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Monkeytoeis there a terminal command to view the current search domain settings?01:08
Frankhi everyone.  I'm having a problem with Xubuntu 13.10, login screen keeps looping01:12
Frankhi everyone01:59
Frankquestion when i start my computer it goes to grub loader screen and i have to manually select "Ubuntu" to load my OS, I want it to load automatically without me doing anything02:00
Frankanyone know how to do this02:00
puffEvening.  I recently upgraded my laptop to ubuntu 13.10, then installed bumblebee.  If I log in under Unity I see that bumblebee is running, but under xubuntu, no bumblebee (dmesg | fgrep -i switch).02:05
puffHow do I get bumblebee to run?02:05
Unit193Frank: diff -u /usr/share/grub/default/grub /etc/default/grub  what's different?02:06
Unit193puff: Oh, there's a session and startup thing you should look at.02:08
Unit193Settings manager >02:08
puffUnit193: Can you expand on that a bit?  I know about Settings Manager.02:12
Unit193"Session and Startup" is in the Settings Manager, and that's likely where you'll find Bumblebee.02:13
Unit193Oh, that's what that is, right...02:14
Unit193Did you check /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?02:14
puffUnit193: I'll check there now...02:32
puffUnit193: No,no sign of it in there either.02:33
FrankUnit193 no the files are slightly different03:04
Unit193Mhmm, expected.03:05
Franktimeout=10 in usr/share/grub/default/grub03:06
Franktimeout="-1" in etc/default/grub03:06
Unit193Well there you go then.03:07
Frankwhat do i need to do to get it to boot automatically without having to select "Ubuntu" in grub loader03:07
Franksorry I'm new to Xubuntu03:08
Unit193Well, if that's the only difference: sudo cp /usr/share/grub/default/grub /etc/default/grub && sudo update-grub03:08
Frankand that will make both files read timeout=10   ??03:10
Unit193It will copy /usr/share/grub/default/grub to /etc/default/grub03:11
Franki know.03:12
Frankalso one file says GRUB_DEFAULT="Ubuntu" and the other says GRUB_DEFAULT=003:15
Frankalso #GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT="0"03:15
Frankand the other is GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=003:15
Frankso one is commented out and the other isn't03:16
Frankhow come the files are in two different directories?03:17
Frankwhich one is loaded at boot time?03:18
Unit193/usr/share/grub/default/grub is system default, /etc/default/grub is what's used and someone/you must have edited it as well.03:19
ObrienDavemay I suggest grub-customizer?03:20
Franki did edit the etc/default/grub, but i wasn't aware of the other one03:20
Frankhi ObrienDave, i have that.   it didn't work03:20
ObrienDavek03:20
Frankthanks anyway ObrienDave.  i followed an online tutorial using grub-customizer.  but like i said didn't work03:22
Frankso Unit193, if i understand you correctly both instances of the file must be the same in order for grub to work properly?03:23
ObrienDavewhat's the value of GRUB_TIMEOUT03:23
Unit193No, not at all.03:23
FrankObrien one file says 10 the other says -103:23
Franki changed it to -1 to get it to boot Ubuntu auto without having to press enter03:24
ObrienDave-1 will wait forever. set it to 003:24
Frankwhich one should i set to 003:24
ObrienDavethe -103:25
Unit1930 = wait forever, set to 1 or something.03:25
Frankactually even set at 10 it doesn't load ever03:26
Frankit just waits forever for you to select "Ubuntu"03:26
ObrienDavebecause of the -103:26
Frankit always did that even when it was set to 1003:27
Frankwhich file should i adjust /etc/default/grub or /usr/share/grub/default/grub ??03:28
Unit193Never edit /usr/share/grub/default/grub03:32
FrankUnit193 okay i never have, i've only ever edited /etc/default/grub03:33
Frankhere is what /etc/default/grub looks like:03:35
FrankGRUB_DEFAULT="Ubuntu"03:35
FrankGRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT="0"03:35
FrankGRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET="true"03:35
FrankGRUB_TIMEOUT="1"03:36
FrankGRUB_DISTRIBUTOR="`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian`"03:36
FrankGRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"03:36
Unit193!pastebin03:36
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.03:36
Frankic sorry03:37
Frankhere it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/6592364/03:37
ObrienDavehttp://members.iinet.net/~herman546/p20/GRUB2%20Configuration%20File%20Commands.html#GRUB_TIMEOUT03:37
