[00:06] <mikodo> Would be a perfect time to ask a question, being so slow, but alas, I have none :)
[00:10] <Zal> anyone know of any known problem with the latest ubuntu precise LTS AMI? Since switching to it, we're getting segfaults when trying to use Apache + SSL. strace isn't showing anything useful.
[00:10] <syntax_> Hi, I just ran the command "sudo apt-get -f install" to fix any broken packages and there weren't any. After which I tried to install wireshark via "sudo apt-get install wireshark" and I got the following error message "Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages". I was wondering if anyone could help me?
[00:11] <syntax_> If you would like I can pastbin the output for both commands.
[00:11] <Beldar> m1chael, when you plug or unplug a external the computer does read it, what is the partition type of the HD and is there more than one?
[00:11] <riceandbeans> I'm having a weird error trying to do an apt-get update, can anyone give me a tip here
[00:11] <riceandbeans> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise-backports/universe amd64 Packages 404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.14 80]
[00:11] <riceandbeans> 100% [15 Sources bzip2 0 B]bzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file.
[00:11] <riceandbeans> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise-backports/main Sources
[00:11] <riceandbeans> Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com precise-backports/main Sources
[00:11] <FloodBot1> riceandbeans: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:12] <Beldar> riceandbeans, run the update and pastebin all of it for the channel.
[00:13] <essial> Would anyone happen to know of OSS software that can be used to generate formal requirements documents?
[00:13] <riceandbeans> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6597095/
[00:13] <riceandbeans> Beldar:
[00:15] <bekks> essial: LaTeX?
[00:16] <Beldar> riceandbeans, Not sure myself, however I would post that link and a pastebin of the sources.list when you ask for help again, and include any info on modifications you might have made.
[00:16] <syntax_> I was attempting to install a piece of software and got this error: "Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages". I was wondering if anyone could help me troubleshoot the issue.
[00:18] <Beldar> syntax_, Post the package you have tried and the error message, and update will show some errors, for the channel.
[00:18] <Beldar> an*
[00:19] <lysobit> Hi. I'm trying to install Ubuntu alongside Windows 8 (EFI boot), but Ubuntu says "no existing operating system detected"
[00:19] <syntax_> Beldar: http://pastebin.com/XzqiKCzc
[00:19] <Beldar> lysobit, Have you imaged/cloned W8 and made a rcovery disc yet?
[00:20] <Beldar> syntax_, Not me the channel, and keep all the info together.
[00:20] <lysobit> Beldar: My laptop comes with a recovery partition. It's not a concern for me
[00:20] <syntax_> Beldar, ok..., sorry about that.
[00:20] <Zal> where can I find a changelog for differences between Precise LTS Amazon machine imgages that are released?
[00:20] <syntax_> This was the error message I received  after attempting to install the wireshark package: http://pastebin.com/XzqiKCzc
[00:21] <Beldar> lysobit, We see people destroy their setups in this dual boot scenario so I would make an image and the recovery disc.
[00:21]  * hassen wonders if he can use proprietary drivers like his ATI Catalyst center that he used to use in Win7
[00:21] <lysobit> Beldar: It would be nice if I can even get Ubuntu to actually detect Windows 8 so I can even dual boot in the first place ;-)
[00:22] <Beldar> !uefi | lysobit resize windows internally
[00:23] <k1l> !fglrx | hassen
[00:23] <Beldar> Zal, Amazon machine imgages?
[00:24] <hassen> k1l, understood
[00:24] <lysobit> Beldar: I followed the instructions on that page--step #4 is the part I'm stuck at since Ubuntu is not even detecting Win8. And there's no QuickBoot/Intel Smart Start in my BIOS
[00:24] <Zal> Beldar, Amazon Machine *Images* :-)
[00:24] <Beldar> lysobit, Is this your W8 install on a msdos partitioning scenario?
[00:24] <bennypr0fane> hello, I have this gamepad that is incorrectly identified by the kernel, it loads a driver for a different model: it thinks this: Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0f30:0110 Jess Technology Co., Ltd Dual Analog Rumble Pad
[00:25] <Beldar> Zal, What is that?
[00:25] <bennypr0fane> but it's a Saitek device
[00:25] <lysobit> Beldar: I don't follow
[00:25] <lysobit> Beldar: It's W8 pre-installed on a laptop
[00:25] <Beldar> lysobit, Did you install W8?
[00:25] <lysobit> Beldar: Nope, laptop came installed with it
[00:25] <Zal> Beldar, it is an image file used to launch a virtual machine in Amazon's EC2 environment. These images are released by Ubuntu, and we're seeing segfaults using the most recent image. I'm trying to debug the cause.
[00:26] <bennypr0fane> as a consequence, I can't use it in a game bcs the button are somehow mapped in the wrong way, that Jess Tech dvice probably doesn't have the same number of buttons
[00:26] <Beldar> lysobit, Than it is most likely a uefi setup, I would doubt you are missing the bios stuff, but anything is possible.
[00:26] <bennypr0fane> how can make it so the right driver is loaded?
[00:27] <lysobit> Beldar: I know for sure it's a UEFI  setup
[00:28] <Beldar> lysobit, Are you shutting W8 down completely when booting ubuntu or using the hybrid hibernate/sleep?
[00:29] <Beldar> also when checking the bios?
[00:29] <essial> bekks: I'm pretty sure Latex doesn't track requirements to tests in a requirements traceability matrix :-/
[00:31] <lysobit> Beldar: hmm admittedly I may have FastStartup enabled - but since that's a Windows settings  would that prevent Ubuntu from detecting Windows?
[00:31] <Beldar> lysobit, Hard to say, you want windows shutdown completely though, you will not have that option with a dual boot for safe use.
[00:32] <lysobit> I'm going to try with FastStartup disabled and get back to you if it still doesn't detect
[00:32] <Beldar> lysobit, Being in that state also may make the bios not show all the options I suspect, not sure how you would access the bios with it shutdown that way.
[00:34] <Beldar> lysobit, The not detect may also be due to there not being an unallocated space ready for ubuntu, again let me stress a complete imaging of the W8 and a recovery disc made, this is good insurance if things go wrong.
[00:41] <Beldar> !away > CyberJacob|Away
[00:51] <dvanstone> ?
[00:52] <dvanstone> is it safe to ask questions here?
[00:52] <syntax_> yes, I've asked questions and have found the people in this room extremely helpful.
[00:53] <dvanstone> good i hope i can be helpful also
[00:54] <Beldar> lysobit, Hows it going?
[00:57] <syntax_> Beldar: when you finished with lysobit's problem, and if you have some free time afterwords, could you possibly take a look at my problem? If you don't have time that's fine, no worries.
[00:59] <Beldar> syntax_, Is this wire shark from the repos?
[00:59] <syntax_> Beldar: yes it is.
[01:00] <Beldar> syntax_, What release are you running?
[01:00] <syntax_> Beldar: 13.04 (lubuntu)
[01:00] <Beldar> !info wire shark
[01:00] <dvanstone> flood
[01:01] <Beldar> syntax_, You have the repos listed above open for your release?
[01:01] <syntax_> Beldar: open in what sense?
[01:01] <syntax_> Beldar: synaptic is closed
[01:01] <Beldar> syntax_, In software sources they would be ticked.
[01:02] <syntax_> Beldar: wireshark is unticked in the synaptic package manager
[01:03] <Beldar> syntax_, run in the terminal software-properties-gtk and check that  raring-backports, raring-proposed are ticked.
[01:04] <Beldar> syntax_, 2nd tab other software is where you are looking
[01:04] <syntax_> Beldar: checking now
[01:05] <syntax_> Beldar: they are not listed there.
[01:06] <syntax_> Beldar: I have: Canonical Partners, Canonical Partners (Source), Independent, Independent(source), and a google talk plugin
[01:06] <Beldar> syntax_, look carefully in gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   this is opened as read and write remove any # in front of those lines.
[01:07] <syntax_> Beldar: checking now
[01:10] <syntax_> Beldar: here is the entry for raring-backports: http://pastebin.com/8zmEBqC4
[01:10] <syntax_> Beldar: there is no entry for raring-proposed
[01:10] <Beldar> syntax_, Probably no proposed it is closed on a release, but the backports should be there, make sure its open, meaning no #
[01:11] <syntax_> Beldar: there is no #
[01:11] <Beldar> syntax_, Can you pastebin the whole sources.list
[01:11] <syntax_> Beldar: http://pastebin.com/A213A6Qn
[01:12] <syntax_> Beldar: the whole file?
[01:12] <Beldar> syntax_, The whole sources.list
[01:12] <syntax_> Beldar: http://pastebin.com/u3PbK4fG
[01:12] <syntax_> Beldar: sorry about that, see above
[01:14] <Beldar> syntax_, Cool, not sure why this app has theses errors myself, as the bot said "'shark' is not a valid distribution:" and the missing packages may not be there is all.
[01:15] <syntax_> Beldar: do you think there is a package on hold that is preventing it from installing?
[01:15] <Beldar> syntax_, I'm on 14.04 right now and wire shark is not in my repos.
[01:15] <syntax_> Beldar: its one word
[01:15] <syntax_> Beldar: wireshark (maybe that's the reason?)
[01:16] <syntax_> Beldar: its a fairly well known, widely use application so I'm surprised its not there.
[01:16] <Beldar> syntax_, I see it as one word, just not sure to be honest.
[01:16] <syntax_> Beldar: ok, thanks for your help. I will keep trying. Do you suggest anything other than what we tried? Things I might google?
[01:16] <Beldar> syntax_, I would look on the web fopr the missing package, maybe the name has changed.
[01:17] <syntax_> Bedlar: what is the missing package? Or how do I figure out which one is missing?
[01:17] <whoever> Beldar: try  to update package manager
[01:17] <trism> syntax_: what is: apt-cache policy wireshark wireshark-common libwireshark2
[01:18] <syntax_> trism: should I run that command?
[01:18] <trism> syntax_: yes
[01:18] <KI7MT> Beldar, syntax_ it's in the repos up thru and including trusty
[01:19] <syntax_> trism: http://pastebin.com/J8WCqsrQ
[01:21] <trism> syntax_: what do you get if you try: sudo apt-get install libwireshark2;
[01:21] <riceandbeans> Beldar: that is the sources.list installed by Ubuntu
[01:22] <riceandbeans> completely untouched by me
[01:22] <Beldar> riceandbeans, huh?
[01:22] <syntax_> trims, http://pastebin.com/vTvjmspu
[01:22] <syntax_> trism: http://pastebin.com/vTvjmspu
[01:24] <trism> syntax_: apt-cache policy libc-ares2
[01:25] <jimi_> Can somene show me an example of how to create a video loopback device without using webcamstudio
[01:26] <syntax_> trism: http://pastebin.com/YxyRwBGB
[01:27] <trism> !info libc-ares2 raring
[01:27] <riceandbeans> Beldar: the paste from earlier is the result of the stock sources.list from 12.04
[01:27] <riceandbeans> LTS
[01:27] <trism> syntax_: it seems to be there, and it is in main, I don't know what you wouldn't see it
[01:27] <trism> syntax_: have you run: sudo apt-get update; recently?
[01:27] <syntax_> trism: nope, I will run it now. Do you want the output?
[01:28] <trism> syntax_: sure
[01:28] <syntax_> trism: I've run the update. I will pastebin it for oyu
[01:29] <Bray90820> Anyone have any ideas on how to make the fans quieter on a MacPro tower
[01:29] <syntax_> trism: http://pastebin.com/UGpdyAja
[01:30] <Beldar> riceandbeans, I'm not really up on every possibility, but I would start with just changing the repo link, it may be an error in the sources.list, you should post it along with any new inquiry if changing the repo does not work, or beforehand. I have not seen a IP error before myself.
[01:33] <trism> syntax_: that looks fine too, I'm guessing: apt-cache policy libc-ares2; is still empty?
[01:33] <syntax_> trism: I will check
[01:33] <linuxlite1969> guys need help i can't install vlc plugin in my linux
[01:34] <linuxlite1969> it says that Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open
[01:34] <rampage_> test
[01:34] <syntax_> trism: http://pastebin.com/JuzrXtW6
[01:35] <linuxlite1969> and Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/),
[01:35] <linuxlite1969> what should i do?
[01:35] <rampage_> so lots of times i try to raise awareness about furries, but i keep getting told that "this isn't the place for that"
[01:35] <Beldar> linuxlite1969, Do you have two install app open like the software center while running apt-get?
i'm just typing sudo apt-intall vlc browser-plugin-vlc
and sudo apt-get update
[01:37] <Beldar> linuxlite1969, You can tab complete nicks, have you shutdown any installs lately in the middle of installing?
[01:37] <trism> syntax_: what about: apt-cache policy libc6; just want to see the status of something else in main
[01:38] <syntax_> trism: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6597387/
[01:38] <glicks> whts a good python ide  for Ubuntu
[01:38] <glicks> ?
[01:39] <trism> syntax_: if you fire up: software-properties-gtk; is (main) checked?
 it was loading and sudden it says that
[01:40] <Beldar> linuxlite1969, try these two commands  sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get -f install
[01:40] <trism> syntax_: you seem to be missing main for the release raring archive and that's screwing everything up
 i'll try that 2 commands
[01:41] <syntax_> trism: how do I check if main is checked? And how would I go about fixing this issue?
[01:41] <syntax_> trism: (thanks for your help btw)
[01:42] <trism> syntax_: in software-properties-gtk on the first page "Canonical supported free software and open-source software (main)" it is the first checkbox
 the first command says that dpkg status database is locked by another process
[01:42] <syntax_> trism: its listed different on mine but the first one is not checked
[01:43] <trism> syntax_: good, check it and then exit, then you can run: sudo apt-get update; again
 the second says the same ...it says that unable to lock the administrator directory
[01:43] <trism> syntax_: at that point you should be able to: sudo apt-get install wireshark;
[01:44] <syntax_> trism: trying now
[01:44] <syntax_> trism: I followed those steps and got this output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6597404/
[01:45] <syntax_> trism: when I ran sudo apt-get install wireshark
[01:45] <Beldar> linuxlite1969, I'm not up on how to unlock that, I just reboot when this happens to me, if I'm sure there are no install apps open, even the auto update.
[01:45] <Bray90820> Anyone have any ideas on how to make the fans quieter on a MacPro tower
[01:45] <syntax_> trism: I also got some failed to fetch outputs when I ran sudo apt-get update in regards to main
[01:45] <trism> syntax_: ahh okay can you pastebin those?
[01:46] <syntax_> trims: yes
 ok i'm running out of battery and i'm in school..i'll be back later guys
[01:46] <syntax_> trism: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6597425/
[01:47] <Beldar> Bray90820, I would as in  ##hardware or crank up the megadeath.
[01:47] <Beldar> ask*
[01:47] <Bray90820> Beldar: i am asking in here because it's an ubuntu spesific probelum
[01:48] <trism> syntax_: can you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.lst again? seems like you have the cdrom enabled now which often messes things us
[01:48] <Bray90820> on osx and windows the fans are silent
[01:48] <syntax_> trism: ok, getting now
[01:48] <Beldar> Bray90820, and no ones answered it is a hardware problem.
[01:48] <syntax_> trism: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6597429/
[01:49] <Bray90820> well not really a probelum just an annoyince
[01:49] <Beldar> !lm-sensor | Bray90820
[01:49] <Beldar> Bray90820, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[01:50] <Bray90820> Beldar: the reason i am aksing in here is because i think i need to add some software to be able to control it
[01:50] <Bray90820> Beldar: Thanks for the link i will have a look
[01:51] <rene_> hello
[01:51] <trism> syntax_: I think the one you checked in software-properties-gtk was the cdrom one, you can comment out the first line of /etc/apt/sources.list or uncheck the box you just checked to fix that error
[01:52] <syntax_> trism: it was the CD one, that is the only one that I have for main
[01:53] <syntax_> trism: I've unchecked it, how do I add a non-cd version of it?
[01:53] <trism> syntax_: my confusion is that it looks like it is there
[01:54] <trism> syntax_: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu raring main restricted universe multiverse , that line should do it
[01:54] <Beldar> syntax_, You have run a update lately right?
[01:55] <Beldar> syncing the repo
[01:55] <syntax_> trism: my first entry is this: cdrom: [lubuntu 13.04 _Raring Ringtail_ -release amd64 (20130423.1)]/ raring main multiverse restricted universe
[01:55] <syntax_> trism: should I add that deb?
[01:56] <trism> syntax_: put a # in front of that line, you don't want the cdrom one
[01:56] <syntax_> beldar: I've run a distro version update, but not an upgrade to a different one
[01:56] <syntax_> trism: so uncheck it in software and updates?
[01:56] <Beldar> syntax_, Yeah just checking, if you change any repo you run a sudo apt-get update to sync the repos
[01:57] <Bray90820> Beldar: That didn't really help me much
[01:57] <Beldar> Bray90820, could it be that the sensors are not reading the actual temperatures?
[01:57] <syntax_> trism: do I add deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu raring main restricted universe multiverse ? by way of the add function using the GUI version of source.list>\
[01:58] <Bray90820> I don't know
[01:58] <jimi_> anyone here use webcamstudio? i added a source and set the output to video loopback, but it's not showing as a camera in chrome or firefox
[01:58] <trism> syntax_: the pastebin you had before showed you already had it
[01:58] <Beldar> Bray90820, I believe that link addresses that.
[01:58] <Bray90820> but i do know i had it once before on someone elses mac pro
[01:58] <ST0RMHAWK> I think I uninstalled the driver for my keyboard and gamepad... how do I get them working again?
[01:58] <ST0RMHAWK> both usb
[01:58] <CptBley> You see I booted to windows for a change on a dual boot disk and it decided that my file system was corrupt, so it started removing files. I restarted and booted to ubuntu and now I am faced with GRUB
[01:58] <CptBley> Please help
[01:58] <syntax_> trism: oh, ok. Because its not showing up here. My bad.
[01:59] <trism> syntax_: you don't see it in your sources.list?
[01:59] <CptBley> this is urgent
[01:59] <trism> syntax_: I see it on line 5 here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6597429/
[01:59] <Beldar> CptBley, That is a very cryptic description, the details for the channel
[01:59] <syntax_> trism: I'm mistaken the source.list for the snynaptic package manager place
[02:00] <syntax_> trism: software and updates and then 'other software'.
[02:01] <CptBley> help me
[02:01] <CptBley> You see I booted to windows for a change on a dual boot disk and it decided that my file system was corrupt, so it started removing files. I restarted and booted to ubuntu and now I am faced with GRUB
[02:01] <trism> syntax_: yeah other software doesn't show everything
[02:01] <Beldar> !detaiks | CptBley
[02:01] <syntax_> trism: cool, noted.
[02:01] <Beldar> !details | CptBley
[02:01] <hassen> Given that I have win7 in partition 1 (129 gb), partition 2 as primary partition(134 gb),and partition 3 for ubuntu(56 gb),will shrinking partition 2 ruin the dual boot of win7/ubuntu ?
[02:01] <CptBley> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[02:01] <syntax_> trism: I've run sudo apt-get -f install to see if I had any broken packages. Do you want to output from that?
[02:01] <CptBley> Thats all I know
[02:02] <Beldar> CptBley, read your first post how would anyone know what that means
[02:02] <trism> syntax_: if you removed the cdrom, I think we need to clear out your lists: sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/; then run: sudo apt-get update; again
[02:02] <syntax_> trism: ok, I've unchecked the cd-rom I will run that command now
[02:02] <ST0RMHAWK> How do I reinstall the drivers for a usb keyboard? nothing happens when I plug it in but the keyboard light flashes indicating it has been plugged in. USB PORT IS NOT BROKEN. I may have uninstalled a driver for it
[02:02] <trism> syntax_: no it's okay, after that I want to see: apt-cache policy libc6;
[02:02] <CptBley> Other than that I tried to boot to windows XP and it deleted a massive amount of files on the NTFS file system and then when I selected Ubuntu from the boot menu it loaded GRUV
[02:03] <Beldar> CptBley, Is this a wubi install of ubuntu, what bootlaoder has been showing, two questions here.
[02:04] <CptBley> bootloader?
[02:04] <CptBley> it is a wubi install
[02:04] <Beldar> CptBley, bootloader menu?
[02:04] <CptBley> Yes
[02:04] <syntax_> trism: v
[02:04] <syntax_> trism: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6597484/
[02:04] <Beldar> CptBley, Ah a wubi, do you have a XP install disc?
[02:04] <CptBley> No
[02:04] <trism> syntax_: success I think! try: sudo apt-get install wireshark;
[02:05] <Beldar> CptBley, You need one to reload the XP boot to the mbr, or an image that has saved the mbr.
[02:05] <CptBley> I can boot to XP
[02:05] <CptBley> but not Ubuntu, it just wants me to play in grub
[02:05] <Beldar> CptBley, from grub?
[02:05] <CptBley> idk
[02:05] <CptBley> idk how to use grub
[02:06] <CptBley> but I can boot to Xp from the boot menu
[02:06] <Beldar> CptBley, at powering on grub is a menu of OS's
[02:06] <syntax_> trism: IT WORKED! Thank you for being so patient with me and for all your help. I've learned a lot and you were able to solve my problem!
[02:06] <trism> syntax_: excellent
[02:06] <CptBley> no I have this command line thing
[02:06] <syntax_> trism: have a good night
[02:06] <CptBley> that has grub>
[02:06] <syntax_> also thanks to beldar and the rest of the chat.
[02:06] <trism> syntax_: you too
[02:06] <syntax_> peace
[02:07] <Beldar> CptBley, And when you get grub> what do you do?
[02:07] <CptBley> idk
[02:07] <jimi_> anyone here use webcamstudio? i added a source and set the output to video loopback, but it's not showing as a camera in chrome or firefox
[02:07] <CptBley> reboot?
[02:07] <Beldar> CptBley, HOw do you get to XP, and do you have more than one HD?
[02:08] <CptBley> I have one HD and to get to Xp I restart the computer and select XP in the boot menu
[02:09] <Beldar> CptBley, we are going in circles here, you do not know how you doing anything, nor have you really given a clear description of the problem.
[02:09] <Beldar> you're*
[02:09] <CptBley> I can't give a clear description if i don't know what the fuck is going on
[02:10] <Beldar> !language | CptBley
[02:10] <Beldar> CptBley, I don't ever help people who swear we are done.
[02:11] <CptBley> Well I am sorry, but this is annoying me. Nobody is helping, they are just demanding to know more and I am trying to give more info but I don't know whats going on
[02:13] <CptBley> Please can someone who is noob friendly help
[02:13] <CptBley> because I am getting really annoyed
[02:15] <DIL> CptBley, |  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[02:15] <CptBley> thats not it I have a command line interface with the prefix grub>
[02:16] <CptBley> I don't know what this is
[02:16] <Beldar> DIL, This was identified as a wubi install, there is no grub fix.
[02:17] <CptBley> look I'm 12 I am not geek I just want my computer going again
[02:27] <CptBley> Help
[02:27] <CptBley> !language
[02:27] <CptBley> kwl
[02:28] <bambam> CptBley: just ask your question here
[02:28] <CptBley> Well
[02:28] <CptBley> I booted to windows from the Boot Menu
[02:28] <CptBley> And it loaded XP
[02:28] <CptBley> Then it started deleting files from the file system.
[02:29] <CptBley> I then restarted and booted into ubuntu 12.04 LTS from the boot menu and it appeared with a command line interface with the prefix grub>
[02:29] <CptBley> what is this and how do I fix it
[02:31] <CptBley> help
[02:31] <jonno11> I'm having trouble getting logs, /var/log/messages is empty - as is /var/log/syslog. `ps aux | grep syslog` shows it's running, and `logger "Test"` does nothing. Any ideas where I'm going wrong?
[02:31] <CptBley> did you get my questions
[02:33] <CptBley> ;(
[02:33] <hassen> lmfao at myself...running XP in vbox in ubuntu..how funny
[02:35] <SchrodingersScat> hassen: how else would you run xp?
[02:37] <hassen> SchrodingersScat, i don't like your question,go away
[02:37]  * hassen SIGTERMs SchrodingersScat 
[02:37] <CptBley> HELP ME PLEASE
[02:37] <Beldar> CptBley, This user on the ubuntu forums is the only wubi support I have seen, make a thread on the forums have wubi in the header and describe the problem and your end goal. http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=946783
[02:37] <CptBley> No I hate this
[02:37] <CptBley> I hate ubuntu
[02:37] <CptBley> I hate everything
[02:37] <mrlesmithjr> then reformat and get rid of it
[02:38] <CptBley> HOW
[02:39] <mrlesmithjr> at least do this http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/03/10/restore-the-windows-bootloader-to-mbr-after-dual-booting-with-linux/
[02:39] <Beldar> CptBley, XP is still there, calm down and post a thread for help.
[02:39] <CptBley> I need UBUNTU
[02:39] <mrlesmithjr> and get out of here if you hate linux because of not understanding
[02:39] <CptBley> Because I run a MINECRAFT SERVER
[02:39] <CptBley> which is DOWN
[02:39] <CptBley> Because nobody helps me
[02:40] <CptBley> This is why I hate ubuntu
[02:40] <CptBley> Because its just annoying
[02:40] <Beldar> CptBley, you need help from a wubi support helper, there is only really one.
[02:40] <jonno11> CptBley: It would help if you weren't a pain in the ass
[02:40] <jonno11> CptBley: What's your question?
[02:40] <CptBley> I can't do this
[02:40] <jonno11> Ok
[02:40] <CptBley> This is horrible
[02:41] <CptBley> All I want to do is log into ubuntu and people want me to wait weeks to talk to someone who may not even be able to help
[02:41] <jonno11> CptBley: I don't get your question.
[02:41] <CptBley> No neither does everyone but me
[02:42] <mrlesmithjr> it sounds like he tried to dual boot win/ubuntu the grub loader is not finding his ubuntu partition therefore dropping him to a grub loader
[02:42] <Beldar> CptBley, Hardly anyone here uses wubi, and you have removed file that you have not even identified. Wubi is the last thing you should have been using
[02:42] <KI7MT> jonno11, windows trashed the mbr, and he's stuck at the grub boot prompt, probably needs to re-inatall grub
[02:43] <CptBley> I didn't use wubi
[02:43] <CptBley> Im not stuck at the grub boot prompt I'm in a terminal interface
[02:43] <CptBley> I didn't use wubi
[02:43] <mrlesmithjr> that is your grub loader
[02:43] <Beldar> CptBley, you said you did "<CptBley> it is a wubi install"
[02:43] <CptBley> I used an .iso opener
[02:43] <KI7MT> You said earlier grub promt
[02:43] <CptBley> I didn't think there was a difference
[02:44] <CptBley> its a command line interface
[02:44] <CptBley> I used a iso opener and installed it using that
[02:44] <KI7MT> CptBley, Quote: I then restarted and booted into ubuntu 12.04 LTS from the boot menu and it appeared with a command line interface with the prefix grub>
[02:44] <xangua> CptBley: so you used wubi
[02:44] <CptBley> yeah
[02:44] <CptBley> idk
[02:44] <mrlesmithjr> what you need to do it follow the link i put out and reload the windows mbr and get rid of grub. then go grab virtualbox or something and run ubuntu there
[02:45] <mrlesmithjr> great for a newbie
[02:45] <CptBley> I have important files on my ubuntu
[02:45] <KI7MT> Im sure you ahve a backup right?
[02:45] <CptBley> no
[02:45] <mrlesmithjr> so you don't hose up your windows install and come in here griping about how much you hate something becuase of the lack of understanding when everyone here is trying to help but you whine
[02:45] <KI7MT> Well that's the first lesson learned now isnt' it.
[02:46] <CptBley> -_-
[02:46] <CptBley> Excuse me but I shouldn't have had to back up
[02:46] <mrlesmithjr> WTF!
[02:46] <somsip> CptBley: and that's lesson #2
[02:46] <CptBley> for gods sake
[02:46] <mrlesmithjr> should have 3 backups :)
[02:46] <Beldar> mrlesmithjr, swearing or acronyms of are not allowed
[02:46] <CptBley> is there a way I can recover the files in wondows
[02:47] <somsip> CptBley: did you install ubuntu on it's own partition?
[02:47] <CptBley> idk
[02:47] <CptBley> I don't know anything about computers
[02:47] <somsip> CptBley: so that's where it goes from wanting to help you to you making it difficult.
[02:47] <KI7MT> Indeed.
[02:48] <CptBley> I don't think I did
[02:48] <CptBley> because I could go into host in ubuntu and get all my files from windows
[02:49] <somsip> CptBley: you mean, when you booted to ubuntu you could access windows files? But you are now asking if you can recover ubuntu files from windows, yes?
[02:49] <CptBley> yes
[02:49] <somsip> CptBley: so can you boot into windows in any way?
[02:50] <CptBley> somsip: Yes
[02:50] <KI7MT> The answer to that is yes, but it's way beyond the scope of this channel
[02:51] <somsip> CptBley: ISTR there is something that can be installed in Windows that allows linux partitions to be mounted and read. But you will need to search it. Something like' ext4 from windows' might get you started
[02:53] <shreezbot_> Is there a way to run a vhd created in Microsoft Hyper-V in Linux?
[02:54] <KI7MT> shreezbot_, you could look into virtualbox-fuse, but it's not stright forward.
[02:56] <shreezbot_> Cool!  Thanks for the info!  :)
[02:56] <shreezbot_> And the warning!
[02:57] <shreezbot_> I'm running on Windows 2012 now with Hyper-V, and I'm working on a plan to get away from Windows on my homeserver and migrate evertyhing to Ubuntu...  :)
[02:58] <KI7MT> shreezbot_, What Iv'e read in the past, it's not straight forward, and doesn't work for all configurations, so don't hold your breathe.
[03:00] <shreezbot_> Well, given the information you've given me, I'm just going to forgo the idea of attempting to run my VMs altogether.  I see no reason to virtualize with Ubuntu anyway...  :)
[03:01] <shreezbot_> I can run all of the applications I need for my homeserver (and then some) right on my Ubuntu instance.
[03:01] <darius93> anyone know why when I do iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT && iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT && iptables -A INPUT DROP  that  i cant ping a server
[03:01] <shreezbot_> This is just new territory for me as I really don't know anything about Linux...
[03:01] <shreezbot_> I'm a Windows admin by trade, but I'm moving away from it.
[03:01] <somsip> shreezbot_: it's more than likely that you can, but difficult to guarantee in the case that you're using something uncommon
[03:02] <KI7MT> shreezbot_, It's good for testing, and allot of admins run full farms in VM, so there's nothing wrong with it, just converting from one flavor to another can be a pain.
[03:03] <CptBley> How can I completely remove ubuntu from the systejm
[03:03] <shreezbot_> Where is the preferred location to install things in Linux?
[03:03] <somsip> !fhs | shreezbot_
[03:04] <Beldar> CptBley, look for it in control panel remove apps in the admin account
[03:04] <CptBley> Ah thats another problem
[03:04] <jmgk> !in
[03:04] <CptBley> When I try to boot to windows now, it reboots the computer
[03:04] <CptBley> so this computer is shot isn't it
[03:05] <shreezbot_> Nice!  You guys are so helpful!  :)
[03:05] <KI7MT> CptBley, it depends on how Ubuntu was installed initially, and how you want the computer to be configured afterwards.
[03:05] <somsip> CptBley: you may be able to recover it, but you need patience and perseverence
[03:06] <CptBley> somsip then I'm stuffed
[03:06] <Beldar> CptBley, Hard to say if the XP is not booting now you would want ##windows for help, it was working.
[03:06] <somsip> CptBley: if you have no patience and are not prepared to persevere, possibly yes
[03:06] <KI7MT> I would have a serious look at re-installing Grub before throwing in the towel.
[03:06] <CptBley> I don't know how KI7MT
[03:07] <Beldar> somsip, This sounds like a wubi install would you agree?
[03:08] <somsip> Beldar: I was busy through the first part of the OP reporting the problem. It's really not clear to me
[03:08] <Beldar> CptBley, Do you have a ubuntu disc/usb to bootr?
[03:08] <CptBley> No
[03:09] <CptBley> I used a virtual drive to mount the iso and installed it using that
[03:09] <KI7MT> Me either, but getting to the grub> prompt made be thing dual boot, but if it's Wubi, grub not the problem for sure.
[03:10] <Beldar> CptBley, One of the problems here is determining the type of install, if a wubi no grub reinstall will fix this so, if you can at the least get a boot to XP or a boot to a ubuntu disc we are stuck.
[03:10] <Beldar> can't*
[03:10] <ryanpdg1> anyone have any experience with wireless drivers? I'm having a little trouble getting my laptop to use something...
[03:11] <Beldar> ryanpdg1, Identify the wifi hardware at the least and describe the problem.
[03:11] <Beldar> to the channel
[03:11] <Beldar> CptBley, Ah, a virtual I wondered since you did mention windows as a host.
[03:12] <ryanpdg1> yeah... sorry...  lspci -vvnn | grep 14e4
[03:12] <ryanpdg1> 0b:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN [14e4:4311] (rev 01)
[03:12] <CptBley> ? beldar
[03:12] <Beldar> !broadcom | ryanpdg1
[03:12] <Beldar> CptBley, What virtual ap did you use?
[03:12] <Beldar> app*
[03:12] <CptBley> Uhm
[03:13] <CptBley> DaemonX I think
[03:13] <CptBley> daemon tools lite
[03:13] <CptBley> Thats what it is
[03:14] <jimi_> what is the name of the app terminal that  ubuntu ships with? for some reason i only have xterm
[03:14] <jmgk> jimi_:  thats it
[03:14] <jmgk> :)
[03:15] <jmgk> jimi_:  they call it a bunch of names but xterm means terminal or x terminal I think
[03:15] <KI7MT> jimi_, Gnome Terminal
[03:15] <jimi_> jmgk, no, xterm is the OLD school one, without tab support etc
[03:15] <somsip> !info gnome-terminal
[03:15] <jmgk> oh
[03:15] <Beldar> CptBley, If you can get windows booted it can be removed if needed, You probably should ask in ##windows on getting XP back up.
[03:15] <jimi_> ahh, its called gnome-terminal, thanks
[03:15] <jmgk> yeah you can download it I guess
[03:15] <KI7MT> jimi_, may also like Guake ..
[03:15] <jimi_> ty
[03:15] <jmgk> but its weird getting 2 terminals
[03:18] <V8Energy> my vps got hacked recently. who ever hacked it, used up all of my bandwidth. I obtained access to my vps again and I am just trying to figure out if they installed some kind of a server that streams something and uses up my bandwidth? here's what netstat shows: https://gist.github.com/slavajacobson/f683b0ccb6fa836e7a2b
[03:18] <V8Energy> does it look right?
[03:20] <Terrabull> reboot
[03:22] <ejv> hi guys, what are the benefits of moving from 32bit to 64bit, in addition to of course, being able to address more memory natively, without needing PAE?
[03:22] <SchrodingersScat> V8Energy: why not netstat -put ?
[03:22] <Beldar> ejv, street creds. ;)
[03:23] <KI7MT> V8Energy, you could also use vnstat -h for an hourly view, or -d / -m whatever you like.
[03:23] <V8Energy> https://gist.github.com/slavajacobson/68f77711e26a732e6ce6
[03:23] <V8Energy> I only noticed 2 lines that i didn't recognize from netstat -put
[03:24] <Toyraztory> whats good terminal commands :)
[03:24] <Romance> .
[03:24] <somsip> Toyraztory: man (start with "man man")
[03:24] <V8Energy> KI7MT: netstat -h didn't really do anything
[03:25] <KI7MT> vnstat -h
[03:25] <Beldar> !manual | Toyraztory
[03:25] <kingkong1299> help
[03:25] <somsip> !details | kingkong1299
[03:25] <Heyoka> buenas noches
[03:25] <KI7MT> V8Energy, vnstat -h not netstat -n
[03:25] <somsip> !es | Heyoka
[03:26] <Romance> anyong hesayo
[03:26] <Romance> !kr | Romance
[03:27] <kingkong1299> i'm running Ubuntu 12.10 and I tried installing Skype from the skype website, after installing the .deb file I have received the following error: skype: error while loading shared libraries: libXss.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:27] <Beldar> kingkong1299, Install from the ubuntu repos
[03:27] <KI7MT> V8Energy, here's a Debian how-too / info page  for network monitoring http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/330
[03:28] <kingkong1299> Beldar, how do I access the Ubuntu repos?
[03:28] <kingkong1299> Do use ubuntu software center, Beldar ?
[03:28] <Romance> kingkong1299: sudo apt-get install skype
[03:28] <somsip> kingkong1299: ISTR skype is in the Partners repo. Is that still right for 12.10?
[03:28] <Beldar> kingkong1299, sudo apt-get install skype or use the ubuntu software center
[03:28] <Novus2> anyone know how to get my razer keyboard working ?
[03:29] <kingkong1299> Thank you Beldar , SomeDamnBody
[03:29] <kingkong1299> somsip, *
[03:29] <Beldar> the ubuntu skype wiki says to use the ubuntu repos always right now
[03:30] <Sach_> Using ubuntu 12.04.  I can see wireless connections, but can't see my home wifi.  I've been using 12.04 for many months and haven't had this issue before.
[03:31] <Toyraztory> thanks beldar
[03:31] <Beldar> no prob
[03:31] <KI7MT> V8Energy, some other tools you may find useful, iftop, bmon, slum, tcptrack .. .. etc.
[03:32] <Beldar> Sach_, Did you try a restart on the router?
[03:32] <Sach_> Beldar: yes.  but the issue is strange because I can pick up the wifi on another computer.
[03:33] <Beldar> Sach_, Yeah I remember.
[03:40] <davidsal> how can i get debugging messages from network manager? im not even getting an error when it fails to connect to a wireless network. it's not an encryption problem. it's an open network.
[03:40] <Beldar> Sach, here is a script and a place to post for additional help. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WirelessTroubleshootingProcedure
[03:41] <Sach> Beldar: thanks. I'll have a look.
[03:42] <st0rmhawk> I think I removed the driver for 1 of my usb ports, how do I get it working again?
[03:42] <st0rmhawk> it isn't broken
[03:43] <st0rmhawk> I remember removing certain usb drivers to figure out which is which and I dont remember how I did it...
[03:43] <Beldar> Sach, I suspect a askubuntu thread might be good with that info too.
[03:44] <Sach> Beldar: Thanks, I'll try that too  :)
[03:44] <jlmarks> Hey folks, I am trying to get an nfs server set up and I seem to be failing
[03:44] <jlmarks> somewhere along the way. I have been following the instructions at:
[03:44] <jlmarks> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-file-system.html
[03:44] <jlmarks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NFSv4Howto
[03:44] <jlmarks> and
[03:44] <FloodBot1> jlmarks: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:45] <Beldar> Sach, There is one user on here often that is good with wifi, the ubuntu forums have a few as well.
[03:46] <st0rmhawk> anybody wanna help me out.............?
[03:47] <st0rmhawk> how do I restore the driver for 1 of my usb ports?
[03:47] <Beldar> !patience | st0rmhawk
[03:48] <st0rmhawk> lol...
[03:49] <such_coins> I'm on xubuntu and it doesn't detect my ethernet network, can anyone help out?
[03:52] <such_coins> can anyone help me?
[03:54] <Beldar> such_coins, Helps if you identify the hardware, run lspci in the terminal and post it to the channel with this inquiry.
