using Ubuntu or Linux i am using Ubuntu 13.10
[14:20] <whoever> torywhat is
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> try gentoo for a real challenge :)
[14:20] <Overlordz> yeah arch has a bit of a learning curve
[14:20] <Toyraztory> im using ubuntu 62bit
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> 62bit, freaky
[14:20] <cfhowlett> 64?
[14:21] <Overlordz> though the arch wiki can be a good resource if you just need to read up on something
[14:21] <Toyraztory> yeah 64 lol
[14:21] <Toyraztory> thats good idea, thanks for the advice overlord
[14:22] <Overlordz> 62 bit damn that IS freaky :P
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> Gentoo makes Arch look like a breeze :)
[14:23] <BluesKaj> Gentoo is for ppl who like to wear hair shirts :)
[14:24] <mathsz> Hey guys, any other Idea?
[14:24] <Guest7436> hi all
[14:24] <Toyraztory> what yall think of lenova?
[14:24] <mike-irssi> mathsz: blacklist nouveau
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> Toyraztory: what is it?
[14:24]  * andyfied is using lubuntu Noobwe 
[14:24] <Overlordz> lenovo you mean?
[14:24] <mathsz> Mike-irssi?? blacklist?
[14:25] <cfhowlett> lenova 62?  match made in heaven
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> Toyraztory: do you mean Lenovo, the manufacturer of PC gear?
[14:25] <hatchetjack> debian rules
[14:26] <Toyraztory> yeah the laptop lenova
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> Toyraztory: it's lenovo
[14:26] <Toyraztory> oh ok ty
[14:26] <Noobwe> lenova is a good laptop
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> Toyraztory: use the web and search for lenova, see how far you get
[14:27] <Toyraztory> hm 62
[14:27] <Toyraztory> ok
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> Toyraztory: do you have a support question?>
[14:27] <mike-irssi> mathsz: blacklist.nouveau=1 add this to grub where "quiet" used to be
[14:27] <Toyraztory> not atm.. b back later <3
[14:27] <mike-irssi> mathsz: sorry, nouveau.blacklist=1
[14:27] <Overlordz> looking at Gentoo on wikipedia... oh good yet another package manager for me to play with
[14:27] <miusang> I try to google it but forgive me to ask it again.  When I type vdpauinfo
[14:27] <miusang> display: :0.0   screen: 0
[14:27] <miusang> Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_nvidia.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[14:27] <miusang> Error creating VDPAU device: 1
[14:28] <Noobwe> how to fix Ubuntu 12.04 Sorce forge problem
[14:28] <Noobwe> it s like i cant make updates
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> Overlordz: lots of fun, high powered cpus rock on gentoo. builds here take ages
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> Noobwe: how are updates related to sourceforge?
[14:28] <miusang> Eventually I don't know which word should be put in Google to solve the problem. My head is going spinning.
[14:29] <Noobwe> no the thing i don t now i am a kid that likes IT
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> Noobwe: then try using plain language instead of techical language you don't understand and confusing yourself and others
[14:29] <cfhowlett> Noobwe, maybe you should direct that question to Sourceforge ...
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> Noobwe: if you run:   sudo apt-get update    what is the full output please. Use a pastebin like http://pastie.org to host the output
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> miusang: did you ask in #vbox yet ?
[14:30] <Noobwe> i will post it when i get into my moms computer
[14:31] <miusang> I am not running a virtual machine, I think
[14:31] <miusang> My computer with Ubuntu 12.04 installed
can you make updates
[14:33] <Overlordz> ActionParsnip, hah I can imagine trying to compile something like firefox... oi.
[14:33] <miusang> In fact, I update it yesterday and still the problem,
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> miusang: its a concious decision if you are.
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> Overlordz: on my 650Mhz K7, the kernel took 2 days
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> Overlordz: nowadays I've seen people with a decent rig do a kernel in 40 mins
[14:33] <Overlordz> I hope you aren't using that 650Mhz K7 now :P
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> Overlordz: Semperon AM2 1.6Ghz, so not much better
[14:34] <miusang> I have AMD proprietary graphic driver installed
[14:34] <Overlordz> 40 mins to do the kernel... that's impressive
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> Overlordz: yeah people have races online, not sure what the record is
[14:35] <Overlordz> rofl
[14:35] <hatchetjack> you guys are at least building kernel packages from source right?
[14:35] <Overlordz> ohloh tells me the kernel is ~16 million lines of code
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> hatchetjack: did in gentoo, yes
[14:35] <hatchetjack> gentoo?
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> hatchetjack: yes, gentoo
[14:35] <Overlordz> I think it took me like an hour to compile wine and that's only 2.5 million
[14:35] <mathsz> Mike-irssi trying
[14:36] <hatchetjack> I was under the impression that this was #ubuntu
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> hatchetjack: it is
[14:36] <mathsz> Mike-irssi still splashscreen
[14:36] <hatchetjack> so you guys are dicussing building kernels and such on gentoo though, not ubuntu right?
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> hatchetjack: right now, yes
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> hatchetjack: offtopic ofcourse
[14:37] <hatchetjack> just making sure I'm on the same page
[14:37] <hatchetjack> I'm not the offtopic police be any means so don't mind me
[14:37] <hatchetjack> :)
[14:38] <Noobwe> who are C++ programmers in here
[14:38] <hatchetjack> not I
[14:38] <hatchetjack> mostly python am I
[14:38] <hatchetjack> and bash
[14:38] <Overlordz> I haven't written a line of C++ in.... a few years
[14:38] <hatchetjack> I speak a little C but nothing to talk about
[14:38] <Noobwe> can you tell me some programs that are simple
[14:39] <Overlordz> not openoffice
[14:39] <cfhowlett> c++ "hello World"
[14:39] <ObrienDave> they're all simple, if you know how
[14:39] <cfhowlett> pretty much the standard program for any language
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> Noobwe: I'd ask in #c++
[14:40] <Noobwe> ye but i don t now any programs that to use
[14:40] <Noobwe> ok
[14:40] <Overlordz> I'd recommend learning C before learning C++
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> I'd recommend pascal first, then on to anythning else
[14:40] <Overlordz> and I'd probably recommend learning something like Java before learning C
[14:41] <hatchetjack> Noobwe: it's great to just learn a language but it helps if you have a need
[14:41] <hatchetjack> pascal?
[14:41] <hatchetjack> heh
[14:41] <ObrienDave> ADA?
[14:41] <hatchetjack> Overlordz: I spend a great deal of time and effort avoiding java
[14:41] <hatchetjack> :-P
[14:41] <hatchetjack> I recommend bash and python
[14:42] <Overlordz> fair enough, I just meant anything that's not as low level as C
[14:42] <hatchetjack> low level is assembly
[14:42] <hatchetjack> course C is lower level then python, perl, ruby etc...
[14:42] <Noobwe> i now some of it but it s hard id you don t now so much english language
[14:42] <Overlordz> C isn't that far from assembly
[14:42] <ObrienDave> don't get no lower than assembler
[14:42] <Noobwe> if*
[14:42] <hatchetjack> Noobwe: sounds like you need to learn engligh then
[14:43] <hatchetjack> english rather
[14:43] <mike-irssi> mathsz: remove "quiet" from boot settings in grub, looking for more info
[14:43] <Noobwe> i am learning it but i am 14 years old so don t laugh
[14:43] <mike-irssi> mathsz: pop the hood moment
[14:44] <cfhowlett> Noobwe, look around, there's probably a linux user group near you.
[14:44] <hatchetjack> Noobwe: where are you located?
[14:44] <Noobwe> EST
[14:44] <hatchetjack> I am unfamiliar with what EST might stand for
[14:44] <Noobwe> what s whit the Linux i am using Ubuntu
[14:45] <ObrienDave> Noobwe, I had a class in FORTRAN when I was 14. 42 years ago. keep plugging away at it :)
[14:45] <abhorsen> im a freshman in a bsc computer science degree and we're learning C for the first year, if thats any help
[14:45] <Noobwe> :D
[14:45] <Noobwe> EST stands for Estonia
[14:45] <hatchetjack> gotcha
[14:46] <abhorsen> I think that the logic behind learning C first is that C is rather like the latin to many other languages
[14:46] <abhorsen> and is rather simple
[14:46] <cfhowlett> Noobwe, ubuntu is a variant of linux
[14:46] <ObrienDave> EST - Eastern Standard Time
[14:46] <Noobwe> :D
 so what did you thought i don t now that
[14:47] <cfhowlett> Noobwe, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EstonianTeam
[14:47] <64MAA6NDE> Hey, guys i am edging my way into open source development and i was wondering how do you keep your build up to date? Say you clone a repository today and build a patch in 2 days , but what if some pull request gets merged before that.
[14:48] <Dasda> Ìû
[14:48] <n008> whats the best way to ssh into multiple servers at once?
[14:48] <n008> say like 5 servers?
[14:49] <darkelfjuggalo> Does anyone know how I can get the most up to date Flash? [Meaning the ones Adobe didn't make for linux] several things I do online fail to work due to the Flash Requirement
[14:49] <hatchetjack> n008: use multiple terminals?
[14:49] <hatchetjack> heh
[14:49] <n008> hatchetjack: any faster?
[14:49] <n008> from one command ?
[14:49] <hatchetjack> I happen to be logged into 5 servers at the moment
[14:49] <n008> hatchetjack: you had to do that individually
[14:49] <hatchetjack> yah
[14:50] <Noobwe> how can i make my own channel in the XChat
[14:50] <n008> hatchetjack: I saw something like CS_ssh or something
[14:50] <hatchetjack> I have 5 terminal tabs for each server
[14:50] <n008> you want to look at them all at once
[14:50] <n008> without clicking as well
[14:50] <hatchetjack> no I don't
[14:50] <n008> visually monitor them
[14:50] <storresi> 64MAA6J3S: assuming that you are talking about git fork & pull flow, you rebase from the upstream before submitting the PR. that is also usually done by mantainers when they merge PRs
[14:51] <hatchetjack> I'm a human.  I do well with one input at a time.
[14:51] <storresi> sorry that was for 64MAA6NDE
[14:51] <n008> hatchetjack: really?
[14:52] <hatchetjack> really what?
[14:52] <n008> that you are human
[14:53] <hatchetjack> yep, that's about right.
[14:53] <dblover> whose the human?
[14:53] <hatchetjack> I am
[14:53] <dblover> really?
[14:53] <hatchetjack> yah
[14:53] <dblover> ok I belive you
[14:53] <hatchetjack> I appreciate it
[14:54] <dblover> your welcome
[14:54] <hatchetjack> you're welcome
[14:54] <dblover> but I might be a bot
[14:54] <hatchetjack> just saying
[14:54] <hatchetjack> what I'm trying to say is that I'm not a computer that can monitor multiple input/outputs very well.
[14:55] <dblover> ok
[14:55] <hatchetjack> so the need for me to have however many multiple ssh sessions to servers that I'm looking at all at the same time is not great.
[14:55] <n008> hatchetjack: I aint tlaking about monitoring multiple input/ouputs tho
[14:55] <Overlordz> hatchetjack, are you human or helen keller?
[14:55] <n008> just talk about looking at multiple screens at the same time
[14:55] <n008> humans do this all the time
[14:55] <n008> thats why I wasnt sure if you were one
[14:55] <n008> thanks for the clarification tho
[14:55] <dblover> lol
[14:55] <hatchetjack> n008: doubtful
[14:56] <hatchetjack> my eyes (the input) can't look at 5 windows at once
[14:56] <hatchetjack> I can scan them back and forth
[14:56] <hatchetjack> but I have little need for that
[14:56] <64MAA6NDE> storresi: Yeah i am talking about git. So every time before i issue a pull request i fork and check if something breaks? There is no automation for this(on my local build)?
[14:56] <storresi> no you fork before you write code
[14:56] <n008> hatchetjack: I see, I have lots of need for that atm
[14:57] <storresi> then when your done you fetch upstream, rebase your feature branch, push to your remote, and submit the PR
[14:58] <64MAA6NDE> Ohh, ok i think i get the hang of it . Thank you storresi .
[14:58] <hatchetjack> n008: you must have a better processor in your head then I
[14:58] <ggz> hi
[14:58] <cfhowlett> ggz, greetings
[14:59] <ggz> where can I found the launcher used by the unity bar ? i mean the command, or the .desktop
[14:59] <cfhowlett> ggz, press the Super key
[14:59] <dblover> whats a superkey?
[14:59] <ObrienDave> the windows key
[14:59] <cfhowlett> dblover, used to called the Windows key
[15:00] <ggz> cfhowlett: then ?
[15:00] <dblover> lol
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> ggz: /usr/share/applications
[15:09] <hassen> A window suddenly appeared containing: choose new password for keyring
[15:09] <hassen> what is it about?
[15:13] <darius93> how  do i update  to the latest version of openssh (v6.4) ?
[15:15] <zykotick9> darius93: can i ask - what feature does 6.4 have over 6.2?
[15:15] <darius93> http://www.openssh.com/txt/release-6.4
[15:15] <darius93> security update
[15:17] <zykotick9> darius93: if it's a security issue - you should receive the update through the regular channels - that looks really specific however...
[15:17] <darius93> theres no updates in ubuntu
[15:17] <hassen> A window suddenly appeared containing: choose new password for keyring
[15:17] <hassen> what is it about?
[15:17] <hassen> sorry for reposting
[15:18] <hassen> should I ignore that window?
[15:18] <hassen> not sure why and for what would i enter a oassword
[15:18] <BrianH> darius93: 6.4 is in the trusty repos, if that helps
[15:18] <hassen> *password
[15:18] <zykotick9> darius93: i'm guessing there it's either A) in the works or B) affects such a small userbase... it doesn't matter.  best of luck.
[15:19] <darius93> zykotick9: well it affects those who wants to stay pci compliant
[15:19] <zykotick9> darius93: see reply A then...
[15:20] <dpecka> hello
[15:21] <BrianH> hassen: it's the password for your system's keyring, which is used to store security certificates and login information.
[15:22] <dpecka> i want to bring more light on one thing: enabling root account and granting certain users ability to use sudo is generally considered as more secure than default ubu way of using user pwd for getting root's rights ?
