=== Hornet- is now known as Hornet [07:09] morning all [07:43] morning MooDoo [07:45] howdy SuperMatt how are you this fine day? [07:46] wonderful thank you [07:46] though I'm leaving for work now [07:46] toodles [07:48] later :D [08:02] oh boy [08:02] I forgot to check what kind of a cable goes into the laptop powersource before driving south [08:04] ooops [08:06] so now I either need a european adapter or one of these http://www.netstoredirect.com/startech-com-power-cables/48232-startech-com-pxtnb3suk6-power-cable.html [08:06] in about two hours [08:07] morning everyone [08:09] morning knightwise [08:12] hey MooDoo , how are you today [08:13] knightwise: yeah I'm ok thanks :) at work, last day tomorrow, just thinking about building another home server.... [08:15] Same here [08:15] looks like I"ll have to do a little trip to France tomorrow.. [08:16] quickly visit one of our company sites to make sure a server is hooked up [08:17] knightwise: can't someone on site do it [08:22] god bless shaver socket plug adapters [08:23] Too dumb :) [08:23] its ok , [08:23] 3 hour drive each way to plug in 2 connectors [08:25] knightwise: seriously? really? no one is that dumb, ok I take that back [08:27] Hahah :) you have no idea [08:27] And since i'm the senior infrastructure architect .. Its my job to go do that [08:28] knightwise: jesus pay me enough and I'll be your plug in biatch [08:35] Hahah :) [08:35] I don"t mind [08:35] its the last day before the holidays , so its a nice way to close off the week [08:36] * knightwise plans on listening to podcasts and christmass songs all day in the car [08:36] :) [08:43] Morning all, need a web host this morning. I need a shared ( for now ) box that I can telnet out of for socket calls [08:44] Anyone got any ideas? ( I'm in the process of setting up a VPS but not finished yet ) [08:52] popey: A couple of weeks back you were part of a conversation about routers/home hubs that would let you ssh in from the internal network using the external ip address and that some routers/hubs wouldn't let you do that, can you remember what the term was for the setting in the router that would allow you to do that [08:53] I've got something like NAT loopback in mind, but I'm not sure if thats right [09:09] DJones: NAT reflection [09:09] ali1234: Thanks [09:10] not all routers have the option, some will always support it, some never will [09:10] Just found out by accident this morning that the latest Sky routers support it === msm is now known as Guest97475 === Guest97475 is now known as msm_ [09:17] Good morning all; happy Regifting Day! :-D [09:21] regifting day? [09:24] Good morning peeps :) [09:27] oh wow http://www.hs.fi/ruoka/30+huikeaa+piparkakkutaloa++%C3%A4%C3%A4nest%C3%A4+suosikkisi/a1387341900783 [09:28] Coo [09:28] Though that Sponge Bob is freaking me out [09:28] gosh, we only did the gingerbread house from IKEA [09:29] the trainstation they did is eerily accurate [09:29] Is that Helsinki? I thought I recognised it [09:30] http://files.snstatic.fi/HS/2013/12/piparit/pix/rautatieasema.jpg [09:30] yeah that one [09:30] Yep [09:30] but yeah, there's Hogwarts (Tylypahka), Smaug (I think), few churches [09:30] Thing is, they'll all look the same once your fork does it's work ;-) [09:31] 4th from the bottom looks as though it's been 3d printed [09:31] the tardis is cool :D [09:31] they probably printed a model on paper and put it underneath baking parchment and extruded the meringue on that [09:32] like you'd do 3Doodler ones [09:32] DJones: i dont recall [09:34] Morning btw [09:39] morning [09:42] Ratio at 1.51. I wonder for how long this torrent will be popular [09:42] unbelievable but true.... I BLOGGED o.O This happens like 2x a year :P [09:43] jussi: about as frequently as me then :) Last entry was from February [09:43] hehe [09:43] must be the christmas feel [09:45] http://imgur.com/peilfAh [09:46] Oh my god [09:46] Argh [09:46] I don't know if "ugly" is the right word here [09:46] it's the teeth [09:46] makes me lol every time [09:47] scary? [09:47] hrm, any wordpress themers here... ? [09:48] i know how themes work... i'm not a designer though [09:48] ali1234: hrm, I want to basically have something created that in essence, copies the colours fo my qualle theme [09:49] quassel* [09:49] that's pretty easy [09:49] cant seem to type this morning... maybe need more coffee [09:49] just find a theme you like, and then hack the CSS to change all the colours [09:50] the current one is pretty ok... [09:50] http://jussi01.com/ [09:50] you will want to make a child theme [09:51] http://codex.wordpress.org/Child_Themes [09:51] then just override all the colours [09:51] ok. shoudl be pretty easy... guess Ill give it a go tonight.... [09:52] Many people like my quassel theme, might be nice to try release it as a WP theme also [09:52] (curently looks like: http://i.imgur.com/mrD3P41.png) [09:52] quassel the irc client? [09:52] yup [09:53] WP themes are a lot more than just colours [09:53] jeah, I know, but for starters the colours are th important bit [09:53] I tend to override colours in css [09:56] dammit, I think Ive lost my long 3.5mm extension cord :/ [09:56] I've just noticed that ABP has blocked 7 'ads' on my own blog. Is there a way to find out what it has blocked? [09:56] That's quite a short extension [09:57] it used to be easier to check that [09:57] bigcalm: no.... its an extension for 3.5mm plugs :P [09:57] its 5 M [09:59] Aha, the list is visible in Firefox [09:59] jussi: :P [10:00] bigcalm: you shouldnt be that nasty :P [10:07] bigcalm: I'd use ghostery, it tells you exactly what's blocked if you block it [10:07] good morning everyone. [10:07] in case you're not following me on Google+, Happy Holidays peeps https://plus.google.com/u/0/100016383867666174158/posts/d8CrhbtKNcL [10:10] I follow you, I just haven't looked at g+ for several months now [10:15] Replacement SSD has made it to .de - wonder what I'll do with it once it arrives. Don't actually have a machine lacking an SSD now [10:16] "AGT3-25SAT3-120G.20 being replaced with AGT3-25SAT3-120G.RF" [10:16] Sell it to me for £5 + p&p! [10:16] :) [10:17] ¬.¬ [10:17] No [10:17] :-( [10:43] should I run a trim on an ssd based server running 12.04? [10:43] Is it okay to call male cats pretty? [10:44] sure [10:44] I would have thought now that it's almost 2014 we can do that [10:45] :D [10:48] I like this, some people really have too much time on their hands http://www.superawesomemicroproject.com/ [10:50] wow [10:50] foobarry: I got the job, btw [10:52] Love that engine [10:52] SuperMatt: congrats. What section have you been slotted into? [10:53] I'm not sure yet! I'm getting all the final details today :) [10:53] SuperMatt: rackspace? [10:53] yup [10:53] SuperMatt: oh i'm jelous, but congrats :D [10:53] thanks \o/ [10:53] SuperMatt: that mean you're officially a racker? [10:55] SuperMatt: i have literally just connected, so i've only seen from "final details" but i assume you've just gotten a new job, so congrats ;) [10:55] hahaha [10:55] yeah [10:55] thanks :) [10:55] in other news, i'm amazed how awesome facial wipes and a napkin are at cleaning an apple keyboard [10:56] i leave my ashtray waaaaay too close to my keyboard === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [11:01] woo rackspace [11:01] where are they based? [11:02] wesy london [11:03] west [11:03] hayes [11:05] yup yup [11:05] SuperMatt: congratulations! [11:06] thanks \o/ [11:06] last night I quickly threw http://help.popey.com/ up so I can give people help over webcam without needing google helpouts [11:06] need to put it on SSL so we can do screensharing [11:06] and maybe put some auth on it [11:06] is that webrtc? [11:06] yes [11:07] popey: websockets? [11:07] SuperMatt: Rackspace sponsor the *ubot* bots, so good going! [11:07] SuperMatt: congratulations on the job, sorry to hear about the location :P [11:07] not fully tested yet [11:07] ah, you said webrtc, duh. stilly me. [11:07] haha [11:07] Seeker: yes, that is the downside [11:07] * Seeker grew up