[03:54] <such_coins> http://pastebin.com/EwvW62wX
[03:56] <jlmarks> Hey folks, I am trying to get an nfs server set up and I seem to be failing somewhere along the way. I have been following the instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-file-system.html https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NFSv4Howto and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo. I have also written a lot more than this but made the spam-bot twitchy when I attempted to paste it. you can find the walkthrough of my i
[03:56] <jlmarks> in more or less short, though, I can now mount the nfs server, see and access the folder that has my content in it, but the client is unable to see the actual files in that nfs folder.
[03:57] <such_coins> Beldar: in case you didn't see, i posted the link to my lspci results
[03:59] <Beldar> such_coins, sure, not something I'm real up on, I see no ethernet listed as well.
[03:59] <davidsal> how can i get debugging messages from network manager? im not even getting an error when it fails to connect to a wireless network. it's not an encryption problem. it's an open network.
[04:00] <Ascendion> ubuntu 13.10 and Upstart user jobs -- I'm getting job not found when I try to start manually, and the jobs dont start on startup as specified in the job config -- where should I be looking to see whats really happening
[04:02] <such_coins> I'm on xubuntu and it doesn't detect my ethernet network, can anyone help out? Pastebin of relevant info: http://pastebin.com/EwvW62wX (PS if you think you can help me, PLEASE msg me, cause i have to go pee!)
[04:02] <Beldar> !tmi | such_coins lol
[04:02] <supergauntlet> i like how you can pipe
[04:02] <jmgk> lolololol such_coins
[04:02] <supergauntlet> thats great
[04:02] <jmgk> haha
[04:03] <jmgk> !tmi supergauntlet
[04:03] <jmgk> hm
[04:03] <supergauntlet> you gotta pipe
[04:03] <jmgk> ah
[04:03] <supergauntlet> !tmi | jmgk
[04:03] <jmgk> :P
[04:03] <jmgk> hm
[04:05] <apb1963> I can't remember what it's called... but it changes the "skin" or "look" on the various applications... anybody know what it's called?  I think one of them is called "motif", but I don't remember.
[04:06] <such_coins> don't hate guys, it's natural
[04:06] <such_coins> more relevant info: http://pastebin.com/HC6hG2PA
[04:06] <somsip> apb1963: gnome themes?
[04:06] <apb1963> somsip: maybe.... 'cept I'm using KDE.... but it would be something like that I think yeah maybe :)
[04:07] <Beldar> such_coins, heh, no hating just laughing in your general direction.
[04:07] <somsip> apb1963: I only know of gtk motif that had 'motif' in it. Never used KDE
[04:08] <such_coins> Beldar: I was never worried :)
[04:08] <apb1963> somsip:  well I changed something... and then changed it back... and now half  of the applications are using the "new" skin I don't want.
[04:09] <somsip> apb1963: difficult to guess what 'something' was. Maybe the KDE channel if no one else here knows
[04:09] <apb1963> somsip: and I can't remember what or where I changed it... I thought it had to do with the desktop but I've been in there a half dozen times since then and either something broke or that's just not it.
[04:09] <Ascendion> ubuntu 13.10 and Upstart user jobs -- I'm getting job not found when I try to start manually, and the jobs dont start on startup as specified in the job config -- where should I be looking to see whats really happening
[04:09] <apb1963> somsip: yeah, that's my next stop... it's just usually so dead there.
[04:10] <apb1963> somsip: thanks for the thoughts
[04:10] <terrasapien> fcdll
[04:13] <doug__> what does anybody think of conky?
[04:13] <jlmarks> I have battled the nefarious NFS to a standstill. I can mount the server from a client, I can even see a folder that is in the location. However I am unable to see the contents of that folder. full details here:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6597813/  any assistance is appreciated. (also please throw me a pm if I do not acknowledge your response)
[04:13] <somsip> doug__: this is a support channel rather than one for opinions. Try #ubuntu-offtopic or just ask if you have a specifc question
[04:16] <such_coins> gentlemen, i regret to inform you that i have wronged. I came here seeking help without even considering the option that I may have just been stupid. The other end of my ethernet cable wasn't plugged in. Thanks you, and goodnight.
[04:16]  * jlmarks golfclaps
[04:16] <d3fc0n> what's the difference between /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/resolv.conf.standard?
[04:17]  * somsip pass a facepalm to such_coins
[04:18] <jmgk> lol somsip
[04:18] <jmgk> that was random
[04:19] <somsip> jmgk: it seemed like he needed one...
[04:19] <jmgk> heh
[04:21] <Ascendion> ubuntu 13.10 and Upstart user jobs -- I'm getting job not found when I try to start manually, and the jobs dont start on startup as specified in the job config -- where should I be looking to see whats really happening
[04:24] <ObrienDave> such_coins, KUDOS for admitting the error of your ways ;)
[04:25] <such_coins> thanks ObrienDave, but my journey hasn't ended yet
[04:25] <such_coins> it appears to detect my ethernet network, but I can't connect to it (emphesis on the I)
[04:26] <such_coins> also ObrienDave I don't live and learn. The first thing I did was come back and message jimjiang asking what to do.
[04:26] <glitsj16> Ascendion: where did you put the user job files? i think supported locations for those might have changed
[04:27] <Ascendion> ~/.init
[04:27] <such_coins> *jimarks, not jimjiang. Tab is useless when there are a 100 people who's names start with jim.
[04:28] <Ascendion> everything I've been finding on google is 2-3 releases back :(
[04:28] <glitsj16> Ascendion: try putting them at ~/.config/upstart
[04:29] <glitsj16> Ascendion: did you look at http://upstart.ubuntu.com/ yet? especially the cookbook section
[04:29] <jsm> exit
[04:31] <Ascendion> glitsj16 -- change made -- restarting
[04:31] <Ascendion> and yes I was all over that, and all over google
[04:32] <glitsj16> Ascendion: well, it's in there that user jobs are deprecated and changes to session jobs, stumbled over that as well recently
[04:33] <Ascendion> ok -- so I got to set it up to run out of /etc/init ??
[04:34] <glitsj16> Ascendion: you can still set it up in your home, but there might be name collisions --> http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#session-job
[04:35] <Ascendion> reading
[04:36] <ningu> I have a xen vps on 13.04 that I want to upgrade to 13.10. upgrading is easy but it still picks the old kernel and not the new one. any idea why?
[04:37] <Ascendion> ok -- so I can create a single job in /etc/init that launches the init for my "user jobs"
[04:38] <ningu> I'm happy to provide more info, but I'm not sure what would be relevant.
[04:39] <ObrienDave> ningu, have you tried dist-upgrade?
[04:40] <glitsj16> Ascendion: as i'm pretty much the only user on my machine i put them at /etc/init, can't confirm what you state would work, but testing is the road to enlightenment no? :)
[04:40] <ningu> ObrienDave: the new kernel packages are installed. but they are not being selected by grub.
[04:41] <ningu> and if I uninstall the old kernel to try to force it, then I can't boot
[04:41] <ObrienDave> ningu, have you tried update grub?
[04:41] <ningu> yes, no luck
[04:41] <ningu> it still picks 3.8
[04:41] <Beldar> ningu, More than one Linux install?
[04:41] <ningu> Beldar: huh?
[04:42] <ningu> on this machine, no...
[04:42] <Beldar> ningu, any dual booting?
[04:42] <ningu> it's a xen vps
[04:42] <Beldar> ningu, and it owns the grub to boot it?
[04:42] <Ascendion> glitsj16 -- I'm the only user (cloud VM) but all the stuff I want to run (70 app servers) is in my default user account, and I want it to run restricted and in the directories where I have them set up
[04:44] <ningu> Beldar: what do you mean it owns the grub?
[04:44] <ningu> as far as I know...
[04:44] <KI7MT> Ascendion, write a script and use cron. Unless they only need to run if the box is rebooted.
[04:45] <ningu> xen is not like openvz, there is a kernel per box
[04:45] <glitsj16> Ascendion: if i understand the cookbook section on session jobs $HOME/.config/upstart/ should work, there's no mention of putting anything in /etc/init to (trigger' those, but i'm still learning upstart so this is just a guess
[04:46] <Beldar> ningu, Does the grub menu booting zen have any other OS's showing, it is if the menu is reading the correct OS, since you keep asking questions, basic stuff.
[04:46] <ningu> Beldar: it's a vps, I can't see the grub menu when it boots.
[04:46] <ningu> I can tell you what's in menu.lst
[04:47] <Beldar> ningu, I figured as such, menu.list id grub legacy as well update-grub will not work.
[04:47] <Beldar> is*
[04:48] <Ascendion> glitsj16 -- read down a little further where they talk about non-graphical sessions
[04:49] <Ascendion> THAT is what I need :)
[04:49] <Ascendion> init for users only kicks in when the desktop starts up
[04:50] <KI7MT> ningu, Doesn't Xen VPS use somethign like PyGrub, not the normal Grub, and it's ifs not install, I think you may be hostage to the Host Kernel
[04:50] <ningu> I don't know.
[04:50] <ningu> I've only used kvm before
[04:50] <glitsj16> Ascendion: point taken, that's only supported as of saucy, i don't use that .. and your setup is way more complex, my upstart job files are extremely short and simple heh
[04:50] <Beldar> ningu, You might upgrade that to grub 2 if possible.
[04:51] <Amjad> Hi guys, I'm dual booting Windows 7 and Ubuntu, and while trying to boot into Ubuntu I've been getting the low graphics error for a while now. What could be the reason? :/
[04:51] <Beldar> ningu, There is a #grub channel but it is grub 2 only
[04:51] <ningu> ok, well, I'll ask there
[04:52] <ningu> I just thought it might be something to do with ubuntu's /etc/kernel/postinst.d
[04:52] <jlmarks> Amjad: I get that issue when my partition is full.
[04:52] <Amjad> Is there any way I can resize the partition? :/ I suspected I set the size too low
[04:52] <Beldar> Amjad, missing graphic driver?
[04:53] <Amjad> It worked fine in the beginning, Beldar, but after a while I started seeing that error.
[04:53] <Beldar> Amjad, Ubuntu is in a partition?
[04:53] <Amjad> Yeah, it is
[04:53] <Amjad> And since it's ext (?) it doesn't show up in windows
[04:53] <jlmarks> did you use wubi?
[04:53] <Beldar> Amjad, As long as you are sure a live ubuntu  disc/usb and use gparted to resize and unmount the swap.
[04:53] <KI7MT> ningu, Get in touch with your VPS provider, they can tell if you can upgrade it, and if so, how it's to be done with their config.
[04:54] <Ascendion> glitsj16 -- welp those configs didnt work anyway
[04:54] <Amjad> Um.. I don't recall exactly, jlmarks, but since it's on a partition I probably didn't use it?
[04:54] <Amjad> Hmm, I'll take a look into that, Beldar. Thanks.
[04:54] <ses1984> i have been using 13.10 in a system with nvidia graphics. nvidia graphics burned out and i replaced it with amd, now i can't see anything but a black screen and cursor past the login screen
[04:54] <Beldar> Amjad, You know what a wubi is right?
[04:55] <Amjad> Btw, in case I plan to remove Ubuntu how should I go about it? I have grub 2 as the bootloader right now.
[04:55] <ningu> KI7MT: I just figured it out actually. menu.lst had some non-automatically-generated lines at the top and when I removed them and then re-ran update-grub, it correctly made 3.11.x the default kernel
[04:55] <ningu> looks like it's all good now
[04:55] <jlmarks> wubi is the windows based installer. if it is just on it's own partition, then you can use gparted, but be careful... it can tear up your data if you are not careful
[04:55] <Amjad> Yeah, it's that installer bundled with Ubuntu using which we can install Ubuntu in any of the drives, IIRC
[04:56] <om> )))
[04:56] <KI7MT> ningu, thats good  .. need to test it on reboot as well.
[04:56] <ningu> I did
[04:56] <ningu> that's how i know :)
[04:56] <Beldar> Amjad, You would reinstall the windows bootloader in the mbr if this is not a uefi, and look closer at the description of wubi, it's not bundled with ubuntu anymore and has nothing to do with drives.
[04:57] <KI7MT> ningu, all is good then :-)
[04:57] <Amjad> Um, how do I find out whether or not it's a uefi? Sorry, I'm a total noob at this.
[04:58] <Beldar> jlmarks, YOu can't resize a wubi with gparted it is a file
[04:58] <Ascendion> glitsj16 --  BINGO -- one each shitload of process started :)
[04:58] <glitsj16> Ascendion: you can try #upstart .. ahh, succes :)
[04:58] <Amjad> jlmarks, can I allocate some of the free space from one of my windows drivers to the ubuntu partition using gparted?
[04:59] <Amjad> Beldar, I think he meant the same thing ("as long as it's NOT wubi")
[04:59] <Ascendion> \the previous fail was cause I misnamed a conf file -- once I fixed that its all good :)
[04:59] <Beldar> Amjad, Heh, as long as you know the difference is all that matters.
[05:00] <jlmarks> Beldar: good to know, thank you. (I actually meant that I didn't know how it was set up, so it may be worth looking into).
[05:00] <glitsj16> Ascendion: sweet, i've much to learn on upstart but it's powerfull, enjoy
[05:00] <spam6> Hello! Can anyone help me get my android connecting to my computer? I cannot see the pictures on it!
[05:00] <Beldar> jlmarks, No biggie, heh.
[05:00] <Amjad> Although I'm pretty sure, I'll just take a look around in the drives for the wubi folder to see if I installed using wubi. That should be enough, right?
[05:01] <jlmarks> Amjad: if you just installed ubuntu recently, I would just reinstall it. If it has been up and running for a while you should probably look and see if something is growing to fill your space. (I had this error log one time that grew to over 45GB... just saying)
[05:02] <jlmarks> if you installed using wubi you can go to windows -> add/remove programs, and "uninstall" ubuntu
[05:02] <Beldar> Amjad, It would be in the windows control panel add remove, but the partition it is on should be a ext type to be a regular install, not a ntfs
[05:02] <Beldar> add remove if a wubi
[05:05] <Amjad> Back
[05:05] <Amjad> sorry, I got disconnected
[05:05] <Amjad> Did I miss any messages?
[05:06] <Beldar> Amjad, I was goig to give you this link if it is a wubi https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeandDuplicateWubiDisk  You can move a wubi to a regular install if needed as well.
[05:06] <Beldar> just info if needed
[05:06] <Amjad> How do I find out for certain whether I have wubi or not? Just making sure
[05:07] <Beldar> Amjad, It would be in the windows control panel add remove, but the partition it is on should be a ext type to be a regular install, not a ntfs
[05:07] <Amjad> FYI, I didn't find wubi folder in any of the drives
[05:07] <Beldar> Amjad, not named a wubi in the files I believe.
[05:07] <Amjad> Orite, I'll check control panel
[05:08] <spam6> so anybody have any tips for making my Droid phone connect to the computer?
[05:08] <Beldar> spam6, what ubuntu release?
[05:08] <spam6> 13.10
[05:09] <Beldar> spam6, should show when plugged in have you looked in the home side panel.
[05:09] <Beldar> spam6, Make sure you have the usb debug ticked on the droid.
[05:09] <auto> autocapncrunch
[05:09] <spam6> Beldar, on the droid it says USB debugging connected and also Connected as a media device byt i see nothijng on the computer
[05:10] <Amjad> No sign of wubi in add or remove, so I guess I installed in a separate ext partition
[05:10] <auto> 88
[05:11] <auto> oi oi
[05:11] <Mace268> is there any DE other than Unity that's officially supported?
[05:12] <Beldar> spam6, you look in the home panel?
[05:12] <auto> gnome?
[05:12] <darkangel> Does any 1 know why GKrellM says there is 3 Users on and i only have 1 user on this computer and im not connected to any other computer
[05:12] <spam6> Beldar, it's not on the dock or in the file browser sidebar
[05:12] <Beldar> spam6, dock?
[05:13]  * Amjad slaps Amjad around a bit with a large trout
[05:13] <Amjad> Beldar, could you have a look at my last message?
[05:14] <Beldar> Amjad, the trout, or no wubi in add remove, lol
[05:14] <Amjad> lol wubi
[05:14] <Amjad> sorry, I'm new with IRC, was checking out what that slap thing was :P
[05:15] <Beldar> Amjad, looks good use a live disc/usb to resize it, you will see it there as a ext type partition if it is a regular install. Post a screen shot if you need some help with resizing the windows as part of this.
[05:16] <Beldar> spam6, Make sure the droid is plugged straight into the computer.
[05:16] <Amjad> Orite, thanks. Btw do I use the ubuntu live disk or some other bootable disk with partition tools?
[05:16] <auto> any tricks to format a usb to FAT on linux for windows bios flash (for separate computer)
[05:16] <auto> my partition editor will only format to FAT 32 not FAT
[05:17] <somsip> Mace268: Try this http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/derivatives
[05:17] <Amjad> And is there a wa to make it wrk without a CD. I just recalled I don't have a functioning cd drive right now :|
[05:18] <somsip> Mace268: slightly prettier http://is.gd/G8Q5oW
[05:18] <jlmarks> Amjad: sudo apt-get install gparted
[05:18] <Mace268> thanks
[05:18] <spam6> Beldar, yes, it is. also i tried all ports and a different cable
[05:18] <jlmarks> then after you install it: gksudo gparted to run it.
[05:18] <Amjad> Btw what is the recommended partition ize for ubuntu 12/13?
[05:18] <auto> what's difference between FAT vs FAT32
[05:18] <Beldar> Amjad, you have to use a live medis to resize the ubuntu
[05:19] <Beldar> media
[05:19] <Danato> one is fatter
[05:19] <neteng> I think with FAT you are limited to 4GB file size
[05:19] <Amjad> where do I run the commands though, jlmarks? I don't have a functioning linux install rightnow.
[05:19] <auto> dynamically allocated
[05:19] <auto> give it what you think you need but it'll only use what you store
[05:19] <neteng> @auto I don't think you will be able to add file over 4GB to a FAT filesystem
[05:20] <Amjad> Beldar: I'll google what that is, thanks
[05:20] <duhamel> hi all. i am wondering about installation partitions for 13.10 on ssd with efi. do i need to put efi boot partition at the beggining of drive?
[05:20] <jlmarks> you will either need a live cd, or install the live version on a flash drive and boot from that.
[05:20] <auto> don't choose fixed size
[05:20] <auto> well my system won't format usb to FAT just FAT32
[05:20] <Beldar> duhamel, This apple or windows efi?
[05:20] <auto> i'm trying to flash bios to windows 7 on an acer netbook
[05:21] <auto> and my working comp is backbox3.09 based on ubuntu 12.04
[05:21] <auto> it's a tiny netbook no disk drive
[05:21] <auto> has to be usb
[05:21] <Beldar> auto, fat32 worked on all my bios flashes
[05:21] <ROPA> good day all, is there anyway to 'burn' the image file of the live CD into a harddrive partition so it can install operating systems quicker?? Booting and running from a live CD or usb flash drive is horribly slow.
[05:22] <such_coins> lol that didn't work
[05:22] <duhamel> Beldar: neither. It's just a new mobo with efi bios.
[05:22] <such_coins> jim***** msg me (i forget the rest of your username)
[05:23] <auto> ok i must have a filename issue
[05:23] <auto> it's not the type of usb just got the stick its 8G and formats to FAT32 no problem
[05:23] <Beldar> !uefi | duhamel
[05:23] <ralliasbrok> so.. the mini installer doesnt recognize my windows partition, but dropping to shell i know the base system recognizes it... what can i do?
[05:23] <such_coins> jimjiang jimmyff jimlong
[05:24] <auto> thanks for the info. much obliged
[05:24] <auto> i also have a (rc-108) error on my linux
[05:24] <auto> when i use virtualbox to try to load an iso
[05:24] <auto> it never works
[05:24] <auto> the image is good but the program said to update kernel headers, i did using synaptic
[05:24] <auto> still same error
[05:25] <auto> dkms -- shit i already have those packages and their up to date
[05:25] <Beldar> ROPA, You can have the iso on the computer and boot it with grub, not sure if that speeds it up though.
[05:25] <auto> i'm confused why virtualbox isn't working on backbox3.09 but compiz even works great for graphics in the desktop
[05:26] <duhamel> I do understand what UEFI is, it's hard for me to get out everything in a breif chat line.Thank both of you. back to reading.
[05:27] <grendal_prime> ok this is kinda werid
[05:29] <grendal_prime> i set up bridge,  so say my network is 192.168.1.0  (the physical network that everything in the office is on.)   so my bridge is running on an ubuntu 12.04 kvmhost and it is going to use a static ip of 192.168.1.250
[05:29] <such_coins> can someone help me out? someone named jim**** (i forget the rest) was helping me here, but i disconnected. Now I can't find him (i messaged all the jims, none of them responded)
[05:30] <grendal_prime> so i create my first vm, and it is connected to the br0 bridge, i give it an ip of 192.168.1.249
[05:30] <duhamel> I guess my question related more to the read/writes of partitioning with a /boot  or just and swap and stuff.
[05:30] <ROPA> Beldar, thanks. so I just drag and drop the iso onto an empty partition, then run sudo grub-update???
[05:30] <grendal_prime> now...i can get out to the internet..(and everything else on that network) but the other machines cannot see that machine..is that normal?
[05:31] <duhamel> *...just root
[05:31] <such_coins> auuuggg... does anyone here have logs of up to 30 minutes ago? I need to find the guy who was helping me
[05:31] <jackob> hello, after system update, I have a problems with nvidia hardware
[05:31] <grendal_prime> duhamel i just got here as well..what is the problem?
[05:32] <grendal_prime> sorry that was ment for such_coins
[05:32] <somsip> such_coins: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/12/19/%23ubuntu.txt
[05:32] <Beldar> ROPA, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[05:32] <grendal_prime> such_coins, what is the problem about?
[05:32] <such_coins> thanks somsip
[05:33] <such_coins> grendal_prime: xubuntu won't connect to my ethernet network
[05:33] <ROPA> Beldar, thanks. so much, I'll check it out now.
[05:33] <Beldar> ROPA, No problem, yeah would be nice if as you asked.
[05:33] <grendal_prime> oh crap im in the wrong channel..sorry guys...that was all virt stuff..
[05:34] <such_coins> so the guy helping me, jimarks, isn't here any more
[05:34] <star_prone> Hi
[05:34] <duhamel> grendal_prime: no problem just looking to optimize my ssd life right from install. i know i should avoid swap and leave unallocated space but was wondering about boot partition. its a UEFI bios and wasnt sure if i should give it an efi boot or what
[05:34] <star_prone> I'm using xubuntu 13.10 and I have a lot of problems with teamviewer
[05:35] <star_prone> it keeps crashing and i'm not able to connect in this manner
[05:35] <jackob> join #blender
[05:36] <star_prone> since I think I'm not the only one having this problem, I want to run a script that will run constantly on the machine and listen to log messages from teamviewer, and when it detects an error to restart teamviewer
[05:37] <star_prone> the only problem with this approach is that I don't really know how to do it
[05:37] <grendal_prime> what are you using team viewer for.
[05:37] <star_prone> can you please recommend something to begin with
[05:37] <star_prone> for remote control
[05:37] <such_coins> how do you search for a username on freenode? Is it possible?
[05:37] <grendal_prime> (dont get me wrong i use it to..but only for demonstartions...
[05:38] <grendal_prime> star_prone
[05:38] <star_prone> yes
[05:38] <grendal_prime> um,  there are several better ways of doing that with nix systems
[05:38] <grendal_prime> like...ssh,  if you need a desktop,  vnc, or xrdp,
[05:38] <star_prone> and what would those be?
[05:38] <star_prone> ohhh
[05:38] <star_prone> you're saying alternatives to teamviewer
[05:39] <star_prone> ok
[05:39] <star_prone> I get it
[05:39] <apb1963> such_coins: I think you meant jlmarks but I don't think he was the one helping you
[05:39] <grendal_prime> ya...
[05:39] <star_prone> but that's not the point
[05:39] <apb1963> such_coins: unless it was privately
[05:39] <such_coins> we were PM'ing
[05:39] <grendal_prime> well it sortof is,  your talking about using something that is...well pretty buggy even when it is running great
[05:39] <star_prone> let's suppose for a moment that I want to use teamviewer because of its sky blue
[05:40] <star_prone> I understand your point of view
[05:40] <star_prone> but please don't get me wrong
[05:40] <grendal_prime> skyblue the internet provider
[05:41] <star_prone> (I was referring to the colour of the intergace)
[05:41] <grendal_prime> anything that is not a server and robust design is going to have a problem with satelite coneectivity
[05:41] <star_prone> *interface
[05:41] <star_prone> getting back to what I was trying to say, let's suppose I want to solve this problem as an exercise
[05:42] <grendal_prime> i dont know how to help you with that.
[05:42] <xpirator>  Is there any commercial product or library to generate a secure license key??
[05:42] <star_prone> I just want to create a program that will run like a service and that will restart teamviwer when needed
[05:42] <grendal_prime> you may be doing alot of bad ideas.
[05:42] <grendal_prime> xpirator, ?
[05:43] <grendal_prime> what does that mean?
[05:43] <star_prone> :))) thanks! I'm stupid, what can I say?
[05:43] <grendal_prime> why would you want a comercial app to do that.
[05:43] <star_prone> this argument wasn't suppose to happen
[05:43] <grendal_prime> star_prone,  no i would not assume that.
[05:44] <star_prone> and I don't want talk about that
[05:44] <xpirator> i think commercial one is more secure than open source's
[05:44] <grendal_prime> if you need remote access to a machine i know how to do that..and very well..thats what i do...
[05:44] <grendal_prime> xpirator, hahahahahahah
[05:44] <grendal_prime> ok
[05:44] <star_prone> grendal_prime: I know how to that to
[05:44] <star_prone> but just for a moment
[05:44] <star_prone> A SINGLE MOMENT
[05:44] <xpirator> i mean... actually that's our boss's thought.
[05:44] <star_prone> a second in our lifetime
[05:44] <grendal_prime> you would use cron more than likely
[05:45] <star_prone> let's just assume that I want to use that
[05:45] <grendal_prime> every 60 seconds look for a pid.
[05:45] <star_prone> for no partivular reason
[05:45] <KI7MT> xpirator, maybe a bit of clarification is needed, what kind of secure key are you talking about, SW lic, PGP type, SSH type what ?
[05:45] <grendal_prime> or search for the running instance ...if not there have it fire up teamviewer server again.
[05:45] <grendal_prime> look into cron
[05:46] <grendal_prime> or..there is one based on file change...i think its inocron...
[05:46] <grendal_prime> something like that
[05:46] <xpirator> we find a way to stop using our product when key is expired
[05:46] <star_prone> you know... this way of solving things... "use another app"... will never get linux as a seriour competitor for other "click, next, finish" OSes
[05:46] <grendal_prime> you can use...bash for that star_prone, or php, or perl, but you will more than likely wind up triggering it with cron.
[05:47] <xpirator> KI7MT, we find a way to stop using our product when key is expired
[05:47] <grendal_prime> star_prone,   the way of solving anything in linux is use the app
[05:47] <grendal_prime> right app that is
[05:48] <grendal_prime> remote management of machines is a huge portion of linux.  there are allot of really good existing applications for manageing remote machines.  You dont need access to a desktop to do that in most cases
[05:48] <xpirator> is there any recommendable product or library to provide a robust algorithm to generate activation keys?
[05:48] <KI7MT> xpirator, thanks that cleard up allot of questions
[05:48] <grendal_prime> however,  most of the time you can do what you need to do with ssh and rdp,xrdp,vnc.
[05:49] <grendal_prime> and really the best way to do what you are doing is via a vpn phone home type system
[05:49] <isosceles> GIMP 2.8.6 (ubuntu 13.10) closes upon selecting fill. Any ideas?
[05:49] <xpirator> grendal_prime:
[05:49] <grendal_prime> yes
[05:49] <xpirator> sorry... i mean...
[05:51] <xpirator> our product has no need ssh things, it's kind of daemon. if it installed in the machine, it runs forever.
[05:52] <xpirator> we want to provide our product to the clients as an evaluation
[05:53] <such_coins> can anyone help me?
[05:53] <KI7MT> xpirator, I dont know the best solution for you specifically, but thee millions of servers world wide using open source encryption, it's pretty robust if used properly.
[05:53] <Beldar> xpirator, Can you show how this relates to ubuntu in any way?
[05:53] <KI7MT> Beldar, good point :-)
[05:53] <jackob> Help, I did the system update, and now having issues with video rendering performance
[05:54] <xpirator> Beldar: it runs on ubuntu like network switch..
[05:54] <xpirator> KI7MT: You're right. I agree with you.
[05:54] <Beldar> xpirator, So you say, but show no proof.
[05:54] <such_coins> I'm currently having problems connecting to my ethernet network on Xubuntu. Images can be seen here: http://imgur.com/a/Upqui (when I click "wired connection 1" it looks like the second iamge for a couple minutes, then nothing happens and it goes back to screenshot number 1). Relevant info can be seen here: http://pastebin.com/xr1xyNGw
[05:55] <jackob> i think the reason is the virtualbox drivers modules which were upraded as well and messed up nouveau somehow
[05:55] <xpirator> K17MT, then can you recommend any open source encryption library?
[05:55] <grendal_prime> xpirator,  sorry my comments were for star_prone
[05:57] <grendal_prime> xpirator, as far as your comercial solution you are looking for im sure there are several out there.  They are going to use something probably less secure but supported and probaly based on openssl and modified.
[05:57] <grendal_prime> and an older version.
[05:57] <such_coins> can anyone help me with some ethernet problems?
[05:59] <grendal_prime> xpirator, it will more than likely be cripled so as to charge more for more encription.  (ie, the encryption level will be limited not in potential just in enforcement)
[05:59] <john2x> do authorized_keys rely on the client's IP address? I can't seem to connect to my server when I got home.. getting
[05:59] <KI7MT> xpirator, OpenSSL, Crypto++, Cryptlib take your pick.
[05:59] <john2x> s/getting//
[06:00] <grendal_prime> john2x, ?
[06:00] <Oku7> I've been trying to get tightvncserver setup on ubuntu 13.10, running into issues where clients connect and see a grey (or whatever color it is that i set) screen, with a solid X cursor
[06:00] <grendal_prime> Oku7, you need to set the session to use for the user
[06:00] <john2x> grendal_prime: I can't connect to my remote server due to publickey denied error.. happened since I got home.. strange
[06:00] <grendal_prime> look into...xsession
[06:01] <xpirator> grendal_prime: yes, we don't need encription, we need a way of deactivation of evaluation copy.
[06:01] <Oku7> grendal_prime:  you mean inside .vnc/xserver ?
[06:01] <john2x> I can still connect via the root user, and I checked the authorized_keys but my public key is still there.
[06:01] <Oku7> I've been looking around stack editing xserver configurations for the last 40 minutes
[06:01] <xpirator> KI7MT: thanks, it looks good to generate activation key...
[06:02] <john2x> (root user is only password protected)
[06:02] <such_coins> I'm currently having problems connecting to my ethernet network on Xubuntu. Images can be seen here: http://imgur.com/a/Upqui (when I click "wired connection 1" it looks like the second iamge for a couple minutes, then nothing happens and it goes back to screenshot number 1). Relevant info can be seen here: http://pastebin.com/xr1xyNGw
[06:02] <KI7MT> xpirator, that's beyond the scope fo the channel as what's your asking for is a sw solution for what seems to be a commercial product.
[06:02] <grendal_prime> ya exactly...
[06:03] <grendal_prime> xpirator,  if you used a comercial product and it timed out....see my comment above.
[06:03] <xpirator> KI7MT: I think so. Sorry for that.
[06:03] <xpirator> grendal_prime: which one?
[06:03] <grendal_prime> they do crap like that to get you to pay for things that simply really are not that complicated...and fully supported by most if not all oses...open source encryption is where most commercial productes come from.
[06:04] <Oku7> In ubuntu 12.10, as well as other debian distros, configuring tightvncserver has always been relatively easy, with similar settings
[06:04] <Adie> 1 MB = 1000 kB
[06:04] <xpirator> grendal_prime: um... You're right. I like open source, too.
[06:04] <chinna> 1 MB = 1024 kB
[06:05] <grendal_prime> Oku7, per uses you need to set what desktop environment they will be using
[06:05] <grendal_prime> or..set one for the entire server.
[06:05] <star_prone> grendal_prime: the right app from whose point of view?
[06:05] <Adie> chinna, NOPE
[06:05] <Adie> 1000
[06:05]  * Adie stabs
[06:05] <grendal_prime> mine
[06:05] <Oku7> grendal_prime:  I've seen this answer quite a bit ; http://askubuntu.com/questions/366556/13-10-xrdp-problem-with-gnome-fallback
[06:05] <grendal_prime> aparently...you would like to use the wrong one so i cant help you
[06:07] <grendal_prime> Oku7, http://rbgeek.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/57.jpg
[06:07] <grendal_prime> http://askubuntu.com/questions/172384/vnc-grey-screen-and-start-on-boot-12-04
[06:08] <xpirator> Thanks KI7MT, grendal_prime.
[06:08] <Oku7> grendal_prime:  take a look at http://c-nergy.be/blog/?p=4448
[06:08] <Oku7> the way ubuntu handles vnc (or maybe it's the desktop manager), not sure; changed in 13.04 and again in 13.10
[06:08] <star_prone> first, you helped me earlier by telling me about cron, I was just continuing the argument. I don't want you to help me by telling "use a different app", and then give me examples regarding the right apps. I would've use ssh if that would have been possible
[06:09] <Oku7> grendal_prime:  I'll try the settings from that screenshot however
[06:09] <grendal_prime> actually look at the second link
[06:09] <grendal_prime> i think it has several fixes for it
[06:09] <grendal_prime> both system wide and user specific
[06:09] <grendal_prime> you are trying to use xrdp and this is happening?
[06:10] <grendal_prime> Oku7,  the reason i ask is i have had absolutely NO issues with any xrdp desktops i have set up in the last year.
[06:10] <Oku7> grendal_prime:  I've used both the xstartup scripts in both the first and second answer to that link
[06:10] <grendal_prime> that being said.  I only use LTS
[06:11] <Oku7> I don't think so - ..  I'm using 13.10, and going with tightvncserver
[06:11] <Oku7> could just as easily use a different vnc package however
[06:12] <grendal_prime> well xrdp uses tight...however xrdp behaves very much like windows rdp.  it does not display the active desktop..but the users desktop.
[06:12] <grendal_prime> follow me?
[06:12] <KI7MT> All of the xx-vnx and xrp has allot of overhead, if you sped allot of time administering remote machines, your far better off getting proficient with the terminal.
[06:12] <star_prone> second: this is not about you and me, this is about a general principle. all the apps should work, not just those that we like.
[06:13] <star_prone> can I connect from my phone using tightvnc?
[06:13] <grendal_prime> KI7MT,  much agreed..however..he may be popping desktops to people..for dev or something.
[06:13] <grendal_prime> and if thats the case..i would go with xrdp
[06:14] <Oku7> It's a server that sits in the corner, I use the keyboard/mouse/monitor for my laptop when I sit there, so it's easier to full screen a vnc instance when I need to
[06:14] <grendal_prime> star_prone,   you should pay for a liscense from teamviewer..they will be able to address your issue then
[06:14] <KI7MT> Of the two, using them both locally and long distances, I'd have to sat xrdp was a better performer, but it's up to the user.
[06:14] <grendal_prime> ah...see look into xrdp.
[06:14] <grendal_prime> much quicker...totall easy install
[06:14] <grendal_prime> apt-get install xrdp.
[06:15] <grendal_prime> use remmina and just specify that it is an rdp connection .
[06:15] <grendal_prime> it will run on 3388 i believe.
[06:15] <Oku7> thx
[06:15] <Oku7> .. remmina?
[06:15] <grendal_prime> client to connect from linux..or windows rdp client will work as well
[06:15] <grendal_prime> pretty sure anyway.
[06:15] <KI7MT> One thing to keep in mind, make sure you set the default session to 2D not 3D or even better got to LXDE or Xfce if possible.
[06:16] <star_prone> grendal_prime: are you by any chance linus torvalds? I have heard the same damaging ideas for linux community from him too
[06:16] <grendal_prime> team viewer is a commercial product
[06:16] <grendal_prime> i know this cause i use it.
[06:16] <KI7MT> grendal_prime, yes, xrp to and from win works with xrdp
[06:17] <grendal_prime> ya.. KI7MT  i use that every time i have that situation..and android, rdp client has an option for it.  I do a lot of kvm work from my phone  like that
[06:18] <star_prone> yeah, that's true, but they also have a free version of it
[06:18] <star_prone> why does it work perfectly on other OSes and not on linux
[06:18] <grendal_prime> virtual machines over 50 of them, I can manage them from the monorail or the line at startours at disneyland from my android phone and xrdp.
[06:18] <Oku7> grendal_prime: / KI7MT, that page I found earlier; http://c-nergy.be/blog/?p=4448 outlines fixing 13.10 with XRDP & the xfce desktop..  apparently the gnome-fallback desktop is broken or removed in 13.10
[06:19] <grendal_prime> it does work perfectly on linux for what its designed to do.  and honestly it works perfect on ubuntu lts.
[06:19] <star_prone> we should stop saying "use a different app", and start doing something so that all the apps will work
[06:19] <grendal_prime> i use it very time i have to demonstarte things to clients.
[06:19] <grendal_prime> star_prone, i cant because it is closed source.
[06:19] <KI7MT> That's called Ubuntu QA and launchpad Bugs
[06:20] <grendal_prime> its a commercial product
[06:20] <grendal_prime> you need to talk to them about it.
[06:20] <star_prone> grendal_prime: and you connect to a machine which has teamviewer installed, or the other way around
[06:20] <KI7MT> I referring to, makeing things work  in general, nothign specific.
[06:20] <star_prone> (other OSes are closed source too, but teamviewer wroks perfectly on them)
[06:20] <star_prone> anyway
[06:20] <grendal_prime> i use team viewer to display my desktop to clients. I dont use the server like you are using it because there is no reason to use it for that.
[06:21] <star_prone> I will drop the argument
[06:21] <star_prone> I get your point of view
[06:21] <grendal_prime> i have the correct programs installed that are linux native apps not win addapted apps.
[06:21] <star_prone> you are right, but in my oppinion you biased towards linux
[06:21] <Oku7> grendal_prime:  Are you running LTS for any particular reason?
[06:21] <star_prone> which is not that bad after all
[06:21] <Oku7> why not upgrade to the more recent 13 series
[06:21] <grendal_prime> ya, things like the problem star_prone is experienceing
[06:22] <grendal_prime> i have servers that are required to run LONG TERM SUPPORT.
[06:22] <star_prone> for servers use ssh
[06:22] <star_prone> it's faster and easier
[06:22] <star_prone> :)
[06:22] <KI7MT> star_prone, that's pretty good, we're in a Linux Ubuntu Channel, adds are good most folks here are biased toward Linux :-)
[06:22] <KI7MT> odds are ...
[06:23] <grendal_prime> if i build things on my workstations..i need a seemless interaction.  so i use lts all the way arround
[06:23] <Oku7> Here's a question - via SSH how do I mount an encrypted disk?
[06:23] <star_prone> KI7MT: I have droped the argument
[06:23] <grendal_prime> star_prone,  ssh is amazing. it is also an adhoc vpn and you can tunnel any protocol through it
[06:24] <grendal_prime> including xll
[06:24] <Oku7> thru the GUI, it's shown as mounted, and upon clicking it I enter the passphrase, and can choose until next restart or for ever..
