[07:09] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:43] <SuperMatt> morning MooDoo
[07:45] <MooDoo> howdy SuperMatt how are you this fine day?
[07:46] <SuperMatt> wonderful thank you
[07:46] <SuperMatt> though I'm leaving for work now
[07:46] <SuperMatt> toodles
[07:48] <MooDoo> later :D
[08:02] <Myrtti> oh boy
[08:02] <Myrtti> I forgot to check what kind of a cable goes into the laptop powersource before driving south
[08:04] <MooDoo> ooops
[08:06] <Myrtti> so now I either need a european adapter or one of these http://www.netstoredirect.com/startech-com-power-cables/48232-startech-com-pxtnb3suk6-power-cable.html
[08:06] <Myrtti> in about two hours
[08:07] <knightwise> morning everyone
[08:09] <MooDoo> morning knightwise
[08:12] <knightwise> hey MooDoo , how are you today
[08:13] <MooDoo> knightwise: yeah I'm ok thanks :) at work, last day tomorrow, just thinking about building another home server....
[08:15] <knightwise> Same here
[08:15] <knightwise> looks like I"ll have to do a little trip to France tomorrow..
[08:16] <knightwise> quickly visit one of our company sites to make sure a server is hooked up
[08:17] <MooDoo> knightwise: can't someone on site do it
[08:22] <Myrtti> god bless shaver socket plug adapters
[08:23] <knightwise> Too dumb :)
[08:23] <knightwise> its ok ,
[08:23] <knightwise> 3 hour drive each way to plug in 2 connectors
[08:25] <MooDoo> knightwise: seriously?  really? no one is that dumb, ok I take that back
[08:27] <knightwise> Hahah :) you have no idea
[08:27] <knightwise> And since i'm the senior infrastructure architect .. Its my job to go do that
[08:28] <MooDoo> knightwise: jesus pay me enough and I'll be your plug in biatch
[08:35] <knightwise> Hahah :)
[08:35] <knightwise> I don"t mind
[08:35] <knightwise> its the last day before the holidays , so its a nice way to close off the week
[08:36]  * knightwise plans on listening to podcasts and christmass songs all day in the car
[08:36] <MooDoo> :)
[08:43] <diplo> Morning all, need a web host this morning. I need a shared ( for now ) box that I can telnet out of for socket calls
[08:44] <diplo> Anyone got any ideas? ( I'm in the process of setting up a VPS but not finished yet )
[08:52] <DJones> popey: A couple of weeks back you were part of a conversation about routers/home hubs that would let you ssh in from the internal network using the external ip address and that some routers/hubs wouldn't let you do that, can you remember what the term was for the setting in the router that would allow you to do that
[08:53] <DJones> I've got something like NAT loopback in mind, but I'm not sure if thats right
[09:09] <ali1234> DJones: NAT reflection
[09:09] <DJones> ali1234: Thanks
[09:10] <ali1234> not all routers have the option, some will always support it, some never will
[09:10] <DJones> Just found out by accident this morning that the latest Sky routers support it
[09:17] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Regifting Day! :-D
[09:21] <bashrc> regifting day?