in Slough [11:08] jussi: ubot? [11:08] SuperMatt: Ubottu, lubotu et al [11:08] \o/ that works then [11:08] yup [11:09] jussi: ah yes [11:10] popey: does that need chrome? [11:18] i am using chromium [11:18] but firefox works too [11:21] do i have to get someone else o join before the button works? [11:21] which button? [11:21] I'd like to see it as well so up for testing :) [11:22] http://help.popey.com/?ubuntu should work [11:23] it doesn't seem to do anything [11:23] Button is disabled ref share screen [11:33] "http://help.popey.com/ wants to use your camera and microphone." Errr, no ;) [11:33] neuro: well that is kinda the point of the thing [11:33] yeah but i don't want to HAVE to put clothes on ffs [11:33] hot [11:33] caveat: i am wearing clothes [11:34] people say this to me all the time when they learn i work from home [11:34] "oh, must be great to work in your PJs/boxers/the nude" [11:34] and i'm like ewwwww [11:35] ah so i didn't get the prompt under FF, get it under Chromium [11:35] i think it crashed firefox [11:37] boom, the browser goes down [11:39] i can't get it to work at all in chrome or firefox [11:40] i wonder if i can start a kickstarter campaign to raise funds to replace my busted apple display ... [11:41] update-manager has really get extremely annoying [11:41] it pops up every hour here [11:41] neuro: what's the perks? [11:41] and when you "disable" it, it still pops up an empty window [11:41] i get a monitor that works [11:42] neuro: for us, autographed tshirt? [11:42] you get the satisfaction of knowing i have a monitor that works [11:43] can I actively not contribute so I have the satisfaction of knowing you don't have one? [11:43] no [11:43] I'll give you part of a bit coin 101010100101010100101010010101010101 there you go [11:43] funnily enough, apple don't accept bitcoin [11:44] ah well [11:44] My proliant micro server is great at what it does dat to day. But it sucks when you want to import a 3.1GB mysql dump. Speed does not happen [11:44] how much ram? [11:44] 8GB [11:44] I think [11:45] Yes [11:45] the microserver isn't exactly built for speed [11:45] but you probably know this already :) [11:45] Did somebody work out how to put 16GB of RAM into one? [11:46] neuro: aye, does what it needs to do for little power. I like my microserver :) [11:46] the N40L should take 2x8 no problem [11:46] i like mine too, but i don't use it for anything more grunty than rsnapshot backups and bastion ingress [11:46] I can never remember which model I have, but I think it's the N40L [11:47] it's the one with the dual core turion [11:47] Considering work bought me 8GB of ECE, I'd rather not throw it away ;) [11:47] model name : AMD Turion(tm) II Neo N40L Dual-Core Processor [11:48] model name : AMD Turion(tm) II Neo N40L Dual-Core Processor [11:48] there you go ;) [11:48] Oh yes :) [11:48] i just have the stock 2GB in mine [11:50] It took 7m22s to dump from the Rackspace production server. Still waiting for the local import to complete [11:50] moving your dbs to ssd would probably help [11:50] plus MOAR RAMS [11:51] Heh [11:51] It's not often that I have to import a production dump [11:51] i have to try and sell moving our db cluster from stock amazon EC2 instances to PIOPS ones at some point [11:52] also at some point i need to do a centos/win->ubuntu migration for most of our stuff [11:53] mind you, i've been saying we're going to do that for months and i just haven't found the time *sigh* [12:03] We should so ditch Oracle and go for PostgreSQL [12:03] mongodb if czajkowski was here ;) [12:03] why postgres rather than mysql? [12:03] PostgreSQL has a PL/SQL compatibility layer [12:03] ew, ok [12:04] ;) [12:04] Plus it's more enterprisey than MySQL [12:04] Enterprisey counts for a lot [12:04] I hate that term [12:04] yeah [12:04] I use it with the finest tone of irony possible [12:04] like "foody" [12:04] ah, i did not detect that [12:05] We used to have a org-wide license for Oracle [12:05] gah, why does all helpdesk software either be sucky and/or