[15:23] <zykotick9> !noroot | dpecka
[15:23] <knightshade> darius93: the bug has already been fixed in 6.2 http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/o/openssh/openssh_6.2p2-6ubuntu0.1/changelog
[15:24] <dpecka> zykotick9: thanks but i farly don't offer any instruction like that :D
[15:24] <ggz> dpecka: you say "granting certain users ability to use sudo" that's not what ubuntu do ?
[15:24] <zykotick9> dpecka: you seem to be asking for an opinion (no support question) then
[15:25] <DJones> dpecka: In a way, there's an argument that having a root password is less secure because somebody trying to break into a machine would know the username "root" and would only have to get the password, if root isn't enabled, then they've got to guess the username and password
[15:26] <dpecka> ggz: well, no .. setting root's pwd and authenticing with this pwd when using sudo is different to default setup, where user use same pwd for getting root's rights
[15:27] <darius93> knightshade: thanks ill look into that
[15:27] <ggz> dpecka: i thought sudo always ask the user password, never the root password, am i wrong ?
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> ggz: thee is no root password. sudo uses the user's password
[15:28] <llutz> ggz: depends on sudo configuration. *buntu sudo uses users pwd
[15:28] <64MAA6NDE> Is it possible to have different root and main user passwords?
[15:28] <dpecka> ggz: yes, you're wrong .. sudo asks password needed to access root's privs .. if root account is enabled it wants root's pwd
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> 64MAA6NDE: there is no root password
[15:28] <zykotick9> llutz: ahhh, sudo always asks for user password...
[15:28] <dpecka> zykotick9: no, wrong
[15:28] <llutz> zykotick9: it doesn't
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> 64MAA6NDE: the user you log in with is not root, it is your user
[15:29] <64MAA6NDE> so the root@machine name is a pseudo account
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> 64MAA6NDE: if you have gotten to it with:  sudo -i   then you are in an interactive sudo session
[15:29] <coventry> Just took an update to 13.04 which broke vbox guest additions.  Is this a known problem?
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> coventry: reinstall the guest additions
[15:30] <llutz> zykotick9: man sudoers|less -p rootpw
[15:30] <64MAA6NDE> what happens when you do a sudo su ?  I am fairly sure the environment changes then , so isn't that a different account setup ?
[15:30] <llutz> zykotick9: _it does_ in *buntu default config (obviously)
[15:30] <BrianH> coventry: That's very common.  You can just reinstall the guest additions and you should be fine.  I'd recommend making sure your vbox is updated too.
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> 64MAA6NDE: then you become root properly, rather than using your user's environment you use root's
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> 64MAA6NDE: but the root account is locked, but it does exist
[15:31] <ggz> dpecka: ok, i learned something, thanks =)
[15:31] <zykotick9> llutz: hummm, MY BAD!  sorry.  i've never seen that implementation...
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> 64MAA6NDE: if you use:  sudo -i    you will use your user's environment instead
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> 64MAA6NDE: e.g.  $HOME   will be /home/youruser and not /root
[15:32] <llutz> ActionParsnip: still wrong
[15:32] <64MAA6NDE> Okay , cool did not know this , is this limited to *buntu or is it a linux feature ?
[15:32] <llutz> ActionParsnip: sudo -i = initial login shell = root env
[15:32] <dpecka> sudo -i emulates full login() .. it's similar tu su -
[15:33] <llutz> ActionParsnip: sudo -s    is what you mean
[15:33] <llutz> s/is/does/
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> llutz: i see
[15:34] <ggz> bye
[15:34] <onetinsoldier> ActionParsnip: okay. so if i do sudo -i and then do... echo "$HOME" it should return /home/youruser?
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> 64MAA6NDE: anyways, sudo su    isnt great as you lose variables etc from your user session. Both have advantages
[15:34] <dpecka> try it, no
[15:34] <onetinsoldier> i did
[15:34] <onetinsoldier> and it didn't
[15:35] <dpecka> onetinsoldier: well, not sure .. i have enabled root with home in /root
[15:35] <dpecka> so in my case it shows /root
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> onetinsoldier: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6594811/
[15:35] <llutz> onetinsoldier: ActionParsnip confused -s with -i.   -s uses users environment, -i won't
[15:35] <onetinsoldier> mine returned /root as well
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> llutz: yep, see pastebin
[15:36] <llutz> ActionParsnip: sry seen too late
[15:36] <64MAA6NDE> another difference is the log , your last command in root mode will be different than user_mode
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> llutz: np :)
[15:36] <onetinsoldier> oay ActionParsnip . ty
[15:36] <dpecka> onetinsoldier: ah, i badly understood to your point so we were talking about same
[15:36] <coventry`> ActionParsnip, BrianH: Thanks, that fixed it.
[15:36] <coventry`>  
[15:36] <onetinsoldier> llutz: ahhh, okay. thanks!
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> 64MAA6NDE: easier to just run each command with sudo, you get a grace period where you will not be re-asked for your password
[15:40] <dpecka> best way would nice RBAC implementation (like solaris has) and root is not account but role
[15:44] <dpecka> ActionParsnip: llutz anyway guys, thanks for chat, i'd like to at least give you some resources about good secure practise http://www.centos.org/docs/4/4.5/Security_Guide/s2-wstation-privileges-noroot.html .. i suppose you know it all
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> dpecka: its fun to mess with sudoers account, making groups of users and commands, giving access. fun
[15:48] <dpecka> ActionParsnip: well, i'm enterprise architect, i do things like that .. i have in my team two guys with ubuntu and customer wants me to maintain something what they call a basic security and what ubuntu in theirs opinion does not defaultly meet
[15:48] <dpecka> so i'm preparing for my guys some howto for theirs ubuntu
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> dpecka: the default, no it doesn't do much in the way of security
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> dpecka: in that sense
[15:49] <Noobwe> hi again
[15:50] <dpecka> ActionParsnip: well, i only want that everything works fine .. personally i consider default ubuntu setup as dumb and simplyfing just for end users and ridiculously breaking security as well .. that's my personal opinion
[15:50] <jimi_> how do i copy text from xterm?
[15:51] <Noobwe> ctrl+c
[15:51] <dpecka> ActionParsnip: i just wanted to verify things before i commit them
[15:51] <ActionParsnip> dpecka: well yeah but for a home user its enough, for a real multiuser server and so forth a more granular control over users running what commands with sudo is definately needed
[15:51] <dpecka> ActionParsnip: ofc that's pretty much enough :)
[15:51] <MaynardWaters> Hello, I have an old 11.04 system with a raid 5 array. I am wondering what the best way to start fresh with 12.04 or better is and if I should be concerned about my raid array not being recognized by the updated system
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> MaynardWaters: i would do a clean install of Precise and then restore data from backup
[15:52] <dpecka> i never said that it is not like that .. i think that ubuntu security is very same like other distributions ..
[15:53] <MaynardWaters> ActionParsnip: so you would move everything off the array into a handful of externals then clean install then move all the data back?
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> MaynardWaters: yeah, do you not have a scheduled data backup?
[15:56] <Noobwe> can some one tell me a good C++ program
[15:57] <somsip> !info gcc | Noobwe
[15:58] <MaynardWaters> ActionParsnip: I have over 6TB on this machine. I have been trying to get it backed up to another machine I built at another location, but it will probably take another month before that backup is complete
[15:58] <Noobwe> ubottu i have it install but how to i use it
[15:59] <somsip> Noobwe: this channel is for ubuntu support. You probably need a C++ tutorial. And those are not here
[15:59] <MaynardWaters> ActionParsnip: it is weird that I do not think that rsync is "seeing" the files which I already transferred to the remote machine via a usb HD earlier... it looks like it is taking the time to re-transfer all files over the internet, and then it knows that the files exist on both machines
[15:59] <Noobwe> ubottu like how to open it
[15:59] <Noobwe> ok a bot
[15:59] <Paretis> Sooo I'm completely new to IRC and fairly new to Ubuntu. I read that this is where I should come with questions about how to fix my wireless connection... anyone?
[15:59] <asshat> ubottu  what is the meaning of life?
[16:00] <somsip> !details | Paretis
[16:00] <asshat> ubottu how do I hass been to look as if trying to be more like?
[16:00] <ariel_17> ubottu: commit suicide
[16:01] <asshat> ubottu do you love me?
[16:01] <ariel_17> :(
[16:01] <Pici> Please stop abusing the bot.
[16:01] <Noobwe> he is a BOT
[16:01] <asshat> fiiiine
[16:01] <ariel_17> why creating robots if we cannot kill them? :/
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> Noobwe: she is a bot, yes
[16:02] <Noobwe> wait is he or she
[16:02] <ObrienDave> !42
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> !she
[16:02] <asshat> Paretis: what is the problem with your wireless?
[16:02] <zykotick9> !gender | Noobwe
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> !gender
[16:02] <ObrienDave> sorry, just had too ;P
[16:02] <Noobwe> :D
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> !gender
[16:02] <asshat> !genderbender
[16:03] <ariel_17> where can I see the bot commands?
[16:03] <Noobwe> how to i use gxx
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> !brain | ariel_17
[16:03] <Noobwe> gcc*
[16:03] <ariel_17> niiiiiiiice
[16:03] <Pici> The commentary isn't needed.
[16:04] <Noobwe> are the 3 owners bot s too
[16:04] <ObrienDave> no, not hardly. care to find out?
[16:04] <somsip> Noobwe: GCC basics. Start here, move on from that http://is.gd/YD8gLE
[16:04] <compdoc>  commentary about commentary seems rather superfluous
[16:04] <ariel_17> what's the problem about commentaries?
[16:05] <ikonia> ok - enough now
[16:05] <ikonia> the channels topic is Ubuntu - please stick to that topic, if you need any of the rules clarifying please join #ubuntu-ops and the team will be happy to explain
[16:07] <ariel_17> ikonia: if you or any other connects a bot into this room, do you REALLY expect to ANY to no make a single question about?
[16:07] <ariel_17> Sad.
[16:08] <ikonia> ariel_17: you can query it sure, but pointless contious playing with it, no, if you join #ubuntu-ops the team will clarify this for you
[16:10] <roasted_> hi
[16:10] <Noobwe> somsip it s very hard way to to it
[16:10] <roasted_> where besides ~/.mozilla does Firefox store hidden files at. My Firefox keeps defaulting to a Spanish (Chile) spell check, despite being selected in the preferences as US-EN. Not sure what else to do.
[16:10] <dpecka> goodby chan ..
[16:13] <VlperX> I've configured a static IP for my ubuntu 12.04 LTS and now it can't resolve the update servers =/
[16:13] <VlperX> it can ping my server in america, but it can't ping google
[16:14] <OerHeks> VlperX, sounds like a DNS issue
[16:15] <VlperX> indeed
[16:15] <VlperX> i have other servers on the same host that can resolve the libraries
[16:18] <nacitar> with ubuntu 13.10, I have a dual monitor setup and when using the display settings to disable one of the monitors, it works fine but the displays window becomes invisible after the change, and after a 30s or 1min it reverts to the old configuration.  Tried hitting Y, alt+Y, enter, tab+enter, etc to hit a "yes" button to keep the settings assuming the window was off-screen or something, no dice.
[16:22] <ObrienDave> roasted_, http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-do-i-use-firefox-spell-checker#w_switching-dictionaries
[16:28] <bsdbandit> anyone using  ubuntu 12.04 to authenticate with active directory not ldpa
[16:28] <bsdbandit> ldap
[16:31] <roasted_> My Firefox keeps defaulting to Spanish (Chile) spell check, even if I set it to English. Once I close and reopen, it's back to Spanish. Where besides ~/.mozilla does Firefox store hidden files at? I'd like to delete it and remove every trace of it and reinstall to check. Not sure what else to do.
[16:31] <mike-irssi> VlperX: nameserver correct?
[16:31] <shreez> Hi!
[16:32] <mike-irssi> *set correctly
[16:33] <notebook> hello
[16:33] <mirza_> hello
[16:34] <VlperX> mike-irssi, yes it's set to my router
[16:34] <SuperTyp> how do I type these: || in ubuntu
[16:34] <SuperTyp> ?
[16:35] <somsip> SuperTyp: usually two of the key above Enter, with Shift
[16:35] <SuperTyp> above enter is backspace isnt it?
[16:36] <bsdbandit> anyone using  ubuntu 12.04 to authenticate with active directory not ldap using kerbose
[16:36] <SuperTyp> Alt Gr + > was the solution^^
[16:37] <VlperX> SuperTyp, what keyboard are you using?
[16:37] <SuperTyp> german
[16:37] <VlperX> oh..
[16:37] <somsip> SuperTyp: you found it, that's good. Wrong assumption of a US keyboard on my part
[16:37] <k1l> altgr + < is right on german keyboard. the sign is called "pipe"
[16:37] <VlperX> well the pipe | key is shared by the backslash \ for most
[16:38] <SuperTyp> thx, good to know =)
[16:38] <SuperTyp> sorry for net telling you I am on a german keyboard somsip :P
[16:44] <ricado> is the fire closing effect on comfiz still available ?
[16:45] <ricado> i keep looking for it on effects but its not there
[16:48] <OerHeks> ricado, there is a forum talk about compiz and the fire effect > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2068636
[16:48] <OerHeks> no maintainer = no fire efect
[16:49] <zarkos> damn i got hacked
[16:49] <zarkos> they post insults and words on my facebook
[16:50] <OerHeks> zarkos, change your pasword lolz
[16:50] <k1l> !ot | zarkos
[16:50] <ricado> you could have left it online on a friends phone ore you have a second personality
[16:51] <zarkos> first ricardo. i had 3 sessions open
[16:51] <zarkos> lol yes i ll go offtopic
[16:52] <roasted_> My Firefox keeps defaulting to Spanish (Chile) spell check, even if I set it to English. Once I close and reopen, it's back to Spanish. Where besides ~/.mozilla does Firefox store hidden files at? I'd like to delete it and remove every trace of it and reinstall to check. Not sure what else to do.
[16:57] <m1chael> i upgraded to 13.10.. this problem wasn't noticed till now..... when i plug in my external 1tb USB drive, and click in to it (to mount, and view..) my desktop freezes.. no icons are clickable or anything till i unplug/unmount the drive... any ideas on this?