[06:24] <star_prone> yeah, I know.
[06:24] <Oku7> however I'm connected with root privlages, and not seeing anything inside the /media/user directory
[06:24] <grendal_prime> Oku7, i will upgrade to 14.04 when it is released and the distrobution upgrade is ready.
[06:25] <star_prone> it's just that my colleague who is an artist doesn't know that. try explaining him that. or.... yeah, I think I know the answer on this one: FUCK HIM! why does he use a computer in the first place? right?
[06:26] <IdleOne> star_prone: please mind your language
[06:26] <KI7MT> Oku7, Just FYI .. if performance, stabilty and security are top priorities, then LTS to LTS is the only way to go, the interim releases are merely stepping stones to the next LTS.
[06:26] <grendal_prime> they are testing distros basically
[06:27] <grendal_prime> as soon as i start using them i have to upgrade my servers every 6 months..instead of only one time every 2 years
[06:27] <KI7MT> They are better than development releases, but have hi potentials for bugs and security issues.
[06:27] <lkthomas> hey guys
[06:28] <grendal_prime> yes. however KI7MT imagine you have just 4 virtual hosts.
[06:28] <lkthomas> unity launcher showing on right of the screen, how could I config back to left hand side ?
[06:28] <grendal_prime> ?
[06:28] <KI7MT> Typically, I  dont upgrade to the next LTS even until the first point release, like 12.04.1 .. then I upgrade from 10.04.4
[06:28] <grendal_prime> dothe opposit  what you did to get it on the right hand side
[06:28] <KI7MT> same will be for 14.04 .. will upg at 14.04.1
[06:28] <lkthomas> grendal_prime: I have no idea how the user did it
[06:29] <grendal_prime> i agree with this KI7MT
[06:30] <KI7MT> grendal_prime, if your an admin for many machines with complex profiles, Landscape is a must have application.
[06:30] <grendal_prime> lkthomas,
[06:30] <grendal_prime> http://askubuntu.com/questions/33605/can-i-move-the-unity-launcher
[06:30] <lkthomas> grendal_prime: I also found that
[06:31] <grendal_prime> ya KI7MT i agree,  however im working on my own budget on my own datacenter.  Im the one that does most of that.
[06:31] <KI7MT> Ubuntu Tweak can do that.
[06:31] <Oku7> With XRDP installed; I'm assuming I need to modify my xsession file?
[06:31] <lkthomas> KI7MT: are you talking to me ?
[06:32] <grendal_prime> also these machines are pretty much appliances.
[06:32] <grendal_prime> Oku7, i dont think so
[06:32] <grendal_prime> i just install..connect
[06:32] <KI7MT> lkthomas, yes, check out Ubuntu Tweak
[06:32] <grendal_prime> so you have a firewall on that?
[06:32] <lkthomas> KI7MT: http://ubuntu-tweak.com/ ?
[06:32] <grendal_prime> you will need to open up 3388 instead of 5900...or whatever the hell its for vnc
[06:33] <KI7MT> Yup, that be the one.
[06:33] <lkthomas> KI7MT: I will check that out, thanks
[06:33] <Oku7> grendal_prime: well; I'm running a firewall on the router, which is connected to a vpn; and the linux box has pfsense
[06:34] <grendal_prime> some other really nice features about using xrdp you get all the fine tuning you get with rdp...
[06:34] <Oku7> and the password isn't root… if whats what you're wondering
[06:34] <grendal_prime> i would hope not
[06:35] <grendal_prime> ok..soooo this machine is in the corner of the room...and you are vpn to it?
[06:35] <grendal_prime> you really are paranoid
[06:35] <grendal_prime> and...thats....OK...really..
[06:35] <bow_vernon> hi guys, I had a strange experience. I installed squid3 on my linux server so it would act as a proxy server. all is well and done, I can open website thru it. however, it seems that I still get similar ip address and not using the proxy server's address. I hit checkip.dyndns.org to see my current ip address. it shows my current address and not my proxy server's address :O
[06:36] <Oku7> no my router is setup as an openvpn client to a commerical vpn service
[06:36] <Oku7> so all outgoing traffic from the lan goes thru that
[06:37] <grendal_prime> I dont worry about things right in the same room like that usually...but then again..im friends with the monster under my bed as well as the voices in my head.
[06:37] <Oku7> although I would like to get my yubikey involved in initiating ssh sessions with the box..
[06:37] <grendal_prime> Oku7,  ...hmm i built one of those ...the installed it in malasia
[06:37] <bow_vernon> however, I tried using webproxy and hit checkip.dyndns.org well it gave me different ip address, which makes me sure something isn't going nice here
[06:38] <grendal_prime> any particular reason you are anonomizing all your outbound traffic?
[06:39] <bow_vernon> are you asking me?
[06:39] <grendal_prime> maybe...
[06:39] <Oku7> haha
[06:39] <grendal_prime> are you doing that as well???
[06:39] <bow_vernon> hmm I was trying to utilize my linux box to act as proxy server, that's all
[06:39] <Oku7> grendal_prime:  is judge jury executioner
[06:40] <bow_vernon> I'm trying to anonimize my outbound traffic because the network admin here is kinda shitty
[06:40] <bow_vernon> you know, me rulez you!! that kinda behavior
[06:40] <grendal_prime> not really,  grendal_prime is always a little cautious about anonomizers...as i have built them and i now why they are built.
[06:41] <Beldar> !language | bow_vernon
[06:41] <bow_vernon> sorry, I was giving a more detailed explanation of what I have to face everyday
[06:41] <grendal_prime> i understand.
[06:41] <grendal_prime> i dont judge.
[06:42] <bow_vernon> so..do you know what actually happens when one connects thru proxy?
[06:42] <grendal_prime> yes i do.
[06:42] <bow_vernon> please do tell me
[06:42] <grendal_prime> proxy is not what you want.
[06:42] <KI7MT> bow_vernon, may want to run your questions past the guys in ubuntu-server, I dont do allot of proxy stuff, so not up on this one at all.
[06:42] <grendal_prime> you want to vpn out.
[06:43] <grendal_prime> proxys are not typically encrypted,  vpn is.
[06:43] <Oku7> and for the love of god dont use pptp
[06:43] <bow_vernon> I don't use pptp.
[06:43] <KI7MT> It is it tunned through SSH
[06:43] <KI7MT> it is if ..
[06:43] <KI7MT> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-tunnel-traffic-with-ssh/
[06:44] <bow_vernon> I tried ssh tunnel to checkip.dyndns.org hey, it gave me the proxy server's address!!
[06:44] <grendal_prime> yes but thats so much the suck...
[06:44] <grendal_prime> its much easyer to set up a an openvpn server
[06:44] <bow_vernon> know any good openvpn server?
[06:44] <KI7MT> Merely saying it can be done, not that it's the best way :-)
[06:44] <grendal_prime> bow_vernon you have a mother or ...grand mother with a good cable connection?
[06:45] <grendal_prime> yes
[06:45] <grendal_prime> openvpn server.
[06:45] <bow_vernon> I pay my own internet, man
[06:45] <Oku7> ahaha
[06:45] <Oku7> that's not the point
[06:45] <grendal_prime> but your.....isp is awfull to you
[06:45] <bow_vernon> eh?
[06:45] <Guest46951> hi
[06:46] <Oku7> there are that many guests?
[06:46] <grendal_prime> if you set up openvpn server at your mothers house you can vpn connect to it and all your traffic is then released into the wild from there.
[06:46] <bow_vernon> isn't that what proxy is doing?
[06:46] <grendal_prime> no
[06:46] <bow_vernon> what?!
[06:46] <Oku7> haha
[06:46] <Oku7> why did you install it?
[06:46] <bow_vernon> so what's squid doin on my ubuntu?! that liar
[06:47] <bow_vernon> I thought proxy was meant to act as a "bridge"
[06:47] <grendal_prime> serving porn
[06:47] <grendal_prime> maybe
[06:47] <grendal_prime> just kidding on that.
[06:47] <Oku7> (maybe)
[06:47] <bow_vernon> so instead of proxy server, I should've installed vpn server?
[06:47] <grendal_prime> back up..
[06:47] <KI7MT> bow_vernon, bascialyl a proxy is an intermediate stop in the http request, which among other things allows content filtration, it's a not a security measure or spoof.
[06:47] <grendal_prime> basic need is what?
[06:48] <grendal_prime> your isp is blocking things? or...what?
[06:48] <bow_vernon> yes, sorta
[06:48] <grendal_prime> in or out?
[06:49] <grendal_prime> sorta..is not a networkable protocol by the way.
[06:49] <bow_vernon> out and in (I guess it blocks incoming traffic too as I can't use torrent)
[06:50] <KI7MT> If my ISP blocked Tor, I'd fire them.
[06:50] <grendal_prime> i dont think..anyway..(has anyone seen any "sorta" protocol in there wireshark sniffs?
[06:50] <bow_vernon> sorta = sort of
[06:50] <grendal_prime> yep still not a protocol to my knowledge
[06:50] <grendal_prime> ok
[06:50] <grendal_prime> all joking aside
[06:51] <grendal_prime> if you want to mask what you are doing from your isp you send it all out one port encripted and to a server that your isp has no control over.
[06:51] <KI7MT> bow_vernon, think ya need to be a bot more specific on what the problem is in order to get the right solution given.
[06:52] <bow_vernon> ok ok I'll be a lil more "honest"
[06:52] <grendal_prime> like an ubuntu server at your mothers house. or..realy good friend...partner in crime one might say.
[06:52] <bow_vernon> I have a pc at home, linux installed. great ISP, no blockages or something like that
[06:53] <grendal_prime> this is a compleatly different story...you should be running an openvpn server for the rest of us to connect to.
[06:53] <bow_vernon> but I spend most of my time at the office, which use bad ISP plus there's a troll admin on the way out
[06:53] <grendal_prime> oh no brainer
[06:53] <grendal_prime> ready for this?
[06:53] <bow_vernon> I was born ready
[06:54] <grendal_prime> do you have admin on the machine at work?
[06:54] <bow_vernon> what do you mean?
[06:54] <grendal_prime> windows?
[06:54] <bow_vernon> you mean like, admin access to my pc?
[06:54] <grendal_prime> can you install apps on it?
[06:54] <bow_vernon> of course. I got administrator access to my office pc
[06:54] <grendal_prime> hahah...god i love windows corprate practices.
[06:54] <bow_vernon> yes, it's win7
[06:55] <grendal_prime> ok...install openvpn client on there.
[06:55] <KI7MT> grendal_prime, and they spend millions onf AV SW .. then wonder why :-)
[06:55] <grendal_prime> openvpn.net.
[06:55] <grendal_prime> i know right.
[06:55] <Oku7> Depending on your companies IT competency, it's common for there to be screen viewers and such that let whoever cares enough, to directly watch your work as you work
[06:55] <grendal_prime> ok...then on your machine at home install openvpnserver
[06:55] <Oku7> or in this case; watch porn over encrypted ports ;p
[06:56] <such_coins> I just replaced windows 8 with Xubuntu. I previously had 31 ping on a browser based game I played, now I have around 50 ping. Can anyone help me get a faster ping?
[06:56] <Oku7> and this extra 19 ms of ping… really slows your game down?
[06:56] <bow_vernon> lol so all I have to do is just resort to vpn solution?
[06:56] <such_coins> Oku7: more than you'd think
[06:56] <grendal_prime> ya
[06:57] <bow_vernon> I guess this is what I've been wanting. thanks!
[06:57] <such_coins> it's a fast paced capture the flag game... koalabeast.com
[06:57] <KI7MT> grendal_prime, bow_vernon he probably need a stati IP from the ISP and he's gonna need a whole in the router to allow that.
[06:57] <such_coins> 19 ms is a big difference between a win and a loss in major league games
[06:57] <KI7MT> At home that is.
[06:57] <grendal_prime> major league video games?
[06:57] <Oku7> isnt there a name server that allows you to get around changing ips...
[06:57] <bow_vernon> oh I got a static IP
[06:57] <Oku7> forgetting the name
[06:57] <grendal_prime> i need to smoke more pot
[06:57] <such_coins> From what I've heard, there's no reason windows should run 19 ms faster than ubuntu
[06:57] <Oku7> I have a static too
[06:57] <such_coins> err, the ping that is
[06:58] <Oku7> such_coins: I'm assuming your dsl/cable modem is attached to a router, which your computer is then attached to?
[06:59] <such_coins> Oku7: yes
[07:00] <grendal_prime> bow_vernon, there are services you can go through for free ..or cheep  or you can set up your own.
[07:00] <Oku7> private internet access is one
[07:00] <Oku7> (we're talking about vpn's still right?)
[07:00] <grendal_prime> if you are not very familar with the terminal i would recommend openvpn coupled with webmin on your server.
[07:01] <grendal_prime> god i hope so...otherwise i dont know what sort of services we would be talking about....
[07:01] <Oku7> such_coins: is this 19ms based on running the ping command, or does the webapp give you the latency?
[07:01] <Oku7> you could try running traceroute; and see where things are slow
[07:02] <such_coins> you can see for yourself at koalabeast.com it gives me the latency in game
[07:02] <KI7MT> Oku7, it's the only thing to talk abotu at the moment, nobody has any other issues it seems :-)
[07:02] <grendal_prime> bow_vernon, hold on i think i have a howto on this actually
[07:02] <grendal_prime> do you prefer video...or sextual
[07:02] <grendal_prime> sorry that was textual
[07:02] <kenetik> grendal_prime: definitely sextual
[07:02] <Oku7> although 31 vs 50ms… thats pretty typical latency.. connections should vary 20 or 30ms over wan
[07:02] <jay-o> regarding ubuntu desktop dist-upgrade 12.10, it seems terrible.
[07:03] <bow_vernon> well I'm familiarizing myself with linux terminal right now
[07:03] <Oku7> KI7MT:  I know.. and i thought I had problems when I was trying to play counterstrike with 300+ms a decade ago
[07:04] <KI7MT> 19ms .. you can't see it or feel it in any game environment that's for sure.
[07:04] <such_coins> KI7MT: you must not play many fast paced games :p
[07:04] <Krishna73> :)
[07:04] <such_coins> you definitely can feel the difference, both in your performance and your score
[07:04] <KI7MT> bow_vernon, that's a good place to be, but it's not an over night thing .. the more ya use it, the more you'll want to use it.
[07:05] <Oku7> such_coins:  if the 'game' ie the browser is reporting the latency; you could even be running into differences in how the javascript is executing
[07:05] <KI7MT> such_coins, yeah, i die allot in COD and Resistance :-)
[07:05] <bow_vernon> I've been using it for a month. altho I still don't know what grep/less is doing
[07:05] <Oku7> well the man command is helpful
[07:06] <bow_vernon> sometimes the parameter isn't listed in the man page :p
[07:06] <cfhowlett> !details|jay-o,
[07:06] <such_coins> Oku7: what do you mean? Are you saying the JS executes differently on Windows Chrome and Xubuntu Chrome?
[07:06] <KI7MT> bow_vernon, OT but grep is a miner whos' looking for your input, and Less is the control valve, which limts the results to a managable level.
[07:07] <tman> How do you tell gcc to link against specific libraries in say a non standard development directory?
[07:07] <bow_vernon> so it "filters" output
[07:07] <bow_vernon> that's what you were saying, eh?
[07:07] <_qfu> how install mysql 5.6
[07:08] <KI7MT> tman, gcc -shared *.o -o libstuff.so -0 somting-else.so etc
[07:08] <Oku7> bow_vernon:  goto google images and look around for linux commandline backgrounds.. ex; http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Lb-i_VCD1tE/TI7PRp3BNjI/AAAAAAAAA0Q/9IpBCrHE12w/s1600/ZiCzX.png
[07:08] <such_coins> Oku7: The game is made with node.js and socket.io, I assume the game is just displaying the time difference between each socket sent to it by the server
[07:08] <cmiller> I have an Ubuntu 13.10 server on which nginx refuses to start, and it isn't being particularly verbose about it. Does anybody have any suggestions about how to begin diagnosing this? The overall symptom is that service nginx start fails silently.
[07:08] <Oku7> bow_vernon: it can be helpful when you're memorizing those commands
[07:09] <KI7MT> tman, pass the path to the libs before you run gcc then direct link to the .sop
[07:09] <bow_vernon> Oku7 thanks!
[07:09] <grendal_prime> hey
[07:09] <grendal_prime> bow
[07:09] <grendal_prime> bow_vernon,
[07:09] <Oku7> grendal_prime:  no puff an pass?]
[07:09] <bow_vernon> grendal_prime
[07:10] <Oku7> bow_vernon:  np.
[07:10] <grendal_prime> so i have a video for ya...on installing webmin and openvpn on a brand new server.
[07:10] <tman> KI7MT: Can I specify those flags in a makefile? Also can it be used for as many libraries as I need?
[07:10] <grendal_prime> only thing is this is for a bridged environment...wich is not what you want
[07:11] <grendal_prime> but that part i think you can figure out.
[07:11] <bow_vernon> yep bridging is for when I want to play LAN over WAN right?
[07:11] <Oku7> um
[07:11] <grendal_prime> no...um..i dont understand what you just said
[07:11] <grendal_prime> anyway
[07:11] <KI7MT> tman, Yes, I don't see why not, allot of third party apps do things that way.
[07:12] <grendal_prime> hmm on second thought...this might not be what you need
[07:12] <grendal_prime> i think i have one that is for what you want to do..
[07:12] <tman> KI7MT: Ok thank you. I might have a few questions later.
[07:13] <KI7MT> tman, well that' sorta stuff probably better asked in GCC channel
[07:13] <KI7MT> or a development channel at least.
[07:13] <tman> KI7MT: ok.
[07:13] <derek0112> hello
[07:13] <KI7MT> Hi
[07:14] <grendal_prime> maybe not
[07:14] <grendal_prime> hmm...bummer
[07:14] <derek0112> K17MT
[07:14] <derek0112> I have a question about IE on Ubuntu
[07:14] <grendal_prime> ill have to make one of those...takes about 15 min..but ..ill have to do it tomorro.
[07:14] <derek0112> anybody can help me on that?
[07:14] <Oku7> IE on Ubuntu
[07:14] <grendal_prime> have webwork to do tonight.
[07:14] <Oku7> what has this world come to
[07:15] <grendal_prime> Oku7, its bad..
[07:15] <KI7MT> IE and Ubuntu kinda like Oil & Water but can be used via Wine
[07:15] <grendal_prime> its just getting worse.  and..on top of everything the president is a crappy web page developer.
[07:15] <Oku7> ahaha
[07:16] <derek0112> tried wine
[07:16] <tman> grendal_prime: true that.
[07:16] <Tex_Nick> !details derek0112
[07:16] <Oku7> code for america yo
[07:16] <Tex_Nick> !details | derek0112
[07:16] <ObrienDave> derek0112, have you tried Firefox or Chrome?
[07:16] <Oku7> why do you need IE in the first place?
[07:16] <derek0112> I am on firefox
[07:16] <grendal_prime> derek0112, thanks for reminding me...i was getting low..i have to go to the wine cooler brb
[07:16] <cfhowlett> derek0112, it's never going to work the way you want until microsoft decides to make IE for linux.
[07:16] <derek0112> I need IE for some important tast
[07:16] <Oku7> some activex or microsoft page requiring it's holy presence?
[07:17] <ObrienDave> Chrome should handle that
[07:17] <derek0112> let me show you the whole pic
[07:17] <KI7MT> derek0112, FF, Chromium, adnything better than IE, just my personal opinion.
[07:17] <grendal_prime> not the whole thing really?  is that nessary?
[07:18] <Oku7> grendal_prime:  you didn't puff puff pass man.. jeeze
[07:18] <ObrienDave> BOGART
[07:18] <grendal_prime> derek0112,  before we jump in this rabbit whole..how much horse power you got on this machine?
[07:19] <grendal_prime> guys..i would pass it on but i dont have any...i was just saying that cause....of the comment about major league video games....
[07:19] <Tex_Nick> derek0112: the whole pic is what you need to provide ... there is probably another solution on linux ;)
[07:19] <ObrienDave> derek0112, what test? link or screenshot please
[07:19] <grendal_prime> i could really get into that sort of thing..."only if i smoke alot of pot".. im sorry to lead you on like that.
[07:19] <grendal_prime> my bad
[07:20] <derek0112> I am running  Ubuntu 12.04 on HP Pavillion g4. I ever used Windows 8, but this stuff consumes a lot CPU. I turned to Ubuntu. Our banks USBKey only support IE browser, this stupid one. I ever learned that wine might work. I tried wine, but it came up with lot of bugs. Then I considered using virtualbox to install a XP
[07:20] <grendal_prime> derek0112,   now ...seriously.  install virtualbox,
[07:20] <grendal_prime> look into seemless integration.
[07:20] <Oku7> or dual boot
[07:20] <cfhowlett> derek0112, #vbox is the place you want to be
[07:20] <Oku7> and run windows for that
[07:20] <cfhowlett> or ^^^^
[07:20] <Oku7> likely the fastest, route to $$
[07:20] <derek0112> that would consume me a lot disk space, well I only need the stupid IE for some simple but important tast
[07:21] <grendal_prime> you can run a virtualized app with the windows kernel right in your ubuntu desktop.
[07:21] <Oku7> however i now need my standard 2&20 fee
[07:21] <Oku7> you realize, that installing virtualbox & windows will consume just as much
[07:21] <derek0112> that's why I wonder if there is some windown compatible kernel layer to run this stuff
[07:21] <Oku7> and diskspace is really cheep
[07:21] <Oku7> anyway
[07:21] <Oku7> we could also help optimize your banks latency response
[07:21] <grendal_prime> yep...its called...Microsoft windows
[07:22] <derek0112> I like open source
[07:22] <grendal_prime> and it sucks...but...you can run it and then turn it off when yo want the suck to stop
[07:22] <grendal_prime> and still use a working computer in the mean time.
[07:22] <derek0112> it is a headache
[07:22] <grendal_prime> also if its virtualized..you can pause the sucking....or blowing...whichever windows is doing at that time.
[07:22] <KI7MT> derek0112, things are nto goign to run any faster in a VM than they did with W8, in fact, they may be slower, but you'll have a native IE back if that's what you need.
[07:22] <Oku7> Does your bank have any new/different versions of these usb keys ?
[07:23] <Oku7> perhaps you can find one that plays with firefox/chrome etc
[07:23] <cfhowlett> derek0112, dual boot is your best optoin
[07:23] <taruti> How do I understand java dependencies? Installing leiningen (clojure thing) wants to use gcj, but I'd like to use openjdk.
[07:24] <grendal_prime> derek0112,  ill make you  a deal..ill run a virt windows for you ..you pay me 30 bucks a month..you can rdp to it and do whatever you want on it?
[07:24] <Oku7> haha
[07:24] <derek0112> lol
[07:24] <grendal_prime> i do that now for several people
[07:24] <Oku7> pretty sure he needs his bank's USB dongle in the windows machine
[07:24] <grendal_prime> nope
[07:25] <grendal_prime> you can forward that right thorugh rdp bro
[07:25] <Oku7> inteeeerresttting
[07:25] <Oku7> then just go on aws
[07:25] <derek0112> AWS?
[07:26] <Oku7> or any other cloud provider (grendal's cloud included), and do that
[07:26] <Oku7> amazon web services
[07:26] <KI7MT> Not the most secure idea sending your bank dongle to somebody else .. lol
[07:26] <derek0112> lol
[07:26] <grendal_prime> ya ..but then you would have amazon looking under your kilt all the time... NOw me..I dont want whats under your kilt..i just want 30 bucks a month.
[07:26] <Oku7> what bank is it anyway
[07:27] <derek0112> Bank of China
[07:27] <Oku7> shiaat
[07:27] <grendal_prime> oh crap
[07:27] <Oku7> abort!
[07:27] <derek0112> lol
[07:27] <grendal_prime> ya..well things go bad there..and they take your finger nails.
[07:27] <grendal_prime> or balls...
[07:27] <grendal_prime> if your a tennis player that is.
[07:27] <KI7MT> Alt-Ctrl-Del .. then setup a dual boot machine, Win8 and Ubunut
[07:27] <KI7MT> Ubuntu
[07:28] <grendal_prime> i dont know i like china really...things are simple...
[07:28] <Tex_Nick> derek0112: switch banks or consider cfhowlett's advice ... just dual boot ... tis NOT that hard
[07:29] <derek0112> yes, not very hard
[07:29] <grendal_prime> dont do this...dont do that...those are bad...do this...that is good.  i mean makes dayplanners much more simple ill bed.
[07:29] <grendal_prime> bet.
[07:29] <Oku7> yeah; you left windows 8 cause your laptop couldn't handle it - so running a virtualized instance of windows inside linux, is going to be brutal
[07:29] <cfhowlett> derek0112, I'm in Beijing.  I can't even begin to count the number of Windows XP terminals I see in use.  If the bank says IE, best believe they will make NO effort to make your life easier by enabling firefox.  dual boot.
[07:29] <Oku7> it's dualboot, or new computer
[07:30] <derek0112> you are in Beijing?
[07:30] <cfhowlett> derek0112, yep
[07:30] <derek0112> lol, me too
[07:30] <grendal_prime> i know..you guys should complain.
[07:30] <grendal_prime> if you dont..it will never get added to the good list ....
[07:30] <cfhowlett> grendal_prime, complain?  In China?  Me thinks not ...
[07:30] <derek0112> better I reconsier my demand
[07:31] <HaltingState> I am seeing app notifications for pidgeon, even after pidgeon is closed
[07:31] <derek0112> I do most of my work on Ubuntu
[07:31] <derek0112> only for some banking on IE
[07:31] <derek0112> that's it, I can use other PC
[07:31] <grendal_prime> see....see...im telling you i live in a country were things work better cause everyone complains...also i have to marry your ugly sister if you help me with my problems.
[07:31] <pagioss> hi all, i am trying to have wvdial run on startup of system, for some reason including it in rc.lcoal does not seem to solve it
[07:32] <derek0112> thank you guys
[07:32] <Oku7> heh
[07:32] <Oku7> I dont think we provided all that much help
[07:32] <cfhowlett> derek0112, best of luck.  if you need help with the dual, send me a PM.  I can do it ... for beer!
[07:32] <Oku7> but you're welcome..
[07:33] <grendal_prime> your welcome..we wussed out..but...we did try.
[07:33] <derek0112> PM?
[07:33] <Oku7> I say reverse engineer the dongle
[07:33] <Oku7> & profit
[07:33] <grendal_prime> no no...i say openvpn to my kvm cluster and redirect your usb port ...
[07:33] <Tex_Nick> cfhowlett: now that's what's called service above & beyond the call of duty !!! ;)
[07:34] <grendal_prime> pay me 30.....um....yen? a month.
[07:34] <KI7MT> grendal_prime, Yen is Japan :-)
[07:34] <cfhowlett> LOL
[07:34] <Oku7> can I store my bitcoin wallets on this cluster too?
[07:34] <cfhowlett> derek0112, private message
[07:34] <grendal_prime> sure....wateverthehell those are.
[07:35] <pagioss> i thin main problem is wvdial needs root priviledge when accessing /dev/ttyUSB
[07:35] <pagioss> so how can i run it from rc.local
[07:35] <grendal_prime> yen is japan?   oh man...that explains my 401k issues.
[07:35] <Tex_Nick> lol
[07:35] <grendal_prime> pagioss, run it as root from rc.local
[07:35] <cfhowlett> Ok SERIOUSLY ot, but hilarious
[07:36] <tman> Did you make rc.local executable?
[07:36] <pagioss> grendal_prime: /usr/bin/wvdial con1 in rc.local doest do it
[07:36] <tman> eg. chmod +x rc.local
[07:37] <duckx0r> I am trying to add RAID1 to an existing installation. Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mdadm) says to do `mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=mirror --raid-devices=2 /dev/sda1 /dev/sdb1`. My question is, if one of the drives already has information on it and the other one is blank, which partition will be copied from the other one? Does the order in the mdadm command affect anything?
[07:37] <pagioss> tman: other commands in rc.local execute correctly
[07:38] <tman> But don't commands in rc.local execute with uid of 0 anyway? I don't see why the process couldn't access /dev files.
[07:38] <pagioss> i dont know either
[07:39] <KI7MT> duckx0r, do yourself a favor, make full back up of the data drive, then reconfigure the entire array as if it was a new drive install.
[07:39] <tman> what does wvdial do?
[07:39] <pagioss> dial a 3g conn
[07:39] <tman> ah I see.
[07:39] <KI7MT> tman, in a termainl, man wvdial
[07:40] <grendal_prime> could be that it is trying to connect with something that does not give acess to root.
[07:40] <grendal_prime> for security reasons
[07:40] <grendal_prime> i ran into this one time
[07:40] <grendal_prime> did you look at that error logs?
[07:40] <duckx0r> KI7MT, good idea about backing up. I haven't configured the array yet though.
[07:40] <pagioss> grendal_prime: if i execute as root from terminal it works
[07:40] <tman> I don't have it installed at the moment.
[07:41] <tman> And I mostly run gentoo.
[07:41] <grendal_prime> right...wich  i think is a bad idea by the way.
[07:41] <grendal_prime> but im not excatly sure.
[07:41] <KI7MT> duckx0r, yup,that's the best / safest way, then you know youv'e got the data, and can start from scratch on the array.
[07:41] <grendal_prime> i think you need to use a diff user and add them to the modem group.
[07:41] <pagioss> you mean /usr/bin/wvdial con1 &> /tmp/err grendal_prime ?
[07:42] <grendal_prime> no...hold on im trying to remember how i got around this issue
[07:42] <grendal_prime> cause i know i have run into it before...cheep machine as a router via a dial up issue.
[07:42] <pagioss> yea same here
[07:42] <KI7MT> tman, man is on Gentoo also :-) .. although wvdial may not be, long story short, it's a PPP dialer.
[07:43] <grendal_prime> ya and i think that is usally the issue
[07:45] <grendal_prime> ya i dont know if this will help but i think this is what i used to get it working
[07:45] <sgeto> hello guys
[07:45] <grendal_prime> this is kinda diff in that it is a dial on demand config
[07:45] <grendal_prime> http://www.davidpashley.com/articles/dial-on-demand-with-wvdial/
[07:46] <sgeto> can someone tell me what edubuntu is?
[07:47] <KI7MT> sgeto, it's Ubuntu with mroe apps installed geared toward scholastics.
[07:47] <pagioss> grendal_prime: i dont see a modem group :)
[07:47] <KI7MT> sgeto, More Info: https://www.edubuntu.org/about
[07:47] <grendal_prime> ppp?
[07:48] <KI7MT> Dont say it :-)
[07:48] <tman> lol.
[07:48] <grendal_prime> how about dailout?
[07:48] <grendal_prime> gofish?
[07:48] <KI7MT> that works too
[07:48] <Beldar> oh your sooooooooo academic, lol
[07:49] <Beldar> just a liddle ribbin
[07:50] <grendal_prime> damn well this has been real its been fun..but this has literally sucked away 2 hours of my life.  I want them back.
[07:51] <grendal_prime> irc...is allot like the life sucking machine from the Princess Bride.
[07:51] <grendal_prime> only not quite as painful.
[07:51] <cfhowlett> !edubuntu|sgeto,
[07:52] <KI7MT> yeah, what he said ^^^
[07:52] <pagioss> grendal_prime: 1h and counting
[07:54] <grendal_prime> we may one day take as much as 20 years off of your life ..but i honestly dont know what that will do to you.
[07:54] <Oku7>  1 hour till what
[07:54] <KI7MT> and what ya counting?
[07:54] <Oku7> does this room have free pizza?
[07:55] <grendal_prime> hes a willing participant in the life sucking experience that is irc.
[07:55] <Beldar> no but free trout slapping
[07:55] <grendal_prime> Not too many people have experience with trout slapping.
[07:56] <Oku7> Beldar: that's a bucket list item for me
[07:56] <Oku7> seriously
[07:56] <grendal_prime> thatnk god.
[07:56] <Beldar> ala monty python
[07:56] <Oku7> although it would have to be good; ie woman fails at parallel parking *smack*
[07:57] <grendal_prime> Beldar,
[07:57] <grendal_prime> http://gallery.booksnmore.com/gallery3/index.php/Grahams/photo_bucket/VID_20131216_203538_233
[07:58] <Oku7> grendal_prime: this is your kid? haha
[07:58] <KI7MT> Oku7, yeah, slapping somebody with a trout, that's gotta be in the buck fer sure,
[07:59] <Oku7> KI7MT: it's not frozen or anything, jeeze
[07:59] <XATRIX> Hi, i've installed ubuntu server and have the following: http://ur1.ca/g7zko
[07:59] <XATRIX> Any case to fix for root account ?
[08:00] <XATRIX> Also, i can't reboot my machine.!!! It simply doesn't execute RST signal or whatever
[08:00] <grendal_prime> ya. I made them watch the movie about a week ago.
[08:00] <sgeto> thx KI7MT!
[08:01] <XATRIX> After all processes killed, and the BIOS should reset the system - it simply hangs
[08:01] <Oku7> do Faulty Towers..
[08:01] <XATRIX> Only power-off / power-on can help me out
[08:01] <XATRIX> The same i have with Ubuntu on my laptop . I thought server won't be experienceing such things :(
[08:02] <grendal_prime> they kept asking for coconuts so i bought a couple and then cut them in half with a chop saw...they pretty much spend most of the day pretending to be horses now and saying werid crap
[08:03] <grendal_prime> how tall would you like your shrubbery?
[08:03] <Oku7> that'll happen; hopefully you dont have a white rabbit int he house
[08:03] <grendal_prime> no but lots of weapons.
[08:04] <grendal_prime> mostly they are trained for those though.
[08:05] <grendal_prime> i teach college style saber fencing my kids are very agile.
[08:05] <grendal_prime> and use ubuntu every day....
[08:05] <KI7MT> XATRIX, have you tried doing an update then installing mc .. Im not sure if it's installed or not by default on ub-server
[08:05] <Oku7> honestly cant tell where the bs starts and ends
[08:06] <grendal_prime> usually around your boots... Oku7
[08:06] <XATRIX> KI7MT: possibly you're right, i downloaded the distro yesterday but didn't issue apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:07] <XATRIX> But what can i do with kernel hang while reboot ?
[08:07] <Oku7> anyone here mess around with software defined radios?
[08:07] <grendal_prime> those those werid....web radios?
[08:07] <Oku7> nope
[08:07] <grendal_prime> my motherinlaw has one
[08:07] <grendal_prime> oh...then she doesnt
[08:08] <KI7MT> XATRIX, do the normal sudo apt-get update .. then if you want dist-upgrade and try install mc.
[08:08] <Oku7> http://www.reddit.com/r/rtlsdr
[08:08] <Oku7> for 20 bucks you pick up a usb tv tuner stick; that's capable of picking up 30hz - 2200mhz
[08:09] <grapetiser> XATRIX: do a normal apt-get update & apt-get upgrade before installing mc ..
[08:09] <grendal_prime> wireless ip?
[08:09] <Oku7> and there are a variety of programs for decoding signals and such
[08:09] <grendal_prime> ip over rf or something like that?
[08:09] <Oku7> they're recieve only
[08:10] <Oku7> you can listen to airplanes, fire/police/public safety/anyone with a radio
[08:10] <grendal_prime> one of my clients has a bunch of that stuff he wants to use for...well transmitting data from weather and water data stuff.
[08:10] <Oku7> ship beacons
[08:10] <Oku7> weather satalites
[08:10] <Oku7> all sorts of crap
[08:10] <Beldar> he mother ship
[08:10] <Beldar> the*
[08:10] <grendal_prime> hmm...i just get in the cesna..the radio in there picks up all that stuff
[08:10] <Oku7> yeah
[08:11] <Oku7> although it can actively decode the trunking systems that the state police use?
[08:11] <Beldar> as a representative of remulak we mean you no harm
[08:11] <JoFo> Hello
[08:11] <grendal_prime> i dont like those people their converstaions are depressing...and if im doing things correctly never are they talking about me.
[08:12] <Oku7> that's definitely the ideal
[08:12] <grendal_prime> JOFO HELLO BACK AT YA.
[08:12] <JoFo> I’d like to install Oracle’s virtual machine on my Ubuntu.
[08:12] <grendal_prime> EVERTYING OKYFINE THEN?
[08:13] <grendal_prime> install kvm or virtualbox
[08:13] <JoFo> At http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/virtualbox/downloads/index.html I see it is available for Ubuntu up to 13.04. Is the 13.04 .deb file compatible with Ubuntu 13.10?
[08:14] <grendal_prime> hmmm sounds like a misuse of the phrase virtual
[08:15] <grendal_prime> oooh you want a virtual environment?
[08:15] <XATRIX> locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
[08:15] <XATRIX> :(
[08:15] <grendal_prime> JoFo,   what sort of hardware do you have for a host
[08:15] <somsip> JoFo: you just want to install virtualbox? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[08:16] <Beldar> JoFo, notice both are listed
[08:16] <Beldar> https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[08:16] <JoFo> grendal_prime⁛ Yes. I want to install CentOS and perhaps Windows on a VM on Ubuntu.
[08:18] <grendal_prime> ok..so basically ya you need ither the free version of virtual box or the oracle(quasi free), or kvm, or xine, or ....there may be another one...but..virtual box will probably be best if your not sure.
[08:18] <KI7MT> grendal_prime, the VBox install is way outdated, should use the Oracle Install instructions.
[08:18] <grendal_prime> i use kvm but..you kinda have to know a little more about what is going on.
[08:18] <grendal_prime> ya i agree, oracle is keeping up pretty well.
[08:19] <grapetiser> XATRIX: run sudo locale-gen en_US.UTF-8
[08:19] <grendal_prime> basically the oracle stuff is going to work best al around..but you dont want to start anything comercial with it...
[08:19] <grapetiser> XATRIX: modify the locale to match your preferred locale.. the above is for english US
[08:20] <XATRIX> Yeap
[08:20] <XATRIX> I need english locale
[08:20] <XATRIX> Fixed it
[08:20] <grendal_prime> Not only that but larry ellison is cool..  I like him but we have alot in common.
[08:20] <grendal_prime> if you dont like him you might go a different route.
[08:22] <grendal_prime> god i wish eclipse was writen in some besides java
[08:22] <KI7MT> XATRIX, sudo locale-gen en_US en_US.UTF-8 && sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[08:23] <XATRIX> Yeap, i've done exactly the same
[08:23] <XATRIX> But how to fix system restart issue ?
[08:23] <XATRIX> I have this thing both on my laptop ubuntu, and server
[08:23] <KI7MT> XATRIX, sri didn't see you said you fixed it, glad its sorted.
[08:23] <Ascendion> grendal_prime -- you dont want to know how many different pieces of software I've said that about in the last 2 months :)
[08:23] <KI7MT> XATRIX, have you dont all the updates and upgrades?
[08:24] <grendal_prime> so Ascendion i figured out how to explain this the other day...
[08:24] <KI7MT> XATRIX, have you done .. ..
[08:25] <XATRIX> Yeap, gonna try reboot
[08:25] <circle> If I create extra partitions out of the 'unallocated space' parts of my hard drive, will it delete the stuff on the paritions i already have formatted?