[09:24] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[09:27] <Myrtti> oh wow http://www.hs.fi/ruoka/30+huikeaa+piparkakkutaloa++%C3%A4%C3%A4nest%C3%A4+suosikkisi/a1387341900783
[09:28] <bigcalm> Coo
[09:28] <bigcalm> Though that Sponge Bob is freaking me out
[09:28] <AlanBell> gosh, we only did the gingerbread house from IKEA
[09:29] <Myrtti> the trainstation they did is eerily accurate
[09:29] <bigcalm> Is that Helsinki? I thought I recognised it
[09:30] <Myrtti> http://files.snstatic.fi/HS/2013/12/piparit/pix/rautatieasema.jpg
[09:30] <Myrtti> yeah that one
[09:30] <bigcalm> Yep
[09:30] <Myrtti> but yeah, there's Hogwarts (Tylypahka), Smaug (I think), few churches
[09:30] <TheOpenSourcerer> Thing is, they'll all look the same once your fork does it's work ;-)
[09:31] <bigcalm> 4th from the bottom looks as though it's been 3d printed
[09:31] <jussi> the tardis is cool :D
[09:31] <Myrtti> they probably printed a model on paper and put it underneath baking parchment and extruded the meringue on that
[09:32] <Myrtti> like you'd do 3Doodler ones
[09:32] <popey> DJones: i dont recall
[09:34] <popey> Morning btw
[09:39] <MooDoo> morning
[09:42] <bigcalm> Ratio at 1.51. I wonder for how long this torrent will be popular
[09:42] <jussi> unbelievable but true.... I BLOGGED o.O This happens like 2x a year :P
[09:43] <bigcalm> jussi: about as frequently as me then :) Last entry was from February
[09:43] <jussi> hehe
[09:43] <jussi> must be the christmas feel
[09:45] <ali1234> http://imgur.com/peilfAh
[09:46] <bigcalm> Oh my god
[09:46] <bigcalm> Argh
[09:46] <bigcalm> I don't know if "ugly" is the right word here
[09:46] <ali1234> it's the teeth
[09:46] <ali1234> makes me lol every time
[09:47] <jussi> scary?
[09:47] <jussi> hrm, any wordpress themers here... ?
[09:48] <ali1234> i know how themes work... i'm not a designer though
[09:48] <jussi> ali1234: hrm, I want to basically have something created that in essence, copies the colours fo my qualle theme
[09:49] <jussi> quassel*
[09:49] <ali1234> that's pretty easy
[09:49] <jussi> cant seem to type this morning... maybe need more coffee
[09:49] <ali1234> just find a theme you like, and then hack the CSS to change all the colours
[09:50] <jussi> the current one is pretty ok...
[09:50] <jussi> http://jussi01.com/
[09:50] <ali1234> you will want to make a child theme
[09:51] <ali1234> http://codex.wordpress.org/Child_Themes
[09:51] <ali1234> then just override all the colours
[09:51] <jussi> ok. shoudl be pretty easy... guess Ill give it a go tonight....
[09:52] <jussi> Many people like my quassel theme, might be nice to try release it as a WP theme also
[09:52] <jussi> (curently looks like: http://i.imgur.com/mrD3P41.png)
[09:52] <ali1234> quassel the irc client?
[09:52] <jussi> yup
[09:53] <ali1234> WP themes are a lot more than just colours
[09:53] <jussi> jeah, I know, but for starters the colours are th important bit
[09:53] <SuperMatt> I tend to override colours in css
[09:56] <jussi> dammit, I think Ive lost my long 3.5mm extension cord :/
[09:56] <bigcalm> I've just noticed that ABP has blocked 7 'ads' on my own blog. Is there a way to find out what it has blocked?
[09:56] <bigcalm> That's quite a short extension
[09:57] <foobarry> it used to be easier to check that
[09:57] <jussi> bigcalm: no.... its an extension for 3.5mm plugs :P
[09:57] <jussi> its 5 M
[09:59] <bigcalm> Aha, the list is visible in Firefox
[09:59] <bigcalm> jussi: :P
[10:00] <jussi> bigcalm: you shouldnt be that nasty :P
[10:07] <popey> bigcalm: I'd use ghostery, it tells you exactly what's blocked if you block it
[10:07] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[10:07] <Myrtti> in case you're not following me on Google+, Happy Holidays peeps https://plus.google.com/u/0/100016383867666174158/posts/d8CrhbtKNcL
[10:10] <bigcalm> I follow you, I just haven't looked at g+ for several months now
[10:15] <bigcalm> Replacement SSD has made it to .de - wonder what I'll do with it once it arrives. Don't actually have a machine lacking an SSD now
[10:16] <bigcalm> "AGT3-25SAT3-120G.20 being replaced with AGT3-25SAT3-120G.RF"
[10:16] <diplo> Sell it to me for £5 + p&p!
[10:16] <diplo> :)
[10:17] <bigcalm> ¬.¬
[10:17] <bigcalm> No
[10:17] <diplo> :-(
[10:43] <AlanBell> should I run a trim on an ssd based server running 12.04?