FrankObrienDAve....excellent link03:39
Frankthanks ObrienDAve that link helped alot and i got it working03:52
Frankfinally!!03:53
ObrienDavecool03:54
Frankyeah thanks again. I bookmarked that page.03:55
burnerso how do I get magnet links to associate?  we need to file a xfce bug right since xdg-session doesn't handle magnets?04:58
RipresaTecni do believe thats handled by the browser05:03
RipresaTecnas i had to set firefox to open transmission05:04
phenomanyone have luck streaming music to bluetooth speakers on 12.04?05:05
burnerRipresaTecn: that works if you download .torrent files, but not for magnet links afaik05:06
burnerphenom: like all your music?  try upgrading?  I know i had it working int he last year05:07
burnerer... like all your audio from yoru computer that is?05:07
phenomyes05:07
burneryeah, i'm sure you can set the output device to a bluetooth output.  try this?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothAudio05:08
burnerooh... better still.  https://launchpad.net/stream2ip05:11
RipresaTecnno firefox can open magnet links burner05:14
burneroh... guess it's because i use chromium and it relies on xdg-open05:16
burnerer... exo-open even05:16
RipresaTecnoh05:16
burnerlooks like i found the answer by editing xdg-open to add an exception for magnets to be handled explicitly, but that seems dirty05:18
RipresaTecnas i have no chrome xp i did some quick looking and found http://askubuntu.com/questions/108925/how-to-tell-chrome-what-to-do-with-a-magnet-link05:19
burnerRipresaTecn: thanks... i'm using that now.  hope it doesn't bite me later.  I'm sure I'll forget i did this and it'll break something someday... but here's to living in the moment!05:21
burner:)05:21
RipresaTecnlol05:22
MaximBhello, just tried to install xubntu, after the installation the mice won't move on a LAPTOP, not the built in nor the attached usb08:24
MaximBand it moved on the installation08:24
MaximBmajor bug discovered on xubuntu install... when you create a new partition table and create a partition (/boot for example), if you click "format" the installer will crush09:30
ObrienDavewhat version?09:42
MaximBlatest09:43
MaximB13.1009:43
ObrienDavehmm, no problems here. I have installed it to VBox to check my VM settings09:44
MaximBstrange, I got the iso from here: http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/09:44
MaximBvia torrent09:44
elfyMaximB: didn't see that while I Was running it in -dev - maybe run gparted on the live session first - then choose something else to just set the mounts09:44
well_laid_lawndid you check the iso ?09:44
well_laid_lawn!md509:45
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows09:45
elfyif it is a bug - it's a bug with ubiquity though09:45
MaximByes09:45
MaximBthat's what it said09:45
MaximBeven send a bug report09:45
MaximBubiquity09:45
xubuntu594Hello09:45
MaximBmaybe if any devs here, you could look at the bug report I autosubmitted09:46
xubuntu594Im trying to install xubuntu via a USB stick its installed but the screen is black when i reboot my pc anybody had a si;ilar problem?09:48
elfyI'm as far from a dev as the other end of the universe ;)09:48
MaximBbut you seems to know stuff09:48
elfymaybe so - but that I don't do :)09:49
xubuntu594anybody has a solution or an idea for ;y proble?09:50
elfy!patience xubuntu59409:50
elfy!patience | xubuntu59409:50
ubottuxubuntu594: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/09:50
elfyxubuntu594: is this with the live dvd/usb or did you install ok?09:51
xubuntu594`the live xubuntu works fine09:52
xubuntu594Im using unetbootin09:52
elfyMaximB: as far as a ubiquity bug goes - nothing we can do in here. To get around your issue I'd do as I suggested - run gparted and then run the installer with the partitions already set up09:52
ObrienDave!nomodeset | xubuntu59409:53
ubottuxubuntu594: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter09:53
elfyxubuntu594: reboot the usb - when you see the screen with the kbd/man - any key, then enter language - then F6 - then choose nomodeset then go from there09:53
xubuntu594ok ill try thqt thanks09:54
MaximBok, so I installed xubuntu but my mice won't work, not the laptop internal, not the stick, not even attached usb mice ... why? I've been hearing about problematic hardware but this dell latitude e5430 model is certified on ubuntu.  and for some reason the 1st install of ubuntu actually didn't have an issue with the mice on that laptop10:09