[08:25] <grendal_prime> Ascendion,  it seems to me that java and the way it is typically implemented is an awful lot like moving several million marbles from Oregon to Mexico, one marble at a time with a Mac truck and trailer.
[08:26] <grendal_prime> and i stand by that. I wish i could patent it.
[08:26] <Ascendion> grendal_prime -- I know exactly how you feel and that pretty much sums up why I switched from java to c# and never looked back :)
[08:27] <Ascendion> so much boilerplate code that the functionality gets lost :)
[08:28] <grendal_prime> not a big fan of the sharp either...but that is not the work i do mostly so im probably not the best source.
[08:28] <grendal_prime> what i do know is...
[08:28] <grendal_prime> everytime i fire up an app that is java based...i watch my i5...slooooow..down .
[08:30] <Ascendion> my problem is my current project -- there is a lot of related java code out there, but I'm unwilling to shake off years of rust to get back into the java state of mind :)
[08:30] <grendal_prime> i build a metric tone of web crap now.
[08:30] <grendal_prime> mostly php
[08:31] <grendal_prime> but..its werid...as much as that lang is used...there is not a good layout tool that you can use for html without it jacking around with your php.
[08:31] <grendal_prime> accept for a plugin that oracle wrote for eclipse.
[08:32] <carlaneedshelp> i need help
[08:32] <grendal_prime> its called...and get this..."web page editor"
[08:32] <Tex_Nick> circle, not if you do it properly & PROPERLY is the keyword there ... so you might want to provide more specific information ... for a more specific reply
[08:32] <cfhowlett> !details|carlaneedshelp,
[08:33] <grendal_prime> carlaneedshelp, or..you could be a little more vague.  and ill start helping you with stuff you didnt even know was a problem?
[08:34] <carlaneedshelp> somethings wrong with my ubuntu.. i dont know how to explaine it.. im new.. i installed ubuntu yestrday..
[08:34] <Ascendion> carlan -- you could always try the universal solution :) sudo rm -rf / :)
[08:34] <grendal_prime> wow ..that is...actually more vague.  I dont think that has ever happened
[08:35] <grendal_prime> is your ubuntu giving birth to something?
[08:35] <circle> Tex_Nick: I have a bunch of unformatted space, i want to split that up into about 5 partitions each formatted with ext4
[08:35] <pagios> hi, /usr/sbin/ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com executing in rc.local does not update the date, if i do it manually from shell that works, any idea?
[08:35] <grendal_prime> circle,   gparted
[08:35] <circle> grendal_prime: yes, that's what i'll be using
[08:35] <grendal_prime> good call ...
[08:36] <Ascendion> what version ?? (13.10 ??) server or desktop ?? is the OS at least getting to the point of showing all the startup stuff on the console ?? if you are doing desktop does it get to the gui login ?? :)
[08:36] <cfhowlett> !danger|Ascendion,
[08:36] <Ascendion> dang those bots are slow :)
[08:37] <cfhowlett> Ascendion, no, me getting past the great firewall is causing the lag
[08:37] <Tex_Nick> circle is the unallocated space contiguous ?
[08:37] <grendal_prime> Ascendion, patients ...if you get all that information right off the get go...there will be no altruistically aspect of this answer
[08:38] <Ascendion> hehehe was just trying to prime the pump for the rest of you -- its been a jacked up day trying to get upstart happy with my user sessions and I'm ready to call it a night :)
[08:39] <grendal_prime> i now the feeling
[08:39] <grendal_prime> wife is prolly cold in bed
[08:39] <grendal_prime> fire in the stove here is getting low...im gonna crash as well
[08:39] <Ascendion> don't wait much longer or you'll end up sleeping on the couch :)
[08:39] <Ascendion> laters all :)
[08:40] <grendal_prime> peace!
[08:40] <grendal_prime> circle.  i recomend that tool cause its about as dummy proof as it gets when it comes to partitioning.
[08:41] <grendal_prime> are you haveing some sort of problem with it?
[08:44] <XATRIX> KI7MT: upgrade doesn't help
[08:45] <XATRIX> Sill can't reset my system. Only power-off/power-on
[08:46] <grendal_prime> XATRIX, i didnt catch the beginning of this.
[08:46] <grendal_prime> what version?
[08:46] <XATRIX> Ubuntu-sever 13.10
[08:46] <XATRIX> And a desktop one
[08:46] <grendal_prime> whats the hardware?
[08:46] <XATRIX> The same issue, i do #reboot
[08:47] <KI7MT> XATRIX, what command are you using to shut the server down with ?
[08:47] <XATRIX> It shuts down the processes like as usual, but when the kernel should do the RST signal to CPU - it does nothing
[08:47] <grendal_prime> whats the hardware
[08:47] <XATRIX> Simply hangs, i have to power down the system , and power up again
[08:48] <Danato> this is weird but my maximize button windows borders is gone, how do I bring it back?
[08:48] <KI7MT> XATRIX, understand but what command are you trying to use to shut it down with?
[08:48] <XATRIX> Ok, my laptop is Acer D255E, Intel NM10/ICH7
[08:48] <grendal_prime> i have that machine
[08:48] <XATRIX> And my server is Supermicro X10SLM-F / Intel Xeon E3
[08:49] <XATRIX> KI7MT: doesn't matter, if i do shutdown -r | reboot | or press ACPI power button
[08:49] <grendal_prime> i think i have that server as well
[08:49] <grendal_prime> i run lts on them without issue.  have you tried lts on them?
[08:50] <XATRIX> On my laptop, i have the same issue, have to press power button for 5 sec to powerdown the system, and start again
[08:50] <XATRIX> Negative,
[08:50] <grendal_prime> do you have any data on them that needs recovery?
[08:50] <XATRIX> I also tried PF-kernel for laptop to check it out - the same
[08:51] <grendal_prime> d255 is a 4 core atom correct?
[08:51] <XATRIX> grendal_prime: don't think i need a recovery, my system works pretty well, but the restart fuction doens't work tho
[08:51] <XATRIX> Only have to halt/power up the system
[08:51] <XATRIX> d255 is a 2 core atom cpu
[08:52] <Beldar> !reisub | XATRIX hard shutdowns are not good
[08:52] <XATRIX> Atom N455
[08:52] <Beldar> reisuo for off
[08:52] <grendal_prime> i have the d255e i think it is..i have the 4 core multi thread...
[08:52] <XATRIX> O_O
[08:52] <KI7MT> XATRIX, It's hard to say what is causing the hang up, but the best place to srat looking is in the syslog
[08:52] <grendal_prime> but it works fine with the lts.
[08:53] <XATRIX> Beldar: i don't use hard shutdown. I use normal shutdown until the system expects to send RST, but it doesn't , and later i do hard shutdown
[08:54] <KI7MT> XATRIX, in your grub cfg, you could also try GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="noapic" on your current kernel load.
[08:54] <XATRIX> O_o
[08:54] <XATRIX> Ok, but it's not a good advice to run permanent
[08:55] <KI7MT> XATRIX, agreed, you need to look through syslog and see what is causing the stall.
[08:55] <XATRIX> I try it on the server, because i need my laptop to stay  in IRC channel
[08:55] <grendal_prime> i would ofload any important data, install lts and see if you still have the problem
[08:55] <Danato> Please tell me how to solve this http://i.imgur.com/kyponyC.png
[08:55] <grendal_prime> ill bet it will go away.
[08:55] <XATRIX> How can i take a look at a dmesg, while the system is going down ?
[08:56] <somsip> Danato: IIRC only the active window shows the close button in orange
[08:56] <grendal_prime> dmesg is diff from the syslog
[08:56] <aeon-ltd> Danato: solve what?
[08:56] <Danato> somsip: aeon-ltd: theres no maximize button
[08:56] <Danato> theres jst a gap there
[08:56] <XATRIX> The stall happens, when i see the last system message on screen:
[08:56] <XATRIX> The system will halt now
[08:57] <somsip> Danato: oh yeah. No idea as I dont use that GUI
[08:57] <XATRIX> And a black screen
[08:57] <KI7MT> XATRIX,thry these: sudo halt   sudo shutdown -h now  sudo shutdown even init 0 then tail -n75 /var/log/syslog or incear -n as necessary to try and fond the cause
[08:57] <hellyeah> hey
[08:57] <hellyeah> wtf
[08:57] <hellyeah> i have install pdo driver
[08:57] <Danato> somsip: I can switch to other border styles, and there will still be a gap there
[08:58] <grendal_prime> your missing a graphic
[08:58] <XATRIX> But the system installer, i mean live-cd was able to reset the system after install complete
[08:58] <hellyeah> but look at here http://dpaste.com/1512472/ wtf
[08:58] <hellyeah> damn it
[08:58] <Beldar> hellyeah, no swearing or acronyms of
[08:58] <hellyeah> sorry
[08:58] <hellyeah> but i am in the middle of project
[08:58] <Beldar> thans\ks
[08:59] <aeon-ltd> Danato: no idea, but in most window managers you can choose the button layout (aswell as omit buttons) somewhere in the options
[08:59] <hellyeah> and i took this error and no solution here
[08:59] <Oku7> anyone have linode referal/coupon codes
[08:59] <somsip> hellyeah: do you ever add software using PPAs?
[08:59] <hellyeah> somsiq yeah
[08:59] <somsip> !ot | Oku7
[08:59] <KI7MT> XATRIX, I suspect something app / deamon is getting hung and not shutting down, but that's a guess.
[08:59] <somsip> hellyeah: is it possioble you added something to do with PHP froma PPA?
[08:59] <Oku7> thx bot
[09:00] <hellyeah> somsip:  if it will solve my problem then yes !
[09:00] <somsip> !ppa-purge | hellyeah
[09:00] <somsip> hellyeah: it looks like you need to add a package which is not supported by the PPA, so it's trying to fallback to the official package. And that's causing problems. This is why PPAs are troublesome
[09:01] <hellyeah> got it
[09:01] <KI7MT> XATRIX, I forgot to ask which server version are you running?
[09:01] <XATRIX> KI7MT: noapic doesn't help
[09:01] <XATRIX> Will try to inspect syslog now
[09:01] <somsip> hellyeah: just be aware, PPAs can mess things up. So be prepared for ugliness. Hopefully ppa-purge will work for you though
[09:01] <hellyeah> my /etc/apt/sources.list is empty
[09:01] <XATRIX> But don't think it's an app, cause app aps are killed already to system shutdown
[09:02] <hellyeah> i didnt install any php from ppa btw
[09:02] <XATRIX> SYSTEMD reports " * Will now halt"
[09:02] <grendal_prime>   php5-mysql
[09:02] <XATRIX> Only when everything except init process is down
[09:02] <somsip> hellyeah: you could try updating php5-common first then, but something has messed up somewhere...
[09:03] <XATRIX> Maybe i have to load APM module ?
[09:03] <grendal_prime> XATRIX,   put the lts on a stick ...load up and use the "try" option and see if you still have the problem
[09:03] <KI7MT> XATRIX, You could try:  [ sudo halt -P ]  as there's several bugs reported around this but Im uncertain if it's on all version for 12.04 only
[09:03] <hellyeah> the best thing i can fresh install i guess
[09:03] <XATRIX> grendal_prime: what's the difference between lts and latest one ?
[09:03] <XATRIX> 13.xx ?
[09:04] <grendal_prime> allot
[09:04] <KI7MT> Loads of changes
[09:04] <XATRIX> :(
[09:04] <hellyeah> when i try to update php5-common it ask to remove php5, php5-cli and libapache2-mod-php5{a}
[09:04] <somsip> hellyeah: if you're preapred to do that, maybe you should go with one of the suggestions. If it works, great. If it then breaks, you'll be reinstalling anyway
[09:04] <KI7MT> Peronally, I'd would not run a server on any fo the 13.xx series.
[09:04] <grendal_prime> just try it if it works..then your good.
[09:04] <hellyeah> okey
[09:04] <hellyeah> thanks
[09:04] <XATRIX> Ok, i'll try it as a last resort. But i'm interested to fix 13.xx version
[09:04] <grendal_prime> and the lts will be upgaded this next year.
[09:04] <somsip> hellyeah: sorry I didn't have anything more constructive
[09:05] <KI7MT> XATRIX, You may have to go to the ubuntu-server channel, as I'm at a loss on why i'ts faing to hault.
[09:06] <XATRIX> KI7MT: actually i have the same problem on :
[09:06] <KI7MT> .. failing to halt
[09:06] <XATRIX> xatrix@Acer-D255E:~$ cat /etc/issue
[09:06] <XATRIX> Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[09:06] <XATRIX> So, it's not actually server-version trouble
[09:06] <grendal_prime> ill bet it is..
[09:06] <XATRIX> I think it's a 3.x.x kernel problem
[09:07] <XATRIX> Or maybe 13.xx ubuntu scripts problem
[09:07] <KI7MT> XATRIX, all myu servers are on 12.04 still, i've not even attempted to install 13.xx anything, and wont do until 14.04 comes out.
[09:07] <grendal_prime> try that lts just try it on the usb stick and see if it works...boots up shuts down...whatever ..then at least you will know
[09:07] <XATRIX> Why not ?
[09:07] <somsip> KI7MT: ditto. Been playing with 14.04 in a VM the last few days
[09:07] <circle> Tex_Nick: yes the unallocated space is contiguous
[09:07] <grendal_prime> problems like this probably
[09:08] <XATRIX> grendal_prime: yes, seems like i have no option to try left. only lets
[09:08] <circle> Tex_Nick: what I want to do with it is split it up and format those splits
[09:08] <XATRIX> s/lets/lts
[09:08] <KI7MT> XATRIX, kernel issue is possible too.
[09:08] <grendal_prime> i use it every day..even on my deskops and laptops
[09:09] <grendal_prime> i use to use debian for a long time...
[09:09] <Tex_Nick> circle, are you doing this on a local box ?
[09:09] <circle> Tex_Nick: yes
[09:09] <KI7MT> XATRIX, just curious, what you get with this:  cat /etc/default/halt
[09:09] <grendal_prime> they have a very black and white...production vs testing  release cycle
[09:09] <circle> Tex_Nick: the box I'm talking to you on, in fzact
[09:10] <KI7MT> XATRIX, should get : HALT=poweroff
[09:10] <circle> Tex_Nick: just got a new build, installed windows, have been using it for a few weeks, no i want to install arch like i usually do
[09:10] <Tex_Nick> what ubuntu distro & DE ?
[09:10] <usuario_> olaaaaaa
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[09:10] <FloodBot1> usuario_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:11] <KurtGodel> I have a very easy question. Can somebody tell me why I am having this permission issue? http://tny.cz/5222fe72
[09:11] <KI7MT> XATRIX, 12.04 is well tested, adn LTS to LTS is alwo going to be well tested and supported, 12.04-server, probably the best choice right now. What in 13.xx do you need that 12.04 can't provide?
[09:11] <Tex_Nick> circle ... ohoh ... i'm NOT the one to help you with arch at all
[09:12] <grendal_prime> alrigt KI7MT im drinking  a plollygirl and hitting the sack.
[09:12] <KI7MT> grendal_prime, CUL
[09:12] <somsip> KurtGodel: you just added yourself to www-data group? Logout and back in again
[09:12] <ROPA> jhg
[09:12] <XATRIX> KI7MT: i'm not sure LTS support my PCIeX OCZ RevoDrive 3 SSD device :)
[09:12] <KurtGodel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6598701/
[09:12] <XATRIX> 13.xx does
[09:12] <KurtGodel> ahhh
[09:12] <KurtGodel> thanks  stupid me!
[09:13] <KurtGodel> Thanks :)
[09:13] <somsip> KI7MT: np
[09:13] <circle> Tex_Nick: lol, I still use ubuntu on some of my boxes
[09:13] <grendal_prime> peace love and BBQ....people.
[09:13] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:13] <cristian_c> I've tried bustle-dbus-monitor and bustle
[09:13] <cristian_c> In the various tests I've done, I have not seen activity about mouse and keyboard connected
[09:13] <KI7MT> It's not LTS, it's the kernel that will or will not support it, quick way to test, install it, or you cna go to the Kernel guys and work it that way.
[09:13] <cristian_c> devices work but are not announced in bustle
[09:14] <k1l_> circle: for arch linux questions please ask the arch support
[09:14] <circle> k1l_: not asking about anything related to arch linux
[09:14] <cristian_c> at the same time, the only information shown by bustle are those related to applications
[09:14] <cristian_c> may be bustle is not the right program to detect the activity of the devices?
[09:14] <cristian_c> and if so, what is the right program to monitor this activity?
[09:14] <XATRIX> KI7MT: i've invest about few hours to get used to 13.xx :D last night, and to setup  encrypted dm-crypt partition to install on :)))))
[09:14] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[09:15] <XATRIX> It's not a good idea to erase it again :) But seems like i have no option :(
[09:15] <KI7MT> XATRIX, Your wont see that much difference between the two .. nit from the comman-line anyway.
[09:15] <XATRIX> Yea
[09:16] <XATRIX> Ok, will try it :(
[09:17] <KI7MT> XATRIX, Just another fyi .. dm-crypt .. unless you really need it, adds a layer of complexity that really doesn't need to be there.
[09:21] <Tex_Nick> circle i'm sorry ... i just don't understand your situation ... please post to channel ... your current OS & or OS's (single or dual boot) ... if linux already installed ... what distro & desktop enviornment ... also HDD info
[09:22] <XATRIX> KI7MT: what do you mean, a level of complexity ?
[09:22] <circle> Tex_Nick: my situation isn't all that complicated, I just want to know if I can split the unformatted space in my HDD into a few partitions and format those partitions without losing my data
[09:22] <XATRIX> I need my rootfs patition to be encrypted.
[09:22] <XATRIX> But The datastorage will be not.
[09:23] <Tex_Nick> circle, short answer ... YES :)
[09:23] <XATRIX> I aware only for performance penalty i didn't have tested yet
[09:23] <somsip> circle: yes, but you can never total guarantee against data loss. I've done what you want to do with no problem using gparted \
[09:23] <KI7MT> XATRIX, .. Ok, that's normally the other way around .. normally /home encrypted, bad /root not.
[09:23] <KI7MT> and /root is not ...
[09:23] <circle> somsip: kk
[09:23] <circle> somsip: i assume gparted will tell me if I'm going to do anything that will lose me data
[09:24] <KI7MT> XATRIX, But' it's your server, so you can setup it up however ya need it.
[09:24] <somsip> circle: nope :) Usually it will all look fine, but not complete, and there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth
[09:25] <KI7MT> circle, no, gparted will only ask you if your sure you want to do something, so best idea is to have a backup.
[09:27] <circle> what actions would cause me to lose data? all I want to do is grab the giant 500GB of unpartitioned space and make it into a bunch of smaller formatted partitions
[09:28] <somsip> circle: bugs and errors happen. They've all been on here at some time. Power cut, cat rubbed the power cable...anything
[09:28] <somsip> circle: halfway through a disk process, some things can be damaging
[09:29] <circle> somsip: what do you mean half way through a disk process?
[09:29] <somsip> circle: partitioning
[09:29] <KI7MT> circle, or, simply selecting the wrong partition could cause all sorts of problems.
[09:29] <gordonjcp> circle: if it's unpartitioned, there can't be anything *that* interesting on it
[09:29] <circle> I've got half of it partitioned
[09:29] <circle> I'm using that partition right now
[09:30] <circle> the other half is unallocated space
[09:32] <somsip> circle: its more than likely going to be fine. But you need to be prepared for that very small chance it will mess up. So, backup
[09:32] <circle> somsip: nah, have nothing to back up with for now, plus there's nothing much valuable on here at the moment
[09:33] <KI7MT> tar -pcvzf XYZ.tar.gz ABC is a quick command that can say ya loads of time on the other side of bad things happening :-)
[09:34] <Tex_Nick> circle: you might want to paste HDD info to pastebin ... sudo fdisk -l ... so channel guru's have a better idea what you want to do ?
[09:35] <circle> i'm going to format now, let's see how it goes
[09:35] <KI7MT> I think we have it, he has a partition he wants to expand, most of the time, goes without any trouble.
[09:37] <gordonjcp> oh, he's off
[09:37] <gordonjcp> I was going to suggest turning the unpartitioned space into an LVM partition
[09:38] <ste22x> hello   anyone see me
[09:40] <Tex_Nick> that should be a relatively painless opperation if he does it correctly
[09:41] <KI7MT> Yeah, if ones doesn't do anything that's galacticly stupid
[09:42] <KI7MT> Which I've done on numerous occasion, thus Im always pushing "baskups" to folks doing things lie this.
[09:43] <cfhowlett> ste22x, yes we see you
[09:43] <param> hey
[09:44] <param> can we install paint in ubuntu ?
[09:44] <cfhowlett> KI7MT, someone said galactically stupid --- I've done it
[09:44] <cfhowlett> param, MS Paint?  no.  try Krita
[09:44] <cfhowlett> param, or mypaint
[09:44] <Tex_Nick> i'm about to delete a 100 GB win XP partion on grandkids pc ... with ubuntu 12.04 ... turn it into data space ... we do it all the time ... i guess "galacticly stupid" should be considered ... i've done that once ... ummm maybe twice lol
[09:44] <N3sh108> hello guys, I am working on a small script which gets the current IP address of wlan0 and sends it to the server with curl. It works fine by itself, but when I added it to crontab, it just sends an empty IP
[09:44] <k1l_> !pinta | param
[09:44] <cfhowlett> !paint
[09:45] <k1l_> param: see the program pinta
[09:45] <param> i am using pinta
[09:45] <param> but i loved paint ..
[09:45] <N3sh108> any idea? I dont see the reason why it shouldnt work
[09:46] <clypso> Hello. > ; D
[09:46] <cfhowlett> clypso, greetings
[09:46] <tdhz77> Trying to get triple monitor's to work: xorg file - > http://pastie.org/8562702
[09:47] <clypso> Just installed ubuntu. I did a ritualistic burning of all windows paraphernalia in the backyard
[09:47] <clypso> Very pleased
[09:47] <param> krita is of  330 MB ....its very heavy
[09:47] <KI7MT> N3sh108, whos the owner of the script?
[09:47] <param> any other solution folks ?
[09:47] <KI7MT> N3sh108, meaning, is it a user script or sudo script?
[09:47] <cfhowlett> param, paint is windows program.  wine MIGHT be able to run it
[09:48] <N3sh108> root I think
[09:48] <KI7MT> Why would ya need / want paint when you have Gimp ?
[09:49] <KI7MT> N3sh108, probable want to check it, aslo make sure your ABS paths are correct
[09:49] <N3sh108> KI7MT the script was created with root but it just has a ifconfig and curl, no sudos. Curl seems to work but not the ifconfif part
[09:50] <N3sh108> the script seems to be run properly = I see it in the DB
[09:50] <N3sh108> just empty space for IP.
[09:52] <elacheche_anis> Hey guys, I'm looking for a good documentation about the KERNEL HOT SWAPPING  but can't find any :/
[09:53] <KI7MT> N3sh108, when your running the script from an interactive shell, your /env/path vars are in play, cron does not use a shell, so it does not know where ifconfg / curl is, you need to gie it the paths.
[09:57] <N3sh108> so, no reason to not work?
[09:57] <Jordan_U> elacheche_anis: What do you mean by "kernel hot swapping"? Are you trying to hot swap a certain type of hardware? Trying to literally change kernels while the OS is running? Reboot the OS without rebooting the boot firmware? Something else?
[09:57] <KI7MT> N3sh108, that's the reason why when you run it manually, it worked, but form the cron it's not finding ifconfig and curl for extract the IP addys
[09:58] <N3sh108> oh ok. But curl worked without it. Ifconfig is built-in, so it should be there as well. Anyway is ifconfig in /usr/bin?
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> /sbin/ifconfig
[09:59] <KI7MT> N3sh108, Something like this, int the script itself: SHELL=/bin/sh PATH=/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> N3sh108: you can run:   which ifconfig    and it shows you
[10:00] <N3sh108> KI7MT but curl works and that's been added later while ifconfig is built-in, that's why that wouldnt be my first guess
[10:01] <N3sh108> thanks, Ill check later :)
[10:01] <KI7MT> N3sh108, from what you've said, if it does not find ifconfig, doesnt matter is curl works or not.
[10:03] <N3sh108> I understand but if crontab can see stuff in /usr/bin it seems unlikely that it cant see scripts in /sbin/ (thanks ActionParsnip)
[10:03] <N3sh108> but Ill try later ;)
[10:03] <KI7MT> N3sh108, in any case, that's the two most common issues with cron running scripts, path variables and absolute path names.
[10:03] <elacheche_anis> Jordan_U, it's exactly that "Trying to literally change kernels while the OS is running".. You know if the kernel is updates it can't be used unless you reboot.. and on a production server it's not a good way.. and you need to keep the uptime
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> elacheche_anis: there is a process for upgrading kernels inline
[10:04] <elacheche_anis> I was looking on the internet and I find that the thing is called hotswaping
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> elacheche_anis: look into ksplice. I dont like the idea but it may help
[10:04] <circle> Tex_Nick: I'm back!
[10:04] <Jordan_U> elacheche_anis: Not quite. What you most likely want is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ksplice .
[10:05] <k1l_> elacheche_anis: you are looking for ksplice
[10:05] <elacheche_anis> ActionParsnip, I don't like to use ksplice on my server.. it's not FOSS :/
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> Jordan_U: I think its terrifying
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> elacheche_anis: but it achieves the need......
[10:06] <elacheche_anis> ActionParsnip, Jordan_U  k1l_ if ksplice can do it so we can do the same thing manually.. :/
[10:06] <Tex_Nick> circle: that sounds like a GOOD thing ... everyting went ok ? ... at least you were able to boot ok :)
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> elacheche_anis: then make it yourself
[10:06] <k1l_> elacheche_anis: you can do it manually. but its not trivial to do so: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/32611/how-to-update-kernel-without-reboot-ksplice-alternative
[10:07] <elacheche_anis> Emmmm thx k1l_ for the link.. ActionParsnip that's why I'm asking.. May be someone else have did that before :p
[10:11] <KI7MT> I understand uptime is a big concern, but a scheduled reboot only takes a few short minutes, the impact of which is almost undetectable on the months logs.
[10:12] <KI7MT> One has to make the call on whether that Kernel update is absolutely needed or not.
[10:16] <elacheche_anis> +1 KI7MT
[10:18] <Jordan_U> elacheche_anis: Also, ideally the uptime of your critical services should not depend on the uptime of a single server.
[10:19] <elacheche_anis> Jordan_U, you're talking about load balancing?
[10:22] <alex116> hi, I need help with backports
[10:23] <alex116> the documentation says to just run make but backports says I shouldn't run make in the backports tree
[10:24] <aeon-ltd> alex116: so then don't do it in the backports tree
[10:25] <alex116> you mean like calling make from some other directory?
[10:25] <KI7MT> alex116, what kind of backports we talking about here, an applicaitons, repo backports, src backports what?
[10:25] <alex116> backports 3.12-rc7-1 kernel
[10:25] <alex116> I want to get the backports for a wifi driver
[10:26] <alex116> I was reading this: https://backports.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Documentation
[10:27] <KI7MT> alex116, and the documentation your referring to is the kernel compile docs?
[10:28] <XATRIX> What's the best idea why should i change server 13.xx to LTS ?
[10:28] <XATRIX> don't tell me, because it has working APM for your server ;)
[10:28] <alex116> I think it is the backports documentation. Under the section "Usage Guide" it says "Building backports follows the same build mechanism as building the Linux kernel. "
[10:29] <alex116> and then it lists how to build it
[10:29] <alex116> but the actual backports source complains
[10:29] <KI7MT> XATRIX, On sever, stability, bugs and security are top priority, so using bleeding edge distros compromise all three.
[10:30] <KI7MT> XATRIX, If however, your just playing / testing, it's not a problem at all.
[10:32] <KI7MT> alex116, been a while since I build UB kernels, so I'd have to go re-read, but, if the docs say not to run make in the source tree, cd out of it and provide the path as needed.
[10:33] <KI7MT> alex116, also, ubuntu-kernel maybe the best place for these questions, although some folks here may compile their own.
[10:33] <alex116> k thx I'll try there
[10:46] <tdhz77> Could anybody help me setup 3 monitors on Ubuntu 12.04? I have 2x Nvidia GTX 670's w/ Nvidia 331.20 drivers installed. I get 2 black X's on my TwinView screens. Thanks.
[10:49] <Tex_Nick> tdhz77: what have you tried so far ... i presume "system settings/displays" hasn't helped ?
[10:50] <tdhz77> Tex_Nick Different drivers. Different xorg files. Changing between xinerama and twinview. Now that I have Nvidia 3.31 I don't have option for twinview anymore. I'm thinking about running ' sudo nvidia-xconfig --no-sli --no-twinview --separate-x-screens --xinerama'
[10:51] <tdhz77> Tex_Nick I would like 3D compositing if all possible. Twinview doesn't really help me with 3 monitors.
[10:52] <tdhz77> Here is my xorg.conf : http://pastie.org/8562854
[10:57] <ubuntu-studio> news
[11:00] <g0bl1n> need to update BIOS. Don't have windows on this PC. Any idea ?
[11:00] <g0bl1n> motherboard BIOS
[11:04] <Beldar> g0bl1n, check for a bootable bios update.
[11:05] <g0bl1n> Beldar, seem to only have BIN file
[11:05] <Beldar> g0bl1n, HOw much have you researched this?
[11:06] <g0bl1n> Beldar, Asus site...
[11:06] <g0bl1n> askubuntu
[11:07] <g0bl1n> trying with FreeDOS
[11:08] <N3sh108> I am having some graphical issues after installing some updates on 12.04. How do I find which packages are messing around?
[11:08] <N3sh108> I basically can enter the login screen and .xsession doesnt say much
[11:09] <Beldar> N3sh108, Any kernel updates in those?
[11:12] <N3sh108> not sure, I just run the software updater in ubuntu, after updating the apt list
[11:13] <N3sh108> 611 updates and it got screwed
[11:13] <Beldar> N3sh108, was this a fresh install? did you see any held packages IE a partial upgrade?
[11:14] <N3sh108> it's on a PandaBoard, I think it might be related to unity, but not sure. The problem is that I need to use the GPU
[11:14] <N3sh108> it was yes
[11:14] <Beldar> N3sh108, A partial?
[11:15] <N3sh108> not really
[11:15] <N3sh108> everything seemed to be installed correctly
[11:15] <Beldar> N3sh108, read the questions clearly, I asked two.
[11:15] <N3sh108> fresh and no partial
[11:16] <Beldar> N3sh108, had to have been kernel upgrades there then, Have you installed any graphic drivers, if so from where?
[11:17] <N3sh108> just updated the system, nothing manual
[11:17] <Beldar> N3sh108, and what is a panda board?
[11:17] <N3sh108> I write down everything I install
[11:18] <N3sh108> an ARM board, like raspberrypi
[11:18] <logical_> hy ppl, I have a problem with my cd/dvd it wont recognize any cd / dvd, I am using linux mint (i am a new user, and no one is responding on mint support chat :S) can anyone help me plz? Also I am a  new linux user
[11:19] <Beldar> N3sh108, Yeah I see that now had you invstigated installing ubuntu on it, and if there were any specificities needed?
[11:19] <cfhowlett> logical_, good news: ubuntu supports ubuntu users!  bad news: mint isn't ubuntu ...  consider your options.
[11:21] <Beldar> N3sh108, for example I find this info. http://omappedia.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_12.04_on_Pandaboard_with_TI_ppa
[11:22] <Beldar> I find a lot of links on pandaboard and 12.04/ubuntu on google
[11:30] <zimeng> anyone using w3m?
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> logical_: mint isnt supported here
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> !mint | logical_
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> logical_: mint has its own community and own support network
[11:32] <logical_> guy you dont need to say it 300x times i understand, i came here because no one responded at mint support chat -.-'
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> logical_: doesnt make it supported here
[11:32] <gordonjcp> logical_: replace Mint with Ubuntu
[11:32] <gordonjcp> logical_: that'll fix it
[11:39] <yossarianuk> hi - can I use do-release-upgrade to update an EOL version of ubuntu to another EOL version ?
[11:39] <yossarianuk> i.e
[11:39] <yossarianuk> from 10.10 -> 11.04
[11:39] <yossarianuk> (I ultimately want it to reach 12.04)
[11:40] <Beldar> !eol-upgrade | yossarianuk
[11:40] <Beldar> !eol | Duck Dynasty
[11:40] <Beldar> yossarianuk, hehe that was for you
[11:40] <cfhowlett> yossarianuk, possible but absolutely not advised.  MUCH better to just download the current LTS via torrent and clean install.
[11:41] <yossarianuk> cfhowlett: cheers - its for a server in a remote DC.... No easy access .
[11:41] <yossarianuk> (today)
[11:41] <XATRIX> Can i actually update my LTS-server to server-13.xx ?
[11:41] <yossarianuk> yes
[11:41] <cfhowlett> yossarianuk, d'oh!  well, you are in for some pain ..
[11:42] <cfhowlett> XATRIX, of course.  However 13.10 has only 9 months support so ... perhaps LTS is better?
[11:42] <dufa> /quit
[11:43] <yossarianuk> XATRIX: edit  /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[11:43] <XATRIX> cfhowlett: But after 9 months will pass, there will be 13.11; 13.12 ... ?
[11:43] <XATRIX> I simply upgrade it and will be happy
[11:43] <cfhowlett> XATRIX, releases are in april and October ...
[11:44] <XATRIX> So, what's the trouble with upgrading ? Why LTS is obviously better than ?
[11:45] <cfhowlett> XATRIX, LTS is supported for considerably longer - a factor in maintaining a working server, yes?
[11:45] <XATRIX> Hm.... You mean, non-LTS has no support ?
[11:46] <mah454> Hello
[11:46] <mah454> I need alternative for Teamviewer .
[11:46] <cfhowlett> XATRIX, 9 months versus 5 years on the server ... do the math :)
[11:46] <mah454> what is your idea ?
[11:47] <XATRIX> cfhowlett: no no... I talk about after 9 months past, i will have to completely reinstall my server ?
[11:48] <cfhowlett> XATRIX, you don't have to but running an unsupported OS on a server is generally considered bad form
[11:50] <yossarianuk> mah454: have you tried nomachine.com ?
[11:50] <XATRIX> You mean i will receive no updates more, sine 9m past
[11:50] <XATRIX> right ?
[11:50] <cfhowlett> XATRIX, exactly - including no security updates
[11:50] <XATRIX> But i simply can do apt-get dist-upgrade, and i'm back in business again... no ?
[11:50] <yossarianuk> yes
[11:50] <yossarianuk> you have 3 months....
[11:50] <mah454> yossarianuk:  nomachin need valid ip address . I use invalid .
[11:51] <yossarianuk> mah454: sorry not understanding you.
[11:51] <mah454> can use nomachin with invalid ip address ? (non internet ip address)
[11:52] <mah454> like teamviewer (with ID or username or ...)
[11:52] <cfhowlett> XATRIX, actually dist-upgrade will only upgrade the current release to the most recent packages but yes, if you're attentive you can certainly upgrade from distro to distro.
[11:53] <XATRIX> If i run dist-upgrade on LTS , will i get 13.xx ?
[11:54] <cfhowlett> XATRIX,  depends on your update settings.  you can set it to upgrade LTS to LTS to update to the next release.  BUT if you forget and DON'T upgrade during the next release window, you have to clean install.  It will NOT skip over a release.
[11:55] <XATRIX> :(
[11:56] <cfhowlett> XATRIX, is this your server?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> XATRIX: dist-upgrade will upgrade your packages in 12.04, if you want to upgrade from 12.04 you can upgrade to 14.04 (LTS to LTS) or to 12.10 (next release). If you want 13.10 you will need to upgrade sequentially to each release
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> XATRIX: or, just wait til April next year then upgrade in one jump
[11:56] <XATRIX> cfhowlett: yea
[11:57] <SuperTyp> how can I stop a not responding process?
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> SuperTyp: kill it, if it is a gui app then run:  xkill    and click it
[11:58] <SuperTyp> how? :>
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> SuperTyp: how what?
[11:59] <cfhowlett> XATRIX, agree with Action Parsnip's recommendation.  For now, run sudo apt-get update        sudo apt-get upgrade    sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:59] <cfhowlett> XATRIX, when 14.04 comes out in April, Christmas time!
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> SuperTyp: is the thing you want to stop a graphical application?
[12:00] <SuperTyp_> just killed firefox :D
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> SuperTyp: so why ask 'how'?
[12:00] <XATRIX> Alright, let's try to use this version
[12:00] <SuperTyp_> ActionParsnip: obv I didnt do it right
[12:00] <XATRIX> I've just moved from RHEL/Centos/Debian (2.6) kernels, to Ubuntu, because of unsupported hardware...
[12:00] <SuperTyp_> so how do I kill the window I really want to kill?
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> SuperTyp_: you could bin a shortcut key to run xkill :)
[12:01] <XATRIX> So, i'm a bit new to ubuntu policies
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> SuperTyp_: is the application a GUI app?
[12:01] <SuperTyp_> ActionParsnip: I am fine with the terminal, just tell me how I select the right window that I want to kill
[12:01] <SuperTyp_> ActionParsnip: yes
[12:01] <DLC> XATRIX: dist-upgrade is not the same as do-release-upgrde
[12:01] <SuperTyp_> ActionParsnip: it is a GUI started from netbeans
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> SuperTyp_: ps -ef | grep -i netbeans
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> SuperTyp_: ps -ef | grep -i netbeans | awk {'print $2'}
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> SuperTyp_: will show the PID, you can then kill the PID
[12:03] <Wiz_KeeD> Guys, if i put a hdd caddy in my notebook and install a ssd in place of where the hdd is now...can i basically UNMOUNT the phisical hdd from the caddy so it stops draining power and use just the ssd...then mount the hdd only when I need it?
[12:03] <DLC> SuperTyp_: another easy way of managing / killing processes is through htop
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: sudo umount /mount/point
[12:03] <SuperTyp_> ActionParsnip: it shows me 3 PIDs
[12:03] <Wiz_KeeD> ActionParsnip, and that's it? :O
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: well, yeah. You will need to use the right mount point obviously
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> SuperTyp_: then run it without the awk to see what is running. If necessary kill all 3
[12:04] <Wiz_KeeD> and it will actually cut power to it and disable it completly?
[12:04] <Wiz_KeeD> So in theory my battery life should extend tremendously and the heat production will also lower
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: you said yu wanted to unmount it, not sure if it will power it off
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: what usb caddy do you have?
[12:05] <Ben64> Wiz_KeeD: if its unmounted it should power down, if not you can probably power it down with hdparm
[12:06] <DLC> Wiz_KeeD: I'm not sure how much difference you get in power use from a hdd vs ssd. Silicon heats up too you know (that's why GPUs have fans on them )
[12:07] <Wiz_KeeD> DLC, what you say makes sense, at least that's that they are saying
[12:07] <Wiz_KeeD> HDD caddy that replaces the optical drive with a bay where you can place your hard-drive in
[12:07] <Wiz_KeeD> that kind of caddy ActionParsnip not usb
[12:07] <XATRIX> DLC: dist-upgrade proceed within the same major version. And do-release-upgarde is between ?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: i'd try the unmount first, the kernel may power it down for you
[12:07] <cfhowlett> XATRIX, correct
[12:08] <Wiz_KeeD> ActionParsnip, i'll get back to you guys once it arrives and it works...hopefully!