[16:59] <SuperTyp> how can I kill a freezed programm with terminal?
[17:02] <ActionPa1snip> m1chael: when you last unplugged it, did you use the safe removal before physically unplugging it?
[17:02] <ActionPa1snip> m1chael: what format is the file system on the partition?
[17:04] <fabia583> buenas
[17:06] <imMute> so my kernel options include "console=ttyS0,115200n8" and even though I run "dmesg -n 7", KERN_DEBUG messages aren't printed to the console - I have to run dmesg to see them.  This is not the case on my other Linux machine - what is different about Ubuntu?
[17:07] <ActionPa1snip> imMute: ask in #ubuntu-server too :)
[17:08] <glitsj16> imMute: you might need to add the -E switch to dmesg to enable printing messages to the console
[17:10] <imMute> glitsj16: I don't think that's the case because I *do* see all other log levels just fine.
[17:15] <mkoks> hi there, I have situation like this - I have laptop with broken display so I have connected external monitor to it. Problem is - at login screen laptop monitor is the main display and my external monitor just extends it and I cannot see a thing what happens in main screen
[17:16] <mkoks> any suggestions?
[17:16] <ActionPa1snip> mkoks: are there shortcuts on the laptop to chenge thedistplay mode?
[17:16] <mkoks> yes but it does not work on login screen
[17:16] <SunTsu> mkoks: build a xorg.conf that fits your need
[17:17] <mkoks> SunTsu thaks for idea, didnt look at it that way somehow
[17:17] <MegaCat> Hi! I have a quick question on Ask Ubuntu, anyone that want to help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/392613/different-methods-to-install-bitdefender-antivirus-scanner-for-unices It's about installing Bitdefender, and the different methods. PPA or just the deb.run?
[17:17] <Marco-123> hi all. i have a command i need to run a few times (different outcomes each time). its a python script. example: python myscript.py. question: if i append a & at the end of this command, and do it several times, will ubuntu utilize all available cores to handle these "commands/processes"? assuming I do the command more times than there are cores.
[17:18] <asdyxaq> what ways are there to implement the exfat fs into ubuntu?
[17:18] <ActionPa1snip> MegaCat: I'd use the PPA, it will automatically update stuff for you
[17:18] <ActionPa1snip> MegaCat: why are you installing AV?
[17:20] <MegaCat> ActionPa1snip, Okey, but is the deb.run method good, besides the update thing?
[17:20] <ActionPa1snip> MegaCat: no idea, i dont use AV
[17:21] <MegaCat> ActionPa1snip, Why I install AV? Why not?
[17:21] <ActionPa1snip> MegaCat: but a PPA is good as when the PPA is updated, you will get the updates, just like your normal updates
[17:21] <ActionPa1snip> MegaCat: its not needed unless you are running a file server or email server
[17:21] <ActionPa1snip> !av | MegaCat
[17:22] <andyfied> i use AV due to windows files on my fileshare
[17:22] <ActionPa1snip> andyfied: makes sense, save WIndows users from themselves
[17:22] <MegaCat> ActionPa1snip, And yeah, that's why I wanna install it.
[17:22] <davinia> hello, i cant shutdown 12.04 with the message 'modem-manager caught signal 15 [FAIL] how can i fix this? i tryed acpi=off  but doesnt help
[17:22] <andyfied> ActionPa1snip: completely correct :)
[17:22] <ActionPa1snip> davinia: do you use a 3g or dialup modem?
[17:23] <davinia> ActionPa1snip, im on eth boradband, so not using the modem, not sure if my system got one
[17:23] <andyfied> ActionPa1snip: i also refuse to let my users pick their own passwords :D
[17:23] <ActionPa1snip> davinia: does your system do any dialling at all or is the thing you connected to always online?
[17:24] <davinia> ActionPa1snip, always online on broadband
[17:24] <ActionPa1snip> davinia: then you can remove the modem-manager package and it won't be an issue
[17:24] <davinia> ActionPa1snip, sudo purge modem-manager?
[17:25] <ActionPa1snip> davinia: sudo apt-get --purge remove modem-manager
[17:25] <clemont> hallo
[17:25] <ActionPa1snip> davinia: may want to TAB complete the package name
[17:25] <davinia> ActionPa1snip, tnx lemme try holdon
[17:25] <clemont> everyone German?
[17:25] <llutz> !de | clemont
[17:25]  * andyfied isn't german
[17:26] <clemont> thx
[17:26] <sarius> hi guys, how can i reinstall pycharm from scratch, so i can get the dialog where it asks me to insert the license?
[17:27] <davinia> ActionPa1snip, says not a valid operation modem-manager
[17:27] <ActionPa1snip> davinia: sudo apt-get --purge remove modem-manager
[17:28] <davinia> ActionPa1snip, cant find package modem-manager
[17:28] <mike-irssi> ActionPa1snip: launchpad bug report concluded with BIOS update, just saying
[17:28] <davinia> !info modem-manager
[17:28] <mike-irssi> as secondary alternative
[17:28] <ActionPa1snip> davinia: like I said....TAB complete the package name, so type 'mode' instead of 'modem-manager' thenhit TAB
[17:28] <davinia> lets see
[17:29] <ActionPa1snip> davinia: or:  dpkg -l | awk {'print $2'} | grep -i modem
[17:29] <davinia> ActionPa1snip, its uninstalling, packagename was modemmanager
[17:30] <davinia> ActionPa1snip, lemme try a shutdown now brb
[17:42] <MO_Handes> I want to download a folder on the web recursively and I want it to be segmented into threads, what is a good app or way to do it in ubuntu?
[17:44] <alexisisis> just a test, please ignore
[17:46] <LysergicTrip> I want to install ubuntu on my laptop and take the most out of it, what would be a good setup for it?
[17:48] <tgm4883> LysergicTrip, that is a very generic question
[17:49] <tgm4883> MO_Handes, probably wget
[17:49] <tgm4883> oh wait, not sure
[17:49] <MO_Handes> tgm4883, how to segment downloads with wget?
[17:49] <tgm4883> MO_Handes, yea, IDK, I missed that when I skimmed your question
[17:49] <davinia> im trying to shutdown 12.04 with the warning nm dispatcher caught signal 15
[17:51] <MegaCat> Hi there! Can a program read all system files without root?
[17:51] <Calinou> not all, but most of them can be read by an unprivileged user
[17:52] <davinia> Calinou, do you know how i can fix my shutdown freeze?
[17:52] <MegaCat> Okey, so if I run a antivirus engine, it should be run as root, right?
[17:52] <MegaCat> Calinou,
[17:52] <phunyguy> MegaCat, there is a pretty sane set of defaults.  Some stuff can be read, but others can't.
[17:53] <phunyguy> with that said, root can see all.
[17:53] <phunyguy> so yes.
[17:53] <MegaCat> phunyguy, okey,  so if I run a antivirus engine, it should be run as root, so it can read everything?
[17:53] <MegaCat> phunyguy, like Bitdefender
[17:53] <phunyguy> I have never used it.
[17:53] <hassen> why is ubuntuy 13.10 called often saucy?
[17:53] <MegaCat> phunyguy, okey thanks anyway
[17:54] <tgm4883> hassen, that is the codename
[17:54] <phunyguy> hassen, because that is the release name
[17:54] <phunyguy> !saucy
[17:54] <gordonjcp> MegaCat: typically you'd run the antivirus as a user that can read the stuff you want to scan
[17:54] <Calinou> MegaCat, why would you run an antivirus engine?
[17:54] <Calinou> don't
[17:54] <Calinou> there is no need for antiviruses
[17:54] <tgm4883> Calinou, *almost
[17:54] <phunyguy> MegaCat, also IIRC, most Linux AV programs are designed to scan windows volumes.
[17:54] <tgm4883> ^^
[17:54] <gordonjcp> MegaCat: presumably you're scanning mail, or network shares?
[17:54] <davinia> how can i fix a shutdown freeze on 12.04 with warning nm dispatcher caught signal 15 FAIL?
[17:55] <hassen> so earlier releases like 13.04   12.04  etc have a release name each one of them,rather than the numerical version?
[17:55] <phunyguy> davinia, have you messed with any group memberships?
[17:55] <hassen> *other than*
[17:55] <tgm4883> hassen, yes, every release has both a name and a number
[17:55] <Calinou> hassen, released releases are called with their version number. unreleased ones with their codename
[17:55] <Calinou> (usually)
[17:55] <davinia> phunyguy, no just installed it by default, same issue happens on 13.10
[17:55] <phunyguy> Calinou, not true at all.  Please stop spreading untrue things./
[17:56] <Calinou> I've read that somewhere
[17:56] <phunyguy> davinia, did you format /home when you reinstalled?
[17:56] <hassen> Calinou, how come?
[17:56] <Calinou> I do way better at not spreading untrue things compared to LTS fanboys... 8)
[17:56] <phunyguy> Calinou, also, labels, etc.
[17:56] <hassen> tgm4883, phunyguy clearly understood,thanks.
[17:56] <MegaCat> phunyguy, gordonjcp Calinou, I use it to check both my files (that I share with a PC), a extern HDD, and my system of course.
[17:56] <davinia> phunyguy, yes clean installed both to test, cant shutdown properly
[17:56] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[17:56] <MegaCat> wtf happend?
[17:57] <anternat> :)
[17:57] <MegaCat> ubottu, thanks lol
[17:57] <phunyguy> MegaCat, please watch language, (wtf
[17:57] <MegaCat> phunyguy, sorry!
[17:57] <Calinou> MegaCat, a "PC" can be any OS
[17:57] <MegaCat> I mean Where's the food
[17:57] <Calinou> don't use that term to designate only Windows machines
[17:57] <MegaCat> lol
[17:57] <phunyguy> anyways, davinia, not sure then.  maybe it's a bug?
[17:57] <MegaCat> PC I mean Windows, thanks again :D
[17:58] <davinia> phunyguy, yes i read stuff about nivida, but tryed many stuff already
[17:58] <davinia> acpi=off
[17:58] <gordonjcp> MegaCat: ah, there are virus scanners that run on Linux that scan stuff that's shared out to Windows machines
[17:58] <phunyguy> davinia, so file a bug report.
[17:58] <gordonjcp> MegaCat: you probably don't want to run that over the whole filesystem of the Linux machine though
[17:58] <phunyguy> Calinou, please be helpful.
[17:58] <MegaCat> gordonjcp, why?
[17:58] <gordonjcp> MegaCat: well, it will be slow and not especially useful
[17:59] <Calinou> that is being helpful
[17:59] <MegaCat> gordonjcp, Yeah but it doesn't hurt, right? :)
[17:59] <imghost> Megacat, are you running any file server?
[17:59] <phunyguy> Calinou, it really isn't.
[17:59] <gordonjcp> MegaCat: well, it's a waste of time
[17:59] <MegaCat> imghost, no not currently
[17:59] <Calinou> why not? being correct is helpful
[17:59] <phunyguy> Calinou, if you are going to chat in here, please stay on topic rather than just trying to be "Correct"
[18:00] <imghost> Megacat then you do not need an av
[18:00] <Calinou> it is very unlikely you need one
[18:00] <MegaCat> gordonjcp, yeah I know there practically ain't any viruses for linux, but it doesn't hurt. Especially when I share files with other, non linux, computers
[18:00] <davinia> imghost, ive tryed shutdown -h 0 same result
[18:00] <MegaCat> gordonjcp, So you doesn't use any security programs then?
[18:01] <tgm4883> MegaCat, it does take up resources, so technically it does hurt a bit
[18:01] <gordonjcp> MegaCat: no
[18:01] <bsdbandit> Authentication via Kerberos on Linux
[18:01] <davinia> imghost, keeps freezing at same point FAIL nm- dispatcher caught signal 15
[18:01] <bsdbandit> ubuntu linux
[18:01] <gordonjcp> MegaCat: like what?
[18:01] <bsdbandit> anyone done this
[18:01] <bsdbandit> ?
[18:01] <phunyguy> A virus has to be designed to harm a linux system in order to harm said linux system.
[18:01] <imghost> Davinia,thats a serious bug already posted at launchpad
[18:01] <MegaCat> gordonjcp, Like "Snow Leopard" (search it), Bitdefender, Tiger and etc.
[18:01] <davinia> imghost, yes ive readed that bug, and tryed everything they desbribe
[18:01] <MegaCat> * or etc
[18:02] <phunyguy> bsdbandit, are you ahving an issue? You may need to just state the error, what you are trying to achieve, what isn't working....
[18:02] <MegaCat> tgm4883, lol yeah
[18:02] <LysergicTrip> I want to install ubuntu on my laptop, what is the best way to do so i can take the best out of it?
[18:02] <phunyguy> !details > bsdbandit
[18:02] <davinia> imghost, installed nouveau, acpi=off in grub, editing network-manager.conf ...
[18:02] <hassen> doh...
[18:02] <hassen> package installation failed
[18:02] <phunyguy> acpi=off?
[18:02] <hassen> i wonder why
[18:02] <k1l> LysergicTrip: put a .iso on a usb stick and install from there
[18:02] <imghost> Davinia, right now I am using cellphone so please have some patience
[18:02] <MegaCat> LysergicTrip, Download the Live-cd, burn it, boot it, and install from there
[18:02] <hassen> i was installing Audacity and Audaciious
[18:03] <davinia> phunyguy, they describe that, to force the shutdown?
[18:03] <hassen> ***Audacious
[18:03] <k1l> !paste | hassen you know how it works in here, put the informations and errormessages there
[18:03] <phunyguy> davinia, this error seems completely unrelated to acpi
[18:04] <davinia> phunyguy, i found an askbuntu thread with this as fix
[18:04] <bsdbandit> well im trying to configure ubuntu linux to authenticate to active directory using kerobose ive conifgured the pam modules but i keep geting the following error pam_krb5(sshd:setcred): unknown option validate
[18:04] <phunyguy> davinia, please send link to thread
[18:04] <gordonjcp> MegaCat: I don't see the point in any of that
[18:04] <davinia> phunyguy, holdon
[18:05] <phunyguy> bsdbandit, have you tried any utils like Likewise (now PowerBroker Indenity Services - Open)?
