| seanz | Greetings humans. | 00:54 |
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| seanz | Can someone explain the difference between a source and a binary Debian package? | 00:54 |
| seanz | I get the literal difference, but I don't get what each is used for exactly. | 00:54 |
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| achiang | seanz: a source package is used to create a binary package. a binary package is the thing you actually install with apt-get | 02:11 |
| achiang | seanz: a single source package can create multiple binary packages | 02:11 |
| Unit193 | Unless he's talking about a binary blob package? | 02:11 |
| achiang | oh... maybe. not sure | 02:11 |
| highvoltage | achiang: basically a source package is what a packager works with. it's a directory with source code and binaries and a debian directory containing scripts and metadata. a binary package is a .deb file that contains the results of a built source package | 07:18 |
| dholbach | good morning | 08:10 |
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| achiang | highvoltage: yes, i was trying to explain that to whoever asked about the difference yesterday :) | 15:59 |
| highvoltage | achiang: cool | 16:03 |
| seanz | achiang: Thanks for the info. I'm trying to nail down what *exactly* I need to create. I'm packaging up a Java war file, essentially, but I want to "do it right" and probably build a source package and have that properly compiled to a binary package. | 16:13 |
| seanz | highvoltage: Thanks as well for your info. | 16:13 |
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| seanz | So would you all recommend I build a source package, or compile my war file separately and skip straight to the binary package? | 18:07 |
| seanz | achiang, highvoltage: ^ ^ ^ | 18:08 |
| highvoltage | seanz: if you build a package only containing a war package, then you can't upload it to debian or ubuntu | 18:36 |
| highvoltage | seanz: you'll need a source package if you'd ever want to upload it to ubuntu or a PPA | 18:37 |
| seanz | highvoltage: That makes sense, but when I actually have both, and the changes file and the description file, I'm actually uploading them all at once, aren't I? Or am I solely uploading the source file? | 18:55 |
| seanz | Or source package. | 18:55 |
| highvoltage | seanz: you would upload the source package | 19:25 |
| seanz | highvoltage: So if I were also going to set up an apt server, would I want to set it up such that it automatically builds from source packages? | 19:26 |
| seanz | ...and let that generate the binary .deb upon upload? | 19:26 |
| highvoltage | seanz: depends what you want to do or what the point of that server is. if it's a build server, then you probably want that. if you just want an apt repository, it's fine having binary only or source only or both | 19:29 |
| seanz | highvoltage: Thanks for answering my questions. Technically, I could probably get away with having just an apt repository, but I'm thinking the most versatile way would be to have a build server. | 19:31 |
| seanz | I'm thinking that would keep the packaging process the most straightforward and unchanging. | 19:31 |
| highvoltage | seanz: easiest really is to upload to a PPA | 19:31 |
| highvoltage | https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA | 19:32 |
| seanz | highvoltage: Ok, checking the link. | 19:32 |
| highvoltage | might be better getting aquanted with that before investing in building your own build infrastructure | 19:32 |
| highvoltage | and the process of uploading there is very similar to uploading to debian/ubuntu, so you get a good start on how things work if you follow that | 19:32 |
| seanz | highvoltage: Good point, though the server we're building is for internal use only. I could potentially use a PPA for testing first. | 19:32 |
| highvoltage | seanz: *nod* | 19:33 |
| mfisch | after I make a divert in the preinst, I should be able to drop a file on top of where the original was, right? | 19:42 |
| mfisch | I'm either making a silly mistake or have forgotten how to do this | 19:42 |
| mfisch | for example: dpkg-divert --package foo --add --rename /usr/foo.orig /usr/foo and then in my install file I drop in a new /usr/foo | 19:43 |
| mfisch | (in my example I forgot the --divert arg but I have it in the preinst) | 19:43 |
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