[10:43] <bigcalm> Is it okay to call male cats pretty?
[10:44] <SuperMatt> sure
[10:44] <SuperMatt> I would have thought now that it's almost 2014 we can do that
[10:45] <bigcalm> :D
[10:48] <DJones> I like this, some people really have too much time on their hands http://www.superawesomemicroproject.com/
[10:50] <MooDoo> wow
[10:50] <SuperMatt> foobarry: I got the job, btw
[10:52] <bigcalm> Love that engine
[10:52] <bigcalm> SuperMatt: congrats. What section have you been slotted into?
[10:53] <SuperMatt> I'm not sure yet! I'm getting all the final details today :)
[10:53] <MooDoo> SuperMatt: rackspace?
[10:53] <SuperMatt> yup
[10:53] <MooDoo> SuperMatt: oh i'm jelous, but congrats :D
[10:53] <SuperMatt> thanks \o/
[10:53] <MooDoo> SuperMatt: that mean you're officially a racker?
[10:55] <neuro> SuperMatt: i have literally just connected, so i've only seen from "final details" but i assume you've just gotten a new job, so congrats ;)
[10:55] <SuperMatt> hahaha
[10:55] <SuperMatt> yeah
[10:55] <SuperMatt> thanks :)
[10:55] <neuro> in other news, i'm amazed how awesome facial wipes and a napkin are at cleaning an apple keyboard
[10:56] <neuro> i leave my ashtray waaaaay too close to my keyboard
[11:01] <Laney> woo rackspace
[11:01] <Laney> where are they based?
[11:02] <SuperMatt> wesy london
[11:03] <SuperMatt> west
[11:03] <MooDoo> hayes
[11:05] <SuperMatt> yup yup
[11:05] <popey> SuperMatt: congratulations!
[11:06] <SuperMatt> thanks \o/
[11:06] <popey> last night I quickly threw http://help.popey.com/ up so I can give people help over webcam without needing google helpouts
[11:06] <popey> need to put it on SSL so we can do screensharing
[11:06] <popey> and maybe put some auth on it
[11:06] <AlanBell> is that webrtc?
[11:06] <popey> yes
[11:07] <SuperMatt> popey: websockets?
[11:07] <jussi> SuperMatt: Rackspace sponsor the *ubot* bots, so good going!
[11:07] <Seeker> SuperMatt: congratulations on the job, sorry to hear about the location :P
[11:07] <popey> not fully tested yet
[11:07] <SuperMatt> ah, you said webrtc, duh. stilly me.
[11:07] <popey> haha
[11:07] <SuperMatt> Seeker: yes, that is the downside
[11:07]  * Seeker grew up in Slough
[11:08] <SuperMatt> jussi: ubot?
[11:08] <jussi> SuperMatt: Ubottu, lubotu et al
[11:08] <popey> \o/ that works then
[11:08] <AlanBell> yup
[11:09] <SuperMatt> jussi: ah yes
[11:10] <ali1234> popey: does that need chrome?
[11:18] <popey> i am using chromium
[11:18] <popey> but firefox works too
[11:21] <ali1234> do i have to get someone else o join before the button works?
[11:21] <popey> which button?
[11:21] <diplo> I'd like to see it as well so up for testing :)
[11:22] <popey> http://help.popey.com/?ubuntu should work
[11:23] <ali1234> it doesn't seem to do anything
[11:23] <diplo> Button is disabled ref share screen
[11:33] <neuro> "http://help.popey.com/ wants to use your camera and microphone." Errr, no ;)
[11:33] <AlanBell> neuro: well that is kinda the point of the thing
[11:33] <neuro> yeah but i don't want to HAVE to put clothes on ffs
[11:33] <Laney> hot
[11:33] <neuro> caveat: i am wearing clothes
[11:34] <neuro> people say this to me all the time when they learn i work from home
[11:34] <neuro> "oh, must be great to work in your PJs/boxers/the nude"
[11:34] <neuro> and i'm like ewwwww
[11:35] <diplo> ah so i didn't get the prompt under FF, get it under Chromium
[11:35] <Laney> i think it crashed firefox
[11:37] <Laney> boom, the browser goes down
[11:39] <ali1234> i can't get it to work at all in chrome or firefox
[11:40] <neuro> i wonder if i can start a kickstarter campaign to raise funds to replace my busted apple display ...