[18:05] <MegaCat> gordonjcp, okey. BB
[18:05] <phunyguy> Identity*
[18:05] <davinia> phunyguy, http://askubuntu.com/questions/125844/shutdown-does-not-power-off-computer
[18:05] <bsdbandit> no
[18:05] <bsdbandit> im  going to look that up
[18:06] <phunyguy> davinia, where is this error occuring? When still in desktop?
[18:06] <davinia> phunyguy, after the shutdown, i press F1 to see shutdown msges, and see the FAIL on nm dispatcher
[18:06] <bsdbandit> i have to make sure  this is using kerobose to authenticate to active directory using the keytab file
[18:06] <hassen> here is the error i've got when installing/removing Audacious (same for Audacity)
[18:06] <hassen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6595527/
[18:07] <cheryl_c> can't figure out why this lubuntu 13.04 is not offering me a 'side by side' guided installation process. its only offering to replace windows, or to do a manual install which i'm not comfortable with. we're trying to save a batch of NTFS files also.
[18:07] <davinia> phunyguy, and insteading of halt, system hangs
[18:08] <phunyguy> davinia, as I said, it is a bug, and the report is closed.  If it still an issue, file a bug.
[18:08] <OerHeks> cheryl_c, that would happen when you have 4 primairy partitions already
[18:08] <phunyguy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/987933
[18:08] <davinia> phunyguy, ok, but meanwhile ill try installing 13.04 see if it also hangs
[18:08] <davinia> phunyguy, tnx for the help!
[18:08] <phunyguy> and this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-session/+bug/987220
[18:08] <k1l> hassen: pastebin a "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d/" and a "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get upgrade"
[18:09] <hassen> k1l, understood.
[18:09] <phunyguy> davinia, I have plenty of issues with nvidia proprietary drivers as well.  It's just very buggy.
[18:10] <davinia> phunyguy, ive uninstalled, and tryed them all in additional drivers
[18:10] <phunyguy> davinia, what about the open source driver?
[18:10] <cheryl_c> OerHeks: yes, she has 3 one tb drives (one of which she has her win7 NTFS files on
[18:10] <davinia> phunyguy, free, non-free nouveau nvidia-current
[18:10] <phunyguy> ahh
[18:10] <davinia> phunyguy, all result same freeze
[18:10] <phunyguy> yeah well, not sure then.  Definitely a bug.
[18:10] <davinia> ok tnx
[18:10] <davinia> ill go try 13.04
[18:10] <phunyguy> ok.
[18:10] <phunyguy> good luck, davinia
[18:11] <davinia> tnx phunyguy
[18:12] <jmgk> \/query davinia
[18:12] <jmgk> hhm
[18:13] <Bretos> hey guys, could any of you explain to me what "wicket stacking" is?
[18:13] <h00k> !netsplit
[18:14] <Pici> Bretos: In what context?
[18:16] <Bretos> Pici: it's connected with industrial processes
[18:16] <Pici> Bretos: What does it have to do with Ubuntu?
[18:16] <cheryl_c> OerHeks: ok, NOW its offering me side by side install, after we removed a usb drive that was in the machine. its offering to split the terrabyte in two equal parts of 500 gb, but i don't want to do that, do i?
[18:17] <Bretos> Pici: nothing :D
[18:18] <OerHeks> cheryl_c, the installer should let you change the size, doesn't it?
[18:19] <hassen> k1l, here are the results of    "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d/" and a "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get upgrade"        http://paste.ubuntu.com/6595562/      http://paste.ubuntu.com/6595561/
[18:19] <Pici> Bretos: Well #ubuntu is for Ubuntu questions only, perhaps there is another channel out there on freenode that can help you.
[18:19] <mike-irssi> cheryl_c: why not let it then whne you get back to win7 (i assume where you're comfortable) resize from there
[18:19] <Pici> !alis | Bretos
[18:19] <hassen> !gtk+
[18:20] <mike-irssi> i.e. right click "computer" then "manage" resize with disk management
[18:20] <cheryl_c> mike-irssi: there is a boot issue with the win7 where all her NTFS files are, so we want to preserve that to repair later as i can't/won't to anythinhg with microsoft -- someone else can help with that.
[18:21] <cheryl_c> mike-irssi: what i really need to know right now is how much i should allocate to the two partitions of one terrabyte
[18:21] <peetee> exit
[18:22] <cheryl_c> mike-irssi: she has about 3.2 gb in ntfs files
[18:22] <k1l> hassen: the command didnt went to finish
[18:22] <cheryl_c> mike-irssi: how much in the primary, and how much in the swap file
[18:23] <jmgk> hey there mike-irssi How long did it take you to get IRssi set up?
[18:23] <mike-irssi> cheryl_c: once again i thought you weren't comfortable in making choices
[18:24] <mike-irssi> hence automation
[18:24] <mike-irssi> if you're running a desktop, just enough should do, if you're using a server--much more
[18:24] <mike-irssi> IMO
[18:24] <jmgk> I see mike-irssi
[18:25] <cheryl_c> mike-irssi: ok, what is just enough, do you mean just enough for the install, or don't i have to partition in anticipation of all the other software i'm going to add?
[18:26] <mike-irssi> cheryl_c: linux bricks when it's out of space
[18:26] <hassen> k1l, ok,relaunching them
[18:26] <lickalott> hey if anyone sees Fou, salo, or ch1pasa roll in, tell them I'm looking for them.  I'll be in and out.  tell them to msg me pls?
[18:27] <cheryl_c> mike-irssi: so my question still where do i want to partition?
[18:27] <jmgk> hey all how come a game runs better on WINE on Ubuntu vs Arch on WINE ?
[18:28] <mike-irssi> you meant WINE on Arch, correct?
[18:28] <hassen> k1l, what does   "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get upgrade"   do?
[18:28] <jmgk> yep
[18:28] <jmgk> mike-irssi:
[18:29] <hassen> I got Need to get 96.3 MB/109 MB of archives.
[18:29] <hassen> After this operation, 5,209 kB of additional disk space will be used.
[18:29] <hassen> Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
[18:29] <k1l> hassen: it updates the packages. it doesnt upgrade to a new ubuntu version
[18:29] <lickalott> hassen, update your current ver and upgrade to the next
[18:29] <jmgk> k1l:  do you know why WINE does this ?
[18:29] <lickalott> k1l upgrade doesn't upgrade?
[18:29] <hassen> is that good to get rid of the errors that i get once i install a software?
[18:29] <k1l> jmgk: different wine versions?
[18:29] <jmgk> hm
[18:29] <k1l> lickalott: no. see do-release-upgrade
[18:30] <jmgk> well no it should be the asme version ?
[18:30] <jmgk> ITs the same repo no k1l ?
[18:30] <k1l> hassen: give it a go. then show the output in pastebin again
[18:30] <lickalott> copy k1l
[18:30] <DJones> lickalott: This may help you get a message to those users "/msg MemoServ SEND nickname Please contact me when you get this message.
[18:31] <k1l> !apt | lickalott i think that explaines all the possible apt commands
[18:31] <hassen> i see.
[18:31] <lickalott> tks DJones
[18:31] <cheryl_c> mike-irssi: is 10 gb enough for the first partition, or 100 gb?
[18:32] <cheryl_c> mike-irssi: thats going to include the 3.2 gb of NTFS
[18:32] <Hell_> Hello ...i want to install linux-generic but I get this error: failed to open package /var/lib/dpkg/available
[18:33] <Hell_> please help :)
[18:33] <urielvigilant> bodhilinux will run on Asus eepc 4G ?
[18:34] <k1l> urielvigilant: ask the bodhi specialists :)
[18:34] <urielvigilant> K1l none answear onn that chanel
[18:35] <jmgk> hm
[18:35] <jmgk> urielvigilant:  maybe its a different server?
[18:35] <cheryl_c> mike-irssi: also, i guess she could be addng new ntfs files after her win7 is repaired, so then should i give that first partition 250 gb?
[18:35] <k1l> urielvigilant: well, maybe they got other support ways. have a look at their page
[18:35] <OerHeks> urielvigilant, no it does not, use ubuntu please
[18:35] <mike-irssi> cheryl_c: north of 10 south of 100
[18:36] <cheryl_c> mike-irssi: ok, 75 gb you think?
[18:36] <mike-irssi> plenty
[18:37] <urielvigilant> OerHeks : Ubuntu on a 4 gb machine ? are you talking about minimal iso ?
[18:37] <cheryl_c> mike-irssi: ok, thx going with 75
[18:38] <OerHeks> urielvigilant, no, never mentioned minimal iso.
[18:38] <hassen> k1l, the commands are already doing their works,but can you explain what do they do?i want to learn within the process.
[18:39] <k1l> !apt | hassen
[18:39] <k1l> hassen: they update the packages to the latest one that are on the ubuntu servers
[18:40] <hassen> k1l, in my case,what packages am I updating,
[18:40] <hassen> *?
[18:40] <k1l> hassen: that was told by that command. i dont know what packages you got
[18:40] <hassen> ok,i see
[18:40] <urielvigilant> OerHEks what kind of Ubuntu will run on Asus EEpc ?
[18:41] <Dry_Lips> Hi people... Does Broadcom Wireless drivers (BCM43xx) work out of the box on 13.10, or is there some tweaking required? I'm going to put Ubuntu on my brothers laptop...
[18:41] <bekks> Dry_Lips: Depends on the xx in BCM43xx.
[18:42] <Dry_Lips> bekks: Right... I'll check what kind of card my brother has, brb
[18:43] <Dry_Lips> bekks: that'll be BCM4212
[18:44] <bekks> Dry_Lips: 4212 or 4312?
[18:44] <Dry_Lips> bekks: 4312
[18:44] <Dry_Lips> sorry
[18:44] <Dry_Lips> typo
[18:45] <bekks> Dry_Lips: http://askubuntu.com/questions/11993/how-do-i-install-bcm4312-wireless-drivers
[18:45] <Dry_Lips> Right, so that's pretty simple then... cheers!
[18:45] <Dry_Lips> :-)
[18:46] <KHendrik> Hey folks
[18:47] <KHendrik> I'm trying to comeup with a name for an app for traking fuel consumption of my car ... what do you guys think of 'nozzle'?
[18:47] <k1l> !ot | KHendrik
[18:47] <jmgk> lol
[18:48] <jmgk> KHendrik:  go ask in #cars :)
[18:48] <KHendrik> sorry
[18:49] <KHendrik> though i was in #omg... but yeah i should have noticed this channel is way to active
[18:49] <KHendrik> thought ...
[18:52] <Iriez> why wont the alternative cd install my grub from rescue? when i select sda3 (my boot partition) i just get 'this is a fatal error' ....same happens with sda
[18:52] <Iriez> is there anyway to fix this from shell?
[18:52] <hassen> ummm...ok,here is the result of   "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get upgrade"   :       http://paste.ubuntu.com/6595710/
[18:53] <hassen> 1 minute..restarting my laptop
[18:55] <mike-irssi> Iriez: assuming you had grub installed before, boot-repair will work--you need to apt-get boot-repair i think
[18:56] <Iriez> mike: yes, its installed
[18:57] <hassen> ok
[18:57] <Iriez> I will give it a try but the installer says no network devices found :-/
[18:57] <mike-irssi> idk why the error tbph
[18:57] <FiremanEd> hassen : try apt-get -f install to force an install of the files that didn't get loaded because of the error. Then try apt-get upgrade again, apt-get -f install back and forth until only the package that has the error is left.
[18:58] <hassen> FiremanEd, ummm..ok,trying
[18:59] <llutz> FiremanEd: "apt-get -f" doesn't force anything
[18:59] <k1l> llutz: apt-get -f install
[18:59] <llutz>  -f, --fix-broken
[19:02] <hassen> strange
[19:03] <hassen> i wonder why it keeps getting such errors once i try to download an app from the software center
[19:03] <hassen> commands are themselves getting errors
[19:04] <mathsz> Looking for the *right* way to setup guest additions in virtualbox. HOST ; 64-bit win7. Guest : ubuntu 64-bit 12.04 LTS
[19:04] <k1l> hassen: again: show the details and errors (and commands) in a pastebin. we cant see what you see
[19:04] <cheryl_c> mike-irssi: ok, problem now. installed system side by side, but when i go to restart, it's wanting to go directly to the bad win7 boot sequence, not offering me choice of ubuntu or win7
[19:05] <xerox_alto> hello community how do i set up a dualboot with 2 ubuntu distros and LVM with encryption for each? what grub config do i need?
[19:05] <hassen> k1l, i pasted them already before my last reboot
[19:06] <hassen> try to scroll up?
[19:06] <k1l> hassen: first they are incomplete again. and FiremanEd gave you a possible solution
[19:06] <hassen> k1l, ok,i see
[19:07] <mike-irssi> cheryl_c: does she have a windows rescue disk
[19:08] <cheryl_c> mike-irssi: no
[19:08] <hassen> k1l, considering my last pastebin,the shell returned to my ~ directory,doesn't that mean that the commands finished working?
[19:08] <k1l> hassen: the paste is cut off at the beginning
[19:09] <mike-irssi> cheryl_c: what about a recovery partition
[19:09] <cheryl_c> mike-irssi: we're not necessarily worried about win7, because ubuntu detects all her NTFS files -- just want to boot into ubuntu
[19:10] <cheryl_c> mike-irssi: i'm not sure, can i make one with gpartd?
[19:12] <xerox_alto> hello community how do i set up a dualboot with 2 ubuntu distros and LVM with encryption for each? what grub config do i need?
[19:13] <mike-irssi> cheryl_c: why not just run from the live cd, backup the files to a usb and then rerun ubuntu install, wipe out win7
[19:14] <mike-irssi> no more side by side, incidentally you either didn't install grub or chose the wrong location
[19:14] <hassen> I got these results after trying FiremanEd's solution:    http://paste.ubuntu.com/6595831/
[19:18] <hassen> at k1l
[19:22] <cheryl_c> mike-irssi: we're discussing that. problem, i don't know how to backup those files, would you be able to help me thru it
[19:24] <mike-irssi> cheryl_c: if you need to, just grab a .iso of windows recovery--it's a download then get to a command prompt and fixmbr
[19:24] <DataNully> mike-irssi, I've noticed that writing to usb drives or sticks has rotten performance and high system loads
[19:27] <daftykins> hassen: perhaps try "apt-get install --reinstall update-openoffice-dicts"
[19:27] <Daekdroom> How do I set a process priority when I start it through command line?