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: I dont think you will save as much power as you think]
[12:09] <DLC> XATRIX: usually, when new versions of packages incur additional dependencies, you'll need to do a dist-upgrade too, as far as i understand.
[12:09] <Wiz_KeeD> m3h, the idea was not to draining power from two places when I only need one most of the time
[12:12] <akosicarl> goodevening can anyone help me with my ubuntu.. im new at using ubuntu...
[12:12] <cfhowlett> !ask|akosicarl,
[12:12] <XATRIX> Maybe you can advice me some Virtual Server Environment, based on Ubutntu + > 3.10 kernel ?
[12:13] <XATRIX> Like i was running proxmox installation for openvz + kvm
[12:13] <XATRIX> It has 2.6.32 kernel, and doesn't support my HW
[12:13] <Wiz_KeeD> ActionParsnip, one last question...if everything goes well and the caddy comes as well as the ssd...is there a possibility to just copy paste the boot information and the ubuntu installation (maybe also the windows) on the ssd file?
[12:13] <Wiz_KeeD> Like Drive C of windows and Ubuntu, sort of like transplat everything so I don't have to install everything from scratch yet again
[12:14] <deedee> hm, if i'm looking for an extremely small ubuntu distro, just for python & web developement (ftp, editor like gedit/sublime, python 2.7+, xfce) - what would be the best choice in perspective: !tiny! (less than 300mb, smaller is better)? no libreoffice, etc required
[12:14] <cfhowlett> deedee, seen the DELL Sputnik custom developer's ISO?  quite easy to add the packages to, say, xubuntu ...
[12:14] <Chrubuntu1337> i need help with the Pixel Shader On Wine
[12:15] <deedee> cfhowlett, thx, i'll take a look into it now
[12:16] <Chrubuntu1337> Im Having Issues With Wine .. it Says to Disable Pixel Shader To Stop Invisibility ... but i dont have the option
[12:18] <Wiz_KeeD> http://pastie.org/8563019
[12:18] <Wiz_KeeD> Does this mean I have a sata-III port and a SATA-I ? :O
[12:19] <deedee> cfhowlett, even xubuntu neeeds 4,4gb space as far as i can see it?
[12:19] <deedee> 12.04 takes 2gb
[12:19] <akosicarl> my windows 8 had malwares and trojans that entered the root and other things.. when i re installed the windows 8 i cleaned the whole disk but somehow windows hid a part of the disk so what i did was i installed ubuntu and tried cleaning the partition from ubuntu.. but now thesame files are re appearing here and my ubuntu is not working properly and my browser keeps redirecting
[12:20] <Ben64> akosicarl: uh, so whats the problem with ubuntu you're having?
[12:21] <Wiz_KeeD> How can I fully determine if my notebook has sata-II or sata-III chipset?
[12:21] <Ben64> look up hardware specs
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> Wiz_KeeD: manufacturer website
[12:23] <vnc786> how do u mount partition which is created in XP now connected as secondary partition in ubuntu 12.04 64 bit. tried this http://tinyurl.com/lmj3fs8
[12:23] <DLC> deedee: take a look at distrowatch.com i doubt you will find a ubuntu distro that fits in 300 mb but there are others that will
[12:23] <akosicarl> theres different files and folders being created and some settings are being changed like the update settings and some packages are being installed without my permission
[12:24] <Anuska> question: why in ubuntu: i have installed grub , and when i start the computer wait a lot time for run grub?
[12:24] <deedee> DLC, the porblem with distrowatch is, that you cannot select size as a parameter to search
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> vnc786: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[12:24] <cfhowlett> akosicarl, in UBUNTU?
[12:24] <Anuska> in debian run fast
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> Anuska: run:   dmesg | less      read the boot messages, look for large gaps in the left hand colomn
[12:25] <vnc786> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l
[12:25] <deedee> maybe is should try puppy,bodhi,picuntu or whatever instead
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> deedee: if you want, you dont have to tell us
[12:25] <Anuska> Question: what is the best way to install gnome ?
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> vnc786: is the NTFS partition healthy?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Anuska: there is no single best way to install anything
[12:26] <cfhowlett> Anuska, sudo apt-get install gnome ought to do it
[12:26] <DLC> deedee: puppy linux os about 85 mb :)
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Anuska: the default Ubuntu install comes with Gnome
[12:26] <deedee> ActionParsnip, i was looking for some suggestion to the requirements that i wrote...
[12:26] <deedee> yepp, dlc, sth like that
[12:26] <Anuska> ActionParsnip, i install debian server
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> deedee: Lubuntu is fo rlow end boxes and 14.04 Lubuntu will be LTS
[12:26] <vnc786> ActionParsnip: yes
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> Anuska: then its not Ubuntu, its debian
[12:27] <Anuska> ups
[12:27] <Anuska> i install ubuntu server
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> Anuska: Debian support is in #debian
[12:27] <Anuska> :)
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> Anuska: debian support is in #debian
[12:27] <Anuska> i install ubuntu server
[12:27] <Anuska> i type wrong
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> Anuska: I dont believe you at all
[12:27] <Anuska> becouse yestarday install debian
[12:27] <cfhowlett> Anuska, please paste the output of lsb_release -a
[12:27] <k1l_> Anuska: what does "uname -a" give you?
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> Anuska: and if you wanted a dekstop OIS why did you install the server OS?
[12:27] <Anuska> Description:    Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS
[12:27] <Anuska> Release:        12.04
[12:28] <Anuska> is precise
[12:28] <deedee> i don't need LTS, i need a lightweigt ubuntu based distro running in my virtualbox on my low-on-space-ultrabook
[12:28] <akosicarl> yes is ubuntu.. some dll files and some linux files too.. it started when i opened firefox
[12:28] <Anuska> :)
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> Anuska: I suggest you reinstall with the desktop OS and you will be fine
[12:28] <Anuska>  3.8.0-29-generic #42~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Wed Aug 14 16:19:23 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[12:28] <Ben64> deedee: well this is probably not the right place to ask. any ubuntu distro will be over 300MB
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> Anuska: why did you instal the server OS when you want a desktop OS
[12:29] <deedee> that's sad, i didn't know that
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> Anuska: you wont gain anything doing the installthe way you are doing it
[12:29] <Ben64> deedee: maybe ask in #linux or something?
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> Anuska: what were you thinking you were going to gain, exactly?
[12:29] <deedee> hm, k thx
[12:30] <Anuska> install gnome classic
[12:30] <akosicarl> how do i check my system?
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> Anuska: you can do that in the Unity sessiojn
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> Anuska: install gnome-panel and lightdm   you'll be fine
[12:30] <Anuska> thanks
[12:30] <DLC> deedee: yeah, i couldn't find a ubuntu based distro with an iso smaller than 730 mb
[12:31] <cfhowlett> !mini
[12:31] <vnc786> dolphin file manager also gives error
[12:31] <cfhowlett> deedee, see the mini version perhaps
[12:32] <Guest9727> ciao
[12:32] <VictorCL> I need a command in linux that I can count how many files are that starts with a word ,is there such command?
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> VictorCL: ls | grep ^word | wc -l
[12:32] <DLC> cfhowlett: that's pretty neat
[12:32] <LjL> VictorCL: there isn't a specific command but it should be easy enough to build, do you mean in a single directory?
[12:32] <LjL> VictorCL: if in a single directory, the above should indeed work
[12:32] <VictorCL> ok thanks
[12:33] <LjL> VictorCL: otherwise, try "find | grep '^word' | wc -l" instead
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> VictorCL: simples bash stuff
[12:33] <VictorCL> ActionParsnip thanks your command worked
[12:33] <bobo_> hello
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> VictorCL: LjL's will search below the pwd for files in the subdirectories
[12:34] <VictorCL> it was just one directory
[12:34] <cfhowlett> bobo_, greetings
[12:35] <akosicarl> or how do i restore or re install ubuntu?
[12:36] <bobo_> j
[12:36] <cfhowlett> akosicarl, reinstall?  make a bootable USB, reboot and install ...
[12:37] <linu1> hi i have insert my hp pendrive into my ubuntu pc it listed in lsusb and also dmesg,but there is no device in /dev like sd.... please see  http://pastebin.com/StKGSNgr can you help me to solve
[12:37] <akosicarl> i tried creating a bootable USB but it never finishes.
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> linu1: when you last unplugged it from a PC, what steps didyou take. What file system is it using?
[12:37] <mhr> I have a script referring to an executable file at some line, but i am getting "no such file or directory" error. But when I check the file, it exists at that location. What can be the problem
[12:37] <cfhowlett> akosicarl, could be a bad USB, could be a bad ISO ...
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> mhr: have you addressed it absolutely?
[12:38] <mhr> ActionParsnip, yes
[12:38] <akosicarl> i downloaded the iso from the ubuntu site..
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> mhr: as in from /  and not using ~/Downloads   for example?
[12:39] <cfhowlett> akosicarl,  and then you ran the recommended md5sum check, rigth?
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> akosicarl: did you MD5 test it?
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> mhr: is the file marked as executable?
[12:39] <mhr> ActionParsnip, yes.
[12:39] <akosicarl> im sooo sorry i dont know what that is.. ive only been using linux for 3 days
[12:40] <mhr> ActionParsnip, yes. the same is working fine on other machine
[12:40] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|akosicarl,
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> akosicarl: MD5 summing is not Linux specific. You can MD5 in Windows too. So being new to Linux is not a factor here
[12:41] <mhr> ActionParsnip, I searched and found someone referring to 32 bit and 64 bit problem, can that be the problem?
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> mhr: is the file 32bit?
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> mhr: and is your Ubuntu 32bit?
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> mhr: the 'file' command will tell you the arch of the file. uname -m  will tell you the arch of your ubuntu
[12:42] <linu1> ActionParsnip, last time also pendrive did not detect in /dev so i just unplugged it, and it uses fat32.
[12:42] <akosicarl> oh.. i didnt know that.. sorry, im still trying to learn how to clean and maintain my computer..
[12:43] <mhr> ActionParsnip, ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.24, BuildID[sha1]=0x0da9a927966e8d292c20d7874cf789f61acccc08, not stripped
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> linu1: i'd fsck it, make sure the file system is healthy
[12:43] <mhr> ActionParsnip, x86_64
[12:43] <akosicarl> thank you very much for the help.. ill try the sugestions..
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> mhr: ok there is your issue
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> mhr: works on the other system as it will probably be 32bit
[12:44] <akosicarl> how do i check my system if its working properly?
[12:44] <mhr> ActionParsnip, i686 is uname -m o/p on the machine it works
[12:44] <cfhowlett> akosicarl, turn it on and use it.
[12:45] <mhr> ActionParsnip, how can I solve this on 64 bit machine.
[12:45] <akosicarl> ok.. how do i check whats wrong if its not working properly?
[12:45] <cfhowlett> akosicarl, launch items from the terminal and note any error messages
[12:47] <akosicarl> how do i lauch items from terminal?
[12:47] <cfhowlett> akosicarl, open terminal.  type firefox   (example)   press enter
[12:49] <akosicarl> ok.. i cannot write anything on my terminal..and its not displaying anything
[12:53] <akosicarl> hello?
[12:53] <fidel__> hi
[12:53] <mhr> My above issue seems to be 32 bit executable file being executed on 64 bit machine.
[12:53] <fidel__> !ask | akosicarl
[12:54] <mhr> how can i solve to run the 32 bit file on 64 bit machine
[12:54] <VlperX> anyone know if wget's --no-check-certificate has an actual flag?
[12:54] <mhr> Also will 64 bit executable file execute fine on both 64 and 32 bit machines?
[12:54] <VlperX> i'd rather put -n or something, instead of that
[12:55] <akosicarl> i wanted to launch something in the terminal but when i opened the terminal its just a blank screen and i cant even type anything
[12:55] <Anuska> i type: apt-get install gnome
[12:55] <Anuska> but X not start
[12:55] <fidel__> !detail | Anuska
[12:55] <OerHeks> mhr 64 bit executable will not run on 32 bit
[12:56] <fidel__> !details | Anuska
[12:56] <cfhowlett> akosicarl, screen shot
[12:56] <Anuska> i have 64
[12:56] <Anuska> I install ubuntu server and i want desktop i type: sudo apt-get install gnome
[12:56] <akira__JP> http://ctrlv.in/272374
[12:57] <akosicarl> this may sound weird but can u teach me how to do the screen shot?
[12:57] <fidel__> Anuska: Anuska tryi nstalling ubuntu-desktop
[12:57] <nashant> akosicarl: the print screen button?
[12:57] <fidel__> this will result in a pretty big desktop environment including several packages
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> mhr: you will need all the 32bit deps the application needs
[12:58] <k1l> Anuska: you were already told what to install. please read the answers when you ask for support
[12:58] <k1l> Anuska: <ActionParsnip> Anuska: install gnome-panel and lightdm   you'll be fine
[12:58] <nashant> Anybody know if it's possible to switch users in the same way as switching workspaces? I want to just ctrl+alt+arrow to a different user
[12:58] <k1l> !ot | akira__JP
[12:58] <Anuska> k
[13:00] <mao_> did  i  use  ''  sudo dd if=slacko-5.6-4G-NON-PAE.iso  of=/dev/sdb"   for   puppy    to  usbflash ??
[13:00] <akosicarl> the print screen button doesnt work
[13:00] <cfhowlett> akosicarl, look under accessories or in the dash for screenshot
[13:00] <k1l> mao_: ask the puppy support what is the best way to handle their isos
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> nashant: su username    and the terminal is now running as the username you su'd to.
[13:02] <kskksksk> Hi, all i have two problems, don't know i am at the right place or not, my first problem is that i am using sakis3g script to connect to internet and it is doing it's job very well than network manager, the problem is that i want to run only one window of application, i.e. when i click on the desktop icon, only one window should open, if it is already running then the window which is minimized or running should open, how to do that in ubuntu,  i have no idea, h
[13:03] <renato> ei
[13:06] <gordonjcp> kskksksk: that's what the launcer is for
[13:06] <gordonjcp> *launcher
[13:07] <kskksksk> gordonjcp: i didn't understand, i have made a shortcut on desktop of sakis 3g, but if i click accidently, it open one more instance of program
[13:07] <kskksksk> i can see the program window from launcher, but i usually
[13:08] <kskksksk> click icons on the desktop , i was a windows user
[13:08] <nortonspeal> hello world!
[13:09]  * Anuska hello
[13:10] <grapetiser> hello there
[13:17] <dozn> what's the channel for ubuntu offtopic?
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> !offtopic | dozn
[13:17] <dozn> thanks
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> :)
[13:20] <nashant> ActionParsnip: Not terminal, desktop
[13:20] <AndIRC> test
[13:20] <BluesKaj> Howsy all
[13:20] <AndIRC> mm
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> nashant: yes, you can run GUI apps as the user you changed to and they will run as that user.
[13:21] <BluesKaj> need coffee!
[13:22] <Anuska> question: i have ati x1600 16500 video , is compatible with ubuntu?
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> Anuska: yes, you will probably use the open source driver
[13:23] <kskksksk> gordonjcp: what about  other problem, which is related with pidgin
[13:23] <nashant> ActionParsnip: aha! How can I do that as a bash script? I tried echo <pass> | su <user> <command> but it told me there was no xorg started
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> nashant: sudo su name -c "command"
[13:24] <cabezzza> Hi, I'm having an issue with the number of open files in . I've modified /etc/security/limits.conf with nofile 70000.
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> nashant: sudo name -c "command"    may do it too
[13:24] <nashant> great, cheers. I'll give it a try
[13:24] <kskksksk> pidgin is not detecting network , when connected with sakis3g
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> nashant: you have a TRUE multiuser OS, so you can do stuff like this. Unlike Windows which is not true multi-user, it fakes it
[13:24] <cabezzza> The problem is, i can see this nomber modified only if I'm logged as root using sudo -i
[13:25] <cabezzza> but, if I just do su, and execute ulimit -a I can only see 1024
[13:25] <nashant> ActionParsnip: Just switched to Ubuntu full time (with a win7 vm for my network scanner) and much better
[13:25] <cabezzza> I'm missing something?
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> cabezzza: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[13:25] <cabezzza> one sec
[13:26] <cabezzza> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> cabezzza: maybe its a permissions thing, maybe only root can read the setting
[13:26] <cabezzza> ActionParsnip: sorry, I don't get that... what seeting do you mean?
[13:27] <sn33zy> hey i am trying to figure out where to put the newrez script after i login so it can auto-run and change the resolution.  where do i find the file that handles the login procedure after coming out of suspend?
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> cabezzza: the one you are seeing that you cannot see as user....
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> sn33zy: it doesnt matter where it goes
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> sn33zy: as long as you reference it in your config then it will be used
[13:28] <sn33zy> ActionParsnip, i dont what file to edit to execute the script...
[13:29] <sn33zy> ActionParsnip, which config file?
[13:29] <kskksksk> ActionParsnip: pidgin is not detecting network when connected with sakis3g
[13:30] <codephobic> hi
[13:30] <Zap-W> what does raring ubuntu use for init script?
[13:30] <Zap-W> upstart?
[13:30] <k1l> yep
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> sn33zy: so its for when you wake up from suspend?
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> kskksksk: do you have web access in other apps?
[13:31] <sn33zy> ActionParsnip, newrez is the script that I want to correct the resolution when I come out of suspend.  i think it would be best to execute it after the login process...
[13:31] <rampage_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRHwe-7Qq8M'
[13:31] <sn33zy> ActionParsnip, i just do not have a clue about the config files yet.
[13:31] <rampage_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRHwe-7Qq8M
[13:31] <FloodBot1> rampage_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> sn33zy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/92218/how-to-execute-a-command-after-resume-from-suspend
[13:32] <k1l> !ot | rampage_
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> sn33zy: you will need to add a file in /etc/pm/sleep.d    to then run the script, there are certain layouts you need
[13:32] <rampage_> https://encyclopediadramatica.es/Linux_for_Niggers
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> sn33zy: the page shows how to lay it out
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> sn33zy: guess how I found that page.....?
[13:33] <sn33zy> sn33zy, the ad annoying google search... :/
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> sn33zy: exactly
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> sn33zy: so, wy could I find that and you couldn't when we both use the same internet and same google?
[13:34] <andyfied> no one uses the same google
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> sn33zy: searched for "ubuntu run command after wakeup from suspend"
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> andyfied: ;)
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> sn33zy: top link for me
[13:34] <sn33zy> ActionParsnip, not everyone is as smart as you possibly so you are making the assumption that I know exactly the same knowledge of you.  if you dislike helping people, stuff it
[13:35] <kskksksk> ActionParsnip:sorry for my late reply, but other applications have access, like terminal , synaptic and chrome
[13:35] <andyfied> every search is influenced by previous searches. a friend of mine got excited because his website started going up the serps when he searched for it
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> sn33zy: but the search is so simple, its not about being smart, the term I searched for is very english and to the point
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> andyfied: http://dontbubble.me
[13:35] <sn33zy> ActionParsnip, like i said, if you have problem helping people, just stuff it
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> kskksksk: you use a proxy for web access?
[13:35] <kskksksk> no
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> sn33zy: im happy to help, just flabbergasted how you couldnt find that page
[13:36] <kskksksk> i am not using any proxy
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> kskksksk: can you ping the servers you are trying to connect to?
[13:36] <sn33zy> ActionParsnip, well i dont get this page
[13:36] <sn33zy> ActionParsnip, something about making a file ... i hope I don't screw anything up
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> sn33zy: thats the google bubble affecting you, but there are plenty of pages about this
[13:37] <kskksksk> ActionParsnip: when modem gets detected by modem manager, and when i get it connected using network manager, pidgin works but when i use sakis3g script to connect to internet , it doesn't detect network, while other applications are detecting well
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> kskksksk: what does the script do?
[13:38] <kskksksk> sakis3g script is to connect to internet, it prepare modem, usb-modeswitch something, it works for me when network manager fails to detect network
[13:38] <kskksksk> modem
[13:38] <kskksksk> *
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> kskksksk: then I would contact the author of the script and report the issue
[13:39] <kskksksk> script is working well, ActionParsnip
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> kskksksk: but it stops your application connecting
[13:39] <kskksksk> ActionParsnip: all applications except pidgin are detecting network
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> kskksksk: do other chat clients work ok?
[13:39] <kskksksk> i have not tried other chat clients, empathy were there but i uninstalled it
[13:40] <kskksksk> i specially didn't checked with empathy , i didn't like empathy, it is buggy  and irriatating
[13:40] <theadmin> It's a long-lasting issue with Pidgin. It seems to check NetworkManager for the connection status if it's present. If you are connecting somehow else, not with NetworkManager, but NM is running, Pidgin will become unusable.
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> kskksksk: may be worth a try, see if it is specific to pidgin
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> kskksksk: maybe the pidgin PPA for a newer version will be friendlier
[13:41] <theadmin> Ah yes, an update may resolve it
[13:41] <kskksksk> theadmin: should i stop network manager, but i use network  manager for other stuff also, like wifi or wired, sakis3g is only for wireless 3g modems
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> !info pidgin precise
[13:42] <kskksksk> theadmin: but it is not showing a updated version in synaptic
[13:42] <theadmin> kskksksk: You need to follow the instructions on the website (http://pidgin.im) to get the update.
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> kskksksk: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pidgin-developers/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:42] <theadmin> kskksksk: If that doesn't help, then stop NM when not using it
[13:43] <kskksksk> theadmin: this is not what i want, thanks for the information
[13:43] <theadmin> I had that issue way back in Jaunty. It's surprising they still didn't fix this.
[13:43] <kskksksk> i don't want to stop network manager, because it is also for wifi, wired connections etc
[13:44] <theadmin> kskksksk: You can start it later. But try to update Pidgin first.
[13:44] <theadmin> kskksksk: It may resolve it
[13:44] <kskksksk> let me check
[13:45] <Guest88646> Тук-тук...
[13:45] <theadmin> kskksksk: Ah. Pidgin has a -f option that will cause it to ignore NM.
[13:45] <theadmin> kskksksk: Update your menu entries to use that.
[13:46] <kskksksk> theadmin: how to do that??
[13:46] <theadmin> kskksksk: sudo nano /usr/share/applications/pidgin.desktop, find the line that starts with Exec= and at the end, add -f (if there is a %f or %u at the end, then add -f before that)
[13:47] <kskksksk> theadmin: then it will start detecting network from sakis3g
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: nice one (mental note)
[13:47] <kskksksk> ??
[13:47] <theadmin> kskksksk: It will, yup.
[13:47] <xorwitch> i compiled a application from source code, but cant run it through terminal, what do i nedd to do, to link it
[13:48] <kskksksk> theadmin: let me check, right now i will have to disconnect because i am connected using network manager
[13:48] <kskksksk> i will be right there after few moments
[13:48] <theadmin> kskksksk: You also have to close and restart Pidgin :D
[13:48] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Thanks.
[13:49] <theadmin> xorwitch: How are you running it?
[13:49] <theadmin> xorwitch: And where is it located?
[13:50] <xorwitch> just typing the name, its located in /usr/share, i know the location. But i dont know what to search in google
[13:50] <xorwitch> theadmin: is it called, symlink
[13:50] <theadmin> xorwitch: Why is it in /usr/share? Binaries should go to /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin if compiled manually
[13:51] <xorwitch> theadmin: so should i copy it to /usr/bin
[13:51] <theadmin> xorwitch: But generally, you have two solutions: 1) sudo ln -s /path/to/your/application /usr/local/bin/application OR 2) add the folder the app is in to $PATH, but ONLY do that if there's only executable files in that directory, or weird stuff will start happening
[13:51] <Strit> isn't symlink an already existing application/command? :P
[13:52] <xorwitch> theadmin: thank you,  will also copy it to /usr/bin thanks for the tip
[13:53] <theadmin> xorwitch: Do not just copy the app... that won't work, unless it's a single binary
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> xorwitch: does it not have 'sudo make install' to install it fully?>
[13:53] <xorwitch> theadmin: yup the whole folder relating to that particular application
[13:53] <theadmin> xorwitch: No, copying the *folder* to /usr/bin is defininetly not a good idea.
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> xorwitch: you can use checkinstall to make a deb of your efforts, it will gel with your OS better
[13:54] <theadmin> It won't do anything, and it's entirely against the FHS as well.
[13:54] <xorwitch> theadmin: it was a orphaned project, so may be the configuration files from the old release were not proper
[14:08] <XATRIX> tried ubuntu-server LTS
[14:09] <XATRIX> Still have issue with restarting machine
[14:09] <XATRIX> No way out :(
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> XATRIX: did you try:  sudo reboot    ?
[14:10] <XATRIX> :) sure
[14:10] <XATRIX> The trouble is that my BIOS, or make kernel doesn't correctly sends RST to CPU
[14:10] <XATRIX> * Will restart now
[14:11] <XATRIX> Black screen, and no go
[14:11] <XATRIX> Until i power down/power up machine
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> XATRIX: tried updating BIOS and / or Kernel?
[14:11] <XATRIX> ActionParsnip: i didn't update the kernel, i've just installed LTS-server
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> XATRIX: is it fully updated?
[14:13] <XATRIX> My proxmox setup (2.6.32) kernel was able to restart my server successfully
[14:15]  * ludkiller test
[14:19] <researcher123> I have installed ubuntu using encryption.Everytime it asks for password.How can I undo that?
[14:22] <wookienz> if i have a file that is owned by foo:foo, as root user i should have access to it correct?
[14:22] <nortonspeal> ping koustava
[14:23] <m1chael> when i plug in an external USB drive to my xubuntu 13.10, the desktop freezes for about 5 minutes... during this time, nothing is clickable on the desktop, but all apps, internet, all work fine... any ideas on this?
[14:24] <Rory> researcher123: You will need to reinstall without encryption, that would be the easiest way.
[14:25] <researcher123> Rory: ok.thanks
[14:35] <nortonspeal> :CLEAR
[14:37] <XATRIX> Hm....init 6 works for me
[14:37] <XATRIX> shutdown -r now, and halt hangs the system after
[14:37] <XATRIX> * Will restrart now
[14:38] <YokoBR> hey guys, my ssh server gives me ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer
[14:38] <YokoBR> debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_6.2p2 Ubuntu-6ubuntu0.1
[14:40] <SunTsu> YokoBR: run ssh with -vvv
[14:40] <YokoBR> SunTsu, i did it
[14:40] <SunTsu> that should show you what's going on and what's going wrong
[14:40] <soyerl> Allo
[14:40] <senecalj> Allo
[14:40] <SunTsu> YokoBR: then better pastebin it and show us what happens
[14:40] <soyerl> Comment ça va?
[14:41] <senecalj> Ca va bien et toi ?
[14:41] <SunTsu> !fr > soyerl
[14:41] <SunTsu> !fr > senecalj
[14:41] <YokoBR> http://pastebin.com/rpbPLQva
[14:42] <soyerl> Fuck you
[14:42] <SunTsu> YokoBR: try increasing the -v until you get something useful, there's no info in there at all
[14:43] <YokoBR> but i did vvv, suntsu
[14:43] <SunTsu> YokoBR: then use -vvvv or -vvvvv or ... you get the hint ;)
[14:43] <YokoBR> ssh root@192.168.0.1 -vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
[14:43] <YokoBR> didn't show anything else
[14:44] <YokoBR> ssh root@192.168.0.1 -vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
[14:44] <YokoBR> didn't show anything else, also.
[14:45] <zykotick9> YokoBR: root?  did you enable root login (horrible idea BTW)?
[14:45] <YokoBR> zykotick9, yep, it's an internal server by now
[14:46] <YokoBR> root is available just for local hosts
[14:46] <glitsj16> YokoBR: fyi the maximum is 3 --> -vvv
[14:46] <SunTsu> YokoBR: Then better debug the server side, run the server in foreground and debug mode
[14:46] <YokoBR> i know, i'm just following SunTsu tip
[14:48] <b0n1> hey there! How can i check the ip of a network device that is linked with my pc with a hub?
[14:48] <b0n1> i dont want to search the whole list of deviced that are in the list of the dhcp server
[14:50] <b0n1> is there a way to communicate with the hub to get a list of connected ips
[14:50] <b0n1> ?
[14:50] <b0n1> i think hubs cant resolve ips right?
[14:51] <SunTsu> b0n1: hubs seldom are managed and hubs normally don't know anything about IP addresses, they only care about MACs.
[14:51] <nortonspeal> list [search key]
[14:51] <b0n1> so is there a way to get the ip address that is assigned by a dhcp server for a device that is connect with my ubuntu via a hub?
[14:52] <b0n1> or do i have to explicitly check the dhcpserver leases?
[14:52] <SunTsu> b0n1: is it in the same subnet or is it routed?
[14:52] <b0n1> same subnet
[14:52] <nortonspeal> window 4
[14:53] <nortonspeal> sync
[14:54] <SunTsu> b0n1: so, you do know the ip, right? Or do you know the MAC only?
[14:55] <b0n1> i know nothing and i want to know the ip
[14:55] <b0n1> i only know that it is linked with the same hub as my pc
[14:55] <b0n1> i am just too lazy to plug in a monitor and do a ifconfig
[14:56] <nightdemon666> b0n1, what are you trying to do?
[14:56] <gordonjcp> b0n1: you could try nmapping the expected range of IP addresses
[14:57] <SunTsu> b0n1: Well, doing it this way prolly is more work than plugging in a display. You'd need to ping every IP, check every MAC if it is from the device's vendor
[14:57] <gimmic> So I had xfce4-panel running on my unity as a taskbar, I updated my proprietary drivers and I can't get xfce4-panel to launch anymore
[14:57] <gimmic> where is the xfce4 config?
[14:57] <gimmic> I reinstalled the panel, but no dice. Figure there might still be a config in my home somewhere
[14:57] <luyen> ai nc voi toi khong
[14:58] <cfhowlett> !vn|luyen,
[15:00] <Boreeas> I accidentally interrupted apt-get during upgrade, and when I tried to restart it I get "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[15:00] <Boreeas> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"
[15:01] <Boreeas> How do I fix that?
[15:01] <Rory> Boreeas: Easiest way is just to reboot
[15:01] <Boreeas> Rory: alright, thanks
[15:01] <SwedeMike> Boreeas: how did you interrupt it? ctrl-z ?
[15:01] <Boreeas> SwedeMike: Yes
[15:01] <Rory> Boreeas: type "fg"
[15:01] <SwedeMike> Boreeas: type "fg"
[15:02] <Boreeas> ah
[15:02] <Boreeas> nifty
[15:02] <Boreeas> thanks
[15:03] <zerocircle> hi!
[15:03] <zerocircle> foxit reader is open source or closed?
[15:03] <Anuska> i runnig ubuntu desktop 64, what browser recomanded me?
[15:04] <gimmic> so for some reason, I can't launch the xfce4-panel without sudo
[15:04] <gimmic> which makes no sense
[15:04] <cfhowlett> Anuska, chromium or firefox
[15:04] <cfhowlett> zerocircle, pretty sure foxit is closed and is property of Chinese gov't ...
[15:05] <zerocircle> cfhowlett, thanks... i was using it for free that's why I was confused
[15:05] <zerocircle> as a open source which one should i prefer?
[15:06] <xperiaS> In bios under fan always on if I choose disabled instead of enabled then its safe or not ? Fan is noisy
[15:06] <lysobit> xchat-indicator opens a new XChat instance everytime I click it. How can I get it restore the existing instance?
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> !info xchat-indicator
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> lysobit: are there any bugs reported?
[15:07] <xperiaS> ??
[15:08] <lysobit> ActionParsnip, I think so https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat/+bug/1185809
[15:08] <XATRIX> I have many messages in dmesg:
[15:08] <lysobit> ActionParsnip, is there anything I can do to work around it?
[15:08] <XATRIX> [   29.843508] ACPI: If an ACPI driver is available for this device, you should use it instead of the native driver
[15:08] <XATRIX> [   29.843511] ACPI Warning: 0x0000000000001c30-0x0000000000001c3f SystemIO conflicts with Region \GPRL 1 (20121018/utaddress-251)
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> lysobit: then its a known issue, keep your eye on the bug and contribute where you can
[15:13] <helmut_> hi
[15:14] <nightdemon666> helmut, hi
[15:15] <asshat> wat
[15:16] <jdvdt> what is a simple way to get outgoing mail using and external SMTP relay server?
[15:17] <ikonia> point a mail app at the external relay ?
[15:17] <jdvdt> I need bugzilla, wordpress, etc... to sendmail
[15:18] <ikonia> so set your own mta and use the smart relay / relay host option of that to point at the external relay
[15:18] <jdvdt> Is there any think special one would need to do i have tried postfix, ssmtp, exim-4.
[15:19] <ikonia> any of those will work fine
[15:19] <jdvdt> Could the issue be the FDQN, or is there any other ports i need than 25 open on the network?
[15:20] <ikonia> what do you mean "the issue" so far you've not offered a problem
[15:20] <StinkyFeet> Check with your ISP some (if not most) of them block port 25.
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> jdvdt: sendmail, exim or similar will do it.
[15:20] <jdvdt> This Linux network is on a VLAN which is partitioned from the rest of the corporate network.
[15:20] <ikonia> jdvdt: can you connect to the mail relay on port 25 ?
[15:21] <jdvdt> I was able to TELnet to is but when STARTTLS it cancels the connection
[15:21] <ikonia> jdvdt: so if you can telnet to it, you know there is a connection,
[15:21] <ikonia> jdvdt: so then you need to resolve the handshake between your mta and the relay
[15:22] <wroos> Ìû
[15:22] <gimmic> So I can launch xfce4-panel in unity, but only if I run it with sudo
[15:23] <gimmic> I can't find where the permissions issue is
[15:23] <gimmic> started happening after proprietary ATI driver install
[15:23] <ikonia> launch it without sudo and see where the eror is
[15:23] <ikonia> error
[15:23] <gimmic> Yeah, it doesn't return an error
[15:23] <gimmic> I guess maybe I have to strace it?
[15:23] <ikonia> gimmic: what does it do ?
[15:23] <ikonia> (if it doesn't return an error)
[15:23] <gimmic> Hangs, doesn't launch. When I kill it I do get: (xfce4-panel:7952): xfce4-panel-CRITICAL **: panel-application.c:1247 (panel_application_save): expression 'XFCONF_IS_CHANNEL (channel)' failed.
[15:24] <gimmic> if I sudo it, it launches fine
[15:24] <ikonia> gimmic: maybe environmental, may not be, strace it
[15:24] <ikonia> google that error too
[15:24] <gimmic> ya, did that.
[15:25] <sn33zy> any devs that can help me write a script that uses gnome screensaver stuff to listen for when the session is unlocked so I an execute custom commands?
[15:25] <sn33zy> i am having trouble finding a decent example...
[15:26] <Joe_knock> Hello
[15:26] <Guest59577> I have a problem, my Ubuntu have not  layout and closed buttons, I should installs the privative drivers of NVIDIA??
[15:27] <Guest59577> please help me
[15:31] <gimmic> is there a command similar to yum's whatprovides?
[15:31] <gimmic> used to do yum whatprovides */ld.so. etc
[15:33] <Joe_knock> gimmic have you tried: apt-get ?
[15:33] <Pici> gimmic: for things you have installed, dpkg -S  or you could use apt-file search, but apt-file needs to be installed first.
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> gimmic: dpkg -S filename
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> sn33zy: http://superuser.com/questions/205334/how-do-you-get-ubuntu-to-automatically-run-a-program-every-time-the-screen-is-un
[15:35] <gimmic> it looks like xfce4 panel is pretty upset about a lot of files. I should probably strace it when it works too and compare
[15:36] <gimmic> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6600308/
[15:36] <Joe_knock> !pastebin
[15:36] <gimmic> .. I did use paste
[15:37] <ikonia> gimmic: /opt !!!
[15:37] <Joe_knock> gimmic was for me, not you :P
[15:37] <ikonia> gimmic: what's going on here
[15:37] <ikonia> gimmic: /opt/AMDAPP - who's built this
[15:37] <gimmic> Yeah, a mess.
[15:37] <gimmic> I think it's from ATI's installer. looking into it
[15:37] <ikonia> gimmic: why is it looking for 64bit AND 32bit libraries
[15:37] <ikonia> gimmic: who built this package ?
[15:38] <gimmic> ATI?
[15:38] <ikonia> ati did not build xfce-pannel
[15:38] <gimmic> oh, xfce4-panel is from ubuntu
[15:38] <gimmic> repos
[15:38] <ikonia> ok, so it's just the linker doing this then
[15:38] <ikonia> gimmic: I'd look at the permissions in /opt/AMDAPP as it doesn't appear to find anything it expects in there
[15:39] <ikonia> gimmic: I'd also question why it's looking for 32bit libraries like cario - although I don't know enough about xfce to know if that's normal
[15:39] <ikonia> gimmic: for example /opt/AMDAPP/lib/x86_64/libpango-1.0.so.0 - pango should NOT be in there , why is it looking there
[15:40] <jhutchins> Yet another example of how multiarch is still a work in progress.
[15:41] <ikonia> I don't know why they bother with it
[15:45] <[[thufir]]> how do I install dogecoin wallet?  I'm not sure what to build.  https://github.com/dogecoin/dogecoin   the readme doesn't explain at all.
[15:45] <donvito> when is the next release of lts ?
[15:46] <gimmic> hmm
[15:46] <gimmic> So even tracking down some of these missing files / permissions I can't seem to get the panel to launch without sudo
[15:47] <andyfied> [[thufir]]: i have linux instctions somewhere, hold up
[15:48] <[[thufir]]> andyfied: ok, thanks, I have the git repo.  I'm guessing it's like make, make configure, that sequence...
[15:48] <[[thufir]]> gimmic: sudo for what? install?
[15:48] <andyfied> [[thufir]]: http://b.agilob.net/such-address-many-dig-on-linux-wow/
[15:48] <andyfied> these instructions took me seconds to follow, then minutes as my old cpu built it :)
[15:50] <hassen> hello's
[15:50] <[[thufir]]> andyfied: lol.  no, thanks.
[15:51] <[[thufir]]> haha, I thought I was in #dogecoin
[15:51] <andyfied> #ubuntu bro :D
[15:52] <BlueProtoman> For some reason, Sublime Text isn't seeing the same PATH variable that bash is, on Ubuntu 13.10.  Any tips?
[15:52] <[[thufir]]> I was trying to figure out why gimmic was using sudo
[15:52] <andyfied> you'll only get buntu build instructions from me
[15:52] <gimmic> [[thufir]]: this is unrelated from your issue
[15:52] <gimmic> By the way, I got it fixed
[15:52] <gimmic> I grabbed xfce-settings from the repos
[15:53] <gimmic> ran it to reset the global defaults
[15:53] <gimmic> now it seems to be launching properly /shrug
[15:53] <n008> is there a way I can modify bash's autocomplete
[15:53] <shreezbot> Anyone got any experience converting their Sickbeard installation from Windows to Linux?
[15:53] <n008> for a command
[15:53] <gimmic> I had cleared what I expected to be related in my home .config/xfce
[15:53] <[[thufir]]> andyfied: what's the second command about zypper?  zypper in boost boost-devel git libdb-4_8 qt4-qmake libssl-devel libqt4-devel   what does that do?
[15:53] <gimmic> n008: that's probably gonna be in your bash profile
[15:53] <andyfied> zypper is for suse
[15:53] <andyfied> instead of apt-get
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> BlueProtoman: how did you install sublime?
[15:54] <[[thufir]]> andyfied: ah, thx.