[11:41] <ali1234> update-manager has really get extremely annoying
[11:41] <ali1234> it pops up every hour here
[11:41] <MooDoo> neuro: what's the perks?
[11:41] <ali1234> and when you "disable" it, it still pops up an empty window
[11:41] <neuro> i get a monitor that works
[11:42] <MooDoo> neuro: for us, autographed tshirt?
[11:42] <neuro> you get the satisfaction of knowing i have a monitor that works
[11:43] <popey> can I actively not contribute so I have the satisfaction of knowing you don't have one?
[11:43] <neuro> no
[11:43] <MooDoo> I'll give you part of a bit coin 101010100101010100101010010101010101 there you go
[11:43] <neuro> funnily enough, apple don't accept bitcoin
[11:44] <MooDoo> ah well
[11:44] <bigcalm> My proliant micro server is great at what it does dat to day. But it sucks when you want to import a 3.1GB mysql dump. Speed does not happen
[11:44] <popey> how much ram?
[11:44] <bigcalm> 8GB
[11:44] <bigcalm> I think
[11:45] <bigcalm> Yes
[11:45] <neuro> the microserver isn't exactly built for speed
[11:45] <neuro> but you probably know this already :)
[11:45] <bigcalm> Did somebody work out how to put 16GB of RAM into one?
[11:46] <bigcalm> neuro: aye, does what it needs to do for little power. I like my microserver :)
[11:46] <neuro> the N40L should take 2x8 no problem
[11:46] <neuro> i like mine too, but i don't use it for anything more grunty than rsnapshot backups and bastion ingress
[11:46] <bigcalm> I can never remember which model I have, but I think it's the N40L
[11:47] <neuro> it's the one with the dual core turion
[11:47] <bigcalm> Considering work bought me 8GB of ECE, I'd rather not throw it away ;)
[11:47] <neuro> model name	: AMD Turion(tm) II Neo N40L Dual-Core Processor
[11:48] <bigcalm> model name	: AMD Turion(tm) II Neo N40L Dual-Core Processor
[11:48] <neuro> there you go ;)
[11:48] <bigcalm> Oh yes :)
[11:48] <neuro> i just have the stock 2GB in mine
[11:50] <bigcalm> It took 7m22s to dump from the Rackspace production server. Still waiting for the local import to complete
[11:50] <neuro> moving your dbs to ssd would probably help
[11:50] <neuro> plus MOAR RAMS
[11:51] <bigcalm> Heh
[11:51] <bigcalm> It's not often that I have to import a production dump
[11:51] <neuro> i have to try and sell moving our db cluster from stock amazon EC2 instances to PIOPS ones at some point
[11:52] <neuro> also at some point i need to do a centos/win->ubuntu migration for most of our stuff
[11:53] <neuro> mind you, i've been saying we're going to do that for months and i just haven't found the time *sigh*
[12:03] <awilkins> We should so ditch Oracle and go for PostgreSQL
[12:03] <MooDoo> mongodb if czajkowski was here ;)
[12:03] <neuro> why postgres rather than mysql?
[12:03] <awilkins> PostgreSQL has a PL/SQL compatibility layer
[12:03] <neuro> ew, ok
[12:04] <neuro> ;)
[12:04] <awilkins> Plus it's more enterprisey than MySQL
[12:04] <awilkins> Enterprisey counts for a lot
[12:04] <bigcalm> I hate that term
[12:04] <neuro> yeah
[12:04] <awilkins> I use it with the finest tone of irony possible
[12:04] <neuro> like "foody"
[12:04] <neuro> ah, i did not detect that
[12:05] <awilkins> We used to have a org-wide license for Oracle
[12:05] <neuro> gah, why does all helpdesk software either be sucky and/or be stupidly expensive
[12:05] <awilkins> I think now we have to buy our own
[12:05] <awilkins> neuro, Because it's enterprisey
[12:05] <neuro> lol, touché
[12:08] <bigcalm> Why do I always forget about pipe viewer?