[19:28] <cheryl_c> mike-irssi: where do we get that .iso -- she has a win7 complete install disk
[19:28] <hassen> daftykins, what does openoffice have to do with this?
[19:28] <daftykins> cheryl_c: booting that will work to get to recovery options
[19:28] <daftykins> hassen: well i don't know what your issue is, but judging from that pastebin of yours that's an error that could do with being resolved
[19:29] <K4k> For some reason my auto installer using us.archive.ubuntu.com continues to throw a "bad archive mirror" message. console 4 shows the following message: mirror does not support the specified release (precise)". I'm not sure what the issue is and looking for help.
[19:29] <cheryl_c> daftykins: she says she tried that and it didn't repair
[19:29] <mike-irssi> cheryl_c: when you have that up and loaded, you'll see something like "advanced" or "troubleshooting" then open a command prompt and do bootrec.exe /fixmbr
[19:29] <bekks> K4k: just use another mirror.
[19:29] <daftykins> cheryl_c: doesn't sound very conclusive as to having been run correctly, auto repair methods won't have helped
[19:29] <K4k> I've tried several, ch. uk. and archive.
[19:30] <hassen> daftykins, my main issue wss that I get errors once I try to install an app via the software center,I didn't make it with Audacity and Audacious.
[19:31] <Toyraztory> Hellow
[19:31] <Toyraztory> Having error with compex or compix
[19:31] <daftykins> hassen: well you have errors being flagged with "myspell-st" and the open office package i mentioned above, so you might want to correct those to keep dpkg and apt happy before going much further
[19:31] <Toyraztory> what does this mean, should i be worried?
[19:31] <K4k> bekks: er, sorry. us.archive, gb.archive, ch.archive and straight archive.ubuntu and they all fail
[19:33] <bekks> K4k: Sounds like the error was synced across mirrors :) I'd just wait until it is fixed.
[19:33] <JanC_UEFI_test> Daekdroom: use 'nice' or 'schedtool'?
[19:34] <Daekdroom> JanC_UEFI_test, I think what I'm asking for is an environment variable.
[19:34] <K4k> bekks: and here I am trying to stand up a local mirror to avoid just this problem when building production systems >_<
[19:35] <bekks> K4k: I'd not invest the effort - basically you could have synced the same error onto your local mirror.
[19:36] <designbybeck> I have a mp4, what is the best way to burn it as a video dvd disk so it works in DVD players ?
[19:36] <Toyraztory> Having error with compex or compix
[19:37] <htnns> how can i get a recent browser on 12.04 (lts)? my laptop broke and it was a pain to update my old one even up to 12.04
[19:38] <mike-irssi> designbybeck: dvd-r (recordable) has the best standalone compatibility, you'd want to convert into VOBs and IFO
[19:38] <mike-irssi> dvdshrink?
[19:39] <mike-irssi> i'm sorry, convertxtodvd
[19:39] <designbybeck> mike-irssi, that is the software I should try convertxtodvd
[19:39] <mike-irssi> designbybeck: yes
[19:40] <designbybeck> Ok thank you mike-irssi  I'll check it out
[19:41] <hassen> is ubuntu 13.10 less stable than 12.04 opr even 13.04 ?
[19:41] <trism> htnns: both firefox and chromium are up-to-date on 12.04 (at least with respect to the other releases)
[19:41] <hassen> thought that it's yet too new to be stable
[19:44] <jimi_> Anyone here use webcamstudio for ubuntu, or have a better way to do a fake webcam?
[19:44] <bekks> jimi_: Whats a fake webcam?
[19:45] <hassen> jimi_, me too :(..been searching for that
[19:45] <hassen> jimi_, they say you can build a script for that
[19:46] <hassen> 1 sec let me get the link
[19:46] <jimi_> bekks, like a loop back device that pretends to be a video cam
[19:46] <bekks> jimi_: And what is that for? :)
[19:47] <hassen> bekks, for streaming
[19:48] <hassen> bekks, e.g a virtual webcam where you can edit its output so if forms a TV station in the streaming server(like UStream/Bambuser/Twitch/etc)
[19:49] <hassen> equal to ManyCam/SCFH/etc in windows
[19:50] <mike-irssi> jimi_: webcamstudio
[19:51] <jimi_> mike-irssi, i already said that lol
[19:51] <mike-irssi> never used it but i've done that on chat roulete myself
[19:51] <mike-irssi> i know you did
[19:55] <Iriez> okay, so im in boot repair x64 (from cd) and its asking me to update my grub2 and its not giving me my /boot as a option to install to
[19:55] <Iriez> it gives me my LVM (/dev/dm-1) and sda only as a option.
[19:56] <hassen> jimi_, couldn't install it as well..though i have done that,but yet the software wasn't even working
[19:56] <glitsj16> jimi_: webcamstudio has a PPA, although it only offers packages for saucy, quantal and raring .. https://launchpad.net/~webcamstudio/+archive/webcamstudio-dailybuilds .. never used it myself, so the usual warnings about PPA's apply
[19:57] <Iriez> also while going through the processes boot repair told me about it warned me about invalid lines in my /etc/crypttab
[19:57] <Iriez> which is probably what was causing my boot issue in the first place
[19:57] <Iriez> as it wont prompt me to unlock my password for the crypt on boot
[19:58] <Iriez> Just forwards me to initramfs
[19:59] <hassen> glitsj16, it's not even stable
[19:59] <hassen> i have tried it many times before
[20:00] <glitsj16> hassen: okay, they just released a fresh build today, but as you said, their 'stable' PPA is empty, ymmv
[20:00] <bsdbandit> hey i noticed that lib/security/pam_krb5.so is missing in ubuntu 12.04 what do i need to install in order to having that in the /lib/security directory
[20:01] <mike-irssi> Iriez: is there any reason to think if you take the option you can't later find a solution to the way it was
[20:01] <mike-irssi> and set it right again
[20:01] <Iriez> mike-irssi: im not sure what you mean?
[20:02] <Iriez> I have my boot backed up and its properly configured (TJ helped me)
[20:02] <Iriez> so i think the underlying issue is with cryptttab
[20:02] <Iriez> which I know nothing about
[20:02] <Iriez> So i really need to fix the crypt tab, and restore my boot configuration that was previously working (atleast it pointed to the right directions.)
[20:03] <Iriez> I've attempted to re-install my system several times now
[20:03] <Iriez> and its not resolving the underlying crypttab issue
[20:08] <luckyuser> hallo
[20:08] <mike-irssi> Iriez: i remember reading something about corrupt systems, chown or chron i think
[20:08] <mike-irssi> not chown, obviously
[20:10] <JMerklin> Hey, so I'm looking to learn some things about Ubuntu for school and I've been instructed to dual-boot it with my Windows 8.1 on my laptop. Is this the right channel for questions I have during the process?
[20:10] <glitsj16> bsdbandit: using apt-file you can search through all packages in your active repos for files, it seems to be part of the libpam-krb5 package .. and should be available for precise
[20:10] <bsdbandit> yeah its there i did a search
[20:10] <bsdbandit> thanks man
[20:11] <mike-irssi> chroot! not chron
[20:11] <glitsj16> bsdbandit: no problem, should be easily added to your system
[20:13] <TitoN> hi. i just got a dell r320 server and wanted to install ubuntu on it. I tried to setup a raid1 but it didnt seem to work when i did a raid1 with discs in raid mode as opposed to ahci mode and then do a software raid..... with software raid the os installs but after reboot it stops att looking for devices......anyone know what that can be?
[20:14] <glitsj16> JMerklin: you might have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI if you haven't already, and yes, this is the right place for additional help
[20:15] <Balzy> hello, I'm planning to reinstall kubuntu due to some drivers problems and messed up settings, my computer is an asus laptop with a RADEON HD 7470M and an intel integrated graphic card, what which drivers would you suggest me to install to have full compatibility and reduce energy consumption?
[20:17] <mike-irssi> Balzy: energy consumption varies with window managers i've noticed
[20:17] <tgm4883> Balzy, I had to install the proprietary amd drivers for my hybrid dell with intel/amd 7500m
[20:18] <tehrabbitt> Oh Hai
[20:19] <tgm4883> Balzy, specifically, I believe I installed the beta driver from http://support.amd.com/en-us/download/desktop?os=Linux%20x86_64
[20:20] <jamesdee2> hi i just installed linux and i have an error on my screen when i log in
[20:21] <Balzy> mike-irssi, tgm4883 thanks, so probably kde is probably the worst choice for a notebook?
[20:21] <Balzy> tgm4883 did you compile them on your own or installed them through the "Third party drivers/proprietary drivers" utility?
[20:21] <lickalott> jamesdee2 and......
[20:22] <Balzy> jamesdee2 explain what kind of error
[20:22] <cyberputz> it says root@ubuntu-jamesdee:~#
[20:22] <cyberputz> lol
[20:22] <lickalott> lmao
[20:22] <tgm4883> Balzy, if you get those drivers from the site, there is an option to compile them into a deb package. I did that and then just installed the deb package. The "Third party drivers/proprietary drivers" didn't have new enough drivers to support my card when I got it
[20:22] <tehrabbitt> wow...
[20:23] <Balzy> LOL
[20:23] <Balzy> it says root@ubuntu-jamesdee:~#
[20:23] <Balzy> that's the bash shell
[20:23] <Balzy> not an error
[20:24] <Pici> They're not even here anymore.
[20:24] <tgm4883> he also didn't say that (AFAICT)
[20:24] <cyberputz> nah that was me
[20:25] <andyfied> a fair response to "Help I have a problem /leave"
[20:25] <Balzy> tgm4883 for instance, did you had some severe energy consumption problem + heating? cause m asus run out of battery in less than an hour
[20:25] <andyfied> unless his problem was with his irc
[20:25] <tgm4883> Balzy, yes, basically both cards are powered at the same time without the prop drivers
[20:26] <tgm4883> Balzy, I believe you can also use vga_switcheroo, but I wanted to do some light gaming with the amd card
[20:26] <dbrown> So I installed ubuntu
[20:26] <dbrown> but its not working
[20:26] <Balzy> I'm trying to solve that with a fresh and more recent installation and proprietary drivers (latest kernel etc)... so I have to install drivers for the Intel too?
[20:27] <tgm4883> Balzy, no, just the AMD drivers
[20:27] <dbrown> there is no screen
[20:27] <Balzy> okay and after having installed them, will both cards be still powered?
[20:28] <Balzy> do I have to shut one of them down "by myself"?
[20:28] <tgm4883> Balzy, after they are installed, you select which card you want to use.
[20:28] <tgm4883> Balzy, IIRC, 'ati-config --px-igpu' gives you the integrated (intel) card
[20:28] <dbrown> will somebody tell me why there is no screen
[20:28] <m1chael> i upgraded to 13.10.. this problem wasn't noticed till now..... when i plug in my external 1tb USB drive, and click in to it (to mount, and view..) my desktop freezes.. no icons are clickable or anything till i unplug/unmount the drive... any ideas on this?
[20:29] <Balzy> ah wonderlful ;) tgm4883 Should I prefer the intel if I'm not gonna run heavy graphic softwares? would I get some important energy saving=
[20:29] <Balzy> ?=
[20:29] <tgm4883> Balzy, yes. I run the intel side 95% of the time
[20:29] <lickalott> dbrown, it installed fine?  What version?  Where/when did it stop working (after first reboot, worked fine then after reboot it stopped,etc...)  Pretend like your us and we are your grandparents trying to figure out why
[20:29] <lickalott> "the google" isn't working
[20:30] <tgm4883> Balzy, if you aren't going to use the non-intel side, you might just want to check out vga_switcheroo
[20:30] <tgm4883> Balzy, http://askubuntu.com/questions/205112/how-do-i-get-amd-intel-hybrid-graphics-drivers-to-work
[20:30] <dbrown> lickalott: i think it did install right but idk and i got the 12 server. i follow directs and then turn it off when done and remove dvd and wam no works
[20:30] <Balzy> tgm4883 so you select each time the graphic card?
[20:31] <tgm4883> Balzy, you only select it when you want to switch, then you reboot
[20:31] <lickalott> what happens when you reboot?  after bios post
[20:31] <lickalott> dbrown ^^
[20:31] <dbrown> lickalott: i got the blinking
[20:31] <dbrown> _
[20:31] <dbrown> just say log in
[20:32] <lickalott> did you try to log in dbrown
[20:32] <andyfied> dbrown: i think it's supposed to look like that
[20:32] <Balzy> tgm4883 okay thankyou very much, I hope I'll solve this damned battery/heating issue :)
[20:32] <lickalott> it may be a resolution thing.  I have my server on a 42 inch plasma and i had to adjust the V & H to get it all within the screen.
[20:33] <lickalott> if you think that may be it, go to your monitor menu and select auto adjust for your V & H
[20:33] <lickalott> if not....try to log in
[20:33] <dbrown> what is my password
[20:33] <lickalott> server isn't gui based so you'll only EVER see command line prompts
[20:33] <mike-irssi> m1chael: permisions issue i guess
[20:33] <lickalott> are you joking?
[20:33] <dbrown> no
[20:34] <dbrown> on window it has you make account
[20:34] <dbrown> i didnt make no account
[20:34] <tehrabbitt> maybe he's trying to log in as root and doesn't know the default
[20:34] <lickalott> how would we know what your password is?  you should've set that up during installation
[20:34] <lickalott> try
[20:34] <lickalott> ubuntu and ubuntu
[20:34] <lickalott> or ubuntu and <enter>
[20:34] <dbrown> i try on first line i put ubuntu ubuntu and then no
[20:35] <tgm4883> dbrown, do you see a login prompt?