be stupidly expensive [12:05] I think now we have to buy our own [12:05] neuro, Because it's enterprisey [12:05] lol, touché [12:08] Why do I always forget about pipe viewer? [12:09] Because reasons. [12:09] Of course [12:10] Considering it's been more than 20 mins since I started the import, I don't want to start it again with pv in place [12:10] such useful! [12:10] Ag, no [12:11] After typing that, I can't but help read it as "gold, no" [12:11] Erm [12:11] Silver [12:11] :D [12:11] plutonium [12:12] o.O [12:12] no? [12:12] it's fun! [12:12] you know, for kids! [12:13] trix [12:13] real 31m22.547s [12:13] user 2m57.247s [12:13] sys 0m8.073s [12:13] my hudsucker proxy reference appears to have gone straight over your head [12:14] Who what now? [12:15] that was for laney :) [12:15] i don't know what that is [12:15] so yes [12:15] tsk [12:15] no culture in here [12:29] O [12:31] Congratulations (or commiserations) to me, I am now officially allowed to stay in Finland permanently.... [12:32] you lead with the 'grats and you obviously requested it, so I think it must be a good thing! [12:32] well done jussi [12:33] thanks SuperMatt [12:34] looks like today is a good news day for a lot of people [12:36] sounds that way :) [12:36] Huva! [12:37] haha [12:37] Hyvä ;) [12:39] It's been a while :P [12:39] "good" was the only thing I could remember for the situation [13:07] SuperMatt, today is a day of EXCITEMENT! [13:07] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thILxw6wBJE [13:07] WHOOP WHOOP [13:08] SuperMatt: congrts \o/ [13:08] thanks :) [13:13] that video is brilliant [13:25] Wonder how long until they get a DMCA take down video on that for Cokes music :) [13:25] It's not an exact copy though [13:25] ; [13:25] ) [13:25] Doesn't seem to really matter with these people though... :/ [13:26] it's a derivative work, which should be fine in terms of copyright, especially as it's not for profit [13:26] having said that, yes, coke will probably pull it === msm is now known as msm_ [13:30] * bigcalm has a slow boogie to "Self Control" [13:34] Looking at "leather elbow patch" on amazon. I is old now === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [13:38] bigcalm: Or hipster? [13:38] TwistedLucidity: do hipsters wear such things because they are practical? [13:38] what do they do? are they preventative? [13:38] or to patch a hole [13:39] hhipsters never wear things because they are practical [13:39] they stop the elbows of your jacket wearing [13:39] i've never expericend that problem [13:39] i think its a false economy [13:39] I have a lot of tops where the left elbow has worn out [13:40] it depends whether you eat with your elbows on the table [13:40] I put a lot of weight on my left elbow when thinking about problems [13:40] lol [13:40] My office chair has arm rests [13:40] bigclam: I don't really know. This is what enters my mind when I hear the word "hipster" http://2.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com/71/43/7d39bc3a24dee14013b5689279c3276c.jpg [13:40] in gneral the collars wear out first or you get too large [13:40] TwistedLucidity: oh my, not me [13:41] hipster is originally like a 1950s beatnik [13:41] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LcnkkGAiU8 [13:41] I wear Gore-Tex because it's practical. And leather (still better in abrassion than Cordura etc) [13:41] most of them in shoreditch look like this, but with beard [13:41] http://searchingforstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Hipster1.jpg [13:42] fobarry: Wannabe "New Romantics" you mean? But don't have the balls. [13:43] i went to a concert a few months ago and it was a hispter convention, everybody was indentical , was hilarious [13:43] indentical hispters, eh? [13:46] I was indentical before everyone else was. Humph! [13:46] ;) [13:47] whee cloverleaf cable ♥ [15:06] Myrtti: http://i.imgur.com/Q2vLeIN.jpg [15:06] nice [15:12] Coo [15:15] https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/+MatthewAmes/albums/5959114794313753729/5959114795793714786?pid=5959114795793714786&oid=104760950939866700163 