[12:09] <neuro> Because reasons.
[12:09] <bigcalm> Of course
[12:10] <bigcalm> Considering it's been more than 20 mins since I started the import, I don't want to start it again with pv in place
[12:10] <MartijnVdS> such useful!
[12:10] <bigcalm> Ag, no
[12:11] <bigcalm> After typing that, I can't but help read it as "gold, no"
[12:11] <bigcalm> Erm
[12:11] <bigcalm> Silver
[12:11] <bigcalm> :D
[12:11] <neuro> plutonium
[12:12] <bigcalm> o.O
[12:12] <bigcalm> no?
[12:12] <neuro> it's fun!
[12:12] <neuro> you know, for kids!
[12:13] <Laney> trix
[12:13] <bigcalm> real	31m22.547s
[12:13] <bigcalm> user	2m57.247s
[12:13] <bigcalm> sys	0m8.073s
[12:13] <neuro> my hudsucker proxy reference appears to have gone straight over your head
[12:14] <bigcalm> Who what now?
[12:15] <neuro> that was for laney :)
[12:15] <Laney> i don't know what that is
[12:15] <Laney> so yes
[12:15] <neuro> tsk
[12:15] <neuro> no culture in here
[12:29] <ali1234> O
[12:31] <jussi> Congratulations (or commiserations) to me, I am now officially allowed to stay in Finland permanently....
[12:32] <SuperMatt> you lead with the 'grats and you obviously requested it, so I think it must be a good thing!
[12:32] <SuperMatt> well done jussi
[12:33] <jussi> thanks SuperMatt
[12:34] <SuperMatt> looks like today is a good news day for a lot of people
[12:36] <jussi> sounds that way :)
[12:36] <bigcalm> Huva!
[12:37] <jussi> haha
[12:37] <jussi> Hyvä ;)
[12:39] <bigcalm> It's been a while :P
[12:39] <bigcalm> "good" was the only thing I could remember for the situation
[13:07] <directhex> SuperMatt, today is a day of EXCITEMENT!
[13:07] <directhex> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thILxw6wBJE
[13:07] <SuperMatt> WHOOP WHOOP
[13:08] <foobarry> SuperMatt: congrts \o/
[13:08] <SuperMatt> thanks :)
[13:13] <popey> that video is brilliant
[13:25] <diplo> Wonder how long until they get a DMCA take down video on that for Cokes music :)
[13:25] <bigcalm> It's not an exact copy though
[13:25] <bigcalm> ;
[13:25] <bigcalm> )
[13:25] <diplo> Doesn't seem to really matter with these people though... :/
[13:26] <SuperMatt> it's a derivative work, which should be fine in terms of copyright, especially as it's not for profit
[13:26] <SuperMatt> having said that, yes, coke will probably pull it
[13:30]  * bigcalm has a slow boogie to "Self Control"
[13:34] <bigcalm> Looking at "leather elbow patch" on amazon. I is old now
[13:38] <TwistedLucidity> bigcalm: Or hipster?
[13:38] <bigcalm> TwistedLucidity: do hipsters wear such things because they are practical?
[13:38] <foobarry> what do they do? are they preventative?
[13:38] <foobarry> or to patch a hole
[13:39] <bashrc> hhipsters never wear things because they are practical
[13:39] <gordonjcp> they stop the elbows of your jacket wearing
[13:39] <foobarry> i've never expericend that problem
[13:39] <foobarry> i think its a false economy
[13:39] <bigcalm> I have a lot of tops where the left elbow has worn out
[13:40] <bashrc> it depends whether you eat with your elbows on the table
[13:40] <bigcalm> I put a lot of weight on my left elbow when thinking about problems
[13:40] <foobarry> lol
[13:40] <bigcalm> My office chair has arm rests
[13:40] <TwistedLucidity> bigclam: I don't really know. This is what enters my mind when I hear the word "hipster" http://2.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com/71/43/7d39bc3a24dee14013b5689279c3276c.jpg
[13:40] <foobarry> in gneral the collars wear out first or you get too large
[13:40] <bigcalm> TwistedLucidity: oh my, not me
[13:41] <bashrc> hipster is originally like a 1950s beatnik
[13:41] <bigcalm> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LcnkkGAiU8
[13:41] <TwistedLucidity> I wear Gore-Tex because it's practical. And leather (still better in abrassion than Cordura etc)
[13:41] <foobarry> most of them in shoreditch look like this, but with beard
[13:41] <foobarry> http://searchingforstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Hipster1.jpg
[13:42] <TwistedLucidity> fobarry: Wannabe "New Romantics" you mean? But don't have the balls.