[20:35] <dbrown> !!!! where is my button
[20:35] <lickalott> ubuntu > hit enter  then ubuntu > hit enter again
[20:35] <OerHeks> name ubuntu pass <empty>
[20:36] <blinky_> Hi all, Wondering if someone can help get my sound back.  I have just done a fresh install of xUbuntu 13.10(up from 13.04).  Now I have no sound, did have on 13.04. running alsamixer only shows the nvidia hdmi sound not the onboard.  I'm running an HP Mini 311c, cheers
[20:36] <dbrown> i have no enter button bcus there is no button on the screen and thats what i am saying!!!!!
[20:36] <tgm4883> dbrown, seriously...
[20:36] <tgm4883> dbrown, the enter button is on your keyboard
[20:36] <dbrown> where im not saying enter
[20:37] <lickalott> return ? maybe
[20:37] <dbrown> ah yes i have return
[20:37] <tgm4883> dbrown, do you actually see the login prompt on your screen (it should say "login")
[20:37]  * lickalott facepalms
[20:37] <dbrown> tgm4883: yeah but im not seeing any button
[20:37] <lickalott> tgm4883 I think it's off the screen
[20:37] <lickalott> needs to adjust his resolution
[20:38] <andyfied> dbrown: the only buttons will be on your keyboard
[20:38] <lickalott> what button are you looking for dbrown
[20:38] <tgm4883> dbrown, there will be no button on the screen
[20:38] <tgm4883> lickalott, dbrown is on ubuntu server right?
[20:38] <lickalott> server is command line ONLY.  No buttons on the screen because there is NO GUI
[20:38] <lickalott> that's what he said
[20:38] <dbrown> what is gui
[20:38] <dbrown> and how do i get it
[20:38] <tgm4883> oh ffs
[20:38] <lickalott> gui = graphical user interface
[20:38] <blinky_> graphical user interface
[20:39]  * tehrabbitt facepalms
[20:39] <Pici> dbrown: Please stop wasting people's time.
[20:39] <lickalott> and if you want it you need to not be using the server release.
[20:39] <lickalott> you need desktop
[20:39] <tgm4883> Pici, thanks
[20:39]  * Balzy is asking himself whether people really don't know which is the enter button / how a command line looks like or they are just trolling us
[20:39] <blinky_> any ideas people?
[20:39]  * lickalott thinks trolling
[20:39] <tehrabbitt> dbrown: once you get in, rm -rf ./*
[20:39] <tehrabbitt> jk
[20:39] <tgm4883> blinky_, I missed what you asked
[20:39] <lickalott> but I'm bored so I'll play
[20:39] <blinky_> Hi all, Wondering if someone can help get my sound back.  I have just done a fresh install of xUbuntu 13.10(up from 13.04).  Now I have no sound, did have on 13.04. running alsamixer only shows the nvidia hdmi sound not the onboard.  I'm running an HP Mini 311c, cheers
[20:39] <Pici> tehrabbitt: don't do that.
[20:39] <tehrabbitt> ok
[20:39] <tehrabbitt> :(
[20:39] <tgm4883> !danger | tehrabbitt
[20:39] <hassen> doh..that myspell-st thingy..
[20:39]  * tehrabbitt was kidding
[20:39] <lickalott> effin auto correct....
[20:39] <Pici> Lets move on.
[20:39] <lickalott> LOL
[20:40] <blazeme8> Hey, should I be concerned if the bitmap for a mdadm array is labled as: bitmap: 6/22 pages
[20:40] <blazeme8> instead of 22/22 pages?
[20:40] <Balzy> tehrabbitt that's not kind..
[20:40] <lickalott> blazeme8, whats the problem?  I missed it
[20:40] <mike-irssi> blinky_: first check if it's muted, apt-get install gnome-alsamixer
[20:40] <mike-irssi> also check that you're in the audio group
[20:41] <blazeme8> lickalott: the bitmap on my mdadm array says: bitmap: 6/22 pages
[20:41] <blazeme8> And i'm wondering if that's bad or normal.
[20:41] <blinky_> not muted, just installing alsamixer
[20:41] <blazeme8> it's an internal bitmap, if that matters.
[20:41] <lickalott> got nothing for ya man  sorry
[20:41] <K4k> Can someone sanity check me and attempt a netboot in a vm or something and let me know if your getting a "bad archive mirror" error? I've literally tried every mirror in the list and they all appear to be broken. I can't get my work done and I'd feel better knowing it wasn't just me
[20:41] <blazeme8> Kk, thanks anyway
[20:42] <blinky_> no alsamixer is only showing "Nvidia MCP79/7A HDMI"
[20:42] <tgm4883> K4k, I can check that, have a link to the netbook iso?
[20:42] <andyfied> blazeme8: are there any errors being reported?
[20:42] <K4k> tgm4883: thanks, let me get you one (I haven't downloaded it in a while, give me a sec to find it)
[20:42] <blinky_> mike: what do you mean in the audio group?
[20:42] <mike-irssi> blinky_: let me know if gnome-alsamixer has an x under muted
[20:43] <mike-irssi> and what is the output of groups username
[20:43] <K4k> tgm4883: This should be it: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-updates/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[20:43] <blinky_> mike-irssi#: only under mic
[20:43] <andyfied> blazeme8: do you get any errors when you run: mdadm --detail /dev/md0
[20:44] <blazeme8> one sec, checking,
[20:44] <Beldar> !sound | blinky_ take a look here.
[20:45] <blinky_> running "lspci" in terminal is not even showing another sound card apart from the hdmi one
[20:45] <blazeme8> andyfied: no errors. it's not acting up for anything, im just curious.
[20:45] <blinky_> will have a look through those site, cheers
[20:46] <andyfied> blazeme8: i've looked it up and it's just like a cache so it can be anything from empty to full
[20:46] <andyfied> blazeme8: the pages get allocated as and when they need to
[20:46] <andyfied> blazeme8: https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Mdstat#bitmap_line <- nothing to worry about
[20:46] <blazeme8> andyfied: ah ok. that makes sense, thanks
[20:47] <K4k> tgm4883: You know what, now that I've tried the vanilla mini.iso, it seems to work o_O... I hope it's not my iso
[20:47] <tgm4883> K4k, so I don't need to test it?
[20:47] <K4k> no, thanks for offering thought!
[20:47]  * K4k gives tgm4883 a high five
[20:47] <tgm4883> K4k, yw, I'm going to grab lunch then
[20:48] <andyfied> blazeme8: you can run cat /proc/mdstat as well to get more info, but it sounds like it's normal :)
[20:48] <blazeme8> Yea, thats where i was reading the bitmap thing
[20:49] <andyfied> mine is 0/10, probably because i'm not reading or writing
[20:49] <blazeme8> im preparing to add an 8th disk :). Gonna do some dry runs in QEMU first
[20:49] <andyfied> good plan :)
[20:50] <MadsRC> What would yield the best performance/useability when accessing a Ubuntu desktop over the network (Both LAN and over VPN & SSH)? X11 Forwarding or VNC? or maybe something else?
[20:51] <andyfied> MadsRC: I've been told vnc is not as good as x11
[20:51] <andyfied> for performance
[20:51] <MadsRC> I've always thought VNC was "bloggish"
[20:51] <MadsRC> Never used X11 forwarding though
[20:52] <andyfied> MadsRC: sadly i can't remember why he was saying vnc sucked
[20:52] <andyfied> i'm getting cygwin to try out x11 forwarding so we might have to help each other :)
[20:52] <MadsRC> Basicly VNC is a bunch of jpeg/gifs being send over the network, which is why it isn't smooth
[20:52] <MadsRC> Hehe, let me know how it goes :P
[20:53] <andyfied> i will
[20:54] <andyfied> i think one of the main reasons is i have to login to the DE on my file server to be able to vnc to is, where i would rather have it in a different room without a monitor
[20:55] <andyfied> first i have to wait for cygwin to dl
[20:55] <MadsRC> Why do you even have a DE on a file server?
[20:55] <andyfied> it didn't start as a file server
[20:55] <MadsRC> And couldn't you just use putty for x11 forwarding to windowz
[20:55] <MadsRC> Ah :P
[20:56] <mike-irssi> vnc is awful
[20:56] <Pici> X11 forwarding is slow, even locally.
[20:56] <andyfied> putty's help told me to get cygwin
[20:56] <MadsRC> any other idea what to use instead of vnc and x11 forward?
[20:57] <andyfied> that's all i've read about so far
[20:57] <compdoc> vnc4server always worked well for me on the lan, and a little sluggish over a vpn. x11vnc is a good choice too. Unfortunately, I havent been able to make vnc work with the last version of Ubuntu. They dont have a 2d version of unity anymore
[20:58] <andyfied> speed isn't a big issue since i'm just doing to the de to check up on a few bits that i don't know how to do in the terminal
[20:58] <compdoc> x11rdp is a great choice too, which is what I use anymore. mostly
[20:58] <MadsRC> Hmm, I'll have to research those :P
[20:58] <andyfied> vino comes with *buntus anyway so it's easy to fire up and see how it goes
[20:59] <MadsRC> Need something with the same performance/smoothness as Windows RDP
[21:00] <compdoc> thats what gets me - vino works, but vnc4server and x11vnc dont because the xstartup file requires a working .session
[21:00] <MadsRC> Think I'm gonna try X11 Forward and if that is too slow, I'll try NX Technology instead
[21:02] <compdoc> well, someone will figure it out. meanwhile, x11rdp works great
[21:02] <gordonjcp> MadsRC: what exactly are you trying to do?
[21:04] <timg_> hi, i try to setup a port tunnel of a port tunnel, it's quite easy, i want to access a mysql server behind a dmz. so i MUST tunnel throught the dmz and than i must tunnel from the dns to the server? the dms itself had acceess to the server ...
[21:04] <MadsRC> I need near-native performance for a server used to do GPU calculations and GNS3 simulations. Unfortunately the GNS3 can't be done in the terminal so I'd have to have a small graphical interface (Not unity or xfce or even ldxe, lighter than those) and present it remotely
[21:05] <gordonjcp> MadsRC: how well that works is going to be a function of your network connectivity
[21:05] <prx> hey, my headphones jack is not playing anything, i recently installed KDE... never had that issue before
[21:05] <prx> i cant see any headphones or speakers under kmix
[21:05] <OerHeks> timg_, "behind a DMZ" ?? DMZ = Demilitarized Zone = no obstacle, no firewall
[21:05] <compdoc> timg_, just need one tunnel, and if dns doesnt work, use the ip address directly, if possible
[21:06] <MadsRC> Partly true. Windows RDP gives better useability than a VNC session, so it's not 100% network uplink. But for the sake of argument the machine is sitting behind a Tier 1 Service Provider with a 1gig up and 1gig down.
[21:13] <a7i3n> Not alot going on here lately
[21:14] <prx> can anyone help? ;/
[21:21] <andyfied> prx: i'm not good with audio myself, have you had any joy on the forums so far?
[21:22] <EUSKEPTIC> anyone using picbuntu on mini pc rockchip 3066?
[21:27] <korylprince> hello all. Anyone here experienced trouble with bnx2 drivers and bonding on newer kernels?
[21:27] <bekks> !anyone | korylprince
[21:29] <korylprince> Okay... I have a few servers using the bnx2 driver on 12.04. I'm bonding two such interfaces together in mode4 (lacp). This works fine on the linux 3.2. However when upgrading to the lts-raring kernels, as soon as the system boots it just freezes.
[21:29] <bekks> korylprince: And why do you suspect bonding to be responsible for your freezes?
[21:30] <korylprince> It's the only common denominator. I can have both NICs plugged in with IP addresses and it works fine. As soon as I try bonding on a 3.8 kernel the server freezes within a few seconds, often spitting a bnx2 debug message
[21:30] <korylprince> (Usually the message says something about the "Copper" being disconnected.)
[21:31] <bekks> korylprince: Which message in particular?
[21:31] <korylprince> If I start the server on a 3.2 kernel it flies.
[21:31] <korylprince> bekks: give me a second and I'll pull it from the logs
[21:32] <bekks> korylprince: And did you setup the switch to provide LACP, too?
[21:33] <korylprince> bnx2 0000:0b:00.0 eth0: NIC Copper Link is Down
[21:34] <korylprince> that's the last thing it will spit out
[21:34] <korylprince> bekks: yes. Everything works fine if I'm booting in a 3.2 kernel. As soon as I reboot into a 3.8 kernel is when I have problems.
[21:36] <metasansana> Where can I find configuration information about prompt.cfg and txt.cfg on install isos?
[21:37] <hassen> isn't there a way to reset ubuntu to the state of being freshly installed?
[21:37] <bekks> hassen: No.
[21:37] <korylprince> bekks: also note that it doesn't matter what bonding mode I use. I've put it in other modes with the same result.
[21:38] <hassen> bekks, what about this one:  rm -rf .gnome .gnome2 .gconf .gconfd .metacity
[21:38] <bekks> hassen: Thats only removing your personal configs, but not restoring the config of the system.
[21:38] <hassen> does that command remove the update packs i've installed?
[21:39] <bekks> hassen: No. It removes files.
[21:39] <hassen> software update
[21:39] <ertyuiz> hi
[21:39] <hassen> like language packs
[21:39] <bekks> hassen: "No".
[21:39] <hassen> ok, see.
[21:39] <hassen> i se*
[21:40] <ertyuiz> how to change user on ubuntu ?
[21:40] <TJ-> korylprince: Which BNX device is it? Does it have the latest firmware? I've seen reports of similar issues solved with a firmware update.
[21:40] <ertyuiz> once connected ?
[21:40] <andyfied> ertyuiz: log out then back in again
[21:40] <ertyuiz> command ?
[21:41] <korylprince> TJ-: Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme II BCM5716 Gigabit Ethernet
[21:41] <korylprince> TJ-: That's my next step
[21:42] <ertyuiz> sorry i mean
[21:42] <ertyuiz> how to change user taking his profile?
[21:42] <hassen> but how to restore the system language's pack to its initial state?
[21:42] <bekks> ertyuiz: That doesnt make sense. Please rephrase.
[21:43] <bekks> hassen: Uninstall all language packs you've installed since installation of the system.
[21:43] <Cheryl_c> ubuntu installation does not give me dual boot screen with windows7
[21:43] <bekks> !dualboot | Cheryl_c
[21:43] <hassen> bekks, the problem is that i forgot which ones exactly were enabled,should I just leave 'english' and get rid of that?