anyone know which star wars character this is? [15:18] Boba Fett [15:18] just asked my 7 year old son, who told me instantly ☻ [15:18] oh of course! [15:18] lollers === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [15:44] SuperMatt: please hand in your geek credentials when you leave [15:47] the only star wars are 4-6 [15:48] neuro: what foobarry said [15:48] I was mislead when I bought this star wars calendar [15:48] I thought it would actually have star wars characters in it :P [15:49] i should sell my yak face character sometime [15:49] worth about £80 [15:51] nice little markup there [15:51] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdEUwHF7d7I [15:51] got battle damaged x-wing in box [15:51] etc etc [15:52] WHEN THE FACE IS A PRUNE, ACTION GOES *BOOM* [15:55] in fairness i'm a geek but consider Star Wars to be overrated tosh :D [15:55] oh dear [15:55] * daftykins ducks from the impending flying tomatoes [15:55] i'm not a geek and 4-6 was my childhood [15:55] i hate star trek programme and all the soap opera derivatives [15:58] there's a distinct lack of good sci-fi out there [15:58] what's your definition of good sci-fi? [16:00] foobarry: you "hate star trek programme"?! [16:01] neuro: yes [16:01] you know there's more than one, right? [16:01] I recently watched all of TNG and had a great time doing so [16:01] programmes and their derivatives [16:02] how can you "hate" star trek, is what interests me [16:03] i hate most soap operas [16:03] *all [16:03] my wife watches some of those star trek ones [16:03] worf , stryker, counsellor troy etc [16:03] you know star trek isn't a soap opera, right? [16:04] oh? [16:04] is casualty a soap? [16:04] technically it's a drama, but i'd say it's more soap these days [16:05] A soap opera, often referred to simply as a soap, is a serial drama, on television or radio, that features multiple related story lines dealing with the lives of multiple characters [16:05] The stories in these series typically focus heavily on emotional relationships to the point of melodrama. [16:05] it sounds like you haven't really watched a lot of star trek, if any, or if you have watched some, you've managed to watch the rubbish episodes (e.g. most of S1-2 of TNG) [16:05] yep. soap [16:05] errr [16:05] no [16:05] ail [16:05] that annoying gamlbing creature [16:05] fail [16:06] the annoying gambling creature? [16:06] do you mean Quark? [16:06] i don't know his name. [16:06] yes [16:06] he's one of the best characters in DS9 [16:06] i've been told geeks get strong feelings about their soaps [16:06] ah [16:06] ok [16:06] you're trolling [16:07] never mind [16:07] depends who's trolling who [16:07] i said i don't like those star trek programmes and related spinoffs [16:07] loosely related [16:07] How do you get `ps` to output memory per process as a human readable amount (MB) rather than a percentage of the system's total? [16:07] i've been exposed to a lot by my wife [16:08] foobarry: anything further you have to say on the subject is probably you trying to troll us (or specifically me), so let's talk about something else [16:08] ok [16:09] bigcalm: this is pretty ridiculous, if you're interested: [16:09] ps -eo size,pid,user,command | awk '{ hr=$1/1024 ; printf("%13.6f Mb ",hr) } { for ( x=4 ; x<=NF ; x++ ) { printf("%s ",$x) } print "" }' | sort [16:09] o.O [16:09] i know [16:09] That's rather silly. Thanks though :) [16:09] probably needs a -n at the end [16:10] MySQL using 1.2GB :D [16:10] I'm going to stick that in an alias! [16:11] that's not an unreasonable amount [16:11] According to that - plasma desktop is sucking down 2.7GB, kwin 2.4GB, XBMC 1.2GB [16:11] :-S [16:11] i have a slave over here using 9G [16:13] And those figures don't seem to match top - odd [16:13] i think it's looking at the vm value [16:13] memory usage reporting on unix is weird [16:14] then again, i'm using 13.5G of unswapped memory on a machine with 8G ram, go figure [16:14]