[15:54] <BlueProtoman> ActionParsnip: Deb package.
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> BlueProtoman: from where?
[15:54] <andyfied> so only do one of those, the rest is fine. that line wasn't very clear though
[15:54] <zerocircle_1> what default pdf reader is used by ubuntu 13.10?
[15:54] <BlueProtoman> ActionParsnip: From the official site.
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> BlueProtoman: then I suggest you contact them to report the issue
[15:54] <Touhou11> zerocircle_1: Evince
[15:55] <zerocircle_1> Thanks Touhou11
[15:55] <n008> gimmic: ok
[15:56] <Bretos> hey guys, do you happen to know if it is possible to extract some usage statistics from my old HP Deskjet 5550 under Ubuntu?
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> Bretos: usage statistics of what?
[15:57] <Bretos> ActionParsnip: of that printer I mentioned, HP Deskjet 5550
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> Bretos: the cups system keeps a log of print jobs etc
[15:57] <dmitry> hey
[15:57] <Bretos> yeah, but this printer is kinda second-handed
[15:57] <Bretos> and I wanted to extract statistics of not only my usage
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> Bretos: what sort of thing were you thinking?
[15:58] <Bretos> ActionParsnip: printed pages, first usage date etc
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> Bretos: i dont think that is stored.
[15:59] <Bretos> color/grayscale print proportions
[15:59] <Bretos> ActionParsnip: it is, on some printers, I cant find anything about this deskjet
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> Bretos: the hp toolbox may tell you
[15:59] <ObrienDave> # of pages, yes. reprinting? no
[15:59] <glambert> hi, if eth1 is dhcp and provides the 172.X address and eth0 is static and provides a public ip address, how can I get the default route to be the public gateway rather than the private gateway provided by dhcp?
[15:59] <dmitry> sorry my oftop but HELP ME!! http://rghost.ru/51072904 WTF?? who netsh failed???
[16:00] <[[thufir]]> having trouble getting doge wallet installed:  http://pastebin.com/HMdQPVQY
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> Bretos: if you install the newest hplip from the hplip site (run the installer as user (without sudo)) you may find it tells you
[16:00] <Bretos> ObrienDave: ok, so I will try with hp toolbox, I just hope I can launch it from linuks
[16:00] <Bretos> ActionParsnip: ok, thanks, going for it right now!
[16:00] <ObrienDave> I use it
[16:01] <ObrienDave> I have hplip installed
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> Bretos: wget http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/hplip/hplip-3.13.11.run; chmod +x ./hplip-3.13.11.run; ./hplip-3.13.11.run
[16:01] <shreezbot> Does Ubuntu come with a sqlite browser?
[16:01] <shreezbot> I can't seem to find one...
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> shreezbot: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/sqlitebrowser/
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> shreezbot: 6 seconds that took....
[16:02] <dmitry>   [01:59] <dmitry> sorry my oftop but HELP ME!! http://rghost.ru/51072904 WTF?? who netsh failed???
[16:02] <jhutchins> Bretos: You're thinking of stories of larger commercial-grade printers that use a hard drive to store images during processing or prior to secure printing.  A DeskJet doesn't have that.
[16:02] <ObrienDave> or that much RAM
[16:02] <Bretos> well I found what I wanted
[16:03] <Bretos> keeping pressed power i pressed resume for 12 times
[16:03] <Bretos> and it printed a test page
[16:03] <jhutchins> ObrienDave: RAM wouldn't be persistent.
[16:03] <Bretos> some hexdump and some data like page count
[16:03] <shreezbot> ActionParsnip:  Yea, I'm usually a lot better about finding shit on my own...  My bad...  :)
[16:04] <dmitry>   [01:59] <dmitry> sorry my oftop but HELP ME!! http://rghost.ru/51072904 WTF?? who netsh failed???
[16:04] <Pici> dmitry: This is #ubuntu, not ##windows
[16:04] <ObrienDave> ok,ok, FLASH memory
[16:04] <dyrnade> düü helllo
[16:04] <dmitry> ##windows??
[16:04] <Pici> dmitry: /join ##windows
[16:05] <dmitry> thx
[16:05] <glambert> hi, if eth1 is dhcp and provides the 172.X address and eth0 is static and provides a public ip address, how can I get the default route to be the public gateway rather than the private gateway provided by dhcp?
[16:06] <dinahlopz> I am installing 13.10 server on a computer that previously had windows 8... and grub fails to install on target.. is there anything I should know?
[16:07] <dinahlopz> I mean, did windows 8 mess something up that I can't install ubuntu without considerable effort?
[16:07] <Touhou11> dinahlopz: What error message does grub display?
[16:08] <dinahlopz> something similar to grub failed to install on /target
[16:09] <phil-ns> dinahlopz: are you attempting to install 64bit or 32bit?
[16:09] <dinahlopz> 32bit
[16:10] <phil-ns> dinahlopz: can you try with a 64bit? looks like its an issue with windoz Secure Boot...the 64bit version of Ubuntu is aware of this bullsh!t
[16:10] <dm4-1041tx> hello guys i am using 12.04.3lts i just cleaned my fan replaced the heat sink and thermal paste now laptop is running cool 55-60degree i5 but fan is very noisy now is there any way to reduce its noise?by decreasing its power supply any ideas?
[16:10] <dinahlopz> phil-ns: But I don't have a 64bit system
[16:11] <dinahlopz> I mean... this computer isn't
[16:11] <jhutchins> phil-ns: Using the cpufreq and power utilities you can throttle the CPU back when it's not needed.  This should allow the BIOS to slow the fan automatically.  A lot depends on how the hardware was intended to work and what it can do.
[16:11] <Jordan_U> dinahlopz: Did the computer come with Windows 8? What CPU does it have? Is it UEFI or BIOS based?
[16:12] <jhutchins> !uefi
[16:12] <dinahlopz> Jordan_U: I am not sure about that.. this isn't my computer..
[16:12] <Pici> 70
[16:12] <ObrienDave> dm4-1041tx, since most fans are permanently lubed, you probably need to get a new fan
[16:12] <dinahlopz> but it looks old.. so I suppose that it didn't...
[16:12] <dinahlopz> It's bios based
[16:13] <[[thufir]]> any dogecoin users?  I tried to compile the qt version, but it failed:  http://pastebin.com/HMdQPVQY
[16:13] <dm4-1041tx> ObrienDave, no other options??
[16:14] <YokoBR> please guys, my ssh server is not accepting connections
[16:14] <ObrienDave> dm4-1041tx, try tightening the fan frame screws. not too tight. the frame is cheap pot metal. breaks easily
[16:14] <dinahlopz> I tried to reinstall and I didn't get any grub errors this time...
[16:14] <glambert> YokoBR, nmap -v -sT yourip/32
[16:14] <dinahlopz> but it still doesn't boot
[16:14] <dinahlopz> i get a blankscreen
[16:15] <dm4-1041tx> ObrienDave, ok
[16:15] <dm4-1041tx> thankyou :)
[16:15] <ObrienDave> yup
[16:16] <Jordan_U> dinahlopz: How did you determine that it doesn't have a 64 bit CPU?
[16:16] <dm4-1041tx> ObrienDave,turbo boost will help in this?
[16:17] <mustmodify> `groups` will give me a list of groups... but is there a way to tell primary from secondary groups?
[16:17] <erchache2000> archive.ubuntu.com is offline? O_o
[16:17] <erchache2000> all my servers cant connect to archive.ubuntu.com. Is it offline? or are my net?
[16:18] <dinahlopz> Jordan_U: I checked the service tag with dell website
[16:18] <ObrienDave> dm4-1041tx, not sure. if screws don't work, make a gasket from paper pad cardboard. don't block the vent very much
[16:18] <dinahlopz> Jordan_U: and it's an old pc
[16:18] <adas> how do I watch movies that are on my server on my tv through LAN?
[16:20] <dm4-1041tx> ObrienDave, ok, and one more thing do you have any idea of pwm cabale sensors?or any of its alternatives?
[16:20] <Touhou11> adas: Depends on your TV, and what devices you have connected to it
[16:21] <dinahlopz> ok... I think the grub problem somehow solved itself when I reinstalled again.
[16:21] <ObrienDave> dm4-1041tx, i know what PWM is, no idea if there are any alternatives
[16:21] <dinahlopz> but now I get a blank screen *after* selecting ubuntu on bootloader.
[16:21] <dm4-1041tx> ObrienDave, how can i find one for dm4-1041tx?
[16:22] <marsam> why Unity/lighdm ignores my xorg.conf?
[16:23] <Touhou11> adas: If your TV supports DLNA or you have a games console attached to it, you can stream that way
[16:23] <adas> ok thanks, i will check my tv
[16:24] <nadiyama> Hello, how can I get libgl1-nvidia-glx?
[16:24] <adas> my tv says it supports windows media player,smartshare plex, etc
[16:24] <adas> Touhou11:
[16:26] <dmitry>   [01:59] <dmitry> sorry my oftop but HELP ME!! http://rghost.ru/51072904 WTF?? who netsh failed??? if you see this error - simple set autoip on tun interface
[16:26] <dmitry> on the lient side
[16:27] <dinahlopz> I get a blank screen after selecting ubuntu on the boot screen..
[16:27] <dinahlopz> nothing happens for a very long time..
[16:29] <dinahlopz> Guys.. I think I am missing something.. Ubuntu 13.10 server should take me to a cli on boot.. right?
[16:29] <dinahlopz> or should I ssh to it from another computer?
[16:29] <Touhou11> adas: If you setup a DLNA server on your computer, your TV should be able to browse media files. I've used PS3MediaServer before (supports more than just PS3s)
[16:30] <Andrei89> http://askubuntu.com/questions/162075/my-computer-boots-to-a-black-screen-what-options-do-i-have-to-fix-it
[16:30] <adas> DLNA server, ok thanks, now i know where to start. Thanks Touhou11
[16:33] <karmine> yo
[16:34] <karmine> anyone able to help me?
[16:34] <karmine> or all 2000 of u idle?
[16:35] <andyfied> don't ask to ask
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> karmine: many are
[16:35] <nolim> good, i have an issue too:
[16:35] <karmine> sorry.....im so old im used to irc idlers
[16:35] <nolim> having some problems with route and dhcp client (3 ip in same subnet, but route only works for one at same time) - anyone got a clue?
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> karmine: itsnot changed much at all
[16:36] <karmine> im not in the correct channel but my distro is close to ubuntu
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> nolim: thats one of the oldest bugs, having multiple interfacs in the same subnet causes issues
[16:36] <karmine> no it hasnt.   i usually hang out o efnet
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> karmine: what distro are you using?
[16:36] <karmine> kali
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> karmine: ask in #kali-linux for support for Kali
[16:36] <nolim> ok, think i've solved it before, but cant find a solution now,,
[16:36] <karmine> and im tryin to install steam
[16:36] <karmine> im banned from akli:)
[16:37] <nolim> ActionParsnip: wanna point me in a direction or doc?
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> karmine: then ask in the ops channel to get the ban lifted
[16:37] <karmine> its been 3 months and ive tried
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> karmine: kali is also not made for general use
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> karmine: your OS isnt supported here
[16:37] <karmine> i figured maybe u ubuntu guys might have a workaround
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> karmine: your OS is not supported here
[16:37] <karmine> its only libc6
[16:37] <adas> http://www.gnu.org/software/gmediaserver/
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> karmine: your OS is not supported here
[16:38] <karmine> THAT is my only problem
[16:38] <ikonia> karmine: you are not banned in #kali-linux
[16:38] <karmine> i can run slack and be supported here friend
[16:38] <ikonia> karmine: I suggest using #kali-linux
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> karmine: no, slack has its own channel too
[16:39] <karmine> i know.......but source is source:)
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> thanks
[16:40] <Wubix> hello everyone. is there something special to consider when chrooting from ubuntu 13.10 into 12.04?
[16:40] <ikonia> Wubix: no
[16:40] <Wubix> i messed up good then
[16:41] <dinahlopz> I did a nomodeset and It seems to be "waiting for network configuration"... (13.10 server)
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> dinahlopz: can you switch to another TTY?
[16:42] <dinahlopz> ActionParsnip: Yes
[16:42] <aginyx5> Hi everybody
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> dinahlopz: you could restart the networking service there
[16:44] <aginyx5> Anyone with some knowledge of conky or can anyone direct me to right channel
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> aginyx5: knowledge in what way?
[16:44] <BullShark> How do you stop network manager in lubuntu 13.10 without it respawning?
[16:44] <DLC> there is a channel called #conky
[16:44] <aginyx5> I am trying to call
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> BullShark: sudo service network-manager stop
[16:45] <DLC> aginyx5: just sayin
[16:45] <aginyx5> a python script in
[16:45] <BullShark> ActionParsnip :: service does not exist in LUbuntu 13.10
[16:45] <aginyx5> conky
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> BullShark:  after the word service, hit TAB a few times, lists the services
[16:45] <BullShark> ActionParsnip :: looking at the PPID, NetworkManager was started by init, PPID 0
[16:45] <aginyx5> and I am getting bad substitution error
[16:46] <aginyx5> but it runs fine in terminal
[16:46] <BullShark> ActionParsnip :: right, the only service that comes close is "networking" and that's not the right one
[16:46] <Abhijit> hi. is it common for ecrypfs to have 5 GB of data uses and disk uses software list the same key being stored multiple time?
[16:46] <Artemis3> BullShark, try this in a terminal: sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager stop
[16:46] <Abhijit> for encrypted home folder ubuntu.
[16:48] <aginyx5> hi Actionparsnip, hope you have got my entire msz
[16:49] <BullShark> Artemis3 :: i'll screenshot a VM to show you that does not exist in LUbuntu 13.10
[16:52] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[16:52] <Artemis3> BullShark, just paste the output of ls /etc/init.d into pastebin or such, maybe you don't have the network manager applet installed?
[16:52] <gartral> does anyone else have issues with pavucontrol killing their networking?
[16:53] <BullShark> gardar :: is that when you adjust a volume slider?
[16:53] <[[thufir]]> I'm trying to install dogecoin wallet from source, but it seems tore require a whole sleew of downloads, and then compile those...and then... http://askubuntu.com/questions/393101/
[16:56] <andyfied> [[thufir]]: you had trouble with the instructions i provided?
[16:56] <andyfied> cos one of them is for removing a dependency i think
[16:57] <glambert> trying to mount a dd file and getting
[16:58] <glambert> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,
[17:00] <llutz> glambert: dd-image of a disk or a partition? if disk, you need to set the offset
[17:02] <glambert> llutz, mount -t ext2 -o loop,ro,offset=1048576 server.dd /mnt/img
[17:02] <glambert> offset is from parted
[17:02] <gartral> BullShark: gardar doesn't like being confused for m, and no, having it open at all
[17:02] <glambert> now mounts ok
[17:02] <glambert> but I only get grub folder and kernel files?
[17:03] <llutz> glambert: so it seem to be the /boot-partition you've moutned
[17:03] <llutz> mounted
[17:03] <BullShark> glambert :: that's odd. does it happen with ubuntu only?
[17:04] <glambert> it's an ubuntu (i think 12.04 but possibly 13.04) VM that I've converted from qcow2 to dd
[17:04] <glambert> parted > print gives primary, extended and logical
[17:05] <BullShark> glambert :: i meant can you reproduce that bug in other distros using your same wireless hardware with pulseaudio?
[17:05] <glambert> BullShark, huh?
[17:05] <jubale> I need a good tutorial on adding a screen resolution, if it's not automatically detected.
[17:06] <mike-irssi> glambert: first time that happened?
[17:06] <BullShark> jubale :: xrandr -s 0
[17:06] <jubale> ??
[17:07] <glambert> mike-irssi, first time attempted. what i basically want to do is clone a VM and edit the interfaces file to avoid ip conflicts before I boot it
[17:07] <aginyx5> hello can anyone help me with conky
[17:07] <BullShark> jubale :: does your system come equipped with bash or any shell at all? maybe you could type an actual question instead of just a question mark!
[17:08] <[[thufir]]> andyfied: yeah, it doesn't compile for me.
[17:08] <mike-irssi> glambert: wicked. so then you will have two ips?
[17:08] <jubale> I'm using Ubuntu 13.04, ofcourse it has bash.
[17:08] <ClientAlive> I've installed redmine on ubuntu 13.10 via software center. There was a problem when the window popped up to configure the database/redmine ( mysql-redmine was not installed ). I closed that window and installed mysql-redmine from the command line and now I am unable to get that gui to launch again. Can anyone instruct me how to get that configuration gui to launch?
[17:08] <BullShark> jubale :: again, a question mark without a question is useless
[17:08] <glambert> mike-irssi, well, yes. I can't have the same IP on two machines.
[17:09] <jubale> I asked for a good tutorial, not a short command-line that I don't understand.
[17:09] <gartral> looots of netsplits today
[17:09] <BullShark> jubale :: man xrandr, have fun with your tutorial
[17:10] <Poenikatu> Hullo. I have installed Xubuntu 13.10 on an amd64 and when I try to log in, I am returned to the log in window. What do I do now?
[17:11] <BullShark> Poenikatu :: check for error messages
[17:11]  * andyfied thinks
[17:11] <jubale> I would, but I really prefer HTML,CHM, and/or PDF tutorials.
[17:11] <Poenikatu> help
[17:11] <BullShark> jubale :: ok, have you considered a macintosh?
[17:12] <mike-irssi> jubale: http://pastebin.com/9zmyFPWK this is a variable i use to change resolution, added to the end of bash.bashrc in /etc
[17:13] <Iriez> Can someone help me fix my crypttab / fstab so my encrypted lvm boots? Im not getting a password prompt and it stalls at initramfs
[17:13] <Poenikatu> BullShark: Where?
[17:14] <ClientAlive> If there is anyone, I'll be leaving for work in rought 1.5 hrs and will see any response when I return 10hrs later. I have googled my eyes out over this issue and have nowhere else to turn now but this channel. Thanks in advance...  :)
[17:14] <jubale> How did you come up with those scale numbers?
[17:14] <andyfied> [[thufir]]: which boost did you use?
[17:15] <BullShark> Poenikatu :: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1999552
[17:15] <jhutchins> ClientAlive: Have you tried launching the client in a terminal window so you can see what happens?
[17:16] <BullShark> Iriez :: regenerate your initramfs
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> ClientAlive: try running it from terminal, the output may be useful
[17:16] <mike-irssi> jubale: from here http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=20634
[17:16] <Iriez> Bullshark: update-initramfs -u ?
[17:17] <jhutchins> ClientAlive: It's a pretty big self-contained project, a general #ubuntu group isn't going to have much specific knowledge.  Your best bet is http://www.redmine.org/projects/redmine/boards/2
[17:17] <Iriez> The problem is im booting from usb and everytime i mess with anything it screws everything up thinking my usb partition is hte main partition
[17:17] <BullShark> i used genkernel in the past to do it, would have to research for ubuntu, sec
[17:17] <ClientAlive> jhutchins: ActionParsnip: What is the command to run? That's what I don't know
[17:17] <andyfied> [[thufir]]: ah i see, latest
[17:18] <[[thufir]]> andyfied: I think so.  I'm on 12.04 lts
[17:18] <BullShark> Iriez :: do older ubuntu kernels boot ok?
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> ClientAlive: if you open the launcher in /usr/share/applications you will see    Exec=   that is the command
[17:18] <Iriez> Bullshark: Im not sure? This is a fresh install.
[17:18] <BullShark> ok
[17:19] <Iriez> update-grub throws errors about crypttab
[17:19] <Iriez> saying 'invalid line'
[17:19] <Iriez> sda2_crypt UUID=UUIDHERE none luks
[17:19] <Iriez> is my crypttab
[17:20] <BullShark> Iriez :: search your exact error in google. it sounds silly, but that works most of the time.
[17:20] <andyfied> [[thufir]]: libboost-all-dev is latest. hmm, it might be looking in the wrong location for it though
[17:20] <Iriez> Bullshark: I've been dealing with this for 4 days now
[17:20] <Iriez> google has not resolved anything for me
[17:20] <Iriez> I've searched and researched a million times.
[17:20] <BullShark> Iriez :: ok what is the exact error message?
[17:20] <[[thufir]]> andyfied: let me double check that
[17:20] <Iriez> heh.
[17:20] <ClientAlive> ActionParsnip: It does not appear to be named "launcher" do you know the specific file/name to open?
[17:20] <Iriez> Where?
[17:21] <ClientAlive> stupid question I know but I have virtually no exper with this thing
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[17:21] <Iriez> yea, just 'invalid line' is the error
[17:21] <jubale> Apparently, my current resolution is 1366x768. That seems odd, I've never heard of that one.
[17:22] <Iriez> there's a million threads stating that it throws that error often.
[17:22] <Iriez> so im not sure if thats even the issue
[17:22] <BullShark> Iriez :: and which line is it referring to that is invalid?
[17:22] <[[thufir]]> andyfied: yes, it's latest version
[17:22] <adas> is kvm like esxi?
[17:22] <jubale> Wait. I'm not actually used to widescreen resolutions, that is why.
[17:23] <BullShark> Iriez :: and you said it's a fresh install. have you tried reinstalling?
[17:24] <Iriez> 3 times :)
[17:24] <Iriez> there's only 1 line in crypttab
[17:24] <Iriez> so there's only 1 line it could be referring to as 'invalid'
[17:24] <BullShark> Iriez :: you are wanting LUKS encryption. I suggest Fedora.
[17:24] <andyfied> [[thufir]]: so i'm not an expert at this, but /usr/local/include is always included, only it might not actually be in there
[17:24] <Iriez> Sorry, no thanks.
[17:24] <Iriez> It worked before, it will work again
[17:25] <Iriez> I will eventually find someone who can help me resolve it.
[17:25] <gordonjcp> they should just take the encryption option off the installer
[17:25] <BullShark> is arch linux the only other distro ubuntu people are willing to use?
[17:25] <jubale> XRandR shows that I'm using 1366x768, with maximum resolution of 32767x32767.
[17:25] <iSaleK> Can someone please help me with btnx-config, it doesn't recognize my Logitech M510 Scroll button right click (scroll button has left and right click button)
[17:25] <stanley_robertso> hi all.. need a quick help on unix on ubuntu.. anyone there ?
[17:25] <gordonjcp> !ask | stanley_robertso
[17:25] <BullShark> Iriez :: try the alternate installer instead of the gui one
[17:25] <andyfied> [[thufir]]: i think it is in /home/ubuntu/boost/ but there may be an older version in includes
[17:26] <iSaleK> I would like to make left -> copy and right -> paste, I was looking trough tutorials and some solutions but I was unable to accomplish anything so far :\
[17:26] <Iriez> I used the altenate installer, its the *only* way to do a encrypted lvm
[17:26] <[[thufir]]> hmm. boost is python?
[17:26] <Iriez> I appreciate the advice, i will continue researching
[17:26] <Iriez> thanks
[17:26] <BullShark> Iriez :: have you identified which line is the "invalid line"
[17:26] <[[thufir]]> andyfied: I don't have /home/ubuntu/
[17:27] <andyfied> [[thufir]]: maybe /home/[[thurfir]]
[17:27] <BullShark> Iriez :: compare it to a valid line
[17:27] <andyfied> or whatever your username is
[17:27] <stanley_robertso> thanks gordonjcp ubottu  ...
[17:28] <Iriez> I can run cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda2 pvcrypt, then Ctrl-D to exit the initramfs shell, and everything boots as it should.
[17:28] <BullShark> Iriez :: and no, don't update initramfs, regenerate a complete new one
[17:28] <Iriez> from initramfs shell
[17:28] <andyfied> [[thufir]]: i also have no idea if it is python
[17:28] <stanley_robertso> Iam not able to write any files in the /tmp directory.. even though i have space it.. how to check or troubleshoot it ..
[17:28] <gordonjcp> stanley_robertso: also, does your nick refer to the folk singer? ;-)
[17:28] <stanley_robertso> gordonjcp :   nope :)
[17:29] <andyfied> [[thufir]]: maybe throw -l/home/USER/boost into the invoke
[17:29] <[[thufir]]> andyfield nope.  let me try to get a manpage or something, but what are we looking for?
[17:30] <andyfied> [[thufir]]: well this is what i found so far http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8881804/boost-c-and-fatal-error-boost-random-uniform-int-distribution-hpp-no-such-f
[17:30] <andyfied> [[thufir]]: they seem to think it is finding an older version of boost
[17:31] <iSaleK> Can someone please help me with btnx-config, it doesn't recognize my Logitech M510 Scroll button right click (scroll button has left and right click button). I would like to make left -> copy and right -> paste, I was looking trough tutorials and some solutions but I was unable to accomplish anything so far :\
[17:32] <andyfied> [[thufir]]: oh, maybe you need to change the location in the makefile
[17:32] <kongthap> i just installed Ubuntu 12.04 on my old desktop (Celeron 2.0, RAM 1GB) i've seen the CPU usag is about 90% up at all time, so I almost cannot do anything, the PC's spec is too low or it's about something else, please help??
[17:32] <[[thufir]]> andyfied: /usr/include/boost
[17:32] <BullShark> Artemis3 :: http://vpaste.net/jlsVr
[17:33] <andyfied> [[thufir]]: i also found this http://doges.org/index.php?topic=575.0 again talking about getting the right version
[17:34] <BullShark> Artemis3 :: that l was supposed to be an I. http://vpaste.net/jIsVr
[17:34] <[[thufir]]> andyfied: ok.  I'm looking at the source for the build file.  durn satoshi nakamoto
[17:36] <BullShark> Artemis3 :: the network manager service is not there. i've already checked for it. any other suggestions?
[17:37] <Artemis3> BullShark, do you have the network-manager-gnome package installed? (see with dpkg -l | grep network-manager
[17:38] <[[thufir]]> andyfied: ok, let's call it for today -- tired.  thx.
[17:38] <[[thufir]]> andyfied: if you later have ideas, askubuntu :)
[17:39] <BullShark> Artemis3 :: affirmative
[17:39] <andyfied> [[thufir]]: i'm pretty much out of ideas, but i'll let you know :)
[17:40] <jhutchins> kongthap: Is it doing a lot of disk swapping?  Does it run ok in rescue mode?
[17:40] <jhutchins> kongthap: top & ps ax will show you what's running.
[17:40] <superpython> hi
[17:41] <superpython> how to change ip wifi 10.42.0.1 in Ubuntu?
[17:41] <ClientAlive> Is debconf being used by default in ubuntu 13.10 AND is debconf actually a debian package ( ie: maintained by debian upstream ) ?
[17:41] <thurstylark> when I do 'startx' and it fails, where can I go to find the log?
[17:42] <Artemis3> BullShark, i see the problem, newer versions don't include it... hmm the new method was service network-manager stop ?
[17:43] <Artemis3> thurstylark, maybe /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[17:43] <MonkeyDust> superpython  i guess it's    ifconfig address      check the man page
[17:44] <superpython> I want to share internet via wifi
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> !isc
[17:45] <BullShark> Artemis3 :: it is included. http://vpaste.net/PJ5TF
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> !ics
[17:45] <superpython> my android is not acces my ubuntu internet
[17:48] <tony_> hello
[17:48] <thurstylark> so, apparently, my xserver had some sort of error with my nvidia card. This is strange, because i have been using this machine reliably for quite a while with no problem. can anyone help me troubleshoot this further?
[17:49] <tony_> am new to ubuntu help me out
[17:49] <tony_> how irc is useful
[17:49] <andyfied> irc is useful for chatting to people :)
[17:50] <andyfied> people like us
[17:50] <sparklinc> how to chat using terminal
[17:50] <tony_> thanks
[17:51] <tony_> simple development of os how is possible
[17:51] <andyfied> sparklinc: irssi for your terminal
[17:51] <Artemis3> sparklinc, use an irc client for console
[17:51] <Poenikatu> I have installed Xubuntu 13.10 and whenever I try to log in, I am returned back to the login page. The contents of my ~/.xsession-errors file are in http://paste.ubuntu.com/6600904/plain/
[17:51] <ses1984> i had to replace the video card in my system, now i see nothing but a black screen and cursor after i log in
[17:52] <andyfied> sparklinc: you may also find screen useful
[17:52] <tony_> any network security projects in ubuntu development
[17:52] <ObrienDave> !nomodeset|ses1984
[17:53] <ses1984> i dont think nomodeset is my problem, i can see a cursor just fine.
[17:53] <Iriez> pvcrypt      /dev/disk/by-uuid/09330b5a-5659-4efd-8e9d-0abc404c5162    none         luks
[17:54] <ses1984> if i go to another tty and run nautilus or unity then things start to show up in ctrl-alt-f7
[17:54] <iSaleK> Ubuntu doesn't recognize all of my Logitech MX510 buttons. How can I solve this?
[17:54] <Iriez> should the /dev/disk be replaced by my real /dev/sda2_crypt ?
[17:54] <Iriez> (in that example)
[17:54] <Iriez> (this is in crypttab)
[17:55] <Artemis3> ses1984, i noticed in some older p4 machines 12.04 works but 13.10 doesn't, maybe its this nomodeset thing but i didn't bother, one it would show corrupt screen, other would show cursor, then blank, then cursor, then blank endlessly; but 12.04 worked perfectly.
[17:55] <Iriez> or should it be exactly like that example - "dev/disk/by-uuid/myuuid here
[17:57] <zocky> can I somehow reload graphics drivers without logging out?
[17:57] <sparklinc> andyfied: i need to use one chat  under  proxy network :) does issri will help me?
[17:57] <zocky> (i'm on 12.10, I should say)
[17:57] <om> Привет))
[17:57] <aberrant> hi all
[17:57] <andyfied> sparklinc: dunno, try it
[17:57] <om> hi)
[17:58] <aberrant> is there a one-liner that will give me ip address, netmask (not CIDR-slash notation), and default gw?
[17:58] <Poenikatu>  I still cannot login.
[17:58] <aberrant> without nmcli, that is
[17:58] <Poenikatu> I am halfway convinced that Xubuntu is a waste of time
[17:58] <andyfied> sparklinc: irssi is just a client though, it won't *help* you do anything in particular, but I'm sure you can get it working
[17:58] <thurstylark> can anyone help me troubleshoot my nvidia driver problem? On boot, it will not start an x session, and dumps me into tty1.
[17:59] <sparklinc> andyfied :thanks..
[18:00] <kongthap> jhutchins, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/61719196/56-12/008.png and https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/61719196/56-12/009.png please don't care about dropbox my computer has been busy all the time since no dropbox
[18:00] <andyfied> sparklinc: here ya go http://www.irssi.org/documentation/proxy looks fairly straight forward :)
[18:00] <Poenikatu> In fact, I shall abandon it in favour of a bog-standard Debian installation. Bye byte all
[18:01] <kongthap> jhutchins, and right now i'm on xp so i cannot run the script you suggested right now, the pictures were captured days ago
[18:04] <somelrlrl> hey lpz tell me how to create a local repository
[18:04] <thurstylark> I can't get lightdm to start because my x server keeps crashing. Can anyone help?
[18:04] <mdelcx> does anyone know of a replacement for postfix that can be used for testing? (write all mail to disk, never send anything)
[18:05] <Kerin> So I've got a directory which du/nautilus/etc swears is 1.6gb, but the size of the subdirectories and files is less than 100mb
[18:05] <Kerin> This is a cloned git repository so I assume that it can't be filesystem corruption
[18:06] <airking> Hey!  I'm using Ubuntu 13.10, and I can't see my mouse cursor!
[18:06] <Kerin> Anyone got any ideas?
[18:07] <shreezbot> What is the best VNC viewer that runs in Windows?
[18:08] <mdelcx> Kerin, it's the git index
[18:08] <mdelcx> Kerin, du -h ./.git
[18:08] <Kerin> jeepers.
[18:08] <anonymous> lol
[18:08] <Kerin> yeah you're right
[18:08] <Kerin> thanks. :)
[18:08] <mdelcx> ;)
[18:08] <airking> http://imgur.com/TWtJfY0   Here is a picture of my desktop, my windows look odd, and I can't see my mouse
[18:10] <hitsujiTMO> airking: did you change the theme by anychance?
[18:11] <airking> hitsujiTMO: No, but I was planning on installing gnome, so I added the gnome 3 repos and did apt-get update, and dist-upgrade.  Maybe that messed it up?
[18:11] <airking> ppa
[18:12] <airking> whoops
[18:12] <tread> Hi. I run Ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop.  This morning I had to do a hard-shutdown after it was low on memory and stopped responding. Since then, I can't boot it up. Instead of a login screen, I get a black screen with a flashing white text cursor in the top left, which just keeps flashing forever. Any help would be *GREATLY* appreciated. Any ideas?
[18:13] <hitsujiTMO> airking: yup that sounds like the problem. unity uses gnome. so you've prob now had a number of gnome packages upgraded so its prob in an unstable situation. Gnome 3 is in the standard repo if you want to use that
[18:13] <zocky> tread, that potentially sounds like a  dead disk. can you get into bios and check if it recognizes the disk?
[18:14] <hitsujiTMO> !ppa-purge: airking if you want to fix it you should try ppa-purge to purge that gnome ppa
[18:14] <hitsujiTMO> !ppa-purge | airking if you want to fix it you should try ppa-purge to purge that gnome ppa
[18:14] <airking> hitsujiTMO: How do I see what PPA's I have?
[18:14] <airking> I kind of can't open a webpage lol
[18:15] <dragonslay> Some grub boot loader issue. airking
[18:15] <airking> dragonslay: What?
[18:15] <zocky> that was probably for tread, i'd say
[18:15] <tread> zocky, It's not a dead disk. I  should mention that see the Ubuntu logo/splash page at first (with the 4 dots that change color  as it's loading), but then instead of a login screen I get the black screen with flashing cursor.
[18:15] <hitsujiTMO> airking: open a terminal, and have a look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ the references to the ppas will be there
[18:15] <tread> zocky, that I* see
[18:17] <hitsujiTMO> tread: can you hit ctrl + alt + f1 to get a virtual terminal?
[18:17] <frogythegreat> Hi all, got an odd 'bug' on the login screen I'm sure sure how to report in 14.04. Keyboard doesn't work until I click the applet in the task bar at top. How can I report this?
[18:18] <tread> hitsujiTMO, I tried that already, and no, no resonse. However, it's not frozen because if I press the Power button on my laptop I see the normal shutdown jargon (services stopping, etc.)
[18:18] <hitsujiTMO> frogythegreat: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs also #ubuntu+1 for 14.04
[18:19] <frogythegreat> thx. yeah, my problem was I couldn't get apport to find anything useful. I'll go ask in +1
[18:19] <hitsujiTMO> !text | tread  can you try this
[18:19] <beniamino> i just deleted initrd.img-3.2.0-57-generic abi-3.2.0-57-generic config-3.2.0-57-generic vmlinuz-3.2.0-57-generic System.map-3.2.0-57-generic from /boot/. :-( how can i recreate these files?
[18:20] <dkessel> frogythegreat, if you find the matching bug number, please let me know. i have that issue too on trusty :)
[18:21] <airking> hitsujiTMO: I see the gnome3 files in sources.list.d, there is a gnome3-team-gnome3-next-saucy.list and one with a .save ending, and then a gnome3-team-gnome3-staging-saucy.list  What do I do with these and pp-purge?
[18:21] <airking> ppa-purge*
[18:22] <hitsujiTMO> airking: can you get me the url in the gnome3-team-gnome3-staging-sdaucy.list please, and i'll get you the exact commands
[18:22] <tread> hitsujiTMO, Sure, let me try that. What  should I be looking for?
[18:22] <hitsujiTMO> tread: from text mode, you can install pastebinit and with that can you run: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log && dmesg | pastebinit
[18:23] <Kajunfiend> Can someone help me please
[18:23] <hitsujiTMO> tread: then dump the 2 urls it generates here please
[18:23] <Kajunfiend> I'm getting http://i.imgur.com/VtmSSy4.jpg when i try to boot with a burned cd
[18:23] <airking> hitsujiTMO: There are two, one is commented out, I'm assuming you want the uncommented one.  It is "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/gnome3-team/gnome3-staging/ubuntu saucy main"
[18:24] <airking> Also, I'm using Unity still, but I want to switch to gnome3
[18:25] <hitsujiTMO> airking: try: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nilarimogard/webupd8 && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ppa-purge && sudo ppa-purge ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3-staging
[18:27] <thurstylark> is there a way to blacklist a package so that apt will refuse to install it?
[18:28] <hitsujiTMO> airking: afaik ubuntu-gnome-desktop is the meta package to install to get the gnome packages
[18:28] <genii> !pinning | thurstylark
[18:28] <thurstylark> thx genii
[18:28] <genii> thurstylark: You're welcome
[18:28] <hitsujiTMO> thurstylark: what package in particular?
[18:28] <llutz> thurstylark: "echo foo hold | sudo dpkg --set-selections"      foo = packagename
[18:29] <airking> hitsujiTMO: Running now
[18:29] <thurstylark> nvidia-common-updates and nvidia-304-updates
[18:29] <tread> hitsujiTMO, I can access the grub menu (I do every time because I have multiple OS's installed), but when I  prerss 'e' to edit the grub command, it's a not a single line but looks like  a 15-20 line script.
[18:29]  * genii makes a note in his little black book and slides llutz a fresh beverage
[18:29] <tread> (forgive typos, the old laptop I'm using to chat with you has lots of sticks keyboard keys)
[18:29] <tread> sticky*
[18:30] <llutz> genii: cheers :)
[18:30] <hitsujiTMO> tread: the line you are looking for its the linux directive. starts with linux and towards the end you should see "quiet splash", just tack on "text" after those two, so its "quiet splach text"
[18:30] <tread> thanks
[18:32] <hitsujiTMO> thurstylark: be aware that if you pin this packages, it will then try to install any other alternatives it can. some packages may list options shuch as: nvidia-304-updates | nvidia-319 | etc ....
[18:33] <tread> hitsujiTMO, Okay, booted in text mode and logged in. What  now?
[18:33] <hitsujiTMO> tread: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[18:33] <hitsujiTMO> tread: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log && dmesg | pastebinit
[18:33] <thurstylark> hitsujiTMO: can you explain that a little further?
[18:33] <airking> hitsujiTMO: So I should just reboot after this?
[18:34] <thurstylark> just want to be sure i understant
[18:34] <thurstylark> *understand
[18:34] <Iriez> http://www.weather.com/video/news-41/top-stories---today-780/yikes-earths-ugliest-cannibal-42315
[18:34] <Iriez> ^^^ HUGE HORSE COCK
[18:34] <FloodBot1> Iriez: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:35] <airking> lol
[18:40] <aberrant> hi all
[18:40] <tread> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6601124/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/6601125/
[18:40] <aberrant> can someone suggest a cleaner way of doing this: http://dpaste.com/1513181/ ?
[18:41] <airking> hitsujiTMO: This is almost done running, I'm rebooting after this right?
[18:47] <Novus2> baahahahah
[18:47] <Novus2> I think I solved my driver issue with ubuntu
[18:48] <hitsujiTMO> airking: theres an issue with the nividia kernel module so try removing the nvidia stack and reinstalling it
[18:48] <airking> hitsujiTMO: I'm got six or 7 messages about how my installation may be broken while it was unpacking, is that a problem?
[18:48] <airking> It was all from the same set of packages
[18:48] <Novus2> http://i1121.photobucket.com/albums/l504/zerocool9455/wintows_zpsdb2a1c8e.png
[18:48] <Novus2> hahaha
[18:48] <hitsujiTMO> airking: can you run: sudo apt-get upgrade | pastebinit
[18:49] <Novus2> :D
[18:49] <airking> hitsujiTMO: I don't have pastebinit, is it just called "pastebinit"?