ObrienDaveBIOS setting?10:16
MaximBit worked on live cd10:19
ObrienDavedid you try unplugging USB mouse? I have to do that a lot10:29
MaximBsure10:33
ObrienDavecheck this out: http://windowssecrets.com/forums/showthread.php/157789-SOLVED!-Ubuntu-13-10-keybored-and-mouse-stops-working-after-some-time!10:50
MaximBthat bug happens only if I do update on installation10:55
MaximBlets see how it does update after install10:55
ObrienDavek11:00
MaximBObrienDave: after regular install and updates in that order, all seems to work fine12:29
MaximBObrienDave: also it's very quite here vs #ubuntu ;)12:29
ObrienDavewell, that's a good thing :)12:29
MaximByeah12:29
ObrienDavewe like it quiet ;P12:29
MaximBcouldn't ever get support from #ubuntu12:30
MaximBloadest chat at freenodes ;)12:30
ObrienDaveit's all the same family12:30
MaximByeah, still12:30
MaximBI installed ubuntu and many kubuntu and xubuntu packages and desktop a few days ago, and today it got broken badly, so I reinstalled with xubuntu and installed sone kde packages (must have konsole and ktorrent)12:31
ObrienDavei go to sessions & startup, and have gnome and kde services turned on12:32
MaximBone thing that buggs me, kde and ubuntu look prettier than xfce :(12:34
ObrienDavethat's ok with me, i'm an old, simple kinda guy. i want things to work LOL12:35
ObrienDaveand there are several themes available to 'spruce' up the appearance. i like simple12:37
MaximBthere is also a wallpaper issue when I attach the laptop to biggest screen... it looks...unnatural (not streched, but...buggy)12:38
ObrienDavescreenshot?12:40
MaximBwhat's the default key for taking screenshots after install? ;)12:42
ObrienDaveprtsc, i think12:42
MaximBwhat is it?12:42
ObrienDavePrt Sc12:42
MaximBo..12:42
ObrienDavebrb12:43
ObrienDavegotta wake up the wife12:43
cfhowlettTMI !12:50
ObrienDavelol pffffffft! ;P12:52
knomeoi, this ain't offtopic12:53
Jedeehello :)12:54
Jedeecan someone tell me if the microsoft natural ergonomic 4000 keyboard works with all the smartkeys?12:55
Jedeei'm thinking to purchase this board so12:55
cfhowlettJedee, greetings12:55
Jedeehi !12:55
Jedeei was hoping to get an answer if xubuntu recognizes the smartkeys and so on12:56
MaximBJedee: no, Linux identifies MS products and makes them unusable ... forever....12:57
Jedeehaha12:57
Jedeeok12:57
MaximB:D12:57
Jedeewhat about logitech then LOL12:57
MaximBbut I can't see why not12:57
MaximBlogitec rules12:57
Jedeemy laptop has some Fn keys so12:58
Jedeegot used to that12:58
MaximBmine too..never touched them12:58
MaximBlol, they actually work12:59
Jedeethe board is like 50 dollars so if it doesnt work i'm would be pretty pissed not having it working ok12:59
Jedeei'm using the last LTS version by the way12:59
cubJedee, no sure about MS keyboard but I bought a Logitech with volume keys and such which worked out of the box.12:59
MaximBtry the live-dvd12:59
Jedeecub: thanks !12:59
Jedeedo you know which one ?13:00
JedeeMaximB: i'm a USB stick guy and my dvd drive is only used to get cd's into my banshee library13:00
MaximByou can make a live-usb-stick too13:01
Jedeei know13:01
Jedee:)13:01
cubJedee, http://www.logitech.com/sv-se/product/keyboard-k360?crid=26 I get forced on to their Swedish site, but you can see the keyboard there. Still no guarantee that another keyboard will work though. :)13:01
JedeeTHanks cub13:02
koegshttp://askubuntu.com/questions/33038/how-to-get-microsoft-natural-ergonomic-keyboard-4000s-zoom-slider-and-other-bu13:02
koegshe says, multimedia keys are ok13:03
Jedeeand the rocker for scrolling isnt as far i can see13:03
koegssolution is shown13:04
Jedeei see :)13:04
Jedeethanks everyone !13:04
ObrienDavehttp://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/keyboard-k360?crid=2613:04
Jedeehave a nice day !13:04
koegswell some people do not know how to use google :D13:05
ObrienDavelmgtfy ;P13:05
koegswas the first hit with "microsoft natural ergonomic keyboard 4000 ubuntu" :D13:05
Jedeekoegs: i'm not using google13:05
Jedeeso13:05
koegsalmost the same on bing and duckduckgo :>13:07
ObrienDavelmsetfy ;P13:07
ObrienDaveLet Me Search Engine That For You ;P13:08
cfhowlettwww.lmgtfy.com13:17
xubuntu573hello13:25
xubuntu573I have xubuntu on a Toshiba c650 , I cannot control the sound volume13:26
cubxubuntu573, do you mean from the icon in the upper right on the screen?13:27