[13:43] <foobarry> i went to a concert a few months ago and it was a hispter convention, everybody was indentical , was hilarious
[13:43] <neuro> indentical hispters, eh?
[13:46] <TwistedLucidity> I was indentical before everyone else was. Humph!
[13:46] <neuro> ;)
[13:47] <Myrtti> whee cloverleaf cable ♥
[15:06] <AlanBell> Myrtti: http://i.imgur.com/Q2vLeIN.jpg
[15:06] <Myrtti> nice
[15:12] <bigcalm> Coo
[15:15] <SuperMatt> https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/+MatthewAmes/albums/5959114794313753729/5959114795793714786?pid=5959114795793714786&oid=104760950939866700163 anyone know which star wars character this is?
[15:18] <popey> Boba Fett
[15:18] <popey> just asked my 7 year old son, who told me instantly ☻
[15:18] <SuperMatt> oh of course!
[15:18] <SuperMatt> lollers
[15:44] <neuro> SuperMatt: please hand in your geek credentials when you leave
[15:47] <foobarry> the only star wars are 4-6
[15:48] <SuperMatt> neuro: what foobarry said
[15:48] <SuperMatt> I was mislead when I bought this star wars calendar
[15:48] <SuperMatt> I thought it would actually have star wars characters in it :P
[15:49] <foobarry> i should sell my yak face character sometime
[15:49] <foobarry> worth about £80
[15:51] <SuperMatt> nice little markup there
[15:51] <neuro> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdEUwHF7d7I
[15:51] <foobarry> got battle damaged x-wing in box
[15:51] <foobarry> etc etc
[15:52] <neuro> WHEN THE FACE IS A PRUNE, ACTION GOES *BOOM*
[15:55] <daftykins> in fairness i'm a geek but consider Star Wars to be overrated tosh :D
[15:55] <neuro> oh dear
[15:55]  * daftykins ducks from the impending flying tomatoes
[15:55] <foobarry> i'm not a geek and 4-6 was my childhood
[15:55] <foobarry> i hate star trek programme and all the soap opera derivatives
[15:58] <daftykins> there's a distinct lack of good sci-fi out there
[15:58] <SuperMatt> what's your definition of good sci-fi?
[16:00] <neuro> foobarry: you "hate star trek programme"?!
[16:01] <foobarry> neuro: yes
[16:01] <neuro> you know there's more than one, right?
[16:01] <SuperMatt> I recently watched all of TNG and had a great time doing so
[16:01] <foobarry> programmes and their derivatives
[16:02] <neuro> how can you "hate" star trek, is what interests me
[16:03] <foobarry> i hate most soap operas
[16:03] <foobarry> *all
[16:03] <foobarry> my wife watches some of those star trek ones
[16:03] <foobarry> worf , stryker, counsellor troy etc
[16:03] <neuro> you know star trek isn't a soap opera, right?
[16:04] <foobarry> oh?
[16:04] <foobarry> is casualty a soap?
[16:04] <neuro> technically it's a drama, but i'd say it's more soap these days
[16:05] <foobarry> A soap opera, often referred to simply as a soap, is a serial drama, on television or radio, that features multiple related story lines dealing with the lives of multiple characters
[16:05] <foobarry> The stories in these series typically focus heavily on emotional relationships to the point of melodrama.