[18:49] <ariel_17> Novus2: share the wallpaper! very cute
[18:50] <airking> hitsujiTMO: Got it, running now
[18:50] <hitsujiTMO> airking cool
[18:50] <hitsujiTMO> tread: theres an issue with the nividia kernel module so try removing the nvidia stack and reinstalling it
[18:51] <Novus2> http://www.wallof.com/8473-ubuntu-3d-abstract-wallpaper-1920x1200.html
[18:51] <Novus2> though I got to be honest,.. look closely at the image
[18:51] <hitsujiTMO> !ot | Novus2
[18:51] <Novus2> something isn't as it appears to be
[18:52] <tread> hitsujiTMO, I'm not sure how to find out from the cmd line which packages to remove (purge?) and re-install. How sure are you that's my issue?
[18:52] <lickalott> airking - sudo apt-get install pastebinit.  to use just cat <filename> | pastebinit
[18:53] <Novus2> Sure,.. going to off-topic
[18:54] <hitsujiTMO> tread: thats the error in your xserver thats preventing it from loading so yup thats your issue. can you run: dpkg --get-selections | grep nvidia | pastebinit
[18:55] <airking> How long should apt-get upgrade take?  It's been a few minutes...
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> airking  may depend on how long agfo was the last time
[18:57] <MonkeyDust> ago*
[18:57] <airking> uhhhh
[18:58] <airking> This might take a while...
[18:58] <tread> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6601192/
[18:58] <MonkeyDust> airking  yes, try a second time after it's finished
[18:59] <hitsujiTMO> tread: try: sudo apt-get purge nvidia-304 nvidia-304-updates && sudo apt-get autoremove --purge && sudo apt-get install nvidia-304-updates
[19:05] <airking> Apt-get upgrade is still running, any way I can see it's progress?
[19:06] <airking> I ran sudo apt-get upgrade | pastebinit
[19:06] <airking> It's been like 30 minutes
[19:07] <hitsujiTMO> hit y a few times
[19:07] <ajf> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu 13.10 with an ATI HD5450 (fglrx), really weird ~1s graphics lag
[19:07] <ajf> Not input lag, graphics lag
[19:07] <ajf> In OpenGL games specifically
[19:07] <airking> hitsujiTMO: It just types a few y's into the terminal
[19:07] <m000gle> I'm travelling, at the moment, and have just changed times zones from EST to CST.  After updating my location in Date & Time settings, though, the time displayed has not changed.  The time is already set "automatically from the internet", so I figured changing the location would update it.  Even after manually updating the network time using the terminal (“sudo ntpdate -s time.nist.gov”), the clock has still not changed.
[19:07] <m000gle> Granted, I could just manually change the clock.  However, is there any way for the time to automatically update to the local time zone when a new location is set?
[19:08] <ajf> I hear the reaction to keyboard events immediately, but it takes time to visually react
[19:08] <ajf> as if I'm watching a livestream or something
[19:08] <ajf> any ideas>
[19:08] <hitsujiTMO> airking: it could be waiting for use input. cancal it with ctrl + c
[19:08] <airking> It was
[19:08] <airking> I wanted me to Y/N
[19:09] <hitsujiTMO> airking: can you run apt-get upgrade and once thats complete and updated, then rerun sudo apt-get upgrade | pastebinit
[19:10] <ajf> does anyone have ANY idea? :(
[19:10] <Christoph_vW> the drupal7 package should be updated in 12.04 LTS (debian 7 has a newer one with lots of security fixes)
[19:10] <hitsujiTMO> Christoph_vW: lts will have any security fixes backported but wil not recieve version upgrades.
[19:11] <ColdKey> Ubuntu doesn't recognize all of my mouse buttons. How can I fix this?
[19:11] <tread> hitsujiTMO, So just to be clear, you had me purge nvidia304 but not reinstall it? Your install command was only for nvidia-304-updates. Is that correct?
[19:11] <fatjon> hi
[19:12] <fatjon> what is usnet and dipinternet
[19:12] <fatjon> ?
[19:13] <shreezbot> Is it usually save to use "apt-get --purge autoremove" for packages that I accidentally installed, or could it remove dependencies for other applications?
[19:13] <Christoph_vW> hitsujiTMO: I am only interested in security fixes - but the ubuntu package seems to lack all security fixed of the last year (for the drupal7 package)
[19:13] <Christoph_vW> fixes*
[19:13] <hitsujiTMO> tread: afaik nvidia-304 and nvidia-304-updates are 2 versions of the same driver.
[19:13] <carlaaaa> can i scan my windows 8 usb installation  drive from ubuntu?
[19:13] <fatjon> what is usnet and dipinternet?
[19:14] <ColdKey> Can anyone please help me?
[19:14] <ColdKey> Ubuntu doesn't recognize all of my mouse buttons. How can I fix this?
[19:14] <trism> shreezbot: autoremove will only packages that are marked automatic but are not needed anymore, so that should be fine
[19:14] <Pici> fatjon: Those don't sound like questions about Ubuntu.
[19:14] <Christoph_vW> http://ftp-master.metadata.debian.org/changelogs//main/d/drupal7/drupal7_7.14-2+deb7u1_changelog        http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/d/drupal7/drupal7_7.12-1/changelog
[19:15] <dkessel> ColdKey, what kind of mouse do you have?
[19:15] <shreezbot> trism:  Sweet!  Thanks for the info!  :)
[19:15] <hitsujiTMO> Christoph_vW: they're most likely security fixes for features not present in the version in 12.04, hence why they're not backported.
[19:15] <shreezbot> trism:  I was just being a bit paraoid  :)
[19:15] <airking> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6601283/
[19:15] <airking> airking@airking-Ubuntu:~$
[19:15] <Christoph_vW> hitsujiTMO: no, they are present in 12.04 lts
[19:15] <hitsujiTMO> Christoph_vW: you can also just pull a copy of drupal directly from drupal.org and follow the installtion ninstructions on the site
[19:16] <Christoph_vW> hitsujiTMO: the package should be updated (security fixes) or removed...
[19:16] <airking> hitsujiTMO: Everything finished, should I try rebooting?
[19:16] <fatjon> what is di[ internet????
[19:16] <hitsujiTMO> airking: i see no errors in that so most likely the system has been returned to a stable state
[19:16] <airking> SO reboot?
[19:16] <hitsujiTMO> airking: yup
[19:16] <g0bl1n> Beldar, from today morning, BIOS updated fine ;)
[19:17] <airking> will do!
[19:17] <tread> hitsujiTMO, Ah, that sounds right. I  remember switching between them, but I forget which I settled on.
[19:17] <Beldar> g0bl1n, Cool, good job figuring it out.
[19:17] <g0bl1n> :)
[19:17] <ajf> ~1s to ~1.5s graphics lag in OpenGL games, does Compiz have anything to do with it? HD5450 ATI card w/ fglrx graphics, Ubuntu 13.10, Compiz OpenGL VBlank disabled, as is VSync in games
[19:18] <[Gentoo]> ajf: disable it and see
[19:18] <ajf> [Gentoo]: Disabled compiz?
[19:18] <ajf> uh I guess that works
[19:18] <fatjon> what is dipinternet????
[19:18] <[Gentoo]> i know compiz wont have any positive affects on games
[19:19] <carlaaaa> can i scan my windows 8 usb installation  drive from ubuntu?
[19:19] <[Gentoo]> effects*
[19:19] <nashant> Hey guys. Is it possible to disable the password on lockscreen?
[19:19] <[Gentoo]> carlaaaa: for viruses?
[19:19] <llutz> fatjon: do you have any ubuntu-related question?
[19:19] <[Gentoo]> yes
[19:19] <carlaaaa> yes for viruses
[19:19] <ajf> swapped back to xfwm4
[19:19] <ajf> imma go test again
[19:19] <airking> hitsujiTMO: Working!
[19:19] <[Gentoo]> carlaaaa: yes,
[19:19] <hitsujiTMO> Christoph_vW: note that you linked change logs for 2 different versions. the debian version is 2 point releases higher than ubuntu lts. therefore those issues prob effect 7.13 or 7.14 but not 7.12
[19:20] <carlaaaa> how? and if theres a virus how do i remove it?
[19:20] <Beldar> carlaaaa, This a download of W8 other than a MS origin?
[19:20] <llutz> nashant: what is the sense of a _lockscreen_ without a password?
[19:20] <Kajunfiend> hmm
[19:20] <[Gentoo]> carlaaaa: clamav is in most repos
[19:20] <[Gentoo]> not sure how well other av's work
[19:21] <airking> hitsujiTMO: How would I go about switching from Unity to gnome3?
[19:21] <Christoph_vW> hitsujiTMO: did you read the changelog? 7.14: fixes: SA-CORE-2012-002, CVE-2012-1588,CVE-2012-1589, CVE-2012-1590,i
[19:21] <nashant> llutz: I meant user switch, not lockscreen
[19:22] <tread> hitsujiTMO, I ran those commands, rebooted, and... it worked! So, you're a life-saver. And I love you.
[19:22] <hitsujiTMO> install gnome. at lightdm, there should be an option to choose your desktop environment then
[19:23] <tread> hitsujiTMO, Any idea how my Nvidia drivers  became corrupted though? Was it likely the hard-reboot or something  prior to that (I had ~4 weeks uptime before this morning).
[19:23] <carlaaaa> ok Gentoo.. thanks for the help..
[19:23] <KI7MT> airking, install gnome-shell, if it's not already installed, and at your log in screen, select gnome as the default desktop.
[19:23] <hitsujiTMO> Christoph_vW: i see SA-CORE-2012-002 applies to 7.12 alright. you should report this as a bug if you wish for the maintainers to fix it. But my preffered wau of handling such sofware is to pull direct from drupal.org and not from the repos
[19:23] <hitsujiTMO> tread: maybe a kernel update might have been the trigger
[19:24] <airking> KI7MT: It's that simple?  It won't break anything
[19:24] <KI7MT> Yes
[19:24] <hitsujiTMO> tread: the hard reboot may have been incidental.
[19:24] <KI7MT> airking, Yes it's that simple, and not it should not break anything.
[19:25] <fatjon> can ubuntu note me when i recive an email?
[19:27] <tread> hitsujiTMO, Well, thanks again! Got a bitcoin address? If so, I'll send you a tip.
[19:27] <KI7MT> fatjon, Thunderbird and Evolution, probably other too, have pop-up balloons that tell you when new mail arrives.
[19:28] <fatjon> thunderbird dont tell
[19:30] <KI7MT> fatjon, TBird is what I use, and get them all day long, so, not sure why you don't get them.
[19:31] <fatjon> i re try with thunderbird
[19:31] <carlaaaa> can i play facebook zynga poker in ubuntu?
[19:31] <airking> I don't see why not
[19:32] <airking> What does it run in?
[19:32] <carlaaaa> adobe flash
[19:32] <KI7MT> fatjon, asl0, when you have TBird open, on the task bar Icon, it will show a number, that number is the number of new mails you have so you can keep an eye on that as well.
[19:32] <IdleOne> carlaaaa: you will probably need to install google Chrome browser https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/
[19:32] <airking> You should be able to run it, flash is supported on ubuntu, but it's an older version
[19:32] <[Gentoo]> carlaaaa: you should be able to run the same stuff as windows if its run in browser
[19:35] <ajf> someone here earlier said something to me like they doubted Compiz would help lag
[19:35] <ajf> well
[19:35] <ajf> I switched back to xfwm4 and everything seems fine
[19:35] <[Gentoo]> ajf:
[19:35] <ajf> so that's probably it
[19:35] <ajf> (even with compositing and opengl off, compiz seemed to cause lag)
[19:35] <[Gentoo]> i said compiz wont _increase_ performance in games :)
[19:35] <[Gentoo]> in other words it wont hurt to disable it
[19:35] <ajf> Yeah
[19:36] <[Gentoo]> if you want decent performance and latency you're better off with a light de
[19:37] <ajf> That's what I meant :P
[19:40] <fatjon> what is dip internet
[19:41] <fatjon> ?
[19:41] <fatjon> i listen for dipinternet  but dont know  what it is
[19:42] <MonkeyDust_> fatjon  where did you read or hear that?
[19:42] <fatjon> on internet
[19:43] <MonkeyDust_> fatjon  where on the internet? site?
[19:43] <[Gentoo]> fatjon: theres no such thing according to google
[19:44] <fatjon> i dot remember it. i find it interesat
[19:44] <KI7MT> There is, DIP is slang for leave, but it doesn't make sense that he's using it, DIP Internet aka Leave Internet .. dont really get that one.
[19:45] <fatjon> becuse was an  anonim internet
[19:46] <llutz> dip was used for dialup-connections to the internetz. in those days ...
[19:47] <MonkeyDust_> when we was young and beautiful
[19:49] <carlaaaa> i clicked on the link you gave for google chrome.. how do i install the file? nothing happens when i click on it.. sorry im new at this..
[19:50] <Jazz_Gen1> Hey everyone, I am having one issue with with Ubuntu 13.10 on a Lenovo Z580. Sometimes after a shut down my laptop will not boot into Ubuntu, just to a blank screen. If I restart it two or three times then it boots up fine. Anyone have any experience with this problem?
[19:53] <domy> ciao
[19:53] <domy> !list
[19:53] <phil-ns> ciao bella
[19:54] <michagogo|cloud> ...what is it with the Italians?
[19:54] <carlaaaa> i clicked on the link you gave for google chrome.. how do i install the file? nothing happens when i click on it.. sorry im new at this..
[19:55] <jhutchins> Jazz_Gen1: Which release?  Do you have other OSs on the system?  Hard drive or ssd?  Do you have smartmontools installed?
[19:55] <andyfied> carlaaaa: try this http://www.omgchrome.com/install-google-chrome-in-ubuntu-13-10/
[19:56] <phil-ns> Italians, well, we're more interested in women, wine and food than gaming and tech...so shoot us...but make sure to bring a gun with lots of bullets
[19:56] <andyfied> cos you dodge a lot?
[19:56] <phil-ns> or got more bullets
[19:57] <IdleOne> !ot
[20:01] <carlaaaa> thanks andyfied..
[20:02] <andyfied> carlaaaa: only thank me if it works :D
[20:02] <carlaaaa> it did hehehe
[20:03] <andyfied> yay!
[20:04] <carlaaaa> is it safe to play zynga poker in chrome? it has a lot of adware and phishing thingy  and some scripts running in the background...
[20:04] <[Gentoo]> carlaaaa: you would have to use some common sense
[20:06] <carlaaaa> ive only been using ubuntu for 3 days.. and i dno if it can affect the system.. but it ruined my windows os
[20:06] <[Gentoo]> carlaaaa: you'll be ok
[20:06] <andyfied> carlaaaa: depends if you copied over your windows partition
[20:06] <Beldar> carlaaaa, This zynga is on facebook right?
[20:07] <[Gentoo]> i wouldnt worry about a virus
[20:07] <carlaaaa> yes it is..
[20:07] <llutz> carlaaaa: "it has a lot of adware and phishing thingy  and some scripts running in the background"  <- but you still use it? people do odd things
[20:08] <Beldar> carlaaaa, All the links to it are okay-ed by wot web of trust, I don;t have a facebook account myself I suspect it is not what broke the windows.
[20:08] <Beldar> running windows in admin is the usual problem
[20:08] <Beldar> amongst others
[20:09] <carlaaaa> it  changed a lot of things in my root and registry
[20:10] <Beldar> carlaaaa, were you using the admin account?
[20:10] <carlaaaa> yes i was..
[20:10] <hassen> does Unetbootin allow a multi-boot screen of the distros within the flash usb stick?or it just make a live cd of 1 distro?
[20:10] <grep0r> carlaaaa, might you have a virus with windows?
[20:10] <[Gentoo]> carlaaaa: i doubt this game messed up windows if its an official facebook thing
[20:11] <[Gentoo]> i am guessing your computer is a bit of a mess
[20:11] <[Gentoo]> hassen: no
[20:11] <carlaaaa> i dont really know.. thats why i wanted to know earlier if i can scan my windows installer using ubuntu..
[20:11] <Beldar> carlaaaa, Always use a standard account in windows, and have a strong password for admin, and use windows with some good safety rules is all.
[20:11] <[Gentoo]> hassen: this apparently works: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
[20:11] <carlaaaa> coz it changed a lot of windows update that were not really from windows..
[20:12] <[Gentoo]> carlaaaa: i find that really hard to believe
[20:12] <[Gentoo]> screenshot maybe of windows update screen
[20:12] <[Gentoo]> lol
[20:13] <verodeb> hii...shmall is the same as shmmax only that shmall comes in a different format right?
[20:14] <[Gentoo]> verodeb: looks that way
[20:14] <[Gentoo]> https://forums.oracle.com/thread/2514518
[20:14] <Beldar> hassen, Do you want a multiboot usb loader and can you use ubuntu or linux to load it?
[20:14] <KI7MT> How do we suggest a new factoid for Ubuttu ?
[20:15] <carlaaaa> then when i tried to reformat and reinstall.. windows installation said it it was succesful.. i ever deleted the partitions and created a new one.. but when i used it it was still running a bit fishy.. so i installed ubuntu then ubuntu saw a small partition with all the fishy files..
[20:15] <verodeb> Gentoo: ok my system says... shmmax=33554432 and shmall=2097152
[20:15] <verodeb> shmmax from bytes to mb = 32 mb
[20:16] <verodeb> shmall = shmmax/page_size ?
[20:16] <carlaaaa> so i reformated the whole disk with ubuntu hopefully its all gone now.. i havent installed windows yet for the 5th time.. im too tired and scared to try haha
[20:16] <jhutchins> KI7MT: Plese see PM.
[20:18] <Beldar> carlaaaa, Go to the ##windows channel and ask for the safety link they have for using windows, it is excellent and if followed you should have no problems.
[20:19] <carlaaaa> ok.. hoping i wouldnt be redirected to a certain site..
[20:19] <carlaaaa> pleaaasseee
[20:19] <andyfied> not sure what you mean by fishy files
[20:20] <andyfied> you will need to go to a windows support channel to get help for that though
[20:20] <keldwud> hello
[20:21] <andyfied> hello
[20:21] <keldwud> so I'm having a heck of a time learning network manager and resolvconf, but I've made it to a certain point and now I'm stuck
[20:21] <keldwud> is this an appropriate place to discuss it?
[20:21] <keldwud> it's on ubuntu
[20:22] <MonkeyDust_> !ask | keldwud
[20:22] <genii> keldwud: A more specific description also helps
[20:24] <keldwud> I can't ping hostnames on my local network. This is because I don't have the correct nameservers in my resolv.conf file. I am running ubuntu desktop. I can resolve the issue by editing /etc/network/interfaces and including dns-nameservers and dns-search. however this is not ideal as network manager manages my connections
[20:24] <keldwud> I have edited my connection and added the proper nameservers in network manager under the ipv4 settings
[20:24] <keldwud> however, these do not propagate through resolvconf to /etc/resolv.conf
[20:24] <keldwud> so I have many workarounds to get hostname resolution working
[20:25] <keldwud> but I would like to get it working with networkmanager and resolvconf still intact
[20:25] <keldwud> if I use /etc/network/interfaces, network manager throws a fit upon reboot
[20:25] <llutz> keldwud: add your settings manually to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head   and run "sudo resolvconf -u " then
[20:26] <keldwud> llutz: I was reading about that. is that the only way? is to manually edit the file which /etc/resolv.conf is symlinked to?
[20:26] <keldwud> I also wanted to find out why network manager doesn't pass the information along like I assumed it would
[20:27] <llutz> keldwud: idk if it the only way, it is one way. /etc/resolv.conf will be built from the 3 files in  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/
[20:27] <keldwud> and that will persist?
[20:27] <llutz> keldwud: yes
[20:27] <keldwud> my other workarounds wouldn't persist, unfortunately
[20:27] <keldwud> although there was the option of removing resolvconf and network manager altogether
[20:27] <keldwud> but that defeats the purpose
[20:29] <llutz> keldwud: i don't see any use in networkmanager on non-portable-computers but it should work anyways.
[20:29] <keldwud> was it nameserver or nameservers (plural)?
[20:29] <llutz> keldwud: nameserver        in head
[20:29] <llutz> keldwud: dns-namserverS in /etc/network/interfaces
[20:30] <llutz> lowercase s there ofc
[20:30] <keldwud> ok that's why I was confused. there *is* a plural one and a singular one
[20:30] <verodeb> hi, how can i calculate shmmax and shmall if i want 512mb of shared memory?
[20:31] <jhutchins> keldwud: Actually, the right way to fix this is to have your DHCP server provide the correct DNS servers.
[20:31] <keldwud> jhutchins: that's what I was looking for :)
[20:31] <keldwud> does that work even if I set things statically?
[20:31] <keldwud> can I still have dhcp push the correct dns servers?
[20:32] <jhutchins> keldwud: If you have a static address, dhcp isn't called, so no.
[20:32] <jhutchins> keldwud: If you have reserved addresses provided by dhcp, then it works.
[20:32] <keldwud> llutz: that worked like a charm, thanks. Haven't done a reboot yet, but I trust that it will persist now, thanks
[20:33] <keldwud> jhutchins: yeah, I have quite a mixed environment. one network manager did dhcp right, and the other network manager did everything statically
[20:33] <keldwud> my work computer is on the second network
[20:34] <keldwud> anyway, thanks for the help guys. jhutchins, llutz.
[20:34] <jhutchins> keldwud: Network-manager is useful if you change networks/connections frequently.  If you're always on the same network when you're on it's better to just use the interfaces file.
[20:35] <llutz> ack ^
[20:35] <keldwud> so why does it come as default in ubuntu distro?
[20:35] <keldwud> if a lot of people have to disable it to get things to work
[20:36] <llutz> keldwud: it was called to replace the old ifupdown and found its way into a lot of distros
[20:36] <KI7MT> To make it easy for people to get connected  .. aka easy Wireless setup etc.
[20:36] <keldwud> okay that makes sense. I could see how if it weren't included, many people wouldn't make the switch
[20:36] <bekks> keldwud: Honestly I have no clue why people do have problems with NM in pretty easy setups. I am using it for static IPs, DHCP, non-changing networks, changing networks, and I never had any issues with it.
[20:37] <keldwud> bekks: except for the part where I couldn't add a new nameserver for DNS :-p
[20:37] <keldwud> other than that, I prefer to use it as well
[20:38] <verodeb> please help
[20:39] <verodeb> how can i calculate shmmax and shmall if i want 512mb of shared memory?
[20:40] <keldwud> also, sorry for the "hey guys, can I ask a question?" question earlier. I totally know better, but just completely derped that.
[20:40] <FafaZyrafa> hello everybody
[20:40] <KI7MT> bekks, +1 .. same here, I use for shared NICS, multi's ports, Static, DHCP, all sorts, works like a champ for me.
[20:43] <KI7MT> verodeb, how to calculate it is up to you, but sysctrl can modify it. Run sysctl with -p parameter to load in sysctl settings from the default file /etc/sysctl.conf but know what your doing when you do this, as it can cause all sorts of problems.
[20:48] <yoseforb> Hey
[20:48] <yoseforb> What is the GTK+ version in the current ubuntu?
[20:49] <KI7MT> verodeb, But to set to 512mb, see this page, warning, try it at your own risk: http://www.unidata.ucar.edu/software/mcidas/current/users_guide/workstation.html
[20:49] <trism> !info libgtk-3-0 | yoseforb
[20:49] <yoseforb> ok, 3.8, thanks
[20:49] <yoseforb> And in the next release? it will 3.10 or still with 3.8?
[20:51] <yoseforb> trism: I haven't ubuntu for check this...
[20:51] <trism> !info libgtk-3-0 trusty | yoseforb
[20:52] <KI7MT> That was pretty nifty, gonna remember that one.
[20:52] <yoseforb> ubottu: This will in the next release of ubuntu? 14.04?
[20:52] <trism> yoseforb: yes trusty is 14.04
[20:52] <yoseforb> ubottu: Thanks!
[20:55] <tortib> Hello
[20:55] <KI7MT> Hi
[20:56] <tortib> I have a question about wine and World of Warcraft, when I run wow in wine i get about 5 FPS what am I doing wrong the WineHQ DB states it should be running optimally.
[20:56] <KI7MT> tortib, Probably best to ask in winehq channel
[20:56] <K4k> Hi, I'm getting a failed to install grub bootloader when I installed /dev/sdaa (the first disk on my system). It works fine when I use /dev/sda on another system. Do I need to specify something special if I'm not using a three letter drive name?
[20:58] <KI7MT> K4k, is /dev/sdaa whay your using ? I would think it should be /dev/sda not sdaa
[20:59] <tortib> KI7MT: maybe you can answer this before I check there, what are the AMD drivers from the Oibaf PPA about?
[20:59] <tortib> I have an ATI Radeon HD 6950
[20:59] <K4k> KI7MT: If I use /dev/sda the installer fails. If I cat /proc/partitions in tty2 during install I get a whole bunch of /dev/sda{a,b,c,etc} and /dev/sdb{a,b,c,etc}. I believe this is due to the disk controller on the system.
[20:59] <tortib> ah i found the problem I'm not using accelerated graphics
[21:00] <KI7MT> K4k, we could go into long discussion on this but, Grub  installs data to the MBR, and in simple terms is not a partition. rather  it's a small section on a device specifically for booting OS's
[21:00] <tortib> i'm getting 25FPS in GLXgears
[21:00] <K4k> KI7MT: I know this, that's why I'm confused. My preseed file is telling the installer to install to the MBR, not a partition
[21:01] <yoseforb> It possible to install GTK+ 3.10 in Ubuntu 13.10, with PPA or something?
[21:02] <KI7MT> K4k, Is that not the behavior you want in yoru preseed or is the ourcome not what yoru expecting, kinda confused on that part
[21:02] <KI7MT> tortib, I have no idea which PPA you should use for that.
[21:02] <tortib> https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/graphics-drivers
[21:02] <tortib> I found that
[21:03] <KI7MT> tortib, SRI but I use all Nvidia, I reall ahve no Idea bout AMD cards.
[21:06] <KI7MT> K4k, ok, re-read you post it's failing, got it .. That is odd, as the normal way to install ti MBR no on a partition. Does your pressed conf setup allot of specific partitions or something ?
[21:07] <RealKillaz> sorry for other in this channel and linux, but seems that no one can help me in the othr channel.. maybe you know:
[21:07] <RealKillaz> What's wrong with this iptables entry:  iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 2022 -i eth0 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.0.1.137:22
[21:08] <nyRednek> if one is running precise, and wants to update to saucy, need one update through each release?
 It possible to install GTK+ 3.10 in Ubuntu 13.10, with PPA or something?
[21:11] <KI7MT> nyRednek, in a word, yes, LTS to LTS is a one shot deal, but the releases in between are not, if you want 13.10 and your on 12.04, you better off just installing 13.10 directly.
[21:11] <nashant> Is there a way I can disable the password when switching users?
[21:11] <nashant> on 13.10
[21:11] <nyRednek> KI7MT: thanks
[21:11] <nysk> hi there
[21:13] <Mihey> всем привет
[21:13] <Mihey> нужна помощь
[21:14] <KI7MT> nashant, I'm sure there's a workaround for this, but that defeats the security model of the system and really doesn't make allot of sense to do that.
[21:14] <Mihey> поставил на убунту прогу - называется stratum proxy , незнаю как добавить её в автозагруку
[21:14] <llutz> !ru | Mihey
[21:14] <Mihey> не пускает
[21:15] <lickalott> whoa
[21:15] <llutz> !register | Mihey
[21:16] <Mihey> аа, спс ща сделаю :)
[21:16] <Mihey> !register Mihey
[21:16] <Mihey> !register | Mihey
[21:17] <microamp> running 12.04, what's the recommended way of installing xulrunner?
[21:18] <HiddenCloud> hi
[21:18] <HiddenCloud> I've got a new SSD and I want to move ubuntu to the SSD but keep the /home folder on my current hddd
[21:18] <KI7MT> yoseforb, Yes, you can build it your selld, use build essential and buld-dep then something like checkinstall for installation so you can easily remove it when the upstram package is formally released.
[21:19] <K4k> KI7MT: (sorry for the slow reply) No, I'm literally just specifying the disk I want to install to. I was trying to do something fancy yesterday to detect what the name of the first drive in /proc/partitions was but that was failing miserably so I reverted. Here's my preseed file if your (or anyone) want to sanity check me: http://pastebin.com/7Jugfy7H
[21:19] <[Gentoo]> HiddenCloud: you'd need to put that /home in fstab
[21:19] <HiddenCloud> I'm sort of a newbie with linux, I guess fstab is where all the locations of folders are kept?
[21:20] <[Gentoo]> yes the mountpoints and options
[21:20] <HiddenCloud> so how would I move all stuff except /home to the ssd?
[21:21] <HiddenCloud> I have it mounted and formatted
[21:21] <mdelcx> fstab maps the physical and logical disks to a filesystem
[21:21] <[Gentoo]> you could use rsync from a livecd, but you would have to redo grub
[21:21] <lonewulf85> Hello everyone I seem to be having issue with my fglrx driver as my dim keys do not work.
[21:21] <HiddenCloud> cant I do it just from terminal?
[21:21] <[Gentoo]> HiddenCloud: yes
[21:22] <Mihey> Всем спасибо :) !
[21:22] <erikh4cker> ola :D
[21:22] <mdelcx> lonewulf85, you mean your brightness keys?
[21:22] <erikh4cker> w w w . youtube . com / erikh4cker
[21:22] <xen> What's the most active Freenode channel?
[21:23] <[Gentoo]> this
[21:23] <KI7MT> K4k, I dont see anything regaurding the MBR that would cause an issue, unless maybe there's an old install causing issues somehow.
[21:23] <KI7MT> xen, This one.
[21:23] <xen> KI7MT: Is it actually?
[21:23] <duel-traviis> Guys I need help, Im trying to download this windows 7 iso trial 9 switching back to windows) and now WHen i try and download the 3.1 gb file it says I dont have enough space. What do i do??? Running a live session of ubuntu 13.10
[21:23] <K4k> KI7MT: the system had Solaris on it last. I suppose it couldn't hurt to wipe the drive's partition tables with gparted or something and try again. Good thought.
[21:23] <KI7MT> I dont know :-) .. but it's the most active one I go into.
[21:24] <[Gentoo]> xen: it depends, sometimes this channel is quiet an others are busy
[21:24] <[Gentoo]> xen: this has most users
[21:24] <xen> [Gentoo]: Awesome, thanks
[21:24] <K4k> duel-traviis: Do you have a usb stick?
[21:24] <duel-traviis> K4k, Yes
[21:24] <K4k> plug that in and download your ISO to that.
[21:24] <lonewulf85> I am running Ubuntu 12.04 x86_64 on an acer aspire one AO722-0879
[21:25] <K4k> the live CD's storage space is limited (to RAM I think?)
[21:25] <mdelcx> #bitcoin has more users :)
[21:25] <duel-traviis> K4k, Its plugged in, Do i need to set the dl path in firefox?
[21:25] <KI7MT> K4k, Yeah, Maybe goign in to the drive and repartitioning to a single, or removing them alltogether would resolve it.
[21:25] <K4k> duel-traviis: yes
[21:25] <[Gentoo]> mdelcx: does it o ok
[21:25] <duel-traviis> K4k, Where would that be? :)
[21:25] <mdelcx> [Gentoo], incredible, I know
[21:25] <duel-traviis> K4k,  Got it, Thanks!
[21:26] <[Gentoo]> mdelcx: i havent checked it or been on it (im not into bitcoin stuff)
[21:27] <mdelcx> [Gentoo], same, but I was kinda surprised to see it was the top channel
[21:28] <KI7MT> mdelcx, it's $$ and we all know what that means.
[21:28] <icatmeow> meow
[21:28] <nashant> KI7MT: I'm the only one using this machine, and I have a log in as my apache user and user PhpStorm as that user. It's gonna get really tiresome if I have to keep whacking in passwords every time I switch. What I'd REALLY love is if I could ctrl+alt+arrow between the two users, just like switching workspaces
[21:28] <KI7MT> whooof
[21:28] <mdelcx> KI7MT, true, but there isn't a #US-Dollar :)
[21:29] <icatmeow> icat
[21:29] <mdelcx> nashant, drop to a different runlevel, startx, login ?
[21:29] <icatmeow> How install Ubuntu on the cat?
[21:29] <KI7MT> LOL currency is currency .. and thus, the bad guys luring, nuf-said :-) OT
[21:29] <HiddenCloud> I need instructions to move all the files except /home from my current hdd to my ssd
[21:29] <nashant> mdelcx: How would that help?
[21:30] <mdelcx> CTRL+ALT+<Fx> to switch users
[21:30] <mdelcx> there's probably a way to accomplish whatever yuo need with groups, but this would work in a pinch
[21:30] <andyfied> HiddenCloud: you could install on the ssd then you wouldn't need to?
[21:31] <HiddenCloud> no, I want all my current os to there
[21:31] <HiddenCloud> then keep /home on this hdd
[21:31] <HiddenCloud> but first I'll have to move it
[21:31] <michagogo|cloud> !info bitcoin
[21:31] <michagogo|cloud> !info bitcoin trusty
[21:31] <icatmeow> My cat (male) have 2 ports for the usb flash drive. I can install Ubuntu on the my cat?
[21:31] <michagogo|cloud> !info bitcoind
[21:31] <michagogo|cloud> !info bitcoind trusty
[21:32] <andyfied> icatmeow: current drivers do not support your hardware
[21:32] <TripleX> Hey everyone. I had a quick question
[21:32] <andyfied> icatmeow: or wetware i suppose
[21:32] <anonsomnia> Hello :) So I ran some scans with rkhunter & chrootkit, just wondering how I go about verifying the threats to be threats & not false positives?
[21:33] <TripleX> Anyone know how to make tty2 the default terminal you see when logging in?
[21:33] <KI7MT> icatmeow, not sure I follow your question, but if you asking can you install Ubuntu to a USB drive, the answer is yes.
[21:33] <TripleX> I got it right now so tty1 is the default, but I can't figure out how to change it to tty2
[21:33] <andyfied> HiddenCloud: i'm pretty sure it's easier to do a clean install on your new drive
[21:33] <HiddenCloud> i know but i have som eissue's with it
[21:33] <HiddenCloud> and I dont wanna move my files manually
[21:33] <HiddenCloud> nor re-install all the stuff ive installed
[21:34] <fatjon> what is 700 MIB
[21:34] <lonewulf85> please help dim keys do not work
[21:34] <andyfied> HiddenCloud: it's not just a case of copying the files since you won't copy the boot sector
[21:34] <HiddenCloud> and re-setup my wine prefix and stuff like that
[21:34] <fatjon> what is 700 MIB
[21:34] <HiddenCloud> I know
[21:34] <HiddenCloud> but that's the first step
[21:34] <KI7MT> nashant, I dont know how you've setup / installed your server SW, and it's probably best discussed in ubuntu-server, but you should not have to keep switching suers to do log reviews.
[21:34] <Beldar> fatjon, 70% of a gig, lol
[21:34] <Beldar> or so
[21:34] <icatmeow> ok, then i can install ubuntu on the my cat. 2 ports, one front and one rear.
[21:35] <fatjon> beldar. gigabyt?
[21:35] <andyfied> HiddenCloud: well install the OS then copy the contents of /usr/bin
[21:35] <andyfied> icatmeow: i think you need to compile your own kernal for cats
[21:35] <KI7MT> icatmeow, in general, you can install ubuntu to any USB storage device that you BIOS allows you to boot from.
[21:36] <mdelcx> icatmeow, yeah, you need a kernel for meow86 arch
[21:36] <andyfied> i feel cat brain is non standard storage device
[21:36] <hassen> wow..that MultiSystem app looks perfect..
[21:36] <Beldar> fatjon, That is a pointless question, what is the issue?
[21:37] <KI7MT> hassen, what multi-sys app ?
[21:37] <fatjon> beldar. i'm dowloadind and it saw 700 MIB
[21:37] <hassen> KI7MT, have a look:  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[21:38] <Beldar> fatjon, It's a measurement of the size of the data.
[21:38] <hassen> i'm trying it,it looks neat
[21:38] <Beldar> amount/size
[21:38] <KI7MT> hassen, Ok, yes, read that earlier, look pretty nifty, thought I've not tried it out yet.
[21:38] <fatjon> how mega is a MIB?
[21:38] <hassen> KI7MT, whatever you want.
[21:39] <K4k> HiddenCloud: I'd second what andyfied is saying. I just tried to type out steps for you but realized it would probably trip FloodBot
[21:39] <HiddenCloud> you can pastebin them if you want
[21:39] <fatjon> beldar. how mega is a MIB?
[21:39] <HiddenCloud> installing a new os on it isnt an option
[21:39] <HiddenCloud> due to my dvdrom making dubstep
[21:39] <Beldar> fatjon, this is ubuntu support, first how is this related, and two the web is full of info use it
[21:39] <K4k> usb stick?
[21:39] <KI7MT> hassen, would need a pretty fast pen-drive though or you'd get bored waiting for boots to finish :-)
[21:39] <HiddenCloud> nope, lost it like a year ago
[21:39] <HiddenCloud> I did this before
[21:40] <HiddenCloud> just not with an assd
[21:40] <fatjon> ooooooooooooooooo
[21:40] <HiddenCloud> that time I made an image
[21:40] <HiddenCloud> but this time its not possible
[21:40] <fatjon> ok ok
[21:40] <K4k> HiddenCloud: it's possible, just very high risk of foobar
[21:40] <hassen> KI7MT, yep
[21:40] <HiddenCloud> whats the name of the file-browser from xubuntu?
[21:41] <K4k> thunar?
[21:41] <HiddenCloud> oh yeah
[21:41] <HiddenCloud> keep forgetting
[21:42] <andyfied> right
[21:43] <andyfied> so i still recommend buying a usb stick then installing from scratch. if you really want to do it the tough way you might want to search on ubuntuforums.org
[21:43] <KI7MT> rr. yeah Thunar is Xub FM
[21:43] <andyfied> cos i have no clue
[21:54] <KI7MT> K4k, just curious .. are you installing / administering lots of systems or just the one?
[21:55] <K4k> KI7MT: a bunch. This is the first one I've done, however, that has enough hard drives in it to wrap from sda-z and then start doing sdaa-az
[21:55] <mdelcx> damn
[21:55] <K4k> oh, I am in gparted now on the system and found out that that's why I am seeing it, it's not because of the disk controller. This thing just has a *#@! ton of disks
[21:56] <KI7MT> K4k, Landscape may be a tool better suited for you needs then.  Foud this tib-bit on preseeds: Although most questions used by debian-installer can be preseeded using this method, there are some notable exceptions. You must (re)partition an entire disk or use available free space on a disk; it is not possible to use existing partitions.
[21:56] <genii> Sounds like a NAS
[21:56] <shreezbot> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my homeserver machine and it keeps hanging at language select.  I checked the md5sub and they do not match.  Is there a way around this?
[21:56] <K4k> genii: it will be :)
[21:56] <shreezbot> md5sum even...
[21:57] <icatmeow> ok, I connected flash, and how restart my cat?