xubuntu573yes, and it is dark grey13:29
cfhowlettxubuntu573, greetings13:29
cubxubuntu573, it's a known bug, check out http://askubuntu.com/questions/360806/volume-indicator-issue-after-xubuntu-13-10-upgrade13:29
xubuntu573OK , i've changed that file , and when I was restarting xfce I had one error , it said : "failed to restart the panel"13:32
ObrienDavecfhowlett, rofl ;P13:51
cfhowlettObrienDave, I rarely use lmgtfy ... but sometimes it's the only way to make a point13:57
ObrienDavethat was funny. never seen that before :)13:58
cfhowlettObrienDave, oh, I thought you knew it was a thing!13:59
ObrienDavecfhowlett, never said i knew EVERYthing ;P14:00
uflaighello, I am currently having an issue, it says no space on device all the tie no matter what I delete, what do I do?15:11
elfydelete - or move to trash and not empty it?15:12
uflaigelfy: tash is emptied15:12
uflaigright now I am only having access to console15:13
elfydf -h | pastebinit15:13
elfylet us have the url15:13
uflaigow, who knew pastebinit exists, quite handy15:14
uflaigpaste.ubuntu.com/659470815:14
elfynice ...15:15
elfysudo apt-get clean15:15
elfyhope that'll get you enough space to move around15:16
uflaignope, still on 100%15:16
uflaigI used a command before, tried to restore some files15:16
uflaigforemost15:17
elfyuflaig: is this a default setup? you've not changed the default reserved space in the past?15:18
uflaiglike I said before this happened after I tried to restore some files with foremost15:19
ObrienDavedang, never seen a partition quite that full15:20
elfyuflaig: so that finished trying to do what it was doing - or errored out15:20
elfyObrienDave: I have - lots of times ...15:21
elfyuflaig if it's not doing anything now ytou can reduce the amount of reserved space - should allow you to work with it, remove what foremost has done, then set it back15:21
elfyor you could boot a live usb or something and then deal with it there15:22
elfypartitions have 5% reserved by default - you can use tune2fs to change that15:24
elfyBUT I would set it back as soon as you can after you've dealt with the full drive15:24
elfyand they've gone15:25
uflaighi it's me again, I was able to empty the trash via comand line, for some reason that didn't worked on xfce, thanks and bye!15:45
ObrienDavek thx bi15:56
ObrienDavelol15:56
xubuntu784hi17:03
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martin___Hi all, I am having an issue with the display going blank after login. Using nomodeset fixes that issue but then does not allow me to use the full screen resolution. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks.17:15
xubuntu206hello  I'm new to xubuntu (see same total beginner), but I really do appreciate the work on this OS I have a concern I'm on 12.10 and can not pass on version 13.10 how?? thank you for your help17:16
xubuntu442hello  I'm new to xubuntu (see same total beginner), but I really do appreciate the work on this OS I have a concern I'm on 12.10 and can not pass on version 13.10 how?? thank you for your help17:34
xubuntu442tell me this update and it does not offer me anything better I have try with 13.10 CD but the boot, ca make me a sort of "3D picture pox" so that with 12.04 lts update to 12.10 do not worry Have you a solution?? because my bios is ok, grahique my card and my memory too - I have try in 32 and 64 bits - ditto I was being ideas - any help will be welcome translated with google translation17:38
zat0ich1question: I'm running xubuntu on a laptop hooked up to an hdmi monitor19:13
zat0ich1My sound keeps defaulting to the hdmi output19:13
xerox_altohello community how do i set up a dualboot with 2 xubuntu distros and LVM with encryption for each? what grub config do i need?19:13
Poisoned_DragonAnd you don't want it to?19:13
zat0ich1even though I've tried to change the default sink for pulseaudio to my computer's analog output19:13
zat0ich1I have a nicer external speaker I'm running through the headphone jack19:14
zat0ich1I've tried editing /etc/pulse/default.pa19:14
zat0ich1but that hasn't worked19:14
zat0ich1also of note is that until I've opened pavucontrol and selected analog output19:15
zat0ich1pacmd list-sinks doesn't list it19:15
Poisoned_DragonDid you try it through pavucontrol?19:15
zat0ich1yeah, I can change it through pavucontrol, but everytime I reboot it reverts to HDMI19:15
Poisoned_DragonIn pavucontrol there is a "set as fallback" button.19:16