[16:05] <neuro> it sounds like you haven't really watched a lot of star trek, if any, or if you have watched some, you've managed to watch the rubbish episodes (e.g. most of S1-2 of TNG)
[16:05] <foobarry> yep. soap
[16:05] <neuro> errr
[16:05] <neuro> no
[16:05] <neuro> ail
[16:05] <foobarry> that annoying gamlbing creature
[16:05] <neuro> fail
[16:06] <neuro> the annoying gambling creature?
[16:06] <neuro> do you mean Quark?
[16:06] <foobarry> i don't know his name.
[16:06] <foobarry> yes
[16:06] <neuro> he's one of the best characters in DS9
[16:06] <foobarry> i've been told geeks get strong feelings about their soaps
[16:06] <neuro> ah
[16:06] <neuro> ok
[16:06] <neuro> you're trolling
[16:07] <neuro> never mind
[16:07] <foobarry> depends who's trolling who
[16:07] <foobarry> i said i don't like those star trek programmes and related spinoffs
[16:07] <foobarry> loosely related
[16:07] <bigcalm> How do you get `ps` to output memory per process as a human readable amount (MB) rather than a percentage of the system's total?
[16:07] <foobarry> i've been exposed to a lot by my wife
[16:08] <neuro> foobarry: anything further you have to say on the subject is probably you trying to troll us (or specifically me), so let's talk about something else
[16:08] <foobarry> ok
[16:09] <neuro> bigcalm: this is pretty ridiculous, if you're interested:
[16:09] <neuro> ps -eo size,pid,user,command | awk '{ hr=$1/1024 ; printf("%13.6f Mb ",hr) } { for ( x=4 ; x<=NF ; x++ ) { printf("%s ",$x) } print "" }' | sort
[16:09] <bigcalm> o.O
[16:09] <neuro> i know
[16:09] <bigcalm> That's rather silly. Thanks though :)
[16:09] <neuro> probably needs a -n at the end
[16:10] <bigcalm> MySQL using 1.2GB :D
[16:10] <bigcalm> I'm going to stick that in an alias!
[16:11] <neuro> that's not an unreasonable amount
[16:11] <TwistedLucidity> According to that - plasma desktop is sucking down 2.7GB, kwin 2.4GB, XBMC 1.2GB
[16:11] <TwistedLucidity> :-S
[16:11] <neuro> i have a slave over here using 9G
[16:13] <TwistedLucidity> And those figures don't seem to match top - odd
[16:13] <neuro> i think it's looking at the vm value
[16:13] <neuro> memory usage reporting on unix is weird
[16:14] <neuro> then again, i'm using 13.5G of unswapped memory on a machine with 8G ram, go figure
[16:14] <neuro> (mavericks compressed memory for the win)
[16:15] <foobarry> http://www.reddit.com/r/dogemarket
[16:16] <neuro> wut
[16:16] <foobarry> dogecoin
[16:16] <neuro> i know
[16:16] <bigcalm> What the hell is dogecoin?
[16:17] <foobarry> very fashion
[16:17] <neuro> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogecoin
[16:17] <bigcalm> Argh
[16:17] <neuro> note the "being considered for deletion" header on that page
[16:18] <bigcalm> Oh dear me
[16:18] <foobarry> in the top 10 fake currencies
[16:18] <foobarry> you can probably buy www.windoge.com with it
[16:37] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: W. T. F. ???
[16:38] <bigcalm> TW -> PH -> CN -> DE -> where next shall my SSD be?
[16:40] <bigcalm> Hearing the Windows start up sound makes me want to listen to the Bladerunner OST again
[16:40]  * bigcalm does so
[16:44] <neuro> weird
[16:44] <neuro> i don't get the correlation ;)
[16:44] <neuro> but then again there are loads of windows start up sounds
[16:44] <bigcalm> Humm, I'm now reminded of the music from 'Rendezvous with Rama' game
[16:45] <TwistedLucidity> Should be changed to the sound of someone up-chucking
[16:45] <bigcalm> Oops, Rama (1996) not Rendezvous with Rama (1984)
[16:50] <bigcalm> Nobody has made 'Rama' available for modern systems? I would have thought the gog.com would have it
[16:52] <popey> what did you play it on?