[21:57] <K4k> KI7MT: I would LOVE to use landscape if Canonical would ever call me back about my inquiries
[21:57] <gordonjcp> icatmeow: depends on the cat
[21:57] <K4k> I've tried reaching out to them about a dozen times and I never receive an email from anyone about getting a quote
[21:57] <gordonjcp> icatmeow: some cats may have a nonmaskable interrupt that you can fire with a small laser pointer
[21:57] <KI7MT> K4k, ok .. can't help with that one :-)
[21:57] <K4k> yeah, sorry, just ranting :)
[21:58] <Calinou> KI7MT sounds like a canonical employee
[21:58] <Calinou> suggesting landscape... never seen anyone using that
[21:58] <K4k> He had me fooled ;)
[21:58] <genii> Heh, "how do I restart my cat?"
[21:58] <KI7MT> Calinou, No, Im not, but if the $$ were right I would certainly entertain the idea :-)
[21:59] <ertl> hello guys, I made a /etc/init.d script to start a PHP script on boot, but it fails with "start-stop-daemon: unable to start /var/www/Trasporti/Script_Tracker.php (No such file or directory)". Obviously the path is correct and Script_Tracker.php has 777 permission... what's wrong?
[21:59] <gmachine_24> greetings. I am doing a back up before version upgrade - so just backing up data and the list of programs installed - should I exclude the hidden files in the home directory ... those ./ ones ....?? won't they confuse a new install?
[22:00] <K4k> gmachine_24: depends, some of those are configuration files you might want to preserve
[22:00] <gmachine_24> ertI are you sure the script is correct?
[22:00] <icatmeow> I have a little tesla coil. Post a cat jolt of electricity?
[22:00] <RealKillaz> Please I really ned some help with this iptable rule: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 2022 -i eth0 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.0.1.137:22
[22:00] <ertl> gmachine_24: it works if I run it by hand
[22:01] <RealKillaz> Is it OK?
[22:01] <gmachine_24> K4k, yes, but . . . OK, so if I back them up and then restore over the new install......... won't that also cause some problems? or no ....
[22:01] <K4k> gmachine_24: some of them will ;)
[22:02] <icatmeow> ys?
[22:02] <K4k> let me see if I can remember which ones are the most important
[22:02] <gmachine_24> K4k, right, which brings me back to where I began :-)
[22:02] <KI7MT> RealKillaz, im not an iptables guru, but what are you trying to route ?
[22:02] <jhutchins> !tell RealKillaz about ics
[22:03] <gmachine_24> ertI, if you run it by hand as in type it out in a command line?
[22:05] <gmachine_24> ...or terminal.......?
[22:05] <RealKillaz> KI7MT,  I'm trying to setup a NAT.... on one server..
[22:05] <icatmeow> His wool stood on end. And from him smells bad.
[22:06] <KI7MT> RealKillaz, ahh ok .. now I can have a poke around  and see what falls out.
[22:06] <RealKillaz> KI7MT, one server is in a public subnet and should route the port on the public subnet to another port of another machine in a private subnet
[22:07] <RealKillaz> So I can reach the machine in the private subnet: telnet <ip-of-machine-A> 22 is giving me the correct result..
[22:07] <RealKillaz> when I'm on the machine B which is in the public subnet
[22:08] <icatmeow> Cat stopped moving and not breathing. USB flash driver fall like a bullet.
[22:08] <KI7MT> RealKillaz, I understand what your doing, have a looky here: http://www.howtoforge.com/nat_iptables
[22:08] <RealKillaz> So I;m trying to put an iptable rule that allows me to route the port 2022 on the public machine to the port 22 of the private machine
[22:08] <icatmeow> Is this normal? So it should be?
[22:08] <K4k> gmachine_24: can you pastebin me a list of the .* files/directories in your home directory. I can give you an idea of the ones that you don't need to bring if you want.
[22:09] <K4k> without knowing what you have it's hard to say what you should backup and what you should not
[22:09] <fishcooker> i have server 10.04 ... how to know from command line the startup program running/ init.d ... list running program automatically
[22:09] <icatmeow> Ok. Fight fire with fire.
[22:10] <jhutchins> RealKillaz: Is the information ubottu sent you useful?
[22:10] <K4k> fishcooker: I believe you're looking for initctl list
[22:11] <gmachine_24> K4K, good point........ what is the pastebin address again please? ignore all the files marked "secret NSA data"
[22:11] <K4k> I don't know how far back that works, however
[22:11] <K4k> pastebin.com
[22:11] <fever308> Can anyone tell me a good game for linux that works for every architecture?
[22:11] <gmachine_24> K4k, just anywhere... ok.......brb
[22:11] <K4k> I don't know if there is a prefered one for this channel. I apologize to anyone watching that cares if there is
[22:11] <KI7MT> fever308, probably not a question for Ubuntu Support Channel
[22:11] <jhutchins> fever308: Most of us don't know "every architecture", but I do know that not all packages are ported to all architectures, so it's hard to say.
[22:12] <icatmeow> The second jolt of electricity has not helped. :( Cat flew out the window.
[22:13] <r1tz> Hi, have anyone recently build pyv8 successfully?
[22:13] <K4k> gmachine_24: you're welcome to dm it to me if you don't want to publicize it for some reason.
[22:14] <icatmeow> I go to the street to look for him. Besides, it's time to feed.
[22:14] <fever308> jhutchins: I need one for armhf
[22:14] <TripleX> Hello everyone. I'm having a problem when trying to boot to terminal instead of X
[22:14] <TripleX> Anyone have a minute to chat?
[22:14] <jhutchins> !armhf
[22:15] <TripleX> I'm trying to boot just to terminal and startx if I need the GUI
[22:15] <fever308> !armhf
[22:15] <fever308> !armel
[22:15] <TripleX> i figured out how to do this, but startx fails...
[22:15] <MonkeyDust_> TripleX  GDM has that option, LightDM does not, so install GDM
[22:16] <TripleX> MonkeyDust: I'm using Lubuntu, does that change anything?
[22:16] <TripleX> I'm quite new to this all.
[22:16] <kostkon> TripleX, to start X do sudo service lightdm start
[22:16] <MonkeyDust_> TripleX  i missed that part
[22:16] <kostkon> TripleX, oh lubuntu..
[22:16] <TripleX> MonkeyDust_: I forgot to mention that
[22:16] <TripleX> kostkon: I was able to get it to boot to the terminal and everything worked, but running "startx" resulted in a black screen...
[22:16] <TripleX> I undid what i did and the GUI is working again but only when booting by default.
[22:17] <TripleX> the goal was to boot into tty2 (because tty1 has junk in it and is unusable) and run "startx" when/if I need a gui
[22:18] <Allisonfdsdfs> Hello
[22:18] <Allisonfdsdffds> Hello
[22:18] <TripleX> MonkeyDust_: any ideas?
[22:18] <Allisonfdsdffds> I need some help :p
[22:18] <TripleX> kostkon: if you got any ideas as well, let me know
[22:18] <kostkon> TripleX, try sudo service lightdm start
[22:18] <K4k> TripleX: everything I'm finding indicates that lubuntu uses LightDM in which case "service lightdm start" should work
[22:18] <_pers3us_> Allisonfdsdffds, What?
[22:19] <KI7MT> TripleX, just for info, is this a server or desktop install ?
[22:19] <TripleX> KI7MT: Desktop
[22:19] <TripleX> so startx was technically incorrect
[22:19] <TripleX> so from terminal, I just run that command to start the gui, is that correct/
[22:19] <kostkon> TripleX, yes
[22:19] <KI7MT> yes
[22:19] <TripleX> Fantastic!
[22:19] <Allisonfdsdffds> _pers3us_, ugh.. i dunno if I got in right room for that but... i want to run chat czat.wp.pl up on irc :p
[22:19] <TripleX> I had one other question guys
[22:20] <TripleX> Any idea how to default it to tty2?
[22:20] <_pers3us_> TripleX, What are you trying to do?
[22:20] <TripleX> I couldnt figure that out and it isn't really neccessary as I can ctrl alt f2 but tty1 is useless to me
[22:20] <TripleX> pers3us_: I'm trying to make lubuntu boot to tty2 instead of tty1
[22:20] <Allisonfdsdffds> anynone help me? :p
[22:20] <Allisonfdsdffds> crap...
[22:21] <_pers3us_> Allisonfdsdffds, What is the problem then? Use any irc program and fire it up
[22:21] <Allisonfdsdffds> im a totall newbie at this things
[22:21] <_pers3us_> umm tt1?
[22:21] <[erk]hacker> hey
[22:21] <[erk]hacker> wtf ?
[22:21] <icatmeow> Excellent, I found my cat. But he still was not breathing. Today will be a severe thunderstorm. I think a good thunderbolt revive him. I tie him to the antenna on the roof. And to see him in the morning.
[22:21] <_pers3us_> TripleX, tty1? the DM boots to tty7 iirc
[22:21] <Allisonfdsdffds> _pers3us_, well... I dont know how :p I barely could open this chat :p
[22:21] <KI7MT> TripleX, You can use bind to change the default tty but it's not straight forward.
[22:21] <[erk]hacker> fofly bye
[22:22] <Allisonfdsdffds> im not a tech girl
[22:22] <_pers3us_> TripleX,  You don't want the desktop starting up right?
[22:22] <_pers3us_> Allisonfdsdffds, Hmm, which chat client are you using.
[22:22] <shreezbot> Ok, how am I supposed to install Ubuntu, when the only way I have to download it is from a Windows machine and the md5sums are always different????
[22:22] <KI7MT> TripleX, bascially, you use bind and bind it to a function script of sorts.
[22:22] <TripleX> pers3us_: It does normally, but when I edit grub to "quiet splash text" it boots to tty1
[22:23] <Allisonfdsdffds> _pers3us_, XChat IRC on ubuntu studio :p
[22:23] <TripleX> KI7MT: Alright, i think that is more complex then i am looking for
[22:23] <_pers3us_> Ah, so it boots alright but then?
[22:23] <TripleX> pers3us_: That is correct, i want to start at tty2 (a shell) and boot to GUI if needed.
[22:23] <KI7MT> TripleX, I'll go find an example.
[22:23] <TripleX> pers3us_: It just goes to tty1 instead of 2
[22:23] <TripleX> Its not a big issue, just an inconvience really
[22:24] <Allisonfdsdffds> damn... i knew I wont find it heplful :p
[22:24] <_pers3us_> Allisonfdsdffds, Xchat on top menu > Network List > Add > Add  the url of the network
[22:24] <andyfied> shreezbot: have you tried the torrent?
[22:24] <KI7MT> TripleX, have a look at man chvt also
[22:24] <shreezbot> andyfied, Yup!  Just tried it.  Still don't match for some reason...
[22:24] <KI7MT> TripleX, have a look at man chvt also
[22:25] <KI7MT> TripleX, Found one: Change TTY Shortcut Linky: http://askubuntu.com/questions/147128/change-default-tty-shortcut
[22:25] <TripleX> Ill take a look at that now
[22:25] <_pers3us_> TripleX, Umm, I am not able to understand tty1? Have you disabled lightdm or whatever dm service you have from init? Is Xorg running?
[22:25] <TripleX> both the man page and the URL you linked
[22:25] <andyfied> what torrent client are you using?
[22:25] <Allisonfdsdffds> _pers3us_, okay... I got that but nothing is happening... Do I have to edit some settings?
[22:25] <TripleX> pers3us_: I'm not sure if i am using the correct terminology but to my understanding ctrl+alt+f1 always has system stuff running
[22:26] <TripleX> pers3us_: I wanted to boot to ctrl + alt + f2, so I could have a clean shell to boot to
[22:26] <icatmeow> If nothing happens, then Ubuntu killed my cat.
[22:26] <_pers3us_> TripleX, Oh! IIRC you need some script for that, it doesn't go directly in tty2
[22:26] <icatmeow> imho
[22:27] <_pers3us_> Allisonfdsdffds, Wait a min, lemme check.
[22:27] <TripleX> pers3us_: Yea sorry, I didn't know how to communicate that, is tty2 the correct terminolog?
[22:27] <_pers3us_> Allisonfdsdffds, What was the url again.
[22:27] <Allisonfdsdffds> _pers3us_, thank u. Im waitnig
[22:27] <TripleX> *terminology
[22:27] <_pers3us_> Yes
[22:27] <Allisonfdsdffds> _pers3us_, czat.wp.pl
[22:27] <gmachine_24> K4k, http://pastebin.com/V9TmQ8KQ
[22:28] <TripleX> KI7MT: thank you for that man and URL, I didnt know that
[22:29] <TripleX> KI7MT: Its close to what i was trying to do, as I was trying to automate it to go to tty2
[22:29] <Lope> I've just deleted a file accidentally (I clicked rename but netbeans thought I clicked delete due to a bug) is there a FAST way to undelete the file ? EXT4 32GB partition without scanning the whole disk cluster by cluster?
[22:29] <KI7MT> TripleX, just for info: Terminal = tty = text input/output environment, A console = physical terminal, A shell = command line interpreter
[22:29] <TripleX> KI7MT: Oh! I think I got what you were saying. Make a script to execute that command at start
[22:29] <jhutchins> Allisonfdsdffds: http://xchat.org/faq/
[22:29] <KI7MT> TripleX, yes, exactly
[22:29] <TripleX> KI7MT: Ahhh I did not know ttyl was an equiv. Thanks for the info and the idea!
[22:29] <Allisonfdsdffds> jhesketh_, very funny
[22:29] <anonymous_> hello
[22:30] <jhutchins> !paste
[22:30] <TripleX> Alright, I think I understand everything you guys are saying.
[22:30] <anonymous_> how ya guys doin
[22:30] <TripleX> Thank you aqll very much, I'm going to headout. Much appreciated!
[22:30] <jhutchins> pastebin.com is blocked by many filters (for good reason).
[22:30] <Allisonfdsdffds> anonymous_, shitty... no one willing to help me :p
[22:30] <anonymous_> Jonathan Hutchins
[22:30] <TripleX> Have a great holiday everyone!
[22:31] <anonymous_> what allisin
[22:31] <_pers3us_> Allisonfdsdffds, M unable to connect to this url  czat.wp.pl
[22:31] <anonymous_> allison*
[22:31] <Allisonfdsdffds> _pers3us_, haw about their ip 212.77.100.113 :p
[22:32] <gmachine_24> ok how about this instead......... http://paste.ubuntu.com/6602248/
[22:33] <_pers3us_> Allisonfdsdffds, Connecting to 212.77.100.113:6667 (212.77.100.113:6667)
[22:33] <_pers3us_> * Connection failed (Connection refused)
[22:35] <mike-irssi> IRCnet has a #wp.pl
[22:35] <_pers3us_> Allisonfdsdffds, Simplest way to connect it to use /server command, go to xchat>new>server tab    there type /server <serverurl>    default it will connect to port 6667
[22:35] <andyfied> 212.77.100.113 is a website
[22:35] <Allisonfdsdffds> _pers3us_, ugh... I see this is gonna be more troublesome that i thought... Thank u very much for helping anyway
[22:35] <_pers3us_> np
[22:35] <Allisonfdsdffds> _pers3us_, lemme try
[22:36] <K4k> jhutchins: thanks for that, I wasn't sure if there was a paste.ubuntu or not. I'll have people use that in the future
[22:36] <kostkon> andyfied, on port 80 yeah it could be
[22:36] <anonymous_> HEYYYYYYYY YOOOOOOOO
[22:37] <pieces029> My home directory is always encrypted when I log into my system does anyone know how to have it unencrypt it when I log in?
[22:37] <andyfied> no connect on 6667 either
[22:39] <KI7MT> pieces029, I dont understand the question, you want to remove encryption form your /home ?
[22:40] <pieces029> no I want it to be encrypted but I want it to unencrypt so I can see it when I log in
[22:40] <pieces029> currently I have to log in then run ecryptfs-mount-private
[22:41] <LvMises> o/ all
[22:41] <KI7MT> pieces029, I think, you can add that to the end of your .bashrc : ecryptfs-mount-private
[22:42] <LvMises> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 and I want to install drivers for a GeForce 6200 Turbocache.  I'm following instructions here:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/153915/how-to-install-drivers-for-nvidia-geforce-fx-5200-on-precise but it doesn't look too promising.
[22:42] <pieces029> But then I have to type my password again.  There is no way to have that just happen?  I'm pretty sure it use to, since I didn't have to do this before.
[22:43] <KI7MT> pieces029, You woudl ahve to cd $HOME before that though.
[22:43] <LvMises> I ended up here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-173-updates/173.14.35-0ubuntu1/+build/3597638  but it's for Quantal.  I don't know what to do. :(
[22:43] <_pers3us_> pieces029, or to your profile.d/somescript.sh if you are sole user. or your entire home is mounted. You can also pass the decrypt password using stdin
[22:43] <K4k> pieces029: see if anything here proves helpful, this sounds like the same issue you're having. http://askubuntu.com/questions/115497/encrypted-home-directory-not-auto-mounting
[22:44] <KI7MT> pieces029, _pers3us_ would still ahve to send a hash PW .. not sure how that would work.
[22:44] <_pers3us_> pieces029, Just pass the password using stdin.
[22:44] <pieces029> K4k, that looks promissingt
[22:45] <_pers3us_> KI7MT, It works alright, I have written a decription script which took my password in plain text and did the decrypt-remount
[22:45] <raub> I have rsyslog setup in a client host to forward all of its traffic to a machine called logger, as in "*.* @@logger:541
[22:45] <raub> When I do "tcpdump -v port 541" on the client machine, I see nothing.
[22:45] <raub> No error messages when I restart rsyslog
[22:46] <K4k> raub: what file do you have *.* $$loger:541 specified? I have had similar issues before.
[22:46] <KI7MT> _pers3us_, pieces029 send a plain-test PW to un-encrypt data .. not very secure I would think ..
[22:47] <K4k> raub: and where in the file?
[22:47] <_pers3us_> KI7MT,  Ya true. It isn't secure.
[22:47] <KI7MT> Kind of defeats the purpose of encrytion to begin with
[22:47] <raub> K4k: /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf has that line
[22:47] <raub> K4k: in the client
[22:48] <K4k> and where in /etc/rsyslog.conf does it include /etc/rsyslog.d/*?
[22:48] <_pers3us_> KI7MT, The idea is to to run the script and keep the script in such a place where it can't be accessed unless user has actually logged in or something. I did it for completely different purpose though.
[22:48] <raub> the logger is setup to listen for traffic on 514/tcp, but right now I want to forget about it and focus on the client
[22:48] <raub> K4k: exactly. This is a standard 12.04LTS install
[22:49] <K4k> raub: So, the issue I've had in the past is that the $IncludeConfig line fell after a conflicting rule. Try adding the *.* rule you have in the 50-default.conf file at the top of rsyslog.conf and see if it works
[22:50] <KI7MT> _pers3us_, yes I understand the intent, but that PW, bing in plain test, sitting where it is, outside of the encrypted $HOME is a big security hole. All on would have to do is breach the system and read the script.
[22:50] <K4k> and see if you see traffic. If you do, start moving it below one rule at a time until it stops working.
[22:51] <RILA> http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/9369420
[22:51] <gmachine_24> get lost
[22:51] <K4k> raub: hopefully that gets you going in a useful direction. I have to bail, good luck!
[22:52] <gmachine_24> ignore RILA
[22:52] <LvMises> Can anyone help me with some graphic card driver installation in Ubuntu 12.04?
[22:52] <duel-traviis>  I download windows7 iso and Now when I try to make a live dvd it says I dont have anough space although the iso is only 2.3 gb
[22:52] <KI7MT> _pers3us_, pieces029 in any case you can pass the PW to a script, use decrypt via .bashrc and have it do what your asking, but be aware, it defeats the encryption protection you've setup.
[22:52] <gmachine_24> LvMises - you must give us details.... name of video card, chipset, etc.
[22:53] <gmachine_24> LvMises - also, what problems are you having? error messages? what have you tried?
[22:53] <pieces029> KI7MT: Yeah I see that now.  It's really wierd I don't remember having to unecrypt the home folder orginally but it's a server so maybe I was just doing maintenance stuff without worrying about it.
[22:53] <gmachine_24> duel-traviis . . . and?
[22:53] <KI7MT> !details | LvMises
[22:54] <duel-traviis> gmachine_24, and what am I supposed to do? I want windows and not ubuntu..
[22:54] <LjL> it would be nice if i could check whether RILA's post is something inappropriate, but i cannot because country-wide blocks...
[22:54] <pieces029> KI7MT, do you think having the home directory encrypted matters for trying to do port forwarding ssh -R stuff?
[22:54] <gmachine_24> K17MT, much better. I will have to remember that.
[22:54] <LvMises> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 and I want to install drivers for a GeForce 6200 Turbocache.  I'm following instructions here:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/153915/how-to-install-drivers-for-nvidia-geforce-fx-5200-on-precise but it doesn't look too promising.
[22:54] <LvMises> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 and I want to install drivers for a GeForce 6200 Turbocache.  I'm following instructions here:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/153915/how-to-install-drivers-for-nvidia-geforce-fx-5200-on-precise but it doesn't look too promising.
[22:54] <FloodBot1> LvMises: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:54] <gordonjcp> LjL: two secs
[22:55] <LvMises> I ended up here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-173-updates/173.14.35-0ubuntu1/+build/3597638  but it's for Quantal.  I don't know what to do. :(
[22:55] <gmachine_24> duel-traviis: try a different dvd?
[22:56] <KI7MT> pieces029, ssh port forwarding is a whole different beasty .. if you use keys, it's can all be automated, but still wont decrypt as your looking for. Personally, I dont really see a need for encrypting on a server, but that's just me.
[22:56] <duel-traviis> gmachine_24, Its my only usb.. :/
[22:56] <gordonjcp> LjL: see PM
[22:56] <gordonjcp> LjL: also, VPNs for the win
[22:56] <gmachine_24> duel-traviis: are you trying to make a bootable usb drive
[22:56] <gordonjcp> pieces029: how familiar are you with Linux, or even Unix in general?
[22:56] <gmachine_24> because it's impossible to tell what you're trying to do
[22:57] <pieces029> KI7MT, So the reason I was looking into the encryption thing was because my forwarding wasn't working.  Though maybe the hard drive needed to be mounted.  Looks like a different issue.  When I try to connect to the forwarded port it just hangs.
[22:57] <duel-traviis> hm yes
[22:57] <duel-traviis> gmachine_24, yes sorry
[22:57] <gmachine_24> duel-traviis: and how big is the usb drive?
[22:57] <duel-traviis> gmachine_24, 4gb
[22:58] <gmachine_24> duel-traviis: and it's empty?
[22:58] <duel-traviis> gmachine_24, Yes
[22:58] <gmachine_24> duel-traviis: are you using unetbootin or something similar?
[22:58] <KI7MT> pieces029, So tell us about the lanscape, desktop to server, what you trying to forward etc.
[22:58] <duel-traviis> gmachine_24, Exactly that
[22:59] <gmachine_24> duel-traviis: see, this isn't supposed to be a game of what's my line where we have to guess what's going on........
[22:59] <gmachine_24> but anyway...........
[22:59] <KI7MT> what's my line :-) that's a good one
[23:00] <duel-traviis> gmachine_24, I get a pop up of saying there isnt enough space around 61% done
[23:00] <gmachine_24> K17Mt, I'm old ....
[23:00] <gmachine_24> :-)
[23:00] <gmachine_24> duel-traviis: well then you have a problem
[23:00] <duel-traviis> gmachine_24, Figured.
[23:01] <LvMises> Ok, so, apparently my description of my problem is not up to par?
[23:02] <gmachine_24> duel-traviis: I believe unetbootin is to create a *nix bootable usb drive
[23:02] <LvMises> Can I install nvidia drivers in ubuntu 12.04 with a build meant for Quantal?
[23:02] <duel-traviis> gmachine_24, Any other programs that should work on a live session?
[23:02] <pieces029> KI7MT, I have a raspberry pi that is behind a firewall I don't want to configure, so I have a startup script that is forwarding it to my ubuntu server.  It appears to work for a while, but then when I try to connect it will just stall.  The -v option yields some weird results.
[23:02] <Jinxed-> how do I disable iptables
[23:02] <gmachine_24> duel-traviis: but the windows 7 iso to a dvd and boot from that
[23:02] <Jinxed-> temporarly
[23:02] <Jinxed-> to test something
[23:02] <gmachine_24> *burn, sorry
[23:03] <duel-traviis> gmachine_24, No blank dvds around.. ://
[23:03] <gmachine_24> duel-traviis: buy some
[23:03] <duel-traviis> gmachine_24, Thought that this would be free......
[23:03] <Jinxed-> if I use iptables -F
[23:03] <Jinxed-> how do I get my rules back
[23:04] <gmachine_24> duel-traviis: or try something such as this http://arstechnica.com/business/2009/12/the-usb-flash-drive/
[23:04] <duel-traviis> gmachine_24, Thank you will get back to ya
[23:04] <gmachine_24> duel-traviis: whatever made you think installing Windows would be free?
[23:05] <pieces029> KI7MT, I appreciate you help.  My internet is crapping out so I will try again later.
[23:05] <KI7MT> pieces029, Ok, it would be good if you could capture the -v/-vv errors when you get time.
[23:06] <iBog> hello
[23:06] <iBog> is there an iTunes clone for Ubuntu?
[23:06] <gmachine_24> iBog, what does it need to do
[23:06] <bekks> iBog: there is no iTunes clone at all.
[23:06] <gmachine_24> but, generally, what bekks said
[23:06] <iBog> gmachine_24: catalog music and videos as well as play them
[23:07] <iBog> catalog/index
[23:07] <iBog> ok
[23:07] <gmachine_24> iBog, you mean catalogue as in keep track of music and videos on your hard drive and play them?
[23:07] <KI7MT> iBog, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=iTunes+Clone+for+Ubuntu
[23:07] <bekks> iBog: Does it have to work with iDevices?
[23:07] <gmachine_24> catalog and index, then, yes
[23:07] <gmachine_24> many
[23:08] <iBog> bekks: ideally
[23:08] <iBog> what is the most popular gmachine_24
[23:09] <gmachine_24> iBog: I don't know. I use Banshee and a version or software from Logitech which used to be called slimserver and was OS - but you should check around because there are many options
[23:09] <gmachine_24> *version of software
[23:10] <icatmeow> bb friends i go to sleep
[23:11] <KI7MT> iBog, here ya go, 10 reviews: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/10-things/10-linux-replacements-for-itunes/
[23:12] <KI7MT> iBog, Quote fro the first one on the list: This is probably the most popular of all the music library tools on Linux
[23:12] <nocternal> iBog: I find an all-in-one-product never does both well - video and music.  Some will do one or the other better.  Just my $0.02.
[23:13] <iBog> thanks all
[23:13] <pulsar78> im trying to remove some display drivers, do i only keep my card ? (intel) because i also notice video-all and video-fbdev
[23:14] <nocternal> iBog: I use XBMC for local playback of video/movies and subsonic for streaming music and videos to devices.  I still use iTunes (in VM) to do iPhone stuff though. :|
[23:14] <gmachine_24> yeah, I've used 6 out of 10 of those and 7 if you count a brief use of itunes
[23:16] <KI7MT> pulsar78, Unless those drivers are causing you conflicts or they are failed attempts to resolve a problem, maybe best left alone.
[23:16] <maheanuu> I have a question on a problem that has happened after formatting several PNY USB Flash Drives in Ubuntu 12.04 Ubuntu, they were formatted Ntfs which I had done with other drives, but now these drives are showing up in Disk Utility as "Media Not Found"
[23:18] <Beldar> maheanuu, Anything on them? HOw long ago were they formatted, and with what app did you format with?
[23:20] <maheanuu> Beldar,I used the Ubuntu Format App and chose Ntfs I have not had this problem before,
[23:21] <Beldar> maheanuu, Format app? Dissk? or gparted or the cli? are these encrypted?
[23:21] <Beldar> Disk app*
[23:21] <maheanuu> This was recently I bought them for the family, (I live in Tahiti on the Island of Raiatea) They use them for big music or video files
[23:22] <maheanuu> Beldar,Disk Utility
[23:23] <Beldar> maheanuu, Anything on them?
[23:24] <Kronosynth> I can't get 'dkms status' to work on my system, or dkms in general: it always gives me a general 'dkms.conf not found!' error
[23:24] <Beldar> maheanuu, ntfs  partitions can become fragmented and show as unreadable.
[23:24] <Kronosynth> does anyone know how I can fix this?
[23:24] <maheanuu> I did 5 of them and all are not showing anything, They Show up in Disk Utility but do not have anyway to do anything and they are listed as No Media
[23:25] <Beldar> maheanuu, Can you mount the,?
[23:25] <Beldar> them*
[23:25] <maheanuu> Beldar, brb
[23:25] <Beldar> maheanuu, Read the questions carefully please.
[23:26] <yacc> How painful would a 12.04LTS -> 13.10 upgrade be?
[23:26] <Beldar> yacc, you have to go through all the releases between, I would wait for the april release of 14.04 a lts and upgrade straight to it.
[23:26] <xiamx> I have 2 ethernet ports, one with internet access and the other one is a localnet, what should i do so that packets destinated to internet go through the right port?
[23:27] <keepguessing> "30 08 * * 5" what does this crontab setting mean? Does it mean run on every friday at 8:30 AM ?
[23:27] <maheanuu> Beldar, It is showing up in Disk Utility as a "Generic Flash Disk
[23:27] <keepguessing> Sorry for reposting it
[23:28] <Beldar> maheanuu, So what is the actual problem here, explain clearly, IE can't be mounted, or no actual partitions now.
[23:29] <KI7MT> yacc, Beldar +1 on waiting or, install a fresh 13.10 .. upgrading more than 2nd level generally not a good idea, at least from my past attempts.
[23:29] <Beldar> I never upgrade
[23:30] <KI7MT> I do for testing and that's bout it.
[23:30] <yacc> Beldar, well, I happen to have hardware (Wacom Bamboo Pad) that the 12.04LTS wacom.ko does not recognize, ...
[23:30] <ColdKey> Ubuntu doesn't recognize all of my mouse buttons. How can I fix this?
[23:30] <Beldar> yacc, well thanks for not sharing that till now.
[23:30] <lickalott> what mouse are you using ColdKey, and was it present during installation?
[23:31] <yacc> Beldar, well, we'll see tomorrow if 13.10 recognizes it better, I've got 13.10 in the office ;)
[23:31] <maheanuu> Beldar, Firmware Version: 7.76     /dev/sdb     then "No Media Detected"  But it will try to format and then fail immediately with the message  Error creating partition table: helper exited with exit code 1: cannot open /dev/sdb: No medium found
[23:31] <ColdKey> lickalott, Logitech MX510. Yes it was. Reciever was plugged in all the time and I used it during the install. All buttons are recognized except wheel right click :\
[23:32] <Beldar> maheanuu, use gparted and make sure they have msdos partition tables, then make a partittion.
[23:32] <lickalott> ColdKey = http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=485175
[23:33] <mbrigdan> This is a bit of a specific question, but I'm having trouble compiling kicad on ubuntu 13.04 64-bit. Cmake says it can't find OpenGL, despite me installing every opengl library I can find (including 32-bit versions)
[23:33] <ColdKey> lickalott, cp: cannot stat `/etc/X11/xorg.conf': No such file or directory
[23:33] <Beldar> maheanuu, I'm assuming you do not need gpt, we are not even close to actually communicating in any efficient manner.
[23:33] <ColdKey> I don't have that file in my etc :\
[23:34] <maheanuu> Beldar, Thanks Much!!!  I will try it right now....   That would be sudo gparted /dev/sdb   In this case wouldn't it?
[23:34] <lickalott> ColdKey: cd /etc; ls -lrt | grep X       post results here
[23:34] <Beldar> maheanuu, use the gparted gui the app
[23:34] <maheanuu> Ok and thanks again
[23:34] <KI7MT> That how too is a bit dated, it'a for  fiesty 7.04
[23:34] <Beldar> not sure on the cli is al maheanuu
[23:34] <mrsun_> hmm anyone know of any known issue where the whole UI (in this case gubuntu) freezes but mouse pointer works?
[23:35] <ColdKey> lickalott, drwxr-xr-x 10 root root     4096 Aug 20 20:00 X11
[23:35] <lickalott> whats inside there?
[23:35] <KI7MT> ColdKey, You probably nee to look in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:35] <KI7MT> ColdKey, also, have a looky here: http://www.butlerpc.net/blog/2012/09/configure-logitech-m510-usb-mouse-on-ubuntu-12-04/
[23:36] <ColdKey> I don't have xorg.conf :\
[23:36] <lickalott> ColdKey whats inside your X11 dir?
[23:37] <lickalott> what ver of ubuntu are you running?
[23:37] <Beldar> maheanuu, If you are using the terminal to open apps be sure to use gksudo
[23:37] <ColdKey> lickalott, 12.04 LTS
[23:38] <lickalott> try creating the file.  and entering in the information from the page (i.e. copy paste) then reboot and see what happens
[23:38] <maheanuu> Beldar, OK, I already had it, but it doesn't see the /dev/sdb either
[23:38] <Beldar> maheanuu, No sdb in the drop down top right corner?
[23:39] <KI7MT> ColdKey, if it dont'e exist, you can create it by: X -configure
[23:39] <KI7MT> ColdKey, then: cp /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:40] <KI7MT> you'll need to use sudo too
[23:40] <ColdKey> I need to install X server then?
[23:40] <lickalott> you should have x server unless you're running the server edition of Ubuntu
[23:40] <KI7MT> ColdKey, after you create it, and copy it, reboot, then you should be able to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf can
[23:41] <maheanuu> No, it shows my sda drives and sdd thru sdk but skips that hole where sdb should be???
[23:42] <hassen> http://technicalworldforyou.blogspot.com/2012/02/ubuntu-command-line-wallpaper-for.html
[23:42] <ColdKey> lickalott, Description:	Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS
[23:42] <ColdKey> KI7MT, I don't need to instal xserver-xorg or I have to install it first then create config file?
[23:42] <Beldar> maheanuu, run sudo fdisk -l and pastebin it
[23:42] <lickalott> that doesn't help homey.  I'm running server 12.04.3 LTS, mine would show the same thing.   Are you running the desktop version?
[23:43] <maheanuu> Beldar,No, it shows my sda drives and sdd thru sdk but skips that hole where sdb should be???
[23:44] <lickalott> maheanuu a "hole" or its grayed out?
[23:44] <KI7MT> ColdKey, well yes, you dont have an xserver installed, what hardware you running? you said your on 12.04 LTS yes?
[23:44] <KI7MT> if you dont have xserver
[23:44] <ColdKey> lickalott, Sorry about that, I'm new to Ubuntu (*nix in general). How can I check which version I'm running. I installed it from Live USB but I'm 99% sure it's desktop version.
[23:44] <lickalott> do you have a GUI?
[23:45] <ColdKey> KI7MT, I'm running it on Lenovo Y580 with GUI
[23:45] <ColdKey> lickalott,  Yes
[23:45] <lickalott> then it's desktop
[23:45] <lickalott> you should have xservers installed.
[23:45] <lickalott> to check open a terminal and type - dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall   then look for xserver (or grep for it)
[23:46] <Beldar> maheanuu, run sudo fdisk -l in the terminal and pastebin it
[23:46] <ColdKey> lickalott, I've found this line xserver-xorg-core				install
[23:46] <ColdKey> and I have like 10-20 more with -video -input and etc.
[23:47] <maheanuu> lickalott, no it is just skipped over,  the next line down is /dev/sdd
[23:48] <yofun> Ello... so either bash or python is messed up. I dont really know what it is but when I type (most of the time) a command I get "-bash: /usr/bin/python: No such file or directory"
[23:49] <maheanuu> Beldar,  how do I "pastebin" it?
[23:49] <PatrickDickey> yofun: That means that you're either typing the name of the file wrong, or it doesn't exist (normally).
[23:49] <Beldar> !pastebin | maheanuu
[23:50]  * PatrickDickey needs to wake up... Sorry about that.
[23:50] <yofun> PatrickDickey:  No I mean any command I type at terminal...
[23:50] <yofun> yofun@leonard:/usr/bin$ sudo su bash: /usr/bin/python: No such file or directory yofun@leonard:/usr/bin$
[23:51] <PatrickDickey> yofun: if you to into /usr/bin and type ls, do you see python listed?
[23:51] <yofun> I see it listed.
[23:51] <yofun> But I cant cd or nano it.
[23:51] <joshtekmobile> So hey. What does the precious and mighty ubottu have a link for when python seems to be there in /usr/bin/python yet the system doesn't seem to think so.
[23:51] <ColdKey> lickalott,  Here is the output of dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall | grep xorg - > http://paste.ubuntu.com/6602566/
[23:51] <ColdKey> Does it mean I have xorg installed or not?
[23:52] <yofun> lol joshtekmobile  shush. Im trying to handle it.
[23:52] <joshtekmobile> Aww you already asked :P
[23:52] <yofun> PatrickDickey: I see it listed. But I cant cd or nano it.
[23:52] <yofun> I can nano it but its just a "new file"
[23:53] <yofun> lol josh.
[23:54] <KI7MT> ColdKey, run this, if it fails, it's not, but it should be: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:54] <lickalott> true ColdKey
[23:54] <yofun> joshtekmobile:  In fact...none of those files in /usr/bin seem to work.
[23:55] <ColdKey> lickalott, KI7MT -> Package `xserver-xorg' is not installed and no info is available.
[23:55] <lickalott> its odd that there isn't an xorg file....
[23:55] <PatrickDickey> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1799720 might point you in the right direction, yofun.
[23:55] <lickalott> xserver-xorg-core				install <----- from the dpkg....????
[23:55] <KI7MT> ColdKey, I need to read on this a bit, I dont understand how xserver is not installed on a Desktop installation, makes no sense at all.
[23:55] <joshtekmobile> yofun: which one?
[23:56] <ColdKey> lickalott, Yes, that was the paste from your command
[23:56] <ColdKey> KI7MT, Ok, please help if you can. :) I'm new to Ubuntu so I have no idea what's wrong.. :\
[23:56] <ColdKey> I found that tutorial on ubuntu forums but I couldn't find the xorg.conf. It seems that it's because it doesn't exist :)
[23:57] <yofun> PatrickDickey: Nope..
[23:57] <yofun> PatrickDickey:  bash: cd: /usr/local/bin/python: No such file or directory
[23:58] <yofun> bash: cd: /usr/bin/python2.7: No such file or directory
[23:58] <PatrickDickey> yofun: try ls -l python* and pastebin the result. What you *should* see is python -> python2.7 and then python2.7.
[23:58] <chro> anyone can point me out a good application for commenting pdfs ?
[23:58] <lickalott> I'm saying, that it shows that xorg is installed based on the dpkg, yet it's saying that it's not.
[23:58] <joshtekmobile> chro: Google chrome has a decent built in PDF reader.
[23:58] <ColdKey> lickalott, KI7MT Can you check this output out... -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6602602/
[23:59] <chro> joshtekmobile, and it allows to add some comments ?
[23:59] <ColdKey> I guess it says that it's installed but it's kind-a not :)
[23:59] <KI7MT> ColdKey, Indeed, it would appear not, so you can install is, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg  .. but I really dont get why it's not already there.
[23:59] <yofun> PatrickDickey:  They are there.However they seem to be empty.
[23:59] <yofun> Not a folder and a empty file.
[23:59] <joshtekmobile> chro: I misread sorry