Poisoned_Dragonnext to the "Lock Channels Together" button.19:16
zat0ich1Yeah, I've got that selectted for built-in audio analog stereo19:17
zat0ich1and disabled for the HDMI19:17
Poisoned_Dragonhmm....19:17
Poisoned_DragonThat is a head scratcher.19:17
Poisoned_DragonI never use an hdmi display attached to a laptop19:18
zat0ich1Yeah, the monitor is a black friday purchase19:18
zat0ich1so it's pretty new19:18
zat0ich1and I also just switched to xubuntu after using opensuse KDE for a while19:19
Poisoned_DragonDid the feature work on that distro?19:19
Poisoned_DragonAre you using Xubuntu 13.10?19:20
zat0ich1yes and yes19:20
zat0ich1but I did briefly try PCLinuxOS with KDE, which was giving me the same problem (among many others)19:21
Poisoned_DragonOpenSuse might have been using a newer kernel/driver combination.19:21
Poisoned_DragonI just had to hack at and LTS based distro to install the saucy kernel, just to get the intel chipset/gpu to co-operate.19:22
Poisoned_Dragon*and=an19:22
zat0ich1sounds like a pain19:23
zat0ich1I'll probably just keep fiddling with /etc/pulse/default.pa and pavucontrol19:23
Poisoned_DragonYou could consider trying out the test release of Xubuntu 14.04 to see if the new stuff will help with your audio issues.19:23
Poisoned_DragonWorst case, might have to stick with what you know in opensuse.19:23
Poisoned_DragonEver considered xfce on opensuse?19:23
zat0ich1I have not, no19:24
Poisoned_DragonWell, you have plenty of options. go take chances and make mistakes. It's how we learn the fastest.19:24
zat0ich1But really I'm more familiar with debian/ubuntu based distros anyway19:24
zat0ich1This is true19:24
zat0ich1I've come a long way19:24
zat0ich1And I've broken many a system along the journey19:24
Poisoned_DragonThere is an alpha for 14.04, if you want to give that iso a try.19:25
zat0ich1I might do that. But in the past two weeks I've gone through and broken/rejected a few distros19:25
zat0ich1So I'm probably just going to sit on this one for a little while19:26
zat0ich1I've still got a few things I could try19:26
Poisoned_Dragonheh, fair enough.19:26
zat0ich1I just thought I'd ask a second opinion19:26
Poisoned_DragonI'm just glad the new kernel is working on my end.19:26
zat0ich1Thanks for your input Poisoned_Dragon19:26
Poisoned_Dragonno prob19:27
Poisoned_DragonOh, it actually wasn't a pain, btw. the saucy kernel was in the repo.19:27
Poisoned_DragonJust install with the meta package.19:27
zat0ich1I see. Well I'm glad it's working for you. For the moment I'm off to work. Peace out.19:28
Poisoned_Dragondarn... I just found a possible answer too.19:29
Poisoned_Dragongo figure19:30
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xerox_altohello community how do i set up a dualboot with 2 xubuntu distros and LVM with encryption for each? what grub config do i need?19:32
Poisoned_DragonI wish I could help but, I generally avoid dual booting on the same drive.19:36
xerox_altohello are there alternate install disks for xubuntu 13.10?19:51
holstein!minimal19:52
ubottuThe Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD19:52
holsteinxerox_alto: the minimal works as an alternate did.. let me see if i find alternate 13.1019:52
xerox_altoholstein does the graphical installer of 13.10 provide options to manually do the partitioning and set up encrypted LVM19:53
holsteinxerox_alto: i do not see it here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/13.10/release/ ..but, you could use the alternate to do what you need to do, and add what you need, such as xubuntu-desktop19:53
holsteinxerox_alto: i think its a good idea to try the live CD to check for support.. you could then take a look at the live CD installer, and move on to the mini if needed19:54
xerox_altothanks holstein i will give it a try19:55
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Monkeytoeis there a way to install berkley db 4.8 to ubuntu 13.10?21:14
Monkeytoenevermind it worked this time :)21:14
xubuntu213hello23:11
xubuntu213hello23:12
m1chaeli'm dealing with a very frustrating issue... when i plug in a 1tb external USB to my laptop running xubuntu 13.10, the desktop freezes (but everything else works, apps, browsing web, etc..)... and the desktop unfreezes when i unmount and disconnect the usb drive..... (i can browse the data just fine on the drive even when the desktop is frozen)23:55

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