[16:53] <bigcalm> Windows
[16:53] <bigcalm> Whatever was around in 1996
[16:53] <bigcalm> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rama_(video_game)
[16:54] <dogmatic69> bigcalm:  dosbox?
[16:54] <bigcalm> dogmatic69: I did ponder that
[16:54] <dogmatic69> should work, most do
[16:55] <bigcalm> Will have to buy the discs again. I don't think they survived the move
[16:56] <popey> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fws4UYFyftA yay
[16:56] <bigcalm> popey: 2K for half a page? Is that per issue or per annum?
[16:56] <popey> 3 issues
[16:56] <bigcalm> Ah
[16:57] <popey> http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/linux-voice/x/1051579
[16:57] <popey> perks listed there
[16:58] <bigcalm> Aha, yes
[17:04] <neuro> "Our content will be published for free after 9 months"
[17:04] <neuro> by which time, it'll probably be out of date :P
[17:08] <bigcalm> Indeed, so why not make it freely available? I'm hoping for some handy tutorials that are relevant for several months
[17:09] <bigcalm> neuro: I take it that you haven't subscribed?
[17:09] <neuro> bigcalm: no, because i'm skint, otherwise i probably would have
[17:09] <bigcalm> neuro: fair do :)
[17:10] <neuro> 1200-odd quid on car repair, tree felling and work travel doesn't leave much for magazines
[17:14] <neuro> which is why i'm so wound up about my monitor playing up
[17:16] <Laney> pfft, cars :P
[17:34] <bigcalm> My clients are great. One has started a ticket (for a project I work with, but not directly in control of) with "AWOOOGAH"
[17:45] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07P0mXOjKBk ?
[17:46] <bigcalm> Heh, cute
[17:46] <bigcalm> Tempting to paste that as a comment
[17:46] <bigcalm> Amusement could go either way
[18:18] <bigcalm> Package has made it to FR. Getting closer
[18:18] <bigcalm> Isn't parcel tracking fun?
[18:24] <shauno> it gets a bit embarrassing when your gadgets are better travelled than you are
[18:25] <MartijnVdS> shauno: having never been to China, most of my gadgets *are* more well-travelled than I am
[18:25] <shauno> my laptop's been to kazakstan!
[19:24] <DJones> Don't know if this SysAdmin/Webmaster position is of any interest to anybody http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/node/19709 For reference About says "Ekklesia is an independent, not-for-profit thinktank which examines the role of beliefs, values and faith in public life. It advocates transformative ideas and solutions rooted in a strong commitment to social justice, Christian nonconformism, nonviolence, and creative conversations among those of ...
[19:25] <DJones> ... different convictions (religious and otherwise)."
[20:35] <foobarry> DJones: probably if i was single and had a few hours spare a month
[20:35] <foobarry> i used to do stuff like that for churches and charities
[21:13] <Myrtti> uhoh http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/dec/19/apollo-theatre-london-balcony
[21:14] <MartijnVdS> Myrtti: hm, I walked past that place last weekend
[21:16] <MartijnVdS> Myrtti: apparently, it's not just the balcony, but the roof as well
[21:17]  * MartijnVdS switches to BBC News
[21:18] <MartijnVdS> Myrtti: a few years back, a helicopter crashed into Vauxhall station less than a week after I'd left..
[21:18] <MartijnVdS> Myrtti: (I passed through Vauxhall on the way from my hotel to the rest of the city)
[21:19] <MartijnVdS> wait.. that was THIS year?!
[21:23] <Myrtti> awful
[21:29] <MartijnVdS> yeah.. wtf!
[21:30] <MartijnVdS> Myrtti: "All trapped people have been freed"
[23:15] <directhex> can anyone try "wget http://repo.steampowered.com/download/SteamOSInstaller.zip" and start downloading a file which is not 1006147291 bytes big?
[23:25] <AlanBell> directhex:
[23:25] <AlanBell> Length: 1006147291 (960M) [application/zip]
[23:25] <directhex> grrrrrrrrrrr
[23:25] <directhex> stupid CDNs
[23:41] <foster63_> Hello