[21:43] <ertyuiz>   how to change to an other user with loading the first user profile  ?
[21:43] <bekks> hassen: Thats your choice :)
[21:43] <hassen> bekks, lmao
[21:44] <hassen> Cheryl_c, is win7 already installed?
[21:44] <andyfied> ertyuiz: to log out you'd use exit
[21:45] <andyfied> then log back in again
[21:45] <bekks> ertyuiz: do you mean "sudo"?
[21:45] <ertyuiz> no
[21:45] <bekks> ertyuiz: then it doesnt make sense to "change to an other user with loading the first user profile". What are you actually trying to do?
[21:46] <ertyuiz> just want to load my first user's profil from my second user interface
[21:46] <bekks> ertyuiz: Thats not possible.
[21:47] <bekks> ertyuiz: either use one user, or the other.
[21:47] <ertyuiz> can we do something with /etc/profile
[21:47] <bekks> ertyuiz: No.
[21:47] <fishscene> ertyuiz: Are you trying to do something like a "default profile"?
[21:48] <ertyuiz> ssh user@ubuntu loadfirstuser's /etc/profile
[21:48] <ertyuiz> ???
[21:48] <bekks> ertyuiz: No.
[21:48] <ertyuiz> so what is the equivalent of that command ?
[21:48] <lilVaratep> any good books out there for learning ubuntu?
[21:48] <Cheryl_c> hassen: windows7 already installed but corrupted. I want to install ubuntu on a separate partition so that I can still see my files
[21:49] <bekks> ertyuiz: IF yiou just want to source the profile of another user, just run ". /home/seconduser/.profile"
[21:49] <bekks> ertyuiz: after closing the terminal, that "change" will be lost.
[21:49] <hassen> Cheryl_c, did you install ubuntu now?
[21:49] <Cheryl_c> hassen: twice
[21:50] <ertyuiz> ok perfect i get
[21:50] <ertyuiz> thanks a lot
[21:50] <hassen> Cheryl_c, hang on sec
[21:51] <Cheryl_c> when I go to reboot the ubuntu installation it brings up the broken win7 partition
[21:51] <hassen> Cheryl_c, do you see grub rescue > in the corrupted boot screen?
[21:51] <glitsj16> lilVaratep: you can get a free manual on http://ubuntu-manual.org/ for starters
[21:52] <Cheryl_c> hassen: no
[21:53] <hassen> Cheryl_c, how did the issue happen at the beginning,elaborate iot
[21:53] <hassen> 6it
[21:53] <hassen> it
[21:55] <Cheryl_c> hassen: I formatted the windows partition by mistake. I can see all my files with ubuntu but do not have a repair disk
[21:55] <hassen> Cheryl_c, you installed ubuntu in another partition,other than win7's oe?
[21:55] <hassen> *one?
[21:56] <TJ-> korylprince: You could also try: "modprobe bnx2 disable_msi=1"
[21:56] <Cheryl_c> hassen: yes
[21:57] <able> I have a Microsoft Surface Pro 2 and while the keyboard works fine during install it stops working at first boot
[21:57] <hassen> Cheryl_c, open terminal and type  "sudo apt-get install syslinux"   press enter then type  "sudo dd if=/usr/lib/syslinux/mbr.bin of=/dev/sda"
[21:57] <able> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64811
[21:57] <hassen> Cheryl_c, win7 MBR is corrupted
[21:57] <hassen> that's what happened
[21:57] <able> Is there any way to could configure the installed system to use the reduced drivers used during install?
[21:57] <korylprince> TJ-: I've been down that road already... No dice...
[21:57] <hassen> Cheryl_c, then restart
[21:58] <lilVaratep> is it better to go with a LTS version of ubuntu or the most recent version?
[21:58] <lilVaratep> for personal use and development
[21:59] <tgm4883> lilVaratep, for development, latest/dev (depending on what you are developing on)
[21:59] <hassen> Cheryl_c, after restarting, try win7,if you can't boot to ubuntu while you can with win7, reinstall ubuntu in another partition as usual,and you'll be fine with the GRUB
[21:59] <tgm4883> lilVaratep, usually I run ubuntu+1 in a VM when it's released, and progressively install it on more machines as time goes on
[22:00] <TJ-> korylprince: Have you mirrored the switch ports and captured traffic on the link to see what happens immediately before it drops?
[22:01] <korylprince> TJ-: hadn't thought of that. Will try that if firmware update is unsuccessful.
[22:02] <Cheryl_c> hassen: output says "no such file or directory"
[22:03] <hassen> Cheryl_c, check what have you typed,maybe you issed a letter?
[22:05] <q0> What's wrong with the world ? I tried writing BSD image to pendrive with startup creator, gives me "Failed" error, I try with unetbootin, it works but after boot it says not enough memory to load kernel ???
[22:05] <hassen> yep..that's it gentlemen..uninstalling all languages but english solved it
[22:06] <hassen> the thing is when first updating the languages list,I lost connection
[22:06] <q0> are there any alternatives to startup creator other than unetbootin
[22:06] <hassen> so troubles started happening
[22:07] <ZujkisNx> Hi! :) What command i should write if would want to open ping in terminal window on system startup? After startup i want to see that terminal window on my screen.. (:
[22:08] <hassen> q0, linuxpendrive's YUMI and UUI
[22:08] <AgentElman> is there anyway to install vmware 10 on  3.10
[22:09] <OerHeks> q0, dd could do it too, but maybe it is a BSD issue, bad download?
[22:09] <AgentElman> on 13.10
[22:09] <ikonia> AgentElman: there are insructions on the vmware website on how to install
[22:10] <AgentElman> thats not going to help much
[22:10] <ikonia> AgentElman: why ?
[22:10] <AgentElman> looking for a patch
[22:10] <ikonia> AgentElman: that's not what you asked
[22:10] <ikonia> AgentElman: you asked is there a way to install it - yes, follow the vmware instructions
[22:11] <ikonia> AgentElman: if you need/want something else, please clarify
[22:11] <AgentElman> its installed the module wont update correctly
[22:11] <ikonia> won't update ?
[22:11] <ikonia> AgentElman: please try to be clear about the problem you want help with
[22:12] <q0> dd all the way
[22:12] <q0> i can watch the world burn with dd
[22:12] <ikonia> q0: who are you talking to ?
[22:12] <q0> thanks for the tip, it helped :)
[22:12] <q0> my selves.
[22:15] <SteveBell> hi all. I have file system chaos. any idea how to clone a HFS+ drive to a ext4 drive?
[22:16] <ikonia> SteveBell: mount the hfs disk, mount the ext4 disk, copy the files
[22:18] <SteveBell> ikonia: thing is if I mount the hfs disk only the first of two partitions does show under ubuntu
[22:18] <ikonia> SteveBell: you mount partitions manually - each one, not the disk
[22:19] <SteveBell> ah ok. didn't know.
[22:19] <derik> how i see how much memory is free?
[22:19] <ikonia> derik: free -m
[22:19] <derik> whant means -/+ buffers/cache:
[22:20] <ikonia> file system cache basically
[22:20] <k1l> derik: linuxatemyram.org
[22:20] <ikonia> man free for more info
[22:20] <SteveBell> ikonia: so journaling has to be disabled? http://superuser.com/questions/84446/how-to-mount-a-hfs-partition-in-ubuntu-as-read-write
[22:20] <ikonia> SteveBell: basically it's "no write support, but read should be fine"
[22:20] <derik> ikonia this is from ram or is separatly
[22:20] <k1l> oh, its linuxatemyram.com actually.
[22:20] <ikonia> derik: from ram
[22:24] <SteveBell> ikonia that's great news. I only need read from that hfs+ drive
[22:25] <SteveBell> is there a GUI option to mount partitions or do I have to use the terminal?
[22:25] <ikonia> SteveBell: you'll find it easier for what you are doing to use the terminal
[22:28] <pulsar78> what a good way to backup/restore because i used dd and the restore is taking forever *sigh*
[22:28] <andyfied> rsync is quicker than dd
[22:28] <ikonia> pulsar78: just wait
[22:28] <raub> pulsar78: it depends on what you are trying to backup
[22:29] <ikonia> rsync is only good for data, not partition layout
[22:29] <ikonia> it depends on your needs
[22:29] <raub> ikonia: exactly
[22:29] <SteveBell> hfsprogs is installed. but how do I know which /dev/sdx# and mountpoint to enter?
[22:29] <Rallias> Is it possible to set some IP address's in my dhcp server as windows only and some as linux only?
[22:29] <ikonia> Rallias: you can map ip to mac
[22:29] <raub> Rallias: assign IPs based on MACs perhaps?
[22:30] <ikonia> Rallias: you can't really do os detection very easy
[22:30] <Rallias> raub, ikonia, The problem is, some computers run both windows and linux with dual-boot...
[22:30] <pulsar78> complete disk restore
[22:31] <ikonia> Rallias: why do you need different ip's depending on OS ?
[22:31] <ikonia> Rallias: why not just let dhcp manage the subnet
[22:31] <raub> Rallias: then look at udp traffic for the telltale for each OS and go from there
[22:31] <pulsar78> the problem is: the gzip is just 4gb, the dd inside is 120gb
[22:31] <Rallias> ikonia, Because linux enables the use of straight-up ipsec, while windows makes it difficult to use ipsec without l2tp.
[22:32] <ikonia> Rallias: I don't see what that has to do with dhcp ?
[22:32] <ikonia> Rallias: seperate vlans would fix that
[22:32] <raub> pulsar78: dd boot partition; rsync rest
[22:32] <Rallias> ikonia, iptables filtering.
[22:32] <ikonia> Rallias: so ?
[22:32] <ikonia> Rallias: apologies, I'm not seeing a problem
[22:33] <pulsar78> raub: k, will look into that, tnx
[22:33] <Rallias> ikonia, I'm trying to encrypt my wireless with a protocol ontop of WPA2 to allow for increased security, and blocking non-enciphered traffic.
[22:34] <ikonia> Rallias: ok, so again I'm still not seeing a problem
[22:34] <SteveBell> ikonia do you know how to find out the dev/sbd number for a hfs partition and the mountpoint?
[22:34] <ikonia> SteveBell: you can mount them where ever you want
[22:35] <raub> SteveBell: fdisk? /proc/mount?
[22:35] <SteveBell> ikonia: so sth like sudo mount -t hfsplus -o force,ro /dev/sdb2 /media/mntpoint
[22:35] <SteveBell> ?
[22:35] <ikonia> SteveBell: looks good
[22:37] <SteveBell> ikonia: but it says media/mntpoint does not exist
[22:37] <ikonia> SteveBell: then make it
[22:40] <SteveBell> not sure how that would work. create a mountpoint.
[22:41] <SteveBell> like sudo mkdir /mnt/external
[22:42] <wassup> hi
[22:42] <Anden> SteveBell: yeah, for starters you'll need an empty directory to mount against
[22:42] <Anden> hi
[22:43] <wassup> is ubuntu using chromium or chrome?
[22:43] <wassup> or, at least, which is found by default in the repos?
[22:43] <rypervenche> wassup: Chromium.
[22:43] <k1l> wassup: standard is firefox. but chromium is in the repos.
[22:43] <SteveBell> ok it seems I've created a mountpoint with sudo mkdir /media/mntpoint
[22:43] <wassup> hm
[22:43] <Anden> good
[22:43] <SteveBell> so then I tired sudo mount -t hfsplus -o force,ro /dev/sdb2 /media/mntpoint
[22:43] <wassup> thanks, guys
[22:44] <wassup> chromium apparently has some flickering problems for me atm, while chrome works perfectly fine, yet I'm not really fond of moving to a closed version
[22:44] <SteveBell> but it says either /dev/sdb2/ is already mounted or /media/mntpoint is in use. then it says mtab says /dev/sdb2 is already mounted with one of the ext drives
[22:45] <k1l> SteveBell: what does "mount" give you?
[22:45] <k1l> put it into a pastebin
[22:45] <Anden> yeah or: mount | grep sdb2
[22:45] <Sach> Using Ubuntu 12.04. Why can't I see all the wireless connections available to me?
[22:46] <koell> how can i hide folders?
[22:46] <Beldar> Sach, Any wifi witches on the computer?
[22:46] <k1l> koell: put a "." in front of the name
[22:46] <Anden> Sach: it limits the list but there is an entry that shows the rest of it.
[22:46] <Beldar> switches*
[22:47] <Mike3620> I keep running chmod 0666 /dev/null but it keeps on dropping the permissions for everyone but the owner eventually how do I fix this.
[22:47] <Anden> Sach: it says "more networks" or something i think
[22:47] <koell> k1l: i know this method. i need one without the dot in front of :)
[22:47] <SteveBell> mount http://pastebin.com/7zCUrKkR Anden K1|
[22:47] <Sach> Beldar: Yes, it's turned on, which is why I can see a few networks, but not all.
[22:47] <SteveBell> so sbd2 is indeed already used by one of the ext partitions
[22:47] <pulsar78> yeeee., it only took 3097 seconds
[22:47] <raub> koell: hiding dir or its contents?
[22:47] <Mike3620> So I constantly have to re do sudo chmod /dev/null
[22:47] <Mike3620> Or users get a permission denied error
[22:48] <k1l> SteveBell: sdb2 is already mounted in /media/suppenkasper/Backup and is ext4
[22:48] <Mike3620> ^0666
[22:48] <SteveBell> yep
[22:48] <Beldar> Sach, hmm available to you, not sure what that means exactly, can you link and sign in at all?
[22:48] <SteveBell> k1l: so question is what is the sdb name for the hfs drive?
[22:48] <k1l> SteveBell: so no wonder it says its already mounted
[22:48] <koell> ok solved. :)
[22:49] <k1l> SteveBell: "sudo fdisk -l"
[22:49] <Beldar> Sach, I general ubuntu is a bit weak on signal pickup might be the problem.
[22:49] <Anden> SteveBell: do you understand how linux names your partitions? i.e. sda1, sdb1
[22:50] <Sach> Beldar: my home wireless is the one I want to connect to wirelessly.  I can see it on on laptop, but not this current one.
[22:50] <SteveBell> Anden: not really but it seems sda sdb etc are separate drives while the numbers are the partitions?
