[05:40] I'm trying to set up a bunch session jobs to run as a user on my system -- I've got the session-init-setup and session-init configs in place and the are working... its starting up all the jobs I have in ~/.config/upstart [05:41] the problem the keep dying run that way (work fine when run from the command line) -- I added a console log directive -- where is it sticking the logs so I can see why the apps failed ?? [05:45] skip it -- found a glitch in my script that builds the job configs for all these processes