[22:50] <derik> when i login in console i recive: Memory usage: 32% but after that when i type free -m i get: Mem: Total:490  used: 373 and free:117   373 isn`t 32% from 490. What is wrong ?
[22:50] <Anden> SteveBell: exactly
[22:51] <SteveBell> so I see sda1,2 and 5 and that then must be the hfs drive
[22:51] <SteveBell> cool. thanks guys. I'm noting all those commands down so I have that available the next time I need that
[22:51] <Anden> hfs is a file system which applies to one of the partitions, of course all the partitions could have a file system
[22:51] <Beldar> Sach, Is the wifi working can you link to ant wifi signal?
[22:51] <Beldar> any*
[22:52] <korylprince> derik: free shows cached memory as used. the last number you see is the cached memory
[22:52] <Anden> Sach: but you see other wifis, not just yours? or none?
[22:52] <Sach> Beldar: yes, the wifi is working.  I can see my neighbor's wifi but not mine.
[22:52] <derik> thanks korylprince
[22:52] <SteveBell> Anden do those names change? or will sda1 be sda1 if I re-connect that drive in 6 months?
[22:53] <korylprince> derik: cached memory can be freed quickly if it is needed, so a good idea of how much free memory you have is to take the "free" memory and subtract the "cached" memory
[22:53] <Beldar> Sach, Right, however do you know that you can sign into a wifi network, just knocking out variables here.
[22:53] <k1l> SteveBell: that numbers are written into the partition table. they stay the same until something really breaks
[22:53] <Anden> SteveBell: it may change. depends on what order the drives are connected in
[22:54] <Sach> Beldar: yes, I am certain.
[22:54] <Anden> SteveBell: you have UUIDs that will always stay the same though
[22:54] <Beldar> Sach, Lets identify the wifi card as well if you run lspci in the terminal what is the hardware?
[22:54] <korylprince> SteveBell: The partition number will always be the same, but the drive letter may change. i.e. sda3 might be sdc3
[22:54] <SteveBell> ok. understood. Anden you want all that output?
[22:55] <Beldar> Sach, Cool I assume certain means that in this install you have accessed a wifi network.
[22:55] <Anden> Sach: is your wifi access point by any chance 5GHz but your machine only supporting 2.4GHz?
[22:55] <Sach> Beldar: yes, for over 8 months or so
[22:55] <Anden> SteveBell: what output?
[22:55] <Sach> Beldar: http://pastebin.com/0JTEuwaX
[22:56] <SteveBell> sorry confused posts. ignore pls.
[22:56] <Anden> ok
[22:56] <SteveBell> so tried again with correct drive name and it still says mountpoint in use
[22:57] <SteveBell> so can I just sudo mkdir /media/mntpoint2 ?
[22:57] <Beldar> Sach, Cool, not sure myself why you would not see the home network, I see a broadcom card, have you seen the broadcom wiki just for a reference is all.
[22:57] <Anden> Sach: have you tried restarting your access point? sometimes mine glitches out and does not appear to all my devices perfectly. always gets fixed by a restart lol
[22:58] <Sach> Anden: how do I restart the access point?
[22:58] <Sach> Beldar: I'll have a look
[22:58] <Anden> pull its power cord and put it back in Sach
[22:58] <SteveBell> or sudo mkdir /media/external ? any name should do?
[22:59] <Anden> SteveBell: any name would work but there is a chance your drive was autmaitcally mounted and you dont need to do it manually
[22:59] <Anden> SteveBell: i wasnt in this from the start so i dunno though
[22:59] <SteveBell> Anden if that's the case I don't see it
[22:59] <SteveBell> my issue is mounting a hfs+ partition to read from
[23:00] <Anden> SteveBell: but you found the right sd name didnt you. what was it?
[23:00] <SteveBell> can I change the terminal to english or have everything I copy from it be english?
[23:00] <SteveBell> sda1
[23:01] <SteveBell> if I'm not mistaken but since that was the biggest partition and that is what I'm looking for that should be correct
[23:01] <highrise2357> Hello. I have a question regarding what to do after accidentally deleting /usr/lib/share/applications/
[23:01] <Anden> you sure? sda1 ought to be a system drive
[23:01] <Anden> but it could be of course
[23:02] <zoey666> Hi.  Is it possible to install Ubuntu in an existing luks encrypted partition without having to erase it?
[23:03] <SteveBell> ok you are right. so it is sdb1 but oddly I see only one partition ofr that GPT system. but it is hfs+ (osx journaled) so maybe that's an issue? (anden)
[23:04] <t3kst> hello
[23:05] <Anden> SteveBell: according to the pastebin you linked before i can see 3 partitions and they are all ext4
[23:05] <k1l> SteveBell: fdisk cant read gpt disks
[23:05] <highrise2357> Am I correct in saying that I didn't actually damage the applications themselves, just the desktop icons?
[23:05] <Anden> SteveBell: sda1 sdb1 and sdb2 are ext4 on your system so it's none of them
[23:05] <SteveBell> Anden:  http://pastebin.com/VyePmJdz
[23:06] <k1l> SteveBell: stop mounting blindly partitions
[23:06] <SteveBell> Anden that is then the other external drive. that is the ext4 drive is where I want to write to while I need to read from that hfs+ partition
[23:06] <osbin> good evening locking for tut how make ready fully for work wine
[23:06] <k1l> SteveBell: first check which partition you actually want to mount
[23:07] <k1l> osbin: that depends on the program and wine. best is to ask the wine specialists:
[23:07] <k1l> !wine | osbin
[23:07] <SteveBell> ok sda then is the internal drive sdb the ext4 external and I'm still looking for the hfs drive which won't show up since fdisk does not know hfs.
[23:07] <highrise2357> Is there a way I can open a terminal in the gui from the login screen?
[23:08] <Anden> SteveBell: look, first you need to understand that there is no such thing as an ext4 or hfs drive. if you have only one partition on a drive technically you could say that. but it really applies to the file systems. not the drive
[23:08] <k1l> !pastebin | SteveBell  please put the sudo fdisk -l output there
[23:08] <SteveBell> so how to check for the hfs+ partition name?
[23:09] <zoey666> Hi.  Is it possible to install Ubuntu in an existing luks encrypted partition without having to erase it?
[23:10] <Anden> SteveBell: if we can get sudo fdisk -l output we'll help you get that name
[23:11] <highrise2357> Is there a way to open a terminal in the gui without an icon?
[23:11] <highrise2357> as all of my icons are gone
[23:11] <highrise2357> because I accidentally deleted /usr/lib/applications
[23:11] <zoey666> Hi.  Is it possible to install Ubuntu in an existing luks encrypted partition without having to erase it?
[23:11] <Anden> highrise2357: ctrl + alt + t
[23:11] <highrise2357> thank you
[23:12] <SteveBell> ok I think I understand. not drive but file system is what I'm talking about if talking about a drive with two ext4 partitions e.g. here's the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/8GdrGgjj
[23:12] <Anden> highrise2357: also ctrl + alt + f1 should always work if ctrl + alt + t does not
[23:14] <k1l> SteveBell: use gdisk instead of fdisk for the gpt disk. (like sudo gdisk -l)
[23:15] <highrise3357> okay, back from gui this time
[23:16] <SteveBell> sudo gdisk -l says command not found k1l
[23:16] <k1l> then install gdisk
[23:16] <Anden> SteveBell: maybe you need to install it? sudo apt-get install gdisk
[23:17] <KI7MT> I'ts in the standard repos, but why is it any better than fdisk?
[23:17] <k1l> KI7MT: fdisk cant handle gpt tables
[23:17] <Anden> it works with GPT and not just MBR
[23:17] <KI7MT> Ok.
[23:18] <SteveBell> Anden true and done. http://pastebin.com/kFZiQQEi
[23:18] <Fredx> I need to upgrade plex server
[23:18] <Fredx> is this correct command
[23:18] <Fredx> sudo dpkg --update-avail plexmediaserver_0.9.8.16.278-ac16513_amd64.deb
[23:19] <k1l> SteveBell: put a "/dev/sdb" afterwards
[23:21] <SteveBell> http://pastebin.com/LTziFUcm k1l but with 3TB that is the ext4 file system no?
[23:22] <highrise3357> it appears apt isn't detecting the missing /applications folder
[23:24] <k1l> SteveBell: is this the 3tb drive? are there 2 partitions on it? one 2tb and one 0,7tb?
[23:24] <SteveBell> yep
[23:24] <SteveBell> but that appears already fine read and writeable since ext4
[23:25] <k1l> what drive is this? are you sure its hfs? (the apple file system?)
[23:25] <Anden> SteveBell: can you do: ls /dev/sd*
[23:26] <SteveBell> "/dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda5  /dev/sdb  /dev/sdb1  /dev/sdb2"
[23:27] <Anden> SteveBell: strange. but you are sure your partition is really hfs? formatted with a mac?
[23:28] <glicks> howdy
[23:29] <glicks> hey quick question, when i run python in the shell, it runs python 2.7.  Is there anyway to have the defualt be python3.3 when i run python
[23:29] <glicks> ?
[23:29] <glicks> it looks like python launches python 2.7 and python3 launches python3
[23:30] <SteveBell> hehe yes. Well I'm sure that drive is connected and spinning. I also know that I clone my internal os x partition to that drive and that I formatted in os x as os x journaled which is HFS+ if I'm not mistaken? Anden
[23:31] <tgunr> not sure if this is a perl or ubuntu question but, can I install an older perl (5.8.5) onto a 12.04 server install to run an older perl application?
[23:31] <korylprince> glicks: replace /usr/bin/python with a symbolic link to the python3.3 executable. I don't imagine it's a good idea though. Lot's of system utilities depend on the fact that python is python2
[23:31] <Anden> SteveBell: yeah. i think the partition you are looking for is sda5
[23:32] <Anden> SteveBell: try sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda
[23:33] <k1l> the old sda paste is gone. but i dont see a hfs partition so far. at least not on sdb
[23:33] <Anden> well thats why i think it's on sda
[23:33] <KI7MT> glicks, probably not the best choice to make pt3 the default, rather, just call py3 in the shebang /usr/bin/env python3 or there abouts.
[23:34] <Anden> sda1 sdb1 and sdb2 are all mounted and ext4 according to the old paste k1l
[23:34] <k1l> i think that maybe the cloning was not successfull
[23:34] <Anden> i think it's sda2 or 5
[23:34] <SteveBell> Anden k1l http://pastebin.com/sBR8yufW
[23:35] <k1l> no hfs on sda, too
[23:36] <SteveBell> ah so maybe the issue is that CArbon copy cloner creates a bootable section on that drive?
[23:36] <k1l> so i think we are hunting a ghost here
[23:36] <Anden> oh yeah... sda5 is his swap isnt it. sorry
[23:36] <SteveBell> http://www.bombich.com/software/docs/CCC/en.lproj/troubleshooting/what-makes-a-volume-bootable.html
[23:36] <highrise3357> Do I need to reinstall all of my packages?
[23:36] <highrise3357> or is there a simpler method
[23:36] <SteveBell> so maybe that boot section makes the drive not findable for gdisk?
[23:37] <Anden> SteveBell: i'm suspecting the partition may not be there at all
[23:38] <Anden> SteveBell: anyway i gotta go eat. hope you sort it out. good luck
[23:38] <SteveBell> Anden: to move this forward does it help if I connect taht drive and do sth similar under OS X? so at least we get some info about that drive?
[23:39] <Beldar> SteveBell, You might consider running the boot script it will give a you a detailed picture of what is there including any gpt remnants or gpt stuff as well as msdos.
[23:39] <SteveBell> ok enjoy your mean!
[23:40] <SteveBell> ok, I'll ask on the CCC support site if they had a similar case and how to best deal with that situation. alternatively I would have to buy extFS to make ext drives readable under os x for 40$.
[23:41] <KI7MT> Dont ya just love Mac ..
[23:42] <nail> buona sera
[23:42] <nail> !lista
[23:42] <nail> !alias
[23:43] <SteveBell> KI7MT: well the issue is on both sides. it's just that most files systems are incompatible. hfs is as bad on ubuntu as ext is on OS X.
[23:44] <bekks> SteveBell: Do you have two computers?
[23:44] <KI7MT> Indeed, they all have their share issues. At least I dont have to shell our $$ for the Ubuntu ones :-)
[23:45] <SteveBell> bekks: yes. OSX is my main working system. an old netbook is where  I put on ubuntu and now it happily servers as my media center
[23:45] <bekks> SteveBell: Well, then you can use network shares to access files.
[23:45] <SteveBell> bekks:  I setup samba and that works for transferring files
[23:46] <bekks> SteveBell: then you dont have to buy anything ;)
[23:47] <KI7MT> Could also use sshfs
[23:50] <KI7MT> Could be kinda tricky to setup if the drives are all on same machine though.
[23:52] <bekks> KI7MT: thats why you have two computers - one for the hfs drives, obe for the ext drives :)
[23:53] <m1chael> i'm dealing with a very frustrating issue... when i plug in a 1tb external USB to my laptop running xubuntu 13.10, the desktop freezes (but everything else works, apps, browsing web, etc..)... and the desktop unfreezes when i unmount and disconnect the usb drive..... (i can browse the data just fine on the drive even when the desktop is frozen)
[23:54] <magnulu> hello folks - having a hard time finding answers on the net, so I turn here
[23:54] <KI7MT> If it's 2 different boxes, MacFUSE works well from what Iv'e read.
[23:55] <magnulu> I have an i3 with hd4400 graphics, and I run xubuntu 13.10 - how can I make sure I am running the correct drivers? intels drivers download page does not state that they support 13.10
[23:55] <SteveBell> k1l: bekks and all thanks for the help. off to bed here...
[23:55] <SteveBell> KI7MT:  yes I might check that out. it seems to work but not trivial in the setup. needs some extra tweaking from what I read.
[23:56] <KI7MT> SteveBell, chek this when you have a moment: https://library.linode.com/networking/ssh-filesystems#sph_install-prerequisite-packages
[23:56] <derik> you recomand to activate swap on a 512 mb vps ?
[23:57] <bekks> derik: of course.
[23:57] <SteveBell> KI7MT: bookmarked. good start for tomorrow when I'M more awake :)